Ron Paul suggests that the effected local governments should pay for that.

The tea party suggests that the effected people simply barter their drown chickens to pay for any needed medical care.

Progressives suggest the feds pay for it immediately, and ask Exxon to reimburse it out of a portion of their last quarter earnings.

Dear god a Republican that talks with some sense? I’m beginning to love this man.

The wallet is closed Governor Chrisma… Pre FEMA we’ve had disasters forever. I know,I’m Jersey born. We also had a very successful mostly “volunteer” Civil Defense program where towns and residents took “responsibility” for their own preparedness and clean up. We weren’t New Orleans. That was the American way.

It kills me that repubs are all about the government when it affects them and their future in politics…they will bring the country down to defeat President Obama…They are sickening…Just like the whole debacle about the President and Congress…Grow Up republicans and put the country first for once….unstead of yourselves and your hatred of Obama…..

That’s not true. Pre-FEMA, SBA loans were made available to businesses and to individuals for rebuilding their homes. Routinely, those loans were forgiven. Also, Pre-FEMA, the federales provided a highly subsidized flood insurance program. 

That’s not true. Pre-FEMA, SBA loans were made available to businesses and to individuals for rebuilding their homes. Routinely, those loans were forgiven. Also, Pre-FEMA, the federales provided a highly subsidized flood insurance program. 

Even allowing for survival instincts and self-interest, Christie shown himself less of an arsonist that most of the Teapublicans.

Old Chubby Christy, flips & flops: “Gimme waffles; no pancakes. Cane syrup; no, maple. Bacon; no, sausage”. This corpulent blob can’t ever be President.

Wait is Christie for BIG Government?  FEMA is BIG Government.  Government just squanders money and takes it from hard workers.  Sorry Chris, Republicans agree across the board this is exactly the waste we need to cut.  Tell Jersey to suck it up – they voted Republican with you right.  Well I have zero sympathy for Jersey – if they want ‘conservative’ politics let them live by what they believe.  Why take hand-outs?

Now if you want the government to help you then vote for politicians that do not hate and want to dismantle every part of government (other than ‘Defense’).

btw dont Republicans consider ‘ People suffering and need help now’ as liberal code for ‘lets take from working americans and “Job Creators” and give it to deadbeats?”

they can’t afford it, dingo.

oh, and it’s “affected,” not effected.

Affected. Drowned.

sounds good to me!

let me be the first to call Chris Christie a RINO.

It is so funny how the “big Government” bashers cry like little children when they are in need of help. Screw you Christie ha ha ha… That is what you get for being a Republican. Take care of your own problems, that is the Republican mantra. Cry a little louder Chris… It fits you so well.

Were you in Jersey in 1999 when Floyd put the Raritan River into New Brunswick?
http://osec.rutgers.edu/cool/education/spring2000/louisb/page2.html

”
Eight of the state’s 21 counties, accounting for more than half the
state’s population of 8.4 million at the time, were declared disaster
areas: Bergen, Essex, Mercer, Middlesex, Morris, Passaic, Somerset and
Union.

The damage from Floyd was estimated between $4.5 billion and $6
billion, including $250 million in New Jersey and close to $100 million
each in Bound Brook and Manville.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/09/ten_years_after_hurricane_floy.html

How many  and what kind of “volunteers” does one need to deal with water 10 feet deep downtown?
How many bake sales and 50-50 raffles will you have to hold to raise $100 million dollars for a small town? (we’re not even talking about $6 billion statewide yet.)

 The difference between Floyd and Irene in Bound Brook, NJ this year?  INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING.

“”The (Raritan) river level was at or maybe more than Hurricane Floyd.
The difference here is because of the flood control project, there are
only pockets of places flooding in Bound Brook,” Pilato said. In 1999,
“we almost instantaneously lost one quarter of the town.”

$330 million dollar Flood Protection Project…and although there was still some flooding in Bound Brook, it was no where NEAR what Floyd was. 

Manville–without a Flood project?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6b54bZepoA&feature=related

What are “Citizen” volunteers going to accomplish that the National Guard cannot?

–Cobra

Yep!  It’s amazing how people are willing to posit anecdotal conjecture as evidence.

Using Tea Party criteria, Ronald Reagan was a RINO.

The insanity of unnecessary Congress bureaucracy continues. When will people understand the pointless of it. I suppose we may respond and pay attention when we have several natural disasters occur.

