His BC has a watermark of a bald Donald Trump on it.

B H O is hiding something….thay you lefties have bought hook, line and sinker.

Obama is good at hiding his past. Obama is unable to do his job. He won’t show his grades because he was an affirmative action special.

I’d recommend Republicans NOT make the election about this subject… because it distracts from actual issues the Obama presidency has. I think this is just a distraction from the real stuff that should be discussed, like the economy. Getting bogged down in this controversy will just weigh down Republicans… when they could have such an easy time attacking Obama on other issues.

BHO has lied to America!

What a hoot and a half Woopie is – because he is black, you racist (she implies). People ask for it because he has paid a fortune to hide it along with hiding his collegiate records are well.

Come on Obama, release the paperwork. Maybe Dan Rather can come back into the realm and provide a good set of false documents for hehimself.

Birthers of the world unite – your leader, Matthews and Gregory are eager for you to discuss this; it is their favorite subject.

I’m not a “birther” but I agree that its a curious thing and becoming curiouser and curiouser, Alice, that he’s sealed his college records, that none of his writings from when he was the editor of the Harvard Law Review have surfaced, that few if any of his colege or high school mates remember him.

And, why does he have a Conneticut social security number? Did he ever live in Conneticut?

I’ve spent an entire career as an investigator and I’m telling you that if this much sideways information surfaced about anyone I was looking at I’d be digging like a badger until I proved that it was either wrong and it could be discarded – or I proved that there is indeed something rotten in the fridge.

Yet, nobody who can dig deep seems to want to.

Like I said (with apologies to Lewis Carroll), it just gets curiouser and curiouser.

Ever thrown out hen scratch and watch chicken’s go after it . This reminds me of that .
There are countless reason’s Barry should have never been POTUS . The media and internet is running the entire world . follow the money .

Snowspot says:

A birth cert is a real subject. Btw, how many campaigns have you ran?

Leave the birther crap to Tingles, Donald. There are plenty of other things to go after BO on.

Having said that, I definately think he’s hiding something from his college days.

gordonbloyershow said:
he was an affirmative action spe

totally.

gordonbloyershow said:
Obama is good at hiding his past. Obama is unable to do his job. He won’t show his grades because he was an affirmative action special.

Where was Bush’s grades? C’s and D’s don’t get you into Yale! It does help when your grandpa was the president of Yale, Preston Bush.

gordonblowyer is a high school drop out

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
Snowspot says:

A birth cert is a real subject. Btw, how many campaigns have you ran?

Hey if you want to continue to beat that dead horse, go for it, I don’t actually care I just think you are wasting your time.

A.R. says:
gordonblowyer is a high school drop out

At least he made it to high school. +

I’m not a ‘birther’ either..what’s done is done. BUT…IF anyone could talk about it, it could ONLY be Trump. Of course he’s not going to run, but ONLY he can say what the republicans won’t/can’t or are afraid to.

Obama’s friends in Jakarta remember him and his friends at Punahou, but there will always be something fishy about that birth certificate until the original one is released, and Obama’s friend, the governor of Hawaii made things even worse.

trump is annoying…AND HE PALS AROUND WITH TERRORISTS….i bet he would have sold hitler his last bunket if he can make a profit off it

bunker* sorry

Of course Whoopidy brought up race. Thats what racists do. She of all people should be blind to race. She has no talent is not funny, is god awfull to look at and Manson has a better demeaner than her.. And through all of that she managed to do quite well..

Snowspot recommends that Republicans not pursue this subject because thre are just so manoy….OTHER things.

Yeah, the very LAST thing the left wants is for someone to really dig at this guy. The left are just the left. That doesn’t make them stupid. They know that something isn’t right here and they’ve got their crooked little fingers crossed in hopes no one will find it.

I hope that whoever gets the nomination takes the gloves off and demands that his college records are unsealed and if he won’t demand to know why not.

trump is not a stupid man. he keeps bringing up this birth cert. thing which tells me there is really something to this. i think it’s beginning to unravel. can’t wait to see what it’s all about.

Yoda002 said:
Where was Bush’s grades? C’s and D’s don’t get you into Yale! It does help when your grandpa was the president of Yale, Preston Bush.

What were Obamas grades?

O-Bomb-A is hiding something and we will eventually uncover what that is and the world will see with their own eyes the pig in a poke that they bought.

No cert, no grades, no thesis.

LOL it’s hilarious to see all you birthers go for the meat then deny that you’re doing so with blood dripping from your fangs. BTW, Liberal tormentor doesn’t this destroy your assertion that only liberals ever bring this up?

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
LOL it’s hilarious to see all you birthers go for the meat then deny that you’re doing so with blood dripping from your fangs. BTW, Liberal tormentor doesn’t this destroy your assertion that only liberals ever bring this up?

It’s really sad you voted for a stooge you know NOTHING about.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Leave the birther crap to Tingles, Donald. There are plenty of other things to go after BO on.

Having said that, I definately think he’s hiding something from his college days.

Of course you do, your hatred of liberals compels you to.

You can keep saying I hate people UNreasonable lib, but that won’t make it true. I don’t even hate you.

Constitution? Constitution? President Obama doesn’t need no Constitution.
You knew sooner or later someone was going to make a funny video about that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PAv4hPpnLc

gordonbloyershow said:
Obama is good at hiding his past. Obama is unable to do his job. He won’t show his grades because he was an affirmative action special.

You know what’s funny; conservatives get mad at liberals if we say that somebody got somewhere due to affirmative action but will then spew the same thing themselves and face no consequences. Hypocrisy.

“Having said that, I definately think he’s hiding something from his college days.”

Something? He hid EVERYTHING!

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
It’s really sad you voted for a stooge you know NOTHING about.

ya gotta elect him to see what’s in him!

Liberal Tormentor said:
You can keep saying I hate people UNreasonable lib, but that won’t make it true. I don’t even hate you.

Yet you present yourself as “Liberal tormentor” and use every chance you can to demean liberals…. sounds pretty hateful to me, Liberal Hater.

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz says:

It’s really sad you voted for a stooge you know NOTHING about.

That makes me think of this classic video:

Brokaw and Rose Admit They Don’t Know Much About Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzMas1bVidw

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
It’s really sad you voted for a stooge you know NOTHING about.

It’s very sad that you still troll like this, notsosmart.

Liberal Tormentor said:
You can keep saying I hate people UNreasonable lib, but that won’t make it true. I don’t even hate you.

His goal is to get you to say you hate him. How sad is that?

UNreasonable lib whines:

Yet you present yourself as “Liberal tormentor” and use every chance you can to demean liberals…. sounds pretty hateful to me, Liberal Hater.

I don’t torment with hate, I torment you libs with logic and facts.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
It’s very sad that you still troll like this, notsosmart.

it’s very sad that you engage in personal attacks instead of defending your Dude.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
It’s very sad that you still troll like this, notsosmart.

Huh?

Liberal Tormentor said:
UNreasonable lib whines:

Yet you present yourself as “Liberal tormentor” and use every chance you can to demean liberals…. sounds pretty hateful to me, Liberal Hater.

I don’t torment with hate, I torment you libs with logic and facts.

Like the “fact” that the health care bill funds abortion or the “Fact” that somebody meant to shoot through eric cantor’s window or the “fact” that liberals want minorities dependent on the government despite the fact that minorities began to support liberals of their own volition? Maybe the “fact” that Glenn Beck can do no wrong? Nice “facts”!

screwauger said:
it’s very sad that you engage in personal attacks instead of defending your Dude.

He has no defense and he knows it.

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
He has no defense and he knows it.

You shouldn’t talk to yourself, son.

This is hilarious, whether Trump runs or not (I doubt he will) he’s doing us all a great service, and the more gas that get’s thrown on this fire the tighter all you libs shorts are gonna get. heh heh heh…

Matthews brought it up to try to make Repubs look bad, but that backfired Chrissy. It USED to be a “moot” point, now Barry’s gonna have to side step it constantly or actually produce it.

Way to go Matthews & MSNBC, you lit the fuse, it’s gonna dog Obama all the way to 2012!

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
You shouldn’t talk to yourself, son.

You’re claiming I’m notsomart and screwauger? You’re almost as crazy as TRRK. Is that your goal?

Does it even matter at this point where he was born? We are not getting those years back and Obama will most likely lose in 2012 because the idiots who voted for him the first time around have been woken up from their down syndrome slumber. That being said, the guy was born in Kenya. If Trump can figure it out, anyone can.

He won’t be able to play the same game in the next election – his policies have raised enough questions across the nation that even the lapdog liberal loving media won’t be able to carry his water throughout another election. they succeeded last time and the public was fooled, that won’t happen again.

Good for Trump for keeping the heat on and keeping David Gregory and Chris Matthews happy ,

The”reasonable”lib can’t defend Obama so he made 4 personal attacks and started with the name game. What will he try next?

Unreasonable libs says………….nothing interesting, as usual.

Hey, Don’t you have a community organizing final to study for?

i would love for trump to be the repub nominee and during their televised debate, trump can ask to see his birth certificate.
better yet, during the primaries trump, huckabee, and anyone else who wants the republican nomination can float their theories on the reason why obama is hiding his birth certificate.
trump and huckabee can have commercials together and even bring in that other nutsack, distort denewza, and they can put on blackface and say how obama is secretly preparing to attack england and for them colonizing his homeland of kenya.

Obama himself said, “The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” ……And it is very clear Obama does not want to disclose the truth.
So much so that he continues to spend millions from producing a $20.00 document….

A lsit of documents Obama, the guy who promised transparency, refuses to disclose:

1. Occidental College records
2. Columbia College records
3. Columbia Thesis paper
4. Harvard College records
5. Selective Service Registration
6. Medical records
7. Illinois State Senate schedule
8. Law practice client list
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate
10. Embossed, signed, paper Certification of Live Birth
11. Harvard Law Review articles published
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles
13. Record of baptism
14. Illinois State Senate records

Snowspot said:
Hey if you want to continue to beat that dead horse, go for it, I don’t actually care I just think you are wasting your time.

i hardly think so. just wait.

Colorado_Conservative says:
Obama himself said, “The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.”

He also says to judge him by the people he spends his time with:

Rev. Wright
Bill Ayers
Van Jones
Anita Dunn
Andy Stern
Richard Trumpka

People who’ve praised BO:

Gaddafi
Hugo Chavez
Louis Farrakhan

I think we get the point, BO!

Liberal Tormentor said:
Unreasonable libs says………….nothing interesting, as usual.

Hey, Don’t you have a community organizing final to study for?

Translation: I’ve been called out on my bullsh*t so it’s best to deflect now.

Well that’s interesting.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Translation: I’ve been called out on my bullsh*t so it’s best to deflect now.

Well that’s interesting.

You “called” him out? LOL!

I’m certainly not a birther.

I fully believe the President was born in Hawaii (even the Indonesian school record that lists his name as Barry Soetoro and his religion as Islamic says he was born in Hawaii) but I do think that in the interest of being consistent with his claims of being the “most transparent White House ever,” he ought to release the certificate and his college school records, if for no other reason than to turn media attention on to important issues.

So what if he got a C or D in some class? Bush always joked that, “C students, you too can some day be President.” There’s nothing to be ashamed about grades.

I hope Trump runs. The primary debates will be hysterical if he does.

Like Stewart said, “I’m not sure if he’s from this country” is Republican speak for “I’m running for president.” He’s just pandering to the basiest of the base”.

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz says:

You “called” him out? LOL!

Actuallym I’m a she. He’s being pushed around by an itty bitty girl!

Liberal Tormentor said:
Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz says:

You “called” him out? LOL!

Actuallym I’m a she. He’s being pushed around by an itty bitty girl!

