They should all be charged for war crimes and blatant corruption (Halibuton, and co).

Even Rudy? What did he do?

So one can reasonably wonder what the bookers for these shows were thinking when the invited guests from the right outnumbered those from the left at a ratio of three to one.

Maybe they figured that people who have worked on the problem would have some interesting insight into it, as opposed to those whose primary history with it is criticism.

Sadly, because just like YOU Roachel the rest of the morally, financially bankrupt liberals that make up today’s democrats partyin Washington and beyond they’ve got nothing……nothing at all……..except making fun of those “real ” American Republicans like yoo’re doing here……..

skyfet said:
They should all be charged for war crimes and blatant corruption (Halibuton, and co).

You of course know, because you’re very knowledgable that Haliburton is now working for the Obama admin.
I knew you knew that! Suddenly they are not so bad. They worked for the Clinton Gov. also – but you knew that too.

And how many former Clinton staffers are on these shows? Better question how many Clinton staffers now work in the media? Love the one sided blindness from people like Maddow.

seek said:
You of course know, because you’re very knowledgable that Haliburton is now working for the Obama admin.
I knew you knew that! Suddenly they are not so bad. They worked for the Clinton Gov. also – but you knew that too.

The no-bid corruption was too blatant under your hero W. I guess you didn’t know about that part (no bid Contract). Now go and Google it and learn.

Pablo said:
Maybe they figured that people who have worked on the problem would have some interesting insight into it, as opposed to those whose primary history with it is criticism.

You mean those who started the downhill, yeah its a good Idea. Hire the people who crashed the system to fix it, nice logic.

Hence ! Capich emotion wobbling joker . ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

skyfet said:
They should all be charged for war crimes and blatant corruption (Halibuton, and co).

‘ol sky got right in there and laid it out
fer us, he did!

Probably NOT wrong said:
‘ol sky got right in there and laid it out
fer us, he did!

You can join them in court as-well.

skyfet said:
They should all be charged for war crimes and blatant corruption (Halibuton, and co).

Yes, so mysterious “war crimes” which nobody can actually explain. Apparently, to the angry left, “war crimes” is equal to “did something we didn’t like in retrospect, but supported at the time.” But to be honest, I’m not sure that’s what it really means, guys.

writer said:
Even Rudy? What did he do?

He dared to think and act differently than the left-wing establishment. Therefore, he must be “re-educated.”

“Liberal Media” my ass! This is why I don’t watch any of those shows. They’re a joke. I’m glad Rachel bitch slapped all of them including the feline faced David Gregory. It should tell you something about the Bushies. They’re all desparate to vindicate themselves but, not one of them showed up with actual facts. It was a parade of lies and assumptions. Thankfully, the larger public isn’t buying this talking point. Bush will never get credit for catching Bin Laden no matter how much air time they’re given by the media. The public isn’t buying it!

Yeah, I don’t understand either Rach. I am sure the world is much more interested
in what you, Tingles, Chunk, Crazy Larry, Fat Eddie, Chuck, Morning Goober,
Andrea and the rest of you over at MESS have to say. At least that is how I read the current ratings.
COMCAST, you don’t really know WHY ?????? Honestly???

“Maddow correctly points out that the Sunday morning political talk shows are considered by many to be the “apex” of political discourse in this country, likening an invitation to appear on any number of these shows to getting a “seat at the grownups table.” So one can reasonably wonder what the bookers for these shows were thinking when the invited guests from the right outnumbered those from the left at a ratio of three to one.”

There you go Colby – you figured it out. They are grownups and act accordingly. They can carry on a decent conversation and offer insights instead of nonsense.

skyfet said:
You can join them in court as-well.

There ya go! Right there. Can always count on ol sky to put
thing in proper prospective fer us…….

skyfet said:
The no-bid corruption was too blatant under your hero W. I guess you didn’t know about that part (no bid Contract). Now go and Google it and learn.

…and they still have no bid contracts. Haliburton knows what the hell they are doing. Honestly, it’s too early in the day for your stupidity. It’s not blatant any more bright wonder, because the media is not interested in letting you know.

What a surprise….Rachel Maddow wants to avoid current issues and blame Bush. The Queen of Gotcha continues her collapse into complete irrelevance and triviality.

Rachel let me point out the big elephant in the room. You beloved President and his facilitators in Congress have been borrowing another $4 billion every day to pay for bankrupt Democrat entitlements. Why don’t you stand up and debate the wisdom of that policy decision? Until you engage in dialogue and debate on this — and the other key issues of our time — your endless gotcha games look foolish and intellectually dishonest.

roxsteady said:
It should tell you something about the Bushies. They’re all desparate to vindicate themselves…

How dare they get invited onto these talk show! Clearly, they’re forcing their way to… um… get invited on. Yes… that makes sense.

But… here’s something that doesn’t (okay, neither made sense):

roxsteady said: This is why I don’t watch any of those shows. They’re a joke.

…followed by…

…not one of them showed up with actual facts. It was a parade of lies and assumptions.

So I suppose the question is… if you don’t watch the shows, how did you know it was a “parade of lies?” Who told you, roxy? Who’s telling you what to think today?

seek said:
…and they still have no bid contracts. Haliburton knows what the hell they are doing. Honestly, it’s too early in the day for your stupidity. It’s not blatant any more bright wonder, because the media is not interested in letting you know.

Willful ignorance is a disgrace, you might be an ex-employee (which clouds your judgement). But to the world Harliburton is a national disgrace.

roxsteady said:
“Liberal Media” my ass! This is why I don’t watch any of those shows. They’re a joke. I’m glad Rachel bitch slapped all of them including the feline faced David Gregory. It should tell you something about the Bushies. They’re all desparate to vindicate themselves but, not one of them showed up with actual facts. It was a parade of lies and assumptions. Thankfully, the larger public isn’t buying this talking point. Bush will never get credit for catching Bin Laden no matter how much air time they’re given by the media. The public isn’t buying it!

You would probably be a lot happier if you got a job, Rox !

I’m guessing this is an MM driven story; yawn.

