There’s a ‘taint’ all right.  That much is true.

Like people trust New York on anything? really? reeeeeeaaallllly? talk about taint..as for big money, that’s the Americans people money they play with now right? stimulus money for ceo’s? I don’t think they have the clout they think they have anymore outside of  state and some”still” in Washington. As for policy in New york..how did that police chief under Giuliani do for ya? makes for an easy patsy and corrupt system huh..
 

25+ million people in Texas.  The New Yorker’s stereotyping of Texas is another mainstream media broken record.

A good analogy would be a group of rednecks in a small southern town talking about how somebody from Illinois would never win the White House again because of Barack Obama.

Is it just me or is this really an inapropriate choice of words?  Though I presume Texas “taint” may be a bit to gamey for most Americans with a memory.

This is like “Chicago thug politics” lol.

Taint is the wrong word to use with regard to Texans in Washington…fatigue might be better.

That would be the Texan that bailed their incompetent as**s out? 

Texan perineum can be a liability.

As a Texan, I can tell you that Tollbooth has far greater problems than his being from Texas. He is immensely unpopular in his own state now. The job creation/employment myth flew out the window. June jobs in Texas were disastrous. And, 1 September, thousands and thousands of teachers crowd the unemployment rolls in Texas. A couple of weeks prior to that, schools start, underfunded, without new texts and with soaring classroom sizes, all because of an ill-conceived property tax reform Tollbooth implemented four (4) years ago that has driven the state US $27 Billion into debt. I scarcely need to mention Fundamentalooza coming to the state soon. A group of deranged extreme Fundamentalist pastors who are likely setting up a defense fund for the Norwegian shootist as I write. Tollbooth is not going to get the nomination, he’s not even going to run. But, it’s not because he’s Texan. It’s because he’s a totally inept shill who has driven Texas into unparalleled economic straits in our history and a pandering extremist of the worst order.

Indeed. The taint is personal, the fatigue is general.

yet texans keep electing him, who knew

oh god the ignorance!

25+million still adds up to only 32 electoral votes in a 538 electoral presidential race.

Taint that sumptin..

ok, that was funny.

that’s like saying fox has great ratings therefore it must be the best real news cable outlet

ugh…

And, oddly enough, only once with a majority vote. He’s never been much of a vote-getter.

so I take it “Tollbooth” is his nickname down there?  I’ve never heard that one before.

analogy- NOT

taint:   to contaminate morally 
           to touch or affect slightly with something bad 
         to affect with putrefaction : spoil

He’s right.  Rick Perry sounds and acts too much like GWB.  They both have that cowboy swagger etc….can’t see Perry winning.

Among many.

We’ve never been much of a tollroad state. A few here and there. Tollbooth came in, built several new ones, tried but failed to convert some existing highways to tollroads, turned over tollroad operations to a Spanish (not Spanish as Michelle-in-Utah uses it, for Mexican) company and the state pays a small fortune monthly to the Spanish company because revenues are far, far less than projected. I plan to start a movement as soon as he leaves to name a tollbooth for him.

Best. Headline. Ever.

I think pointing out that there are 25+ million people in Texas is meant to show the absurdity of trying to link two people together because they are both from an large populous area bounded by imaginary lines.

i would check that fact if i was you…..2002 57%……2010….55%

Texas Taint = Bush Stench.

The Republicans just don’t have a winner in 2012.  I don’t see it.  

Their most electable people (Romney, Huntsman) either do not excite the GOP base…or turn them off altogether.  In my opinion, the others are either too dull, too conservative, or too polarizing to win.

There only three who have the charisma to even get close to matching Obama:  Bachmann, Perry, and Cain.

-Cain is a little too far right…and lacks experience in elected office.  (Not a problem, per se….but he’s untested under heavy scrutiny and will not hold up under an intense national campaign).

-Bachmann has a history of controversial statements/positions that put her to the right of most Americans.   And, while she seems smart, she doesn’t seem to be super knowledgeable on the big issues (yet). 

-Perry is a Texan, and I agree that “Texas fatigue” will hurt him….and I don’t think his brand of religious/social conservatism will play well outside of the South.  And then there’s the whole secession thing…

Anybody wish to have an *reasonable* debate about this??   

I think each of these candidates are fairly reasonable people and I’m not going to call them names.  I’m just listing why I think they can’t win.
  

so its like saying texans are just stupid because they keep electing him

You can stay in texas and still find a great candidate much more credible with lifestyle, values, history as a veteran and patriot, doctor, someone who actually helped bring 4000 more voters to the list and world, through his voting history you “know” the man and what is not to like of his ideals: How could you not want to push a candidate that believes in less Government in our lives, flat tax, ending the FED and ending the IRS as well as war on drugs that has been a total fail and just another cashcow for Government? Seriously, political owned media can not continue to ignore him, the polls show differently.
He is a serious candidate.

Ron Paul – Your candidate for 2012

I agree that Ron Paul has more appeal than he’s given credit for.

But social conservatives won’t go for him….when they find out he’s okay with abortion and gay marriage, they’ll balk.

Also, while I think there are many things that I like about Libertarianism, I think most Americans (myself included) will find that it’s not a totally realistic governing philosophy in a country this size.   Ron Paul is a little bit too purist about it.

Personally, I think Gary Johnson is a more practical choice for Libertarian-minded folks…because he’s actually won a statewide executive office and knows how to govern.

I think Gary Johnson has been more screwed by the media than Ron Paul has, personally.

“It’s because he’s a totally inept shill who has driven Texas into unparalleled economic straits in our history”

BUT, half of all jobs created since Obama took office were created in Texas. If that is considered dire economic straits, then I guess the rest of the country is well and truly screwed. And here we thought Texas was the only saving grace of our countries economy…

“It’s because he’s a totally inept shill who has driven Texas into unparalleled economic straits in our history”

BUT, half of all jobs created since Obama took office were created in Texas. If that is considered dire economic straits, then I guess the rest of the country is well and truly screwed. And here we thought Texas was the only saving grace of our countries economy…

Satan’s Anus agrees. Being located so closely to Satan’s Taint, Satan’s Anus would definitely have a credible opinion on the matter.

But really, Satan’s Anus’ opinion is the furthest from opinion as an opinion can be – Satan’s Anus’ opinion has as much objectivity as a fact does. 

With that said, GW Bush’s signature is written all over Texas’ Taint – and America’s Taint as well.

Satan’s Anus agrees. Being located so closely to Satan’s Taint, Satan’s Anus would definitely have a credible opinion on the matter.

