Now this thread will be fun!

Wait till GBR sets off his “BOMBSHELL” that will end Beck’s career. LOL

Fourteen of the fifteen are coming from GBR.

GbR = the reason Glenn Beck has to spend a million dollars a year on personal security.

citation needed, glenn beck.

Entering from Stage Left, let us welcome the one
and only GBR, MR BOMBSHELL, HIS OWN SELF!!!!

SPOT LIGHTS UP
DRUM ROLL—————–nowwwwwwwwwwwww.

And away we go >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hmmm…you make a living as a mouthpiece for corporate messaging, spewing hate and misinformation and it turns out people don’t like you? So weird.

You know what else is weird? Congress isn’t interested in signing Glenn’s agreement? Its almost like his ideas aren’t taken seriously by those in power. Or by anyone who doesn’t listen to FOX. Which is to say, those who possess critical thinking skills.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Glenn Beck has to spend a million dollars a year on personal security

He is lucky he can afford it.So, when Beck gets shot or killed are you all gonna make a joke about it.Always the same ones here trolling for trouble.

Glenn Beck walks into a bar. The bartender says, “We don’t get many people spewing hate in here.” And Beck says, “And with the prices you charge, you won’t get many more.”

Thank you. Try the veal, etc.

Beck has said in the past he peruses Mediaite , so it makes sense .

Ps. GBR — tic ..toc …tic.. toc ..tic ..toc

Glenn Beck renouncing violence is like that game you played with your little brother where you took his hand and started slapping him with it as you chanted “stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself!.”

I can’t wait to see the comments here. I hope somebody adds some links to anti Palin tweets and hopefully there are some Malkin links to some new “breaking news.”

I hope somebody brings up how President Obama encourages violence against your political foes.

Most celebrities get them. If you are controversial, you get more. Marilyn Manson had hundreds of death threats during his hey day as “the anti-Christ”, too.

So are you lefties going to tell us that Sarah Palin, Rush or “‘Reilly are making those threats?

“sustaining 15 threats to his person at any given time.”

I don’t get how this works. When a 16th person wants to threaten Beck does he have to wait in line or can he join threats with one of the 15?

BFD said:
Glenn Beck renouncing violence is like that game you played with your little brother where you took his hand and started slapping him with it as you chanted “stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself!.”

Is your little brother institutionalized now?

I guarantee that the number of threats Glenn has inspired others to make is more than those he has gotten himself.

timzank said:
Is your little brother institutionalized now?

I WAS THE LITTLE BROTHER!!! :(

BFD said:
When a 16th person wants to threaten Beck does he have to wait in line or can he join threats with one of the 15?

I must admit, lefties know how to play dumb!

BFD said:
I WAS THE LITTLE BROTHER!!! :(

‘splains a lot.

BFD said:
I guarantee that the number of threats Glenn has inspired others to make is more than those he has gotten himself.

lol

Hmmm, 15 operating threats at any one time multiplied by the 2 years he’s been taking a dump on the public discourse at Fox, and yet, not one arrest.

I email Glenn’s sidekick, Pat Gray, a couple of times a week, whenever they’ve been espcially fact-oblivious or just plain idiotic or even when a bit doesn’t quite work (because Glenn, Pat and Stu have this annoying habit of all three doing the same goober-voice in all their bits), and Pat, to his credit, usually responds in kind. Not always friendly, mind you, nothing excessive on either of our parts, at least from my perspective. You know, maybe I should go ahead and harvest the hydro in the back bedroom, and shut things down for awhile, just in case there’s a knock at the door from Glenn’s goons.

I wonder if Beck would like a cheese with that whine? It is terrible when anyone gets threats—right or left, but isn’t Mr. Beck in the hateful rhetoric business? That is how he has become a millionaire, so it seems a little disingenious for Beck to be crying to O’Reilly another hate merchant. Sorry can’t summon up to much sympathy for them, my sympathy goes to Congresswoman Giffords and all the other victims of Tucson, they were just minding their own business on a Saturday morning, not giving hate speech.

Before television, people had to read the newspaper before threatening each other. Those who couldn’t read were very docile.

BFD said:
I guarantee that the number of threats Glenn has inspired others to make is more than those he has gotten himself.

I believe you are right. Frankly, though, I am glad because a threat is usually a call for help. Glenn may get some people on their high horse, but at least we can then monitor those galloping about. (As opposed to they being quiet and deadly).

Another Battle Lost by the Left! (They try so hard, don’t they??? Hmmmmmmm)

Flemington, NJ, January 14, 2011 – A new national study among 1,437 self-reported Democrats, Republicans and Independents revealed that Americans indicated that Sarah Palin was more sincere and believable after viewing her speech in response to the shootings in Tucson.

Source: http://mediacurves.com/Politics/SarahPalinonTucson/Index.cfm

BatBoy said:
Another Battle Lost by the Right! (They try so hard, don’t they??? Hmmmmmmm)

January 14, 2011 01:05 PM EST

“A new McClatchy-Marist poll shows President Barack Obama with a commanding lead over three of the top contenders for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination. Sarah Palin fared the worst, trailing Obama 56-30 percent in the latest nationwide poll.”

Buh-Bye Sarah. :)

Nacho said:
I hope somebody brings up how President Obama encourages violence against your political foes.

Yeah… you DO realize the reason people brought those past quotes up , was because you pussy liberals cried all week about the ” heated rhetoric ” . YOUR side opened that can of worms. I don’t speak for all conservatives , but I have NO problem with Obama using combatives words , I welcome it .

BatBoy said:
Another Battle Lost by the Left! (They try so hard, don’t they??? Hmmmmmmm)

Flemington, NJ, January 14, 2011 – A new national study among 1,437 self-reported Democrats, Republicans and Independents revealed that Americans indicated that Sarah Palin was more sincere and believable after viewing her speech in response to the shootings in Tucson.

Source: http://mediacurves.com/Politics/SarahPalinonTucson/Index.cfm

Just keep telling yourself that viewing the world through the frame of “us and them” and “left and right” accomplishes something more than spreading vitriol.

BFD said:
Bye Sarah

How many times have you lefties said goodbye?

Here I have a song for you to sing…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCSvNZWpXaM (Be sure to turn up the volume!

BatBoy said:
How many times have you lefties said goodbye?

Every time she loses or quits her job we say goodbye. That adds up to quite a lot. lolol

adastra said:
vitrio

Oh no…I thought so…now we are going to have to hear this word from you lefties for the next few months!

I will predict right now…it is going to get old …and quick!

I hate a lot of thing. Vegetables, roaches, rattlesnakes, scorpions, Marxism, Communism, Socialism and Progressives. This society has an obsession with the idea that hate is a bad thing. I don’t agree, It depends on what you hate and why. Even God hates. He hates sin. He hates divorce. I wonder how many people now hate Jared Loughner. If all hate is so wrong then perhaps we should call for his release. Lots of people hate Glenn Beck for the very reasons many love him. He promotes fighting the progressive agenda and with that I agree. I have never heard of a call for violence coming from Glenn Beck.

ROCKSTEADY said:
He is lucky he can afford it.So, when Beck gets shot or killed are you all gonna make a joke about it.Always the same ones here trolling for trouble.

This implies that you know that someone’s going to kill him. Care to explain this notion?

BFD said:
Every time she loses or quits her job we say goodbye. That adds up to quite a lot. lolol

Last I checked, she didn’t quit anything. Care to explain this crazy thought? If the Left actually had a game plan for fixing the nation that would work, the Left might be successful without driving the media insane over Palin talk. Do you not have good ideas to contribute? Hmmm….

Ajolily said:
I have never heard of a call for violence coming from Glenn Beck.

How many times has Beck linked progressives to Nazis, either with words or pictures?

Hundreds.

That incites people. It easy to commit violence or threats of violence when you have deluded yourself into thinking you are fighting the Good Fight against Nazis.

BatBoy said:
Oh no…I thought so…now we are going to have to hear this word from you lefties for the next few months!

I will predict right now…it is going to get old …and quick!

what makes you think I’m a lefty? Oh yeah, because you reduce the world into “agrees blindly with me and my heroes” and “the enemy”.

You don’t have to be liberal to see that Glenn Beck makes a living instigating conflict and espousing extremist views rather than something useful like investigative journalism or thoughtful debate.

WCinWI said:
Last I checked, she didn’t quit anything. Care to explain this crazy thought? If the Left actually had a game plan for fixing the nation that would work, the Left might be successful without driving the media insane over Palin talk. Do you not have good ideas to contribute? Hmmm….

Have you checked since summer 2009? Thats about when she decided to quit her office as governor.

BFD said:
How many times has Beck linked progressives to Nazis, either with words or pictures?

Hundreds.

That incites people. It easy to commit violence or threats of violence when you have deluded yourself into thinking you are fighting the Good Fight against Nazis.

You’re implying that people don’t know rhetoric from violence. That’s not having a lot of faith in the American people. Care to move across seas?

adastra said:
Have you checked since summer 2009? Thats about when she decided to quit her office as governor.

No – That’s called a resignation. The legal system is expensive when you have to pay for it yourself.

WCinWI said:
No – That’s called a resignation. The legal system is expensive when you have to pay for it yourself.

Ok, lets hear why her “resignation” doesn’t count as quitting.

WCinWI said:
That’s not having a lot of faith in Glenn Beck viewers.

fixed that for you

BFD said:
How many times has Beck linked progressives to Nazis, either with words or pictures? Hundreds. That incites people. It easy to commit violence or threats of violence when you have deluded yourself into thinking you are fighting the Good Fight against Nazis.

Linking enemies to Nazis is a common tool used by both sides and I have yet to hear of a violent event brought on by it. Name one.

Ajolily said:
I hate a lot of thing. Vegetables, roaches, rattlesnakes, scorpions, Marxism, Communism, Socialism and Progressives. This society has an obsession with the idea that hate is a bad thing. I don’t agree, It depends on what you hate and why. Even God hates. He hates sin. He hates divorce. I wonder how many people now hate Jared Loughner. If all hate is so wrong then perhaps we should call for his release. Lots of people hate Glenn Beck for the very reasons many love him. He promotes fighting the progressive agenda and with that I agree. I have never heard of a call for violence coming from Glenn Beck.

