Oh, it’s possible all right.

The media will work as hard as it can to tear down ANY opponent that emerges who can seriously challenge the incumbent. Nothing will be out of bounds. They will Alinsky until they collapse in orgasmic spasms.

So, yeah. It’s possible. Not on the merits of Obama or his opponent (if it is based on just that, Obama, a dismal failure, will lose in a landlside to a cardboard cut-out of Barney Fife), but on the actions of a partisan, unprofessional, and ruthless media.

The deck will be stacked.

karl rove=loudmouth

He would fail to convince anyone with a pulse. I don’t think even Obama believes he could win re-election. Did you notice the Obama move in support of States Rights? That friends, is a clear indication Obama knows he is toast and has no idea how to work the o’l Jedi Mind Trick a second time…Tho the MSM will help all they can I’m sure.

He is a failure looking for a message, and hearing nothing but crickets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-9eNSniQgg …Ain’t gonna happen a second time.

Harry Flashman said:
Oh, it’s possible all right.

The media will work as hard as it can to tear down ANY opponent that emerges who can seriously challenge the incumbent. Nothing will be out of bounds. They will Alinsky until they collapse in orgasmic spasms.

So, yeah. It’s possible. Not on the merits of Obama or his opponent (if it is based on just that, Obama, a dismal failure, will lose in a landlside to a cardboard cut-out of Barney Fife), but on the actions of a partisan, unprofessional, and ruthless media.

The deck will be stacked.

Sad but true. The media is sharpening their knives as we speak. The dirt will start flying fast and furious.

A.R. said:
karl rove=loudmouth

a brilliant statement. Did you think of it all by yourself?

GoneFishing said:
He would fail to convince anyone with a pulse. I don’t think even Obama believes he could win re-election. Did you notice the Obama move in support of States Rights? That friends, is a clear indication Obama knows he is toast and has no idea how to work the o’l Jedi Mind Trick a second time…Tho the MSM will help all they can I’m sure.

He is a failure looking for a message, and hearing nothing but crickets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-9eNSniQgg …Ain’t gonna happen a second time.

when the media is in your pocket you never say never.

I want Libs thinking that their Betrothed is capable of winning re-election, because I want to be there with binoculars as they all jump from the rooftops the ‘Day After.’

seek said:
a brilliant statement. Did you think of it all by yourself?

no i had your mom help me out

Harry Flashman said:
Oh, it’s possible all right. The media will work as hard as it can to tear down ANY opponent that emerges who can seriously challenge the incumbent. Nothing will be out of bounds. They will Alinsky until they collapse in orgasmic spasms. So, yeah. It’s possible. Not on the merits of Obama or his opponent (if it is based on just that, Obama, a dismal failure, will lose in a landlside to a cardboard cut-out of Barney Fife), but on the actions of a partisan, unprofessional, and ruthless media. The deck will be stacked.

Karl Rove made that prediction because he knows that his outfit of Swiftboaters just did a media buy of $25 MIllion.

There are two reasons “Fair and Balanced” Fox News includes such lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist nitwits as williams on their commentary shows: 1. comic relief (obviously) from the serious discussions of others, and 2. to show rational people what insanity and total bs these lunatics mindlessly and endlessly spew forth.

seek said:
when the media is in your pocket you never say never.

True, They will try…many of them anyway, and he can always count on o’l Chrissy Tingles and his little brother Maddow.

Not all tho, some are having second thoughts and it is starting to show. It will be close, but he will not get the free ride he once did. I am hopeful as it seems the majority of Americans, and even a goodly number of his supporters in 08 are getting sick at the thought of 4 more years of ‘Purple Drink’ and want real juice for a change. Someone with a little experience and substance in the kitchen to get it done. Lord knows we need it.

GoneFishing said:
He would fail to convince anyone with a pulse. I don’t think even Obama believes he could win re-election. Did you notice the Obama move in support of States Rights? That friends, is a clear indication Obama knows he is toast and has no idea how to work the o’l Jedi Mind Trick a second time…Tho the MSM will help all they can I’m sure. He is a failure looking for a message, and hearing nothing but crickets. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-9eNSniQgg …Ain’t gonna happen a second time.

Obama has always been a moderate democrat. He was in the Illinois senate. It is difficult for him when faced with Repubilcans who feel it is “either my way or the highway” and arent’ willing to work together for the benefit fo the American people.