But really, Satan’s Anus’ opinion is the furthest from opinion as an opinion can be – Satan’s Anus’ opinion has as much objectivity as a fact does. 

With that said, GW Bush’s signature is written all over Texas’ Taint – and America’s Taint as well.

taint : the region on the male body in between the anus and scrotum; mostly known for its production of ‘duck butter’.

Satan’s Anus has spoken.

Oh my….would that have been done by using Obama’s stimulus funds that Perry refused? OOOOhhh…yes, Satan’s Anus thinks so: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/17/stimulus-texas-senate-def_n_188130.html

Satan’s Anus believes you can thank the Texas senate and MASSIVE government spending for those jobs created in Texas.

Choose your talking points wisely – some of them might get mixed up and reveal your foolish partisanship. But really it’s OK – because Satan’s Anus is very forgiving – and patient.

“But social conservatives won’t go for him….when they find out he’s okay with abortion and gay marriage, they’ll balk.” 

There is a difference between “being okay” with something and saying that the federal government has no right to legislate it.  It’s the difference between liberalism and libertarianism in this case.  In fact Ron Paul’s views would allow states to legislate abortion rights…. something social conservatives would love because it would actually allow for the banning of abortions.

I am just amazed at how Ron Paul’s views are so constantly and intentionally misrepresented.

Satan’s Anus thanks you for your heightened used of the English language – even Satan’s Anus can learn some things.

Satan’s Anus further congratulates you for identifying the correct portion of the human anatomy in which most of the right wing’s political influence originates.

Fact: This nut job stated people on wall street won’t back Perry well hate to break it to you Bush had to terms with the same people not backing his play neither.

Fact: Perry can give Obama a two state lead ( CAL and NY) and still win.

Fact: Perry has blown out all democrats that he has faced. He didn’t have to try either!

Fact: Your on drugs people of Texas love Perry and would hate to lose him but would also like the crap in washington straightened out! Austin is only small area with liberals go anywhere else and your kind are a small minority.

Fact: Cowboys rule even in football!

Fact: Cowboys rule even in football!

But if somebody is not actively opposing those things, then that person is, in effect, allowing them to go forward.

I’m not trying to misrepresent his view.  I don’t think he’s “pro” either of those things….but I think that if he’s willing to say that the government shouldn’t legislate it, then the net result is that those things are legal. 

States could not ban abortion unless/until Roe v Wade is overturned.  Otherwise, doing so is unconstitutional.

“OOOH! Is that a fact?!” — Varsity Blues (1999)

Your “facts” reflect strictly opinion. ONLY Satan’s Anus is afforded such literary flexibility. Satan’s Anus hereby forbids you to use the word “fact” in any attempt to clarify your posts. If you do not cease such grammatically inappropriate behavior, Satan’s Anus will be extremely upset. Although, fortunately for you – Satan’s Anus’ principals mirror those of the same christ that died for your sins. Hence – Satan’s Anus will be quick to forgive. Satan’s Anus values the virtue of patience – unlike many of the heathen who spout excrement on these message boards. 

I would argue that most social conservatives would say that the government SHOULD pass laws about abortion and gay marriage.

Ron Paul argues that the government should stay out of it.

FACT: You have ZERO knowledge of the NFL. You may think Tony Romo is very attractive, but he is not a proven winner – he has proven the opposite. Satan’s Anus pokes your face with an excrement covered stick and you call out for more? Insane I tell you – absolute insanity.

And the Wall Street nut jobs also can’t comprehend that the Bush camp and Perry camp hate each other.  You might as well be comparing Toby Keith and Robert Earl Keen when you look at Bush and Perry.

Considering the title, I had to somehow use perineum in a reply. As for me,
I have yet to figure out Gov. Perry. He is enigmatic. Personally, I prefer
Kate Perry myself.

On the contrary, a country this large should appreciate his stand on state law.
We are already paying the same taxes to state if not more as we are to federal.

Removing more regulation from Federal and putting it to the state level allows the Government to do as it was designed to do, Protect the Constitution and protect our borders and commerce. while protecting an individuals rights outlined in the constitution over all states and state constitutions. That’s all it ever was designed for. I don’t see this as a negative for any conservative or liberal. You can change the state you live in much easier than the country. I don’t see how political thoughts and regulations in say California should have any alliance to say New York. Leave it at state level as long as the rules do not invade the Constitution and your rights as an individual. Paul believes in freedom of choice more than any politician I know and gets my vote for that alone.

Considering the title of the article, this story must have special meaning to you.
This is your lucky day, Satan’s “fundament”.
You are attached to this story like no one else here.
Godspeed!

Lucifer, this is your night to truly shine!

If Perry runs the entire country will be exposed to his taint. Please God, show mercy on America.

Satan’s Anus could not agree with you more. Like Satan’s Anus declared previously, Satan’s Anus credibility on this matter is equaled by no one else simply based upon Satan’s Anus’ location in relation to Satan’s Taint. It is the best perspective one could have in determining the likes of Satan’s Anus and Satan’s Taint.

Satan’s Anus has spoken.

God has no mercy – Bush’s presence proved that. Although, Satan’s Anus is very merciful.

God has no mercy – Bush’s presence proved that. Although, Satan’s Anus is very merciful.

I’m from Austin, and I thought Bush had loused it up for Texan politicians for at least a decade.  As for Perry, there is much less there than meets the eye.

You’re pretty dense huh?

And you learned grammar where?

 Yea poor gary I actually kind of like the guy. But he want to legalize drugs and the conservatives wont go for that. I still think Romney is the candidate for the republicans and although I hope it doesn’t happen he can beat Obama if the economy is still in the crapper or a major terror attack hits us. I haven’t quite figured out how he gets the evangelical vote but thats another discussion lol

It’s been a very long time since you followed the Cowboys, hasn’t it?

That is very true. And, Tollbooth could use the remnants of Team Poppy and Team W.

What the heck is a Texas Taint? Who writing these headlines Anthony Weener’s weener?

At least Perry got the endorsement of the Texas A& M Cheerleading Alumni.

 And Perry has to know someone like the National Enquirer is going to do some serious digging into his past personal life.

They are very close. Neighbors in fact.

I find this interesting. Many social conservatives are upset at Perry this weekend over this stance:
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/07/24/perry-gay-marriage-in-new-york-is-%E2%80%98fine-with-me%E2%80%99/
Rick Perry made many enemies in Texas regarding his stance on Gardisil and the Trans Texas corridor.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6196406.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/06/04/rick_perrys_gardasil_problem_110089.html
Rick Perry is an enigma to me. He is all over the place. Hard to figure this dude out. He swings many ways.