You, sir, owe an apology to rattlesnakes and scorpions. Scorpions devour other insects and do their level hardworking best to keep the insect population down. The river crossing tale is nothing more than pure slander by the MSM of the day. Rattlesnakes keep the rodent population down and do their bit to prevent the spread of diseases such as black plague. They also raise the average intelligence level of humanity very slowly over time by biting people dumb enough to pick them up.

In short, these beasts are paragons of virtue, comparatively, and do not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath with the other vermin you have listed.

Making threats is wrong. The appropriate thing to do if being the subject of threats, though, is to inform security and/or law enforcement. Not to go brag about it on television to make yourself look important.

WCinWI said:
No – That’s called a resignation.

idiot post of the week

Ajolily said:
Linking enemies to Nazis is a common tool used by both sides and I have yet to hear of a violent event brought on by it. Name one.

youre a common tool

In the state of Alaska (it could be this way in other states), it’s my understanding that the Governor pays for their own legal bills. Tons of ethics violations were brought against her and her office had to deal with this day to day. Essentially, frivolous lawsuits. So instead of the state being able to do the citizen’s work, they spent hours working on these frivolous cases. Tons of them (I think 20 or more). Therefore, because Palin cared about the state of Alaska, she thought that it would be more important to save the time and resources of the Governor’s office, allowing another Conservative to take the saddle. Why do you think she did SPAlaska? Purely commercialism for Alaska. It’s quite obvious.

Each of the lawsuits has pretty much been dismissed from my understanding.

She was beyond smart in allowing her state to effectively govern.

BooHoo!

BFD said:
idiot post of the week

Apparently it was good enough to get you to comment on it. HA!

She should pay for her own legal fees. I have a feeling when they get to see those emails there will be more charges against her. Waiting for that shoe to drop.

TrollJuice said:
She should pay for her own legal fees. I have a feeling when they get to see those emails there will be more charges against her. Waiting for that shoe to drop.

These’ll come out at the same time that Obama provides the real birth certificate along with his college transcripts and his articles in the Law Review.

I’m not a Birther – just showing the silliness in your statement. :)

adastra said:
what makes you think I’m a lefty?

You are what you are!

adastra said:
You don’t have to be liberal to see that Glenn Beck makes a living instigating conflict and espousing extremist views rather than something useful like investigative journalism or thoughtful debate.

Yes you do! Quit reading GBR…they make crap up on that site and I would guess not one of them have every watched a complete show of Glenn Beck…they just feed on each others hate.

Helix said:
You, sir, owe an apology to rattlesnakes and scorpions. Scorpions devour other insects and do their level hardworking best to keep the insect population down. The river crossing tale is nothing more than pure slander by the MSM of the day. Rattlesnakes keep the rodent population down and do their bit to prevent the spread of diseases such as black plague. They also raise the average intelligence level of humanity very slowly over time by biting people dumb enough to pick them up. In short, these beasts are paragons of virtue, comparatively, and do not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath with the other vermin you have listed.

I stand corrected. If you know of any rattlesnakes or scorpions who were offended I’d be glad to sit down and have a beer with them as long as adequate security is provided.

WCinWI said:
In the state of Alaska (it could be this way in other states), it’s my understanding that the Governor pays for their own legal bills. Tons of ethics violations were brought against her and her office had to deal with this day to day. Essentially, frivolous lawsuits. So instead of the state being able to do the citizen’s work, they spent hours working on these frivolous cases. Tons of them (I think 20 or more). Therefore, because Palin cared about the state of Alaska, she thought that it would be more important to save the time and resources of the Governor’s office, allowing another Conservative to take the saddle. Why do you think she did SPAlaska? Purely commercialism for Alaska. It’s quite obvious.

Each of the lawsuits has pretty much been dismissed from my understanding.

She was beyond smart in allowing her state to effectively govern.

While I admire your optimism, I think its worth considering that Sarah, rather than being motivated to help Alaska, might have been more interested in pursuing the lucrative opportunities becoming available to her. She is reported to have made some $12 million since 2009 between speeches and her TV contract. And as governor, she was already a millionaire with an annual income in the neighborhood of four times that of the average Alaskan. One might think that would be enough money to fight lawsuits incurred by her own questionable choices as governor. Did she really want what was best for Alaska, or what was best for the Palins?

Her motivations aside, the case remains that she abandoned the people of Alaska to escape personal hardship, which doesn’t exactly indicate a high degree of dedication to public service.

BFD said:
“sustaining 15 threats to his person at any given time.”

I don’t get how this works. When a 16th person wants to threaten Beck does he have to wait in line or can he join threats with one of the 15?

It’s wait in line, piggybacking on to someone else’s Beck death threat is considered very bad form in those elite circles, so I am told. Contact Mark Penn, DLC pollster, and Oklahoma city type event strategist, for details and to get your place in the queue. SP, GB, and RL are all very popular so expect to wait a while for your rhetorical shot at any of the righty biggies. The second string commentators might have some openings, if you are in a hurry and need to threaten right away.

Ajolily said:
I hate a lot of thing. Vegetables, roaches, rattlesnakes, scorpions, Marxism, Communism, Socialism and Progressives. This society has an obsession with the idea that hate is a bad thing. I don’t agree, It depends on what you hate and why. Even God hates. He hates sin. He hates divorce. I wonder how many people now hate Jared Loughner. If all hate is so wrong then perhaps we should call for his release. Lots of people hate Glenn Beck for the very reasons many love him. He promotes fighting the progressive agenda and with that I agree. I have never heard of a call for violence coming from Glenn Beck.

BFD said:
How many times has Beck linked progressives to Nazis, either with words or pictures? Hundreds. That incites people. It easy to commit violence or threats of violence when you have deluded yourself into thinking you are fighting the Good Fight against Nazis.

Ajolily said:
Linking enemies to Nazis is a common tool used by both sides and I have yet to hear of a violent event brought on by it. Name one.

BFD said:
youre a common tool

Still waiting for the example! Name calling usually denotes a failure to formulate an intelligent answer.

BatBoy said:
You are what you are!

Yes you do! Quit reading GBR…they make crap up on that site and I would guess not one of them have every watched a complete show of Glenn Beck…they just feed on each others hate.

Ok, do you feel better?

Now, please answer my question. It seems to me that you assume I’m a liberal because I don’t think Gleck Beck adds anything positive to political discourse. I don’t even know what GBR is, I presume its an anti-Beck site. Is it possible to be a conservative and not care for Beck? Is it possible to be a liberal and disagree with Ken O?

BFD said:
“sustaining 15 threats to his person at any given time.”

I don’t get how this works. When a 16th person wants to threaten Beck does he have to wait in line or can he join threats with one of the 15?

It’s actually only 3 or 4, with Stu creating phony screen names for the rest.

Helix said:
Contact Mark Penn, DLC pollster, and Oklahoma city type event strategist, for details and to get your place in the queue. SP, GB, and RL are all very popular so expect to wait a while for your rhetorical shot at any of the righty biggies.

lol

valkyrie101 said:
Most celebrities get them. If you are controversial, you get more. Marilyn Manson had hundreds of death threats during his hey day as “the anti-Christ”, too.

Very true. And the more controversial one is the more threats will be sent out. Comes with the territory.

Ajolily said:
I hate a lot of thing. Vegetables, roaches, rattlesnakes, scorpions, Marxism, Communism, Socialism and Progressives. This society has an obsession with the idea that hate is a bad thing. I don’t agree, It depends on what you hate and why.

I would agree, except I think it’s more to HOW you hate. One can express what they hate without trying to convince others to hate it as well by scaring the bejesus out of them. I have never heard Beck call for a revolution but he sure enough scares people by saying the progressives are calling for a revolution. There by giving the impression that conservatives must get one step ahead. How? Could make someone think they must start a revolution first.

adastra said:
Ok, do you feel better? Now, please answer my question. It seems to me that you assume I’m a liberal because I don’t think Gleck Beck adds anything positive to political discourse. I don’t even know what GBR is, I presume its an anti-Beck site. Is it possible to be a conservative and not care for Beck? Is it possible to be a liberal and disagree with Ken O?

The answer is yes. Unless either is on the fringe or so it appears that way to me.

WCinWI said:
because Palin cared about the state of Alaska

HAHAHAHA She left to make more money for herself, She couldn’t promote her book on the circuit while being Gov..But thats a good one.

Yes, Mr. beck everyone who disagrees with you is out to get you…..

MiddleRoader said:
I would agree, except I think it’s more to HOW you hate. One can express what they hate without trying to convince others to hate it as well by scaring the bejesus out of them. I have never heard Beck call for a revolution but he sure enough scares people by saying the progressives are calling for a revolution. There by giving the impression that conservatives must get one step ahead. How? Could make someone think they must start a revolution first.

Very good point about how you hate and I thank you. I think that the people can like sheep just go along without a care in the world thinking that there is no one out there with the intent of hurting them. Hate by telling lies and making up stuff that gullible people then use to justify violence would be a good example of how you hate. However progressivism is scary and many would say that Glenn Beck is doing what needs to be done in informing the people of what is truly going on. It is scary. So I very much disagree that scaring people is wrong. Is Beck using the scare TACTIC? I don’t think that is his primary objective but it is part of it. He doesn’t use it however anymore than do the left.

adastra said:
While I admire your optimism, I think its worth considering that Sarah, rather than being motivated to help Alaska, might have been more interested in pursuing the lucrative opportunities becoming available to her. She is reported to have made some $12 million since 2009 between speeches and her TV contract. And as governor, she was already a millionaire with an annual income in the neighborhood of four times that of the average Alaskan. One might think that would be enough money to fight lawsuits incurred by her own questionable choices as governor. Did she really want what was best for Alaska, or what was best for the Palins?

Her motivations aside, the case remains that she abandoned the people of Alaska to escape personal hardship, which doesn’t exactly indicate a high degree of dedication to public service.