Case and point: There have been 3 jobs bills sent to the floor of the US Senate – to give small businesses incentives to hire and create infrastucture jobs. The republicans have doused everyone of them by loading them up with about 100 amendments that they know even the democrats won’t vote for.
Barbara Boxer had one on the US Senate floor just this week and it failed.

Here’s the reason. The Republicans don’t want Americans to have jobs. McConnell has said that Obama will be a one term president and he intends to the unemployment figures high so that Obama won’t get re-elected.
Republicans like him are NOT Americans. They are terrorists.

Typical Conservatives, just like children. Always screaming… “lalalalala, I can’t hear you”, whenever they don’t want to hear the truth.

Gorgegirl said:
Rove compared them all to President Obama himself, an “obscure senator from Illinois who did diddly squat in the Senate.”

It was only $20 million and the ad’s are spectacular.

“Rove compared them all to President Obama himself, an “obscure senator from Illinois who did diddly squat in the Senate.”

Absolutely true. I’ve been saying for over a year and a half, whoever is the Republican nominee is immaterial, a ham sandwich will beat The Chicago Jesus worse than Elin beat Tiger. In spite of having all media (except one cable news channel and AM radio) in his press posse.

The Republicans only have to get within 6 percent – Diebold will to the rest ;)

Crush & Flush The GOP 2012 !!!!!!

Izzy Yelen said:
Crush & Flush The GOP 2012 !!!!!!

Just ain’t in the cards, historically whenever EITHER party in the White House over reaches it backfires. Sorry but this time around, Jimmah Carter part deaux is a one termer.

Two words. MESSAGE DISCIPLINE. Karl Rove is a master political operative just like that old guy who runs Fox News named Roger Ailes. Say something enough times. People start believing it. Perception becomes reality. Rove wants this to be the case with the prospects of Obama’s reelection just as Ailes wants people to believe that Fox News is “fair and balanced.”

WillP said:
Say something enough times. People start believing it. Perception becomes reality. Rove wants this to be the case with the prospects of Obama’s reelection just as Ailes wants people to believe that Fox News is “fair and balanced.”

Kinda like “hope and change” was.

seek said:
Sad but true. The media is sharpening their knives as we speak. The dirt will start flying fast and furious.

Yep. If Obama wins it’s a conspiracy by the media. If a Republican wins then that must be fair. Could it be possible in 2008 that a Republican president had overseen the rise of the worst economy since the Great Depression? Americans were ready for a change. Or could it be possible that Obama demonstrated that he had a better command of the issues than his opponent John McCain who appeared more interested in theatrics (selecting Sarah Palin, suspending his campaign,etc.) than providing actual substance? Could it be possible that such a scenario happens again whereby Obama is deemed superior to his opponent? Oh no. Of course not. If Obama wins it must be a part of a media conspiracy just like the status of his actual birth. He could never win because more Americans truly viewed him as the better candidate.

Of course TurdBlossom is NOT going to admit the gNOpigs are toast EVEN before the hard campaign season starts.

ANYONE can beat President Obama?

ANYONE?

- Moose Boogers and The Hair?
TurdBlossom doesn’t think too highly of either.

- Mittens?
Oh, yes. Let’s have him opposing health care reform. That’s a winner.

- Lardass what’s his name?
Who?

- Ron Paul
You have to love that. Absolutely. He has upset so many gNOpigs who are ready to vote for the fruit cake.

ANYONE can beat President Obama’s reelection?

Why doesn’t TurdBlossom go ahead and NAME THEM.

The TurdBlossom should be in the hoosegow.

GoneFishing said:
True, They will try…many of them anyway, and he can always count on o’l Chrissy Tingles and his little brother Maddow. Not all tho, some are having second thoughts and it is starting to show. It will be close, but he will not get the free ride he once did. I am hopeful as it seems the majority of Americans, and even a goodly number of his supporters in 08 are getting sick at the thought of 4 more years of ‘Purple Drink’ and want real juice for a change. Someone with a little experience and substance in the kitchen to get it done. Lord knows we need it.

And Republicans have NEVER proved they care about JOBs. They promised in the 2010 campaign that the first thing they would do in congress would be JOBs. What was the ONLY thing they did for the first 140 days? They tried to repeal the Affordable Healthcare bill knowing full well that it wouldn’t pass the senate nor would the president sign it. And, of course, there was the important task of making sure women couldn’t get healthcare without the republicans looking up her vagina. Then, the “10 page Jobs Plan” they introduced on Day 140 made no sense.

