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Jay Carney’s Awkward Response To Questions Over Lack Of White House Easter Statement

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I think I may have just dislocated my shoulder from cringing too hard. In what is one of the most awkward White House press briefings I’ve yet seen, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney somehow manages to say both not enough and entirely too much.

First, he was asked why the White House had not sent out a proclamation for Easter. (To put the question in context, keep in mind that the White House has sent out proclamations for the “150th Anniversary of the Unification of Italy” and “Wright Brothers Day.”)

Carney’s response was to scoff (And, you guys, this was a scoff. It wasn’t a laugh or a chortle or a giggle or a twitter or a chuckle. It was a straight-up scoff.) and relay the following:

You know, the President when to church yesterday; it was widely covered. I’m not sure if we put out a statement or not.

But he obviously personally celebrated Easter with his family and went to church to celebrate that.

I mean, honestly, why would the White House’s Press Secretary know what the White House did or did not send out? Can’t journalists ever do anything for themselves? Calm down, people! It’s just a holiday that’s celebrated by something like, what? Seventy-eight percent of Americans, including the First Family? It’s no “Wright Brothers Day.” One reporter, clearly clueless, followed up by asking, “It’s the highest Christian holiday and you don’t know if you put out a statement? Come on, Jay.”

Carney’s response? “I’m glad you’re asking these key, important questions, guys.” Because the White House Press Secretary glibly scoffing at reporters’ questions and deflecting blame shouldn’t exactly be news at this point:

The fact is, the President took his family to church in a very high profile way, to celebrate Easter. I think it was highly visible to most Americans. And he, as a devoted Christian, believes it is a very important holiday for him personally, for his family, and for Christians around the country.

Oh my God (of the New Testament)! Jay. Jay, Jay, Jaaaaaay. Jay. We really, honestly, sincerely do not think the reporter’s question was a sly, roundabout way of asking why “alleged Christian” Barack Obama intentionally neglected Easter while secretly burning a basketful of Cadbury eggs as a sacrifice to the giant Golden Calf/Donkey he keeps in the White House Red Room. And we don’t think the story here is “media attacks Obama over questions about his faith” but rather, “White House Press Secretary apparently assumes he needs to drive home the fact that our President is indeed Christian and does not hate Easter, the Easter bunny, Jesus Christ, or delicious seasonal treats like marshmallow Peeps.”

Feel free to watch the clip for yourselves, but be warned, the cringe factor is somewhere between “mom sending you a friend request on Facebook” and “falling, naked, out of a T.J. Maxx dressing room after becoming woefully entangled in the dressing room curtain.” Not that I’d know much about either one:

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  • possibly

    I can’t ever remember anyone in the media talking about or the media reporting on a freakin’ presidential easter statement. Mediate must be having a slow day.

  • Color Me Badd

    I guess this is confirmation that Obama is a Muslim.

  • murf

    Give Obama a break , wouldn’t you be tired after three days in a tomb ?

  • Azarkhan

    I actually feel sorry for Carney. I don’t think he is used to lying. Unfortunately, when you work for Obama, you gotta do a lot of lying.

    That being said, at least the White House found time in 2010 to release statements recognizing the observance of major Muslim holidays including Ramadan, Eid-ul-Fitr, Hajj, and Eid-ul-Adha.

  • TfT

    Which Church did he go to and what did the Pastor preach? Not as flashy as his close advisor and friend the Referand Wright, but perhaps nearly as trashy?with racial undertones????

    Oh well…..Jay doesn’t help with his scoffing; especially when the WH has issued statements for every muslim holiday (or so the link from Drudge implies), and yet didn’t release one on the Christian holy day of Easter. Interesting, indeed.

  • http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

    AA,
    Excellent post…

  • Jaurez

    Nice job, Alex.

  • http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim
  • Harry Flashman

    I miss the other guy. At least when he lied for Obama he did it with panache. Carney has all the credibility, personality, and charm of Joseph Goebbels.

    Looks sort of like him, too. A little hair grease, a different suit and……

    I hate Nazi references, don’t you?

    Just sayin’.

  • mediadoubt

    I don’t personally care whether they issued a statement or not. However, as it’s traditional, they probably should have done so, if for no other reason than to avoid questions like this popping up in a press conference.

    Carney and his office screwed this up and he made it worse by being dismissive. I think he’s going to get called to the principal’s office.

  • TillieGlockenspiel

    skoorbekim said:
    This happened at the WH on Easter:
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sT4niNFNgwM/TbTd3z5gTqI/AAAAAAAAWs8/BBmjiV1JU1M/s1600/easter%2Bstorm%2B3.jpg
    seriously…

    I saw that this morning. It seems appropriate.

  • skyfet

    Maybe because they are all Muslims.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Just this morning, I was ridiculed for bringing this up. What do you know!

    And ps, he also sent out proclamations for Muslim holidays AND Earth Day. Not saying that makes him a Muslim, Color me Ignorant, but it is a little odd, no?

  • Liberty_Hound

    Guess all the tee times were booked.

  • black and WHITE

    The muslim prince will be seeking a new court jester ‘ toot sweet ‘. You couldn’t make this, Obama the dupe , stuff up if you tried.

    Who needs Donald Trump to unseat Barack Obama when you’ve got barack Obama doing it to himself.

  • rubberneck

    The only reason Obama became a Christian, was that he would get the support of Reverend Wright’s flock.

  • skyfet

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Just this morning, I was ridiculed for bringing this up. What do you know!

    And ps, he also sent out proclamations for Muslim holidays AND Earth Day. Not saying that makes him a Muslim, Color me Ignorant, but it is a little odd, no?

    No, should he do one for the Christians and another for the Mormons (not to leave anyone out).

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Sky, see you have no response, so you jump straight to the Mormon bashing. That’s getting a little tired.

  • mediadoubt

    black and WHITE said:
    The muslim prince will be seeking a new court jester ‘ toot sweet ‘. You couldn’t make this, Obama the dupe , stuff up if you tried.

    Who needs Donald Trump to unseat Barack Obama when you’ve got barack Obama doing it to himself.

    Whoa nellie! Pretend you even a smidgen of perspective on what’s meaningful and what’s not.

  • black and WHITE

    mediadoubt said:
    I don’t personally care whether they issued a statement or not. However, as it’s traditional, they probably should have done so, if for no other reason than to avoid questions like this popping up in a press conference.

    Carney and his office screwed this up and he made it worse by being dismissive. I think he’s going to get called to the principal’s office.

    Oh well if you don’t personally care, I guess the alleged presidents got nothing to worry about, huh?

  • skyfet

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Sky, see you have no response, so you jump straight to the Mormon bashing. That’s getting a little tired.

    lol, did I touch a nerve. Oh its ok to bash the Muslims, but when the Mormons are mentioned I get dirty looks. Wow, what double standards.

  • Puter Boi

    “falling, naked, out of a T.J. Maxx dressing room after becoming woefully entangled in the dressing room curtain.”

    HEY! You promised you wouldn’t tell.
    Thank God there isn’t a video…..ummmmmm….Alex?….there is no video, right?
    I wasn’t exactly tangled up…
    Oh…never mind…

  • Dem4Ever

    Ha…Osama…oops…I mean Obama is now officially finished as a credible president. Hail, our Dear Leader is but a one term wonder.

  • BeckFinallyDemoted

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    And ps, he also sent out proclamations for Muslim holidays AND Earth Day.

    He sent out statements for Muslim Holidays and a proclamation for Earth Day.
    Here is the list of ALL Presidential proclamations. Not one for Easter or Muslim holidays. Ever. Not even by Bush.
    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/proclamations.php?year=2011&Submit=DISPLAY

    You are confused.
    This is what happens when you get your propaganda from Fox News.

    I guess the Prayer Breakfast, Mass and Easter Egg roll wasn’t enough for Christians.
    They wanted a card too.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    ” delicious seasonal treats like marshmallow Peeps.”

    Nobody actually eats those things …Do they ?

  • Alice67

    And the onward march to a Theocracy continues.

  • Jaurez

    BeckFinallyDemoted says:

    “Fox News!”

    *drink*

  • Color Me Badd

    murf said:
    Give Obama a break , wouldn’t you be tired after three days in a tomb ?

    That is pretty good, I must admit.

  • Jaurez

    By comparison, the White House has released statements recognizing the observance of major Muslim holidays and released statements in 2010 on Ramadan, Eid-ul-Fitr, Hajj, and Eid-ul-Adha.

    The White House . . . did release an eight-paragraph statement heralding Earth Day. Likewise, the president’s weekend address mentioned neither Good Friday or Easter.

  • http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

    Alice67 said:
    And the onward march to a Theocracy continues.

    Name one Christian Theocracy on Earth…
    Keep in mind Vatican City has only 786 residents…

  • Color Me Badd

    I just wish Obama had been honest from the beginning, he obviously doesn’t like church that much and had to lie about his attendance at Rev. Wright’s church because we live in a country where you have to be religious to be President. It was fairly obvious during the campaign that his connection to Rev. Wright’s church was tenuous at best, he is basically like so many Americans who say they are Christians but can’t be bothered with going to church.

    Just wish he were honest and said that he doesn’t like going to church, I would have so much more respect for him. But unfortunately that wont get you any votes in our backwards ass country where most people lie about how much they go to church anyway.

  • Color Me Badd

    skoorbekim said:
    Name one Christian Theocracy on Earth…
    Keep in mind Vatican City has only 786 residents…

    The United States.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Color Me Badd said:
    I just wish Obama had been honest from the beginning, he obviously doesn’t like church that much and had to lie about his attendance at Rev. Wright’s church because we live in a country where you have to be religious to be President. It was fairly obvious during the campaign that his connection to Rev. Wright’s church was tenuous at best, he is basically like so many Americans who say they are Christians but can’t be bothered with going to church. Just wish he were honest and said that he doesn’t like going to church, I would have so much more respect for him. But unfortunately that wont get you any votes in our backwards ass country where most people lie about how much they go to church anyway.

    well you do admit the president lies…so

  • david r

    Color Me Badd said:
    I guess this is confirmation that Obama is a Muslim.

    Well I knew you’d come around sooner or later. That Rev. Wright thing is such a pathetic charade.

  • Cecelia

    murf said:
    Give Obama a break , wouldn’t you be tired after three days in a tomb ?

    No one is going to be able to top that one!

  • roxsteady

    Oh Please! What’s really awkward was that fox news started this bullshit and one of the useless Whitehouse press members even asked this fox question. These people are an embarrassment. Personally, as someone who is not religious and doesn’t even believe in god, I don’t personally give a damn about Easter or any other religious holidays. I can’t believe that any serious religious person even noticed. I’m glad that Carney laughed though. I would have too!

