I would like to see a debate between Jesse Ventura and Sarah Palin.

Ventura has been taking too many wingnut pills.

Gotta love Ventura, He tried to come into the argument with the premise that the documentary was more about media manipulation than hugo chavez. That other guy didnt really have an answer for that, but just went in for the easy kill, making ventura look like a chavez apologist.

I would have started the argument with comparing the ways in which our mainstream media and hugo chavez are similar, in respect to manipulating news to fit an agenda or narrative. Would have been a better way to back him into addressing the original premise.

Ventura needs to learn to control his temper, it throws him off. You can find some good interviews on youtube where he just looses it on the people, lol

Ventura: “the media has been bought and sold”
Larry king…”not us”

ha ha ha hah yeaaa thats a good one!

Ya he is always good for some entertainment. Here’s one where he gets pwned big time by Jim Norton…

here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvKgj_EjUDw

I saw this full interview, Jesse Ventura is a meat-head , military record distorting , lying ass piece of human shit.

Every time he is boxed in , Jesse resorts to well ” Have you ever served in Vietnam , I have ! ” No matter what the issue is.
 
 Jesse Ventura’s  Military lies revealed ;

He never recieved a  Combat Action Ribbon

Never was a Navy  Seal

( He actually was a UDT, under water demolition specialist )

Fought in Vietnam , never saw action.

Your a disgrace and embarrassment to the military and us Vets.

F*ck Chavez,  Ventura your nothing but a punk bully. Minnesota should be ashamed for electing you to anything.

TROLLING4LIBS says:
June 10, 2010 at 11:37 pm
I saw this full interview, Jesse Ventura is a meat-head , military record distorting , lying ass piece of human shit.
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Hey Troll, why don’t you call Jesse up and set up a face to face meeting with him and tell him that to his face? Or are you just one of those tough talking keyboard commandos that would shit himself if you ever came face to face with him?

Oh John T , I’d LOVE too.

“Every time he is boxed in , Jesse resorts to well ” Have you ever served in Vietnam , I have ! ” No matter what the issue is.”

HA HA,.you noticed that too eh!

@the real john t

Jim Norton already had a face to face with him and Norton made him his bitch! Ventura is nothing more then a school yard bully. and the class clown turned him into a little girl…………LOL

Noticed it for a quite awhile . The Navy has too ,and years back he got called out on his bullshit service record that he uses to bash people with. I served to , and let me tell you, nobody hates lying ass , wannabe – war hero’s more, than prior service folk.

Burnnotice says:
June 10, 2010 at 11:57 pm
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Do you actually think with cameras rolling and security there Ventura was really going to do something? I saw that exchange, did you see how Ventura stood in the doorway for a few minutes and Norton never left the saftey of his chair or studio while Ventura was there. Yeah RIGHT, Norton really made him his bitch. NOT!

Ventura is right, as usual. But let’s assume that everything Chavez is accused of is true. I have a few questions:

1) How many relief convoys has the Venezuelan military attacked?
2) How many ghettos has Chavez bombed?
3) How many people has Chavez burned alive with White Phosphorous?
4) How many families has Chavez killed with Predator drones?
5) How many people has Chavez had kidnapped and tortured?
6) How many times has Chavez claimed the right to assassinate his own citizens?
7) How many American citizens have been shot in the head at point-blank range by Venezuelan commandos?

TROLLING4LIBS says:
June 11, 2010 at 12:06 am
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Why don’t you show some evidence he wasn’t a Navy SEAL? BTW Troll, if you knew anything about the Navy SEALS you’d know SEAL is spelled with capital letters.

@the real john

Norton did want to get physical. A person only gets physical when they lose the verbal fight. I have driven many a person that way because they don’t have the intellect to debate me for instance. Don’t scare me none. I have faced bully’s before. I grew up on the streets,.My dad was a semi Pro boxer who use to hang out with Wrestlers all the time. I know what they are all about… I dropped out of high school and Joined the Navy, and met some real war heroes that served in Viet Nam. Jesse is a piece of shit. Masquerading as something special. He got dropped on his head one time to many in his wrestling career. Thats just the truth, I’m sorry to upset you john but, your hero is a zero…

Sorry to spoil your wet dream of your super hero Jesse The Body , whose poster is hanging over your race car bed , John 

From September 11, 1969, to September 10, 1975, during the Vietnam War era, Ventura served in the United States Navy. While on active duty, Ventura was part of Underwater Demolition Team 12 (UDT).[34] The UDTs were merged with the US Navy SEALs in 1983, 8 years AFTER Ventura had LEFT the Navy. Compared to SEAL units, UDTs saw less combat and took fewer casualties.[35]

Bill Salisbury, an attorney in San Diego and a former Navy SEAL officer, accused Ventura of “pretending” to be a SEAL and wrote that Ventura would be blurring an important distinction by claiming to be a SEAL when he was actually a frogman with the UDT.[35][36][37] Following that, Governor Ventura’s office confirmed that Ventura was never a member of the SEALs. His spokesman stated that Ventura has never tried to convince people otherwise.[35] Ventura stated: “Today we refer to all of us as SEALs; that’s all it is.”[37]