Republicans don’t give a s8*t about the American people and having jobs. After all, it was them who awarded corporations all the deductions they could squeeze from tax loopholes to move our jobs to China. I just think it UN-AMERICAN to not care enough about your fellow man to want jobs to move out of this country,, but the republicans proved it by voting AGAINST a bill last Fall which would have ended the deduction for moving expenses for these corporations.,

Harry Flashman said:
The deck will be stacked.

Tell me – what could be worse than having the Un-American Republicans questioning your birth place?

Recovery Summer 2010 hopefully will be in second gear by November 2012. No one could beat Obama if unemployment is under ten percent and the deficit is only one hundred trillion dollars. Nuh-uh. People love Obama just as much as Tom Hanks. More, maybe. They’re both huge and awesome and adorable. Vote for hope and change in 2012 YEAH!

Once again I want to express my gratitude to former President George W. Bush.

He wrecked the country and destroyed the gNOpigs in ways no Democrat could have ever imagined.

Under his leadership *snark* he and the gNOpig congress spent our grand children’s future to build a school somewhere around Baghdad, to educate the unwashed masses right here in the USA.

It makes perfect sense.

So, that is another winning topic to ask ANY gNOpig contestant.

- What are YOU going to do to get US out of Obama’s wars?

Excuse me? Obama’s wars? Should I refresh YOUR gNOpig memory?

Seriously. I cannot wait for ANY gNOpig to tell us again their WINNING strategy to get us out of the clusterfK THEY created.

Oh, wait. – Tax cuts.

Yeah, that’s the ticket.

In fact, President Obama is voting present every single day. He is very PRESENT. Think long and hard about how high up that makes him.

And the more I think the more I adore Obama. He tilts his chin up and kind of looks out like he’s thinking very hard when he’s discussing how to win the future. I can’t wait for the future because I want to win it, whatever it is. (It’s got to be a good thing if my man Obama is winning it.) No way anybody talking about deficits and that boring crap could beat a guy who talks about future winnings and the similar things of that. And we all know about change and hope already. Combine that with a winning future that you’ve already won? Think about it, T-Paw or Ging-Grinch stealing future chrismases? (Atheist, yo. I roll with hardcore atheists gangsta post modern future winners, ok? I use Xmas totally “metaphorically.” I’m steely and hard with my atheist bros.)

Recovery Summer is still recovering people. Give change a chance to future win. That’s all we’re saying, peeps.

Skippy said:

Can anyone figure out what ol’ Skippy is trying to say?

Gorgegirl said:
Republicans don’t give a s8*t about the American people and having jobs.

And in your opinion, what great strides has Obama made to get American’s back to work? What in his record is better than the Republicans?

JerseyJones said:
And the more I think the more I adore Obama. He tilts his chin up and kind of looks out like he’s thinking very hard when he’s discussing how to win the future. I can’t wait for the future because I want to win it, whatever it is. (It’s got to be a good thing if my man Obama is winning it.) No way anybody talking about deficits and that boring crap could beat a guy who talks about future winnings and the similar things of that. And we all know about change and hope already. Combine that with a winning future that you’ve already won? Think about it, T-Paw or Ging-Grinch stealing future chrismases? (Atheist, yo. I roll with hardcore atheists gangsta post modern future winners, ok? I use Xmas totally “metaphorically.” I’m steely and hard with my atheist bros.)

Recovery Summer is still recovering people. Give change a chance to future win. That’s all we’re saying, peeps.

Was that sarcasm? Sounded like it. Couldn’t tell.

Anything is possible.
But you would be a fool to think that Obama will win re-election with no effort.
Make no mistake about it, Obama has an uphill battle to fight if he wants to win again.
Especially if his uphill battle is made all the more difficult with countless failure sitting on his shoulders.
Exponentially increased national debt, unconstitutional wars of aggression, high unemployment, 1 in 7 Americans are starving and on food support while Obama dines at 5000$ a plate with the very people he called “fat cats”.
The weight is heavy for Obama no doubt.
Buy the question is: Will he collapse under all the pressure? We’ll see.