  • Color Me Badd

    There are much more important issues to be writing about Mediaite. Kind of surprised you didn’t post the video of Scott Walker basically saying he is going to do away with local governments and institute a kind of martial law if he doesn’t get his way. Seems much more important than whether or not Obama is a good Christian soldier. Who cares!!!

  • Color Me Badd

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    well you do admit the president lies…so

    He is a politician Einstein, what do you think?

  • cjd ohio 1

    Color Me Badd said:
    He is a politician Einstein, what do you think?

    was not meant as a insult

  • Cecelia

    Color Me Badd said:
    ust wish he were honest and said that he doesn’t like going to church, I would have so much more respect for him. But unfortunately that wont get you any votes in our backwards ass country where most people lie about how much they go to church anyway.

    So you’re suggesting that when it comes to his faith, the president is engaging in a charade because the truth would turn off voters?

    Where’s Cokie when we need her?…

  • Colorado_Conservative

    Is there anyone that is competent in this administration?
    I am dead serious..is there ONE competent person in the Obama admin?

    The answer is NO!

  • Color Me Badd

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    was not meant as a insult

    I wasn’t really insulting you either, but all politicians lie. They can’t help themselves.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Color Me Badd said:
    I wasn’t really insulting you either, but all politicians lie. They can’t help themselves.

    true

  • Color Me Badd

    Cecelia said:
    So you’re suggesting that when it comes to his faith, the president is engaging in a charade because the truth would turn off voters?

    Where’s Cokie when we need her?…

    Yes I am admitting that, why is that so mindblowing. You have to be a Christian in the United States to be elected President. So much for the religious freedoms our Founding Fathers sacrificed for. Unfortunately stories like this only perpetuate this BS. When an atheist finally runs for President watch what happens.

  • LOGICandREASON

    Why should anyone be bothered about Barack Husein Obama releasing an official White House Easter Statement?

    It is quite normal to me personally; I mean what we’re talking about here is Christianity and Jesus Christ.

    As a matter of fact I would only be surprised if it was Ramadan feast and Obama made no official White House Statement.

  • Jaurez

    BFD? What say you?

  • Alex Alvarez

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    ” delicious seasonal treats like marshmallow Peeps.”

    Nobody actually eats those things …Do they ?

    Let them sit in the fridge for a couple of days. They go from “housing insulation” to “magical treats sprinkled with joy.”

  • laceyunderalls

    How in the hell is it possibly to find someone more inept and useless that Bagdad Bob and his gargantuan Forehead??

    Good gawd this administration is teh suck!

  • mediadoubt

    black and WHITE said:
    Oh well if you don’t personally care, I guess the alleged presidents got nothing to worry about, huh?

    Perspective, perspective, perspective. A single person’s opinion — yours or mine — can’t be reliably assessed. That’s why we count votes and take polls.

  • BeckFinallyDemoted

    It’s all becoming clear now…

    THERE IS A WAR ON EASTER!!!

  • grafxmail7

    So USING YOUR OWN RIGHTIE LOGIC this pretty much CONFIRMS that you Righties are all RACISTS!!!

    If you IMBECILES refuse to BELIEVE the President is CHRISTIAN after he has STATED HE IS A CHRISTIAN, AD NAUSEAM, then anyone who accuses you RIGHTIES that you are RACISTS has EVERY RIGHT to do so ACCORDING TO YOUR LOGIC.

    It doesn’t matter if you say your not RACISTS because WHAT YOU SAY DOESN’T MATTER.

    I know you RIGHTIES have a problem with LOGIC, but hey….YOU’RE CLOWNS AS WELL!! HAHAHAHA!!

  • mediadoubt

    Dem4Ever said:
    Ha…Osama…oops…I mean Obama is now officially finished as a credible president. Hail, our Dear Leader is but a one term wonder.

    The reason you have no credibility is you have no sense of proportion, and to the extent that you represent likely voters opposed to Obama, you will drag your nominee (whoever it is) down.

    And that’s a good thing.

  • mediadoubt

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    ” delicious seasonal treats like marshmallow Peeps.”

    Nobody actually eats those things …Do they ?

    Only the very brave or the very foolish.

  • ChrisNH

    Quote: “The fact is, the President took his family to church in a very high profile way.”

    Everything to this frigging idiot of a president is all about, ‘See me do this! See me do that! See me eat lobster that’s too expensive for you! See me go on vacations that you can’t afford! See me go to church just so the cameras can be there to record it…not because I want to.”

    Obama…the big-eared, cigarette-smoking IDIOT.

  • TeaPartyPatriot

    As noted by The Drudge Report, “You Lie!” hussein has NEVER FAILED TO COMMEMORATE EACH AND EVERY MUSLIM HOLIDAY.

    Gee, what a surprise.

  • mitchflorida

    At least Robert Gibbs was a good liar . . this guy Carney sucks.

  • mediadoubt

    Color Me Badd said:
    I just wish Obama had been honest from the beginning, he obviously doesn’t like church that much and had to lie about his attendance at Rev. Wright’s church because we live in a country where you have to be religious to be President. It was fairly obvious during the campaign that his connection to Rev. Wright’s church was tenuous at best, he is basically like so many Americans who say they are Christians but can’t be bothered with going to church.

    Just wish he were honest and said that he doesn’t like going to church, I would have so much more respect for him. But unfortunately that wont get you any votes in our backwards ass country where most people lie about how much they go to church anyway.

    Despite the fact that there’s no Constitutional or other legal test for office that requires religious belief, you’re quite right — if America, if you’re not religious you basically aren’t going to win an election.

    The effects are insidious. If you are forced to be hypocritical about religious faith to achieve success in politics, what else are you going to be hypocritical about?

    Religious faith is a gateway drug to even more serious delusions.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ralph-E-Vaughan/100001511573607 Ralph E. Vaughan

    Aw, come on, people…they had egg salad sandwiches for lunch at the White House Sunday. Quit picking on Jay before he starts crying.

  • black and WHITE

    mediadoubt said:
    Perspective, perspective, perspective. A single person’s opinion — yours or mine — can’t be reliably assessed. That’s why we count votes and take polls.

    Yeah right, maybe you want to take Obama’s pole, but I’m strickly a one person, one shower stall kind of guy. I even keep my soap on a rope so there’s never a chance of a misunderstanding.

  • ndanielson

    mediadoubt said:
    The reason you have no credibility is you have no sense of proportion, and to the extent that you represent likely voters opposed to Obama, you will drag your nominee (whoever it is) down.

    And that’s a good thing.

    Looks like the only media you doubt is Fox News. It explains so much.

  • Color Me Badd

    mediadoubt said:
    Despite the fact that there’s no Constitutional or other legal test for office that requires religious belief, you’re quite right — if America, if you’re not religious you basically aren’t going to win an election.

    The effects are insidious. If you are forced to be hypocritical about religious faith to achieve success in politics, what else are you going to be hypocritical about?

    Religious faith is a gateway drug to even more serious delusions.

    Great points, mediadoubt.

  • mediadoubt

    black and WHITE said:
    Yeah right, maybe you want to take Obama’s pole, but I’m strickly a one person, one shower stall kind of guy. I even keep my soap on a rope so there’s never a chance of a misunderstanding.

    There seems to be a throughline to your postings. Have you considered talking to your local priest about this obsession? I think you’d get some real “perspective.”

    You could even bring your soap.

  • BeckFinallyDemoted

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    COMMEMORATE

    Obama did commemorate Easter.
    You just don’t like how he did it.

    com·mem·o·rate:
    1. Recall and show respect for (someone or something) in a ceremony.

    I’m pretty sure Obama showed respect for Jesus in the ceremony called Easter Mass.

  • Color Me Badd

    black and WHITE said:
    Yeah right, maybe you want to take Obama’s pole, but I’m strickly a one person, one shower stall kind of guy. I even keep my soap on a rope so there’s never a chance of a misunderstanding.

    Don’t you just love the unabashed homophobia on full display by people who hide behind screennames.

  • felixw

    Maybe if Easter coincided with Ramadan, the White House would have an enthusiastic statement to release to the public.

  • mediadoubt

    ndanielson said:
    Looks like the only media you doubt is Fox News. It explains so much.

    Actually, Fox News is irrelevant to this discussion (now *there’s* a surprise) and consequently I haven’t brought it up.

    Obsess much?

  • Color Me Badd

    mediadoubt said:
    The reason you have no credibility is you have no sense of proportion, and to the extent that you represent likely voters opposed to Obama, you will drag your nominee (whoever it is) down.

    And that’s a good thing.

    The great thing about it is they don’t even realize it. Obama will win in a landslide if this is the sort of thing they do. And I know it will be, they can’t help themselves.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    (Fox News) — President Obama failed to release a statement or a proclamation recognizing the national observance of Easter Sunday, Christianity’s most sacred holiday.

    By comparison, the White House has released statements recognizing the observance of major Muslim holidays and released statements in 2010 on Ramadan, Eid-ul-Fitr, Hajj, and Eid-ul-Adha.

    The White House also failed to release a statement marking Good Friday. However, they did release an eight-paragraph statement heralding Earth Day. Likewise, the president’s weekend address mentioned neither Good Friday or Easter.

    However, the First Family did attend an Easter Sunday worship service at a Baptist church and last week, the president hosted an Easter breakfast for Christian ministers. In that gathering, the president spoke openly about the Christian faith.

    And today, the president and first lady will host 30,000 people for the annual White House Easter Egg Roll. The secular celebration of Easter includes readings, games, and a yoga garden. This year’s theme, “Get Up and Go!” is part of the first lady’s anti-obesity campaign and will also display produce from the White House garden.

    In 2010, Obama was criticized for releasing an all-inclusive Easter greeting. He reached out to Jews, Muslims, Hindus, and people of no faith at all in a statement about a holiday that is uniquely Christian.

    http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2011/04/25/wh-fails-release-easter-proclamation#ixzz1KXd7gPCx

    Any thought BFD, why he would intentionally leave out only the Christian holidays?

  • TheEagle

    My question is does the white house traditionally put out a statement on easter? Was one put out last year? Did past presidents put out one every year?

  • ndanielson

    mediadoubt said:
    Despite the fact that there’s no Constitutional or other legal test for office that requires religious belief, you’re quite right — if America, if you’re not religious you basically aren’t going to win an election.

    The effects are insidious. If you are forced to be hypocritical about religious faith to achieve success in politics, what else are you going to be hypocritical about?

    Religious faith is a gateway drug to even more serious delusions.