Clearly Bush is responsible for Osama’s death which happened under Obama, in the same way that Obama is responsible for the recession which happened under Bush.

Probably NOT wrong said:
There ya go! Right there. Can always count on ol sky to put
thing in proper prospective fer us…….

You don’t want to join your heroes in court? If you believe in their principle you should stand with them to the end. No?

ImNotBlue said:
How dare they get invited onto these talk show! Clearly, they’re forcing their way to… um… get invited on. Yes… that makes sense.

But… here’s something that doesn’t (okay, neither made sense):

…followed by…

So I suppose the question is… if you don’t watch the shows, how did you know it was a “parade of lies?” Who told you, roxy? Who’s telling you what to think today?

I think Sky is!

1. Obama administrations officials are bit…busier these days.

2. When something this historic happens, after a week of analyzing and over-analyzing what it means in the moment, it’s natural to want a more historic perspective. That involves seeking the perspective of people whose involvement in foreign policy is more historic.

3. It’s also preferable to want to seek the perspective of grown-ups. ;-)

skyfet said:
You don’t want to join your heroes in court? If you believe in their principle you should stand with them to the end. No?

I’m sorry, what court is that again?

And what are those crimes?

Rachel . Mika wants you to go to lunch with her , roxsteady and skyfet .

You gals can do some gossipin’ and window shoppin’ and maybe get your nails done .

skyfet said:
Willful ignorance is a disgrace, you might be an ex-employee (which clouds your judgement). But to the world Harliburton is a national disgrace.

So then why are they still getting no-bid contracts? To ignorant dolts who wouldn’t recognize propaganda if it had bright lights around it and a disclaimer at the top “paid advertising” perhaps….

seek said:
I think Sky is!

What else have you thought of lately?

ImNotBlue said:
I’m sorry, what court is that again?

And what are those crimes?

I don’t find it in me to answer such blatant question. You are either ignorant of the issue or just a useful idiot or an apologist for war crimes.

seek said:
You of course know, because you’re very knowledgable that Haliburton is now working for the Obama admin.
I knew you knew that! Suddenly they are not so bad. They worked for the Clinton Gov. also – but you knew that too.

No bid contracts are Hope AND Change.

skyfet said:
I don’t find it in me to answer such blatant question. You are either ignorant of the issue or just a useful idiot or an apologist for war crimes.

Shorter skyfet “I got nuttin.”

skyfet said:
I don’t find it in me to answer such blatant question. You are either ignorant of the issue or just a useful idiot or an apologist for war crimes.

Riiight. It’s not that you CAN’T answer the simple question of “what war crimes specifically,” it’s that you just don’t want to!

Of course. Yes… that is the way to make a strong argument, and support your statements. The old, “If you don’t know, I’m not telling you” routine. Very effective.

skyfet said:
You don’t want to join your heroes in court? If you believe in their principle you should stand with them to the end. No?

Nah !

Former Bush Staffers Outnumbered Democrats On Sunday Morning Shows 3 to 1

Liberals aren’t used to getting up in the morning .

So they don’t get booked . Ahhhhhh

Thelonious Funk said:
Clearly Bush is responsible for Osama’s death which happened under Obama, in the same way that Obama is responsible for the recession which happened under Bush.

No, he’s responsible for the second part of the double dip, as well as the trillions he wasted on the first part.

The Lantern of Truth said:
Rachel . Mika wants you to go to lunch with her , roxsteady and skyfet .

You gals can do some gossipin’ and window shoppin’ and maybe get your nails done .

Bigot. Go clean your gun and slap your GF around some more. The whole “anti women” thing has been over for a while…retard.

Well, somebody has to get the truth out to the American people, or at least give them two different versions of what happened behind the scenes.

The question is can either side be trusted? There is Bush’s side and then there is Obama’s side and then, there is the enshrouded truth, which we may never get to know about!

TerryDo said:
Well, somebody has to get the truth out to the American people, or at least give them two different versions of what happened behind the scenes.

The question is can either side be trusted? There is Bush’s side and then there is Obama’s side and then, there is the enshrouded truth, which we may never get to know about!

There is no “side”. What is it you are confused about?

TerryDo said:
Well, somebody has to get the truth out to the American people, or at least give them two different versions of what happened behind the scenes.

The question is can either side be trusted? There is Bush’s side and then there is Obama’s side and then, there is the enshrouded truth, which we may never get to know about!

No. There’s Bush. Then there’s Obamas 100+ different versions

Probably NOT wrong said:
Nah !

I thought you trust them? I bet you feel ashamed of yourself now, To discover that you might be a RINO.

Pablo said:
Shorter skyfet “I got nuttin.”

You never had it to begin with.

skyfet said:
I thought you trust them? I bet you feel ashamed of yourself now, To discover that you might be a RINO.

Nah!
Pure Republican 100% of the time!
The only thing that ever really pisses me off, is
some dumbass Lefty squirting Hen Shit through his
teeth at me!
Gets to me every time..

Here’s a counter argument to this piece from SteveBenen in his The Washington Monthly “Political Animal” column.

This comes from liberal blogger Bob Somersby at The Daily Howler:

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh050911.html
” BENEN (5/8/11): A few months ago, the line-up for the Sunday morning public-affairs shows was especially egregious. The guest lists featured two Republican senators, three Republican House members, three likely Republican presidential candidates, and exactly zero Democrats from Congress or the Obama administration.

Today, with the Sunday shows turning their attention to bin Laden’s demise and national security, the lineup isn’t quite as bad, but it’s close.

Once again, Steve referred to the Sunday shows of February xx; once again, he misstated the guest lists on that day’s programs. Surely, Steve must know by now that there were two Democratic officials on that day’s shows, including Jacob Lew, Obama’s budget director (see THE DAILY HOWLER, 4/19/11).

Whatever. The foolishness started when Benen complained about the guest lists for yesterday’s programs. The lineup wasn’t “quite as bad” as it was on that imaginary week when Dems got shut out 9-0. But yesterday’s lineup came “close,” Steve absurdly said.