Skippy said:
TurdBlossom

glenn113 said:
TurdBlossom

Weren’t these two in a movie?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJLicw66aWo&feature=related

illusive man said:
Anything is possible

Like Yogi said…………It ain’t over till it’s over.

oh,my god

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illusive man said:
Anything is possible.
But you would be a fool to think that Obama will win re-election with no effort.
Make no mistake about it, Obama has an uphill battle to fight if he wants to win again.
Especially if his uphill battle is made all the more difficult with countless failure sitting on his shoulders.
Exponentially increased national debt, unconstitutional wars of aggression, high unemployment, 1 in 7 Americans are starving and on food support while Obama dines at 5000$ a plate with the very people he called “fat cats”.
The weight is heavy for Obama no doubt.
Buy the question is: Will he collapse under all the pressure? We’ll see.

Starving, while obesity is the real problem these days? Who the heck is starving? Where are these wars of aggression happening? Are we moving into small neighboring countries and taking over? Win or lose, I doubt Obama will collapse.

TeaPartyNation said:
There are two reasons “Fair and Balanced” Fox News includes such lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist nitwits as williams on their commentary shows: 1. comic relief (obviously) from the serious discussions of others, and 2. to show rational people what insanity and total bs these lunatics mindlessly and endlessly spew forth.

Sounds like the same reason they allow simple minded teabaggers on this board, for comic relief.

puck30 said:
Weren’t these two in a movie?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJLicw66aWo&feature=related

I love that movie. “Dumb” is a guilty pleasure.

The subtitles on the Youtube clip even made it funnier.

Karl Rove’s hotshot days are long behind him. If he really believes Obama has no chance Karl should not be any sort of analysis.

The magnificent bastard is truly now a Turd Blossom. Do not take Rove with you on your next Vegas trip. He is too delusional at this point. Christine O Donnell was actually correct in much of her criticism of Turd Blossom.

JAKESTAR,

I never got to thank you for making my point, regarding the less than stellar performance of Soviet Generals.

You had asserted the Soviet Generals were highly skilled, yet took 20 million Killed in Action! (at least a 2–1 ratio against their German foe)

Even for the Soviets and the cataclysm of the Eastern front, The Soviets displayed callous and gross incompetence.

Touche’ and thanks again.

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

JAKESTER,

I almost forgot. In our earlier dialogue you were very disparaging toward the American fighting man and Generalship in WWII.

I don’t know of any historian that would agree with you: Stephen Ambrose, Carlo D’Este, Donald Miller, Patrick O’Donnel , Rick Atkinson, etc…

As for the Eastern Front, The SS Panzer Corps under Papa Hauser knocked around the Soviets from Prokovorovka back. At Kursk, even with the echelon defense of the Soviets, the Liebstandarte, Totenkopf and Das Reich had a near 10 to 1, tank on tank kill ratio.

Just wanted clear things up

purveyor said:
JAKESTAR,

I never got to thank you for making my point, regarding the less than stellar performance of Soviet Generals.

You had asserted the Soviet Generals were highly skilled, yet took 20 million Killed in Action! (at least a 2–1 ratio against their German foe)

Even for the Soviets and the cataclysm of the Eastern front, The Soviets displayed callous and gross incompetence.

Touche’ and thanks again.

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

The Soviet Union, for the most part, won by sheer numbers, fear and luck.
Marshall Zhukov was lucky to ever ride the white horse into Red Square. Zhukov was a talented man who beat the odds (the purges).

Hitler and his deputies were never so stupid to do what Stalin did. I believe Stalin was eventually murdered. “A stroke” was questionable and only a excuse. Beria was evil in many ways but was a sacrificial lamb for peace. Molotov had every motive for Stalin’s end.

Perspective is a hard pressed servant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II0er7TmkS8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

purveyor said:
JAKESTER,

I almost forgot. In our earlier dialogue you were very disparaging toward the American fighting man and Generalship in WWII.

I don’t know of any historian that would agree with you: Stephen Ambrose, Carlo D’Este, Donald Miller, Patrick O’Donnel , Rick Atkinson, etc…

As for the Eastern Front, The SS Panzer Corps under Papa Hauser knocked around the Soviets from Prokovorovka back. At Kursk, even with the echelon defense of the Soviets, the Liebstandarte, Totenkopf and Das Reich had a near 10 to 1, tank on tank kill ratio.

Just wanted clear things up

I am fascinated by the battle of Stalingrad. Someday when my fiances considerably improve, Volgograd would be an interesting place to visit.

And to think i just criticized someone for going off topic!

Silly hypocrite me.

I love military history. For better or worse it is the history of the human race.

Nature Freak said:
fiances

Wonderful error.

Nature Freak said:
The Soviet Union, for the most part, won by sheer numbers, fear and luck.
Marshall Zhukov was lucky to ever ride the white horse into Red Square. Zhukov was a talented man who beat the odds (the purges).