Ventura has frequently referred to his military career in public statements and debates.[35][38][39] He was criticized by hunters and conservationists for stating in an interview with the Minneapolis StarTribune in April 2001, “Until you have hunted men, you haven’t hunted yet.”[39][40]

In January 2002, Ventura, who had never specifically claimed to have fought in Vietnam, disclosed for the first time that he did not see combat. He did not receive the Combat Action Ribbon, which was awarded to those involved in a firefight or who went on clandestine or special operations where the risk of enemy fire was great or expected.[41]

[ Wikipedia ]

Later, John 

Burnnotice says:
June 11, 2010 at 12:22 am
@the real john

Norton did want to get physical. A person only gets physical when they lose the verbal fight. I have driven many a person that way because they don’t have the intellect to debate me for instance. Don’t scare me none. I have faced bully’s before. I grew up on the streets,.
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“Norton did want to get physical?” Then why in the hell didn’t he get out of his chair and stand up?

He was also a Hells Angel wanna be. LOL

In 1973, Ventura was a full-patch member of the San Diego chapter of the outlaw motorcycle club the Mongols.

Couldn’t even be good at being an out law!……..This is just to hilarious!

TROLLING4LIBS says:
June 11, 2010 at 12:24 am
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Do you have any CREDIBLE link to what you’re stating?

the real john t

“Didn’t” Calm down, take a breath, you know what I meant…..

Burnnotice says:
June 11, 2010 at 12:33 am
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You could also supply some CREDIBLE links instead of just running off on the head.

Find it yourself John. emmmm, start with maybe using a Google search??? Show us where we are wrong….

My bad J, knowing how libs are liars themselves so they trust nobody ,I should have known to link it, always got to PROVE it , with the libs, but here ;

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura?wasRedirected=true

Burnnotice says:
June 11, 2010 at 12:38 am
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I’m not the one that made the accussations. So it’s up to you to prove it. And I see now you can’t. So quit typing out your ass until you can prove what you type.

TROLLING4LIBS says:
June 11, 2010 at 12:42 am
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So Troll, wikipedia is your idea of a credible source? I rest my case.

@ John T ,

I’m not playing this back and forth bullshit LIBERAL TROLL game , I knew my facts without wikipedia , but whatever, this tactic is used around the liberal blogs .. You guys pretty much want actual physical evidence, sorry I can’t hand you it to you thru your computer screen..

ha ha on his show conspiracy theory, theres this part where hes outside of the harp facility in alaska, shaking the front gate screaming “I want answers”,.,ha ha classic ventura

TROLLING4LIBS says:
June 11, 2010 at 12:58 am
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AWWWW! Don’t start crying, little man.

Hey Burnnotice, you made the claim -YOU get to back it up! Until you offer proof, I’m going to assume you’re lying.

Trolling, you really are an ignorant wanker, aren’t you? UDT and the SEALs are one and the same, just as the Army’s 1st Special Service Force (along with a few other units) of WW2 was later turned into Army Special Forces (the Green Berets). A member of the 1st SSF would be well within his rights to call himself a member of the Special Forces, because that’s exactly what he was.

Face it, you’re a dick.

“In January 2002, Ventura, who had never specifically claimed to have fought in Vietnam, disclosed for the first time that he did not see combat”

Ironic for someone who jumps on everybody as being a chicken hawk at every chance. I’ll give him cheney, thats it though. am i not merciful

http://web.archive.org/web/20020203035901/http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/1130195.html

Gov. Jesse Ventura, who has used his military record to deflect criticism and bash foes but has kept mostly mum on what he did during the Vietnam War, has disclosed for the first time that he did not see combat.

“To the best of my knowledge, I was never fired upon,” Ventura said in an interview with the St. Paul Pioneer Press for an article published Monday about his years as a Navy SEAL in the 1970s.

Ventura had suggested in an interview with the Star Tribune of Minneapolis last year that he had “hunted man,” but wouldn’t give details then or now. And he has steadfastly refused to disclose much about his two overseas deployments, which totaled 17 months, saying his commanding officer gave their unit strict orders never to talk about what they had seen or done.

Ventura had never specifically claimed to have fought in Vietnam.

Based at Subic Bay in the Philippines, when he was still known as James Janos, Ventura earned the Vietnam Service Medal. It was awarded to 3 million servicemen and servicewomen who were in Vietnam, in surrounding countries or on ships off the coast.

In what the Pioneer Press described as a “combative 90-minute interview,” Ventura refused to say whether he served in-country, offshore or both.

Ventura did not receive the Combat Action Ribbon, which was awarded to those involved in a firefight or who went on clandestine or special operations where the risk of enemy fire was great or expected.

While Ventura often brags about his SEAL background and some of his exploits while training in the Philippines as a member of Underwater Demolition Team 12, he refused to say what he did to earn his Vietnam Service Medal. He also refused to reveal which platoon and which detachments he was in within UDT 12 – information that would allow reporters to find out about his missions in public documents.

“You don’t have a right to know about the teams,” he told the Pioneer Press.

Ventura’s former commanding officer, Robert Peterson, said he’s not in a position to enforce his old order for silence. He noted that other former frogmen have written dozens of books and magazine articles, but he also backed Ventura’s decision to remain silent.