Christie has now become a RINO!

You’re a poster child of why Democrats can’t be trusted with governmental power.

They instantly politicize it.

Troll on.

Great post!

Annnd this is why I’ve never got excited over Christie.

He has an entitlement mentality to federal aid.

I mean, how is that any different, really, than any other entitlement.

We all “pay in” and want it back but there isn’t enough to do that.

Thanks for this information. Your reasoning is thoroughly sound.

By Tea Bagger criteria. disagreeing with their agenda 5 percent of the time makes a politician a RINO or even worse, a Commie socialist..

Not a sound strategy for their movement being successful in the long term. Creates serious resentments. Not pragmatic in the least.

The Tea Party revolution eats its young!  The Reign of Terror will backfire.

What the T-baggers want is for Christie to turn his back on his constituents. This is where reality gob smacks the ideology. He may have well caused his political death sentence. The ideologues will see to that.

The disruptors over FEMA are in the GOP. So Governor cut the crap and call out your party members. 

Considering your posting history, you have no room to talk. None whatsoever.

Hypocrite!

Christie is making a deadly ( political ) mistake by not simply standing up ( alone ) for what New Jersey’s immediate and possible future needs are. 

Him standing with Obama administration officials while badmouthing his own party leaders in Congress is a move I would expect from a rookie, I thought he was way past that……I guess not.

Now on the otherhand if Christie is just trying to garner favor with the democrat ( majority ) electorate, you know like Obama always does, he must be called out and made to pay for his sins.

A disaster is no time for this type of left wing bomb thrower-esque behavour from one of our most respected Republicans.

Pointing out your hypocrisy and wanna-be-tyrannical political nature isn’t hypocrisy.

It’s sunlight.

Wow. You’re supper intelligent aren’t you? I’m very impressed with the way you can go through a comment section and correct people’s spelling and grammar. Get a life!

Tell Paul and his libertarian friends.

He’s right. Trouble is, they’ve been sending their cash for that to Washington because that’s the way we’ve set it up. So as long as the system is what it is, it needs to work that way. 

Only when it’s HIS ox being gored.  If this was on the Gulf Coast, not so much.

I’m surprised that took as long as it did.

Both work in this case.

So, you want the federal government to stop collecting taxes in Jersey too then, right?

The US Govenrment has way too many programs which causes most of these programs to be partially funded.

It is much like buying a car and all of your extra money is spent on the payment.  When it is time to buy tires…there is nothing there.  Unfortunately the solution for the majority of car buyers is to charge them on a very expensive credit card, then turn around and complain about  the interest rates being too high.   Duh!

Using Progressive criteria, JFK was a teabagging nutjob.

I agree in principal, but there are a lot of good people in Jersey, Texas, Florida, and other states burdened by Republican rule – so this Texan would give ‘em what they need.

Well, it had to happen. Every other Republican of any distinction has become a RINO.

I bet if all the Tea Party and hard core Libertarian flame throwers here lived in a community devastated by a widespread natural disaster, they would be crying out for national assistance, including FEMA.

Talk is cheap. It is easy to criticize when you, your living space and your community is safe and sound. Fiscal idealism does not always work when the rubber meets the road so to speak. Reality is more complicated than pie in the sky “we do not need help from the federal government”.

Ayn Rand was not always right. She was occasionally very wrong and sometimes clueless as well.

The Tea Bag mantra: “I got mine so screw everyone else”.

Chris…Chris…Chris, what on God’s green earth are you doing?

…You’re making far too much sense and that’s going to have repercussions for you!

Gov. Christie’s number one obligation is to the citizens of New Jersey, not the Armchair Tea Party warriors living elsewhere. Why should Chris care what some troglodyte Tea Bagger in South Carolina thinks?

Politically, this may be very good for his popularity in the Garden State.

So you’re saying he should demand help from the federal gov’t? Wath about his principles?

Why? The choice between waffles and pancakes can change your entire day, and a single day can change your entire life, and your life can change the lives of others and alter the course of history. If Archduke Ferdinand had gone with pepper salami instead of boiled ham at breakfast, he could well have belched and thrown his head back allowing the bullet to go right past him and lodge in Gasthaus Stern.

The Good Lt. could use some sunlight himself, this should not be hard as it is still Summer.

I looked at your posting history. You do the same thing you criticize Republicans are Liars for doing. This is hypocrisy on your part.