Hitler and his deputies were never so stupid to do what Stalin did. I believe Stalin was eventually murdered. “A stroke” was questionable and only a excuse. Beria was evil in many ways but was a sacrificial lamb for peace. Molotov had every motive for Stalin’s end.

I would love to know the reasons i just received a thumbs down. Did i offend Stalin’s followers? Rove? social conservatives from an earlier thread?
Who knows.

Greg said:
Wonderful error.

I just caught it. I could use a fiance to fund a trip to Russia and Europe.
Freudian Slip perhaps?

Nature Freak said:
I would love to know the reasons i just received a thumbs down. Did i offend Stalin’s followers? Rove? social conservatives from an earlier thread?
Who knows.

I got your back but your best to watch your front… Remember that the thumbs down means you are one of the good people on Mediaite… The barbarians have long since used the gates for kindling.

Rove, the great producer of the picture of W looking out AF-1 at people drowning in New Orleans, and then he has it published for P-R purposes. Great strategist he is.

Nature Freak said:
I just caught it. I could use a fiance to fund a trip to Russia and Europe.
Freudian Slip perhaps?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergamy

NATUREFREAK, Read Enemy at the Gates, by William Craig. Non Fiction, you won’t put it down. (not the movie which was really BAD)!

To think we got off to such a poor start. Thank you as you are correct about the eastern front.

The German Army was “overwhelmed, not overmatched.”

The American Military has kept this in mind for the past 60 years.

My sincere apologies about “going off topic,” I had some unfinished business with JAKESTER.

Greg said:
I got your back but your best to watch your front… Remember that the thumbs down means you are one of the good people on Mediaite… The barbarians have long since used the gates for kindling.

I am manic on occasion as many have figured out, but this 40 year old is also an agree to disagree sort of person. I can respect persons across the political spectrum.

Mediaite is enigmatic. Greg, I wish I remembered the quote but you had some good comments about this site almost two weeks ago regarding why you liked it so much..

I dislike both the Communists and Fascists in WW2. WW2 can be an interesting topic for those with different political perspectives to argue. The “boundaries ” were different then.

I have a large cedar chest at my house of family belongings from WW2 and the period including 1945-1951. Going through the chest can be fascinating. The chest actually has a complete Korean War outfit.

NATUREFREAK,

Dont feel bad, I got a thumbs down for recognizing the Cartoon Cereal Box Character “Quisp”. I am sure you’ve seen it? The green Martian with the propeller hat.…

A Thumbs down! That hurt my fragile feelings! LOL

Pardon the error.
It’s not 1-7 Americans dealing with hunger. It’s 1-6, much worse.

jakester said:
Starving, while obesity is the real problem these days? Who the heck is starving?

Mostly the elderly and children. Maybe you want to do something about it?
http://feedingamerica.org/get-involved/donate.aspx?convio_source=Y11X1GSEM&convio_subsource=hungerinamerica&gclid=CMWm6KzV0qkCFcTBKgodzn-hOA

Nature Freak said:
I am manic on occasion as many have figured out, but this 40 year old is also an agree to disagree sort of person. I can respect persons across the political spectrum.

Mediaite is enigmatic. Greg, I wish I remembered the quote but you had some good comments about this site almost two weeks ago regarding why you liked it so much..

I dislike both the Communists and Fascists in WW2. WW2 can be an interesting topic for those with different political perspectives to argue. The “boundaries ” were different then.

I have a large cedar chest at my house of family belongings from WW2 and the period including 1945-1951. Going through the chest can be fascinating. The chest actually has a complete Korean War outfit.

History when done well provides a certain clarity as consequence of it’s complexity. As you noted, shifting “boundaries” when understood from a distance inform a more complicated view of our present. The primary obstruction of our age is the cataract of comfort, built tough by limited academic rigor and the solace of hearing repeated our accepted bias.

Let’s hope our sustained comfort and ease not lead to our undoing… Cheers!

purveyor said:
NATUREFREAK,

Dont feel bad, I got a thumbs down for recognizing the Cartoon Cereal Box Character “Quisp”. I am sure you’ve seen it? The green Martian with the propeller hat.…

A Thumbs down! That hurt my fragile feelings! LOL

It’s all good.

This site needs more non partisan articles. I have friends with different politics but learn to just discuss mutual interests. I was LOL about it. I do realize I have “hijacked” this thread badly.