To what extent did yesterday’s shows resemble a shut-out for Democrats? Please. On all five shows, a major Democratic official was the featured guest! Republicans also appeared, but they got second billing—and they got less air time. But so what? Steve simply played his readers for fools, as Sean and Rush have done for all these years.

If you read his comments, you will see that we liberals swallowed his bullshit whole, just like the ditto-heads have always done for Rush.

What were yesterday’s lineups like? Let’s go show by show:

State of the Union: In her first segment, Candy Crowley interviewed Tom Donilon, Obama’s national security adviser. In her second segment, she interviewed Republican senator Richard Lugar. Then, Crowley interviewed a NATO official. Her pundit panel was balanced—former Obama official Anita Dunn versus former Republican congressman Tom Davis.

Based on word counts, Donilon was on the air about twice as long as Lugar.

Face the Nation: In his opening segment, Bob Schieffer interviewed John Kerry, a well-known Democrat. In his second segment, he interviewed Donald Rumsfeld.

Based on word-counts, Kerry’s segment was about fifty percent longer than Rumsfeld’s.

This Week: In her opening segment, Christiane Amanpour interviewed Donilon. In her second segment, she interviewed the Pakistani ambassador. In her third segment, she spoke with a trio of ABC correspondents. In her final segment, she aired a short interview with Condoleezza Rice.

Based on ABC’s still-incomplete transcript and tapes, Donilon’s segment was much longer than the short segment with Rice.

Meet the Press: In David Gregory’s first segment, he interviewed Donilon. In his second segment, he did a shorter segment with three Republicans or former Bush officials—Giuliani, Hayden and Chertoff. His pundit panel was balanced.

Based on word counts, Donilon’s segment was about twenty percent longer than the segment with the three Republicans.

Fox News Sunday: In his opening segment, Chris Wallace interviewed Donilon. In his second segment, which was almost as long, he interviewed Dick Cheney.

His pundit panel was as balanced as it ever gets on this right-leaning Fox show.

Please note: On all five programs, the featured guest was a major Democratic official. Presumably, Donilon appeared on four of the shows because he was the official the White House made available. (Sunday shows don’t have subpoena power.) On all four programs, Donilon got more time than his Republican counterparts. On the fifth program, the Democrat Kerry opened the show and got more time than Rumsfeld.”

Probably NOT wrong said:
Nah!
Pure Republican 100% of the time!
The only thing that ever really pisses me off, is
some dumbass Lefty squirting Hen Shit through his
teeth at me!
Gets to me every time..

I must have touched a freaking nerve.

Here’s The Daily Howler showing how Rachel Maddow simply regurgitated Steve Benen from the Washington Monthy, without giving him any credit.

Mediaite simply regurgitated Rachel.

What else is new…

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh051011.html

skyfet said:
I must have touched a freaking nerve.

This is the line used by angry ideologues, when the person they’re debating is getting visibly annoyed at the others stupidity. They realize they’re about to lose the debate, so they turn to personal attacks and, “Why are you so upset,” type stuff to distract from their own floundering.

Sky, you’re having an off day. Let one of the other people who write as “Skyfet” near the computer. You’re only hurting your image.

Cecelia said:
Here’s The Daily Howler showing how Rachel Maddow simply regurgitated Steve Benen from the Washington Monthy, without giving him any credit.

Mediaite simply regurgitated Rachel.

What else is new…

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh051011.html

If Mediaite (and Colby especially) weren’t fluffing Maddow’s shoddy performances, what else would they have to talk about?

Bill Maher?

ImNotBlue said:
If Mediaite (and Colby especially) weren’t fluffing Maddow’s shoddy performances, what else would they have to talk about?

Bill Maher?

Lmao. Indeed. Sorry Colby, but your boy Obama and his cabinet full of idiots don’t get full credit for this. Maybe that’s why Obama’s Osama bounce fell to earth like a dead cat and barely bounced, you twit.

They will all take their incompetence and lies to their graves. Boo on the media for resurrecting these criminals.

ImNotBlue said:
This is the line used by angry ideologues, when the person they’re debating is getting visibly annoyed at the others stupidity. They realize they’re about to lose the debate, so they turn to personal attacks and, “Why are you so upset,” type stuff to distract from their own floundering.

Sky, you’re having an off day. Let one of the other people who write as “Skyfet” near the computer. You’re only hurting your image.

Coming from you, its pretty lame. Your silly question makes the blog irritating to me, can’t really be bothered with people who are intentionally ignoring the facts.

What a surprise – not! Our vaunted MSM that helped lie us into war gives a platform to a bunch of war criminals in their continuing efforts to cover their own complicity.

“Liberal media” my a__.

skyfet said:
Coming from you, its pretty lame. Your silly question makes the blog irritating to me, can’t really be bothered with people who are intentionally ignoring the facts.

How do you live with yourself, sky?

Love the panel picture. Left to right: Jan, Marcia, Cindy, Mr. Brady, Alice, Peter…

skyfet said:
Coming from you, its pretty lame. Your silly question makes the blog irritating to me, can’t really be bothered with people who are intentionally ignoring the facts.

“I can’t bother to answer the simple questions, which explain my point of view. That’s far too much for me.”

Riiight, sky. You can’t answer it, because there is no answer… you just repeat the words you’ve seen on “friendlier” sites, and have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s only a shame you’re too cowardly to admit it.

ImNotBlue said:
If Mediaite (and Colby especially) weren’t fluffing Maddow’s shoddy performances, what else would they have to talk about?

Bill Maher?

The daily Media Matters talking points. Which, do we know this one didn’t start there?

“The capture and killing of Osama bin Laden is unarguably the biggest foreign policy news to occur during the Obama Administration, and arguably the biggest foreign policy development of the last ten years.”
-CH

then why the tiny 3 pt bounce?

maybe it’s not “Obama got Osama” but “Gates and Panetta got bin Laden”…

That’s because Republicans are more interesting and politically incorrect.

DEMOCRATIC PARTY PLAYBOOK 101.
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/2011/05/10-commandments-in-democrat-party.html

ImNotBlue said:
“I can’t bother to answer the simple questions, which explain my point of view. That’s far too much for me.”