I’m praying for Perry’s taint.

very good web—-wwwjordanforworldcom

You are a taint for posting this.

Well, for a single state now competing against the other 49 states combined in terms of job creation, who cares about the support or opinion of “many New Yorkers on Wall Street”

you know I tried about ten times to rewrite something saying why would that matter? I kept looking at Original Post about reasonable debate.. all the time overlooking what is being debated? Seriously guys. You do know none of these issues are under the job title of President right? He doen’t do no more than pay some bills, command our Armies to protect our borders and enforce the rights of the “constitution” on those opposed and enforce rulings of the Supreme Court who only hear cases about the constitution. He meets with dignitaries from other countries and tries to have a balance trade with them. His views on any of the above really have no bearing on his performance in office. It don’t matter if he is jewish, christian, atheist, gay activist, abortion for or against or can bounce a ball on his head. The most bearing on any of these issues is he can appoint a Supreme Court Judge, but thats only his suggestion, the senate votes on it. So how is this a reasonable debate about a candidate when it does not cover issues about the federal government he would be over?

The issues should be what does he think on taxes and our currency, foreign policy and tariffs and wars  Does he want to expand or collapse government and cost. Invade into our privacy or get out of our affairs. Those are his jobs.

Perception is very often reality in politics. In reality, Perry is actually a true fiscal conservative. Bush was a big government conservative who spent money like crazy. Perry is a true native Texan coming from very humble beginnings. Bush is a wasp from Connecticut coming from one of the country’s most powerful, wealthiest political dynasties. The list of differences go on and on. But, stand one beside the other; they look and talk unbelievably alike. Given that the majority of Americans continue to blame Bush for the recession, I would contend that Gasparino of Fox Business News is spot on. Perry has a major image problem. 

It will take some time fir the nation to forget about the last good ol’ boy doofus from Texas before they would consider another one, like about 100 years. LOL

No more Texas!!

Yeah, when I head Perry say he heard “a calling” to run for president, that gave me a shudder.  Then the story about the ambitious wife pushing him to run.

On another note, it’s a good idea to keep changing up who and where we get our presidents.  We’ve had 8 years of a Texan president and several Ivy League guys in a row.  Better for the Republic if we try something new.

Everyone knows Charlie Gasparino is an idiot. A state has nothing to do with it, ya moron. It can be a Bush ‘taint’ as nobody is ready for another Bush in the WH. But, Perry and Bush are two different people and in fact, they are not fans of each other. So Charlie, go back to hacking the phones of New Yorkers. Seems that is how and where you get your ‘tainted’ info from anyway! Sheeeeeeeeeeshhh, a FOX News traitor on socialist commie ABC. That should tell anyone whose side you are on, Charlie. Are you gonna do the Joe Blowhard and Mika Airhead show in the morning??? How about the Chrissy ‘Tingles & Thrills’ Matthews ‘Softball’ show??? Maybe you two dunderheads will cancel each out of TV…that would be 10*’s for the rest of us!!!

Much less, indeed. I can understand how Yankee Tea Partiers and the Cracker State Tea Partiers might fight him an interesting character, but then even that is just a character. It’s not the real Perry. And, his politics is merely a Hodgepodge of Pandering of different interest groups.

People who don’t know Texas politics don’t grasp that we don’t elect governors because they are intelligent, honest, effective, we elect governors to amuse us with their crooked deals, their zany missteps, the liklihood they’ll wet themselves when asked a question or pick their noses in public when they’re thinking.. Historically, the Texas governorship is notoriously weak. Amusement is about all we’re likely to get from them.

My favorite two (2) Texas governors:

Ma Ferguson when asked about bi-lingual education (yes, we’ve been on that subject for almost a decade), replied: “If Jesus christ wrote the Bible in English, it’s good enough for textbooks for our children.”

Preston Smith was interrupted at Texas Southern University with chants in support of a local jailed activist. “Free Lee Otis! Free Lee Otis!” He asked why the crowd was shouting about beans (frijoles).

And, they were Democrats. Since each governor we elect is worse than his or her predecessor, W and Tollbooth can’t be a surprise.

2006: 39.03% (with two independents).

FACT: Tollbooth’s approval rating in Texas is 37%.

FACT: In a match-up between President Obama and Tollbooth in Texas, our President wins 47%-45%.

FACT: You’re not telling the truth.

FACT: Tollbooth’s approval rating in Texas is 37%.

FACT: In a match-up between President Obama and Tollbooth in Texas, our President wins 47%-45%.

FACT: You’re not telling the truth.

That’s another reason not to vote for him. Fatigue from cheerleader presidents. W ruined it for all ex-cheerleaders.

Which will have strong Larry Craig themes running through it.

If the Cowboys didn’t have such an ego-manical owner from Hillbilly Arkansas by the name of Jerry Jones, the Cowboys would have another 5+ Super Bowl trophy’s! And like in the NBA the San Antonio SPURS won 4 NBA Championships from 1999 to 2007 and the Houston Rockets won back to back a couple years before the SPURS won their first one. But, it took forever for the billionaire idiot Markie Cuban’s team the Dallas Mavericks to finally win one trophy. Seems the SA Spurs have taken the Mavs to the cleaners for the last 10-12 years.

After reading a few of the wackie dummycrap’s posts I hope Rick Perry runs and wins just to piss you left-wing radical, socialist commies off. Anything to get rid of the retard presently in office. Enough of this Chicago Mob politiocs. America is going down hill faster than the speed of light racing over liquid butter. Time for a change for sure

And 250 to 300 years to forget about the socialist do nothing Prez presently in the WH. That twerp is driving America into the ground.

The person who beats Barack Obama is going to need as much ego as Barack Obama. He doesn’t need swagger, but he has to know who he is and what he believes.

Rick Perry may or may not be a fine governor. But this is an election cycle when we actually need someone who has been in Washington and knows where all the problems are.

I recommend a former governor and former US senator, who was a chairman of the Senate Budget Committee… someone with a fine mind, excellent conservative credentials and a pleasant if low-key personality.

I recommend that we draft Judd Gregg to be the nominee of the Republican Party.

if Obama is doing nothing, then what is the problem? Teaabaggers make no sense

He is just a classic redneck fundamentalist bagger who babbles about his state seceding from the Union, But since he will blow any industrialist for breaks, damn the environment, consumers or labor, that makes his jobs look good. Outside of the talk radio moron conservative base, or the jerks who think Palin is cool, no body with any brains is going to vote for him. He is just an even stupider and more contemptible version of Bush.