How? Give me examples.

I’ll look for a similar post from you over on the story about Maxine Walters and that other racist from the Black Caucus.

Good news for you!  Then he can rest his tea bag on your chin.

Sounds like your a little panicky . . . worried the Messiah will be on the lecture circuit after 2012?

Austere measures and cuts to government programs are always a great idea, until your state or your district is suffering. Then you “can’t wait”. Typical Republican.

JFK said it’s not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.  Current lib version of that speech would be “me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me . . . . “

no, it’s just “affected”

It’s about time you finally  get the irony of the name your handlers originally called your made-up,  bullshit group of whiney white people. You can thank Dick Armey for that, not me.

I urge the government to punish my political opponents because of their political party?

Show me where.

 Hey dittohead, how many jobs are going to be created when the roads, bridges and power are still knocked out?

 RINO simply means anyone who attempts to use reason and compromise or doesn’t just repeat the rubbish they hear on FOX or Rush.

Funny how racism only bothers you when it is black.

 That makes no sense, He is pointing out Christie’s inconsistency, not speaking for the Democratic party

 That makes no sense, He is pointing out Christie’s inconsistency, not speaking for the Democratic party

 That makes no sense, He is pointing out Christie’s inconsistency, not speaking for the Democratic party

Teabaggers don’t want to do anything for their country, thought to be fair, they don’t seem to want anything, so they say Anyone who thinks JFK was a tea partier is proof that tea party is full of morons

Ayn Rand was not always right. She was occasionally very wrong and sometimes clueless as well.

She was also a hypocrite who did not practice what she preached as she secretly collected Social Security and used Medicare.

Yes, for sure some small town that has been wiped out by a hurricane or tornado would be in fine shape if they only had not sent all that money to washington.

Of course we had stuff but nothing like this monster. They’re animals..

I’ll make a note of it.

Oops, I’ll make a note of it.

A man who genuinely cares about his constituents and as he says political affiliations in this situation really don’t matter. A hurricane will treat everyone equally…

…with contempt.

I think both Cantor and Christie are correct.We should take the money appropriated to implement Obamacare and use it to help people in states that have emergency needs.After all, an overwhelming majority of the American people were against Obamacare before and after it’s passage.There are many other wasteful programs that funding has been appropriated for that the funding could be defunded and used for real needs instead of someones wants.

If there is a time to “throw money” around, now is the time. Not only to alleviate human suffering, but how much economic growth can you have when everything is knocked out?

I swam and fished the Raritan River throughout childhood. I swam in the floods from the 50′s on throughout Somerset county and surrounding counties. We always had floods. We always cleaned up. Our volunteer fire and rescue still pumped basements. Everyone chipped in without permits, fees, salaries and the like not waiting for government.  Every resident knew what to do.  I’ll bet Watchung still floods Plainfield.
If some of the money got through and projects limited the past destruction that’s super. To bad it’s taken forty years

 Wow that was stunning insight. Teatards want to make sure that Exxon pays even less taxes while their house is in foreclosure.

Volunteers are great for rescuing and succoring survivors, or laying sandbags. But that is not how you replace a bridge, road  or power line

Sarah Palin will still be on the lecture circuit after 2012, but her venues will probably be model train clubs and knitting circles by this point.

I’m not a fan of Govenor Christie, but I have to acknowledge his bravery in standing up against to those in his own party such as the Tea Party, Cantor, and Norquest.  He is begining to appear as a politiican who represents his constituents first, and his party second, the exact opposite of Cantor.  Cantor is a first class ars and is up for reelection in 2012.  I hope his constituents remember this political stunt of his in holding the people who suffered from this storm as hostages.  His own constituents are also victims from this storm. Hopefully they’ll remember this and also remember his contribution in lowering our countrys credit rating.  Standards and Poors was as direct as they could possibly be without naming names (Cantor and the Tea Party) on who they blamed for the credit rating reduction.

Christie is one of the few republicans who dares to challenge the party. If he was to run, he’d be a better fit to run as an indepdent. Not only what he said here, but, also, when he was criticized by the far right for having appointed a Muslim to a judgeship in New Jersey, he said that the crazies should get over themselves. I’m just wondering if the T-Vangelicals approve of his statements. Chrtistie tells it like it is on the left and right. He should run as an independent. This kind of directness and honesty is unprecedented. I would support him before i would support Perry or Bachmann.