Ouch! My apologies. ;)

America, even the dysfunctional libs, won’t be fooled again. If Barack wants to run for president again, that’s fine. He is not going to be annoited this time. All the questions, laws and scrutiny he adeptly bypassed the first go round, per statement of his campaign, whatever she was, Anita Dunn.

Spot-on, Trump! Thanks, for letting ‘em know that we are not the Crazy Ones. What is Obama hiding and why?

Barack Must Go said:
America, even the dysfunctional libs, won’t be fooled again. If Barack wants to run for president again, that’s fine. He is not going to be annoited this time. All the questions, laws and scrutiny he adeptly bypassed the first go round, per statement of his campaign, whatever she was, Anita Dunn.

Yes, Trump would be an excellent candidate. Surely if you hooked him up with Bachman that would be a heck of a ticket. I am almost certain that would be a winner.

Haha! I hope he runs…..is should represent the right and the birthers!

Trump/Bachmann 2012! Hahahaha!

valkyrie101 said:
Yes, Trump would be an excellent candidate. Surely if you hooked him up with Bachman that would be a heck of a ticket. I am almost certain that would be a winner.

Excellent choice! and they could use juan’s statement as their slogan.

Trump/Bachman 2012 – “We Are Not The Crazy Ones!”

hahahahaha

Not only is there something on his birth cert that bothers him, there is also problems with college transcripts that he knows will bother us.
The deception will have to end this next campaign season.

juan said:
Spot-on, Trump! Thanks, for letting ‘em know that we are not the Crazy Ones. What is Obama hiding and why?

Obama provided the short form birth certificate which, under Hawaii law, constitutes proof of citizenship. Are you suggesting that Obama be required to provide something more than what the law requires? If so, why?

Chuck Steele said:
Not only is there something on his birth cert that bothers him, there is also problems with college transcripts that he knows will bother us.The deception will have to end this next campaign season.

Of course the law does not require anyone to provide their college transcripts to run for President. Are you too suggesting that Obama be required to meet a higher standard than what the law requires? Why?

No one said the law requires him to show his college transcripts, but aren’t you the least bit curious why he won’t? Who am I kidding, of course you aren’t!

Whoopi Goldberg says its so ridiculous, then just listen to what she goes onto say with this rationale “When someone becomes the President of the United States…..you know of course he is an American citizen” WHAT? HOW SO? Yea, that made sense….HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS WHOOPI? The stupidity of these people. Show the certificate!!!! I can’t get a passport without showing mine. THis Presidency is a nightmare…it is a sorely inexperienced, lazy, arrogant, dogmatic group of people running this country, no…not running , ruining it. Pray those with the power and expertise will save us! And by the way, the press is so right, Michelle is a real looker. Is she perpetually constipated?? Such a warm, beautiful human being…ewwww.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
LOL it’s hilarious to see all you birthers go for the meat then deny that you’re doing so with blood dripping from your fangs. BTW, Liberal tormentor doesn’t this destroy your assertion that only liberals ever bring this up?

A Liberal was the first to bring it up. Atty. Philip Berg, a staunch Hillary supporter and fundraiser, filed the first lawsuit about the birth certificate and he’s filing even more.

No Valkyrie101. Not at all. I just think he should meet some standards.
The used car salesman-like deception is getting old.
The guy claims he attended schools where nobody remembers him attending.

SpineCrusher says:
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valkyrie101 said:

Yes, Trump would be an excellent candidate. Surely if you hooked him up with Bachman that would be a heck of a ticket. I am almost certain that would be a winner.

Excellent choice! and they could use juan’s statement as their slogan.

Trump/Bachman 2012 – “We Are Not The Crazy Ones!”

hahahahaha
________________________________________________________________________________

They could easily WIN!

Liberal Tormentor said:
No one said the law requires him to show his college transcripts, but aren’t you the least bit curious why he won’t? Who am I kidding, of course you aren’t!

Obviously you do not believe in a person’s right to privacy.

juan said:
They could easily WIN!

Yes, I think you are right. Go for it.

valkyrie101 said:
Obama provided the short form birth certificate which, under Hawaii law, constitutes proof of citizenship. Are you suggesting that Obama be required to provide something more than what the law requires? If so, why?

Everybody knows the one he provided is a FRAUD!

valkyrie101 said:
Yes, I think you are right. Go for it.

He will easily be defeated!

Don’t underestimate the the number of people this is or will become an issue for. Up until now it’s been a topic relegated to cable news and the blogs, primarily viewed and read by us partisan hacks.

Donald Trump (love him or hate doesn’t matter) just brought it to prime time, you know, the channels that the vast majority of Americans watch?

Pop some more popcorn, it’s gonna get fun, by the time next November rolls around even soccer moms in the suburbs that think “O” is just dreamy are gonna think he’s hiding something.

valkyrie101 said:
Yes, I think you are right. Go for it.

Of course like I said, Trumps not gonna run, but…IF they did win….wouldn’t that be a kick in your libs asses? HA!

Chuck Steele said:
No Valkyrie101. Not at all. I just think he should meet some standards.The used car salesman-like deception is getting old.The guy claims he attended schools where nobody remembers him attending.

So your suggestion is that to run for President you need to provide the world with a copy of all your school transcripts? How about private medical records, those too? And will you be asking all the candidates to provide all that, or just Obama?

valkyrie101 said:
So your suggestion is that to run for President you need to provide the world with a copy of all your school transcripts? How about private medical records, those too? And will you be asking all the candidates to provide all that, or just Obama?

Nobody has ever hid them before, it looks bad.

You are kidding aren’t you val?

valkyrie101 says:
Liberal Tormentor said:
No one said the law requires him to show his college transcripts, but aren’t you the least bit curious why he won’t? Who am I kidding, of course you aren’t!

Obviously you do not believe in a person’s right to privacy.

If someone wants to be POTUS, they shouldn’t be afraid to provide you with info you have written on your beliefs. The fact he’s not willing to do that speaks volumes.

Ok birthers…. he was born somewhere else? Prove it.

You’re the ones making the accusations. Bring the proof.

I “taped” the show and spent time afterwards fast forwarding through his segment just to watch his hair … it moves in radical ways, as does his mouth… Really fun! As for what he has to say, who cares.

valkyrie101 said:
Obama provided the short form birth certificate which, under Hawaii law, constitutes proof of citizenship. Are you suggesting that Obama be required to provide something more than what the law requires? If so, why?

No…Obama has not shown his short form bc…however there is a fabricated oe that made it’s way onto the net that lists his dad’s race as “African”….which, everyone with any common sense knows “African” is not a race.

That sounds like the person who did the fabricating was so far left and Political Correct that they were unable to say Black or Negro.

Ohhh…and it did not have the doctors signature or attending staff on it…plus it was Computer generated…..we did not have computer generated bc’s back in 1961.

Something is rotten in Denmark . . .or should I say Kenya?!

Liberal Tormentor said:
valkyrie101 says:
Liberal Tormentor said:
The fact he’s not willing to do that speaks volumes.

Sorry LibTorm— the fact of the matter is that he HAS provided proof, as has the state of Hawaii (and this was supported by a REPUBLICAN governor).

It’s not Obama’s fault that you won’t believe the evidence.

Again, if you got something on where he was born, why don’t you just share that?? Huh??

mibwilso,
Try to keep up, we are talking about his college years now. I’m not a birther.

Why don’t you ask former REPUBLICAN Governor Linda Lingle, who instructed her state govt. to stop responding to frivoluous requests for Obama’s BC???

If you believe LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION:

Then you have no choice but to believe that OBAMA WAS BORN/MADE IN THE USA

Think about it

But, you know, chase this ghost if you want. IT IS HILARIOUS WATCHING YOU DO SO!!!!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

The new Governor of Hawaii (a Democrat) vowed to produce the original birth cert when he took office.
Low and behold, he says there is not one to be found. Hmmmmm………
Obama’s fraternal grandmother and his half brother both stated early on that they witnessed his birth in Kenya before he became POTUS. Being unfamiliar with the US Constitution, they did not, at the time, no that that would disqualify him from office. They have, for some odd reason, learned to know nothing since then.
Yes. I am a birther, as you like to call us. I do not like being lied to or deceived.
But I would gladly admit I was wrong if somebody can prove that he was born here.
There just is not one single person alive that ever remembers his Hawaii birth, no Dr, no nurse, no orderly, no housekeeper, no security guard, no candy striper, no billing clerk, no family member, no newsman,………..
Funny, as my namesake above stated, nobody seems to know him at Columbia either.
Who are the gullible here? Who are the blind faithful here? Not I.

Liberal Tormentor said:
mibwilso,
Try to keep up, we are talking about his college years now. I’m not a birther.

His college years are irrelevant to the question of whether or not he’s a citizen.

Did I say they were? Perhaps you have issues with reading comprehension, mibwilso.

Chuck from Tacoma said:
The new Governor of Hawaii (a Democrat) vowed to produce the original birth cert when he took office.
Low and behold, he says there is not one to be found. Hmmmmm………
Obama’s fraternal grandmother and his half brother both stated early on that they witnessed his birth in Kenya before he became POTUS. Being unfamiliar with the US Constitution, they did not, at the time, no that that would disqualify him from office. They have, for some odd reason, learned to know nothing since then.
Yes. I am a birther, as you like to call us. I do not like being lied to or deceived.
But I would gladly admit I was wrong if somebody can prove that he was born here.
There just is not one single person alive that ever remembers his Hawaii birth, no Dr, no nurse, no orderly, no housekeeper, no security guard, no candy striper, no billing clerk, no family member, no newsman,………..
Funny, as my namesake above stated, nobody seems to know him at Columbia either.
Who are the gullible here? Who are the blind faithful here? Not I.

Just prove your accusations then. In this country, in legal cases, the burden of proof is on the accuser.

mibwilso said:
Ok birthers…. he was born somewhere else? Prove it.

You’re the ones making the accusations. Bring the proof.

Obama is the one who has to prove it according to the constitution. It was Pelosi’s job to do make sure it was done…..she failed!
So the question is still out there and growing everyday…why does Obama spend millions to fight from producing a $20.00 document?

What difference would it make if there were “witnesses” or if Obama could somehow find (or resurrect) the doctor that delivered him??

Even if somebody gave first hand testimony about his birth, the “birthers” would still say it was a lie.

There’s no placating these a-holes. They need to pony up their evidence that he was born somewhere else or STFU.

Colorado_Conservative said:
Obama is the one who has to prove it according to the constitution. It was Pelosi’s job to do make sure it was done…..she failed!
So the question is still out there and growing everyday…why does Obama spend millions to fight from producing a $20.00 document?

Please show me the passage of the Constitution where it requires a birth certificate. All it says is that he/she must be a natural born citizen. It does not provide a list of acceptable documents.

Barbara Hodges said:
I “taped” the show and spent time afterwards fast forwarding through his segment just to watch his hair … it moves in radical ways, as does his mouth… Really fun! As for what he has to say, who cares.

Well they say that some women vote just by the looks of the candidate alone. I guess that idea ain’t so far fetched after all.

mibwilso said:
Just prove your accusations then. In this country, in legal cases, the burden of proof is on the accuser.

What you don’t understand is, no matter whom it is uncumbent upon to “prove” anything in a court of law, if Obumble wants to avoid killing his chances for re-election he’ll need to address it. The ball is in his court, and suddenly main stream America is becoming familiar with it, thanks to shows like “The View”.

HOW COME NEITHER HOSPITAL IN HONOLULU HAS ANY RECORDS OF OBAMA’S BIRTH?

FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

Folks, just read the FactCheck.org article about this.

http://factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

They have physically held the copy of the birth certificate.

And they also point out that it meets all of the requirements that the State Department has for proving citizenship in order to obtain a passport.