Sounds like NeverWrong, is the type of feeble mind that Perry can count on.

I pray that either your low  intellectual level or sanity issues disqualifies you from voting. You talk like a paranoid redneck, which makes you a Perry natural

While we’re at it, the 18-25 crowd that voted overwhelmingly for Obama should be disqualified just because they all thought he “looked cool.” They also showed appallingly “low intellectual levels and sanity issues” if we’re going by your feeble, ephemeral standards.

Rick Perry is a wildcard. Hard to say how well he will do. It will be interesting if Rick runs. Perry has a better chance than Sarah Palin of winning.

BTW Katy Perry 2012!
(what ever happened to Luke Perry?)

A wise man once said, “it’s the economy, stupid.”

Regardless about Perry’s role in Texas’ prosperous economy, there is no doubt that he will play that into his election campaign and make that his crowning achievement. Pure and simple. It could even be enough to outlast Mitt at his supposedly *only* strength which is the economy.

As long as unemployment “unexpectedly” continues to flounder in double-digits, people won’t care one wit about this alleged “Texas fatigue” but what’s in it for them.

That’s fine and I respect your opinion. Remember the generic Republican continues to lead in polling against Obama and has done so for a few months, so their chance may be better than what you’re thinking is the case. It’s a good thing we’re being very selective. Go to the primaries and vote, and this should all sort itself out.

You may disdain the 18 to 25 year crowd that voted for Obama (I am 40 BTW), but America is based on a one person one vote system. The vote of an 18 year old is weighed the same as a 65 year old. Unless you plan on disenfranchising people under 30, Nathan better figure out how to win hearts and minds.

Are you against universal suffrage?
Just askin’

Nathan Obral,
What is your position on The Voting Rights Act of 1965?
I am very curious. I would love an answer.

Fact: That sux he can be Obama though!

Fact: Look Hack if it wasn’t for Perry of Texas Obama could not act like he created some jobs. I thought Perry would be a Hero in the democrats world.

Fact: Texas is hot now just like Perry!

Fact: Take time fir? You’re not fooling anybody you post like Perry speaks.

Fact: What never herd of Teaabaggers but teabaggers and or the insertion of one man’s sack into another person’s mouth. Used a practical joke or prank, when performed on someone who is asleep, or as a sexual act is a democrats act.So I think you are close now both Obama and the democrats in both house and senate make no sense. That was your best post on Mediaite.

And Santa Clause will bring you a pony.

Do they change parties when they are 25?

A bit of very recent history:

The TEA party formed.

Well, members insist that it isn’t all that organized, and that is a good thing in their opinion.

At the first rallies, a few folks insisted on dressing up in colonial era costumes, but even more enthusiasts wore tea bags on the brims of hats. That is the origin of the term teabagger for them, and they liked it. It
.
Then, somebody pointed out the homosexual connection, and all of a sudden, they didn’t like it. The joke was on them for liking the term in the first place.

Excellent research! Thanks!
Until now, my view of Perry was one-sided. All I saw was the social-conservative side of him, and I didn’t like it.
That Trans-Texas Corridor looks just like the stuff Obama is pushing for, and the fact that he expected federal dollars to contribute to it shows a “big government” tendency, too.
It is great that he lets New York be New York, as liberal as it is.
My estimation of him has vastly improved! (But not enough for me to campaign for him.)

You make a good case for Perry, which I probably would have ignored before I saw the links that Nature Freak posted.
I must say that Romney’s business experience is not that impressive to those who look hard at it, and since that is his only serious claim in the race,

Good comments.

I think the Republican party has two problems with the Generic Republican.
The first is that there is no such person running right now. I hope I’m safe in saying that to the General Public, Romney looks like the Generic Republican, but he is not fooling the all important conservative base that does vote in the primaries. He, IMO, has two problems. One is ORomney Care, and the other is his business card is not all that impressive when examined closely. One can simply state that the result of his business activities has been fewer jobs in the companies he dealt with, and some of those companies ultimately failed. He did get richer personally , but is that enough for the Republican and Independent voters?

The second problem for the Generic Republican is that the others are far less “generic” than Romney, who I repeat myself by saying to too generic. Maybe Huntsman will recover his early disaster and replace Romney.

Good comments.

I think the Republican party has two problems with the Generic Republican.
The first is that there is no such person running right now. I hope I’m safe in saying that to the General Public, Romney looks like the Generic Republican, but he is not fooling the all important conservative base that does vote in the primaries. He, IMO, has two problems. One is ORomney Care, and the other is his business card is not all that impressive when examined closely. One can simply state that the result of his business activities has been fewer jobs in the companies he dealt with, and some of those companies ultimately failed. He did get richer personally , but is that enough for the Republican and Independent voters?

The second problem for the Generic Republican is that the others are far less “generic” than Romney, who I repeat myself by saying to too generic. Maybe Huntsman will recover his early disaster and replace Romney.

Personally, I prefer Governor Good-hair.

BS. There is nothing humble about Tollbooth’s beginnings. Upper Middle Class ranching family.

Otherwise, you’re on target.

BS. There is nothing humble about Tollbooth’s beginnings. Upper Middle Class ranching family.

Otherwise, you’re on target.

BS. There is nothing humble about Tollbooth’s beginnings. Upper Middle Class ranching family.

Otherwise, you’re on target.

The above comment got messed up. Technical glitch while writing. Please ignore it.

The “just another Texan” problem will be a very small bump to get over if Perry can get the message out that he knows how GOVERNMENT interacts with the economy.

Is it fair to say that business experience has almost nothing to do with government experience? I think so.
The purposes are different. The goals are different, and the methods are different. The methods are most critical, since a CEO can simply give orders, just like a general can in a military operation. A politician does not have that power.

Note that some of our most successful politicians are doctors, but you can be sure they ran on political issues, not medical issues. Meanwhile, they are just as capable of dealing with business/government issues as Romney would be.

I have a great deal of respect for Ron Paul, but I don’t think he can be elected outside of his own district. The voters there have the right combination of caring about small government and not caring about left or right issues. It is those left and right issues that “kill’ him at the national level.

Personally, I think his monetary policies are not practical. They may have been 100 years ago, but not any longer. Returning to a gold standard sounds great, but it would only work if every other major nation (the entire G20)  did the same. Otherwise, it would be like fighting WW III with WW I weapons.

Who?
Big name recognition problem.

