These two are America’s worst offenders of vitriolic political rhetoric and unsubstantiated wild conspiracy theories.

At this point, one has a hard time not feeling a little bad for Sarah Palin.
– I feel sorry for her because of you left wing haters….Jon. It is all about the story and and the headline.

Try doing a piece on the lefty haters…they are everywhere!

Cue the insane Mediaite army defending their messiah…

Suddenly not using her First amendment right with her voice to defend her Second amendment right rhetoric. What happened Sarah? suddenly lost your voice?

I don’t think people should attack sarah palin for this but the fact that she removed that poster of hers and that one specific tweet about “don’t retreat, RELOAD” before anyone even found out the the name of the shooter gives it away completely. It basically says that IN HER OWN MIND there was a possibility of guilt, and her first action was to try and hide the evidence in a panic.

And now all of the sudden she “hates war” and “hates violence”. Can you say backpedal?

She’s not to blame for this, she’s to blame for a lot of annoying things but not really for this. Whatever.

possibly said:
These two are America’s worst offenders of vitriolic political rhetoric and unsubstantiated wild conspiracy theories.

They have to be boogie-persons……………….to Liberals. Truth and Logic are enemies to the LIBERAL agenda, and we understand your need to demonize those who speak with those attributes.

kvon said:
Cue the insane Mediaite army defending their messiah…

that’s QUEEN,, to be precise
And she will soon be yours as well
2012!!

BatBoy said:
At this point, one has a hard time not feeling a little bad for Sarah Palin.– I feel sorry for her because of you left wing haters….Jon. It is all about the story and and the headline. Try doing a piece on the lefty haters…they are everywhere!

A 9 year old child was shot and killed and ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS PALIN!!

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!

“one has a hard time not feeling a little bad for Sarah Palin”

No, I do not feel bad for Palin. She has capitalized on hate speech, violent imagery, and throwing red meat to rabid teabaggers for a few years now. First for polotical gain next for monitary gain.

She is a symbol of what is so very wrong in our polotical discourse in the 21st Century.

She has no problem spewing any hateful or hurtful trash from her lips and also has no problem playing the poor victim when the shit hits the fan.

She needs to just quit this job, like all the others.

So Beck is saying you are either with the left or with the Muslims. Interesting.

possibly says:
These two are America’s worst offenders of vitriolic political rhetoric and unsubstantiated wild conspiracy theories.

I’ve been asking the left to prove this all weekend and I still haven’t gotten an answer. Care to take a stab at it?

And Spinecrusher, spare us your FAUX outrage. It’s the left that has treated this not as a tragedy, but as an outlet for their Palin Derangement Syndrome and openly hoping it ends her career. Look in the mirror pal.

The ONLY person responsible is the shooter. The usual suspects on the left have made fools out of themselves again. There is NO REAL pressure on Palin or Beck. It is hyped nonsense from the left-wing media. Palin, Beck, Limbaugh and all the others will come out on top because of the over reach by the loons.

This is just the same old crap from the loons and it has already passed.

Now were starting to learn the shooter is a left wing nut job… lets see the media spin this one.

Timothy Wright said:
She has no problem spewing any hateful or hurtful trash from her lips and also has no problem playing the poor victim when the shit hits the fan.

Give me a list of her “hateful or hurtful trash”. LOL You clearly have a screw loose. Someone needs to turn you in before you hurt yourself.

SpineCrusher said:
A 9 year old child was shot and killed and ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS PALIN!! WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!

A 9 year old child was killed and all you care about is blaming Palin….WTF is wrong with you?

Maybe Daily Kos was responsible……

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=249273

Timothy Wright said:
“one has a hard time not feeling a little bad for Sarah Palin” No, I do not feel bad for Palin. She has capitalized on hate speech, violent imagery, and throwing red meat to rabid teabaggers for a few years now. First for polotical gain next for monitary gain. She is a symbol of what is so very wrong in our polotical discourse in the 21st Century. She has no problem spewing any hateful or hurtful trash from her lips and also has no problem playing the poor victim when the shit hits the fan. She needs to just quit this job, like all the others.

Spinecrusher wants to know WTF is wrong with you assclown……..

SpineCrusher said:
A 9 year old child was shot and killed and ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS PALIN!! WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!

Hmmm? Talk about violence, with a phony name like “SpineCrusher”? Who are you trying to scare. Why are you a coward hiding behind that violent name? Hmmmmmmm?

I don’t think it’s fair to hold her directly responsible for the attacks.

That said, I think she and Glenn Beck are two of the biggest factors behind the nasty, partisan political climate. They don’t just disagree with liberals, they demonize us.

Rather than say “their policies are wrong” or “Obama’s a terrible president”, they have to take it to the level of “liberals are out to systematically destroy America” or “Obama has a deep-seated hatred of white people”.

Wasn’t it the DEM pollster Mark Penn that said Obama needed an OK City like tragedy? Just something to think about. In fact, I remember several libs saying he needed some sort of a tragedy. How sick is that?

Is Sarah to blame for the attacks? No.