Riiight, sky. You can’t answer it, because there is no answer… you just repeat the words you’ve seen on “friendlier” sites, and have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s only a shame you’re too cowardly to admit it.

Projecting? thanks for letting us know you get your daily rubbish from Newsmax and The Blaze. Over there they tell you that water boarding isn’t torture, even though its against the Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions? You should nominate yourself to go to jail with your heroes.

I think its a fair point. I am not sure whom really cares what the last admin. thinks really but maybe its good for ratings or something – more dramatic. Anyway the media doesnt cover events it promotes advertisers and needs to sensationalize any story with traction. Obama has not been very good at feeding the media its raw meat (Bush was excellent at this) so they have gotten used to going to other troughs (meat/trough = mixed metaphor but you get where Im going here).

You want real news dont look to the Sunday shows – its just not there.

skyfet said:
Projecting? thanks for letting us know you get your daily rubbish from Newsmax and The Blaze.

I have never read EITHER of those sites, but thanks for guessing!

Over there they tell you that water boarding isn’t torture, even though its against the Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions?

Are you asking me, or telling me? If you’re asking, the answer is: “I don’t know.” If you’re telling me, the response is, “I don’t care.”

You should nominate yourself to go to jail with your heroes.

Oh, and why would we go to jail?

Oops… there I go again, asking for reasons, rationales, and evidence. Silly me… you can’t be bothered with that stuff.

Just more hate from a hater… can’t stand anyone who disagrees with him. Poor Sky… you’re so busy hating, you can’t actually think for yourself. A sad situation to be sure.

ImNotBlue said:
I have never read EITHER of those sites, but thanks for guessing!

Are you asking me, or telling me? If you’re asking, the answer is: “I don’t know.” If you’re telling me, the response is, “I don’t care.”

Oh, and why would we go to jail?

Oops… there I go again, asking for reasons, rationales, and evidence. Silly me… you can’t be bothered with that stuff.

Just more hate from a hater… can’t stand anyone who disagrees with him. Poor Sky… you’re so busy hating, you can’t actually think for yourself. A sad situation to be sure.

So now you are hiding from the facts, now you are saying you don’t care, when confronted with facts. You asked the question about why they were wrong, you got the answer, but it wasn’t what you were looking for, you couldn’t spin it.

So you are playing the victim, classic, but embarrassing to be in your position now.

note to mediaite:

this 3 to 1 ratio has been going on for YEARS (i.e. repubs outnumbering democrats on talk shows)

Pablo said:
How do you live with yourself, sky?

Well! its pretty easy.

How do you live with yourself?

and when i say “democrats” in that 3 to 1 ration, i rarely, if ever, mean “democrats from the progressive wing of the party”

Wow! It’s the exact opposite of a typical MSM Sunday. No wonder it is news. No wonder it has the lemming’s panties in a bunch.

But if you want the scoop on how OBL was captured, you have to go to the team that contributed the most, and not to the group that wanted to stop every effort to accomplish it.

seek said:
You of course know, because you’re very knowledgable that Haliburton is now working for the Obama admin.
I knew you knew that! Suddenly they are not so bad. They worked for the Clinton Gov. also – but you knew that too.

yeah, but sort of key difference between bush and clinton/obama was that clinton and obama didn’t start two totally unnecessary trillion dollar wars in a hostile region of the world.

kind of a key difference.

skyfet said:
So now you are hiding from the facts, now you are saying you don’t care, when confronted with facts. You asked the question about why they were wrong, you got the answer, but it wasn’t what you were looking for, you couldn’t spin it.

So you are playing the victim, classic, but embarrassing to be in your position now.

What facts am I hiding from? You haven’t presented any facts at all!

Sky are you even reading what YOU write? I swear, if you can’t bother to read what you write, how can you expect me to try to make sense of it?

felixw said:
What a surprise….Rachel Maddow wants to avoid current issues and blame Bush. The Queen of Gotcha continues her collapse into complete irrelevance and triviality.

yeah, because CURRENT talk shows aren’t “current issues”

lol

darladoon said:
two totally unnecessary trillion dollar wars in a hostile region of the world.

Only in the lemming opinion. Who says they were unnecessary? YOU? Are you in the Defense department? The State department? What is your expertise on necessary and unnecessary wars? You leftist clowns are experts in nothing except hypocrisy, or whining.

Never demand anything that you cannot take by force. This includes peace. The clown-in-chief may earn his Nobel after all.

ImNotBlue said:
What facts am I hiding from? You haven’t presented any facts at all!

Sky are you even reading what YOU write? I swear, if you can’t bother to read what you write, how can you expect me to try to make sense of it?

Your Phony self was defending the crooks earlier, I pointed the facts from Geneva convention that states that their actions were criminal. When confronted with facts, your defends was to say that, well, I don’t care.

Shame on you, you ought to be ashamed of yourself, I’m embarrassed on your behalf.

Of course this is a good evidence that confirms the Left is really ashamed of how they attacked Republicans for the enhanced interrogation techniques and CIA secret sites which both led to Bin Lanen’s death(murder…lol). It is really shameful to have opposed water-boarding yet claim victory for killing the unarmed terrorist.

The White House will actually be regretting the only interview of the NSA Tom Donilon by Chris Wallace on Sunday that tuned out to be a disaster for the administration by just a single question asked.

This question was a nightmare for Obama’s admin
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-wallace-why-is-it-legal-to-shoot-unarmed-bin-laden-in-the-face-yet-we-cannot-waterboard/

ndanielson said:
Only in the lemming opinion. Who says they were unnecessary? YOU? Are you in the Defense department? The State department? What is your expertise on necessary and unnecessary wars? You leftist clowns are experts in nothing except hypocrisy, or whining

ok, so we were attacked by 19 boxcutters, and all of them are dead. the perpetrators are unassailable.
their financiers are saudi.

and to avenge that, we should invade and occupy IRAQ?

and as for afghanistan: taking out the taliban, and occupying the country the size of texas, california, and
alaska combined, does not seem like a good option.

and, for all intents and purposes, i was 100% correct. just look at afghanistan.

skyfet said:
I must have touched a freaking nerve.