Even though I am liberal for the most part (but not with every issue) I grew up in a family where everyone had their own political viewpoints, some seriously different. It was a learning experience that many could use.

There are forums where I get hell from the left. I am not for the draft, but my father admitted his experience of being forced to interact with different people from all different backgrounds forced him to grow as an individual.
We all need to occasionally leave our comfort zones.

In 2006 Karl, you also predicted the Republicans would retain control of both the Senate and the House. OOOPS.

Nature Freak said:
I have a large cedar chest at my house of family belongings from WW2 and the period including 1945-1951. Going through the chest can be fascinating. The chest actually has a complete Korean War outfit.

My uncle found the arrest record of my great great grandfather in the NYC archives, an Irish cobbler measuring 5 foot 2 inches, two tattoos and guilty of pick pocketing. He died of TB in jail… Our history perhaps the most humbling and profound of all knowledge we can gain.

Karl Rove shouldn’t even ask be asked these questions. The guy is spending every second he can trying to beat Obama in 2012.

Greg said:
History when done well provides a certain clarity as consequence of it’s complexity. As you noted, shifting “boundaries” when understood from a distance inform a more complicated view of our present. The primary obstruction of our age is the cataract of comfort, built tough by limited academic rigor and the solace of hearing repeated our accepted bias.

Let’s hope our sustained comfort and ease not lead to our undoing… Cheers!

Thank you. The only way we can solve many of our problems is truly the cliche of “outside the box thinking”.

I am scared that it will take a major disaster in the United States to wake us up. For the sake of my loved ones as well as me I do not want it to come to that. I love everyone no matter the disagreements we have.

Bedtime for me. I get in my head too much. That is why I make time to hike and run 35 miles a week. It was unusual I was able to spend so much time on this site weeks ago, and i caught hell for it.

Later,
Nature Freak

Nature Freak said:
Thank you. The only way we can solve many of our problems is truly the cliche of “outside the box thinking”.

I am scared that it will take a major disaster in the United States to wake us up. For the sake of my loved ones as well as me I do not want it to come to that. I love everyone no matter the disagreements we have.

Bedtime for me. I get in my head too much. That is why I make time to hike and run 35 miles a week. It was unusual I was able to spend so much time on this site weeks ago, and i caught hell for it.

Later,
Nature Freak

Best wishes.

CAINtheBULL said:
Karl Rove shouldn’t even ask be asked these questions. The guy is spending every second he can trying to beat Obama in 2012.

VERY TRUE. It’s ridiculous that he is even called a “news analyst. When he is not attacking the Obama administration on Fox News, he runs American Crossroads, a very influential Republican PAC. Yet, despite his past and current activity supporting the Republican Party, he can somehow be presented on Fixed News as a news analyst. But, then again this is just another glaring example of the fusion of the Republican Party and the news media. If you just look at the very top, Roger Ailes, the head of Fox News, was the leading operative for George Bush in 1988. And people expect him to run a “fair and balanced” news channel? Former political operatives of either party should not be in the business of news coverage. End of story.

CAINtheBULL said:
Karl Rove shouldn’t even ask be asked these questions. The guy is spending every second he can trying to beat Obama in 2012.

Well that’s his “job”! What do you want him to do?

WillP said:
VERY TRUE. It’s ridiculous that he is even called a “news analyst. When he is not attacking the Obama administration on Fox News, he runs American Crossroads, a very influential Republican PAC. Yet, despite his past and current activity supporting the Republican Party, he can somehow be presented on Fixed News as a news analyst. But, then again this is just another glaring example of the fusion of the Republican Party and the news media. If you just look at the very top, Roger Ailes, the head of Fox News, was the leading operative for George Bush in 1988. And people expect him to run a “fair and balanced” news channel? Former political operatives of either party should not be in the business of news coverage. End of story.

Rove is pretty level headed and rarely loses his cool. He is a republican strategist I believe. Could be wrong – don’t know what title they’re putting under his name but they have him on for the republican view point – not as a “news analyst”. They also have “democratic strategists” on all the time. Your point?

Although I surely don’t agree with him many times, I do respect his knowledge of political history.

seek said:
Rove is pretty level headed and rarely loses his cool. He is a republican strategist I believe. Could be wrong – don’t know what title they’re putting under his name but they have him on for the republican view point – not as a “news analyst”. They also have “democratic strategists” on all the time. Your point?

Although I surely don’t agree with him many times, I do respect his knowledge of political history.