It also includes a birth announcement in the Hawaii Advertiser from Sunday 8/13/61, announcing his birth on 8/4/61….it also provides his parents’ address.

I will continue to demand proof from Obama.
The same proof I provided to get my first drivers license.
The Office of The President of the United States is no less important than me
being able to drive. Some might even say that being President is more important.

“I never really had roots in any one place or culture or ethnic group.”
- President Obama, Olympics speech

His election shows just how much pride liberals have of this country. If he just came out and stated he hates this America, I believe every liberal in the country would vote for him for re-election. And then there’s poor Michele; if 0bama does not fundamentally transform America, is she gonna be stuck in a country she is not proud of again???

It’s a Shame the GOP has no one to nominate and not provide us with a proper candidate to challenge Obama. When you have Donald trump thinking about runnin on the GOP ticket, you know that the GOP is screwed in 2012.

Blah blah blah…. still no proof from the wingers.

Dont forget this was going to be a transparent presidency……

ndanielson said:
“I never really had roots in any one place or culture or ethnic group.”
- President Obama, Olympics speech

That could apply to anyone. I’ve talked to plenty of people who were military brats who moved around alot as kids….and many of those people have said to me “I’m not really FROM anywhere…I”m a military brat”.

Chuck from Tacoma said:
I will continue to demand proof from Obama.
The same proof I provided to get my first drivers license.
The Office of The President of the United States is no less important than me
being able to drive. Some might even say that being President is more important.

He already had you stupid teabagger. Even your crazy teabag leader Glenn beck thinks this is a non issue

louda said:
It’s a Shame the GOP has no one to nominate and not provide us with a proper candidate to challenge Obama. When you have Donald trump thinking about runnin on the GOP ticket, you know that the GOP is screwed in 2012.

He’s not running, he’s just carpet bombing the battlefield for us, and doing a hell of a job I might add!

ndanielson said:
“I never really had roots in any one place or culture or ethnic group.”
- President Obama, Olympics speech

His election shows just how much pride liberals have of this country. If he just came out and stated he hates this America, I believe every liberal in the country would vote for him for re-election. And then there’s poor Michele; if 0bama does not fundamentally transform America, is she gonna be stuck in a country she is not proud of again???

It doesn’t show anything other than your inability to comprehend the life experiences of someone with a different life story than you.

mibwilso said:
Please show me the passage of the Constitution where it requires a birth certificate. All it says is that he/she must be a natural born citizen. It does not provide a list of acceptable documents.

Are you really so ignorant to argue this ridiculous statement? Serious? Just for giggles I’ll bite.

Lets say you were going for an interview for a new high paying job and one of the requirements is that you bring proof that you are a natural born citizen of the United States.

Which of the following do you think would meet that requirement.
A) Your King Soopers card?
B) Your credit card?
C) Your drivers License?
D) A fabricated computer generated bc that lists race as ‘African”?
E) Your original long form BC with the Doctors signature on it?

I think this story keeps coming up because the GOP is freaked out that they don’t have anyone who can win in 2012.

Colorado_Conservative said:
Are you really so ignorant to argue this ridiculous statement? Serious? Just for giggles I’ll bite.

Lets say you were going for an interview for a new high paying job and one of the requirements is that you bring proof that you are a natural born citizen of the United States.

Which of the following do you think would meet that requirement.
A) Your King Soopers card?
B) Your credit card?
C) Your drivers License?
D) A fabricated computer generated bc that lists race as ‘African”?
E) Your original long form BC with the Doctors signature on it?

Look, moron. You’re the one who was telling me that the Constitution requires a birth certificate (and that it’s the Speaker’s job to authenticate it). That stuff just ain’t in the constitution, pal.

mibwilso said:
Blah blah blah…. still no proof from the wingers.

As noted above, we don’t need any proof, we just need to beat you morons over the head with “doubt” about it. I don’t care where he was born, I care about his sorry ass getting re-elected, so the more prime timers, the more soccer moms and the more independents that THINK he’s hiding something the better.

Thank Hillary for starting it, and Chris Matthews for re-igniting it.

0bama has done NOTHING in his past that he is proud of except community organizing. He has hidden every paper, record and “accomplishment” he has ever achieved by the looks of it. By the way it was community organizers that shook down banks to get more “home buyers” into homes that they couldn’t afford. Way to go, Barry!

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/07/photo-gallery-results-of-obamas.html

Colorado_Conservative said:
Are you really so ignorant to argue this ridiculous statement? Serious? Just for giggles I’ll bite.

Lets say you were going for an interview for a new high paying job and one of the requirements is that you bring proof that you are a natural born citizen of the United States.

Which of the following do you think would meet that requirement.
A) Your King Soopers card?
B) Your credit card?
C) Your drivers License?
D) A fabricated computer generated bc that lists race as ‘African”?
E) Your original long form BC with the Doctors signature on it?

The BC that is on file in Hawaii meets all of the State Department requirements for proving citizenship to get a passport.

mibwilso says:
Blah blah blah…. still no proof from the wingers.

Chris “tingles” Matthews wants to see the long form, and Hillary is the original birther. Are they right wingers too?

timzank said:
He’s not running, he’s just carpet bombing the battlefield for us, and doing a hell of a job I might add!

I really don’t know who’s worse palin or trump. The GOP are a joke to this country. Teabaggers think they can teabag their way to the presidency.

Sorry TimZ, I see we are thinking alike.

timzank said:
As noted above, we don’t need any proof, we just need to beat you morons over the head with “doubt” about it. I don’t care where he was born, I care about his sorry ass getting re-elected, so the more prime timers, the more soccer moms and the more independents that THINK he’s hiding something the better. .

Exactly. You nutjobs don’t believe half the shit you say.

This really has nothing to do with where he was born and everything to do with the desperate feeling that the GOP has a field of losers for 2012.

mibwilso said:
Look, moron. You’re the one who was telling me that the Constitution requires a birth certificate (and that it’s the Speaker’s job to authenticate it). That stuff just ain’t in the constitution, pal.

If all you have left is to name call you have lost your argument….hehehehe
The left cannot provide answers so they have to call people names who dare question why Obama refuses to provide his BC.

whoopie said:
“it’s not because he’s black, is it?” Trump said it has nothing to do with that, but Whoopi continued, “because I’ve never heard a white president asked to show his birth certificate.

She is either lying or ignorant. How about when that white candidate for president was running for president he was asked to produce his BC and he did.

Trump is right Obama would whip this thing out in a heartbeat unless there is a something he doesnt want to show with it.

mibwilso said:
It doesn’t show anything other than your inability to comprehend the life experiences of someone with a different life story than you.

I comprehend yours perfectly: Liberal clown who has no problem with socialism, because your years in high school were spent “teaching” you self esteem, gay is great, and kumbayah.

“Trump On Obama: ‘There’s Something On That Birth Certificate That He Doesn’t Like’”

Yeah – the word “KENYA”, under “Place of Birth”

Just think, birthers. This story goes away if you find somebody who can beat him…..good luck with that…you’ll need it.

louda says:

The GOP are a joke to this country

You must have slept through November.

Still no proof of Obama’s birthplace from the wingnuts…

Colorado_Conservative said:
If all you have left is to name call you have lost your argument….hehehehe
The left cannot provide answers so they have to call people names who dare question why Obama refuses to provide his BC.

Why does the left have to provide facts when the state of Hawaii already have? The facts are there. If you choose to ignore the facts that’s your own teabagging fault.

louda said:
Why does the left have to provide facts when the state of Hawaii already have? The facts are there. If you choose to ignore the facts that’s your own teabagging fault.

Amen. If you wingnuts have some proof about Obama’s birthplace, then you’d have fair grounds to demand proof from him.

Louda, why wasn’t HI’s word good enough for Hillary?

louda said:
I really don’t know who’s worse palin or trump. The GOP are a joke to this country. Teabaggers think they can teabag their way to the presidency.

Not at all, I firmly believe Teh One will effectively kill his own re-election due to his awful leadership and now more emerging fear he’s hiding a lot of “stuff”. By November he’ll have more clouds over him than Hiroshima did.

ndanielson said:
I comprehend yours perfectly: Liberal clown who has no problem with socialism, because your years in high school were spent “teaching” you self esteem, gay is great, and kumbayah.

Can you prove you’re not an atheist, ndnelson?

At the end of the day, liberals have voted for and are stuck with a president that is so ashamed of his entire past that he has hidden it from everyone. Wow. Do they know how to pick ‘em, or what?

Liberal Tormentor said:
louda says:

The GOP are a joke to this country

You must have slept through November.

No the dems didn’t come out. Obama lost the messaging war. Go look at the data yourself. But of course you won’t choose to because you don’t think for yourself. Instead you believe Obama isn’t born in the USA

mibwilso said:
Can you prove you’re not an atheist, ndnelson?

To whom, dummy?

mibwilso said:
Amen. If you wingnuts have some proof about Obama’s birthplace, then you’d have fair grounds to demand proof from him.

Again, you miss the point, we don’t need to prove it, we just need to float it so enough people doubt it because he won’t address it.

Birthers: “We DEMAND evidence!”

Libs: “Can you prove he was born somewhere else?”

Birthers: “We don’t have to provide any….we can just say whatever bullshit we want and expect other people to do the work for us.”

ndanielson said:
To whom, dummy?

To anyone here?

louda said:
No the dems didn’t come out. Obama lost the messaging war. Go look at the data yourself. But of course you won’t choose to because you don’t think for yourself. Instead you believe Obama isn’t born in the USA

Believe what you want, he has hidden everything about his past. Those are the facts.

Why hasn’t Sarah Palin released the DNA tests to prove she’s really Trig’s mother??

mibwilso said:
To anyone here?

Do I need to, dummy?

Let me help you out, Donald. It does not matter what information is contained on the birth certificate. All that matters is that President Obama was born in this country. The State of Hawaii says he was and has provided the documentation which is required. End of story.

ndanielson said:
Do I need to, dummy?

Sure. Why won’t you just answer the question? Are you hiding something?

mibwilso said:
Why hasn’t Sarah Palin released the DNA tests to prove she’s really Trig’s mother??

And you idiots call everybody else birthers??? You’re a clown.

Mibwilso,
It’s a requirement to be a citizen to be POTUS, it’s not a requirement to be Trig’s mommy. Man you are really setthing with rage. Is that you Jeremiah?

mibwilso said:
Birthers: “We DEMAND evidence!” Libs: “Can you prove he was born somewhere else?” Birthers: “We don’t have to provide any….we can just say whatever bullshit we want and expect other people to do the work for us.”

You don’t know much about politics do you? It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not, what matters is what the majority of voters think, and they’ll think he’s hiding a whole bunch of shit by November.

timzank said:
Not at all, I firmly believe Teh One will effectively kill his own re-election due to his awful leadership and now more emerging fear he’s hiding a lot of “stuff”. By November he’ll have more clouds over him than Hiroshima did.

Your right about his leadership. Obama really has non. Look what he did about the tax cuts. Caving in to the GOP when we can’t afford it now. Look about the weak financial reform that was set up.

ndanielson said:
And you idiots call everybody else birthers??? You’re a clown.

You just don’t get it, do you? I’m raising that question to illustrate the stupidity of what you folks are asking.

If we demanded that politicians spend every waking hour disproving every crackpot theory about them, nothing would ever get done.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Mibwilso,
It’s a requirement to be a citizen to be POTUS, it’s not a requirement to be Trig’s mommy. Man you are really setthing with rage. Is that you Jeremiah?

You crackpots are demanding Obama’s transcripts too… as if that has anything to do with being president, so yes, we can ask silly questions about Sarah Palin too.

