Beck told himself it was true – and he believed it!

Pretty much all the presidents and politicians were racist before the sixty’s. “Thats why we” had the civil rights movement….

It’s news that Wilson was racist? He was president nearly 100 years ago.

Yet another round of Glenn is crazy, but I’m not going to bother refuting anything he says because I can’t. Don’t you libs ever tire of this game? YAWN!!

MichelleF says:
June 4, 2010 at 9:32 am

Yet another round of Glenn is crazy, but I’m not going to bother refuting anything he says because I can’t. Don’t you libs ever tire of this game? YAWN!!

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Good moaning, Michelle, my little ray of sunshine in the West. Here’s hoping you have a wonderful day with all sorts of opportunities for bleating, moaning and whining, moaning, whining and bleating, and, lastly,whining, bleating and moaning.

I guess some never tire of it just like others never tire of defending him every chance they get.

As usual, Glen(n) deceives his sheeple by omission. If we take the standard shared by the vast majority of Americans today, Wilson seems to be a wretched racist. If we take the standard proffered by the Tea Party and the radical right element of the Republican party, Wilson is a beacon of enlightenment on racial matters. But, we can only judge him by the standard of his time. The most enlightened racial standard in the US (and the UK) at the time was “White Man’s Burden”. Wilson embodied that. I doubt Glen(n) realizes that in his anti-intellectual, ahistorical crusade, but it is a fact nonetheless.

I don’t need to defend him, he does just fine on his own. Of course, you wouldn’t know that since you don’t in fact, watch or listen to him, you just get your talking poitns from Media Matters, Daily Kos and now mediaite.

Michelle, open your mind a little. If you think everyone like me gets their talking points from Media Matters and Daily Kos, you are very sadly mistaken. I have never been to Daily Kos. Not once. I only occasionally glance at MM if someone else links to it. I never go there otherwise. It’s not a bookmark for me. I also don’t watch Olbermann or MSNBC in general, except for Morning Joe every once in a while. Not everyone fits into a nice little box, though clearly some feel more comfortable believing that they do.

MichelleF says:
June 4, 2010 at 9:47 am

I don’t need to defend him, he does just fine on his own. Of course, you wouldn’t know that since you don’t in fact, watch or listen to him, you just get your talking poitns from Media Matters, Daily Kos and now mediaite.

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You are my Sunshine,
My only Sunshine,
You make me happy,
When days are gray,
You’ll never know dear,
How much I love you,
Please don’t take my sunshine away.

Paul, yet you obviously do not watch or listen to Glenn because you don’t know what you are talking about, Maybe you could open YOUR mind and listen to him and judge for yourself.

And King, I can tell you think you are funny, but sadly you are not.

Don’t know what I’m talking about in relation to what? And you are wrong, which often happens when you assume. I have seen Beck. I have family members who are fans. I have seen his show and heard him on the radio.

Paul, that just can’t be true. If you had ever listened to or watched Glen(n) you would have fallen under his spell. It can be avoided. If you don’t go prostrate before Glen(n) at his every word, you cannot be listening to him.

MichelleF says:
June 4, 2010 at 9:57 am

Paul, yet you obviously do not watch or listen to Glenn because you don’t know what you are talking about, Maybe you could open YOUR mind and listen to him and judge for yourself.

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I take Paul at his word, Michelle, but even if you were correct, Paul would be in the good company of 99.3% of Americans who don’t watch Glen(n).

Buy gold.
Use gold to buy seeds.

The Real Royal King says:
June 4, 2010 at 10:05 am
Paul, that just can’t be true. If you had ever listened to or watched Glen(n) you would have fallen under his spell. It can be avoided. If you don’t go prostrate before Glen(n) at his every word, you cannot be listening to him.

So where is he wrong, since you’ve watch him. Back up your criticism with facts.

I take Paul at his word, Michelle, but even if you were correct, Paul would be in the good company of 99.3% of Americans who don’t watch Glen(n).