    Is that why 0bama lied to let the whole world know that he spent 20 years in his beloved “Christian” church, was married by his church’s minister, and had both his kids baptized there, by his favorite church’s minister? Is that why you liberal sheep voted for him, he lies so well about the unimportant things?

  • BeckFinallyDemoted

    felixw said:
    Maybe if Easter coincided with Ramadan, the White House would have an enthusiastic statement to release to the public.

    This from the guy who says the media never concentrate on the important issues like War and Economy.
    Well look at him now…happy to jump on the this trite bandwagon!!

  • mediadoubt

    murf said:
    Give Obama a break , wouldn’t you be tired after three days in a tomb ?

    Ya know, snarky remarks are much more effective if they make some kind of sense. Just because the spark goes off in your brain doesn’t necessarily mean that a lightbulb is turning on.

  • BeckFinallyDemoted

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Any thought BFD, why he would intentionally leave out only the Christian holidays?

    I will answer your question when you admit you were wrong Obama “sent out proclamations for Muslim holidays AND Earth Day”.

    Also…Reagan was praised for being first President to include the Jewish Passover in his Easter Statement.
    Obama is vilified for including Muslims in 2010.

    Maybe he just gave up trying to please you dipshits.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Read the darn link BFD, he DID in 2010. Stop trying to play gotcha with me and answer the question. Give me ONE good reason why he would do that.

  • OxyCon

    Obama has made White House proclamations, and sometimes taped videos for every major Muslim holiday. Hmmmmm…

    Also, that “church” Obama went to on Easter Sunday sure looks like Rev Wright Lite­­­©. Why isn’t the media pointing out all of the controversial, racial things the pastor of that church has said? The President choose that church, which means he must agree with the controversial things said there.

  • TillieGlockenspiel

    April 25, 2011 at 6:12 pm (Quote)
    Mediaite Staff
    The Lantern of Truth said:
    ” delicious seasonal treats like marshmallow Peeps.”
    Nobody actually eats those things …Do they ?
    Let them sit in the fridge for a couple of days. They go from “housing insulation” to “magical treats sprinkled with joy.”

    Thank you sooo much, Alex. I sent Peeps to New York and Silicon Valley for Easter gifts for my adult children and I always wonder at their taste buds when I send the blasted things. I assumed they tasted like “housing insulation.” (BTW, hollow chocolate bunnies wrapped in foil get investigated by the postal service- they tear their ears off to make sure they’re not filled with explosives or some contraband!) Now, I’ll know to send more Peeps next year!

  • BeckFinallyDemoted

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Read the darn link BFD

    I did.

    “By comparison, the White House has released statements recognizing the observance of major Muslim holidays and released statements in 2010 on Ramadan, Eid-ul-Fitr, Hajj, and Eid-ul-Adha.”

    Nothing about him releasing a Muslim Holiday Proclamation.
    There is a difference between a statement and a presidential proclamation and if you look at my link of ALL proclamations there has never been one for Easter or a Muslim holiday. There was an Earth Day proclamation though. Please stop mixing apples and oranges. Just because Fox did doesn’t mean you have to.

    So let’s concentrate on White House Statements….I already gave you my answer…

    Reagan was praised for being first President to include the Jewish Passover in his Easter Statement.
    Obama is vilified for including Muslims in his 2010 statement..

    Maybe he just gave up trying to please you dipshits.

    Besides, I though actions speak louder than words for you Christians….

    “First Family did attend an Easter Sunday worship service at a Baptist church and last week, the president hosted an Easter breakfast for Christian ministers. In that gathering, the president spoke openly about the Christian faith.”

    Guess not, huh?

  • mediadoubt

    Color Me Badd said:
    The great thing about it is they don’t even realize it. Obama will win in a landslide if this is the sort of thing they do. And I know it will be, they can’t help themselves.

    One can hope. I genuinely believe that the nuttier element of the right wing will be an intense distraction to Repubicans across the country in 2012 and will drive moderates of all parties into the Democratic camp.

    On the other hand, I don’t doubt that right wing America is going to be passionate about the election, and passion drives voting.

    It’s going to be interesting.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    K, i’m going to take your shuffling as not even you being able to spin this one.

  • black and WHITE

    Color Me Badd said:
    Don’t you just love the unabashed homophobia on full display by people who hide behind screennames.

    You’re way outside of the lines if you’re trying to color me badd.

  • BeckFinallyDemoted

    As can plainly be seen, White House proclamations and statements are two separate things..

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/proclamations/

  • ndanielson

    mediadoubt said:
    Actually, Fox News is irrelevant to this discussion (now *there’s* a surprise) and consequently I haven’t brought it up.

    Obsess much?

    I doubt much of the media, cupcake. My screen name has neither the word media, or doubt in it. Seems you are the one obsessing much, and not doubting much. At least not doubting much of your liberal media, is all. Which media do you doubt, sweetpea? Bet I can guess.

  • mediadoubt

    ndanielson said:
    Is that why 0bama lied to let the whole world know that he spent 20 years in his beloved “Christian” church, was married by his church’s minister, and had both his kids baptized there, by his favorite church’s minister? Is that why you liberal sheep voted for him, he lies so well about the unimportant things?

    Let’s talk about the “general” and the “specific.” My point was that politicians — in general — are required to be religious in America. Speaking about Barack Obama — a specific politician — I have no idea about the sincerity of his faith.

    And outside of the fact that I consider relgious faith a burden rather than a benefit, It doesn’t really matter what faith he is.

  • mediadoubt

    ndanielson said:
    I doubt much of the media, cupcake. My screen name has neither the word media, or doubt in it. Seems you are the one obsessing much, and not doubting much. At least not doubting much of your liberal media, is all. Which media do you doubt, sweetpea? Bet I can guess.

    All of ‘em.

  • tatboy

    That was cringe-tastic… Good job dumb@ss.

  • grafxmail7

    black and WHITE said:
    Yeah right, maybe you want to take Obama’s pole, but I’m strickly a one person, one shower stall kind of guy. I even keep my soap on a rope so there’s never a chance of a misunderstanding.

    HILARIOUS!!! This guy is a SERIOUS LATENT HOMOSEXUAL!!!!

    I’d call him a HOMOPHOBE but this CLOWN would take that as a complement.

    It’s OK!! It’s NOT A BAD THING TO BE GAY! You just need to come out and stop HATING YOURSELF!!!

    Also…why is “WHITE” capitalized in your screen name and “black” in lowercase?

    It looks like you’re a RACISTS AS WELL!!!

  • ndanielson

    mediadoubt said:
    Ya know, snarky remarks are much more effective if they make some kind of sense. Just because the spark goes off in your brain doesn’t necessarily mean that a lightbulb is turning on.

    The gap between spark and bulb is so great that no amount of voltage would light your bulb.

  • david r

    mediadoubt said:
    . . . A single person’s opinion — yours or mine — can’t be reliably assessed. . .

    Well, I always thought that myself until I got married.

  • Azarkhan

    roxsteady said:
    Personally, as someone who is not religious and doesn’t even believe in god

    Wow-what a shocker!!

  • ndanielson

    mediadoubt said:
    All of ‘em.

    Mediadoubt, was koolaidlover taken?

  • Jax_n_Jill

    Hey Alex..did you see the praise for you?….

    http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2011/04/25/post-of-the-day-goes-to/

    Every once in awhile I come across a post that makes me either laugh so hard I cry, or scream out an “Amen!“ and a ”Hallelujah!“ Today I came across a ”Hallelujah!” post.

    Earlier this afternoon we posted the story showing a smug White House Press Secretary Jay Carney laughing and mocking questions from reporters wondering why the President didn’t issue an Easter proclamation. Given Obama’s habit of issuing such statements on much lesser holidays (I wouldn‘t be surprised if secretary’s day is slated for special recognition), they were legitimate questions.

    Many sites covered the snub and more importantly Carney’s reaction. But none did it quite like Alex Alvarez over at Mediaite. Not only did she respond with a healthy dose of sarcasm, but she also included a great point.

    First the sarcasm, which took aim at Carney claiming he didn’t know whether Obama issued an Easter statement:

    And now her great point:

    Oh my God (of the New Testament)! Jay. Jay, Jay, Jaaaaaay. Jay. We really, honestly, sincerely do not think the reporter’s question was a sly, roundabout way of asking why “alleged Christian” Barack Obama intentionally neglected Easter while secretly burning a basketful of Cadbury eggs as a sacrifice to the giant Golden Calf/Donkey he keeps in the White House Red Room. And we don’t think the story here is “media attacks Obama over questions about his faith” but, rather, “White House Press Secretary apparently assumes he needs to drive home the fact that our President is indeed Christian and does not hate Easter, the Easter bunny, Jesus Christ, or delicious seasonal treats like marshmallow Peeps.”

    “Amen!” I say. “Hallelujah!”

  • david r

    The whole thing is that Obama likes to issue statements to commemorate the dates of religious events as a way of currying favor with other nations. Not a bad idea, really. Doesn’t cost anything. I think this is just more amateur hour from his staff. Which isn’t a real big thing either, apart from making wonder if other, more important things might also be neglected. Not a big deal. A simple memo would have prevented the whole thing. He’ll get it right next time.

  • Lou Sarah

    When every other story on Mediate is Trump/birther nonsense, you have the nerve to ask why anyone in the WH would be the slightest bit defensive? Any idiot who gives you a birther soundbite (Franklin Graham) is immediately posted! Gee Alex…. I have absolutely no idea why Barry Mau Mau Hussein O’Kenya’s press secretary would “scoff” at a perfectly legit question?

  • Azarkhan

    Alice67 said:
    And the onward march to a Theocracy continues.

    Wrong country, silly leftist. Try this one:

    Egypt’s liberals are losing the battle
    By Gideon Rachman

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/23f78174-6f70-11e0-952c-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1KZz5t6Ia

  • Jaurez

    BeckFinallyDemoted said:
    As can plainly be seen, White House proclamations and statements are two separate things..

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/proclamations/

    Split hairs much? LOL!

  • BeckFinallyDemoted

    The funny part is that if Obama did send out a straight Easter message you teabloggers would still tear him to shreds.

    Comments about Obama’s 2010 nice Christmas Greeting….

    “Nice message amounts to nothing .”

    “As for me, I hope our president is having a merry and Christ-centered Christmas. I doubt the latter, based not on his words but on his consistent actions to reduce our freedom.”

    “The only xmas greeting I’ll Accept from Jughead: “I’m Resigning ”

    “Oh, and Michelle, those of us who have been unemployed for more than a year, are thrilled that you and your spouse get to spend the holidays in a $3500 a day rental home on the beach in Hawaii.”