Heck no we need those taxes for ‘Defense’ not  for helping pathetic victims/moochers

:)

This is why the Tea Party’s position on government programs is hypocritical. Everyone wants to cut programs that others use but no one wants to cut programs that they use. All the old people crying about debt would never let the government touch their social security (even though social security isthe biggest expense). I like Gov. Christie & respect his positions, but I think Irene just taught him a lesson in ideology vs. actuality.

Sometimes I kinda like Gov. Christie Creme. He’s one of the few sane Republicans out there.

You’re correct. They always think they have the answer, but it’s never thought through. These people talk of the way things used to be,…not now in the real world! Aunt Bee and Andy could get the town together for a bake sale to re-build the church, but times have changed!

We never needed government to build a bridge or get power back on and still dont.  Government needs to get out of the way. Especially this government as well as  the past forty years worth of government. Government is not eating itself fast enough.

yes republicans never politicize anything.  Anybody got clips of the 2004 convention?

yes that why he chopped government spending, procured a isolationist policy regarding communism, didn’t champion a huge government spending program (NASA) and kept his nose out of private business…

Pablo, you’re better than this

how much taxes did we get from Iraq? We spend 2 trillion over there.

you’re a moron. 

troll.  Yes because the first thing you want to do with a raging flood is get in it and try to swim across. 

Are you proposing that ALL of American society resemble Pennsylvania Dutch Country Amish and Mennonites…horse drawn buggies…no electricity….live off the land and build your neighbor’s houses while they build yours?

 Really?  Because that’s the ONLY sense I can try to make out of what you’re proposing here.

 This is 2011—not 1811.

–Cobra

Sounded like a “tea” hate.

That’s going to work for you.

The “tea bag” version would be,…”not them us”, “not them us”.

So liberals can’t claim racist when (often) confronted by it, but it’s ok for a “tea” to spew it out for no reason!

He’s a RINO for caring about the people of his state more than he cares about your ideology? Sorry, but he wasn’t elected to do what Rush Limbaugh wants him to do. He was elected to serve the people of his state.

You really have no clue what Reagan was about. If he ran today, he would be considered a big spending liberal who would compromise with the other side for the good of his state & country. Calling JFK a “teabagger” really makes no sense. You do realize that JFK expanded social security benefits, right?

You’re right, he’s making a political mistake for wanting the government to send aid to his storm ravaged state. How will the people of his state ever forgive him for this? This is the problem with t-baggers such as yourself: you’re so engrossed in you own ideology that you have no concept of reality.

You’re right, he’s making a political mistake for wanting the government to send aid to his storm ravaged state. How will the people of his state ever forgive him for this? This is the problem with t-baggers such as yourself: you’re so engrossed in you own ideology that you have no concept of reality.

Always respected Christie. One of the few people in government that care more about America than they do about political posturing.

Eric Cantor should keep politics out of it nothing you can do about Canes or tornados they happen and victims that lost homes need aid they don’t want to hear about cutting spending what Cantor said. And it wasn’t the right time to say it as well if I were Gov like Chris Christie I would be ticed off as well at Cantor. Shame Eric Cantor playing politics.

Christie is posturing too.

We are broke.

We have no good options. Every option for dealing with our economic problems and debt is going to be painful. The lefty options will be painful and suicidal.

Why is nearly every group in the country “suffering?” Why aren’t some inconvenienced, bothered, pissed of at themselves, uncomfortable, troubled, or hassled? I doubt there was much actual suffering going on after Irene. Christie has just shown himself to be a typical politician.

In today’s world you are either happy as a clam or suffering. I predict suffering will soon join racist as an over used word.

Um, you do realize that New Jersey is in a state of disaster at the moment, right? Your name suits you well. Small thoughts = small mind.

FEMA ‘re-brands’ itself as ‘Federal Family.’

Lipstick on a Pig.

Can’t afford it? Too damn bad. Use those “bootstraps” you Rethugs think everyone should grab after a disaster. Ain’t it funny how it’s always the wealth that goes running to uncle sam when THEIR chips are down (Banks, Car Makers, Chrispie Creme Christie, etc) but they’re they same group that whine, piss and moan about their “crippling” taxes.

Screw ‘em. They crapped their bed – they can wash their sheets. They got plenty of water now.

MUST BE HARD TO BE A SUFFERING RACIST