Sorry Seek. Just look above you right now. He is presented as a news analyst. He SHOULD be presented as a Republican Party strategist. Now, that would be “fair and balanced.” I do agree with you he has a deep knowledge of political history, especially that of electoral politics. That’s his real specialty. Nevertheless, he should still be presented as representing the Republican Party.

Harry Flashman said:
Oh, it’s possible all right.

The media will work as hard as it can to tear down ANY opponent that emerges who can seriously challenge the incumbent. Nothing will be out of bounds. They will Alinsky until they collapse in orgasmic spasms.

So, yeah. It’s possible. Not on the merits of Obama or his opponent (if it is based on just that, Obama, a dismal failure, will lose in a landlside to a cardboard cut-out of Barney Fife), but on the actions of a partisan, unprofessional, and ruthless media.

The deck will be stacked.

Go back to your rock. Your republicans have not a viable candidate in the bunch. Not a drop of charismatic energy, much less a sense of contemporary problem solving. You’re all from the dark ages.

WillP said:
Sorry Seek. Just look above you right now. He is presented as a news analyst. He SHOULD be presented as a Republican Party strategist. Now, that would be “fair and balanced.” I do agree with you he has a deep knowledge of political history, especially that of electoral politics. That’s his real specialty. Nevertheless, he should still be presented as representing the Republican Party.

I didn’t watch this, but he would be on to rebut Juan and give his take on the issue. We all know what Rove is and isn’t. He’s a republican first and foremost.

Tom Bennett said:
Go back to your rock. Your republicans have not a viable candidate in the bunch. Not a drop of charismatic energy, much less a sense of contemporary problem solving. You’re all from the dark ages.

Well the President is sorely lacking in those departments also. So, we shall see what we shall see. The media controls the rhetoric – sad but true. I’m guessing the dirt will start flying fast and furious as soon as the media figures out which candidate could do the most harm to the democrats. That’s how it works.

Karl Rove is an idiot. He can’t be convinced of anything remotely logical.

seek said:
I didn’t watch this, but he would be on to rebut Juan and give his take on the issue. We all know what Rove is and isn’t. He’s a republican first and foremost.

So FoxNews lies and you just don’t care.

WillP said:
Sorry Seek. Just look above you right now. He is presented as a news analyst. He SHOULD be presented as a Republican Party strategist. Now, that would be “fair and balanced.” I do agree with you he has a deep knowledge of political history, especially that of electoral politics. That’s his real specialty. Nevertheless, he should still be presented as representing the Republican Party.

If you look at the picture you are using as an example it clearly says “FOX NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST”…

see, that means Fox News is the channel, and Rove is the POLITICAL analyst.

Not exactly rocket science.

Nacho said:
So FoxNews lies and you just don’t care.

Fox News doesn’t lie, but you seem to have a real gift for it.

Greg said:
The primary obstruction of our age is the cataract of comfort, built tough by limited academic rigor and the solace of hearing repeated our accepted bias.

Wow! That is profound, seriously and respectfully. Well done.

Rokker said:
Karl Rove is an idiot. He can’t be convinced of anything remotely logical.

Well rokker, anyone who calls Rove an idiot is one brick short of a load. You will hear him articulate exactly what is happening and the explain it in depth. You want to read a good book – read Rove’s.

He works on facts, statistics and history.

seek said:
Well rokker, anyone who calls Rove an idiot is one brick short of a load. You will hear him articulate exactly what is happening and the explain it in depth. You want to read a good book – read Rove’s. He works on facts, statistics and history.

…and paid partisanship.

valkyrie101 said:
…and paid partisanship.

VALKYRIE,

You don’t always have to make a comment. SEEK is correct, Rove’s Book is very good, historically and academically. “Partisanship,” yes of course, but is to be expected.

Furthermore, the competent General always knows his opponent, better than he knows himself. (paraphrase Sun Tzu)

By the way I supported you and complimented you in an exchange with GONEFISHIN, who is nobody’s foole.

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

purveyor said:
VALKYRIE, You don’t always have to make a comment. SEEK is correct, Rove’s Book is very good, historically and academically. “Partisanship,” yes of course, but is to be expected. Furthermore, the competent General always knows his opponent, better than he knows himself. (paraphrase Sun Tzu) By the way I supported you and complimented you in an exchange with GONEFISHIN, who is nobody’s foole. PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

Still, the essential disclaimer, that Rove is a paid partisan who has become a multi-millionaire during his tenure as a paid right wing talking head, and is known for being dishonest. Its possible that he is a moonie too. All of that needs to be mentioned, certainly, right?