    “They are so fake its discusting.”

    I could go on forever…

  • Alex Alvarez

    Jax_n_Jill said:
    Hey Alex..did you see the praise for you?….

    http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2011/04/25/post-of-the-day-goes-to/

    I saw! They’d better cut that out, or I might develop something of an ego problem. Ahem.

  • Nacho

    BeckFinallyDemoted said:
    He sent out statements for Muslim Holidays and a proclamation for Earth Day.
    Here is the list of ALL Presidential proclamations. Not one for Easter or Muslim holidays. Ever. Not even by Bush.
    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/proclamations.php?year=2011&Submit=DISPLAY

    You are confused.
    This is what happens when you get your propaganda from Fox News.

    I guess the Prayer Breakfast, Mass and Easter Egg roll wasn’t enough for Christians.
    They wanted a card too.

    Good work.

  • Jax_n_Jill

    Alex Alvarez said:
    I saw! They’d better cut that out, or I might develop something of an ego problem. Ahem.

    lol…loved your post

  • Nacho

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    K, i’m going to take your shuffling as not even you being able to spin this one.

    That means you got told and you have nothing left. One your favorites along with “I’m tired of doing your homework for you, I’m taking my ball and going home.”

  • murf

    Lou Sarah said:
    When every other story on Mediate is Trump/birther nonsense, you have the nerve to ask why anyone in the WH would be the slightest bit defensive? Any idiot who gives you a birther soundbite (Franklin Graham) is immediately posted! Gee Alex…. I have absolutely no idea why Barry Mau Mau Hussein O’Kenya’s press secretary would “scoff” at a perfectly legit question?

    I bet you were a big Helen Thomas fan though , God knows you liberals LOVED her irrelevant questions for decades.

  • winning

    Well, it’s certainly a good thing that he did it in a high profile way, and was highly visible to most Americans. It’s very important to use Easter as a stage prop, thanks, man.

  • Nacho

    He certainly didn’t handle the question well.

  • OxyCon

    Alex Alvarez said:
    I saw! They’d better cut that out, or I might develop something of an ego problem. Ahem.

    …that and the liberals will start targeting you, beginning with the slugs who sit on top of buckets all day long in George Soro’s basement.

  • ndanielson

    Wow, I’m sure some of the liberal-crack-0bama defenders can test the veracity of this bit of news of their beloved’s great Easter adventure, Sunday.

    One has to dig into the blog notes from various reporters to piece together the content from the sermon. Aside from the First Couple being honored guests, Pastor Wallace Charles Smith also announces that his 4 week old grandson is attending church for the first time, and a pool reporter noted an interesting perspective on the infant:

    “[Pastor Smith] talked about how his baby grandson’s gurgling is actually “talking” because he is saying ‘I am here … they tried to write me off as 3/5 a person in the Constitution, but I am here right now … and is saying I am not going to let anybody from stopping me from being what God wants me to be.’”

    And from the link:

    The pastor hears American institutional racism in a baby’s gurgle? Do most people with infants hear Constitutional bigotry in their baby’s gibberish? Did any mention of the 3/5 clause or racism in general make it into the Easter service you attended? Is this pastor’s amazing leap from a baby bark to white oppression another coincidence to add to the list, or has he established a pattern of race baiting and white bashing in the past?

    No great research team was needed to uncover what comes next. The fact that a YouTube search immediately grants the answer only underscores how astronomically inept/lazy/biased the media can be. This is in fact another pastor who sees racism around every corner, preaches white hatred, and equates talk radio with the Klan, specifically mentioning Rush.

    He sure knows how to pick ‘em. Michelle must be so proud!
    http://www.wrno.com/pages/Morning_Show.html?article=8479610#ixzz1KXyYP5s7

  • OxyCon

    david r said:
    The whole thing is that Obama likes to issue statements to commemorate the dates of religious events as a way of currying favor with other nations. Not a bad idea, really. Doesn’t cost anything. I think this is just more amateur hour from his staff. Which isn’t a real big thing either, apart from making wonder if other, more important things might also be neglected. Not a big deal. A simple memo would have prevented the whole thing. He’ll get it right next time.

    He’ll get it right next time?

    This is how he started last year’s Easter statement:

    This is a week of faithful celebration. On Monday and Tuesday nights, Jewish families and friends in the United States and around the world gathered for a Seder to commemorate the Exodus from Egypt and the triumph of hope and perseverance over injustice and oppression. On Sunday, my family will join other Christians all over the world in marking the resurrection of Jesus Christ.And while we worship in different ways, we also remember the shared spirit of humanity that inhabits us all – Jews and Christians, Muslims and Hindus, believers and nonbelievers alike.

    He certainly didn’t get it right then.
    Jews and Christians, Muslims and Hindus, believers and nonbelievers alike
    On Easter? That’s either totally clueless or deliberately disrespectful, including muslims ans Atheists in an Eater statement. muslims are butchering Christians worldwide on a daily basis and Atheists like to dunk crosses in buckets of piss.

  • david r

    BeckFinallyDemoted said:
    The funny part is that if Obama did send out a straight Easter message you teabloggers would still tear him to shreds.

    Comments about Obama’s 2010 nice Christmas Greeting….

    “Nice message amounts to nothing .”

    “As for me, I hope our president is having a merry and Christ-centered Christmas. I doubt the latter, based not on his words but on his consistent actions to reduce our freedom.”

    “The only xmas greeting I’ll Accept from Jughead: “I’m Resigning ”

    “Oh, and Michelle, those of us who have been unemployed for more than a year, are thrilled that you and your spouse get to spend the holidays in a $3500 a day rental home on the beach in Hawaii.”

    “They are so fake its discusting.”

    I could go on forever…

    Great post.

  • Alice67

    OT ~ O’Donnell having Franklin Graham on next.

  • david r

    OxyCon said:
    He’ll get it right next time?

    This is how he started last year’s Easter statement:

    He certainly didn’t get it right then.
    Jews and Christians, Muslims and Hindus, believers and nonbelievers alike
    On Easter? That’s either totally clueless or deliberately disrespectful, including muslims ans Atheists in an Eater statement. muslims are butchering Christians worldwide on a daily basis and Atheists like to dunk crosses in buckets of piss.

    You got that right. How about sending out little pithy statements to commemorate such days? They do it at my job. Have a couple of smart guys staying abreast of these things, and writing little statements to justify their $300K / yr. jobs. That term used to be “press secretary.”

  • Pablo

    And we don’t think the story here is “media attacks Obama over questions about his faith” but rather, “White House Press Secretary apparently assumes he needs to drive home the fact that our President is indeed Christian and does not hate Easter, the Easter bunny, Jesus Christ, or delicious seasonal treats like marshmallow Peeps.”

    Yes, there’s that. And there’s also a pretty serious problem with this:

    The fact is, the President took his family to church in a very high profile way, to celebrate Easter.

    “He totally put on a show for Easter.” is not going to inspire confidence among Christians. I blame Matthew.

  • George C

    Lou Sarah said:
    Wow Alex, praise from Beck’s site… There’s one for the resume! Your parents must be so proud!

    You tell her anoymous internet poster !!!

  • winning

    david r said:
    Great post.

    Yeah, isn’t it? Straw man comments accusing conservatives of hatred regarding things they’ve never discussed are so cool! Go, liberals! We all know that conservatives suck, right? So it’s okay to put words in their mouths, and then have a discussion about how hateful their would-be remarks would have been!

  • ChrisNH

    It was tremendously insensitive to depict Obama as being parented by Apes; clearly, Jay Carney was.

  • ndanielson

    Thank God that John Edwards wasn’t in attendance at 0bama’s church this past Sunday. He might have been able to channel the unborn 0/5th’s babies that were in attendance that 0bama is down with.

    “[Pastor Smith] talked about how his baby grandson’s gurgling is actually “talking” because he is saying ‘I am here … they tried to write me off as 3/5 a person in the Constitution, but I am here right now … and is saying I am not going to let anybody from stopping me from being what God wants me to be.”

  • mlb

    The reporter did not ask what the Obama’s did for Easter – no one cares anymore, because we all know it for what it is – a photo op. In this case it was obviously reassure the black community that he is still one of them, by gracing them with his presence at a church founded by slaves. He is a “Christeaster” when he publicly makes it to church for Christmas and Easter.

    What she was asking was if the WH had sent a proclamation recognizing the Christian Holiday, acknowledging the day as spiritually significant for much of the population. Ironic that the press secretary completely jumps to the defensive, this entire administration is so prickly and sensitive. maybe if they were ever sincere, they wouldn’t have to resort to mockery.

  • Dem4Ever

    Muslims don’t celebrate Easter. Everybody knows this. Osama…oops…I mean Obama played basketball and watched kids roll eggs on the WH lawn, but no celebration.

  • Pokerdude777

    simple over hyped story about uhhhhhhh nothing… thanks for nothing..

  • Colorado_Conservative

    Just curious is all…Did Obama avoid eating any pork products this Easter?

  • Nacho

    mlb said:
    The reporter did not ask what the Obama’s did for Easter – no one cares anymore, because we all know it for what it is – a photo op. In this case it was obviously reassure the black community that he is still one of them, by gracing them with his presence at a church founded by slaves. He is a “Christeaster” when he publicly makes it to church for Christmas and Easter.

    What she was asking was if the WH had sent a proclamation recognizing the Christian Holiday, acknowledging the day as spiritually significant for much of the population. Ironic that the press secretary completely jumps to the defensive, this entire administration is so prickly and sensitive. maybe if they were ever sincere, they wouldn’t have to resort to mockery.

    I believe what the press secretary was saying, although very poorly, is this case, was actions speak louder or as loud as words. Do you think releasing a statement isn’t any different than a photo opportunity?

    As far as “if WH had sent a proclamation recognizing the Christian Holiday, acknowledging the day as spiritually significant for much of the population…” From what I’ve seen or not seen, No President has done that.

  • Calvin

    Nacho said:
    As far as “if WH had sent a proclamation recognizing the Christian Holiday, acknowledging the day as spiritually significant for much of the population…” From what I’ve seen or not seen, No President has done that.

    President Obama failed to release a statement or a proclamation recognizing the national observance of Easter Sunday, Christianity’s most sacred holiday.

    By comparison, the White House has released statements recognizing the observance of major Muslim holidays and released statements in 2010 on Ramadan, Eid-ul-Fitr, Hajj, and Eid-ul-Adha.

    The president did release an Easter statement last year, but it was heavily criticized after it referenced Jews, Muslims, Hindus, and people of no faith at all.