All it will take is for ONE State to pass a law requiring anyone running for POTUS to provide their legitimate long form BC in order for their name to appear on the ballot…if Obama still refuses…it won’t matter who the GOP nominee is…..the game will be all over for the community organizer.

Sooner or later Obama is going to have to turn his cards over…this has become to big of an issue now.

Who opened the troll gate?

I

mibwilso said:
You just don’t get it, do you? I’m raising that question to illustrate the stupidity of what you folks are asking.

That his past becomes public record??? Really? He WORKS FOR US. At least he’s supposed to.

ndnelson won’t answer the question about whether he/she’s an atheist or not. Hmmm….hiding something? Maybe he’s really a muslim!!

Trump clearly going for the comb-over and tea-bag vote.

Another Birther story! my gosh, the crazies would be flocking in. OK, guys you win, his parents met here, but decided to go and have the Baby in Nairobi Kenya, because of better health care. And also, maybe in future, that child might grow up to become Mr. President.

mibwilso said:
Maybe he’s really a muslim!!

Or a girl! He throws a baseball and swings a golf club like one.

His thesis that he paid millions to hide was about his Muslim Faith and Islam.

skyfet said:
Another Birther story! my gosh, the crazies would be flocking in. OK, guys you win, his parents met here, but decided to go and have the Baby in Nairobi Kenya, because of better health care. And also, maybe in future, that child might grow up to become Mr. President.

And, don’t forget, the Hawaii newspaper that announced his birth just faked it on the off chance that the little immigrant baby might run for president someday.

mibwilso, we would love to see his college musings because I think we all know he’s probably written some glowing essays on the greatness of communism and marxism. In my opinion, that is what he’s hiding. Or maybe his musings on Whitey. Who knows what we’d find! The point is, for some reason he doesn’t want us to know what he wrote during those years.

timzank said:
Nobody has ever hid them before, it looks bad.

First of all, do you believe in the right to privacy? If so, is the right to privacy abbrogated when someone runs for President? Obama is doing what any person would do, offer as little as possible of his private life. Or, does Obama have no personal right to privacy? Once Obama complied with the law, according to the state of his birth, and certified by that state to be a natural born citizen, he has no further obligation to reveal anything else. Long form, or any details beyond those required by Hawaiian law, are Obama’s private matter. His school records? His private matter.

Liberal Tormentor said:
mibwilso, we would love to see his college musings because I think we all know he’s probably written some glowing essays on the greatness of communism and marxism. In my opinion, that is what he’s hiding. Or maybe his musings on Whitey. Who knows what we’d find! The point is, for some reason he doesn’t want us to know what he wrote during those years.

And what would it prove to you if he did write something like that? You already think he’s a Socialist anyway.

He hid his grades because he was worse than a “C” student.

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
He hid his grades because he was worse than a “C” student.

Oooohh…so scandalous!

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
He hid his grades because he was worse than a “C” student.

McCain came in 2nd to last in his class at the Naval Academy…and he still ran for pres. What’s your point?

mibwilso said:
And what would it prove to you if he did write something like that? You already think he’s a Socialist anyway.

“Spread the wealth” ring any bells?

Liberal Tormentor said:
mibwilso, we would love to see his college musings because I think we all know he’s probably written some glowing essays on the greatness of communism and marxism. In my opinion, that is what he’s hiding. Or maybe his musings on Whitey. Who knows what we’d find! The point is, for some reason he doesn’t want us to know what he wrote during those years.

Yeah, that’s it. He done wrote about the greatness of communism and Marxism. Take a meth break.

mibwilso said:
You already think he’s a Socialist anyway.

Most of you clowns don’t care one way or the other. Thank our failing schools for that.

mibwilso says:
And what would it prove to you if he did write something like that? You already think he’s a Socialist anyway.

Well let me ask you, would you care? I’m guessing you wouldn’t because you probably agree. I would just like you libs to be honest about your beliefs and dreams of your vision for the country. Liberals hide their intentions because they know they will be rejected. Why do you think BO’s pretending to be a moderate?

mibwilso said:
McCain came in 2nd to last in his class at the Naval Academy…and he still ran for pres. What’s your point?

His past defeated him for clear thinking Americans. Good enough point, dummy?

mibwilso said:
McCain came in 2nd to last in his class at the Naval Academy…and he still ran for pres. What’s your point?

You made it for me. ;)

Liberal Tormentor said:
mibwilso, we would love to see his college musings because I think we all know he’s probably written some glowing essays on the greatness of communism and marxism. In my opinion, that is what he’s hiding. Or maybe his musings on Whitey. Who knows what we’d find! The point is, for some reason he doesn’t want us to know what he wrote during those years.

We’d like to see your GED (if you have it).

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
You made it for me. ;)

So, what’s the use in all of the bravado about Obama’s transcripts, then? If it doesn’t matter?

valkyrie101 said:
First of all, do you believe in the right to privacy? If so, is the right to privacy abbrogated when someone runs for President? Obama is doing what any person would do, offer as little as possible of his private life. Or, does Obama have no personal right to privacy? Once Obama complied with the law, according to the state of his birth, and certified by that state to be a natural born citizen, he has no further obligation to reveal anything else. Long form, or any details beyond those required by Hawaiian law, are Obama’s private matter. His school records? His private matter.

Elections are about perception Valk, his “transparency” perception has been shot to hell. People think he’s hiding all kinds of stuff. Does he have a right to privacy? Of course, but it’s going to cost him. He doesn’t have to disclose anything, but he does so (especially now) at his own peril cuz he can’t run on hope n change again, and that “most transparent administration in history” hasn’t emerged…..

Hence the clouds…

I’d love help you Sky, but I actually graduated. Judging from your spelling and grammar, you did not.

mibwilso said:
So, what’s the use in all of the bravado about Obama’s transcripts, then? If it doesn’t matter?

Who said it didn’t matter? I sure didn’t.

ndanielson said:
His past defeated him for clear thinking Americans. Good enough point, dummy?

Haha exactly. Thanks for making my point.. Clear-thinking Americans voted for Obama by a pretty wide margin.

ndanielson said:
His past defeated him for clear thinking Americans. Good enough point, dummy?

No thanks to ‘no child left behind’, I think they left you behind.

skyfet said:
We’d like to see your GED (if you have it).

But then, you’d like to see Garth naked. And we know which one you’d like to see more.

Liberal Tormentor said:
I’d love help you Sky,

You graduated from the barn up there in Utah.

mibwilso said:
Haha exactly. Thanks for making my point.. Clear-thinking Americans voted for Obama by a pretty wide margin.

52% is a “pretty wide margin?” LOL!

ndanielson said:
But then, you’d like to see Garth naked. And we know which one you’d like to see more.

You are just bitter because you’ve been exposed as a moron that you may or may not be.

I’m just saying, not judging.

mibwilso said:
Haha exactly. Thanks for making my point.. Clear-thinking Americans voted for Obama by a pretty wide margin.

You know why 0bama hid his past, then. And you dummies still voted for him, and still love him. We’re just getting that, fully, out into the open.

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
52% is a “pretty wide margin?” LOL!

A 6 point victory is the largest margin in the last 3 or 4 elections. More than Bush won by either time.

timzank said:
Elections are about perception Valk, his “transparency” perception has been shot to hell. People think he’s hiding all kinds of stuff. Does he have a right to privacy? Of course, but it’s going to cost him. He doesn’t have to disclose anything, but he does so (especially now) at his own peril cuz he can’t run on hope n change again, and that “most transparent administration in history” hasn’t emerged….. Hence the clouds…

Well then, you disagree with the birthers on the privacy issue. They believe that Obama should be required to provide more than the law requires, to wit: the mystical long form. As for this being an issue, it remains so in the head of a relatively small group of Fox viewers. And really, that is where the clouds are. The issue is bait for scoundrels pandering to the tea party folk.

mibwilso said:
A 6 point victory is the largest margin in the last 3 or 4 elections. More than Bush won by either time.

He won over a few independents and the blacks were going to vote for him, regardless.

ndanielson said:
You know why 0bama hid his past, then. And you dummies still voted for him, and still love him. We’re just getting that, fully, out into the open.

“Love” isn’t quite the right word….but I would say that I love having a Republican in the White House far far less.

Mib says:

A 6 point victory is the largest margin in the last 3 or 4 elections. More than Bush won by either time.

Bush was vetted Obama was NOT. He was shielded. You must have missed the jourOlism scandal.

ndanielson said:
You know why 0bama hid his past, then. And you dummies still voted for him, and still love him. We’re just getting that, fully, out into the open.

Yeah, he new he was going to be President one day, yet he wrote about Communism in a glowing way. Unbelievable, isn’t he an unrepentant Marxist?

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
He won over a few independents and the blacks were going to vote for him, regardless.

Right, but Blacks only account for about 15% of the population.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Mib says:

A 6 point victory is the largest margin in the last 3 or 4 elections. More than Bush won by either time.

Bush was vetted Obama was NOT. He was shielded. You must have missed the jourOlism scandal.

You graduated from the Barn, you have no right asking someone who finished in a higher education to prove their worth.

You liberals have voted for a man whose preacher hates America, and whose wife in all her life was never proud of America. And who hides every other aspect of his past! Wow. He must have just hidden the good stuff, we already know about the bad.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Mib says:

A 6 point victory is the largest margin in the last 3 or 4 elections. More than Bush won by either time.

Bush was vetted Obama was NOT.

Vetted by who? Oh yeah, the Supreme Court who installed him.

ndanielson said:
You liberals have voted for a man whose preacher hates America, and whose wife in all her life was never proud of America. And who hides every other aspect of his past! Wow. He must have just hidden the good stuff, we already know about the bad.

And American STILL picked him over your guy. What does that say?

(Nevermind, of course, that your side is heading for another White House defeat in 2012)

skyfet said:
Unbelievable, isn’t he an unrepentant Marxist?

That would be the socialist clown that you adore so fully, right?

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
He won over a few independents and the blacks were going to vote for him, regardless.

With you logic, lacks means Democrat. It’s news to me that all Dems are Blacks.

Skyfet says:

You graduated from the Barn, you have no right asking someone who finished in a higher education to prove their worth.

Um I do if they want to work for me and the POTUS works for me.

mibwilso said:
And American STILL picked him over your guy. What does that say?

(Nevermind, of course, that your side is heading for another White House defeat in 2012)

Too many bought into the hope and change. Some actually believed him, and the press did all it could to sell him, dummy. Where have you been? Dummy.

mibwilso said:
Haha exactly. Thanks for making my point.. Clear-thinking Americans voted for Obama by a pretty wide margin.

How’s that “clear thinking” working out for you with the 10% unemployment, skyrocketing food and gasoline costs, and a world that now disregards America as inconsequential?

ndanielson said:
You liberals have voted for a man whose preacher hates America, and whose wife in all her life was never proud of America. And who hides every other aspect of his past! Wow. He must have just hidden the good stuff, we already know about the bad.

Yet all of these were parroted on Fox news and talk radio, yet the people didn’t take your side. It must be sad being you, I hope you do not harm yourself.

Davo said:
How’s that “clear thinking” working out for you with the 10% unemployment, skyrocketing food and gasoline costs, and a world that now disregards America as inconsequential?

When Reagan left office, he left million more in poverty than when he came in. How did that worked out for ya?

There is NO birth Certificate.

And when the newly red-colored states (OH, WI, MI, ), plus others pass laws requiring a birth certificate in order to be on a ballot, there will be no re-election of BeeHO.

mibwilso said:
Vetted by who? Oh yeah, the Supreme Court who installed him.

Because your baby Gore whined and could not concede a loss. Still whining yourself, huh? He lost every re-count. Every one. All of them. Your ego clown Gore dragged the SCOTUS into it, like all the sissies on the left who cannot abide by the voting public.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Skyfet says:

You graduated from the Barn, you have no right asking someone who finished in a higher education to prove their worth.

