“that’s not in the cards anytime soon, thanks.”

That’s a relief

There is no more humourless man, no man less witty in all Amerika than Basil Marceaux, I mean Gordon Blower, but Mitt Romney certain gives him a run for his money.

Atticus Draco said:
“that’s not in the cards anytime soon, thanks.”

That’s a relief

I don’t know. I’d vote for Mitt. If the other candidate were a Scientologist.

The Real Royal King said:
I don’t know. I’d vote for Mitt. If the other candidate were a Scientologist.

lol

It was a joke Colby, not a gentle dig, but simply a joke.

Get over your FDS, please.

Wow. Imagine that, another big government neocon that wants to be president.

More Liberty said:
Wow. Imagine that, another big government neocon that wants to be president.

That seems to be a dying breed, doesn’t it? At least in terms of energy. I still haven’t figured out the Neocon fondness for the Drop Out Governor. The über Neocon Wrongway Kristol was so enamored of her, such an unabashed promoter of her. I wonder how he feels about that now? Disappointed, I should think, unless he merely saw her as a tool to a Neocon Restoration.

The Real Royal King said:
That seems to be a dying breed, doesn’t it? At least in terms of energy. I still haven’t figured out the Neocon fondness for the Drop Out Governor. The über Neocon Wrongway Kristol was so enamored of her, such an unabashed promoter of her. I wonder how he feels about that now? Disappointed, I should think, unless he merely saw her as a tool to a Neocon Restoration.

I don’t know or care. To be honest I, unlike you or others here, don’t have a creepy obsession with Palin.

More Liberty said:
I don’t know or care. To be honest I, unlike you or others here, don’t have a creepy obsession with Palin.

Mitt’s NOT getting a job on FOX for his assumed NeoCon credentials
(NOT sure where you two are getting that FROM,, whatever,, CALL HIM A NeoCon,, lol)
The operative words are BIG GOVERNMENT!
THAT’S WHY HE IS NOT GETTING THE JOB ON FOX!

More Liberty said:
I don’t know or care. To be honest I, unlike you or others here, don’t have a creepy obsession with Palin.

Well, the actual question goes to whether the Tea Party was the resurrection of the Neocon movement or its death. I find that an interesting question, and I tend to think the Neocons are surprised that their cheap political ploy came back to bite them. But, if you prefer to be prickly, that’s fine too.

The Real Royal King said:
Well, the actual question goes to whether the Tea Party was the resurrection of the Neocon movement or its death.

What contorted way did you come up with that?
care to explain?

The Real Royal King said:
Well, the actual question goes to whether the Tea Party was the resurrection of the Neocon movement or its death.

Actually it is anti-neocon for the most part. You see, neocons are nothing more than democrat-light. Neocons are for big government, regardless as to what they say, for open borders, social conservative issues, deficit spending and huge debts -i.e. George Bush and his dad.

The Tea Party is/was about fiscal responsibility and limited government.

More Liberty said:
The Tea Party is/was about fiscal responsibility and limited government.

There you go!
I dont know where RRK is getting his crazy idea from

More Liberty said:
Actually it is anti-neocon for the most part. You see, neocons are nothing more than democrat-light. Neocons are for big government, regardless as to what they say, for open borders, social conservative issues, deficit spending and huge debts -i.e. George Bush and his dad.

The Tea Party is/was about fiscal responsibility and limited government.

The teabaggers don’t have a coherent credo. Well, aside from the fact that all appear to hate spelling and grammar with a passion.

Some_Dude said:
The teabaggers don’t have a coherent credo. Well, aside from the fact that all appear to hate spelling and grammar with a passion.

I’ll admit that I’m not a perfect writer – never said I was.

I don’t need a colorful and “coherent credo” like “Change We Can Believe In” to support something. What I need are solid principles like fiscal responsibility and limited government. Somehow the politicians on both sides of the aisle forget that the Constitution was written to protect individual freedom and liberty, and spell out what the government can/can’t do. Many today thing the government is here to give them things, and it’s rather sad.