If you are truly merciful then spare us from the terrible attempt at humor you are inflicting on us.

It did seem like he had lead in his pencil.

Fact: Not true anywhere but maybe in new York or in California and they don’t speak for anyone but themselves.

fact: be = beat.

Fact: This nut job stated people on wall street won’t back Perry.  Well I hate to break it to you but Bush had two terms with the same people not backing his play either. Thanx lib.

Fact: This nut job stated people on wall street won’t back Perry.  Well I hate to break it to you but Bush had two terms with the same people not backing his play either. Thanx lib.

Fact: I was out chasing democratic women with my tiger suit and I had a brain fart! Sorry major in Math not English.

Fact: Romney or Huntsman are both democrats aka RINO’s as far as the conservatives are concerned and we gave in to your side and media last time and that is why McCain was the top of the GOP ticket. The new ticket this time will be better off so sorry we learned and it will not happen two times in a row or we have lost our minds!

Fact: They don’t get in trouble like they used too! Still keep them on TV all the time on any given weekend!

I think I kinda mentioned it above, then erased then rewrote. You know, I just don’t understand our country anymore. I have to blame Congress past and present for it. The reason there should be term limits enforced. The old ones must be bored and forget why they are there.  I understand these issues abortion and Gay marrage? are important to special groups. Don’t get me wrong, I personally believe live and let live. This was to debate about a President. If I am not mistaken the MAIN duties of a President Are to run our Armies, protect the borders and people with them. Make sure the funds coming into the Federal Government are used properly.Help figure the best way to collect and spend Taxes to advance our country in programs. Distribute funds through entitlements. Check borders and security and meet with world leaders to come up with a fair trade agreement thru tariffs.

Why on earth is our congress trying to pass bills that should remain at state level and go through the court system? Why are these (excuse me for not finding a  better word but) petty bills being brought up in congress? They will then amend a hundred more special interests to those bills and shout civil rights for the persecuted. And washington runs as usual, which got our budget where it’s at. I am not ignorant to the fact these are issues for special interest groups. But that is what they are, special interest not nationwide change or interest. I just do not see why they are bills thru congress. Every time they gain ground in Congress I know we have a failed congress in session that needs to go. These bills should always be turned back to state and let the Supreme Courts rule on them if they show prejudice of the Constitution. Congress should never pass them to reach a president. As for veto power, I don’t see one veto on any of these issues if you have a level headed President who believes in choice not agenda. it would be moot because that was the choice when it reaches him.

Why are these the main issues and always in the press? Politicly controlled media? ignoring the real problems we face? Why don’t people worry about how our tax base works? and why? Why do  people not worry our Money is just printed and losing value? no reasoning behind the money system, whats the value it backs? Why do we pay interest to the printers? Why are people not worried about the invasion of our privacy as individuals? regulating us into videoed slave zombies groped at airports and stopped for walking down a street just to stop and question? Why are we not worried about trade balance and getting more jobs back in this country if not with new business then tariffs to equal the field to create new business again. It seems the main issues are abortion and Gay Marrage? seriously, we as a nation have lost all sight. We have real problems that should be the issues of who you appoint in washington. That’s why I cannot except this as a reasonable debate. there is no reason when those are the issues pointed out. Those are state and court special interest problems, not a nations.

Yes, Wall street types who supported Obama desite the fact that was obvious to all but the Wall street types that Obama would be toxic to them. Yes, we should listen to these fools that can’t figure out what their self interest is and are self-delusional enough thinking they can buy marxists politicians. No MItt “Obamalite” Romney for republicans, spare us. 

…”half of all jobs created since Obama took office were created in Texas.”

Not so much…

Personally, I think his monetary policies are not practical. They may have been 100 years ago, but not any longer. Returning to a gold standard sounds great, but it would only work if every other major nation (the entire G20) did the same. Otherwise, it would be like fighting WW III with WW I weapons.

In what respect do you believe the FED printing money and being one of our largest Debt holders seems fair for printing charges? What more than ink do they invest? This is what you believe our taxes should go to?

The Obama zombie-isms about Rick Perry are getting a little stale:

http://www.rickperryme.com/obama-zombie-isms/

Fact: “Our President” wins only by a poll’s margin of error — and Rick Perry isn’t even a candidate for national office yet!

I agree they are RINOs by the tea party definition, but only the RINOs have a chance to win at the national level.
By national level I mean the presidency, of course. Representatives and Senators work at the national level, but they are elected locally. If Ron Paul lived in a different Texas district, he might never have gotten into office.

You don’t get it.

Wall Strreet is already predicting the next big bubble, CARBON TRADING, duh! Goldman Sucks has already relocated their head carbon trader from London to NYC. Wall Street NEEDS big government to succeed. Without big government Wall Street doesn’t make any money. Wall Street is addicted to the multimillion dollar bonuses. Now that mortgaged back securities are a bust they need something else to fuel that addiction. It is carbon trading. Wall Street believes they are in a win/win situation with either Øbama or Mittwit Romney. Carbon trading corruption is sitting on go.

How does it feel to be a useful idiot sheeple and vote against your own best interest?

By the way, I despise Perry but at least I know the Øppressives are in bed with Wall Street. Read Charlie Gasparino’s “Bought and Paid For.” The Oppressives on Wall Street paid for Dumb-Ø big time. They are PO’d that he didn’t deliver on carbon trading so they are backing Mittwit to threaten him.

Democrat sheeple are idiots!

After being wrong about the majority votes above, you’d have better credibility if you posted some links along with your asserted “facts.”

Unemployment is hitting the younger generation very hard, and they are not nearly so enthusiastic about Obama as in 2008. Urban unemployment, black unemployment, and especially black teenage unemployment are especially bad — and I do not see how Obama can keep blaming others for the consequences of his own bad policies.

The only thing Rick Perry is tainted by is having the best job creation record in America. We have the most pro-business policies in the country. Businesses are fleeing to Texas in droves. If you want to start a business Texas is where you go. Most of the people on Wall Street are greedy idiots. They nearly blew up the world economy. They also continue to donate to Obama, a man who derides them as “fat cats” and wants to tax them out of business. So who really gives a damn what they think?

Tim Pawlenty is pretty generic — not my candidate but you said there wasn’t one and he is so generic that no one can get excited about his candidacy.  Romney’s not my candidate either, but he’s pretty generic. His problem is, he will say whatever he thinks will help him get elected.

I don’t think the field is set, nor will it be even if Rick Perry gets in.