    Nacho said:
    I believe what the press secretary was saying, although very poorly, is this case, was actions speak louder or as loud as words. Do you think releasing a statement isn’t any different than a photo opportunity?

    Let me quote Pablo:

    Pablo said:
    He totally put on a show for Easter.” is not going to inspire confidence among Christians. I blame Matthew.

  • winning

    Nacho said:
    Do you think releasing a statement isn’t any different than a photo opportunity?

    If you can’t tell the difference between using Easter as a stage prop and photo op, and releasing a nice holiday proclamation, you’re quite stupid. I don’t say this as a Christian, since I’m not, but for someone who pretends to be Christian for political gain, the guy could at least pay reverence to the holiest Christian holiday the same way he’s done with many other holidays.

    Actually, though, it’s consistent with most of the things he does. He’ll pretend to be something he’s not, proceed to thumb his nose at those he purports to support or be part of, and then have his minions yell racist at those who call him out.

  • Nacho

    Calvin said:

    I was addressing the “proclamation” issue brought up mlb, which I still have not seen evidence of any President doing for Easter.

    He did put on a show, just the same as a statement would have been. Christians that look to the President to inspire confidence are extremist that don’t deserve anything more than a show. Same as the Muslims and Jews and Hindus and Atheists.

  • Nacho

    winning said:
    If you can’t tell the difference between using Easter as a stage prop and photo op, and releasing a nice holiday proclamation, you’re quite stupid.

    A nice holiday statement to blow sunshine up the religious folk assholes should have been made, he screwed up and somebody is going to pay.

    To make a big deal about is quite stupid.

  • DavidEddie

    You’re right about Nowruz being Iranian, but it definitely isn’t “Muslim.” It has been celebrated since Zoroastrian times, perhaps 3000 years ago, and long, long before Islam!

  • felixw

    BeckFinallyDemoted said:
    This from the guy who says the media never concentrate on the important issues like War and Economy.
    Well look at him now…happy to jump on the this trite bandwagon!!

    Yes, I made a joke about the President, and yes the liberal media is scared of the big issues — the economy, the war fronts, the border, the deficits — since they are all toxic to the President. If you want more coverage of big issues, complain to your friends at MSNBC — the Trump birther network — and not to me.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Nacho says:

    I believe what the press secretary was saying, although very poorly, is this case, was actions speak louder or as loud as words

    Then what should his action of recognizing pretty much every other religion, and Earth Day and other non-holidays, but blatantly ignoring Easter tell us? Couple that with him leaving out “endowed by our creator” everytime, and I think he’s saying something pretty obviously. What do you think, nacho?

  • Alice67

    ChrisNH said:
    See me eat lobster that’s too expensive for you! See me go on vacations that you can’t afford!

    I thought you righties were all for individual wealth. Why the jealousy?

  • Nacho

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Then what should his action of recognizing pretty much every other religion, and Earth Day and other non-holidays, but blatantly ignoring Easter tell us?

    I’m not really surprised how you missed the poorly executed answer by the President’s press secretary making it VERY clear that he and his family “blatantly” did not ignore Easter.

    You are a sorry sack.

  • david r

    winning said:
    david r

    I liked the parts in quotes.

  • Alice67

    OxyCon said:
    Jews and Christians, Muslims and Hindus, believers and nonbelievers alike
    On Easter? That’s either totally clueless or deliberately disrespectful, including muslims ans Atheists in an Eater statement.

    Jesus’ teaching turned into a religion of exclusion. Now THAT’s sacrilegious.

  • mlb

    Nacho said:
    I was addressing the “proclamation” issue brought up mlb, which I still have not seen evidence of any President doing for Easter.

    He did put on a show, just the same as a statement would have been. Christians that look to the President to inspire confidence are extremist that don’t deserve anything more than a show. Same as the Muslims and Jews and Hindus and Atheists.

    I would hardly say they are ‘extremists’ if that’s the analogy you want to go with, then what do you think of the AfroAmerican community who have looked upon him as their ‘savior’ ? However, to an extent I agree -that’s why I said no one cares what Obama did on Easter – real Christians do not look to the President for ‘inspiration’ they have the written Word of God – far better that any speech or declaration by Obama. I will even concede that words or a proclamation from this President mean absolutely nothing as well, as our nation has come to find out. Most look to the President not for inspiration but leadership and respect.
    The Press Secretary should have just kept his mouth shut and said he didn’t know rather than point out – “Hey look! the president went to church – goodness sakes isn’t that enough for you Christians” America can only suffer a fool so long…

  • mlb

    Alice67 said:
    I thought you righties were all for individual wealth. Why the jealousy?

    Jealousy!? Oh I am sorry, you must be under the delusion that Obama pays for his own vacations, parties and entertainment and never uses tax payer dollars to fly in lobster from Hawaii or travel to Italy with an entourage of nobodies. Righties are absolutely all for individual wealth – NOT spending OPM, when telling those very same people they need to cut back and sacrifice.

  • TheEagle

    TheEagle said:
    My question is does the white house traditionally put out a statement on easter? Was one put out last year? Did past presidents put out one every year?

    Well I found the answer to my question: no other President has issued a proclamation for Easter.
    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/38447_Wingnut_Fail_of_the_Day-_Obama_Didnt_Proclaim_Easter_%28But_Neither_Has_Any_Other_President%29
    And once again President Obama is being held to a higher standard than any other President and Mediaite is carrying water for Fox News.

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

    The actions of the First Family here is not the issue, it is the actions of the administration. As Alex pointed out in the article, they disseminate proclamations with a glib facility for most arcane events and occassions. It may not be impactful and deeply important to the lives of U.S. citizens, but it is illustrative and revealing to note the White House did not recognize a prominent holiday.

    The very fact that they found a way to acknowledge Earth Day while disregarding Good Friday AND Easter begs these questions to be asked. For those saying it is no big deal and of little significance, then why could they not find a way to make the traditional proclamation? The fact that they made the effort on behalf of Earth Day seems to show they put an emphasis on that event over the solemn holidays. “Wright Brothers Day” was import enough enough in the eyes of this administration to warrant mention, but not Easter? It is not outlandish to ask just what exactly is going on there, and what message are they sending out?

  • Jaurez

    TheEagle said:
    Well I found the answer to my question: no other President has issued a proclamation for Easter.
    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/38447_Wingnut_Fail_of_the_Day-_Obama_Didnt_Proclaim_Easter_%28But_Neither_Has_Any_Other_President%29
    And once again President Obama is being held to a higher standard than any other President and Mediaite is carrying water for Fox News.

    As you use a source that packs water for Obama.

  • Nacho

    Jaurez said:
    As you use a source that packs water for Obama.

    This was the source: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/proclamations.php

    You fvcking wingnuts are so brainwashed with the liberal biased bullshit that you refuse to listen to logic.

  • Nacho

    MartiniShark said:
    The very fact that they found a way to acknowledge Earth Day while disregarding Good Friday AND Easter begs these questions to be asked. For those saying it is no big deal and of little significance, then why could they not find a way to make the traditional proclamation? The fact that they made the effort on behalf of Earth Day seems to show they put an emphasis on that event over the solemn holidays. “Wright Brothers Day” was import enough enough in the eyes of this administration to warrant mention, but not Easter? It is not outlandish to ask just what exactly is going on there, and what message are they sending out?

    I Have not seen one “traditional proclamation” by ANY President for Good Friday or Easter. Show proof that you have.

    You are another FoxNews zombie.

  • Jaurez

    Nacho said:
    This was the source: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/proclamations.php

    You fvcking wingnuts are so brainwashed with the liberal biased bullshit that you refuse to listen to logic.

    Change names much?

  • Nacho

    Jaurez said:
    Change names much?

    That’s your response? What a joke.

    To answer your question, I only use this name.

    You Fvcking tinfoiled hat Lemming, What did find from that source?

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/proclamations.php

  • IAPollyTicks

    Alex…after seeing your avatar in a response earlier…all I can say is “Internet FOREVER!!”

    I love Allie and Hyperbole! SOOOOOO incredibly glad to see her show up here. (And, ps, I have her “adult trophy” pic as my avatar on FB! LOL)

  • Alice67

    mlb said:
    Jealousy!? Oh I am sorry, you must be under the delusion that Obama pays for his own vacations, parties and entertainment and never uses tax payer dollars to fly in lobster from Hawaii or travel to Italy with an entourage of nobodies. Righties are absolutely all for individual wealth – NOT spending OPM, when telling those very same people they need to cut back and sacrifice.

    Then become POTUS and get the perks. It comes with the job. Or quit whining about it.

  • OxyCon

    Alice67 said:
    Jesus’ teaching turned into a religion of exclusion. Now THAT’s sacrilegious.

    You obviously know little to nothing about Christianity and the Easter holiday season. Hint…Jesus died so that sinners WHO BELIEVE IN HIM may go to heaven. I think that excludes practicing muslims, Hindus and Atheists, who should not be mentioned in any statement regarding the Easter holiday season.

  • black and WHITE

    Just more blatent proof Obama, even if found to be born in Hawaii, is not a ” real ” American but rather a cancer ON America and should be gone now.

    Ironically, despite his best efforts we are still a country of laws. Those same laws, which he seeks to abolish and or circumvent on a daily basis guanantee him the right to finish out his term.

    Now if that isn’t a giant kick in the head to ” real ” Americans I don’t know what is.

  • mediadoubt

    black and WHITE said:
    Just more blatent proof Obama, even if found to be born in Hawaii, is not a ” real ” American but rather a cancer ON America and should be gone now.

    Ironically, despite his best efforts we are still a country of laws. Those same laws, which he seeks to abolish and or circumvent on a daily basis guanantee him the right to finish out his term.

    Now if that isn’t a giant kick in the head to ” real ” Americans I don’t know what is.

    I get that you’ve been kicked in the head. How many times did you say that was?

  • black and WHITE

    mediadoubt said:
    There seems to be a throughline to your postings. Have you considered talking to your local priest about this obsession? I think you’d get some real “perspective.”

    You could even bring your soap.

    A D-bag like you who kicks God in the balls, calling him a joke on a daily basis, referring ME to a priest is a stretch, even for morally bankrupt blowhard like you.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Nacho said:
    I Have not seen one “traditional proclamation” by ANY President for Good Friday or Easter. Show proof that you have.

    By comparison, the White House has released statements recognizing the observance of major Muslim holidays and released statements in 2010 on Ramadan, Eid-ul-Fitr, Hajj, and Eid-ul-Adha.

    The White House also failed to release a statement marking Good Friday. Likewise, the president’s weekend address mentioned neither Good Friday or Easter.