Fact: Romney would be with the stampede of RHINOS that won’t go far in the process!

Atticus Draco said:
There you go!
I dont know where RRK is getting his crazy idea from

But add, the proviso that the Neocons are not about fiscal responsibility nor limited government. That’s the key point. The Neocons seemed to seize upon the Tea Party as a path to renewed legitimacy and power, but it hasn’t worked out for the Neocons. That is my point. I’m not a Tea Partier, to be sure, but I am also not implying anything negative about them. On the contrary. The Neocons were being cynical and abusive, the Tea Party seems to be somewhat true to its principles, however ill-defined and cloudy those principles may at times seem.

We have something else interesting happening as well. The Republicans seem to be setting up a return to an activist social conservative agenda again. The course is not completely clear to be sure. But, I don’t think that is what November was all about. So, it strikes me that the mainstream Republicans are doing exactly what the Neocons were trying to do. Co-opt the energy of the Tea Party while at the same time effectively ignoring its agenda. This dynamic, this tension has the potential of something truly epic. I don’t have a dog in this fight, but it will be interesting to watch. And, I wouldn’t dismiss either. The Tea Partiers would be remiss if they were to diminish the strength of the institution that is the Republican party, and the Republicans would be remiss if they were to assume that the voters found much value in a political philosophy which has not essentially chnaged since 1976.

The Real Royal King said:
The Republicans seem to be setting up a return to an activist social conservative agenda again.

I noticed that recently as well. Many Tea Party leaders have warned the establishment Republicans not to delve into such topics. The Tea Partiers are more Libertarian, less social conservatives. We need less government, and that includes on social issues.

The Real Royal King said:
But add, the proviso that the Neocons are not about fiscal responsibility nor limited government. That’s the key point. The Neocons seemed to seize upon the Tea Party as a path to renewed legitimacy and power, but it hasn’t worked out for the Neocons. That is my point. I’m not a Tea Partier, to be sure, but I am also not implying anything negative about them. On the contrary. The Neocons were being cynical and abusive, the Tea Party seems to be somewhat true to its principles, however ill-defined and cloudy those principles may at times seem.

We have something else interesting happening as well. The Republicans seem to be setting up a return to an activist social conservative agenda again. The course is not completely clear to be sure. But, I don’t think that is what November was all about. So, it strikes me that the mainstream Republicans are doing exactly what the Neocons were trying to do. Co-opt the energy of the Tea Party while at the same time effectively ignoring its agenda. This dynamic, this tension has the potential of something truly epic. I don’t have a dog in this fight, but it will be interesting to watch. And, I wouldn’t dismiss either. The Tea Partiers would be remiss if they were to diminish the strength of the institution that is the Republican party, and the Republicans would be remiss if they were to assume that the voters found much value in a political philosophy which has not essentially chnaged since 1976.

NO,, lol,, you;re either reading into this way too much or plainly NOT (deliberately maybe),, not understanding it,, misreading it possibly.

Let’s just cut to the chase,, what prominent NeoCon are you concerned with?
And be advised,, it better be a name that has any real influence over the TP movement
and i’m NOT in the mood for conspiracy theories

More Liberty said:
I’ll admit that I’m not a perfect writer – never said I was.

I was referring to the general teabagger masses seen protesting and leaving superlative comments on such excellent and unbiased news sites like FoxNation.com. I’m horrible at grammar too. But neither of us are nearly as bad as those idiots that dress up in period garb and proudly proclaim that “Remember Descent the highest form of Patriotic” (and boy, there are legion of signs like this)

I don’t need a colorful and “coherent credo” like “Change We Can Believe In” to support something.

I was referring to how they’re all over the map in regards to what they want, and the obvious disconnect between what they’re supposedly asking for and yet who they support politically.

… the Constitution was written to protect individual freedom and liberty, and spell out what the government can/can’t do. Many today thing the government is here to give them things, and it’s rather sad.