It has nothing to do with optimism. It has to do with being practical. She had already accomplished what she had wanted to as Governor. She was facing enormous amounts of legal bills and was constantly getting ethics violations thrown at her over the smallest things. I am a free-market capitalist. I would rather have her do more good for the Conservative movement on the side, earning money, than holed up in a state where she is being “attacked” over frivolous matters.

Please point out these questionable choices as Governor. From what I know, she was an effective Governor. Also, having worked in the legal profession on the secretarial side, it is highly time consuming and I would bet beyond expensive for an average person, let alone even someone making $1 mill..

And from her show on TLC, she wanted what was best for Alaska. It was the best combination or reality meets travelogue in a beautifully executed setting. I’m sure that show alone brings in more travel to the state than the current President could offer.

ROCKSTEADY said:
HAHAHAHA She left to make more money for herself, She couldn’t promote her book on the circuit while being Gov..But thats a good one.

When you learn to write messages without using crude name-calling, then I’ll start to take you seriously.

Ajolily said:
However progressivism is scary and many would say that Glenn Beck is doing what needs to be done in informing the people of what is truly going on. It is scary. So I very much disagree that scaring people is wrong. Is Beck using the scare TACTIC? I don’t think that is his primary objective but it is part of it. He doesn’t use it however anymore than do the left.

Beck doing what he thinks or believes by informing is not the problem perse. But (admittedly I don’t listen to him nightly but more than one might think) I have yet to hear him offer a solution. I don’t hear him say to people write your representative, boycott, peacefully protest etc.

As far as the left doing it, I don’t think as harshly right now. Now when Bush was in office, possibly and I wouldn’t doubt it. But truthfully I did not really catch on to MSNBC till Bush’s last year in office. And while I remember anger from the left, at this point I can’t really remember anyone on the left speaking even as close to Beck or Limbaugh at this time. Not saying I can’t be mistaken, just saying I don’t recall it.

WCinWI said:
And from her show on TLC, she wanted what was best for Alaska. It was the best combination or reality meets travelogue in a beautifully executed setting. I’m sure that show alone brings in more travel to the state than the current President could offer.

I’m sure you’re right and $1M per episode had nothing to do with it.

I’m not saying Sarah is evil, I just think the Republican party can do better. Sarah might have charisma, but she’s dumber than a sack of doorknobs. Surely, someone in the party can back up a bright personality with the intellectual capability to match.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/14/eric-fuller-tucson-palin-beck-angle_n_809309.html

MiddleRoader said:
Beck doing what he thinks or believes by informing is not the problem perse. But (admittedly I don’t listen to him nightly but more than one might think) I have yet to hear him offer a solution. I don’t hear him say to people write your representative, boycott, peacefully protest etc. As far as the left doing it, I don’t think as harshly right now. Now when Bush was in office, possibly and I wouldn’t doubt it. But truthfully I did not really catch on to MSNBC till Bush’s last year in office. And while I remember anger from the left, at this point I can’t really remember anyone on the left speaking even as close to Beck or Limbaugh at this time. Not saying I can’t be mistaken, just saying I don’t recall it.

No I don’t think I have heard of solutions to specifics so much but only showing what the progressives are doing and why they must be stopped. But in so doing he is pointing to solutions and bringing the attention to the problems so the people will call for answers and politicians must begin to address them. I think you are wrong about him not calling for writing our representatives, he has. Boycotts of what? Peaceful protest? What do you call the Restoring Honor Rally? I really tire of the argument that if you don’t like something you have to have the solution. I know world hunger is bad but I don’t have a solution for it. I am looking for leaders who do.

adastra said:
I’m sure you’re right and $1M per episode had nothing to do with it.

I’m not saying Sarah is evil, I just think the Republican party can do better. Sarah might have charisma, but she’s dumber than a sack of doorknobs. Surely, someone in the party can back up a bright personality with the intellectual capability to match.

This where I get a bit confused. Based on your and others low opinions of her intelligence, shouldn’t you all be applauding Palin for leaving the governor’s post instead of ripping on her for it? I’d think you’d agree it was the best thing or Alaska that she was no longer in charge since ‘she’s dumber than a sack of doorknobs’? Instead, I think you try to have it both ways.

fanofamerica said:
This where I get a bit confused. Based on your and others low opinions of her intelligence, shouldn’t you all be applauding Palin for leaving the governor’s post instead of ripping on her for it? I’d think you’d agree it was the best thing or Alaska that she was no longer in charge since ’she’s dumber than a sack of doorknobs’? Instead, I think you try to have it both ways.

Well, I don’t think those are mutually exclusive opinions. I am glad she is no longer governor and I do think Alaska is probably better off, and I think her motivations for quitting were largely self serving. Where is the conflict in that?

If she had quit because she realized her intellectual handicap was unfair to the citizens of Alaska, then, yes, I would applaud her as you suggest.

Ajolily said:
I know world hunger is bad but I don’t have a solution for it. I am looking for leaders who do.

IMO Beck considers himself a leader. The take I get on him is that he is the only one that is telling the truth. His favorite line is “You heard it here first.” I do not have answers either to much of this country’s woe. But I don’t have a television show to point them out, stimulate people to fight against it and then not provide them with the means and ways. As far as the restoring honor rally went. I do not think it was a peaceful protest. I believe it possibly started out to be but when he decided to pick that specific day and was critisized for it, he changed it into a more religious tone. I see no problem if it was intended to be a peaceful protest rally. But…..it didn’t turn out to be one. Again IMO.

MiddleRoader said:
IMO Beck considers himself a leader. The take I get on him is that he is the only one that is telling the truth. His favorite line is “You heard it here first.” I do not have answers either to much of this country’s woe. But I don’t have a television show to point them out, stimulate people to fight against it and then not provide them with the means and ways. As far as the restoring honor rally went. I do not think it was a peaceful protest. I believe it possibly started out to be but when he decided to pick that specific day and was critisized for it, he changed it into a more religious tone. I see no problem if it was intended to be a peaceful protest rally. But…..it didn’t turn out to be one. Again IMO.

I would also like to say, If I give him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he just takes it for granted that people will use the peaceful way to make a change. ie vote, protest etc. But with the way I feel he scares people and does not provide or remind the peaceful way to make change is when perhaps I repeat “perhaps” an unhinged person will take it the wrong way and do something extreme.

Out of the 15 “operating” threats at any given time – how many are the product of Glen’s vivid and perverted imagination?

adastra said:
Well, I don’t think those are mutually exclusive opinions. I am glad she is no longer governor and I do think Alaska is probably better off, and I think her motivations for quitting were largely self serving. Where is the conflict in that?

If she had quit because she realized her intellectual handicap was unfair to the citizens of Alaska, then, yes, I would applaud her as you suggest.

Which state do you live in? I think it’s funny when people have lots of opinions and don’t actually run for office or work in politics to change anything. Perhaps you are working with local officials and if so, good for you.

AZ victim threatens tea party leader and others…

http://www.kgun9.com/Global/story.asp?S=13849741

MiddleRoader said:
IMO Beck considers himself a leader. The take I get on him is that he is the only one that is telling the truth. His favorite line is “You heard it here first.” I do not have answers either to much of this country’s woe. But I don’t have a television show to point them out, stimulate people to fight against it and then not provide them with the means and ways. As far as the restoring honor rally went. I do not think it was a peaceful protest. I believe it possibly started out to be but when he decided to pick that specific day and was critisized for it, he changed it into a more religious tone. I see no problem if it was intended to be a peaceful protest rally. But…..it didn’t turn out to be one. Again IMO.

His primary goal is to educate people and an educated people will not keep voting in progressives and that is one solution in and of itself. Everyone deserves to know what they are up against. I don’t agree with you about the rally being anything other than a peaceful rally. The left works very hard to spin everything the right does to make the intent other than what it was. There are many other suggested solutions in Glenn Becks analysis and discussions but those will not be acknowledged by his detractors. Is he a leader? Yes I guess he is but I have never thought of him or Limbaugh as such. By leaders in my comment I meant those in positions to write or vote on our laws.

Ajolily said:
His primary goal is to educate people and an educated people will not keep voting in progressives and that is one solution in and of itself. Everyone deserves to know what they are up against. I don’t agree with you about the rally being anything other than a peaceful rally. The left works very hard to spin everything the right does to make the intent other than what it was. There are many other suggested solutions in Glenn Becks analysis and discussions but those will not be acknowledged by his detractors. Is he a leader? Yes I guess he is but I have never thought of him or Limbaugh as such. By leaders in my comment I meant those in positions to write or vote on our laws.

Wow. Glen Beck the educator? Sweet Jesus, public education has indeed failed us.

Ajolily said:
No I don’t think I have heard of solutions to specifics so much but only showing what the progressives are doing and why they must be stopped.

But stopped how? IMO Thats where he misses. I think at the end of each show he should say, hold your reps responsible, get them to answer your questions. Something to that affect. A responsible people will do the responsible thing. Obviously reasonable people (which is most in this country) will do the reasonable thing. It only takes one unhinged/mentally deranged person to create a tragedy. I don’t promote the idea of limiting free speech in the form of shutting down Beck or Limbaugh or whomever is bellowing the loudest, but I do think they need, we all need, to be wary, as the congresswoman stated that words have consequences. Do I think Beck, Palin et al mean for people to take up guns and settle the situation that way? No, I don’t, but without providing or reminding of reasonable ways to make change, they leave the door wide open for the unstable. Just as some on the left may as well.

Ajolily said:
There are many other suggested solutions in Glenn Becks analysis and discussions but those will not be acknowledged by his detractors. Is he a leader? Yes I guess he is but I have never thought of him or Limbaugh as such.

Maybe those are on the nights I’ve missed. I can’t argue that really as I said I don’t listen to him every night. I don’t consider Beck, Limbaugh, pundits on the left as leaders either. But again, Beck comes across to me as he wants to be a leader, leader of a revolution (not necessarily violent revolution) to stop the progressives. But I have never heard of him giving the solution/s. The same I feel about Alex Jones. He’s there spouting all that he does, but he doesn’t give any solutions accept buying survival meals. Well if people are gonna need MRE’s it seems to me he thinks at some point there to be a revolution, heavy overthrow and chaos etc will insue and you might need to live off of those rations. Maybe I’m the retarded one here but this is the jist I get when I listen to both of them.