    Presidential Message for Easter 2007: ‘Rejoice!’
    http://www.christiannewswire.com/index.php?module=releases&task=view&releaseID=2711

    President Bush pens Easter message
    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/president_bush_pens_easter_message/

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Easter Message From President Reagan
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEtevsyhmxI&feature=player_embedded

    Presidential Passover and Easter greetings from Bush, Carter and Reagan — Herbert Hoover, too
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/04/easter-passover-ronald-reagan.html

  • ChrisNH

    Alice67 said:
    I thought you righties were all for individual wealth. Why the jealousy?

    I thought Lefties were all for ‘fairness.’ Where’s MY lobster? Where are MY eleven vacations a year to elite resorts?

  • Rio

    TheEagle said:
    Well I found the answer to my question: no other President has issued a proclamation for Easter.

    To be clear, Obama did NOT issue a message, statement or proclamation commemorating Easter to the country. To say “no other President has issued….” is splitting hairs. Past president have addressed the nation in some form on Easter.

    Note, President Bush “traditionally:

    By contrast, former President Bush traditionally included Scripture passages in his Easter messages and made a point to explain what Easter is about. Like Obama, though, he did not release statements marking Good Friday.

    In 2007, he said, “The resurrection of Jesus Christ is the most important event of the Christian faith.” “On this powerful day, let us join together and give thanks to the Almighty for the glory of His grace,” he added.

    In his 2008 Easter message, President Bush said: “The Resurrection of Jesus Christ reminds people around the world of the presence of a faithful God ….”

    http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2011/04/25/wh-fails-release-easter-proclamation

    And, you can go to this site and listen to one of Reagan’s Easter messages to the country:

    http://www.citizens4freedom.com/Articles/tabid/1387/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/4635/WH-Fails-to-Release-Easter-Proclamation–What-a-surprise–In-contrast-hear-what-Reagan-had-to-say.aspx

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

    Nacho said:
    I Have not seen one “traditional proclamation” by ANY President for Good Friday or Easter. Show proof that you have. You are another FoxNews zombie.

    er, no – don’t watch Fox, you pompous tool. It has to do with the fact that they made the effort to signify Earth Day amid the religious holidays. Alex himself pointed out in this piece that the WH made the effort to signify Earth Day, and “Wright Brothers Day”.

    Here’s a couple by the way from Bush.
    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=45646#axzz1Kd1wX0zu
    http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2008/03/20080321.html

    So what kind of zombie does that make you?

  • Pablo

    Alice67 said:
    Jesus’ teaching turned into a religion of exclusion. Now THAT’s sacrilegious.

    Matthew 11:20-23

    20Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not:

    21Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.

    22But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you.

    23And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.

    Damned them to Hell for their disbelief and lack of repentance, He did.

    This faith of yours, Ellen, does it have mescaline as a sacrament?

  • More Liberty5

    Considering all the other proclamations he has sent out I believe it was a fair question.

  • TheEagle

    Rio said:
    To be clear, Obama did NOT issue a message, statement or proclamation commemorating Easter to the country. To say “no other President has issued….” is splitting hairs. Past president have addressed the nation in some form on Easter. Note, President Bush “traditionally: http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2011/04/25/wh-fails-release-easter-proclamation And, you can go to this site and listen to one of Reagan’s Easter messages to the country: http://www.citizens4freedom.com/Articles/tabid/1387/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/4635/WH-Fails-to-Release-Easter-Proclamation–What-a-surprise–In-contrast-hear-what-Reagan-had-to-say.aspx

    And this President has issued Easter statements in the past as well. http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/04/11/obamas-weekly-address/
    He just didn’t this year. Instead he went to church with his family.

  • TheEagle

    Jaurez said:
    As you use a source that packs water for Obama.

    Can you dispute the facts they are presenting?

  • TheEagle

    Rio said:
    To be clear, Obama did NOT issue a message, statement or proclamation commemorating Easter to the country. To say “no other President has issued….” is splitting hairs. Past president have addressed the nation in some form on Easter. Note, President Bush “traditionally: http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2011/04/25/wh-fails-release-easter-proclamation And, you can go to this site and listen to one of Reagan’s Easter messages to the country: http://www.citizens4freedom.com/Articles/tabid/1387/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/4635/WH-Fails-to-Release-Easter-Proclamation–What-a-surprise–In-contrast-hear-what-Reagan-had-to-say.aspx

    No other President has issued an official proclamation: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/proclamations.php

    This President has addressed the nation in some form in past years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPid9BLQQcg

    So unless you can show the every President has made a statement every year that they were in office, it is an unfair criticism.

  • TheEagle

    More Liberty5 said:
    Considering all the other proclamations he has sent out I believe it was a fair question.

    Here is a list of all the proclamations made by President Bush during his last year in office, please point out the one for Easter.