Um I do if they want to work for me and the POTUS works for me.

Your Reps and Senator works for you. Your vote in Utah, Idaho doesn’t matter, it’s an automatic red. ahh, so keep kidding yourself as to who works for whom.

skyfet said:
When Reagan left office, he left million more in poverty than when he came in. How did that worked out for ya?

*drink*

Trumps right, and that’s why all the anti-free speech Liberals rush up to say, “no, no, no, no………………you can’t say that, Donald.” But I think the bad guys have won this one……………..not enough outrage from the outset PRIOR to the election.

Laddy Go-Rod said:
There is NO birth Certificate.

And when the newly red-colored states (OH, WI, MI, ), plus others pass laws requiring a birth certificate in order to be on a ballot, there will be no re-election of BeeHO.

Good Christ!!! Do you think he knows this?

To be fair Davo, skyrocketing gas prices were Obama’s STATED goal. Yeah, you guys that voted for him are really clear thinking!

Liberal Tormentor said:
To be fair Davo, skyrocketing gas prices were Obama’s STATED goal. Yeah, you guys that voted for him are really clear thinking!

And bankrupting the coal industry. They can charge their Priuses with pixie dust from 0bama’s a$$. Skyclown could be a pixie dust collector, in 0bama’s make believe economy.

ndanielson said:
Because your baby Gore whined and could not concede a loss. Still whining yourself, huh? He lost every re-count. Every one. All of them. Your ego clown Gore dragged the SCOTUS into it, like all the sissies on the left who cannot abide by the voting public.

Damned right. If Bill Clinton could have refrained from fondling his chubby, plain assistant, and then lying to Congress about it, Gore would probably have won easily. The economic slump that started to emerge at the very tail end of Clinton’s presidency would have happened on Gore’s watch. I think he’d have been a one termer. We’d never have had Bush or Palin. Probably eight years of McCain in there somewhere.

ndanielson said:
And bankrupting the coal industry. They can charge their Priuses with pixie dust from 0bama’s a$$. Skyclown could be a pixie dust collector, in 0bama’s make believe economy.

Dont deflect from talking about your favorite topic (Birth Certificate). Common, let’s talk about how his parents traveled for thousands of miles to east Africa, to give birth to a child that they know would one day become President.

Jeebus, Logic Tormenter, he was talking about skyrocketing electricity prices from the those coal-powered utilities who didn’t clean up their acts under cap and trade. Conservatives could fuck up a wet dream…when the can get it up.

Davo said:
Trumps right, and that’s why all the anti-free speech Liberals rush up to say, “no, no, no, no………………you can’t say that, Donald.” But I think the bad guys have won this one……………..not enough outrage from the outset PRIOR to the election.

Yeah, whatever you said.

david r said:
Probably eight years of McCain in there somewhere.

A nightmare if I ever heard one. When we get a conservative in office, I hope we NEVER cross the isle for a good 80 years, to undo this 80 years of liberal crap.

Trump told the truth.

skyfet said:
Dont deflect from talking about your favorite topic (Birth Certificate). Common, let’s talk about how his parents traveled for thousands of miles to east Africa, to give birth to a child that they know would one day become President.

I care more about his preacher, and his wife hating America. That says so much more about the man, don’t you think? I know you don’t. Rhetorical question, skyclown.

ndanielson said:
…to undo this 80 years of liberal crap

And here I thought we’d just come through the so-called Age of Reagan. Kind of appropriate, given the Gipper’s affliction, that conservatives can’t seem to remember it.

ndanielson said:
I care more about his preacher, and his wife hating America. That says so much more about the man, don’t you think? I know you don’t. Rhetorical question, skyclown.

You are deflecting because you realize how ridiculous you sound. You use to champion the Birther cause, now you are hiding away from it. I’m disappointed in you, stick to your just cause.

I care more about his preacher, and his wife hating America. That says so much more about the man, don’t you think?

The Dweller Ysul said:
And here I thought we’d just come through the so-called Age of Reagan. Kind of appropriate, given the Gipper’s affliction, that conservatives can’t seem to remember it.

This is America’s affliction. America will never forget it.

skyfet said:
You are deflecting because you realize how ridiculous you sound. You use to champion the Birther cause, now you are hiding away from it. I’m disappointed in you, stick to your just cause.

I’d like to see what your boy is hiding skyclown, but what’s the point? I already know he’s worthless. Nothing will change your mind. Stupid to the bone is stupid to the bone.

I think its a shame that a media whore with billions of dollars can’t do something about the hair. This is a mystery.

ndanielson said:
A nightmare if I ever heard one. When we get a conservative in office, I hope we NEVER cross the isle for a good 80 years, to undo this 80 years of liberal crap.

Seems like it has all been nightmares since Reagan. I liked George HW Bush well enough. I voted against Clinton the first time, but not the second. I thought he was pretty good, then was totally let down by his conduct and the dishonor he brought to the office. I never had faith in Bush II, and never voted for him for Governor nor President. What we have now is totally amateurish and out of control.

juan said:
Everybody knows the one he provided is a FRAUD!

Not according to the State of Hawaii. Are they in on it too?

ndanielson said:
I’d like to see what your boy is hiding skyclown, but what’s the point? I already know he’s worthless. Nothing will change your mind. Stupid to the bone is stupid to the bone.

lol, I think I may have touched a freaking birther nerve. Come on Birther, stand up for your right!

There have always been conspiracy wacko types out there who want to see any president’s birth certificate. They’ve always been ignored. The left has been pouncing on it this time. Is it because Obama’s black?

Liberals . Tryin’ to cover up Obama ‘s secrets and shady past will do you no good from now on . Since gettin’ in ,Obama has pulled every sneaky thing he could , without workin’ too hard . . He is now shown to be a lazy , incompetent ,lyin’ coward . Truth has a way of poppin ‘ up . You’re droppin’ your bucket down a dry well tryin’ to bull your way through it again . Hoyt Axton said it best :

He said: “When it all comes down
I hope it doesn’t land on you
When the truth is found
I hope it will be true to you.”

“All I’m sayin’ is have a nice day
I hope it doesn’t rain on your parade
An’ when it all comes down
I hope it doesn’t land on you…”

ndanielson said:
America will never forget it.

Well, how could we? There’ll be ObamaCare around to remind us, and our children, and our grandchildren, who’ll all be named Barack, even the girls. Then, of course, there’ll the Obama Doctrine, which will be defined as never having entered a military conflict without a post-war strategy (and/or with our heads up our asses…see the Bush Doctrine). And in a century, or so, historians will come to refer to the Age of Obama, the defining characteristic of which will be the spontaneously exploding heads of conservatives confronted with their dead ideology.

Enjoy things while you can, N.

Liberal Tormentor said:
If someone wants to be POTUS, they shouldn’t be afraid to provide you with info you have written on your beliefs. The fact he’s not willing to do that speaks volumes.

Why? The man has a right to privacy and he is exercising it. On the other hand, Obama’s certified birth certificate, per the State of Hawaii, is on-line everywhere, as well as some birth announcements that ran in the local papers soon after his birth.

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
52% is a “pretty wide margin?” LOL!

Electoral college (which is the way things work by the way) – Obama – 365, McCain – 173. Gosh, it seems like a landslide when you look at it that way.

Why would Jeffrey Immelt and Sandy Burglars lawyer be jetting around with Obama in Air Force One? That doesn’t pass the stink test.

valkyrie101 said:
Why? The man has a right to privacy and he is exercising it. On the other hand, Obama’s certified birth certificate, per the State of Hawaii, is on-line everywhere, as well as some birth announcements that ran in the local papers soon after his birth.

Your partisan hypocrisy knows no bounds does it? Show me one post from you where you said the same thing with regard to Sarah Palin, please.

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
Why would Jeffrey Immelt and Sandy Burglars lawyer be jetting around with Obama in Air Force One? That doesn’t pass the stink test.

Probably has something to do with sharia law. Or maybe Immelt is hiding GE engines in Burglars socks…mmmm? Phewee!!

Go back to your cookies and milk, garth. The question was for someone with integrity of which you have none.

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
Go back to your cookies and milk, garth. The question was for someone with integrity of which you have none.

C’mon Robert Stephenson blah, blah, blah. No need to be an asshole. Then again.

This whole non issue is silly non sense. But that was really entertaining

Garth said:
C’mon Robert Stephenson blah, blah, blah. No need to be an asshole. Then again.

Then why are you?

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
Then why are you?

“drink”

Leave it to the channel that brought us Path to 911 to hit the applause button right after Donald says I just want him to show the birth certificate. What a douchebag channel.

Jesus Christ…… Is it really that hard to talk one at a time?? The View more often than not sounds like a chicken coop. Barbara should make the women raise their hand and be called on before being allowed to speak…hhmmmm…..where was it I learned that?? Oh yeah…. 1st grade… lol

Nothing was resolved here in this nest of cackling hens!

Pokerdude777 said:
Jesus Christ…… Is it really that hard to talk one at a time?? The View more often than not sounds like a chicken coop. Barbara should make the women raise their hand and be called on before being allowed to speak…hhmmmm…..where was it I learned that?? Oh yeah…. 1st grade… lol

So you actually watch this trash?

Why does anyone political every go on there, especially if their leanings are to the right? If they don’t like your opinion they’ll either call you names or walk out.

JJ Vachon said:
Nothing was resolved here in this nest of cackling hens!

Something was resolved. The libs don’t care if Obama was a flunkie or if his thesis (IF he wrote one) was on Islam. Also, they don’t care if he was born in Kenya.

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
Something was resolved. The libs don’t care if Obama was a flunkie or if his thesis (IF he wrote one) was on Islam. Also, they don’t care if he was born in Kenya.

Pure pablum. Nice try though.

A few weeks back, Mr. Luffa (O’reilly) was wondering why liberals spend so much time debunking birther theories. This is why. Trump knows that the VAST MAJORITY of teabagger/GOP pigs believe that Obama is a Kenyan Muslim. He is preaching to the choir. More proof that right wingers are inferior to liberals.

sean_m said:
Why does anyone political every go on there, especially if their leanings are to the right? If they don’t like your opinion they’ll either call you names or walk out.

Actually, it’s because of the audience. The perception is it’s all lefty all the time, and that’s true of the panel but I think that’s a misconception about who is watching. They’re drawing a huge female audience that I doubt is all libs…The major networks draw people from all walks of life and The View is 90% entertainment & gossipy hollywood crap and 10% explosive political stuff. None of us here watch it except when there is a political clip to comment on, about twice a month.

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
Something was resolved. The libs don’t care if Obama was a flunkie or if his thesis (IF he wrote one) was on Islam. Also, they don’t care if he was born in Kenya.

The folks that comment here, the dyed in the wool Obamaites, could catch Barry in bed naked, with the remaining members of the Jackson Five, and a knife, and three of them dead and they would give him a pass.

It matters not what he’s done, what he says he’ll do, or what he says he’s done, or what he promised to do and never did, he’s black and handsome and for some that’s enough.

damn you wingnuts are stupid as hell….im glad im not one of you dumbasses…i guess youve resigned yourselves to the fact that Obama is unbeatable so youre going to just keep making asses out of yourselves….keep up the good work

ProObamaAgenda said:
damn you wingnuts are stupid as hell….im glad im not one of you dumbasses…i guess youve resigned yourselves to the fact that Obama is unbeatable so youre going to just keep making asses out of yourselves….keep up the good work

Thanks for stopping by Keith, tell Al his other three viewers said Hi!!

Trump said:
“there’s something on that birth certificate that he doesn’t like,”

Could it be that it lists his religion as Muslim? Or, that uber leftist Frank Marshall Davis is really O-Bummer’s father? Or, there’s no “father” listed there whatsoever? Maybe the Donald can get to the bottom of this?!