SarahP. said:
Wow. Glen Beck the educator? Sweet Jesus, public education has indeed failed us.

Its true, Beck is excellent.. He’s mostly soothing the beast now.

MiddleRoader said:
But stopped how? IMO Thats where he misses. I think at the end of each show he should say, hold your reps responsible, get them to answer your questions. Something to that affect. A responsible people will do the responsible thing. Obviously reasonable people (which is most in this country) will do the reasonable thing. It only takes one unhinged/mentally deranged person to create a tragedy. I don’t promote the idea of limiting free speech in the form of shutting down Beck or Limbaugh or whomever is bellowing the loudest, but I do think they need, we all need, to be wary, as the congresswoman stated that words have consequences. Do I think Beck, Palin et al mean for people to take up guns and settle the situation that way? No, I don’t, but without providing or reminding of reasonable ways to make change, they leave the door wide open for the unstable. Just as some on the left may as well.

Have you not been listening? At the ballot box voting out the progressives. I have heard him say often that we need to contact our representative and tell them how we feel. You have now taken this back to the erroneous point that any opinion made by someone who disagrees with someone else may lead an unhinged person to create a tragedy. Given this premise we must dispense with elections entirely. We must move to a one party system where we all agree on everything. I suggest we add some chemical to the water so that we are all happy and deluded so that no mad man will ever create another tragedy. We must do this in other areas as well. We must fire all popular Actors and Actresses because they attract stalkers. We must do this at our schools too. No more cheer leaders and football heroes as they make those who are as popular or pretty to feel bad and they may get a gun and pull it out at a football game and kill everyone. And lets get the planes out of the sky as one may fail and land on a bunch of houses.

Have you not been listening? At the ballot box voting out the progressives. I have heard him say often that we need to contact our representative and tell them how we feel. You have now taken this back to the erroneous point that any opinion made by someone who disagrees with someone else may lead an unhinged person to create a tragedy. You ask that they should at the end of each show say hold your reps responsible, get them to answer your questions. Isn’t this what the shooter did? He is said to be angry at Gifford because she did not answer his question as he wanted it answered back in 2007 when I don‘t think Beck was even widely known. A crazy question no one understands. Crazy is Crazy and Glenn Becks show had nothing to do with the tragedy in Tucson.

Ajolily said:
Have you not been listening? At the ballot box voting out the progressives. I have heard him say often that we need to contact our representative and tell them how we feel. You have now taken this back to the erroneous point that any opinion made by someone who disagrees with someone else may lead an unhinged person to create a tragedy. Given this premise we must dispense with elections entirely. We must move to a one party system where we all agree on everything. I suggest we add some chemical to the water so that we are all happy and deluded so that no mad man will ever create another tragedy. We must do this in other areas as well. We must fire all popular Actors and Actresses because they attract stalkers. We must do this at our schools too. No more cheer leaders and football heroes as they make those who are as popular or pretty to feel bad and they may get a gun and pull it out at a football game and kill everyone. And lets get the planes out of the sky as one may fail and land on a bunch of houses.

Have you not been listening? At the ballot box voting out the progressives. I have heard him say often that we need to contact our representative and tell them how we feel. You have now taken this back to the erroneous point that any opinion made by someone who disagrees with someone else may lead an unhinged person to create a tragedy. You ask that they should at the end of each show say hold your reps responsible, get them to answer your questions. Isn’t this what the shooter did? He is said to be angry at Gifford because she did not answer his question as he wanted it answered back in 2007 when I don‘t think Beck was even widely known. A crazy question no one understands. Crazy is Crazy and Glenn Becks show had nothing to do with the tragedy in Tucson.

Glen Beck sells snake oil. It’s sad to see so many naive individuals get sucked up in his bs.

LOL, I was working on my answer and ended up giving both lines of thought. Sorry about that redundancy. The second answer is the one I intended to post but the first is still OK even if it wasn’t checked for errors. It is a sorry truth that we can never stop these mad men. The reason they do what they do never makes sense and trying to make sense of it and make laws based on it never works to do anything but further erode our rights and our privacy. There is a price to pay for freedom. We cannot remove all danger no matter how much we would like too.

SarahP. said:
Glen Beck sells snake oil. It’s sad to see so many naive individuals get sucked up in his bs.

It is a real honor to be attacked by you. It rather means it was a good comment.

Ajolily said:
LOL, I was working on my answer and ended up giving both lines of thought. Sorry about that redundancy. The second answer is the one I intended to post but the first is still OK even if it wasn’t checked for errors. It is a sorry truth that we can never stop these mad men. The reason they do what they do never makes sense and trying to make sense of it and make laws based on it never works to do anything but further erode our rights and our privacy. There is a price to pay for freedom. We cannot remove all danger no matter how much we would like too.

Check please.

Ajolily said:
A crazy question no one understands. Crazy is Crazy and Glenn Becks show had nothing to do with the tragedy in Tucson.

I clearly stated that i did not believe they had anything to do with that tragedy.

Ajolily said:
LOL, I was working on my answer and ended up giving both lines of thought. Sorry about that redundancy. The second answer is the one I intended to post but the first is still OK even if it wasn’t checked for errors. It is a sorry truth that we can never stop these mad men. The reason they do what they do never makes sense and trying to make sense of it and make laws based on it never works to do anything but further erode our rights and our privacy. There is a price to pay for freedom. We cannot remove all danger no matter how much we would like too.

I never suggested making any laws. I simply said I think all of us should be wary of the words we use as they do so often have consequences. I agree with that madmen cannot necessarily be stopped but they don’t need to be given fuel for the fire.

Ajolily said:
Have you not been listening

I could ask you the same ? as far as reading much of what I wrote. Sorry I took up your time. Beckster fans don’t seem to be able discern between honest critizism and curiousness. I guess they take to heart that he says never to trust the left, middle and anything but him. But please do your research.

SarahP. said:
Out of the 15 “operating” threats at any given time – how many are the product of Glen’s vivid and perverted imagination?

Of the 15 threats, how many are from GBR? That dude is obsessed with Beck in a manner similiar to the Tucsan murderer.

MiddleRoader said:
Maybe those are on the nights I’ve missed. I can’t argue that really as I said I don’t listen to him every night. I don’t consider Beck, Limbaugh, pundits on the left as leaders either. But again, Beck comes across to me as he wants to be a leader, leader of a revolution (not necessarily violent revolution) to stop the progressives. But I have never heard of him giving the solution/s. The same I feel about Alex Jones. He’s there spouting all that he does, but he doesn’t give any solutions accept buying survival meals. Well if people are gonna need MRE’s it seems to me he thinks at some point there to be a revolution, heavy overthrow and chaos etc will insue and you might need to live off of those rations. Maybe I’m the retarded one here but this is the jist I get when I listen to both of them.

MiddleRoader said:
But stopped how? IMO Thats where he misses. I think at the end of each show he should say, hold your reps responsible, get them to answer your questions. Something to that affect. A responsible people will do the responsible thing. Obviously reasonable people (which is most in this country) will do the reasonable thing. It only takes one unhinged/mentally deranged person to create a tragedy. I don’t promote the idea of limiting free speech in the form of shutting down Beck or Limbaugh or whomever is bellowing the loudest, but I do think they need, we all need, to be wary, as the congresswoman stated that words have consequences. Do I think Beck, Palin et al mean for people to take up guns and settle the situation that way? No, I don’t, but without providing or reminding of reasonable ways to make change, they leave the door wide open for the unstable. Just as some on the left may as well.

Perhaps I misunderstood the above quote? While you claimed you did not believe they were calling for violence you then posted the above. So which is it? No you did not propose any laws that is me taking it one step further to show the absurdity of trying to address insanity by telling people to put disclaimers on every opinioin. You talk of fuel but I don’t see that we can figure out what that fuel is. As I posted the fuel can be anything for a mad man and no reasonable person will act on the things the political opinion show host say or do. Beck does say to write your congressmen/women but that is what the shooter did first but he didn’t like her answer. Actually I am not a fan of Beck. Go figure. I don’t care for Limbaugh either. But I do think that perhaps your statement that Beckster fans don’t seem to be able discern between honest critizism and curiousness, does make me question your claim to be open minded. Then the cut “Please do your research”? Typical cut when you want to bite back and have nothing to do it with. I don’t recall any of our conversation centering around any “research?”. You made great pains to post we were discussing opinion. You get angry why? Because I said 4 or more times that his primary suggested solution is to vote out progressives but you ignored that part of my comment each time, and then I ask why you were not listening?

Scott_in_MI said:
Of the 15 threats, how many are from GBR? That dude is obsessed with Beck in a manner similiar to the Tucsan murderer.

I’m sure you meant Tucson. And I think you are obsessed with Beck to the point of a life size poster over your bed.

Box of ROX says:’

He is lucky he can afford it.So, when Beck gets shot or killed are you all gonna make a joke about it.Always the same ones here trolling for trouble.

I don’t make a joke out of anyones death. I leave that to BFD and brainstem.

Folks, speaking of threats, just in from a Arizona Town Hall meeting, one of the shooting victims threatened a Tea Party member while he was speaking, and was arrested promptly by law enforcement !! The full story is at:

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/15/20110115gabrielle-giffords-arizona-shooting-tucson-forum.html

Perhaps Mediaite will investigate and do a story on this shortly.

Looks like Frances Martel and Mediaite are on the ball. The story is already in the online section.

Ajolily said:
Then the cut “Please do your research”? Typical cut when you want to bite back and have nothing to do it with. I don’t recall any of our conversation centering around any “research?”. You made great pains to post we were discussing opinion. You get angry why? Because I said 4 or more times that his primary suggested solution is to vote out progressives but you ignored that part of my comment each time, and then I ask why you were not listening?

First I would like to address the research statement.

You were correct we were discussing opinion. No research. I apologize I thought you were a person that followed beck and would know that is what he tells his following to do. Not believe him and do their own research. My qualm with that is a whole other conversation. I won’t get into with you unless you want to.