ClassifiedNoMore said:
It would be impossible for him to get reelected if this story got out http://alturl.com/8546e

Caught smoking again? Crap.

Karl Rove, who helped a weak, unqualified candidate into the White House twice without legitimately winning once, says Obama is too weak to be re-elected?

Why, because Obama doesn’t have the Supreme Court in his pocket, doesn’t have the manufacturers of electronic voting machines contributing in more ways than just financially to the Republicans, won’t get a billion dollars from the Kochs for campaign money and dirty tricks, or hasn’t brought the French health insurance system to the USA?

I still say that R

Karl Rove, who helped a weak, unqualified candidate into the White House twice without legitimately winning once, says Obama is too weak to be re-elected?

Why, because Obama doesn’t have the Supreme Court in his pocket, doesn’t have the manufacturers of electronic voting machines contributing in more ways than just financially to the Republicans, won’t get a billion dollars from the Kochs for campaign money and dirty tricks, or hasn’t brought the French health insurance system to the USA?

I still say that Rove and friends have trotted out their clowns (Bachmann, Gingrich, Cain, Pawlenty, etc.) as the opening act of their circus so that when someone who can convincingly act serious (Huntsman) comes along with no base, they can make him into the savior riding in on a white horse with a white hat to save us all from “libbruls.”

I’m not saying the country won’t fall for this same con game again (yes, we CAN be that stupid), but I still think Kochrove will have a harder sell this time.

Rove knows what he’s talking about. No president has been elected to a second term with an unemployment rate this high since maybe FDR.

valkyrie101 said:
Still, the essential disclaimer, that Rove is a paid partisan who has become a multi-millionaire during his tenure as a paid right wing talking head, and is known for being dishonest. Its possible that he is a moonie too. All of that needs to be mentioned, certainly, right?

Point taken.

lol. who would give thumbs down for forwarding a link to Feeding America.org’s donation site? I know “liberals”hate America but you don’t need to focus your irrational animal hate on America’s 1 in 6 starving citizens. Thats just…..evil.

DFW said:

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Karl Rove, who helped a weak, unqualified candidate into the White House twice without legitimately winning once, says Obama is too weak to be re-elected?

As my Old Man (Father) would have said: “Don’t talk so loose”…

Purveyor

DFW said:
Why, because Obama doesn’t have the Supreme Court in his pocket, doesn’t have the manufacturers of electronic voting machines contributing in more ways than just financially to the Republicans, won’t get a billion dollars from the Kochs for campaign money and dirty tricks, or hasn’t brought the French health insurance system to the USA?

I still say that Rove and friends have trotted out their clowns (Bachmann, Gingrich, Cain, Pawlenty, etc.) as the opening act of their circus so that when someone who can convincingly act serious (Huntsman) comes along with no base, they can make him into the savior riding in on a white horse with a white hat to save us all from “libbruls.”

I’m not saying the country won’t fall for this same con game again (yes, we CAN be that stupid), but I still think Kochrove will have a harder sell this time.

On further reflection, my Old Man would have made me clean up the kennel. For lacking the capacity to say something insighful.

Come on, you are on Mediaite, the whole world your audience, and all you have to say is that broken down old hat?

Dem4Ever said:
Rove knows what he’s talking about. No president has been elected to a second term with an unemployment rate this high since maybe FDR.

So, there has been a president elected to a second term though with unemployment this high. FDR had a depression and they may call this a recession, but I call it a depression.

And of course, we have the Republicans who don’t give a rats ass about JOBS. They have been loading any jobs bills down with about 100 amendments they know democrats wouldn’t be able to support.
That’s how McConnell expects to keep the unemployment figures high – no jobs bills, no small business assistance etc so that this president can be a 1-term president.

I just wonder – what did the middle class and poor in our country do to get all the HATE from the Republicans?

STOP THE PRESSES!

Karl Rove, the head of “Crossroads,” which just produced and is placing a multi-million-dollar ad funded by secret corporate donors, is promoting the idea that President Obama is going to lose in 2012!

Shocking.

NOT.

Rove should be in Prison.

Karl ” dick Cheney partner in war crime” don’t bet your money on Obama. He WILL Be REELECTED

We all roll our eyes when Juan Williams promulgates his keen insight; it’s a  chortle.  the very polite Brit Hume used to hang his head and say, “Juan!” and go on.