It doesn’t matter whether Judd Gregg is well-known now. Maybe better that he not be, so he stays under the radar. He is not a candidate, in fact he has said he does not want to run because it would screw up the New Hampshire Primary. But he would still make the best president.

4fax,
In the very early days of the tea party, that is what was on the news, in the videos and the pictures. It is unfortunate that the real crazies (costumes and tea bags) get all the attention, but that is still how the whole teabagger thing came about.

I hope you don’t think some liberal just made it up to make fun of tea party people.

First impressions stick, and those were the first impressions put out by the media, including pics from Fox News. It is also the source of most of the racist accusations, IMO. A few signs and t-shirts of very racist groups got a lot of attention.
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Money has three purposes: as a medium of exchange, as a store of value, and as a unit of accounting.

The dollar is failing as a store of value. People all around the world still want it — they would rather have a stack of $100 bills than just about anything else. But the supply of dollars in the world right now is probably greater than the demand; so that explains the reason for increased demand for commodities, for precious metals, for farmland, and for anything expects to hold its value or increase in value.

Money has three purposes: as a medium of exchange, as a store of value, and as a unit of accounting.

The dollar is failing as a store of value. People all around the world still want it — they would rather have a stack of $100 bills than just about anything else. But the supply of dollars in the world right now is probably greater than the demand; so that explains the reason for increased demand for commodities, for precious metals, for farmland, and for anything expects to hold its value or increase in value.

Money has three purposes: as a medium of exchange, as a store of value, and as a unit of accounting.

The dollar is failing as a store of value. People all around the world still want it — they would rather have a stack of $100 bills than just about anything else. But the supply of dollars in the world right now is probably greater than the demand; so that explains the reason for increased demand for commodities, for precious metals, for farmland, and for anything expects to hold its value or increase in value.

A RINO cannot win at the national level because too many Republicans will either stay home on Election Day or vote for a third-party candidate.

IMAGINE IF CHINA DEMANDED ALL PAYMENTS FROM US IN GOLD!

Pardon the CAPS, but it is important.

That alone should make you think twice about the idea of a gold standard for us, but not for them and Japan and every other nation in the world. By the way, where does the gold come from? Right now, China is mining more gold than the US is. That is unimportant because we don’t have a gold standard, and neither do they.

Or, we could go to an Oil Standard. An Iron Standard? A diamond standard?

I know you are uncomfortable without having something tangible tied to the paper and plastic to wrap your mind around, but that is life. To be more comfortable, do a little studying on how various money systems developed, and I don’t mean reading the recent stuff with obvious political agendas.

<blockquote The general premise
of economic thought for mercantilism was based on the commonly accepted notion
that establishing and maintaining a trade surplus or favorable trade balance
was of supreme national importance, especially for the purpose of maintaining a
national defense and self-sufficiency. However, since all transactions during
trade were conducted using gold and silver, many countries actually experienced
a shortage of precious metals, which, of course, was in contradiction to this
ideal. Interestingly enough, some countries, such as Spain, felt so serious
about capturing a surplus of money and adopting bullionist policy that they
eventually imposed a death penalty for gold exportation.

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on 25-July-2011, 8 : 26 AM from http://www.economictheories.org/2008/06/rise-of-mercantilism-commercial.html /blockquote

Agreed, now take away medium of exchange as our dollar value drops you turn to commodity. Now keep printing money with the value only being ink and paper guaranteed by investors and taxes and you have useless money when unemployment climbs due to no investors which don’t invest due to the banks(fed) printing money with no bases to investments in this country. In turn unemployent goes sky high which brings in less taxes and it becomes a total fail if not backed by a common world wide commodity trading everyday at higher cost.

Oh god, the face palm at that Jesus quote! But, for some reason, I thought it was Bush II that had a quote like that…I think it was regarding an official language for the country and it was ‘If it was good enough for the bible…’

Perhaps I am incorrect and it was this other character? Though I admit I’ve never heard of them!

JustPlay: medium of exchange is huge. Very few realize how much we benefit by having oil and most other commodities priced in dollars. If we had to buy euros or yen or yuan first, before we could buy oil, the dollar would shrink much faster against those currencies and the price of oil in dollars would be much higher.

Inflating our way out of debt, because politicians are too cowardly to cut spending, is simply a horrible idea. Nothing would be worse.

IMAGINE IF CHINA DEMANDED ALL PAYMENTS FROM US IN GOLD!

We will go with your caps shouting although this was suppose to be a reasonable discussion and not a shouting match. explaining points and views for one or the other.

You missed the point.. our Government over taxing and regulating on your back while crying for more debt to be incurred.

To your question, Well, if as a nation that stuck with the gold standard we would just pay them. At present we would have to buy gold with our dropping dollar and then pay them. thats back to whos fault? If we demand payment in gold they would exchange their paper for gold and pay us or as you mentioned mine it. Quite a bit like oil is drilled but consumed. when all this breaks down wars start.. guess which direction a broke nation is heading if thats the case? As for them mining more gold than us? what’s the point there? Greed? You live within your means and save. while saving, our gold we bought at a less cost has gained value. I think china has more gold and printed currency at the present an is welcomed world wide. Obviously, their currency is gaining while ours is losing. Again back to the basics that got us here. I rather support a country that has commodity other than Taxes and Debt. The taxes off the backs of common men will eventually break and hit a peak especially without investment of Business inside our borders. Gold last forever. as do many other common commodities and makes for a nice security blanket on cold nites.

Fact; What color is the sky in your world? I live in Texas and nobody I know likes the guy..we all want him to try for the presidency so he will leave us alone.

yes i know is good,spree shopping: http://bit.ly/kgVfaL

I am a nerd who had never heard of teabagging, and I’m pretty sure most TEA party people are too.

Maybe I am confusing bland with generic. :-)

Apologies again for the CAPS. A rare loss of self control.
Basically, though, you have theory based complaints, but the gold standard is not the solution.
For one thing, you seem to think that it would somehow reduce taxes? How does that work?

Do you imagine that on the day after the change took place, the dollar in your pocket would still have the same value and we would adjust from there?

Or, if the dollar you have now is as worthless as you say, should I now assume that every dollar based investment and every dollar in a savings account would be worthless.

Maybe we would all be lucky to get ten cents on that dollar.

Apologies again for the CAPS. A rare loss of self control.
Basically, though, you have theory based complaints, but the gold standard is not the solution.
For one thing, you seem to think that it would somehow reduce taxes? How does that work?

Do you imagine that on the day after the change took place, the dollar in your pocket would still have the same value and we would adjust from there?