Is she culpable, at least in part, for the nasty, partisan atmosphere? You betcha.

gordonbloyershow said:
Hmmm? Talk about violence, with a phony name like “SpineCrusher”? Who are you trying to scare. Why are you a coward hiding behind that violent name? Hmmmmmmm?

Still calling people Cowards? A draft dodger should be the last one calling people Cowards.
Capiche?

mibwilso said:
I don’t think it’s fair to hold her directly responsible for the attacks. That said, I think she and Glenn Beck are two of the biggest factors behind the nasty, partisan political climate. They don’t just disagree with liberals, they demonize us. Rather than say “their policies are wrong” or “Obama’s a terrible president”, they have to take it to the level of “liberals are out to systematically destroy America” or “Obama has a deep-seated hatred of white people”.

Really?

Why not Markos? Dead to me?

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=249273

skyfet said:
Still calling people Cowards? A draft dodger should be the last one calling people Cowards.Capiche?

Coward.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Wasn’t it the DEM pollster Mark Penn that said Obama needed an OK City like tragedy? Just something to think about. In fact, I remember several libs saying he needed some sort of a tragedy. How sick is that?

This is sick and shameful. You have a Child of your own. Put yourself in the Mother’s situation. Your hatred of Obama has made you deluded about the reality. By God I don’t understand how you jokers can make a political fight over this.

possibly said:
These two are America’s worst offenders of vitriolic political rhetoric and unsubstantiated wild conspiracy theories.

I thought the column was about Beck and Palin, not Olbermann and Schultz.

VoiceofReason said:
Really?

Why not Markos? Dead to me?

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=249273

Agree…Markos is part of it too. People on the left do it too, so I’m not applying a double standard.

But I ask you this: compare the size of his audience to hers….I would argue that far more people listen to her.

Also, she was an actual elected official, not just a blogger. There’s a HUGE difference.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Wasn’t it the DEM pollster Mark Penn that said Obama needed an OK City like tragedy? Just something to think about. In fact, I remember several libs saying he needed some sort of a tragedy. How sick is that?

Yes, it was.

However, while the story may have spun too far in one direction directly following the shooting, we can’t let anyone attempt to spin it too far the opposite way.

Great. So when are you going to stop connecting her to this story? This has NOTHING to do with Sarah Palin except for the lunatic blood libel that people are INVENTING facts to support.

That is the center of the issue, the only reasonable, logical conclusion. It can’t be spun any further right than the truth.

skyfet said:
This is sick and shameful. You have a Child of your own. Put yourself in the Mother’s situation. Your hatred of Obama has made you deluded about the reality. By God I don’t understand how you jokers can make a political fight over this.

US??????????

Wow.

BTW, I have three children and a grandchild. I have to tell you……what is REALLY off-putting is that now that all of the ammo is out of your gun and this ass has been shown to be waaaay more than likely a nutbag lib……you start with all this feigned indignation.

Fornicate thyself and the equine quadruped you rode in on.

Hey Skyfet,
As always, when something like this happens, I call it what it is, a lone nut. It’s the LEFT that constantly tries to pin it on Conservatives and I’m sick of it! It’s YOUR side that is more concerned with turning this tragedy into an outlet for their Palin Derangement Syndrome than mourning the loss of life. So I will tell you what I told Spine Crusher. Take your FAUX outrage and stick it. I’m simple not interested in it anymore.

skyfet said:
This is sick and shameful. You have a Child of your own. Put yourself in the Mother’s situation. Your hatred of Obama has made you deluded about the reality. By God I don’t understand how you jokers can make a political fight over this.

US!!! Have you watched the news on any channel for the last 48 hours!!! Are you joking!!! Who the hell made a political fight out of this with in hours of the shooting??? The Sheriff in charge for gods sake!!! Olbermann came in over the weekend to make a political fight out of this the same day as the shooting!!! WTF… were you serious with that statement???

that should be simply, in case the Royal Spelling and Grammar Czar is monitoring.

Are you kidding me????? Who the hell is feeling sorry for Sarah Palin?? She’s still alive. And NO there are NOT nut jobs on both sides. Just YOUR side Sarah Palin. Your side. YOU. YOU are the one who posted a map with crosshairs targeting actual human beings. YOU are telling people to RELOAD. YOU, Sarah Palin, are enticing this. YOU are. Why don’t you QUIT being in public, like you QUIT being a Governor. People may not die if YOU just RETREAT.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
possibly says:
These two are America’s worst offenders of vitriolic political rhetoric and unsubstantiated wild conspiracy theories.
I’ve been asking the left to prove this all weekend and I still haven’t gotten an answer. Care to take a stab at it?

Neither could Breitbart at the “stop the hate” rally. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWlqiv-YL7c

possibly said:
These two are America’s worst offenders of vitriolic political rhetoric and unsubstantiated wild conspiracy theories.

America’s most unsubstantiated wild conspiracy theory of the moment is the idea that Palin has something to do with the Giffords shooting. Own it.

Calvin said:
Neither could Breitbart at the “stop the hate” rally. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWlqiv-YL7c

Get an answer, that is.

mibwilso said:
Agree…Markos is part of it too. People on the left do it too, so I’m not applying a double standard. But I ask you this: compare the size of his audience to hers….I would argue that far more people listen to her. Also, she was an actual elected official, not just a blogger. There’s a HUGE difference.