    President Date Title
    George W. Bush January 14, 2008 Proclamation 8215 – Religious Freedom Day, 2008
    George W. Bush January 16, 2008 Proclamation 8216 – Martin Luther King, Jr., Federal Holiday, 2008
    George W. Bush January 18, 2008 Proclamation 8217 – National Sanctity of Human Life Day, 2008
    George W. Bush January 28, 2008 Proclamation 8218 – National African American History Month, 2008
    George W. Bush January 28, 2008 Proclamation 8219 – Sixth Anniversary of USA Freedom Corps, 2008
    George W. Bush February 1, 2008 Proclamation 8220 – American Heart Month, 2008
    George W. Bush February 28, 2008 Proclamation 8221 – American Red Cross Month, 2008
    George W. Bush February 28, 2008 Proclamation 8222 – Save Your Vision Week, 2008
    George W. Bush February 29, 2008 Proclamation 8223 – Irish-American Heritage Month, 2008
    George W. Bush February 29, 2008 Proclamation 8224 – National Consumer Protection Week, 2008
    George W. Bush March 10, 2008 Proclamation 8225 – Women’s History Month, 2008
    George W. Bush March 14, 2008 Proclamation 8226 – National Poison Prevention Week, 2008
    George W. Bush March 20, 2008 Proclamation 8227 – Greek Independence Day: A National Day of Celebration of Greek and American Democracy, 2008
    George W. Bush March 28, 2008 Proclamation 8228 – To Modify the Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States and For Other Purposes
    George W. Bush April 1, 2008 Proclamation 8229 – Cancer Control Month, 2008
    George W. Bush April 1, 2008 Proclamation 8230 – National Child Abuse Prevention Month, 2008
    George W. Bush April 1, 2008 Proclamation 8231 – National Donate Life Month, 2008
    George W. Bush April 1, 2008 Proclamation 8232 – National Fair Housing Month, 2008
    George W. Bush April 4, 2008 Proclamation 8233 – National Tartan Day, 2008
    George W. Bush April 8, 2008 Proclamation 8234 – National Former Prisoner of War Recognition Day, 2008
    George W. Bush April 9, 2008 Proclamation 8235 – National D.A.R.E. Day, 2008
    George W. Bush April 10, 2008 Proclamation 8236 – Pan American Day and Pan American Week, 2008
    George W. Bush April 11, 2008 Proclamation 8237 – National Crime Victims’ Rights Week, 2008
    George W. Bush April 15, 2008 Proclamation 8238 – Education and Sharing Day, U.S.A., 2008
    George W. Bush April 15, 2008 Proclamation 8239 – National Park Week, 2008
    George W. Bush April 17, 2008 Proclamation 8240 – To Take Certain Actions Under the African Growth and Opportunity Act and the Generalized System of Preferences and for Other Purposes
    George W. Bush April 17, 2008 Proclamation 8241 – Small Business Week, 2008
    George W. Bush April 21, 2008 Proclamation 8242 – National Day of Prayer, 2008
    George W. Bush April 22, 2008 Proclamation 8243 – Older Americans Month, 2008
    George W. Bush April 22, 2008 Proclamation 8244 – National Volunteer Week, 2008
    George W. Bush April 22, 2008 Proclamation 8245 – Loyalty Day, 2008
    George W. Bush April 25, 2008 Proclamation 8246 – Malaria Awareness Day, 2008
    George W. Bush April 29, 2008 Proclamation 8247 – Asian/Pacific American Heritage Month, 2008
    George W. Bush April 29, 2008 Proclamation 8248 – Jewish American Heritage Month, 2008
    George W. Bush April 29, 2008 Proclamation 8249 – National Physical Fitness and Sports Month, 2008
    George W. Bush April 30, 2008 Proclamation 8250 – Law Day, U.S.A., 2008
    George W. Bush May 2, 2008 Proclamation 8251 – National Charter Schools Week, 2008
    George W. Bush May 5, 2008 Proclamation 8252 – Military Spouse Day, 2008
    George W. Bush May 8, 2008 Proclamation 8253 – Mother’s Day, 2008
    George W. Bush May 9, 2008 Proclamation 8254 – National Defense Transportation Day and National Transportation Week, 2008
    George W. Bush May 9, 2008 Proclamation 8255 – Peace Officers’ Memorial Day and Police Week, 2008
    George W. Bush May 15, 2008 Proclamation 8256 – National Safe Boating Week, 2008
    George W. Bush May 15, 2008 Proclamation 8257 – World Trade Week, 2008
    George W. Bush May 20, 2008 Proclamation 8258 – A Day of Solidarity With the Cuban People, 2008
    George W. Bush May 21, 2008 Proclamation 8259 – National Maritime Day, 2008
    George W. Bush May 22, 2008 Proclamation 8260 – Prayer for Peace, Memorial Day, 2008
    George W. Bush May 23, 2008 Proclamation 8261 – National Hurricane Preparedness Week, 2008
    George W. Bush May 29, 2008 Proclamation 8262 – Caribbean-American Heritage Month, 2008
    George W. Bush May 29, 2008 Proclamation 8263 – National Homeownership Month, 2008
    George W. Bush May 30, 2008 Proclamation 8264 – Black Music Month, 2008
    George W. Bush May 30, 2008 Proclamation 8265 – Great Outdoors Month, 2008
    George W. Bush May 30, 2008 Proclamation 8266 – Italian Independence Day, 2008
    George W. Bush May 30, 2008 Proclamation 8267 – National Child’s Day, 2008
    George W. Bush June 2, 2008 Proclamation 8268 – National Oceans Month, 2008
    George W. Bush June 6, 2008 Proclamation 8269 – Flag Day and National Flag Week, 2008
    George W. Bush June 12, 2008 Proclamation 8270 – Father’s Day, 2008
    George W. Bush June 26, 2008 Proclamation 8271 – Termination of the Exercise of Authorities Under the Trading With the Enemy Act With Respect to North Korea
    George W. Bush June 30, 2008 Proclamation 8272 – To Modify Duty-Free Treatment Under the Generalized System of Preferences, Take Certain Actions Under the African Growth and Opportunity Act, and for Other Purposes
    George W. Bush July 14, 2008 Proclamation 8273 – FBI Day, 2008
    George W. Bush July 18, 2008 Proclamation 8274 – Captive Nations Week, 2008
    George W. Bush July 23, 2008 Proclamation 8275 – 60th Anniversary of the Integration of the United States Armed Forces
    George W. Bush July 24, 2008 Proclamation 8276 – Anniversary of the Americans with Disabilities Act, 2008
    George W. Bush July 24, 2008 Proclamation 8277 – Parents’ Day, 2008
    George W. Bush August 22, 2008 Proclamation 8278 – Women’s Equality Day, 2008
    George W. Bush August 25, 2008 Proclamation 8279 – National Prostate Cancer Awareness Month, 2008
    George W. Bush August 25, 2008 Proclamation 8280 – Minority Enterprise Development Week, 2008
    George W. Bush August 26, 2008 Proclamation 8281 – National Ovarian Cancer Awareness Month, 2008
    George W. Bush August 26, 2008 Proclamation 8282 – National Preparedness Month, 2008
    George W. Bush August 27, 2008 Proclamation 8283 – National Alcohol and Drug Addiction Recovery Month, 2008
    George W. Bush August 28, 2008 Proclamation 8284 – National Days of Prayer and Remembrance, 2008
    George W. Bush September 3, 2008 Proclamation 8285 – National Historically Black Colleges and Universities Week, 2008
    George W. Bush September 8, 2008 Proclamation 8286 – Patriot Day, 2008
    George W. Bush September 12, 2008 Proclamation 8287 – National Hispanic Heritage Month, 2008
    George W. Bush September 12, 2008 Proclamation 8288 – National Employer Support of the Guard and Reserve Week, 2008
    George W. Bush September 17, 2008 Proclamation 8289 – Constitution Day and Citizenship Day, Constitution Week, 2008
    George W. Bush September 17, 2008 Proclamation 8290 – National POW/MIA Recognition Day, 2008
    George W. Bush September 18, 2008 Proclamation 8291 – National Farm Safety and Health Week, 2008
    George W. Bush September 19, 2008 Proclamation 8292 – Family Day, 2008
    George W. Bush September 24, 2008 Proclamation 8293 – Gold Star Mother’s Day, 2008
    George W. Bush September 26, 2008 Proclamation 8294 – To Implement Amendments to the Burmese Freedom and Democracy Act of 2003
    George W. Bush September 26, 2008 Proclamation 8295 – National Hunting and Fishing Day, 2008
    George W. Bush September 30, 2008 Proclamation 8296 – To Modify Duty-Free Treatment Under the Caribbean Basin Economic Recovery Act and For Other Purposes
    George W. Bush October 1, 2008 Proclamation 8297 – National Breast Cancer Awareness Month, 2008
    George W. Bush October 1, 2008 Proclamation 8298 – National Disability Employment Awareness Month, 2008
    George W. Bush October 1, 2008 Proclamation 8299 – National Domestic Violence Awareness Month, 2008
    George W. Bush October 3, 2008 Proclamation 8300 – Child Health Day, 2008
    George W. Bush October 3, 2008 Proclamation 8301 – German-American Day, 2008
    George W. Bush October 3, 2008 Proclamation 8302 – Fire Prevention Week, 2008
    George W. Bush October 8, 2008 Proclamation 8303 – Leif Erikson Day, 2008
    George W. Bush October 10, 2008 Proclamation 8304 – National School Lunch Week, 2008
    George W. Bush October 10, 2008 Proclamation 8305 – Columbus Day, 2008
    George W. Bush October 10, 2008 Proclamation 8306 – General Pulaski Memorial Day, 2008
    George W. Bush October 13, 2008 Proclamation 8307 – White Cane Safety Day, 2008
    George W. Bush October 16, 2008 Proclamation 8308 – National Character Counts Week, 2008
    George W. Bush October 16, 2008 Proclamation 8309 – National Forest Products Week, 2008
    George W. Bush October 23, 2008 Proclamation 8310 – United Nations Day, 2008
    George W. Bush October 29, 2008 Proclamation 8311 – National Family Caregivers Month, 2008
    George W. Bush October 29, 2008 Proclamation 8312 – National Alzheimer’s Disease Awareness Month, 2008
    George W. Bush October 30, 2008 Proclamation 8313 – National American Indian Heritage Month, 2008
    George W. Bush October 30, 2008 Proclamation 8314 – National Diabetes Month, 2008
    George W. Bush October 31, 2008 Proclamation 8315 – National Adoption Month, 2008
    George W. Bush October 31, 2008 Proclamation 8316 – National Hospice Month, 2008
    George W. Bush October 31, 2008 Proclamation 8317 – Veterans Day, 2008
    George W. Bush November 7, 2008 Proclamation 8318 – World Freedom Day, 2008
    George W. Bush November 14, 2008 Proclamation 8319 – America Recycles Day, 2008
    George W. Bush November 19, 2008 Proclamation 8320 – National Farm-City Week, 2008
    George W. Bush November 20, 2008 Proclamation 8321 – National Family Week, 2008
    George W. Bush November 21, 2008 Proclamation 8322 – Thanksgiving Day, 2008
    George W. Bush November 25, 2008 Proclamation 8323 – To Provide for Duty-Free Treatment Under the Earned Import Allowance Program, and for Other Purposes
    George W. Bush November 26, 2008 Proclamation 8324 – National Drunk and Drugged Driving Prevention Month, 2008
    George W. Bush November 26, 2008 Proclamation 8325 – World AIDS Day, 2008
    George W. Bush December 5, 2008 Proclamation 8326 – National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day, 2008
    George W. Bush December 5, 2008 Proclamation 8327 – Establishment of the World War II Valor in the Pacific National Monument
    George W. Bush December 8, 2008 Proclamation 8328 – Human Rights Day, Bill of Rights Day, and Human Rights Week, 2008
    George W. Bush December 16, 2008 Proclamation 8329 – Wright Brothers Day, 2008
    George W. Bush December 19, 2008 Proclamation 8330 – To Take Certain Actions Under the African Growth and Opportunity Act and the Generalized System of Preferences
    George W. Bush December 23, 2008 Proclamation 8331 – To Implement the Dominican Republic-Central America-United States Free Trade Agreement With Respect to Costa Rica and for Other Purposes
    George W. Bush December 29, 2008 Proclamation 8332 – To Implement the United States-Oman Free Trade Agreement
    George W. Bush December 30, 2008 Proclamation 8333 – National Mentoring Month, 2009
    George W. Bush December 31, 2008 Proclamation 8334 – To Extend Duty-Free Treatment for Certain Agricultural Products of Israel and for Other Purposes

    You can’t because there is none so it is not a fair question.

  • Rio

    TheEagle said:
    So unless you can show the every President has made a statement every year that they were in office, it is an unfair criticism.

    Changing the debate, are you? This is the previous statement you made:

    TheEagle said:
    Well I found the answer to my question: no other President has issued a proclamation for Easter.

    I provided links to President Bush and President Reagan regarding their Easter messages to the country, Sara in Italy also provided information adding Carter and Hoover. You said no other President issued a “proclamation.” “messages, statements, greetings, proclamations,” etc., whatever one chooses to call it, does not take away from the fact that previouse presidents addressed the nation on Easter.

    I had not denied that Obama has made any Easter statements to the nation in the past, we are aware of his ham handed address to the nation that included, faiths that do not celebrate Easter, this year…..zip, nothing other than generically mentioning Easter in his Saturday address. The debate in this thread happens to be about THIS YEAR. He did not address the nation…….THIS YEAR, yet, for some reason you want to redirect the conversation by tossing in a RED HERRING. Not going to work, sparky.

    sarainitaly said:
    Presidential Passover and Easter greetings from Bush, Carter and Reagan — Herbert Hoover, too
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/04/easter-passover-ronald-reagan.html

  • Rio

    TheEagle said:
    Here is a list of all the proclamations made by President Bush during his last year in office, please point out the one for Easter.

    Still hung up on……”proclamation?” When comments have included video and text of past presidents Easter,,,,message…greeting…speech…..statement. etc. all references I took from googling “obama’s Easter message.” The title of this thread happens to be, Jay Carney’s Awkward Response to Questions Over Lack Of White House Easter……..STATEMENT.

    Because “proclamation” was chosen as the focus word by you, you took it upon yourself to waste bandwidth posting irrelevance. way….to…go….. without proving your point……at…all. Just proof that you are deliberatly locking yourself into a RED HERRING to prove…..well, nothing.

  • Dem4Ever

    mediadoubt said:
    The reason you have no credibility is you have no sense of proportion, and to the extent that you represent likely voters opposed to Obama, you will drag your nominee (whoever it is) down.

    And that’s a good thing.

    Now, don’t you go and get all homicidal on us when your boy loses his bid for re-election…ok?

  • black and WHITE

    TheEagle said:
    So unless you can show the every President has made a statement every year that they were in office, it is an unfair criticism.

    By the way, Obama is only allegedly the president, but that still does not give him a free pass. The days of ‘ affirmative action ‘ are long gone in this country.

  • TheEagle

    Rio said:
    Changing the debate, are you? This is the previous statement you made: I provided links to President Bush and President Reagan regarding their Easter messages to the country, Sara in Italy also provided information adding Carter and Hoover. You said no other President issued a “proclamation.” “messages, statements, greetings, proclamations,” etc., whatever one chooses to call it, does not take away from the fact that previouse presidents addressed the nation on Easter. I had not denied that Obama has made any Easter statements to the nation in the past, we are aware of his ham handed address to the nation that included, faiths that do not celebrate Easter, this year…..zip, nothing other than generically mentioning Easter in his Saturday address. The debate in this thread happens to be about THIS YEAR. He did not address the nation…….THIS YEAR, yet, for some reason you want to redirect the conversation by tossing in a RED HERRING. Not going to work, sparky.

    Not changing the debate but addressing your point. The President has made statements about Easter in the past: http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/04/11/obamas-weekly-address/
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPid9BLQQcg

    Unless you can show that every President made a statement every year they were in office then it is an unfair criticism.