- Those essential liberties are still in the Constitution

- It was created to be a living document, to change with the times by being amended, and it has

- Yes, the government is essentially us, the people, and among its many purposes and functions we expect it to provide us with certain things. Many of us are also kind and caring individuals, and support the egalitarian programs are government maintains. I could rattle off the laundry list of government agencies and services that make even this discussion we’re having over the Internet possible, but I don’t want to bore you

“safe and predictable” Seems like a nice bloke, but describes Mittens to a T. Again, though, people aren’t going to forget that the controversial federal healthcare plan took many points from Romney’s Taxachusettes plan.

Hey Hall, if you’re going to quote someone, then quote them accurately. Your column headline gives the impression that he wouldn’t even appear on Fox News if he wasn’t running for president. His comment was actually regarding taking a on-air job at Fox News like some other potential candidates have.

And I don’t know why you see it as a dig at Fox. I see it as a subtle dig at his potential opponents, but that’s your bias.

They won’t have you Mitt, they have the rest of the Jokers on their payroll. And you are a Millionaire, you don’t need the extra change, the others need Jobs.

Some_Dude said:
It was created to be a living document, to change with the times by being amended, and it has

The last time the US Constitution was amended was in 1992, almost 20 years ago. The politicians refuse to do the hard work and make the required changes so that their laws are constitutional. Like you said, the document is living and breathing but only as it is amended.

Some_Dude said:
Yes, the government is essentially us, the people, and among its many purposes and functions we expect it to provide us with certain things.

As long as it is in the Constitution. States are free to provide their own services as long as none violate the US Constitution but the federal government is limted in what it can and cannot do – although the politicians have continued to ignore this for decades.

The tea poty wants Huck and Jeb the other Repo’s want Mitt. Then you have Palin who is just totally an opportunist and out for the money, she will probably run to!

Your making it easy with these candidates for the Democrats to win…. thank you!

Hey Mitt – If we’ve learned anything from the last couple of weeks, if you’re not on FNC, then you’re not a Republican. You’re some kind of RINO, liberal hack.

Otherwise and slightly off-topic…

If the Republican establishment were to coalesce around a Romney to find their unified voice and if Palin keeps playing to the fringe, one has to wonder on which side Beck would fall. He certainly has a history and reasons to back either candidate, but is he ready or willing to be kingmaker because quite possibly, it’s the way the thing could go.

Jay asked Mitt Romney if he thought Sarah Palin was qualified to be president and said that she could run in the primaries just as any of the other potential candidates. When Jay pressed him further he said “You saw what she did to that halibut on her TV reality show” (where she clubbed the floundering fish to keep-it from jumping-out of the boat.)

Sarah Palin has a best-selling new book that uses descriptions of popular television programs to state her political beliefs:

http://www.flixya.com/post/brightlights/2340446/Sarah_Palin_American_Idol

It looks as if our discussion were for naught. In the Congress now ending, Tea Party Caucus members requested over US $1 Billion in earmarks. The biggest offenders:

US $ 6.65 Million, King of Iowa.
US $ 7.10 Million, Gohmert of Texas.
US $ 16.10 Million, Gingrey of Georgia.
US $ 23.30 Million, “You Lie” Wilson of South Carolina.
US $100.50 Million, Rehberg of Montana.

Looks like NeoCons in Tea Party clothing to me.

I should note that, uncharacteristically of this group, Loony Bachmann of Minnesota requested no earmarks.

But do take time to look up “MORMON UNDERGARMENTS” on the net. There you will see the true Mitt & entire group. Comforting.

Gee Mitt, you just lost this voter and probably millions of others as well. Is it really that scientific to understand not to slam a cable station that is approaching MSM in viewership that holds more audience than any other cable stations combined? Okay, let’s break this down fer ya Mitt, Leno has what 5 million viewers? FOX in one day has 8-10 million viewers? Next…..and one more nagging little issue, Palin won’t be running for POTUS but there is no one in America with as much visibility or political pull as Palin to the chagrin of many and make no mistake, Palin will be instrumental in the selection of our next President, like it or not. I’m not sure you’ve passed her smell test Mitt. Love that Mass. healthcare Buddy……NOT