First……I don’t know who has a bigger audience but that is just you trying to put a smilie face on this that you are now caught in. Fuck that. Both sides do the EXACT same shit but when something goes south that the left can possibly pin on the right…..out come the long knives. Wear it….y’all own this one lock stock and both barrels.

BTW it’s 2011……Palin is a paid commentoator on Fox News just like Markos is on PMSNBC. Neither is an elected official right now.

Kathryn Scaglione said:
Are you kidding me????? Who the hell is feeling sorry for Sarah Palin?? She’s still alive. And NO there are NOT nut jobs on both sides. Just YOUR side Sarah Palin. Your side. YOU. YOU are the one who posted a map with crosshairs targeting actual human beings. YOU are telling people to RELOAD. YOU, Sarah Palin, are enticing this. YOU are. Why don’t you QUIT being in public, like you QUIT being a Governor. People may not die if YOU just RETREAT.

YOU are insane and hateful. Get help.

skyfet said:
Still calling people Cowards? A draft dodger should be the last one calling people Cowards.Capiche?

I’m not a draft dodger but I think anyone who will type something on here that they wouldn’t say while looking that person in the eye is a coward. Now, are you a draft dodger and a coward?

Kathryn Scaglione said:
Are you kidding me????? Who the hell is feeling sorry for Sarah Palin?? She’s still alive. And NO there are NOT nut jobs on both sides. Just YOUR side Sarah Palin. Your side. YOU. YOU are the one who posted a map with crosshairs targeting actual human beings. YOU are telling people to RELOAD. YOU, Sarah Palin, are enticing this. YOU are. Why don’t you QUIT being in public, like you QUIT being a Governor. People may not die if YOU just RETREAT.

So did the left you screeching harpy.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wheres-the-outrage-at-dem-targeting

Sit down and shut up.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Wasn’t it the DEM pollster Mark Penn that said Obama needed an OK City like tragedy? Just something to think about. In fact, I remember several libs saying he needed some sort of a tragedy. How sick is that?

Don’t forget Ratigan.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/11/09/msnbc-host-dylan-ratigan-hints-violent-revolution

i read the post on marcos site,did you idiots think markos wrote that? check again stupid,palin said all those voilent rhetoric with her stupid mouth that is the difference.

Calvin said:
Don’t forget Ratigan. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/11/09/msnbc-host-dylan-ratigan-hints-violent-revolution

So did Trumpka. Just what…..weekend before last?

Kathryn says:

And NO there are NOT nut jobs on both sides. Just YOUR side Sarah Palin.

Really? The guy who shot Reagan was a conservative? The guy who took hostages at the Discovery Channel, who admitted that Gore’s An Inconvenient Truth, was a tea-partyer!?

YOU are the one who posted a map with crosshairs targeting actual human beings.

So did the Daily Kos, idiot!

beamangrow said:
i read the post on marcos site,did you idiots think markos wrote that? check again stupid,palin said all those voilent rhetoric with her stupid mouth that is the difference.

No we didn’t….and actually it doesn’t matter who wrote them.

I don’t see the problem with them. but your side does when somebody of a differing political bent does.

THAT is the difference moron.

Glenn Beck is a hypocrite, he made this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctwqnkWdCJg

Glenn Beck Threatens To Kill Michael Moore.

Who can Forget Clay Duke?

http://www.mediaite.com/online/glenn-beck-links-florida-shooter-to-media-matters-you-can-tell-hes-liberal-because-he-cant-shoot/

Let’s see this classic line:

But his admirable message took a turn when he began to politicize last night’s shooting.

Of course, the idiot who wrote that had to update the story with this:

To be fair, Glenn Beck ended the segment by making perfectly clear the role that Media Matters played in this awful event:

Glenn: Now, let me make one thing clear, because I know that there’s someplace, some pimply faced, sweaty 18-year-old kid who wants to make a name for himself. I’m going to be George Soros’s hero, and he’s right now in his mom’s basement typing away his latest blog for Media Matters. Let me make this very clear. Media Matters did not try to go in and shoot the school board. It was the crazy nut job that did it. Period.
Nobody’s responsible for making anybody go do anything violent except crazy people who decide that violence is the answer. Yeah, that’s who did it.

STU: And Media Matters is absolutely not responsible for that. It’s his fault.

I love the false equivalency the Far Right always tries to push whenever one of their own does something wacky.

Sorry, but a few wacky environmentalists vandalizing SUVs, or a couple of cranky bloggers are not equivalent to wingnuts shooting politicians. Or teabagger politicians telling people to “don’t retreat, reload” or “gather your armies” or to use “2nd Amendment remedies”.

Not the same, folks. But the right always tries to act as though there is always equal and opposite crazy on our side.

We’ve got a few nutjobs over here on the left, but there simply aren’t as many…and they aren’t as vocal/active.

mibwilso said:
I love the false equivalency the Far Right always tries to push whenever one of their own does something wacky.

Sorry, but a few wacky environmentalists vandalizing SUVs, or a couple of cranky bloggers are not equivalent to wingnuts shooting politicians. Or teabagger politicians telling people to “don’t retreat, reload” or “gather your armies” or to use “2nd Amendment remedies”.