  • TheEagle

    Rio said:
    Still hung up on……”proclamation?” When comments have included video and text of past presidents Easter,,,,message…greeting…speech…..statement. etc. all references I took from googling “obama’s Easter message.” The title of this thread happens to be, Jay Carney’s Awkward Response to Questions Over Lack Of White House Easter……..STATEMENT. Because “proclamation” was chosen as the focus word by you, you took it upon yourself to waste bandwidth posting irrelevance. way….to…go….. without proving your point……at…all. Just proof that you are deliberatly locking yourself into a RED HERRING to prove…..well, nothing.

    I was addressing this comment:

    More Liberty5 said:
    Considering all the other proclamations he has sent out I believe it was a fair question.

    So if you think the use of the word ‘proclamation’ is a red herring; please take it up with More Liberty5.

  • Rio

    TheEagle said:
    Not changing the debate but addressing your point.

    You mean, out of several points I made you chose to ignore this point?

    TheEagle said:
    I had not denied that Obama has made any Easter statements to the nation in the past

    And, yes, you are changing the debate. Also, I will not research to find out how many presidents may have missed an Easter message, it appears that that is of interest to you, so, be my guest, you do it, go get em tiger.

    I will share with you a website that posts the messages President Bush gave…every….single…year….he…was…in….office. It also includes Obama’s first Easter message, proclamation, statement, etc:

    http://www.theholidayspot.com/easter/presidential_proclamations.htm

    But, the site neglected to post Obama’s 2010 message, might be an old site, so I will even provide the 2010 message for you:

    Obama Removes Jesus from Easter Message
    http://www.torenewamerica.com/obama-removes-jesus-from-easter-message

    Happy now?

  • Rio

    TheEagle said:
    So if you think the use of the word ‘proclamation’ is a red herring; please take it up with More Liberty5.

    Bit thick up there?

  • TheEagle

    Rio said:
    You mean, out of several points I made you chose to ignore this point? And, yes, you are changing the debate. Also, I will not research to find out how many presidents may have missed an Easter message, it appears that that is of interest to you, so, be my guest, you do it, go get em tiger. I will share with you a website that posts the messages President Bush gave…every….single…year….he…was…in….office. It also includes Obama’s first Easter message, proclamation, statement, etc: http://www.theholidayspot.com/easter/presidential_proclamations.htm But, the site neglected to post Obama’s 2010 message, might be an old site, so I will even provide the 2010 message for you: Obama Removes Jesus from Easter Messagehttp://www.torenewamerica.com/obama-removes-jesus-from-easter-message Happy now?

    So by addressing your point, it is changing the debate? Doesn’t that mean you changed the debate first?

    You proved that President Bush made an Easter statement every year, so you only have 42 more Presidents to go. Because only if every President made one, every single year he was in office; then the criticism is unfair.

    At least you acknowledge that he made a statement in 2010. But by criticizing the content of that statement, aren’t you changing the debate yet again?

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

    So basically this is being reduced to keeping score. Only if EVERY President made an Easter statement then it is a fair criticism of Obama. Except, that is not what has this story on people’s minds.

    The WH endeavored to release a proclamation on Friday on behalf of Earth Day, with the President’s name affixed at the bottom — 8 paragraphs, and 600 words long. However they made no such effort towards the religious holidays falling on the same weekend, this amid an insistence by the media that Obama is in fact a Christian practitioner. It lends the appearance therefore on what the administration is putting its priority upon.

    If keeping score on past administrations is the true barometer on this issue then tell us how many prior Presidents went ahead and made proclamations for Earth Day while at the same time ignoring Good Friday and Easter.

  • TheEagle

    MartiniShark said:
    So basically this is being reduced to keeping score. Only if EVERY President made an Easter statement then it is a fair criticism of Obama. Except, that is not what has this story on people’s minds. The WH endeavored to release a proclamation on Friday on behalf of Earth Day, with the President’s name affixed at the bottom — 8 paragraphs, and 600 words long. However they made no such effort towards the religious holidays falling on the same weekend, this amid an insistence by the media that Obama is in fact a Christian practitioner. It lends the appearance therefore on what the administration is putting its priority upon. If keeping score on past administrations is the true barometer on this issue then tell us how many prior Presidents went ahead and made proclamations for Earth Day while at the same time ignoring Good Friday and Easter.

    Why it is Earth Day versus Easter? Earth Day is not an antheist holiday. And since Easter moves around there are not many years they fall on the same weekend. But Easter fell on March 23rd in 2008, that week President Bush only issued one proclamation: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=76848#axzz1KdQOsvPP . In 2007 Easter fell on April 8th. That week President Bush issued three proclamations: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=25018 and http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=25019 and http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=25021 . The last time Easter was this late was in 2003 when it fell on April 20th. That week President Bush issued only two proclamations: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=25021 and http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=62238 so I guess National Parks and Fair Housing were a bigger priority for President Bush than Easter.

  • StewartIII
  • Tmccarthiera

    Rio said:
    You mean, out of several points I made you chose to ignore this point? And, yes, you are changing the debate. Also, I will not research to find out how many presidents may have missed an Easter message, it appears that that is of interest to you, so, be my guest, you do it, go get em tiger. I will share with you a website that posts the messages President Bush gave…every….single…year….he…was…in….office. It also includes Obama’s first Easter message, proclamation, statement, etc: http://www.theholidayspot.com/easter/presidential_proclamations.htm But, the site neglected to post Obama’s 2010 message, might be an old site, so I will even provide the 2010 message for you: Obama Removes Jesus from Easter Messagehttp://www.torenewamerica.com/obama-removes-jesus-from-easter-message Happy now?

    Who gives a SHIT? Obama ain’t Bush and the constitution does not require him to emulate a former president.

    If he doesnt’ want to put out a proclamation on Easter, then deal with it you spoiled little religious choir boy. Go cry about it on Fox.
    No president has issued a proclamation on Easter for the past 20 years. Period. Just another whining right-wind double standard.

  • Tmccarthiera

    *No president… before Bush. Clinton didn’t give a shit. Obama doesn’t give a shit. And neither do most people who have lives and don’t all day watching Fox News and finding little nit-picky things to be pissed off about.

    It’s amazing how small and petty the Right is in their criticism of Obama. WAH WAH WAH, he didn’t put out a PRESS RELEASE on Easter. OUR WORLD IS ENDING.

    Shut the fuck up. Jesus Christ.

  • Tmccarthiera

    MartiniShark said:
    er, no – don’t watch Fox, you pompous tool.

    LOL, that’s believable.

  • Tmccarthiera

    OxyCon said:
    like to dunk crosses in buckets of piss.

    Yes, atheist like to drunk crosses in buckest of piss. The “piss-Christ” art exhibit proves this conclusively.

    Also, all white evangelical Christian men are practicing homosexuals who get high off meth behind closer doors.

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

    Tmccarthiera said:
    LOL, that’s believable.

    As you regurgitate numerous posts that look copy/pasted from HuffPo. Try reading the numerous links that have been given of Presidents making statements on Easter within the last 20 years, including the pair I gave in that post.

  • mlb

    Alice67 said:
    Then become POTUS and get the perks. It comes with the job. Or quit whining about it.

    I wasn’t the one whining… just responding your delusional response -quite frankly financially this has been a tremendous year. Only you would equate ‘perks’ with lavishly spending tax payer money to party. You must be a huge supporter of Wall Street ,I know Obama is.

  • Tmccarthiera

    MartiniShark said:
    Try reading the numerous links that have been given of Presidents making statements on Easter within the last 20 years.

    Try pointing out why anyone should care whether the President makes a proclamation about Easter.

  • http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

    It has been explained throughout this comment thread. (Again, reading.) Example, my post above from which you quoted — the WH recognized Earth Day but neither Good Friday, nor Easter. Also, it is kind of what this article was about in the first place.

  • Rio

    Tmccarthiera said:
    If he doesnt’ want to put out a proclamation on Easter, then deal with it you spoiled little religious choir boy. Go cry about it on Fox.
    No president has issued a proclamation on Easter for the past 20 years. Period. Just another whining right-wind double standard.

    Other than your foul language, you appear to be oh so child like and whiney. For the record, strike one, I never, ever was a choir boy, not the right plumbing. I watch very little of FOX, strike two, and strike three, no president has ever issued an Easter proclamation, it’s called a statement, greeting, address, etc. and being as though the thread is about Obama not issuing one at all this year, we happen to be discussing it, not whining. You’re out!

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Tmccarthiera said:
    Try pointing out why anyone should care whether the President makes a proclamation about Easter.

    The White House should care…

    How many people think Obama is a muslim, or don’t believe him and think he just pandered to religious folks to get elected?

    This stuff doesn’t help, nor do these other things:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbcs-lawrence-o%E2%80%99donnell-gets-owned-by-rev-franklin-graham-during-interview/comment-page-5/#comment-429684

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jay-carneys-awkward-response-to-questions-over-lack-of-white-house-easter-statement/comment-page-6/#comment-429707

  • Sue

    I personally, could care less whether or not the Obama’s are Muslim. What I do know is that in the case of Barack Obama, he is definitely not a Christian. To be a true, honest Christian you must live every moment according to the direction of Jesus Christ. Going to church, issuing statements, or attending Black Liberation Theology based churches is not Christian. Nor is the church he attended on Easter Sunday. My take is that it is another of the Rev. Wright-type churches and therefore cannot be Christian Church in the sense of Jesus Christ. But, to be fair, there an entire host of churches of varying denominations that are not “Christian” also, even though they think they preach the Word of God. Now to be honest, I am an agnostic and don’t care who goes where on Sunday, religious holidays or what they pretend they are. Anyone who is honest has to admit it and Jay Carney was simply showing his ignorance and hubris about a subject he knows absolutely nothing about…not an atypical situation for a Press Secretary.

  • TheEagle

    Sue said:
    I personally, could care less whether or not the Obama’s are Muslim. What I do know is that in the case of Barack Obama, he is definitely not a Christian. To be a true, honest Christian you must live every moment according to the direction of Jesus Christ. Going to church, issuing statements, or attending Black Liberation Theology based churches is not Christian. Nor is the church he attended on Easter Sunday. My take is that it is another of the Rev. Wright-type churches and therefore cannot be Christian Church in the sense of Jesus Christ. But, to be fair, there an entire host of churches of varying denominations that are not “Christian” also, even though they think they preach the Word of God. Now to be honest, I am an agnostic and don’t care who goes where on Sunday, religious holidays or what they pretend they are. Anyone who is honest has to admit it and Jay Carney was simply showing his ignorance and hubris about a subject he knows absolutely nothing about…not an atypical situation for a Press Secretary.

    The Obama’s attended the Shiloh Baptist Church. It is an historic church that was founded over 200 years ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiloh_Baptist_Church_(Washington,_D.C.)

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