I also apologize for assuming (and we all know what happens with one assumes) that you were a Beck fan. Which is why my frustration at the end with that comment.

My frustration came about because clearly I stated and truly believe that anything Beck, Palin anyone else has said that I disagree with were NOT responsible in this case. I also stated that I believe the majority of people in this country are not unstable and would not pick up guns to further their cause. You say I did so by saying that the rhetoric caused this. I did not. Simply I think it possibly, not probably could. And I also stated from both sides. I can even see a scenerio that someone unhinged from the left could very possibly (because of this heated debate and trying to place blame, primarily on Palin) might want to payback. Has it happened? Not yet and hopefully not ever. I am only saying that I think it wise for ALL of us to be wary of our words. It’s called personal responsibility. Plain and simple. TV personalities have a bit larger roll in that as their words are transmitted over the airwaves for millions of listeners. As far as us little people. We should take care in what and how we say things in our community. That is all I meant.

Again, I apologize for the snipe. But after these long posts that we both made, I became frustrated.

Beck in the Headline
96 comments so far
no GBR
That has got to be the hardest thing he has
ever done in his life——

Except maybe Potty Training

MiddleRoader said:
..

It was an enjoyable discourse. I still disagree that any political talk has any effect on “mad men” that can in any way be prevented. The scenario that someone unhinged can act off of something said or done is true but anything can set them off. It must be accepted as we accept that tomorrow a plane could land on our house. Like I said it doesn’t take anything more than being asked a question that makes no sense what so ever and not having a clue what the questioner meant by the question and not being able to answer it. That is what set this shooters anger on Gifford. He asked her a question in 2007 and she was not able to answer because the question didn’t make sense. I understand your premise that we can prevent other events this way and just do not agree so we must agree to disagree respectfully. Look forward to the next time we meet on this or any site.

Probably NOT wrong says:
Beck in the Headline
96 comments so far
no GBR
That has got to be the hardest thing he has
ever done in his life——

Except maybe Potty Training

Early lights out at the asylum.

GBR (Bombshell) is probably all of or most of the 15 threats. He just uses different identities like The Real Royal Ass does here.

Who will be blamed when Bombshell goes over the edge goes after Beck? Mediaite? Probably NOT wrong? writer? pablo? notsofast? Seeing 2012? murf? me?

Probably NOT wrong said:
Beck in the Headline
96 comments so far
no GBR
That has got to be the hardest thing he has
ever done in his life——

Except maybe Potty Training

This is a no win thread for GBR, especially after the Arizona incident. A lot of people know him and everyone would jump on him with both feet. He might want attention, but not an all expenses paid trip to a mental health facility courtesy of his fellow posters.

With the the liberal psychosis deepening, the number of threats is probably much greater.

The media covers for the liberals, but the 400+ years of Congressional experience that they lost and the 700+ seats in State houses that the Republicans won must be weighing heavily on their sanity.

James Taranto of the WSJ is posing this: “Theory: Palin-hatred has become more consuming as Obama-worship has given way to disillusion.”

It’s not just Palin, but Glenn too.

…not a good time to be a liberal.

Helix said:
He might want attention, but not an all expenses paid trip to a mental health facility courtesy of his fellow posters.

That would be an excellent outcome, and it would be in keeping with the real lesson of the Tucson tragedy: Make sure crazy people don’t have guns.

SmartAlec said:
GBR (Bombshell) is probably all of or most of the 15 threats. He just uses different identities like The Real Royal Ass does here.

KING on the ropes . HARRUMPH ! See here , my good man . Well , I never .

Will return later as SarahP. Creepy , huh ?

KING up the creek . By the way , Bombshell / GBR is just as sane as I am !

Yes , he is .

No , that’s the real royal truth .

Beck has been speaking in a paranoid style for two years now. It pays him well, so this continued fear expressed by this cowardly and courageous (paradoxical) propagandist is nothing new by any stretch.

The reactionary Alz says:
“…not a good time to be a liberal.”

Really? It’s amazing how people who watch Fox have an understanding of the world that is upside down, ass-backward and inside out. It’s not just me who sees this situation like this.

Arun Gupta writes on Alternet.com:

Hate and Violence Are Encoded in the DNA of the American Right

The Right foments group resentment in increasingly apocalyptic terms, to people in need of easy answers in an era of widespread joblessness and uncertainty.

Jared Loughner’s attempted assassination of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords is a wakeup call for us to confront the reality that hate and violence are encoded in the political DNA of the American Right.

Since Obama took office in January 2009, there have been seven separate cases of disturbed white men committing political murders after becoming hopped up on guns, right-wing media and anti-government and anti-Obama blather. And this doesn’t even include Loughner’s attack or other incidents where the gunman was intent on killing but didn’t succeed.

Compare this with the lack of political violence during the Bush era, when passions were equally inflamed. This stark contrast demands an explanation for why there have been so many political murder sprees in less than two years. The answer can be found within the strain of reactionary politics that dominates the American Right. The Right thrives on mobilizing group resentment, and the range of its targets over the last 50 years is astonishing: gays and lesbians, African Americans, Latinos, feminists, welfare recipients, reproductive-rights activists, Muslims, undocumented immigrants, government officials, criminals, liberals, antiwar activists, organized labor.

The group resentment is fomented and stoked within the right-wing echo chamber, in increasingly apocalyptic terms. With swaths of the public alienated and looking for easy answers in a time of epic joblessness, they latch onto scapegoats that demagogues like Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage provide. As a result millions of alienated Americans are convinced their problems and the national malaise is the fault of Mexicans, liberals, abortion providers and homosexuals. Politicians willing to exploit this hatred can find a large and passionate base. Because extremism stands out in our media-saturated culture, those voices and politicians who are the most outrageous tend to be the most successful. This creates a politics that makes compromise and reasoned discourse all but impossible. Add to that a political system dominated by corporate money, which makes addressing social ills all but impossible, and you have a public seething with anger but with no ready outlet.

In a society awash in guns and a culture enthralled with violence, it becomes inevitable that some on the fringe, mentally and socially, will grab their guns and start blazing away, especially after they have been told society is collapsing and the forces of darkness – as represented by the demonized groups and individuals such as Muslims and Obama – are coming for you. The only surprise is that there haven’t been more Jared Loughners in the last two years.

The series of political murders is appalling, but the greater danger is an organized social expression of the rage. Now, fascism is one of the most-overused terms in American political discourse, and we are a long way from jackbooted thugs kicking down our doors and dragging is off to death camps. But we are in a proto-fascistic moment where forces of reaction – those who seek a hierarchical society based on mythologized notions of traditional identity – are allied with a section of capital and are increasingly willing to use violence to achieve their aims. (By “Right,” I mean reactionary right as I explain below. Others on the Right, such as libertarians, oppose much of the scapegoating and demonization upon that reactionaries thrive.)
Denying that the Right mobilizes group hatred or apportioning blame across the political spectrum – such as the bland MoveOn petition calling for all Congress members and TV pundits to end “all overt and implied threats of violence” or Keith Olbermann’s “we need to put the gun metaphors away and permanently. Left, right, middle” – only lets the Right off the hook for instigating violence.

The day after the shooting, the New York Times wrote, “extremism, antigovernment sentiment and even simple political passion at both ends of the ideological spectrum have created a climate promoting violence.” This false equivalence, prevalent throughout much of the “liberal media,” also gives cover to the Right’s violent rhetoric because it can always claim the Left is to blame as well. Right-wing pundits and politicians may briefly “tone it down,” even as they lament the bombast on the “other side,” but the hate will come back with a vengeance, just as it did after Oklahoma City because mobilizing resentment is the modus operandi of the reactionary Right.

Imagine how the Right would have reacted during the Bush presidency if:

After Keith Olbermann attacks the Heritage Foundation on his show 29 separate times, a “conservative hunter” and Olbermann fan engages in a shootout with D.C. police with three separate firearms and a “small arsenal of ammunition.” After being captured, he says “his intention was to start a revolution by killing people of importance at the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society.”

A black nationalist in Pittsburgh fearing the Bush administration is going to ban guns and set up FEMA internment camps shoots to death three police officers.

A socialist and 9-11 conspiracy theorist shoots and wounds two guards at the Pentagon.

An antiwar activist flies a small plane into a U.S. military installation, killing an Army officer and leaving behind a manifesto that blames weapons makers, warmongers and imperialists for killing millions in Bush’s wars while the “American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year.”

Many more examples could be added, but the point is, the Right would be calling for “real Americans” to hunt down and kill leftists, and the Bush administration would probably have charged liberal pundits with “material support for terrorism.”
That’s why Jared Loughner’s politics are largely beside the point. He appears more deranged than political, though his ramblings do hit right-wing hot-button ideas of anti-government, treason against the constitution and a gold-backed currency. What’s more relevant is that the massacre is just the latest one in the Obama era and that his intended target, Giffords, was a woman, Jewish, in favor of the health care bill, opposed to Arizona’s racial profiling law and a Democrat. Every one of these groups and issues are targets of various sectors of the Right.

The Birthplace of Left and Right

The roots of right-wing political violence go back 200 years to the French Revolution. That was the birthplace of Left and Right, and the conflict between those seeking a radically democratic and egalitarian society versus reactionaries, those desiring a society based on tradition and hierarchy. In the early 19th century, reactionaries favored the church, the king, the aristocracy and property, today they are for patriotism, Christianity (with a few exceptions), the free market and class, white, male and heterosexual privileges. Over the last two centuries, the Right has always mobilized group resentment and difference based on these various categories.

A recent example is the “Ground Zero Mosque” hysteria, a case study in the reactionary Right promoting group hatred that ends in violence. In the New York Review of Books last August, two historians described how the imagery used to whip up today’s anti-Islamic fervor is disturbingly similar to the anti-Catholic nativism among American Protestants in the 19th century. “For much of the nineteenth century Catholics in America were the unassimilated, sometimes violent ‘religious other.’ Often they did not speak English or attend public schools. Some of their religious women—nuns—wore distinctive clothing. Their religious practices and beliefs—from rosaries to transubstantiation—seemed to many Americans superstitious nonsense.”