Not the same, folks. But the right always tries to act as though there is always equal and opposite crazy on our side.

We’ve got a few nutjobs over here on the left, but there simply aren’t as many…and they aren’t as vocal/active.

Damn good point.

Not the same, folks. But the right always tries to act as though there is always equal and opposite crazy on our side.

We’ve got a few nutjobs over here on the left, but there simply aren’t as many…and they aren’t as vocal/active

Care to prove that?

Apparently Gordon Bloyer knows for a fact that the shooter lived in a bubble and the heated rhetoric of the right never reached his thick skull.

Gordo also says “IT HAS ALREADY PASSED”

Hey buddy, The cross hairs map, Giffords video with concerns that it would lead to bad things etc. will be FOREVER paired with Sarah Palin. RUN SARAH RUN!!!!!!

http://www.mediaite.com/online/glenn-becks-dangerous-monologue-against-violence/

The difference between the Right and the Left on the issue of violent rhetoric?

The violent, over-the-top lefties aren’t elected officials…..it’s usually bloggers or commentators.

The nutty conservatives somehow manage to get elected, which makes them even more dangerous.

VoiceofReason says:
January 10, 2011 at 12:58 pm VoiceofReason(Quote)
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beamangrow said:
i read the post on marcos site,did you idiots think markos wrote that? check again stupid,palin said all those voilent rhetoric with her stupid mouth that is the difference.

No we didn’t….and actually it doesn’t matter who wrote them.

I don’t see the problem with them. but your side does when somebody of a differing political bent does.

THAT is the difference moron.

you did not see any problem with them because there wasnt any,you rightwing nutjobs cant see the difference,that is why you always resort to voilence.Palin is a half term ex governer you idiot,she needs to be more responsible with her rhetoric.

there’s no way i’m going to feel the least bit sorry for sarah palin. this is what one of her followers had to say about the death of christina green (comparing her death to killing hitler as a child)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_S2xhjKYIrNY/TSoLO9DVP6I/AAAAAAAAAco/hM0vXv2y7Q0/s1600/23.jpg

she’s used gun imagery to target giffords and other liberal politicians. her own FB has insane comments that they leave up, while anything critical of palin is deleted immediately.

no, she does not get to wiggle out of this one.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Not the same, folks. But the right always tries to act as though there is always equal and opposite crazy on our side.

We’ve got a few nutjobs over here on the left, but there simply aren’t as many…and they aren’t as vocal/active

Care to prove that?

_______________

Can you name the last time a left-wing person carried out a high profile attack? You’d have to go back to Ronald Reagan in the early 80′s at best.

Just within the last 15 years, you’ve had folks like Tim McVeigh, the Unabomber, Eric Rudolph, the George Tiller assassin, and now this.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Not the same, folks. But the right always tries to act as though there is always equal and opposite crazy on our side. We’ve got a few nutjobs over here on the left, but there simply aren’t as many…and they aren’t as vocal/active Care to prove that?

Reminds me of the Rally To Restore Sanity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlMq1R-64Qc (3:19) (2:19)

There have always been mass murderers, but in the old days they were simply deemed as being crazy. Thank goodness in today’s enlightened age, we realize it’s all due to political rhetoric.

I think Kathryne Skaglione just soiled her underwear. While she is changing
pick any dozen comments from the leftie nuts that post here over the last
48 hours. If you can read that shit and not come to the conclusion these nut
sacks are not crazier than the fool that just did the shooting you need your
own head examined.
Expect the nuts for the next 150 posts or so led by the phony RRK.
GBR will further delay his very important BECK Bombshell, while he comments for
the 10,000th time that Beck lies.
You people make Loughrin look normal.
Have at it!!!

Can you name the last time a left-wing person carried out a high profile attack? You’d have to go back to Ronald Reagan in the early 80’s at best.

Well I’ve said it several times, so listen up because I’m getting sick of repeating it. The guy who took hostages at the Discovery Channel said he was driven to it by AL GORE’s An Inconvenient Truth!!!!!!!

mibwilso said:
I love the false equivalency the Far Right always tries to push whenever one of their own does something wacky. Sorry, but a few wacky environmentalists vandalizing SUVs, or a couple of cranky bloggers are not equivalent to wingnuts shooting politicians. Or teabagger politicians telling people to “don’t retreat, reload” or “gather your armies” or to use “2nd Amendment remedies”. Not the same, folks. But the right always tries to act as though there is always equal and opposite crazy on our side. We’ve got a few nutjobs over here on the left, but there simply aren’t as many…and they aren’t as vocal/active.

Also inciting people by calling the president a terrorist. The whole 2008 Campaign she went after Obama as a Muslim Terrorist. Every Speech, every Meet. Even McCain told her to stop. That’s when she went Rogue. If you keep playing on people’s fear, you get what you get. As far as calling this guy Jared Loughner a lefty. Nice try but No Cigar. No lefty I have ever known believes the currency is not legal. That Gold is the standard. Hate’s the current government. These are all Far Right views. Per The Southern Poverty Law Center. “This individual displays far right idea’s and philosophy”. The Southern Poverty Law Center is the expert on hate groups in this country. Left and Right.