King, maybe you should ask yourself why the POTUS and his minions at media matter and SEIU are so focused on taking someone down that only .7% of the country listens too. That’s seems a little odd, doesn’t it. Don’t they have better things to do with their time?

What criticism Michelle? And of course it’s true. My uncle, father-in-law and mother-in-law are fans. They watch him every night. I have probably seen Beck on TV 15 or 20 times while visiting.

Michelle, Dearest, that is exactly what I did above. Glen(n), by either intentional or ignorant omission completely mischaracterized one of our great war time presidents. I fear none of the criticism of your Messiah ever sinks through the old noggin’. If you can’t remember even in same link, that is demonstrably true.

Buy gold.
Use gold to buy seeds.

Paul,
I’m not really talking about any specific criticism from you, I was speaking generally. Beck is bashed 24/7, but rarely on anything of substance. I find it curious.

I think it’s all very subjective Michelle, when it comes to Beck and how one feels about him. There’s really not much neutral territory.

The Real Royal King says:
June 4, 2010 at 9:41 am

No matter the situation, no matter the evidence, no matter the reasoning… to TRRK, the right is always wrong.

Man-o-man, does it ever get boring to read your stuff. The same thing, everyday. Can’t defend the left, only attack the right. We get it Bovine… sorry, I mean King. I guess your irrationality has spread…

I think Glenn (Beck, that is, not Bovine who has been posting above under his other name) is a going a bit overboard on his Wilson characterization. But that’s what Glenn does. And since Bovine considers all whites to be racist, then on that account, Wilson would qualify.

I too can’t believe they didn’t teach a young O’Reilly how crazy Glenn Beck is.

Lousy school system.

Mr Royal R Kin(g) ,

“We should not only use the brains we have, but all that we can borrow.” ~Woodrow Wilson

And so began deficit spending by the progressives.

Mr Royal R Kin(g) after having read your fine legal “analysis” of yesterday , please step up for seconds , its a bill that I ‘m only to pay.

You are the weakest link GOODBYE !

“You are the weakest link GOODBYE !”

ur kiddin right

“Burnnotice says:
June 4, 2010 at 8:45 am

Pretty much all the presidents and politicians were racist before the sixty’s. “Thats why we” had the civil rights movement…”

I’m on the left but I can not accept that statement. It’s fallacious. Granted there were many US presidents before the 60′s who were racist or indifferent to racism, but that definitely does not encompass all. However, you do make a point there considering the context of this discussion. A few of the founders (Beck’s heroes) were white supremacists including Thomas Jefferson whom I consider the most brilliant (intellectually) U.S. president ever. He’s not my most favorite president though due to that one flaw.

Quite a few of the founders and ex U.S. Presidents were abolitionists. John Quincy Adams and my favorite founding father Benjamin Franklin.

Who the hell is Glenn Beck to talk about anything? Its as hypocritical as Republicans talking about family values and deficits. But dont expect the sheepel that watch this clown to understand. They have an agenda and the racist signs they carry tell it all. But for the open minded here are some of the things Beck has said and I leave it to the fair minded to judge.

Glenn Beck recently decried those that compared the Arizona immigration law to Nazi Germany but while talking about the recent health care bill Beck compared it to the Nazi eugenics program. Beck also compared the National Endowment for the Arts to the German Propaganda Ministry under Joseph Gobbels, teaching kids about climate change was likened to the Hitler Youth program, ACORN was compared to the Brown Shirts of Nazi Germany that aided Hitler’s rise, and President Obama’s call for more volunteers for the Peace Corp reminded him of Hitler’s SS.

But there is more to Beck than selectively quoted history and dumbed down logic.

On one show he exhorted his listeners, in a highly emotional rant, to “find the exit closest to you and prepare for a crash landing because the pilot (Obama) is intentionally steering it towards the trees!” Then he adds, “They are taking you to a place to be slaughtered!”

In other shows he has claimed Democrats are vampires and we should “drive a stake through the hearts of the bloodsuckers!”