Or, if the dollar you have now is as worthless as you say, should I now assume that every dollar based investment and every dollar in a savings account would be worthless.

Maybe we would all be lucky to get ten cents on that dollar.

I’m sure a non-Texan was the other one. Somebody in the Senate, I think.

A always wondered about the very European names of the Apostles. Matthew? Thomas? Andrew?

I’m not aware of any position Tim Pawlenty has ever taken, that was even slightly controversial among Republicans. So he is boring and bland. I don’t have anything against him — I just think we can do better.

Had to move here due to comment limit..

Basically, though, you have theory based complaints, but the gold standard is not the solution. For one thing, you seem to think that it would somehow reduce taxes? How does that work?

It’s not a cure on taxes it a road to recovery in two ways.. first we remove the Debt and interest we PAY to the FED and use our Government as the printing press. Second, the Gold standard grow in time with value by world wide value of the commodity. Seems like a common sense reduction in our debts. But ofcourse, you have to vote for a common sense person to get it rolling.

The real problem for Perry with the media is that they HATE having to follow a President who goes places like Crawford (a “dry” county, with little for the “elite” media to do). The media loves Obama because he goes to Martha’s Vineyard and Hawaii- places they enjoy while billing their expenses to their companies. Reagan got a little break from the media (very little, but there nonetheless) because he vacationed at his ranch in California and the press liked going out there.

I assume Perry has a place in Texas that’s just as hot and uninteresting to the media as was Crawford. The media is really a gaggle of prostitutes who like the high life of the Vineyard, the Hamptons, Aspen/Vail, Napa, etc. 

Trying to stay in the thread and address JustPlay…

Medium of exchange is not only huge, it the definition of money. The other two, accounting and storage, are only uses of money.

Or course we use dollars (or other units of money) in accounting. Otherwise, the ledgers would list ten crates of apples and 12 crates of oranges. Total + 22 crates of fruit. We have already lost accuracy. How many plumbs is that worth? How does that translate to paying the electric bill for the refrigeration? I could go on.

So, money is the only practical way to calculate and store “value,” whether it is made of gold or paper, but only because it is a recognized medium of exchange.

Gold is valuable for these reasons. It is rare, and it is useful in electronics and other industrial uses, and it is pretty–gold leaf, gold jewelry, etc. The real value is rarity, and it is too rare to back all the money in the world. If all commerce had to stop because the world ran out of gold, all economies would collapse.

No Cosmos -

No attempt at humor here. Just an over appreciation for humans and their attempt at debate. You have shown a poor attempt and Satan’s Anus wants you to try harder. Your feeble attempt at putting Satan’s Anus in a corner makes Satan’s Anus feel really good – so good Satan’s Anus wants to poke your hollow ego with an excrement covered stick – he enjoys it very much!

.kjhblkhb;kh

FACT: Your posts reek of a male prostitute’s perineum. Try that on for size, math major.

Oh Hugo -

Give them some credit. They are right that jobs were created in Texas, maybe not as many as they claim, but regardless, Texas was only capable of making said jobs by accepting Obama’s stimulus package – the same stimulus package that the Texas senate had to force Perry to accept: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/17/stimulus-texas-senate-def_n_188130.html

So give them some credit because when you do they invariably are giving Obama credit as well. Plus you can watch as they writhe in misery as Satan’s Anus throws such an important Perry talking point right back in their faces, with a full helping of feculence: “Since Obama’s inauguration, Texas has created over half of the jobs in the U.S. with Perry at the helm.” FACT: Those jobs were created using stimulus money that Perry initially refused, but then was subsequently over ruled by the Texas senate and forced to accept. Hence, Perry was forced to create half of the jobs in America using Obama’s stimulus money, which only helps Obama’s and the stimulus’ image. 

Satan’s Anus says: “Keep up with Perry talking points concerning job creation! It only helps Obama!”

So you’re feeling like a good anus? That seems logical since you’re acting like one.

Inflating our way out of debt, because politicians are too cowardly to cut spending, is simply a horrible idea. Nothing would be worse.

Baustian:Agreed

Devils_Spawn: If all commerce had to stop because the world ran out of gold, all economies would collapse. 

That’s not staying in a reasonable discussion
The commodity would just go up in value. traded at higher cost of other commodities to gain access. Again, if you keep printing money to never run out, you run your money into a useless parade shredding commodity.

Real nice Scott -

Did you read the link you provided? Or the links in the link?

“Would you rather have a check for $9,513.76 — or more people working at the DMV?”

Satan’s Anus wants to know what kind of “leading” question is that? Satan’s Anus found it in the link you provided and it is a very disingenuous point to make. The stimulus money did create many jobs that YOU and your ilk choose to lump into Perry’s job creation numbers.

Quality of jobs is the main point to be made? Well than provide a link that shows cutting taxes to the rich will automatically create high paying, high credentialed and licensed jobs in America. Provide a link that shows that the money saved by corporate America through the Bush-Obama tax cuts actually surpassed the corporate owners pockets and were directly invested into job creation. You can’t? My-my, Satan’s Anus wonders “why?”

Could it be that corporate job creation is solely dependent upon customer interest in products and services? You can cut taxes to Mad Maxes Philly Cheese Steaks all you want, but if Mad Max layers too much rat excrement beneath the curdled cheese that passed the nonexistent health inspection by the nonexistent health department (thank you cuts in government spending), then where do you think Mad Max’s tax cut is going to end up? Paying for more employees to wash clean dishes? Or do you think it will line Mad Maxes pocket a little more to stave off approaching a bank who offers nonexistent government backed business loans (thank you again government spending cuts – the SBA is fine on its own).

Production of goods does not determine job creation. Sales and demand determines job creation. You need to have more people buying products and services (much like what GW Bush asked us to do right after 9/11) in order to legitimately hire more workers. Handing over free money to corporations (no matter how small – Mad Max only has a couple counters) via tax breaks only makes them feel a little more rich. There is ZERO guarantee revenue that normally would have been tax expenditures would be used to strengthen a company’s workforce.

Why this country chooses to trust capitalists with a socialist mission is beyond the thought process of Satan’s Anus. 

Sorry honey, but Satan’s Anus says: “You can’t have your cake and eat it too.”

Satan’s Anus agrees. Those corporate tax cuts and elimination of young workers programs and youth summer education and sports programs definitely affect disenfranchised, urban, minority youth negatively.