Hey mibwilso, I was watching 48 hours on CBS the other night and an Obama supporter committed a murder. Now I know she was an Obama supporter because for some weird reason CBS zeroed in on an Obama for pres t shirt. Does that mean that all murderers are obama supporters?

RichS said:
sky

If you dodge the draft you dudge the draft, if you are a coward you are a coward. Calling someone a Coward behind a password doesn’t make you or him tough. I tell ya!

Kathryn Scaglione said:
Are you kidding me????? Who the hell is feeling sorry for Sarah Palin?? She’s still alive. And NO there are NOT nut jobs on both sides. Just YOUR side Sarah Palin. Your side. YOU. YOU are the one who posted a map with crosshairs targeting actual human beings. YOU are telling people to RELOAD. YOU, Sarah Palin, are enticing this. YOU are. Why don’t you QUIT being in public, like you QUIT being a Governor. People may not die if YOU just RETREAT.

Wanna see something REALLY scary ? Click on this liberal’s page .
http://www.facebook.com/STLkattjoy#!/STLkattjoy?v=info

Hey mibwilso, remember the professor who shot up the place last year? Big lib!

Don’t worry folks, pretty soon GBR (a.k.a. “Bombshell”) will be here to PROVE! that Glenn Beck is responsible for all the tragedy that played out in Tucson the other day. (Everyone knows that “Bombshell” has a network of secret agents providing him with information that we can never be privy to, and he cannot reveal his sources because he wants to protect them–yada yada yada.

For the rest of us, we now know that the shooter has been identified by those who know him as a LEFT-WING POTHEAD, who had erected a cult-type altar in his parents back yard–sort of like the one “Bombshell” has in his parents’ basement.

For the rest of you liberal fools who are trying to spin this in such a way as to make conservatives responsible for the acts of a clearly liberal loon, I hope you will eventually realize that, as you are not responsible for the actions of anyone other than yourselves, neither are conservatives. That’s what being a responsible individual is really all about.

Davo said:
those who speak

These two are top for preaching hate and America is going down.They and all of the others who talk like this have all gone far enough.Maybe all of this will cause some to pause or they like it and it will just get worse.

Here’s my conspiracy theory for the day: seeing how the liberal left and media didn’t waste a nano-second to pounce upon Palin over this I think the left put him up to it just so that they could have this rallying cry.

http://bgalrstate.blogspot.com/2011/01/real-problem-this-weekend.html

Hey mibwilso, remember a couple weeks ago when the guy drew a gun at a town hall meeting? A lib railing against the rich.

Recent Left Wing Threats of Violence (Let’s Document Them)
03/25/10 | Reaganesque

Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:29:08 AM by Reaganesque

Let’s document here the numerous death threats the Left has made against us and right-wing politicians.

A few that come to my mind immediately:

The movie “Death of a President” (2006) by British film makers Gabriel Range and Simon Finch

Cindy Sheehan’s Book: “Peace Mom” in which she fantasizes about going back in time and killing the infant George W. Bush.

Alec Baldwin’s suggestion on the David Letterman show that Henry Hyde and his family should be dragged into the street and stoned to death.

Nicholson Baker’s ” Checkpoint,” a novella conversation between two people about the advisability of assassinating Bush.

“Kill Bush” t-shirt on sale at CafePress.

The constant vandalism of ALF and ELF.

The movie, “The Last Supper,” starring Cameron Diaz and others where a group of young, hip Libs invite to Conservatives to diner to poison them under the rationale that they are preventing a future Hitler. At the end of the movie, they come to realize that killing is wrong so they spare their last Conservative who then goes on to be the next Hitler. Moral of the story, kill Conservatives if you have the chance.

John Wayne Gacy had his picture taken with Rosalynn Carter. Later on, thirty bodies were found in Gacy’s crawl space. Coincidence?

Rox and Be a man, Why have you been unable to provide evidence of your claims? Come on, in the age of Google, it should be easy.

mibwilso said:
Can you name the last time a left-wing person carried out a high profile attack? You’d have to go back to Ronald Reagan in the early 80’s at best.

http://www.tobytoons.com/td/node/336

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2011/01/two-sicknesses-on-display-in-arizona.html

Here is just a partial list of events in which the left-wing and Democratic Party media operation has immediately blamed right-wing rhetoric, only to be proven wrong when the facts finally came out: Bill Sparkman, Amy Bishop, The Fort Hood Shooter, The IRS Plane Crasher, The Cabbie Stabbing, and The Pentagon Shooter.

mibwilso said:
Just within the last 15 years, you’ve had folks like Tim McVeigh, the Unabomber, Eric Rudolph, the George Tiller assassin, and now this.

McVeigh was a left wing anarchist and an atheist. Conemned by the right. Unabomber was an eco left wing anarchist nut. Eric Rudolph was condemned by the right as was George Tiller. Nobody made those people do anything. It was their insanity that made them choose to do those things.