Nah!

LOGICandREASON said:
Of course this is a good evidence that confirms the Left is really ashamed of how they attacked Republicans for the enhanced interrogation techniques and CIA secret sites which both led to Bin Lanen’s death(murder…lol). It is really shameful to have opposed water-boarding yet claim victory for killing the unarmed terrorist.

The White House will actually be regretting the only interview of the NSA Tom Donilon by Chris Wallace on Sunday that tuned out to be a disaster for the administration by just a single question asked.

This question was a nightmare for Obama’s admin
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-wallace-why-is-it-legal-to-shoot-unarmed-bin-laden-in-the-face-yet-we-cannot-waterboard/

wow, for someone tagged ‘logic and reason’ you manage to say at least 3 illogical things in one paragraph!

aces!

skyfet said:
Your Phony self was defending the crooks earlier, I pointed the facts from Geneva convention that states that their actions were criminal. When confronted with facts, your defends was to say that, well, I don’t care.

Did you? I thought you were just attacking “The Blaze” and “Newsmax.”

But I thought the Geneva Convention only really applied to countries that had agreed to it… kind of a “if we have to fight, we’ll play by these rules,” treaty. I don’t recall seeing the non-country of “Al Queda” sign it.

Shame on you, you ought to be ashamed of yourself, I’m embarrassed on your behalf.

After reading you for a while Sky, I’m pretty sure you are incapable of shame or embarrassment… so I’m not buying this comment.

darladoon said:
and as for afghanistan: taking out the taliban, and occupying the country the size of texas, california, andalaska combined, . P>

wrong, get a map

darladoon said:
ok, so we were attacked by 19 boxcutters, and all of them are dead. the perpetrators are unassailable.
their financiers are saudi.

and to avenge that, we should invade and occupy IRAQ?

and as for afghanistan: taking out the taliban, and occupying the country the size of texas, california, and
alaska combined, does not seem like a good option.

and, for all intents and purposes, i was 100% correct. just look at afghanistan.

Never demand anything that you cannot take by force. Peace included. Wake up.

still haven’t heard a good argument for the $4 trillion invasions of two gigantic and dangerous muslim countries

(waiting)

darladoon said:
still haven’t heard a good argument for the $4 trillion invasions of two gigantic and dangerous muslim countries

(waiting)

The rightwingers don’t have any.

darladoon said:
still haven’t heard a good argument for the $4 trillion invasions of two gigantic and dangerous muslim countries

(waiting)

Ask Obama. Didn’t he say Afghanistan was “the right fight?”

Are you an isolationist?

ImNotBlue said:
Ask Obama. Didn’t he say Afghanistan was “the right fight?”

Are you an isolationist?

you don’t know how to argue. just because i’m opposed to afghanistan, doesn’t mean i’m an isolationist.

that’s basic logic.

ImNotBlue said:
Did you? I thought you were just attacking “The Blaze” and “Newsmax.”

But I thought the Geneva Convention only really applied to countries that had agreed to it… kind of a “if we have to fight, we’ll play by these rules,” treaty. I don’t recall seeing the non-country of “Al Queda” sign it.

After reading you for a while Sky, I’m pretty sure you are incapable of shame or embarrassment… so I’m not buying this comment.

Typical Neocon BS, how long did it take you to dig that dead crap up? And truly, I really do feel embarrassed on your behalf, believe me.

skyfet said:
Typical Neocon BS, how long did it take you to dig that dead crap up? And truly, I really do feel embarrassed on your behalf, believe me.

Oh, hours of research. Tons and tons of it. Took me weeks to put together.

OR, it’s a logical and obvious response. Whichever you want to believe.

darladoon said:
you don’t know how to argue. just because i’m opposed to afghanistan, doesn’t mean i’m an isolationist.

that’s basic logic.

I just asked a question. I know plenty of the anti-war folks who are isolationists.

Are you?

ImNotBlue said:
Oh, hours of research. Tons and tons of it. Took me weeks to put together.

OR, it’s a logical and obvious response. Whichever you want to believe.

For your information, Bush invaded Afghanistan which was under the Taliban and AL-Qaeda at that time, so your BS about it not being a nation is a flat argument. The law is the law, picking and choosing when to abide by it is not only criminal, but disgraceful.

skyfet said:
For your information, Bush invaded Afghanistan which was under the Taliban and AL-Qaeda at that time, so your BS about it not being a nation is a flat argument. The law is the law, picking and choosing when to abide by it is not only criminal, but disgraceful.

Well, no it wasn’t… but since you’re making stuff up, who cares?

And do you feel that the Obama Administration should be prosecuted too for continuing many of the programs which you would charge the Bush Administration with war crimes for?

This is spin to say the least:

Here are the numbers:

* ABC’s “This Week”
o Obama National Security Adviser Tom Donilon – 9 minutes
o Bush Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice – 2 minutes
o Liz Cheney – less than two minutes
* CBS’s “Face the Nation”
o Senator John Kerry (D-Mass.) – 11 minutes
o Bush Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld – 8 minutes
* CNN’s “State of the Union”
o Donilon – 14 minutes
o Sen. Dick Lugar (R-Ind.) – 8 minutes
o Former Obama Communications Director Anita Dunn – approximately 4 minutes
o Former Republican Congressman Tom Davis – approximately 4 minutes
* “Fox News Sunday”
o Donilon – 15 minutes
o Former Vice President Dick Cheney – 15 minutes
* NBC’s “Meet the Press”
o Donilon – 13 minutes
o Bush Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, Bush CIA Director Michael Hayden, and Rudy Giuliani in a joint discussion with host David Gregory – 10 minutes

Totals by administration affiliation:

* Obama
o Donilon – 51 minutes
o Kerry – 11 minutes
o Dunn – 4 minutes
o Total – 66 minutes
* Bush
o D. Cheney – 15 minutes
o Chertoff, Giuliani and Hayden – 10 minutes
o Rumsfeld – 8 minutes
o Lugar – 8 minutes
o Davis – 4 minutes
o Rice – 2 minutes
o L. Cheney – less than 2 minutes
o Total – less than 49 minutes

ImNotBlue said:
Well, no it wasn’t… but since you’re making stuff up, who cares?