But I truly do have doubts that anyone can get to the bottom if this. Because IF, Hawaii DOES in fact have an original long form birth certificate for Mr O-Bummer, they’ve got it buried so deep behind a phalanx of ultra far leftist neo-communist Democrat operatives, the Clinton’s couldn’t even get at it.

Just Tex said:
Could it be that it lists his religion as Muslim? Or, that uber leftist Frank Marshall Davis is really O-Bummer’s father? Or, there’s no “father” listed there whatsoever? Maybe the Donald can get to the bottom of this?! But I truly do have doubts that anyone can get to the bottom if this. Because IF, Hawaii DOES in fact have an original long form birth certificate for Mr O-Bummer, they’ve got it buried so deep behind a phalanx of ultra far leftist neo-communist Democrat operatives, the Clinton’s couldn’t even get at it.

Seriously.

What in the hell is wrong with you people?

Btw, here is a picture from one of your crazyville blongs of the so-called “long form” from Hawaii.

http://nocompromisemedia.com/2009/07/28/unveiled-hawaiis-1961-long-form-birth-certificates/

Item first: It was called a freaking Certificate of Live Birth.

Now to your first crazyville question: Why Obama doesn’t have his? HE LIKELY LOST IT! I had to order a new one myself when I renewed my passport. Guess what I was sent? Yep. Certificate of Live Birth.

Now, back to your specific crazyville theory.

1. There is no place on there for a religion. Even if there is SO FREAKING WHAT??? He never denied that his father was a Muslim. I don’t suppose you’ve ever actually read “Dreams From My Father”? It is in there. Grandfather too. This isn’t a secret you’ve undercovered.

2. IT LISTS HIS DAMNED FATHER ON THE CERTIFICATE. Just like mine does. Just like yours.

Don’t like the guy. Don’t vote for the guy. Whatever. You have the right to whatever freaking beliefs you want.

But you don’t get your own damned facts.

Please let this freaking stupidity end.

catfishjuggling said:
Seriously.

What in the hell is wrong with you people?

According to the Obots, we are just a bunch of knuckle dragging idiots(and many many more insults) for even asking the question because they can’t debate the issue : (

And you could have a video of freaking John F. Kennedy sitting next to his mother with a dated newspaper and an apple pie when Obama is popping out of his mother’s lady parts AND YOU STILL WOULDN”T BELIEVE IT.

Colorado_Conservative said:
According to the Obots, we are just a bunch of knuckle dragging idiots(and many many more insults) for even asking the question because they can’t debate the issue : (

You can’t debate the irrational.

gordonbloyershow said:
Obama is good at hiding his past. Obama is unable to do his job. He won’t show his grades because he was an affirmative action special.

Its known in all the recent past presidents we know there IQ level and grade point average in college except one. which you are right they will not release Obama’s information. yet no reporters ask why?

Good luck trying to shut Donald Trump up Barack. You gots lots of splain’in to do before the American people.Also, we know where you live this time, so you can run, but you just can’t hide.

This is officially the dumbest place on the internet. Congrats Dan!

Yoda002 said:
Where was Bush’s grades? C’s and D’s don’t get you into Yale! It does help when your grandpa was the president of Yale, Preston Bush.

You Lie and are ignorant.
Bushs IQ level was average to all Yale graduates. Clinton had a higher IQ and Kerry had a lower IQ then Bush.
They also would not let you be a pilot of a military jet if you got C’s and D’s you need to be pretty intelligent no matter who your father is.

http://2004.georgewbush.org/bios/yale-transcript.asp

There are lots of Cs and Ds on there. Yet he still flew.

Doesn’t make him a bad Presdient though.

But facts are facts. He got Cs and Ds.

Gosh, a trasncript – I wonder why the l.iberal left loonie media have never asked obama for his transcripts? Why is he hiding those along with his birth certificate and other papers?

Inquiring minds want to know (unless of course you are in the media, then you only want to know something/anything/everything about conservatives and nothing/nada about democrats.

catfishjuggling said:
You can’t debate the irrational.

I agree!
Facts are facts and the Obots cannot debate them so they turn to hurling insults because that is all they have left!!

Yeah. I didn’t link to any facts.

One of the theories is that Obama’s real birth certificate has “white/Caucasian” checked and/or his name is listed as “Barry.”

…which means it’s a matter of embarrassment.

Regardless, he should release it.

Alz said:
One of the theories is that Obama’s real birth certificate has “white/Caucasian” checked and/or his name is listed as “Barry.” …which means it’s a matter of embarrassment. Regardless, he should release it.

Dipshit. His name is on the freaking birth certificate he released And it is Barack. And his father is on it and listed as African. But even if it were Barry WHY IN THE NAME OF NUTCASEVILLE WOULD IT FREAKING MATTER???????????

And why would he be embarrased about being listed as white? You may have heard HIS FREAKING MOTHER WAS WHITE!!!!!!

Please. Can we debate maybe spending?? Or tax reform? Or wars???? Please.

Robert Stephenson Hearts Mark Schultz said:
Your partisan hypocrisy knows no bounds does it? Show me one post from you where you said the same thing with regard to Sarah Palin, please.

So Sarah’s not a U.S. citizen, too? Crazy world.

catfishjuggling said:
Dipshit. His name is on the freaking birth certificate he released And it is Barack. And his father is on it and listed as African. But even if it were Barry WHY IN THE NAME OF NUTCASEVILLE WOULD IT FREAKING MATTER???????????

And why would he be embarrased about being listed as white? You may have heard HIS FREAKING MOTHER WAS WHITE!!!!!!

Please. Can we debate maybe spending?? Or tax reform? Or wars???? Please.

No. All the guy has to do is release the real Birth Certificate, not a Certificate of Live Birth, etc. It is possible to get a certificate after the fact.

Obama can end this by producing it. If HE was interested in solving real problems, HE would release it. Instead, we’re left to guess.

Hi Crazyville.

He did.

Then what is this about??? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348916/Hawaii-governor-says-Obamas-birth-record-exists-produce-it.html

catfishjuggling said:
This is officially the dumbest place on the internet. Congrats Dan!

If you leave this site it will become instantly smarter.

But personally I don’t care about his birth certificate I just want him gone. But I wonder how he got a driver license or an valid ID without one. So if he’s got one show it so we all stop talking about it.

Question.. Would Biden become President if somehow they prove Obama wasn’t born in the U.S. ? If so I hope he doesn’t show it. Biden would be a dangerous president. He thinks he is the smartest guy in a crowded room when everyone else in the room knows he’s the dumbest. Even liberals know this, they just don’t admit it openly.

He got a driver’s license….and a valid ID…and a passport BECAUSE IT IS A FREAKING BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!!

You freaking people are from Mars.

catfishjuggling said:
He got a driver’s license….and a valid ID…and a passport BECAUSE IT IS A FREAKING BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!!

You freaking people are from Mars.

You fool. Illegals get licenses all the time. here, see the results of more stupid liberal thinking: http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2011/03/illegal_lapd_impound_dui.php

the article said:
Although when Trump declared “there’s something on that birth certificate that he doesn’t like,” that’s what finally unleashed Whoopi Goldberg and her opinion.
Whoopi responded to Trump saying, “I think that’s the biggest pile of dog mess I’ve heard in ages” and asked “it’s not because he’s black, is it?” Trump said it has nothing to do with that, but Whoopi continued, “because I’ve never heard a white president asked to show his birth certificate. When you become a President of the United States of America, you know that he’s American.

Goldberg is getting unnecessarily defensive and playing the race card. Actually, I don’t remember there being any other president whose background or birthplace or citizenship was in question. During the campaign we’re usually shown pics from birth to current of the candidates, along with the towns they were born in, the schools they attended, and so forth.
I’m not an expert on the subject, but I don’t think there are many past presidents who were raised outside of the U.S., hence we have not had this discussion in the past.

For the record, ANY person who runs for President, regardless of race, sex, or creed, should be able to prove birth, and will probably have to from here forward.

Ok….I’m going to accept your premise.

Our stupid Kenyan President who was born in Kenya.

Stupid Kenyan.

And then he fooled stupid people.

And then THE ENTIRE NATIONAL SECURITY APPARATUS OF THE UNITED STATES TO OVER THE KEY CODES TO A NUCLEAR ARSENAL TO HIM.

So, at best his security clearance was done in a flawed manner. I mean it isn’t much. You know, it’s just the President. I mean no one in the spook rooms of the CIA either knew or bothered to stop this. And the entire apparatus of the NSA just willy niily turned over everything to some sort of foreign guy who is not allowed to be President.

I mean, at a minimum, they are really bad at their jobs in your crazy world.

Yeah. I’m the stupid one.

catfishjuggling said:
Btw, here is a picture from one of your crazyville blongs of the so-called “long form” from Hawaii. http://nocompromisemedia.com/2009/07/28/unveiled-hawaiis-1961-long-form-birth-certificates/ Item first: It was called a freaking Certificate of Live Birth. Now to your first crazyville question: Why Obama doesn’t have his? HE LIKELY LOST IT! I had to order a new one myself when I renewed my passport. Guess what I was sent? Yep. Certificate of Live Birth. Now, back to your specific crazyville theory. 1. There is no place on there for a religion. Even if there is SO FREAKING WHAT??? He never denied that his father was a Muslim. I don’t suppose you’ve ever actually read “Dreams From My Father”? It is in there. Grandfather too. This isn’t a secret you’ve undercovered. 2. IT LISTS HIS DAMNED FATHER ON THE CERTIFICATE. Just like mine does. Just like yours. Don’t like the guy. Don’t vote for the guy. Whatever. You have the right to whatever freaking beliefs you want. But you don’t get your own damned facts. Please let this freaking stupidity end.

catfishjuggling: These idiots are manipulated with racial, religious and economic anxieties by Glenn Beck and the other talking heads. The problem is that they believe the rhetoric and become overzealous haters without a legitimate reason to hate.

Let’s start a new theory, the speaker of the house has a nice tan 24/7/365, maybe he is not all white!!!

As Glenn (cry me a river) Beck says “I”M JUST SAYING!”

Well if you are familar with the Glenn Beck 1990 meme, it is an excellent example of how silly this whole thing is.

My father is a birther btw. Had the whole rant. I really enjoyed recently showing him my certificate of live birth that I got when my passport was renewed. I then asked him what he was hiding.

He just changed the subject and said there were other things he is not telling the truth about.

Just amazing.

276 comments? Are you kidding me? I couldn’t read them all, but skimming them looked like thumbs ups have it. Obama needs to give it up. What does the original BC say anyway?

Here are a few things that go through an honest persons mind when told that not even the Governor of Hawaii can be privy to the original birth record of the sitting POTUS.

The question is why would our president withold consent?
Obama witholds his consent because….. That is what someone who despises the Constitution would do.
Obama witholds his consent because….. That is what someone who has contempt for Americans would do.
Obama witholds his consent because….. That is what a Democrat would do.
Obama witholds his consent because….. The dear old family friend and Governor means nothing to him.
Obama witholds his consent because….. That is what an enemy to the truth would do.
Obama witholds his consent because….. That’s what someone who has something to hide would do.
Obama witholds his consent because….. That’s what one does to punish his enemies (the American people)….would do.
Obama witholds his consent because….. That’s what someone who is protecting other dishonest people would do.
Obama witholds his consent because….. (Go ahead fill in the blank, but none of it is honest admit it.)

Oh but that is just Crazy Talk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xryXpK042pQ

Alz said:
No. All the guy has to do is release the real Birth Certificate, not a Certificate of Live Birth, etc. It is possible to get a certificate after the fact.

Obama can end this by producing it. If HE was interested in solving real problems, HE would release it. Instead, we’re left to guess.