Kathryn Scaglione said:
Are you kidding me????? Who the hell is feeling sorry for Sarah Palin?? She’s still alive. And NO there are NOT nut jobs on both sides. Just YOUR side Sarah Palin. Your side. YOU. YOU are the one who posted a map with crosshairs targeting actual human beings. YOU are telling people to RELOAD. YOU, Sarah Palin, are enticing this. YOU are. Why don’t you QUIT being in public, like you QUIT being a Governor. People may not die if YOU just RETREAT.

There’s nothing more pathetic than a chump like this who doesn’t even realize she’s being played like a fiddle by the left. At least the usual lefties here know that they’re being dishonest, this poor broad is actually indignant.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Can you name the last time a left-wing person carried out a high profile attack? You’d have to go back to Ronald Reagan in the early 80’s at best.

Well I’ve said it several times, so listen up because I’m getting sick of repeating it. The guy who took hostages at the Discovery Channel said he was driven to it by AL GORE’s An Inconvenient Truth!!!!!!!

Ok, you get one point, fair enough.
But was Al Gore urging his supporters to take 2nd Amendment remedies against anyone? No.
Did his movie have violent imagery? No.
Was he placing target symbols on anti-environment politicians? No.
Did he tell environmentalists “Dont retreat, Reload”? No.

My argument is NOT that there are no crazies on the Left….my argument is that our elected officials don’t go around stoking anti-government fear and paranoia. Nor do they go around using violent imagery and rhetoric.

Hey were you libs outraged at this:

The “Snipers Wanted” caption under a picture of George Bush on one of the late-night TV shows (Craig Kilborn?) about 10 years ago.

Pablo said:
stop connecting her to this story

She is One of the problems is why she is connected.

This is also one of Your TeaBagging Right Wingers, Joyce Kaufman who was taaped to be Republican Congressman West’s Chif Of Staff. . This is from right here at Mediaite.November 12th, 2010. Here’s the Statement:::

When conservative Florida radio host Joyce Kaufman went to a Tea Party rally on July 4, she got so fired-up that she was moved to make a fairly incendiary statement: “If ballots don’t work, bullets will.”

It’s pretty Clear What She Said. Deffend That.

Calvin said:
McVeigh was a left wing anarchist and an atheist. Conemned by the right. Unabomber was an eco left wing anarchist nut. Eric Rudolph was condemned by the right as was George Tiller. Nobody made those people do anything. It was their insanity that made them choose to do those things.

But the libs will STILL try to spin it that the conservatives pushed him over the edge. Libs are ALL about blaming everyone else but themselves for the suffering they endure.

Come on Box of Rox, why are you having such a problem providing evidence for your smears?

Calvin said:
http://www.tobytoons.com/td/node/336

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2011/01/two-sicknesses-on-display-in-arizona.html

Here is just a partial list of events in which the left-wing and Democratic Party media operation has immediately blamed right-wing rhetoric, only to be proven wrong when the facts finally came out: Bill Sparkman, Amy Bishop, The Fort Hood Shooter, The IRS Plane Crasher, The Cabbie Stabbing, and The Pentagon Shooter.

McVeigh was a left wing anarchist and an atheist. Conemned by the right. Unabomber was an eco left wing anarchist nut. Eric Rudolph was condemned by the right as was George Tiller. Nobody made those people do anything. It was their insanity that made them choose to do those things.

____________

You’re a nut. The Fort Hood shooter never identified with liberal causes or groups. Just because he’s a muslim makes him a liberal??

Same is true of the IRS plane crasher….do you have any proof he’s a liberal?? Last I checked, the anti-tax folks don’t usually like libs too much.

You cant just make these folks you listed into liberals just because you say so. None of them claimed affiliation with any liberal causes, or liberal groups…or liberal views. So your argument doesn’t hold water.

Kathy Griffin: “I Want To Push Sarah Palin Down The Stairs”

MSNBC’s Plan to Change Joe Lieberman’s Vote: “Punching Him Out”

Bomb Threat Forces Evacuation of DC TEA Party Planners

Palin’s church burned. ATF Says Accelerant Found Around Entrances of Palin’s Blazed Church

SpineCrusher said:
A 9 year old child was shot and killed and ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS PALIN!! WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!

I was responding to the article.

The question most of us have is what is wrong with you lefties.

There is no clear reason for this tragedy. NONE! NADA! Nothing! And there won’t be for quite some time. Have some respect for the 9 year old girl and the others who were killed and injured that day. We have to find out what happened and why…thank GOD the police are going about this in a methodical manner.

BUT that does not stop you HATERS of the LEFT! You try to fix blame when you don’t even know what the issue is. SO I ASK YOU…to use your words… “WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!”

You don’t even have to answer that question because most of us know…unfortunately you don’t have a clue to what you do.

Try to Wise Up, just once in your life.