Other Beck statements include, “Every night I get down on my knees and pray that Dennis Kucinich will burst into flames”, “ I am thinking about killing Michael Moore and I am wondering if I could kill him myself or if I would need to hire someone to do it”, “When I see a 9/11 victim family on television or whatever, I’m like ‘Oh shut up’ I am so sick of them because they are always complaining’, “The only Katrina victims we’re seeing on television are scumbags”’ and a segment of one program depicted the poisoning of Nancy Polosi. He called President Obama a “punk” for criticizing a Supreme Court decision during his State of the Union address apparently unaware that both George Bush and Ronald Reagan had done the same.

All of this wrapped up in the mantle of getting back to God and honoring the Founding Fathers.

Beck is a classic study in twisted logic, fear mongering and hate disguised as patriotism and religion and his success can only be explained by the hate, fear, racism and resistance to change, ignorance, willing denial of objective facts and the eager spreading of vicious lies and distortions that has gripped so much of the American nation since the election of the country’s first black President. He is a perfect example of what President Roosevelt warned about when he said, “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”

Anne 1 says:
June 4, 2010 at 11:58 am
Mr Royal R Kin(g) ,

“We should not only use the brains we have, but all that we can borrow.” ~Woodrow Wilson

You think they would have paid retail , and not gone for the cheap chinese knock off !

Vietnameravet says:
June 4, 2010 at 12:34 pm

Copy/Paste

Yeah, we get it.

Here is some more of Becks Bullcrap..twisted logic express.

Beck rants against Progressives who, he assures us, are heirs to the legacy of slaveholders, tyrants, dictators, Nazis and Communists. In fact, Progressives fought for Social Security, Medicare, the public school system, Federal food inspection, voting rights for blacks and women, health and safety regulations for working people, clean water and air and if you go back far enough, against slavery and abusive child labor. But Beck reasons that since Nazis and Communists also claimed they fought for “Social Welfare”, Progressives and Communists and Nazis are all one and the same. And, in a warning to viewers, Beck adds, “And what happens if when these Progressives don’t get their way?” According to Beck, “You get a bullet in the head.”

Beck’s recent suggestion that people leave their churches if they hear “preaching about social or economic justice” because, as these are code words for “Communism and Nazism” enraged many Church leaders. Reverend Jim Wallace of Sojourners saying “Beck’s show is in the same league as Howard Stern.” Amidst a storm of criticism, Beck modified his remarks but the idea remains. Those that promote social welfare through the use of government agencies are promoting tyranny and are a threat to the nation.

So if you believe Beck and someone tries to get your church to support a law against white slavery,,(forced prostitution) or to feed the hungry, you better get away from those commies and Nazis as soon as possible!
What an idiot! But the real tragedy today is the large number of people that actually listen and believe this self described “rodeo clown!” Ya! he actually said that about himself,.and “clowns” is the best description of his listeners.

Nothing Beck said to O’Reilly or on his Friday show was WRONG. O’Reilly is a dunce.

RRK says Wilson was one of great war time presidents, LOL. Who says so? The libs the wrote the history books that you read love Wilson. They are also racists as are all libs.

So Wilson did NOT resegregate the military? Since the Revolutionary Army included blacks it could not have been segregated. In the civil war the northern army was not segregated. So, when and who desegregated the army? Who wrote the book that CHANGED our history? Could it be Wilson? Who fired or removed all the blacks in the government except one when he took office? Could it be Wilson?

Libs just reapeat their lies over and over and they hope no one will notice.

Alexander Zaitchik has written a biography on Glenn Beck that puts his lunacy into perspective. According to an interview that Zaitchik gave to a former co-DJ of Beck’s in New Haven, CT, Beck would get emotional during his program, cut to commercial, dry up his “tears” and order a sandwich, and then as soon as he went back to air, the “tears” started flowing again. He’s proving to be a snake-oil salesman, where he gets “emotional” to show how “authentic” he is to gain the respect and attention of his audience. This was the case with another former co-host of one of Beck’s past radio shows in Tampa. He is an entertainer, even more so than Limbaugh and it’s scary the hold this man has on a large swath of America.