And do you feel that the Obama Administration should be prosecuted too for continuing many of the programs which you would charge the Bush Administration with war crimes for?

Like torture? they stopped that (News flash for ya).

They’ve reverted to the US Army field manual.

I thought the media was biased towards the Left. You would expect such a disproportion on Fixed News, but other networks?

skyfet said:
Like torture? they stopped that (News flash for ya).

They’ve reverted to the US Army field manual.

Rendition, secret prisons, using information gained via torture (see OBL), Gitmo, etc.

ImNotBlue said:
Rendition, secret prisons, using information gained via torture (see OBL), Gitmo, etc.

lol, thats an old argument. You claimed they are still using torture, which is a blatant lie. You need to apologize for lying.

So much for the liberal bias media! The “teas” need new spew!

Colby must be following Maddow around like a little dog on a lesh.

Another vast right-wing conspiracy.

If Colby Hall and Rachel Maddow would have done their homework, they would realize that although Republicans outnumbered Democrats 9 to 3, the Sunday news shows gave the Dems 66 minutes of time to speak, whereas they gave Republicans ~45 minutes.

And Rachel Maddow is upset at lack of diversity of guests? She has on about 1 conservative for every 100 liberals on her show.

I’ve noticed that Mediaite has the ‘Lean Forward’ advertisements for MSNBC on their homepage. No wonder they carry the water for MSNBC and the cronies at that network.

darladoon said:
still haven’t heard a good argument for the $4 trillion invasions of two gigantic and dangerous muslim countries

(waiting)

I still haven’t heard about the $4 trillion. I’ll wait.

It only makes sense that Bush Administration senior officials would be asked about the search for Osama bin Laden — since they were the ones who put together the search strategy that ultimately succeeded.

seek said:
You of course know, because you’re very knowledgable that Haliburton is now working for the Obama admin.

I’m not sure about that. KBR, Kellogg, Brown & Roote, was spun off from Halliburton several years ago. So I do not think Halliburton is involved in any contracts with the federal government, or certainly nothing major.

Halliburton is manufacturing, construction, and oil-services company headquarters in Houston and Dubai. It is still listed on the NYSE, but increasingly its activities are primarily outside the US.

Can anyone explain to me why Halliburton is hated so much by the lefties?

skyfet said:
lol, thats an old argument. You claimed they are still using torture, which is a blatant lie. You need to apologize for lying.

Really? Why don’t you quote where I said that.

And which is older… the argument that for some reason Bush and Cheney are “war criminals,” or the argument that Obama has carried on much of what the left found so objectionable?

RyGuy said:
I’ve noticed that Mediaite has the ‘Lean Forward’ advertisements for MSNBC on their homepage. No wonder they carry the water for MSNBC and the cronies at that network.

It’s been around for a while. Full screen video commercials.

Yes, that strikes me unbiased.

J Baustian said:
It only makes sense that Bush Administration senior officials would be asked about the search for Osama bin Laden — since they were the ones who put together the search strategy that ultimately succeeded.

Funny, none of them explained shutting down the search section in 2005. None of them “clarified” that, “I don’t know where UBL is, and, frankly, I don’t care.” speech that W gave in 2002.
And none of the softball pitchers interviewing them had the cojones to ask.

skyfet said:
lol, thats an old argument. You claimed they are still using torture, which is a blatant lie. You need to apologize for lying.

sky! Take a break for dinner, Relax!
Have a glass of wine, Maybe a nap!
Then come back
and save the world for the rest of the night.
You been a busy little boy today!
Or is it Silly Old Turd with a Keyboard and a whole lot of time
on his hands?
Just askin’

That’s because the Dims didn’t know what the hell they were talking about.

Glackin said:
Glackin says:
May 10, 2011 at 2:45 pm Glackin(Quote)

Still sucking barry’s butt I see, son.

LOL

notsofast said:
Still sucking barry’s butt I see, son.

LOL

Still making up lies, I see, Girlie.
You lie more often than a two dollar whore on Saturday night.
Of course, they are better looking.

J Baustian said:
Can anyone explain to me why Halliburton is hated so much by the lefties?

They’re profitable.

Pablo said:
They’re profitable.

Ahhhh Pablo, in a nut shell. That was good. Funny and Real Good

Zandandido said:
This is spin to say the least:

Here are the numbers:

Well, done, Zndandido!

Its called having experts on to discuss the news in which they have experienced insight on. If the administration wasn’t too busy trying to play hush hush and avoiding questions raised maybe they would be on, or go on more shows. Also these guys don’t have jobs so can do this more easily.

joe7 said:
Its called having experts on to discuss the news in which they have experienced insight on. If the administration wasn’t too busy trying to play hush hush and avoiding questions raised maybe they would be on, or go on more shows. Also these guys don’t have jobs so can do this more easily.

They don’t have jobs? Pity. I guess their value as useful idiots is no longer marketable to the Koch’s or the other secret financiers of the reich.

“Former Bush Staffers Outnumbered Democrats On Sunday Morning Shows Three to One”

The right-wing bluffers and bloviators here can stick their heads in the sand, but this is even MORE proof – as if more was needed – that we have a conservative-owned CORPORATE media that too often distorts and mischaracterizes to please their conservative corporate masters.

The fact that ANY independent media still survive is somewhat of a miracle.

Glackin said:
Funny, none of them explained shutting down the search section in 2005. None of them “clarified” that, “I don’t know where UBL is, and, frankly, I don’t care.” speech that W gave in 2002.

Not really funny, because the search for Osama bin Laden certainly did not end in 2005.

As for your quote from 2002, I don’t know if it’s accurate or not. But it would make sense, if his questioner was focused only on bin Laden and not on al Qaeda in its entirety. The US has been fighting al Qaeda a decade, even we we did not have any information on the whereabouts of bin Laden.

Glackin said:
They don’t have jobs? Pity. I guess their value as useful idiots is no longer marketable to the Koch’s or the other secret financiers of the reich.