Seeing 2012 From My Window says:
January 10, 2011 at 1:36 pm Seeing 2012 From My Window(Quote)
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Kathy Griffin: “I Want To Push Sarah Palin Down The Stairs”

MSNBC’s Plan to Change Joe Lieberman’s Vote: “Punching Him Out”

Bomb Threat Forces Evacuation of DC TEA Party Planners

Palin’s church burned. ATF Says Accelerant Found Around Entrances of Palin’s Blazed Church

and these are example of what ?

cmdrgmh said:
This is also one of Your TeaBagging Right Wingers, Joyce Kaufman who was taaped to be Republican Congressman West’s Chif Of Staff. . This is from right here at Mediaite.November 12th, 2010. Here’s the Statement::: When conservative Florida radio host Joyce Kaufman went to a Tea Party rally on July 4, she got so fired-up that she was moved to make a fairly incendiary statement: “If ballots don’t work, bullets will.” It’s pretty Clear What She Said. Deffend That.

This nut has a hate-filled website he has had to hide since . Put it up again , Crazy Greg .

DEATH TO ‘JOE’ – CAUGHT ON TAPE: KGO Talker Wants Ohio Plumber Killed

Brian Maloney

One must remember in these trying times that the REAL victims are Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, the Tea Party, and Republicans. Shame on Giffords for hogging all the victimhood.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
I’m simple

HAHAHHA

VoiceofReason said:
Wow.
BTW, I have three children and a grandchild. I have to tell you……what is REALLY off-putting is that now that all of the ammo is out of your gun and this ass has been shown to be waaaay more than likely a nutbag lib……you start with all this feigned indignation.
Fornicate thyself and the equine quadruped you rode in on

Wow…

YOU have three children and a grandchild? From reading the comments you leave, I’m glad I’m not one of them.

mibwilso said:
I love the false equivalency the Far Right always tries to push whenever one of their own does something wacky. Sorry, but a few wacky environmentalists vandalizing SUVs, or a couple of cranky bloggers are not equivalent to wingnuts shooting politicians. Or teabagger politicians telling people to “don’t retreat, reload” or “gather your armies” or to use “2nd Amendment remedies”. Not the same, folks. But the right always tries to act as though there is always equal and opposite crazy on our side. We’ve got a few nutjobs over here on the left, but there simply aren’t as many…and they aren’t as vocal/active.

WTF? Have you been living in a cave and only pumped in PMSNBC?

You have a couple of crazies? REALLY? FIRST OF ALL……..THIS GUY IS ONE OF YOURS!!!!!!!!!! He’s a freaking Marxist. He thinks George Bush blew up the WTC.

What not enough killers to click your radar?

Amy Bishop ring a bell? How about JJ Lee? They were just the most recent.

Jayson said:
Wow… YOU have three children and a grandchild? From reading the comments you leave, I’m glad I’m not one of them.

Me too dickhead.

Seeing 2012 From My Window says:
January 10, 2011 at 1:30 pm Seeing 2012 From My Window(Quote)
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Recent Left Wing Threats of Violence (Let’s Document Them)
03/25/10 | Reaganesque

Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:29:08 AM by Reaganesque

Let’s document here the numerous death threats the Left has made against us and right-wing politicians.

A few that come to my mind immediately:

The movie “Death of a President” (2006) by British film makers Gabriel Range and Simon Finch

Cindy Sheehan’s Book: “Peace Mom” in which she fantasizes about going back in time and killing the infant George W. Bush.

Alec Baldwin’s suggestion on the David Letterman show that Henry Hyde and his family should be dragged into the street and stoned to death.

Nicholson Baker’s ” Checkpoint,” a novella conversation between two people about the advisability of assassinating Bush.

“Kill Bush” t-shirt on sale at CafePress.

The constant vandalism of ALF and ELF.

The movie, “The Last Supper,” starring Cameron Diaz and others where a group of young, hip Libs invite to Conservatives to diner to poison them under the rationale that they are preventing a future Hitler. At the end of the movie, they come to realize that killing is wrong so they spare their last Conservative who then goes on to be the next Hitler. Moral of the story, kill Conservatives if you have the chance.

this comment is so stupid i dont know where to begin

gordonbloyershow said:
Give me a list of her “hateful or hurtful trash”. LOL You clearly have a screw loose. Someone needs to turn you in before you hurt yourself.

Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over death threats against Barack Obama

The Republican vice presidential candidate attracted criticism for accusing Mr Obama of “palling around with terrorists”, citing his association with the sixties radical William Ayers.

But it has now emerged that her demagogic tone may have unintentionally encouraged white supremacists to go even further.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/sarah-palin/3405336/Sarah-Palin-blamed-by-the-US-Secret-Service-for-death-threats-against-Barack-Obama.html

http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2010/11/still-leaning-iii-lean-harder.html

This was saw this coming when Palin put it out there. The republicans should have, in Palin’s words, “refudiated it. But they didn’t, they ignored it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSsyi6B-14o

So if i put a coss hair sign on Palin and her Broood and went about saying how much she is destroying America for Us real Americans and some human who agrees with me goes and kills her or her kids would I be to Blame or is it just mindless retoric everyone spews.

You think this is from the “left” also?

“U.S. Rep. Davis, a Democrat from Chicago, told the Chicago Tribune the email was sent to a staffer and read “Danny Davis is next,” likely referencing the Saturday shooting. Davis’ staff then notified the authorities. “”

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Kathy Griffin: “I Want To Push Sarah Palin Down The Stairs” MSNBC’s Plan to Change Joe Lieberman’s Vote: “Punching Him Out” Bomb Threat Forces Evacuation of DC TEA Party Planners Palin’s church burned. ATF Says Accelerant Found Around Entrances of Palin’s Blazed Church

Thats the best you got. A Comedian with no power and trashes everyone.
A Quote not assigned to anyone.
A unknown bomb threat, again not assigned to anyone.
A Church again not assigned to anyone.