Again, that’s A LOAD OF BS. Are you serious, Alz? You think ANY piece of paper is going to satisfy these deranged Obama haters?

The only people “left to guess” are the Anesthetized Fox News junkies and Hate Radio zombies who believe anything angry old people in suits yell at them over the airwaves.

njoy-d-ride said:
Goldberg is getting unnecessarily defensive and playing the race card. Actually, I don’t remember there being any other president whose background or birthplace or citizenship was in question. During the campaign we’re usually shown pics from birth to current of the candidates, along with the towns they were born in, the schools they attended, and so forth.
I’m not an expert on the subject, but I don’t think there are many past presidents who were raised outside of the U.S., hence we have not had this discussion in the past.

No, it’s about race and xenophobia. The Republicans have been trying since day one to claim Barack Obama is “not a real American”, “not one of us”, “foreign”. That’s what the wing-nut birther base believes in. That’s why Huckabee did his Mao-Mao crap…because the base of the GOP is comprised older, mostly White conservatives and this stuff fires ‘em up.

Liberty_Hound said:
So if he’s got one show it so we all stop talking about it.

Because that’s not what this is about anyway. You and the birthers wouldn’t believe ANY certificate produced–short, long, signed in blood, DNA, satellite images…etc. And you’d be on to the next “disqualifyer” afterwards. They’re starting now….
“Where’s his transcripts?”
“Where’s his friends from school?”….

Sorry. Thinly veiled.

–Cobra

catfishjuggling said:
My father is a birther btw.

You poor dear! Good thing intelligence skips a generation or you’d probably be one of those baggers too!

Just Tex said:
Could it be that it lists his religion as Muslim? Or, that uber leftist Frank Marshall Davis is really O-Bummer’s father?

Stoopid bagger! Obama’s daddy was Malcolm X! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVDI0wpyb68

Garth said:
C’mon Robert Stephenson blah, blah, blah. No need to be an asshole. Then again.

Now that’s how you put someone in their place ^5

Cobra said:
Liberty_Hound said:
So if he’s got one show it so we all stop talking about it.

Because that’s not what this is about anyway. You and the birthers wouldn’t believe ANY certificate produced–short, long, signed in blood, DNA, satellite images…etc. And you’d be on to the next “disqualifyer” afterwards. They’re starting now….
“Where’s his transcripts?”
“Where’s his friends from school?”….

Sorry. Thinly veiled.

I’m not a birther… I’m kinda worse… I don’t think Obama was even born ..the way most think of being born.. (I know, a really bad joke, but sometime I wonder).. And you are right.. I don’t believe much he has to say.

By the way..to catfishjuggling… I lost my birth certificate once a really long time and had to order it / have it sent to me. They sent me a real “notarized” copy of the original because the original stays put. So really when I lost it it wasn’t really the original I lost it was a copy. I guess that thing Obama got when he lost his was notarized, right? I mean I really don’t care just I’m just asking since you know so much on this subject.

Cobra said:
Again, that’s A LOAD OF BS. Are you serious, Alz? You think ANY piece of paper is going to satisfy these deranged Obama haters?

The only people “left to guess” are the Anesthetized Fox News junkies and Hate Radio zombies who believe anything angry old people in suits yell at them over the airwaves.

No, it’s about race and xenophobia. The Republicans have been trying since day one to claim Barack Obama is “not a real American”, “not one of us”, “foreign”. That’s what the wing-nut birther base believes in. That’s why Huckabee did his Mao-Mao crap…because the base of the GOP is comprised older, mostly White conservatives and this stuff fires ‘em up.

Because that’s not what this is about anyway. You and the birthers wouldn’t believe ANY certificate produced–short, long, signed in blood, DNA, satellite images…etc. And you’d be on to the next “disqualifyer” afterwards. They’re starting now….
“Where’s his transcripts?”
“Where’s his friends from school?”….

Sorry. Thinly veiled.

–Cobra

The burden is on Obama. All he had to do is produce the darned thing and the issue would have died off. We’re in 2011 and stuff like this is still going on: “Hawaii governor claims record of Obama’s birth ‘exists in archives’ but can’t produce the vital document” at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348916/Hawaii-governor-says-Obamas-birth-record-exists-produce-it.html

I agree that it is out of hand, but Obama is the one who could have squashed it years ago before anyone got any traction.

is Joy getting that Aflac duck gig?

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Maybe his Birth Certificate lists him as white and that is why he doesn’t show it. He’s afraid he’d lose all his “street cred” and have to quit calling all his detractors racists.

tgk said:
Maybe his Birth Certificate lists him as white and that is why he doesn’t show it. He’s afraid he’d lose all his “street cred” and have to quit calling all his detractors racists.

You’d have to blame the Doc for seeing him as white.

tgk said:
Maybe his Birth Certificate lists him as white and that is why he doesn’t show it. He’s afraid he’d lose all his “street cred” and have to quit calling all his detractors racists.

I guess I should add that my comment was said in jest. Too early in the a.m. I guess

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The_Reasonable_Lib said:
You know what’s funny; conservatives get mad at liberals if we say that somebody got somewhere due to affirmative action but will then spew the same thing themselves and face no consequences. Hypocrisy.

What’s funny is that liberals never accuse anyone of getting anything as a result of affirmative action, with the possible exception being if the person they so accuse happens to be a conservative/Republican such as Justice Clarence Thomas or Condoleeza Rice.

Alz said:
The burden is on Obama. All he had to do is produce the darned thing and the issue would have died off. We’re in 2011 and stuff like this is still going on: “Hawaii governor claims record of Obama’s birth ‘exists in archives’ but can’t produce the vital document” at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348916/Hawaii-governor-says-Obamas-birth-record-exists-produce-it.html

I agree that it is out of hand, but Obama is the one who could have squashed it years ago before anyone got any traction.

OK…Alz. I’ll play your silly game. If the first African-American President was forced to produce a “birth certificate”, who would YOU trust enough to verify that it was accurate?

LordHowardHurts said:
It is best that the Mossad turn all its information over to WorldNetDaily, and let them continue to “push” for the immediate removal of Obama.

ROTFLMBAO!!!! “World Net Daily?” Why don’t you cite the Weekly World News instead? At least they’re ENTERTAINING in their outrageous stories.
http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/31117/siberian-yeti/

Yukon Jack said:
What’s funny is that liberals never accuse anyone of getting anything as a result of affirmative action, with the possible exception being if the person they so accuse happens to be a conservative/Republican such as Justice Clarence Thomas or Condoleeza Rice.

Are you saying that somebody who graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School wasn’t qualified to be enrolled there?

–Cobra

I don’t see anything wrong with producing a valid birth certificate. I moved from one state to another and was required to produce a valid birth certificate to obtain a drivers license even though I had a drivers license from my former state for 45 years. My original birth certificate was not accepted as proof of citizenship, I was required to produce a certificate from the bureau of vital statistics in my former state. Although it was a hassle my wife and I did so to obtain our drivers license. I don’t see why a person as important as the president is doesn’t have to prove he is a citizen of the U.S.A. There never was any doubt about former presidents citizenship, but Obama’s past is in question. His grand mother stated he was born in Kenya and she was in attendence at his birth. Shortly after Obama’s announcement to run for president his grand mother past away.
This may be a coincidence but it seems very convenient and leaves some doubt about his citizenship. Obama claimed he was professor at Harvard Law School, yet nobody that studied there seems to remember him.

The reason President Obama doesn’t release his birth certificate is very simple. It is a devisive political issue that continues to pay off in so many ways. Consider the animosity and disagreement between the preceding commenters. Releasing the birth certificate would be trivial. Most of us have it in a drawer or somewhere safe, and have to produce it once in a while. But as long as the question remains, people will take the bait and overreach – ie. they will move beyond demanding for the release, and start making assertions they cannot prove. This allows Obamas allies, proxies and surrogates to label those people “birthers”, “racists” and “teabaggers”. And because the idea that the President of the United States of America may not be a citizen is so inconceivable, most are sympathetic to the President, and many worthwhile issues raised by staunch conservatives are ingored as being the rantings of “birthers” or “baggers”. No it makes no sense politically for Obama to give up this valuable issue.

Cobra said:
OK…Alz. I’ll play your silly game. If the first African-American President was forced to produce a “birth certificate”, who would YOU trust enough to verify that it was accurate?

ROTFLMBAO!!!! “World Net Daily?” Why don’t you cite the Weekly World News instead? At least they’re ENTERTAINING in their outrageous stories.
http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/31117/siberian-yeti/

Are you saying that somebody who graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School wasn’t qualified to be enrolled there?

–Cobra

Cobra, it’s all a mess now because Obama didn’t produce it. It’s like talking about Sadaam being connected to 9/11. You lefty’s spent a huge amount of time spreading that even though Bush was very careful to talk about Sadaam’s support for terrorism and for violating the UN’s resolutions. The truth is hard to reach. In this case, Obama could have squelched this YEARS ago.

You’re right…at this point, i don’t know who I would believe – but it’s not my fault, it’s Obama’s.

As for Harvard, his work there is questionable. How does someone get on the Harvard law Review (even being president) without doing any writing? As far as i know, Obama wrote ONE paper – on abortion.

I also know that the Wikipedia page covering the Harvard Law Review was edited around election time to minimize/eliminate the qualifications for getting on the law review. Specifically, the passages about affirmative action were neutered. Since Obama didn’t write anything of note, he was “selected” to be on the Law Review rather than the honor being earned.

As for Trump, what Trump is really saying is how strange it is that we know so little about Obama. And what we do know is scary. Think of Ayers, Rev Wright, Rezko, Blago, etc.

Obama claimed to be a uniter not a divider, of course that was campaign talk. Politicians will say anything to get your vote. The democrats did not win the presidency, the republicans lost it with their poor choice of candidates. McCain was never a favorite of the party and the only reason he got as many votes as he did was because of Palin. If the ticket was reversed there is a good chance that the republicans might have won. So now we have a president that has no executive experience, hasn’t even managed a cool aid stand, is not responsible for anything when things go wrong. We are involved in 2 wars and he gets us involved in another and goes on vacation. What a country.

Spike1 said:
Obama claimed to be a uniter not a divider, of course that was campaign talk. Politicians will say anything to get your vote. The democrats did not win the presidency, the republicans lost it with their poor choice of candidates. McCain was never a favorite of the party and the only reason he got as many votes as he did was because of Palin. If the ticket was reversed there is a good chance that the republicans might have won. So now we have a president that has no executive experience, hasn’t even managed a cool aid stand, is not responsible for anything when things go wrong. We are involved in 2 wars and he gets us involved in another and goes on vacation. What a country.

He was never a uniter. He’s a community organizer – which means magnifying resentments, building and maintaining anger and seeking differences that can be used for the two previous aspects.. That’s what he does and that is his history.

He is not only Black… he is also a white!…just because his skin is a little Darker Does not make him all Black…remember his Mother is Caucasian..and he just needs to produce the Birth certificate and be done with it..
He is a poor Leader…seems to like hiding information from his Employers…US!!!

Who cares what color his skin is, it doesn’t make any difference one way or another. What matters is his ideology which is not in the best interest of our nation. Our nation was once independent of the world and can be once again under the right leadership. Ross Perot and Ron Paul would have made fine presidents but, the voters chose to believe the BS of Clinton, Bush and Obama. Clinton could have had Osama eliminated, W. wasted lives going into Iraq. Well now it’s Obama’s turn, he has to have his own war too. The line of idiotic politicians is endless. Didn’t we learn a dam thing from Viet Nam.