But it’s not history alone. There is organization and planning, in this case the deliberate stoking of anti-Muslim nativism by the Right. Max Blumenthal connected the dots between various right-wing funders, organizations, leaders and activists, concluding, “the Islamophobic crusade … now belongs to leading Republican presidential candidates, top-rated cable news hosts, and crowds of Tea Party activists.” And as the bigoted fervor peaked before Sept. 11 last year, so did the violence from a stabbing of a Muslim cabdriver in New York City to arson, bomb and vandalism on mosques and mosque sites in Tennessee, Texas and Florida.

Also notable is the vitriol against the LGBT community – equating homosexuality with pedophilia, claiming gays try to “recruit” children, downplaying anti-gay violence, stating “Homosexuality gave us Adolph Hitler,” and even calling for the execution of gays – that is a staple of Christian Right groups such as the American Family Association, Traditional Values Coalition, Family Research Council and Concerned Women for America, all of which find a welcome home inside the GOP’s big tent. This rhetoric quickly finds its way into the right-wing echo chamber whether in Rush Limbaugh’s bigotry, Michael Savage’s venom or Fox News in general, which is fond of equating homosexuality with pedophilia. Finding a wedge issue, right-wing politicians pile on with more gay-bashing. On a campaign swing through Brooklyn last October, the Republicans’ New York gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino warned that children are being “brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option.” Paladino’s comments were especially heinous coming on the heels three separate incidents of anti-gay violence in New York City.

The Right reflexively denies responsibility for creating a culture of violence and hate even as its most prominent pundits and politicians continue to do so. Of course, the same standard is never applied to Muslims charged with trying to carry out violent attacks on U.S. soil. Juan Cole points out that “right-wing Muslim crackpots and the right-wing American crackpots are haunted by similar anxieties,” so it’s time to start using the term “white terrorism” to refer to these attacks.

Other than Muslims, Latino immigrants are on the receiving end of more right-wing vituperation than anyone else, which also bleeds over into deadly violence. As the issue of immigration across the U.S.-Mexico border heated up in recent years, the right-wing media was aflame with caustic rhetoric while the FBI logged a 53 percent rise in hate crimes against Hispanics from 2003 to 2009. In 2007, Lou Dobbs Tonight, the O’Reilly Factor and Glenn Beck discussed illegal immigration on a stupendous 402 shows combined. Much of it was outright demagoguery: talk of an “illegal alien crime wave” that never existed, falsehoods claiming undocumented immigrants consume more in services than they provide in taxes, and conspiracy theories about a North American Union and secret “Reconquista” plans for Mexico to reclaim the Southwest.

The dehumanizing rhetoric in the right-wing media was (and is) buttressed with terms like invasion, disease, plague and cancer when referring to the immigrants. The link to violence is even clearer as Lou Dobbs lionized white supremacists like the Federation for American Immigration Reform and militias like the Minuteman Project. In 2007, Dobbs prominently backed a sweeping law against undocumented immigrants in Hazleton, Pennsylvania. Fourteen months later and just 20 miles from Hazleton, Luis Ramirez, a 25-year-old Mexican, was murdered by teenagers who yelled racial slurs and “this is America, go back to Mexico” as they kicked him to death. According to a New York Times report, “Many people believe the debate fueled by Hazleton’s actions helped create the environment that led to Mr. Ramirez’s death.”
Left and Right Are Not Equivalent

A second reason for a wake-up call is to dispense with the idiocy that the Left and Right are equivalent, which was the premise of Jon Stewart’s “Rally to Restore Sanity.” Sure, there are plenty of nutty leftists who believe the Bush administration carried out the 9-11 attacks, but none (or even all combined) have a smidgen of the power or influence of the hundreds of right-wing politicians and pundits who are birthers or call Obama a socialist. During the Bush presidency, was there even one case of a liberal going on a political murder rampage in eight years? How about one example of a leftist carrying a gun at a Bush rally – where people were routinely arrested for the content of their T-shirts – unlike the dozen men who openly packed heat at an Obama rally in Arizona or the individual outside an Obama event in New Hampshire with a pistol strapped to his leg totting a sign threatening, “It is time to water the tree of Liberty”?

Likewise, a random blog posting by an unknown liberal (the “dead to me” comment about Giffords that the Daily Kos removed and which is now ricocheting around the right-wing echo chamber) is of minuscule significance next to Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Jonah Goldberg, Cal Thomas, Michael Savage and many other right-wing mouthpieces constantly comparing Obama to Hitler, painting bleak visions of social collapse, fomenting revolutionendlessly and calling on their followers to “grab your guns.” It is no wonder that from 2008 to 2009 the number of conspiracist and antigovernment Patriot groupssoared from 149 to 512 and the number of militias from 42 to 127.

Glenn Beck in particular loves to talk about history, but you will never find him delivering a honest appraisal of the history of the Americas since Columbus: the genocide of indigenous peoples, the countless millions of Africans who perished in the middle passage or under chattel slavery, the repeated pogroms against Asians, Mexicans and blacks in the 19th and 20th century. David Neiwert, in his book The Eliminationists, recaps much of this history from the deliberate extermination of Native peoples over nearly 400 years to the few survivors who still live under appalling conditions, mainly in the Western U.S. There is the post-Civil War history of KKK terror, 1,322 documented lynchings from just 1890-1902,repeated incidents of deadly ethnic cleansing of Black enclaves in Midwestern and Southern towns in the early 20th century, and the vicious white backlash in the Civil Rights era. Neiwert also writes of little-known instances of anti-Asian violence in the late 19th century that precede the internment of some 120,000 Japanese-Americans during World War Two.

Neiwert argues these are all examples of “eliminationism” – “a politics and a culture that shuns dialogue and the democratic exchange of ideas in favor of the pursuit of outright elimination of the opposing side, either through suppression, exile and ejection, or extermination.” He adds, “Eliminationism has become an endemic feature of modern movement conservatism …. It shows itself as an unwillingness to argue the facts or merits of issues and to demand outright the suppression or violent oppression (and ultimately the purgation) of elements deemed harmful to American society.” Ground zero for eliminationist rhetoric is the right-wing media, where comments about “poisoning Pelosi,” fantasizing about “killing Michael Moore,” telling listeners they should “shoot…dead” 9-11 conspiracy theorists, “don’t kill all the liberals, leave…two on every campus; living fossils,” and much, much more.

The atrocities committed throughout U.S. history often enjoyed broad public support, but they were not without active opposition. As a nation, we still continue to battle over these crimes, and one can usually find the Right trying to justify, sanitize or deny them. A small sampling includes Mississippi Republican Governor Haley Barbour fondly remembering the White Citizens Councils, which were the middle-class Klan in the 1950s. A few months ago Rush Limbaugh downplayed the genocide of Native Americans asking, where are the white man’s reparations for being introduced to tobacco? In 2006, Glenn Beck invoked the internment of Japanese-Americans in warning that Muslims will be put behind “razor wire” if they aren’t “the first ones in the recruitment office lining up to shoot the bad Muslims in the head.”

And last year, the eve of the 150th anniversary of the start of the Civil War, was marked by Republican governors issuing proclamations marking April as “Confederate History Month” while excluding mention of slavery.

The Right’s relation to reality is so tenuous that it still tries to maintain the Civil War was an issue of “states’ rights” and Republican politicians are still talking secession or asserting states’ rights in opposing the Obama health care plan. What most on the right want to forget is that five of the 11 Southern states that seceded cited preserving the institution of slavery as their reason in revolting against the Union. The right’s denial of atrocities over hundreds of years of history is matched by its denial of the political violence over the last two.

There is one more key component to the violence this time: a culture that glorifies guns and violence. Need we be reminded how gun stores reported a doubling or tripling of sales right after Obama’s 2008 election?

When you add it all up the right-wing violence was all too predictable. The Department of Homeland Security’s April 2009 rather tepid report on “Rightwing Extremism” – which was met by howls of outrage from conservative pundits – described how the threat of “violent attacks” was increasing due to “the prolonged economic downturn,” “the election of the first African American president,” the possibility of firearms restrictions and the recruitment of returning military vets by right-wing extremists.

The report, which DHS quickly retracted, concluded “lone wolf extremists” in particular posed a grave danger and came chillingly true to life in mere months. In May, 2009, abortion provider George Tiller was murdered in his Wichita, Kansas church by an anti-abortion extremist (years earlier Tiller had been shot in both arms by another anti-abortion activist and had his clinic bombed); in June, neo-Nazi and white supremacist James Von Brunn killed a security guard at the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C.; and in July, unemployed truck driver Jim Adkisson killed two and wounded seven in a shotgun attack on the congregation of a Unitarian Universalist church in Knoxville, Tenn., leaving behind a note stating his “hatred of the liberal movement…as well as gays.”

These killings were an overture to the town-hall rage during the health care debate in the summer of 2009 and occurred as the Secret Service was overwhelmed by the nearly 1,000 death threats a month against President Obama.

There is a third reason why the Arizona massacre should be a wake-up call. The Right’s response showcases the shopworn tactics it uses to avoid responsibility. Top of the list is for politicians to declaim cultivating an atmosphere of violence. Palin’s crosshairs on Giffords were just “a surveyor’s symbol,” and don’t mention that “Don’t Retreat, Instead – RELOAD!” tweet following passage of the health care bill last March and the subsequent rash of violence and threats against at least four of Palin’s targets, including Giffords. Ignore how Giffords’ opponent staged a “target for victory” campaign event to “remove” her from office while offering constituents a chance to fire a “fully automatic M16.” Conveniently forget about Michele Bachmann telling her constituents to be “armed and dangerous,” Michael Steele calling for Nancy Pelosi to be put on the “firing line,” and Sharron Angle suggesting “Second Amendment remedies.”

Certainly rhetoric like this had nothing to do with the Tea Party mob on Capitol Hill last year yelling racial and anti-gay slurs at Congress members during the health care vote or the 300 percent increase in threats against members of Congress in early 2010, much of it coming from gun nuts OD’ing on right-wing media, and mostly against Democrats.