And the right wonders why this demographic only chooses to vote Democrat. Furthermore, the left wonders why this demographic hardly turns out to vote. Conservatives undercut them no matter the circumstance. Now that Obama has shown the same behavior, he runs the risk of not having the support of this demographic at all – simply because he “compromises” with the right. Well a compromise with the right regarding this demographic’s circumstances usually spells out further disenfranchisement of this demographic.

Satan’s Anus thanks the conservatives for keeping this demographic in check. You people are true heroes. *Satan’s Anus must reveal his sarcastic intentions in the previous comment*

OK. Still keeping it as civil as we both want, while still disagreeing. Glad I didn’t blow that part. The thread moves upward now.

Not trying to insult you, but a true understanding of money includes knowing what M0 ( M zero), M1, M2, and M3 are. That’s too much for here, but here is a link: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/moneysupply.asp

The US Treasury prints the money. The FED does not.

Now, you should look for more info on what the FED really is. http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/federal-reserve-bank-ownership/   There are lots of links that will give you biased information, but I think factcheck is neutral. 

Herman Cain is the real expert you should ask about this. He was the Chairman of the Kansas City branch of the FED. He doesn’t bring that up, though.

Satan’s Anus,

That you finally stopped refusing to consider the option and instead relaxed, opened wide and accepted the possibility – even though it did not fully penetrate – is encouraging.

I realize that attacking a massive new concept like this from a dry start – without gingerly dipping in much smaller and more manageable pieces first – may have been a mistake.

Perhaps we can try again when you’re not so stressed – say on a Friday when the entire weekend is available to gently explore until the magical moment when we can finally thrust deeply into the larger issue?

Economics may seem like a crazy idea, something only practiced by freaks and degenerates.  But, I can assure you, it can be quite enjoyable once you come to fully accept it.

-S

Yay! CosmosDan figured it out! Satan’s Anus usually has to spell out the definition of irony for those poor
souls who are too slow to catch on to Satan’s Anus’ intentions.

For that, Satan’s Anus gives you three brownie points. But he warns you, don’t go and spend them all in one place.

Now that we have moved past the formalities of introduction, allow me to touch on your point about god. Yes – god has no mercy – as exemplified by Bush’s first election then subsequent reelection. With such absolute evil already spread across the beautiful mountains, plains, and deserts of America, Satan’s Anus had to sit back and wait for the ultimate evil’s mission to be completed.

Now that a spineless “community organizer” is attempting to put the correct pieces back in place, Satan’s Anus feels compelled to run around message boards poking hollow egos (like yours) with an excrement covered stick.

Enjoy it, because Satan’s Anus is having a ball. And when Satan’s Anus is happy – Satan’s Left Hand is happy as well. And when Satan’s Left Hand is happy…. well if you understand the historical and cultural context of the left hand, you can get a pretty good idea of what that means…

                  

                                                  

Let’s compromise. Reduce Texas and cut Dallas out of the budget.

Intriguing response there, Scott.

Although you refer to the term economics as if it is a form of physical science. It is not, it is a social science that is currently delved in an on going debate.

For an example I offer you the Bitcoin – an online currency that is not backed by any substance or government, yet still holds tangible value (currently at $14 per Bitcoin). How can this be?

According to most economic theories, a currency had to be backed by BOTH a substance and a standing army (i.e. government). But Bitcoin is not and has not for the 2 years of its existence. Yet people use it everyday. It has its own trading market. Even more so, the black market has adopted the currency as well (i.e. illicit drugs, guns, prostitutes, etc. – google THE SILK ROAD for more information on that).

Satan’s Anus’ point here is that although your post is valid, it is only subjectively valid (as is mine – of course). The idea that there is one set of economics that is 100% effective and for the U.S. 100% the answer is a dangerous (and communist leaning) thought process. Though, subjectivity does not lend itself to history. And fortunately for the anti-capitalists, history has shown that massive tax breaks to the top fiscal 1% of the population does not help massive economies – it only hurts. Combinations of the two (tax breaks and government spending under Bush) really didn’t help either.

What does that leave? More debate. Not “if you just try economics, you will see it works.”

Obviously Jesus chose them looking forward to the day God would love America best.

As my friend Dave used to say, “Let’s have a ball…..let’s have two.”

As my friend Dave used to say, “Let’s have a ball…..let’s have two.”  — Cosmos Dave

Yes…yes…two balls, then comes Satan’s Perineum, and then finally – ah yes – Satan’s Anus. One ball or two, Satan’s Anus enjoys them all!

I nominate Perry Mason……um….JR.

When I borrow a billion dollars from you today and pay it back next month, no money really changed hands. It is all electrons.

Yeah, we are getting into the silly.. people also know a gold backed note is paper..  but its backed with gold. your still missing it.. I don’t know how to explain it more when we get into this type debate. I could only suggest read up on gold as the commodity in America and why it is better than just printing(or electronicly transfering) money. It’s not a gimmick as the current system is, which works off the tax base and investment.. you would have another option and as your more than likey going to see a better one.  yes, your money you have now would still be backed by the federal reserve and our government. You would introduce bills that are not only backed with words, But a commodity that yes, you do have the choice in getting in return paper or the commodity. It runs by the current cost of gold world wide not just made in America. Which stops a crash like the one about to happen. Look towards Greece for one that’s coming before us although they got saved with printed money too for the moment.There are alot of articles out there that may make it clearer to you. I haven’t a clue how to explain it in a blog comment post. The bottomline, it’s an option to lower the Debt by removing the FED..we want smaller and cheaper government don’t we? I sure do!  ask around and look around. enjoyed the talks..

Maybe it’s time to get to the IRS Ron Paul wants to get rid of and going flat tax!! you go Ron Paul!! Herman Cain can help here with one of his recent quotes.. no more than 3 pages.. That’s all the IRS should be! Flat tax with an adjustable percentage if by class if needed. across the board. simple, no loop holes. Your gross or a Business – % Feds charge period.. now whats wrong with that?

an old saying that comes to mind all the time “Keep it simple Stupid” has alot of meaning.

Being a Texan isn’t what’s going to stop him from winning.  It’s his lack of touch with reality.

He claimed to balance the state budget but took $6.4 billion in federal aid to do so.

Nothing like taking credit for something Obama did and calling yourself a “fiscal conservative” by taking stimulus money.

A true fiscal conservative that took $6.4 billion in stimulus money to fix 97% of his state’s budget gap…

His image problem is mainly a reality problem.

A true fiscal conservative that took $6.4 billion in stimulus money to fix 97% of his state’s budget gap…

His image problem is mainly a reality problem.

 I was referring just to the maroon to whom I was replying to. I was not over generalizing like you & he did.