I have read plenty of books that are very harsh towards Wilson, three within the past year. All liberals are racist? Comments like that really enhance your credibility.

stooge, your fellow liberal Royal King would disagree with you on that last statement. According to him, only a teeny, tiny sliver of the population watches Fox.

Well, I agree and disagree….given that 2-4 million people per night watch Fox News, that IS a small percentage of a 300 million person population. But 2-4 million people is a lot of people. Many listen to his radio show.

MichelleF: I don’t know and don’t care enough about Wilson to directly address Beck’s points, but so what? As O’Reilly says this is 2010, we’re dealing with other stuff and toward the whole “indoctrination” thing that Beck tried to push about high school students… Woodrow Wilson is what, two or three paragraphs in a history textbook, plus he’s probably mentioned once or twice in relation to the war and again in the bit about the the League of Nations? Oh, and there’s probably a photo of him at Versailles… are the kids “indoctrinated” because there’s limited textbook space?

Otherwise, I’m surprised Beck is still planning to attend the “Bold/Fresh” dates, since he’s leading a ‘boycott’ against O’Reilly’s publisher. Maybe he’ll spend his segment telling folks not to buy Bill’s book.

Again, I side with Magister on this. So what about Woodrow Wilson? It’s almost as if Beck were somehow alive during the time of the Wilson administration and Wilson committed some unspeakable act of horror on Beck and his family.

If Wilson isn’t such a big deal… why have the history books white washed that element of his presidency?

How much time can a history book devote to every president? Maybe a class on the presidency could go into more detail, but a general history class probably doesn’t have the time to thoroughly cover each president. Certainly Wilson had enormous flaws, his views on race and his imprisonment of U.S. citizens for speaking out against WWI being two of them.

.@Michelle…..”If you had ever listened to or watched Glen(n) you would have fallen under his spell.”

ha ha thats all you had to say. Somebodies got a schoolgirl crush on the beckster! No wonder every time someone gives that idiot what he deserves, you get your panties all twisted up in a knot. Let me tell it to you like this: If you make a career out of slandering people, whether it be legitimate or not, your going to get attacked back. Its as easy as that.

You want something specific hes lying to you about;

Obama is a communist socialist.
For example, lets take that worthless piece of crap financial reform hes going to sign into law. You can’t be a communist socialist when you do everything in your power to limit the states ability to regulate financial markets by protecting the ‘status quo’ plutocracy of bankers and wall street. To big to fail.,,nahhh, A real audit of the fed..nahhh, derivative transparency….nahh, letting wall street lobyists write the rules they play by. Yea thats some change I can believe in. Yes there is a marriage between state and economics going on right now, its called CORPORATISM. If you dont believe me, maybe you’ll believe a fellow libertarian, who unlike the beckster, actually knows something about the way the world works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X7Q5_h3G4Y. Yup, the new boss looks a lot like the old boss.

@gordon…”The libs the wrote the history books that you read love Wilson. They are also racists as are all libs”

wow somebody needs to line up every english teacher you’ve ever had, and bitch slap the shit of them.

oh yea what kind of ‘socialist’ has tim geithner and larry summers as their top financial advisors. Or who reappoints ben i wanna take your fuckin social security bernake to head of the fed. obama is a socialist..,.,ha ha ha ha yeaa thats a good one!!!!!!

I know lets achieve universal healthcare by throwing everybody into a private sector that really has death panels and is responsible for over 60% of bankruptcies on working american families. What we got was some weak ass watered down reform that is riddled with 2000+ pages of loopholes. Socialist my fucking ass. Obama is your typical run of the mill corporatist democrat. You guys pushing this myth are doing this country a misfavor by distorting the arena of our political discourse.

http://www.businessinsider.com/2008/10/obama-s-financial-dream-team

yea a real socialist that obama