Another tactic is to obfuscate how the perpetrators of violence are tied to the Right by painting them as leftists no matter how thin the evidence. If that doesn’t work try turning the tables, such as Erick Erickson did, by writing that “by perpetuating the lie…that the Right and the Tea Party incited this evil act, the Left and media may very well incite violence against the Right.” Also, the alleged killer was “a disturbed individual whose act cannot be explained by relating it to politics or any rational motive.” If all else fails, decry “the politicization of tragedy.”

If anything, the tragedy was the result of the reactionary Right’s politics of demonizing the other. The time has come to attack the Right, not with guns, but with words and ideas to expose its destructive and deadly politics.

GlennBeckReview said:
Beck has been speaking in a paranoid style for two years now. It pays him well, so this continued fear expressed by this cowardly and courageous (paradoxical) propagandist is nothing new by any stretch.

You do realize…no one reads or believes your crap except for you and your 29 followers….or is it 28!

Martel wrote, “Beck seemed to agree, modestly, that he was one of the more hated figures in political media, and gave up data on why: ‘I have 15 operating threats on me at any given time.’ ”

Beck has said lots of things over the years that have been shown to have no basis in reality. His mother committed suicide: false. To quote the journalist and collaborator looking into Beck’s past:

“Glenn Beck loves to share the details of his early days growing up in Mt. Vernon and Bellingham, Washington.

He won a local radio contest, sponsored by KBRC radio, when he was just 13, that gave him his first experience behind a microphone. Also when he was 13, his alcoholic mother, divorced from his father, committed suicide. An unnamed stepbrother took his own life around the same time. The grief that the young Beck endured led to his heavy use of marijuana and therapy “with Dr. Jack Daniels.” At age 15 he landed his first paid gig with KUBE radio in Seattle. He took the Greyhound Bus from his home in Bellingham, 90 miles south, for the weekend job, and would sleep on the floor of the KUBE conference room between shifts.

It’s a compelling series of events except for one minor problem: None of it is true.”

This guy has a problem with supposed “journalists,” including even Alex Zaitchik, author of Common Nonsense: Glenn Beck and the Triumph of Ignorance, who pass on things that Beck claims without fact checking Beck.

Those here, who are accusing me of being a threat to Glenn Beck are expressing profound ignorance about the answer to my question: What is the truth about Glenn Beck? (It’s summarized in one word: “Amen.”)

Of course, if there is one word that neatly and accurately defines Beck’s followers, it is IGNORANT.
If there is one word that neatly and accurately defines Glenn Beck (there isn’t), it would be LIAR.
If there is one word that neatly and accurate describes the reporters who cover Beck, it is LAZY.

Frances Martel: do your homework. Just because Beck claims that he has “15 operating threats on” him at any given time: don’t believe it. Let’s start with the obvious, collectible data. How many acts of violence have been targeted at Glenn Beck? ZERO.

Good Lord Batboy, Reduce that number to 1. Bombshell hisownself.
I beleive that might have been the longest comment in the
history of the Mediaite Comment Section.
I got by first two lines before my hair started hurting before I had to give it up.
I’ll bet Becks Security read it though

BatBoy says:
“You do realize…no one reads or believes your crap except for you and your 29 followers….or is it 28!”

According to my blog statistics, I had 572 hits on The Glenn Beck Review yesterday alone, so let me repeat: if there is one word that neatly and accurately defines Beck’s followers, it is IGNORANT.

GlennBeckReview said:
, I had 572 hits on The Glenn Beck Review yesterday

KING backing out of the room . And 500 of them were from the FBI . just researching local whackjobs . Full moon last night ?

GlennBeckReview said:
According to my blog statistics, I had 572 hits

And do you know that was 572 times he had to get on and off line at the local Library to do it. He’s Glenn Beck Review and even people at Huff-Po laugh at him.

And if there’s one word to describe you it’s Jack-Ass.

Probably NOT wrong said:
Good Lord Batboy

I would just like to say that putting Batboy & this yutz in the same sentence is a total insult to Batboy.

GlennBeckReview said:
BatBoy says:“You do realize…no one reads or believes your crap except for you and your 29 followers….or is it 28!” According to my blog statistics, I had 572 hits on The Glenn Beck Review yesterday alone, so let me repeat: if there is one word that neatly and accurately defines Beck’s followers, it is IGNORANT.

I think that was 570 DINGs and 2 DONGS

puck30 said:
I would just like to say that putting Batboy & this yutz in the same sentence is a total insult to Batboy.

My very sincere apologies to Batboy

Probably NOT wrong said:
I’ll bet Becks Security read it though

Yes they did! But they also found out that his Mom won’t drive him to Manhattan and since GBR never had a job he can’t afford a Greyhound Bus ticket.

GlennBeckReview said:
The reactionary Alz says:
“…not a good time to be a liberal.”

Really? It’s amazing how people who watch Fox have an understanding of the world that is upside down, ass-backward and inside out. It’s not just me who sees this situation like this.

Yes, things are upside down for exactly the reasons I keep saying: the two sides are very different – at the core. We have two different belief systems.

We want things better and you guys want things ‘equal”. There is some overlap, but your way of thinking is upside down because you have to try to minimize getting better and success.

Many (but not all) of our problems are due to your abnormal thinking. In short, “equal” is not better.

Imagine if Bombshell was obsessive at all .

GlennBeckReview said:
It’s not just me who sees this situation like this.

It’s Alternet too! See?

BTW, GBR, your blog is a hot mess chock full of hate and wait for it…incitement. You’re what you claim Beck is X1000, with the blessed exception being that Beck has a very large audience and you are a big fat nobody. (#3,237,289, to be specific) You and everything you write are dripping with unmistakable hatred. Don’t shoot anybody, GBR and stop trying to get Glenn Beck murdered.

GlennBeckReview said:
Jared Loughner’s attempted assassination of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords is a wakeup call for us to confront the reality that hate and violence are encoded in the political DNA of the American Right.

Typical crap from the left. Your insane GBR. Is this how you get your followers. Fill them full of vile crap and then say only the right does it. Oh ya, encoded in our DNA.

I like how the left talks their hate speech while telling everyone it’s encoded in the right’s DNA. So how is this hate thing you have with Glenn working out? Is this encoded in your DNA?

You have more hate in your little finger than I have in my whole body.

Basically, this what the left wants. They want the right to tone down “rhetoric” while they rash-it-up. Their real goal is to label any dissenting view as hate speech and violence rhetoric. If they can, they will stop out right all dissenting views as illegal. Basically turn us into a Marxist State.

But all in balance you are probably hurting your cause more than you are helping. It’s actually people like you that are actually helping the conservative cause. You are just as over the top as you say Glenn is.

GBR’s favorite word, reactionary.

puck30 says:

“He’s Glenn Beck Review and even people at Huff-Po laugh at him.”

So THAT explains the 230+ fans I have there.

The Ignorant Pablo the Plebe says:
“BTW, GBR, your blog is a hot mess chock full of hate”

From About the Blogger there:

“I hate the time I’m losing to more entertaining fun such as the NBA Finals or enlightening activities such as reading, but I love the challenge that I’ve given myself. Researching and writing this blog is distasteful enjoyment. I don’t hate Glenn Beck; he is the nearly perfect straw man. Beck is contemptible, but he’s not evil in my view.”

To paraphrase Christopher Hayes, “Ignorance much?” Pablo the Plebe, you’re either full of hatred toward me and my effort to unmask Beck to show his real side, i.e., liar, hypocrite, charlatan, fear-monger and disloyal dissenter; or you’re just another ignorant follower of Glenn Beck. You come by your hypocrisy and/or ignorance “honestly.”

Try, dillweed, to address my claims instead of proving my accusation that you are a plebeian. Plebeians engage in ad hominem attacks; honest conservatives like Reihan Salam engage in serious, CIVIL discussions. Olbermann may not bring on guests who strongly disagree with him, but Chris Hayes has the intellectual capacity to hold his own. Try civility for a damn change…if you think you have the moral capacity. (So far you haven’t shown a hint of civility or ethics Pablo, the lying and ignorant plebe.)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/#41084098

GlennSittingOnABombshellReview – bankrupting Glenn Beck one security guard at a time.

GlennBeckReview said:
The Ignorant Pablo the Plebe says:
“BTW, GBR, your blog is a hot mess chock full of hate”

From About the Blogger there:

Yeah, Pablo, but look what I said about me! How about THAT, Mister?

GBR, you’re sick in the head. End of story.

Probably NOT wrong said:
I think that was 570 DINGs and 2 DONGS

I could have been wrong.
It may have been 570 DONGS and 2 DINGS!

It feels like this whole call to tone down all the rhetoric is the same thing plaguing our public schools. Let’s take everything we say, or any point we try and mak

Stupid iPad, didn’t let me finish. Any point we try and make needs to be put through a filter so the most unstable around us will not take it as a call to action, and do something stupid. It is the same as teaching at the level of the slowest student, so everyone else in the class has to learn at that pace. There are very strong feelings on both sides right now, as there should be. There is a huge difference in calling for violence, and passionately defending someone’s views on policy. We have already seen the debate turn from substantial policy and ideological debate to “who’s more of a hate monger”. Reflection, especially in a time of crisis, is a good thing. Unfortunately we are not getting any.

For Glenn Beck’s sake, I hope GlennBombshellReview is a terrible shot.

From Crooks and Liars:

“And the more I think about it, the more the daily rants from Glenn Beck start to eerily resemble Loughner’s YouTube offerings.”

Glenn Beck has already inspired more violence than anyone has even considered against him!

GlennBeckReview said:
From Crooks and Liars:

“And the more I think about it, the more the daily rants from Glenn Beck start to eerily resemble Loughner’s YouTube offerings.”

Glenn Beck has already inspired more violence than anyone has even considered against him!

This is why it’s very hard to take you seriously.

GlennBeckReview said:
From Crooks and Liars:

“And the more I think about it, the more the daily rants from Glenn Beck start to eerily resemble Loughner’s YouTube offerings.”