Koch = bad
Soros = good

Hey, all you Media Matters employees — it’s quitting time. So log out of all your Mediaite accounts and go home.

J Baustian said:
It only makes sense that Bush Administration senior officials would be asked about the search for Osama bin Laden — since they were the ones who put together the search strategy that ultimately succeeded.

Hahahaha. Funny shit.

ImNotBlue said:
Koch = bad
Soros = good

Soros–open as to his donations, philosophy.
Koch–Try to hide associations, angry about being outed.
I’ll trust Soros, thank you. I don’t know what the “Koch Scheme” is.
And neither do you.

Go home, kvon — unless they’re paying you for overtime. You have a sweet gig, you know, getting to read conservative articles and blogs all day long, composing irritating responses, and generating greater enthusiasm for conservative leaders and policies, AND GETTING PAID! Keep up the good work.

J Baustian said:
Not really funny, because the search for Osama bin Laden certainly did not end in 2005.

As for your quote from 2002, I don’t know if it’s accurate or not. But it would make sense, if his questioner was focused only on bin Laden and not on al Qaeda in its entirety. The US has been fighting al Qaeda a decade, even we we did not have any information on the whereabouts of bin Laden.

You DON’T KNOW? It’s only been on every network. You are either a buffoon or a liar like nutsofast.

Glackin said:
Soros–open as to his donations, philosophy.

That is the biggest pile of bull you’ve tried to pass today.

Do you know anything about the man?
A Jew who ratted out other Jews during the war. Yup – a stellar character. (ahh but he was young and didn’t know better).

Soros is for Soros – he’s tried to bring Government economies down. What the hell could you possible admire in a scum bucket like that?

ImNotBlue said:
Koch = bad
Soros = good

Do a little independent research. Take a look at the charitable donations the Koch brothers have made.

Then look at Soros and the huge sums he’s spent to destabilize the US economy and government.

Yes, I know, he is ultimately the one who is responsible for your job, even if his signature is not on your paycheck. So you get paid for praising George Soros and damning David Koch. But don’t you feel a little bit dirty? It’s a dirty job, but you don’t have to do it. There have to be janitorial and night watchman jobs that offer more job satisfaction than working for Media Matters.

J Baustian said:
Not really funny, because the search for Osama bin Laden certainly did not end in 2005.

As for your quote from 2002, I don’t know if it’s accurate or not. But it would make sense, if his questioner was focused only on bin Laden and not on al Qaeda in its entirety. The US has been fighting al Qaeda a decade, even we we did not have any information on the whereabouts of bin Laden.</blockquote

Bush closed the CIA section tasked with finding bin Laden in 2005. It's a matter of record.
In Obama's first meeting with Panetta, he ordered him to reopen the section and to devise a plan of action for use if he was located.
You are not entitled to your own facts. Welcome to the reality based world.

Glackin said:
You are either a buffoon or a liar like nutsofast.

Nope, not a buffoon or a liar. And not paid by Media Matters to make personal attacks, like you.

Hey, I heard someone wrote someone nice about George W Bush over at the Washington Post website. You’d better get over there right away and trash the author.

Glackin said:
In Obama’s first meeting with Panetta, he ordered him to reopen the section and to devise a plan of action for use if he was located.

Why did Panetta admit that harsh interrogation of Guantanamo inmates result in information about bin Laden’s courier? Why did Panetta say that they’d been working for more than FOUR years to identify that courier and follow him to bin Laden’s hideout?

So it would seem that Panetta knows and has gone on public record regarding the search for bin Laden, and how it did suddenly start up after Barack Obama became president.

Now, why don’t you stick to the facts?

Glackin said:
Soros–open as to his donations, philosophy.

Lie.

Koch–Try to hide associations, angry about being outed.

Lie.

I’ll trust Soros, thank you. I don’t know what the “Koch Scheme” is.
And neither do you.

Well, you’ll trust Soros because he wants to “fundamentally change the United States” in a way you agree… so who cares? Koch, on the other hand, probably not as much… so he’s “bad.”

Got it… it’s about you.

J Baustian said:

Methinks you missed my sarcasm.

J Baustian said:
Nope, not a buffoon or a liar. And not paid by Media Matters to make personal attacks, like you.

Hey, I heard someone wrote someone nice about George W Bush over at the Washington Post website. You’d better get over there right away and trash the author.

I have no association with Media Matters or any other website. You are now a proven liar.
I apologize to the buffoons.

J Baustian said:
Why did Panetta admit that harsh interrogation of Guantanamo inmates result in information about bin Laden’s courier? Why did Panetta say that they’d been working for more than FOUR years to identify that courier and follow him to bin Laden’s hideout?

So it would seem that Panetta knows and has gone on public record regarding the search for bin Laden, and how it did suddenly start up after Barack Obama became president.

Now, why don’t you stick to the facts?

bush gave up on bin laden almost from the beginning so he could go to iraq.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o

Glackin said:
Koch–Try to hide associations, angry about being outed.

Oh, do explain that, Joey.

seek said:
That is the biggest pile of bull you’ve tried to pass today.

Do you know anything about the man?
A Jew who ratted out other Jews during the war. Yup – a stellar character. (ahh but he was young and didn’t know better).

Soros is for Soros – he’s tried to bring Government economies down. What the hell could you possible admire in a scum bucket like that?

True, but he IS open about it. This is why Beck keeps pissing him off so much by playing him speaking. He’ll say EXACTLY what he’s up to, but most people don’t pay any attention to it until some rabble rouser starts playing him over and over and over.

Colby, you just got your ass handed to you:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/05/10/rachel-maddow-accuses-sunday-talk-shows-being-biased-towards-george-w

ImNotBlue said:
Lie.

Lie.

Well, you’ll trust Soros because he wants to “fundamentally change the United States” in a way you agree… so who cares? Koch, on the other hand, probably not as much… so he’s “bad.”

Got it… it’s about you..

Wrong, binkie. It’s about us. It’s about “We, the people”. Not the corporations.
I never said I accept every part of what Soros says. I said I could trust the fact that he was open.
Koch Bros have objected to being identified as the money behind various front groups they use to funnel money. Take a look at ” http://www.usnews.com/peterfenn/2011/02/02“.

seek said:

Using Beck really gives you authority.