Larry Bailey, former lieutenant commander of UDT 12 and Ventura’s former executive officer, scoffed at the notion there is any reason for Ventura to be silent, though he apparently didn’t know details of what Ventura might have done.

“We did routine stuff,” Bailey said. “If he is pleading no comment now because of something Bob Peterson said, he’s misleading you. There is nothing he could tip off 30 years later. He’s sensitive about something. I don’t know what it is. Maybe it was that he wanted to get in combat. He didn’t get the combat ribbon, but that’s nothing to be ashamed of.”

Since when is Wikipedia a valid source for anything? You might as well quote something you saw written on the wall in the men’s room.

Ironic for someone who jumps on everybody as being a chicken hawk at every chance.

Ventura may not have seen combat, but at least he enlisted (unlike Draft-Dodger Dick Cheney, who has been hiding behind his ghoulish daughter since before she was born). What’s more, Ventura at least showed up for duty, unlike Dubya -who was getting drunk and crashing into trees.

Yelper;

You obvious has NO clue about the military if you think UDT and a SEAL are the same. They merged after Ventura left, but their still not the same job . Their training is totally different . Rather than waste my time with another ignorant liberal, who in a above post inferred The US military was killing and torturing countries and Venezuela and Chavez haven’t done that. You research it , and fuck off .

TROLLING4LIBS says:
June 11, 2010 at 1:14 am
Yelper;

You obvious has NO clue about the military if you think UDT and a SEAL are the same. They merged after Ventura left,
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Hey troll, go read something and enlighten yourself.

http://information.usnavyseals.com/2010/01/navy-seal-weapons-history.html

@Jelperman

Now you’re making a claim you have something intelligent to say.. Since I see no proof I’m going to assume your lying…

Don’t believe me I’m not out to change anyone’s opinion about me or the Bully Vantura. Just making a passing comment. Its haters like you that need daily confirmation to help fester the hate. That’s all Vantura does. that’s why he is your hero….

? . John T my advice to you is to , expand your knowledge beyond the MM, ThinkProgress, DailyKos and HuffPuff crowd. The Recycled Anti- America talking points attract few friends in life.

TROLLING4LIBS says:
June 11, 2010 at 1:39 am
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Hey Troll, was the last link I gave you from any of those sites? I think you claimed that you served in the Miltary. What was you MOS?

BTW Troll, keep your advice to yourself until you learn to read.

0621 Field Radio Operator USMC

John, full disclosure I joined the Marine Corps in 03′ – 08′ . I deployed in 04′ – 05′ , to Iraq ( Al Anbar province .. al Asad Airbase )and then again in 07′. Regardless , I could care less if you
believe me, my point is Jesse uses his military record as a political tool , and he was defending Chavez . He pisses me off and many prior vets.

TROLLING4LIBS says:
June 11, 2010 at 2:00 am
my point is Jesse uses his military record as a political tool
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Could you please tell me what political office Jesse is running for?

“Ventura may not have seen combat, but at least he enlisted (unlike Draft-Dodger Dick Cheney, who has been hiding behind his ghoulish daughter since before she was born).”

hA ha thats why i said the only person ventura can call a chicken hawk is darth cheney.

Liz just feels like daddy really wished for a boy, thats why she overcompensates in well, being a bitch.

John , what office is Palin running for? Yet she recieves scrutiny to NO end . Aside from that, Jesse DID use his military record throughout his gubernatorial campaign and still does to cover for his lack of thought.

TROLLING4LIBS says:
June 11, 2010 at 2:15 am
John , what office is Palin running for?
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I never said Palin was running for political office. As far as I’m concerned she’s just an idiot.

Now this is my last post because I’m going to get some sleep. It’s been nice conversing with you. See you in a couple of days.

“what office is Palin running for? Yet she recieves scrutiny to NO end”

doesnt matter if shes running or not, shes still a player in our political landscape. Thats like saying al sharpton or pat robertson can never be scrutinized about their politics because they are currently, like palin, not running for office.

Beck was right. The masks are coming off.

Jesse Ventura has gone ’round the bend. One too many head butts perhaps. Both Stone and Ventura are glittering jewels of colossal ignorance. Neither man’s IQ would score much over room temperature and nothing they might suggest should get anywhere near school children. One can only imagine the stunning conversation these two mental giants would have over drinks.

Regardless , I could care less if you believe me, my point is Jesse uses his military record as a political tool , and he was defending Chavez . He pisses me off and many prior vets.

Then you and those others need to get a life. Oliver Stone fought in Vietnam, earning a Bronze Star and Purple Heart. He’s more of a veteran than all the Internet Tough Guys put together.

King is right. Instead, we should force them to watch An Inconvenient Truth.

Penn Jillette said it best: “Just say to yourself, I have seen my last Oliver Stone movie.”
I said that after watching his slander-job on Nixon.

Chavez is always bad mouthing the U.S. So if someone here bad mouths Chavez, why the hell is anyone offended by that?

Who is Penn Jillette and why should I care what he thinks?

You never heard of Penn & Teller?

Seriously?