Glenn Beck has already inspired more violence than anyone has even considered against him!

I suspect you’ve considered far more violence than Beck could have possibly inspired.

Pablo the Plebe says:
“I suspect you’ve considered far more violence than Beck could have possibly inspired.”

First, three cops are dead thanks, in part, to Beck. Another man had a shoot-out with the CHP exclusively because of Beck. Third, Beck inspired Gregory Lee Giusti who threated to burn Pelosi’s house down.

Second, again, I have it right in my little bio that I don’t hate Beck. What’s blocking your basic understanding Pablo? Stupidity or just a reactionary bias that won’t allow your mind to be opened to the facts?

Third, you never, like every other one of Beck’s moronic reactionary sycophants on here, address my claims. No, your knee-jerk, reactionary response is to attack me personally. SOS; DD.

Alz says:
“This is why it’s very hard to take you seriously.”

Because I quote someone from Crooks and Liars? You, too, are just another of Beck’s moronic reactionary sycophants. Challenge my words or be exposed time and again as a shallow reactionary unfit for civil discussion.

I know why you can’t take on my accusations against Beck; I’m correct. Beck is a liar, a hypocrite and an uneducated charlatan. When anyone on here can even attempt to disprove that, I’ll REALLY start having fun.

The metamorphosis is complete. GBR has gone from commenting on Beck, to writing entire manifestos.

GlennBeckReview said:
Pablo the Plebe says:“I suspect you’ve considered far more violence than Beck could have possibly inspired.” First, three cops are dead thanks, in part, to Beck. Another man had a shoot-out with the CHP exclusively because of Beck. Third, Beck inspired Gregory Lee Giusti who threated to burn Pelosi’s house down. Second, again, I have it right in my little bio that I don’t hate Beck. What’s blocking your basic understanding Pablo? Stupidity or just a reactionary bias that won’t allow your mind to be opened to the facts? Third, you never, like every other one of Beck’s moronic reactionary sycophants on here, address my claims. No, your knee-jerk, reactionary response is to attack me personally. SOS; DD. Alz says:“This is why it’s very hard to take you seriously.” Because I quote someone from Crooks and Liars? You, too, are just another of Beck’s moronic reactionary sycophants. Challenge my words or be exposed time and again as a shallow reactionary unfit for civil discussion. I know why you can’t take on my accusations against Beck; I’m correct. Beck is a liar, a hypocrite and an uneducated charlatan. When anyone on here can even attempt to disprove that, I’ll REALLY start having fun.

DING DONG!! DING DONG!!
or is it
DONG DING?? DONG DING??

They’re coming to take you away!! HEE HEE
Theyr’e coming to take you away!! HO!! HO
They’re coming to take you awaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

Since Bombshell learned the word “reactionary” he uses it more
than ‘You Know” during an after post Super Bowl Interview.

Most weak minded people hate anything they don’t understand.

SmartAlec said:
GlennSittingOnABombshellReview – bankrupting Glenn Beck one security guard at a time.

Hilarious.

GlennBeckReview said:
Pablo the Plebe says:
“I suspect you’ve considered far more violence than Beck could have possibly inspired.”

First, three cops are dead thanks, in part, to Beck. Another man had a shoot-out with the CHP exclusively because of Beck. Third, Beck inspired Gregory Lee Giusti who threated to burn Pelosi’s house down.

Second, again, I have it right in my little bio that I don’t hate Beck. What’s blocking your basic understanding Pablo? Stupidity or just a reactionary bias that won’t allow your mind to be opened to the facts?

Third, you never, like every other one of Beck’s moronic reactionary sycophants on here, address my claims. No, your knee-jerk, reactionary response is to attack me personally. SOS; DD.

Alz says:
“This is why it’s very hard to take you seriously.”

First, think of your keyboard as a shovel and this thread as a giant GBR eating hole. To explain as nicely as I can, there is a movie script playing in everyone else’s head, ” GBR=Jared Loughner, GBR =Eric Fuller, GBR hates GB, GBR buys gun and ammo, GBR shoots GB. Film at 11.” Whether this is fair or accurate or not, is not the point. You are not breaking through this image with a hovertank or or other military vehicle, let alone your words.

Second, with a current 0.0 rating in the social credibility dept, you can post 1000 times that you don’t hate Beck and are non-violent. It may even be true. There was a Greek prophet called Cassandra with a similar social rating. Think about how many people listened to Cassandra.

Third, there is a time and a place for making a stand and a time and a place for running away. If your fellow posters are willing to listen, a logical argument might convince some of them. If no one is listening, how far will an argument of any kind get you? Do not assume that your fellow posters are logical, kind, and caring individuals, including myself. That’s my definition of insanity. If it makes you feel better, think of the rest of us as poo-flinging jabbering monkeys with keyboards.

Beck is a liar and scum, so I can see how he would get threats, however if there was much to it at all, (which I’m sure most of it is a lie) Beck would have these people jailed and would be calling them liberals, all over “Fox”, thats how you can tell it’s a another lie!

timcajun says:
“… if there was much to it at all, (which I’m sure most of it is a lie) Beck would have these people jailed….”

Or at least arrested or interviewed. It’s amazing how “journalists” here keep repeating Beck’s claims without asking for any proof from this habitual liar.

Helix says:

” If it makes you feel better, think of the rest of us as poo-flinging jabbering monkeys with keyboards.”

Actually, spineless sock-puppet, ignorant and gullible reactionaries works quite well. That explains the baseless and frankly stupid ad hominem attacks on me that never, never, NEVER address the lies and hypocrisies of Glenn Beck.

I take that back. Gordon the blowhard with a show, tried to argue that I had facts wrong about Beck’s gold coin investments (over-priced) and that Beck’s show on Fox is a money loser. I wiped the floor with his claims. On the former, call Goldline; they will admit as much. On the latter, see: http://stopbeck.com/2010/08/06/murdoch-dismisses-glenn-becks-advertiser-loss-advances-demonstrable-falsehood/

I have challenged Beck’s followers to prove my accusations of deceit against Beck wrong. Nine months later, no one, not even the invited News Busters, have made successfully accepted that challenge.

Bear that in mind as readers see the reactionary, spineless attacks on me personally.

I have challenged Beck’s followers to prove my accusations of deceit against Beck wrong. Nine months later, no one, not even the invited News Busters, have made successfully accepted that challenge.

You’ve been throttled repeatedly with the facts, GBR. That you ignore it does not make it not exist. Why don’t you link to a few of your (on topic) arguments here that have gone unchallenged?

Beck has stated that Van Jones is a communist many times, and it has been a lie every time. What makes you think that anything Beck claims is based in facts? Beck is a proven liar, not just once, but over and over and over. (Those examples just scrap the surface of Beck’s massive deceptions.) When someone is proven to be a habitual liar, it doesn’t matter if the combination of ignorance and biased assimilation of his adoring fans can’t hear or understand that he lies. Fact is that Beck routinely lies. It doesn’t matter if Beck CLAIMS his security company tells him that they’re tracking threats, IT NEEDS TO BE PROVEN! Otherwise, “reporters” are just repeating what is more than likely more lies coming from Glenn Beck.

Nonetheless, the reactionary defender of dishonesty, Pablo says:
“You’ve been throttled repeatedly with the facts, GBR.”

Emotions have no place in media criticism or criticism in general. It’s why, sock-puppet newbie here, I have DEFENDED Beck in comments. When someone comments that Beck is stupid or dumb, I DEFEND BECK’S IQ (as average).

One again, you’re accusing me of lying about Beck with no proof, nothing to point to. That is just another idiotic, baseless ad hominem attack that stems from the fact that you cannot defend Beck’s honesty or honor. On some level, those attacking me personally know that Beck is a liar and they CANNOT defend this dishonorable demagogue. I CHALLENGE YOU: accept my challenge. If you can find where I have anything wrong about my facts that show just how Beck lies (white lies, typical lies and whoppers), then show me. If I have my facts wrong, I’ll update the post to that effect. Otherwise, you’re just another gullible follower of the leading reactionary propagandist of the 21st Century and an apologist for his habit of lying to you, not all the time, but regularly.

Pablo says:
“You’ve been throttled repeatedly with the facts, GBR. That you ignore it does not make it not exist.”

Name one example of where I have something wrong about Beck. Just one! That you make this baseless assertion does not make it fact.

It’s so weird: when my wife listens to Beck, she gets “an overwhelming feeling of evil.” I asked her why, and she said that she could tell that he is a liar by HOW he speaks.

I’m more empirical and philosophically trained. Beck lies and we prove this day after day. I have a long list of posts detailing Beck’s false claims, and I don’t post nearly all the ones I know about. I have a large unused file detailing many of Beck’s lies.

Beck is on the wrong side of history again, but — not surprising — he was on the side of democracy in the Middle East in support of Bush’s war of choice against Iraq. He hasn’t changed his mind: Glenn Beck is a hypocrite through and through. I prove this with facts and logic over and over again. And this begs the question: why does Beck has such a large following?

Yes, he’s persuasive and cunning and gifted. He’s also highly skilled at manipulating his viewers; Beck is a master manipulator. Why else would more of his followers not hear the lies I could detect before starting The Glenn Beck Review. He programs his viewers to dismiss any and all criticism of him, no matter how factual and unbiased, no matter how honest. This has led me to a recent re-evaluation of his intellect as of late. He’s still ignorant about the world, but he’s very bright, clever, gifted, persuasive and intelligent. It’s taken a while to see that, but the link about his manipulation skills forced me into rethinking just how smart he is.

It’s still all about Glenn Beck. His motivations, according to Beck’s biographer, Alex Zaitchik, “are, and have always been, money and fame. If Beck has a true religion, it’s not Patriotism. It’s not Mormonism. It’s cross-platform self-marketing.” Those who do not grasp this about him, can not hear his lies or hypocrisies, do not recognize that this uneducated, ignorant man is a charlatan and yellow propagandist, are victims more than they are supporters. They are to be pitied, not respected.

Only 15, really, I thought it would at least be in the hundreds. Oh, thats right, it’s the republicans who have the larger fear center in their brains.