OxyCon said:
Colby, you just got your ass handed to you:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/05/10/rachel-maddow-accuses-sunday-talk-shows-being-biased-towards-george-w

now how does colby get his ass handed to him? because some clown is anal enough to count the minutes each person was on camera and add it up?
which btw rachel doesn’t say. all she said was there were more representatives from the war criminals administration as opposed to reps from obama.

Glackin said:
Wrong, binkie. It’s about us. It’s about “We, the people”. Not the corporations.
I never said I accept every part of what Soros says. I said I could trust the fact that he was open.
Koch Bros have objected to being identified as the money behind various front groups they use to funnel money. Take a look at ” http://www.usnews.com/peterfenn/2011/02/02“.

there’s an error to your link. anyway, isn’t it the chamber of commerce that refused to show where their money went or even if they did or didn’t receive money from china that was used for republican campaigns.

Glackin said:
Wrong, binkie. It’s about us. It’s about “We, the people”. Not the corporations.
I never said I accept every part of what Soros says. I said I could trust the fact that he was open.
Koch Bros have objected to being identified as the money behind various front groups they use to funnel money. Take a look at ” http://www.usnews.com/peterfenn/2011/02/02“.

The correct link is http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/Peter-Fenn/2011/02/02/tea-party-funding-koch-brothers-emerge-from-anonymity

The article is Democrat strategist Peter Fenn, and he gets his information from a New Yorker article by Jane Mayer. Perhaps, if he was interested in the truth, he would have found a more truthful source, because Jane Mayers’ article was filled with so many mistakes that any decent editor would have thrown it out and told her to start over.

Most of the money Charles and David Koch have contributed to political causes have been out in the open, to organizations like the Cato Institute and the Federalist Society. They have given the legal amounts for federal candidates. They have NOT created webs of interlocking phony groups and organizations, like George Soros has, to disguise his participation and the amounts he spends.

Even if the numbers are true, which neither you nor I nor Jane Mayers can verify, the amount they have allegedly spent in the last ten years is less than half what Soros spent in the 2008 election cycle alone.

I would also ask you to look at the non-political charitable contributions that the brothers give away, to museums and orchestras and even to the producers of programs shown on Public TV. Then see if you can find any evidence that George Soros does anything with his money except try to destroy the economy and the political system of the United States of America.

J Baustian said:
I would also ask you to look at the non-political charitable contributions that the brothers give away, to museums and orchestras and even to the producers of programs shown on Public TV. Then see if you can find any evidence that George Soros does anything with his money except try to destroy the economy and the political system of the United States of America.

Hitler loved children.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
bush gave up on bin laden almost from the beginning so he could go to iraq.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o

I watched that video and George W Bush did not say what you imply he said. He said he was focused on the mission, not on one man, and he was focused on making sure the military had what he needed to destroy al Qaeda.

Plus, the questioner was asking a biased and antagonistic question, so it is not surprising that he gave an abrupt and somewhat unfriendly answer. “Why don’t you mention Osama bin Laden in every speech?” That was March 2002, no one knew where Obama was, he had not yet started releasing video tapes. If there had been any news to report, don’t you think the president would have reported it? Or if he didn’t then maybe there was a reason to keep certain information secret? That was also before the NY Times started passing secrets to al Qaeda about NSA monitoring of al Qaeda cell phone conversations.

As for Iraq, the US killed many thousands of al Qaeda in Iraq, compared to no more than a few hundred in Afghanistan.

Glackin said:
Hitler loved children

And Godwin’s Law says once you’ve mentioned Hitler, you have lost the argument.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/2.10/godwin.if.html

joe7 said:
Its called having experts on to discuss the news in which they have experienced insight on. If the administration wasn’t too busy trying to play hush hush and avoiding questions raised maybe they would be on, or go on more shows. Also these guys don’t have jobs so can do this more easily.

Glackin said:
They don’t have jobs? Pity. I guess their value as useful idiots is no longer marketable to the Koch’s or the other secret financiers of the reich.

What in the world…

It was kind of a pun on my part, sorry if you thought it was somehow a crafty opening for such sillyness. Do you call all administration Nazi words or just some of them? Because its litterally interchangable.

Love the picture! I smell a “Brady Bunch” reboot.

Once again, MSNBC is talking about what the other news networks are doing.

joe7 said:
What in the world…

It was kind of a pun on my part, sorry if you thought it was somehow a crafty opening for such sillyness. Do you call all administration Nazi words or just some of them? Because its litterally interchangable.

The reich is my name for the plutocracy dreamed of by the Kochs and the other money men behind the astro-tea parties and the puppets they select and fund for office. It’s not any named party. They refuse to admit it exists or discuss it with ‘outsiders’–sort of like “Skull and Bones”, or the KKK. Since they won’t name it, I feel free to supply one myself.

Glackin said:
The reich is my name for the plutocracy dreamed of by the Kochs and the other money men behind the astro-tea parties and the puppets they select and fund for office. It’s not any named party. They refuse to admit it exists or discuss it with ‘outsiders’–sort of like “Skull and Bones”, or the KKK. Since they won’t name it, I feel free to supply one myself.

Lay off the pipe dude.

Glackin said:
The reich is my name for the plutocracy dreamed of by the Kochs and the other money men behind the astro-tea parties and the puppets they select and fund for office.

The Koch brothers are best known as the founders of the libertarian Cato Institute and the Federalist Society, which promote original intent in the interpretation of the Constitution. Both organizations are devoted to the idea of a smaller less-intrusive government.

I am hardly surprised that someone like you, who supports the progressive agenda as a stepping-stone to totalitarianism, would be so strongly opposed to anyone who stands in the way.

There are only two basic political philosophies, libertarianism and totalitarianism. Thankfully there are still people like David and Charles Koch who are not only willing to take a stand against totalitarianism but also have the resources.

Bush Administration Failed….. President Obama Administration Suceeds… History cannot be rewritten… smile :-)