When did “W” tell the truth about 9/11 ? He invaded Iraq on a passel of lies and that is a proven fact ! Oh, yes, he got congressional proof, with the same lies. As far as I am concerned the only mistakes Obama has made it letting the tea baggers push him around and I certainly hope and pray he stands up to them before this country is in a worse mess than it is today, thanks to “W” and his cohort “C”. Donald Trump is a joke, along with Palin and Michele….I am from a very red mormon state and unfortunately those in this state follow the whims of the predominate religion without nary a thought of their own. I happen to be married to a very upstanding mormon man and by heck he agrees with me…imagine that !

Spike1 said:
There never was any doubt about former presidents citizenship, but Obama’s past is in question.

According to WHOM? What you’ve been Taught by all those “unionized librul” teachers?

Spike1 said:
I don’t see why a person as important as the president is doesn’t have to prove he is a citizen of the U.S.A.

When you show me the birther movements against ANY of the past White Presidents, as opposed to the first BLACK one….your question might have some clout.

Alz said:
In this case, Obama could have squelched this YEARS ago.

Nonsense. This birther NONSENSE is just one of the many whack-job conspiracies about President Obama such as…
Obama’s the “12th Imam”…
http://dyn.politico.com/members/forums/thread.cfm?catid=2&subcatid=7&threadid=5113224
Obama’s the “Antichrist”…
http://www.newsweek.com/2008/11/15/is-obama-the-antichrist.html
Obama’s Campaign was funded by Hugo Chavez…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/03/11-most-paranoid-obama-co_n_343771.html?slidenumber=%2BL%2BXMh7oz2c%3D&slideshow#slide_image
And my favorite, from the same link….part of Obama’s Nomination Night speech, when played backwards, says..”Serve Satan!”

This Birther stuff is so 2008, Alz. You need to get with the devil/prophecy stuff like all the COOL kids are doing today.

–Cobra

Liberty_Hound said:
I’m not a birther… I’m kinda worse… I don’t think Obama was even born ..the way most think of being born.. (I know, a really bad joke, but sometime I wonder).. And you are right.. I don’t believe much he has to say. By the way..to catfishjuggling… I lost my birth certificate once a really long time and had to order it / have it sent to me. They sent me a real “notarized” copy of the original because the original stays put. So really when I lost it it wasn’t really the original I lost it was a copy. I guess that thing Obama got when he lost his was notarized, right? I mean I really don’t care just I’m just asking since you know so much on this subject.

Yes it was notarized. You are right. What I have, what you have, even what Obama has is a copy. The raised seal of the state indicates that it is a valid copy and sutable for use to get a passport or whatever one would need.

http://factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-usa/

Also, the state confirmed that they have the orginal.

http://factcheck.org/2009/07/the-last-word-we-wish/

For what it;s worth, I went to college with Joe Miller who was at factcheck at the time. He is a pretty committed Libertarian. Anyone who dobuts the validity of this thing is simply a nutcase.

Period.

Final proof of Barack Obama’s birth place. That’s right. He was born in Timbuktu.
http://www.sajepress.com/2011/03/final-proof-of-barack-obamas-birth.html

Apparently, there’s also something on his college transcrips he doesn’t like. No one has seen those, either.

Cobra said:
No, it’s about race and xenophobia. The Republicans have been trying since day one to claim Barack Obama is “not a real American”, “not one of us”, “foreign”. That’s what the wing-nut birther base believes in.

race and xenophobia… Cobra, you and I are seeing this completely different. If Goldberg is seeing this as about race and xenophobia, its because she WANTS to see it that way, because its an easier argument to defend, the race card.

Cobra said:
You think ANY piece of paper is going to satisfy these deranged Obama haters?

I think you are spending a lot of time defending Obama on this issue.
There will always be the “deranged Obama haters” you speak of. But there is a larger portion of people who would indeed want to see the long form of Obama’s birth certificate. If Obama has access to it, he should make it available.

Or, we could consider Xenophanes’ take on this:

xenophanes said:
The reason President Obama doesn’t release his birth certificate is very simple. It is a devisive political issue that continues to pay off in so many ways. Consider the animosity and disagreement between the preceding commenters. Releasing the birth certificate would be trivial. Most of us have it in a drawer or somewhere safe, and have to produce it once in a while. But as long as the question remains, people will take the bait and overreach – ie. they will move beyond demanding for the release, and start making assertions they cannot prove. This allows Obamas allies, proxies and surrogates to label those people “birthers”, “racists” and “teabaggers”. And because the idea that the President of the United States of America may not be a citizen is so inconceivable, most are sympathetic to the President, and many worthwhile issues raised by staunch conservatives are ingored as being the rantings of “birthers” or “baggers”. No it makes no sense politically for Obama to give up this valuable issue.

The goal seems to be to move away and not answer the real question, but to couch the question in such a way so that the truth is subverted.

Cobra said:
According to WHOM? What you’ve been Taught by all those “unionized librul” teachers?

When you show me the birther movements against ANY of the past White Presidents, as opposed to the first BLACK one….your question might have some clout.

Nonsense. This birther NONSENSE is just one of the many whack-job conspiracies about President Obama such as…
Obama’s the “12th Imam”…
http://dyn.politico.com/members/forums/thread.cfm?catid=2&subcatid=7&threadid=5113224
Obama’s the “Antichrist”…
http://www.newsweek.com/2008/11/15/is-obama-the-antichrist.html
Obama’s Campaign was funded by Hugo Chavez…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/03/11-most-paranoid-obama-co_n_343771.html?slidenumber=%2BL%2BXMh7oz2c%3D&slideshow#slide_image
And my favorite, from the same link….part of Obama’s Nomination Night speech, when played backwards, says..”Serve Satan!”

This Birther stuff is so 2008, Alz. You need to get with the devil/prophecy stuff like all the COOL kids are doing today.

–Cobra

You still don’t get it. Obama could have squelched this YEARS ago by providing it. The doubters would be on to something else.

Here’s the other side effect: Obama is doing such a poor job that people who didn’t think about this birth certificate issue are now starting to wonder.

For me, i think he was born here, but there is something embarrassing about the contents of the Birth Certificate. Whatever the issue is, he should release it.

This stuff doesn’t help: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348916/Hawaii-governor-says-Obamas-birth-record-exists-produce-it.html
“Hawaii governor claims record of Obama’s birth ‘exists in archives’ but can’t produce the vital document”

Try to think about it. The issue is Obama’s problem, not some people who question it.

catfishjuggling said:
Yes it was notarized. You are right. What I have, what you have, even what Obama has is a copy. The raised seal of the state indicates that it is a valid copy and sutable for use to get a passport or whatever one would need.

http://factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-usa/

Also, the state confirmed that they have the orginal.

http://factcheck.org/2009/07/the-last-word-we-wish/

For what it;s worth, I went to college with Joe Miller who was at factcheck at the time. He is a pretty committed Libertarian. Anyone who dobuts the validity of this thing is simply a nutcase.

Period.

What about this? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348916/Hawaii-governor-says-Obamas-birth-record-exists-produce-it.html

Ask Joe Miller.

How did someone so fucking stupid get so rich? Oh, I forgot his daddy gave it to him. Can you imagine where Barak Obama would be if his father had been as wealthy as Trump’s? He could be the Persident, Oh wait….he is the President, so tuck you Frump.

I’m not a birther, in that I believe Barack Hussein Obama jr was almost certainly born in Hawaii.

However, I have heard a theory that I find plausible: that Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetoro and his name was legally changed to Barry Soetoro… and never changed back.

At some point, possibly at Occidental College, possibly at Columbia, Barack/Barry decided he preferred his birth name and used that name from then on. But his name was never legally changed back to Obama.

Then, when he applied for a license to practice law in Illinois, and had to answer the question whether he had ever been known by another name… he lied.

Perhaps the high school and college transcripts would reveal the problem, which is why they remain hidden. And the original birth certificate was altered, legally, so that is why no document for Barack Obama jr exists.

At some point the truth will come out. Mr Obama hopes it will not be until he is safely ensconced in his second term in the White House.

I am not saying this scenario is the absolute truth. But it does explain a number of questions which cannot be answered otherwise.

Additionally, I hope that other potential presidential candidates stay far away from this issue.

But as I don’t consider Donald Trump to be a genuine or viable candidate, I don’t mind at all if he wants to pursue the birth certificate issue. It is not such a crazy thing to believe in, compared to what certain present or past panelists on “The View” believed about the attacks on the World Trade Center.

Cobra said:
When you show me the birther movements against ANY of the past White Presidents, as opposed to the first BLACK one….your question might have some clout.

This is what Whoopie was saying. She is an idiot, please dont you be one too.

I’m not going to pretend to know the history of all our presidents and it doesn’t matter. For starters, It’s “because he’s black” is the dumbest crap so lets get that out of the way. It should be universaly known that when one starts with that argument, that they just lost the argument. There is alot at stake here and no one wants their time wasted, so can we please exclude the obviously dumb shit?

I am going to go out on a limb here and say we never had these circumstances before. BO spent some of his childhood in a muslim country and apparently some time practicing islam. Maybe you and Whoopie missed it but we are at war with a faction of islam. Now how small or large that faction is is irrelevant, all that matters is that its real, it’s brutal, it’s stealthy and we’re at war with it.

Also, it is this enemies goal to fly the flag of islam over our White house and to dominate our country, with lying, deciet and stealthyness as it’s ways and means. Understanding this, BO should feel OBLIGATED to show his birth certificate. The elitist pompous attitude that he’s above it all or doesn’t need to is selfish and selfserving, inconsiderate and thoughtless.

And who’s to defend him? The same scum that accused Bush of taking down the WTC? That hardcore segment of our left are a bunch of scumbags and are pretty much equal to the enemy in my book because no one could just be that stupid. So dont be one of them Cobra. Use your head and try looking at it this way. It shouldn’t be that hard to see.

Show the certificate, shut everyone up and be done with it. If he cant put Americans who are concerned first by doing this, then what the hell kind of leader is he and why should he be our’s? The left is carrying the attitude that anyone who runs against him and makes an issue of this is looking for trouble and beggin to lose. I say thats nonsense. When looking at it this way, I think it’s only a problem for Barry and I hope it doesn’t go away.

Obama’s birth certificate…Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

He says he has seen so much scandle and fraud that so many people have never seen.
Doesn’t he mean he has performed it himself. Get real Sarah Palin the second.

Whoopie thinks that’s the biggest pile of dog-mess she’s heard in years? Didn’t she say almost exactly the same thing a few months ago? I wonder if she realizes just how stupid she appears when she rants about subjects that she knows nothing about? Would she have made that statement if McCain had become president? I think we all know the answer to that one.

There’s something about Trump’s hairline that he doesn’t want us to see!!

Three words why Trump will not run for prez:

FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE FORM

Great one, @Bill Huggins.

Because Obamas nationality is as real as Trump hair.

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Steve_27 said:
Show the certificate, shut everyone up and be done with it.

LOL…Steve…that WON’T “shut people up.”
You still don’t get this. It doesn’t MATTER if Obama shows a hermetically sealed, carbon dated orginal long form document scanned by an electron microscope.
That’s why the only way to win the game is not to play.

–Cobra

Certification of Live Birth. This only certifies that a birth certificate is in the vault in Honolulu’s Dept. of Health.

Understand that between 1911 to 1972, anyone 1 year older or older could apply for a late birth certificate. I know, the certification says live birth certificate. That only means that the child was born alive.
Ask yourself a question. Why not just release the vault copy? Why spend over a million dollars of your personal money to keep it suppressed?

As to the newspaper announcements, we know that they could have been called in. How do I know? 3 teams worked for 2 1/2 months from Kenya to Honolulu during the primaries of 2008 the result of which was then used in all 19 US District Court cases filed. My teams that produced much more evidence, 452 pages worth. I’ve only posted the simplest of questions herein.