There is no comparison.

Mediaites Story November, 12, 2010.
When conservative Florida radio host Joyce Kaufman went to a Tea Party rally on July 4, she got so fired-up that she was moved to make a fairly incendiary statement: “If ballots don’t work, bullets will.”

This nut was to be (R) Allen West’s Chief Of Staff. Now there’s your proof.

Kathryn Scaglione said:
Are you kidding me????? Who the hell is feeling sorry for Sarah Palin?? She’s still alive. And NO there are NOT nut jobs on both sides. Just YOUR side Sarah Palin. Your side. YOU. YOU are the one who posted a map with crosshairs targeting actual human beings. YOU are telling people to RELOAD. YOU, Sarah Palin, are enticing this. YOU are. Why don’t you QUIT being in public, like you QUIT being a Governor. People may not die if YOU just RETREAT.

Very nice.

Palin has yet to publicly denounce the actions of this political assassin.

cmdrgmh said:
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wheres-the-outrage-at-dem-targeting

BTW, the SPLC is a left wing group that spends it time and effort falsely pointing to right wingers as racists and other sorts of malfeasence.

Wisco said:
Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over death threats against Barack Obama The Republican vice presidential candidate attracted criticism for accusing Mr Obama of “palling around with terrorists”, citing his association with the sixties radical William Ayers. The attacks provoked a near lynch mob atmosphere at her rallies, with supporters yelling “terrorist” and “kill him” until the McCain campaign ordered her to tone down the rhetoric. But it has now emerged that her demagogic tone may have unintentionally encouraged white supremacists to go even further. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/sarah-palin/3405336/Sarah-Palin-blamed-by-the-US-Secret-Service-for-death-threats-against-Barack-Obama.html

What a joke,

VoiceofReason said:
Me too dickhead.

Nice.. Thank you for proving my point.

Our fearless President is speaking on the Arizona incident now. Sad that he didn’t give a shit about the Ft. Hood shooting. He only cares if he can score political points and having a muslim go off and kill innocent americans didn’t fit into his narrative. He is the worst this country had to offer. Shame on the media for making him president.

I’ll tell you what libs, I’ve asked repeatedely in the last 24 hours for proof of violent rhetoric from FOX, Beck, or Limbaugh and have heard nothing but crickets from your side. I will take that as, you got nothin!

beamangrow said:
Seeing 2012 From My Window says:January 10, 2011 at 1:30 pm Seeing 2012 From My Window(Quote)3 0Recent Left Wing Threats of Violence (Let’s Document Them)03/25/10 | Reaganesque Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:29:08 AM by Reaganesque Let’s document here the numerous death threats the Left has made against us and right-wing politicians. A few that come to my mind immediately: The movie “Death of a President” (2006) by British film makers Gabriel Range and Simon Finch Cindy Sheehan’s Book: “Peace Mom” in which she fantasizes about going back in time and killing the infant George W. Bush. Alec Baldwin’s suggestion on the David Letterman show that Henry Hyde and his family should be dragged into the street and stoned to death. Nicholson Baker’s ” Checkpoint,” a novella conversation between two people about the advisability of assassinating Bush. “Kill Bush” t-shirt on sale at CafePress. The constant vandalism of ALF and ELF. The movie, “The Last Supper,” starring Cameron Diaz and others where a group of young, hip Libs invite to Conservatives to diner to poison them under the rationale that they are preventing a future Hitler. At the end of the movie, they come to realize that killing is wrong so they spare their last Conservative who then goes on to be the next Hitler. Moral of the story, kill Conservatives if you have the chance. my comment would be so stupid i dont think there’s a point determining where to begin

Probably NOT sane says:
“GBR will bla bla bla.”

When this reactionary claims that I’m “obsessed,” he’s projecting. I don’t even have to make a comment on a post before this hole attacks me.

Hey Rocky Road, there wasn’t a moment of silence after the Ft. Hood shootings. Kind of makes you wonder how he decides who gets one. BTW, I think both tragedies warranted one.

Jayson said:
Nice.. Thank you for proving my point.

How did I prove your point…..your hat remains firmly in place……….

I was reading one of my favorite pseudo news sites earlier–The Huffington Post– when I came across a comment that states a new word has been created called “becking”. I thought I would share the comment since Mediaite periodically covers the origin of new words such as Sarah Palins “refudiate”.

Here’s a new word that should become mainstream as quickly as possible.

Now the shootings have created a new word floating across cyberspace­­: “becking.” To be “becked” is to be held up as such an evil and destructiv­­e person that someone, somewhere, will interpret it as a call to eliminate that problem through violence.

If Beck is tied to this word, it should sink his ship of propaganda and inciting of anger.

GlennBeckReview said:
Probably NOT sane says:“GBR will bla bla bla.” When this reactionary claims that I’m “obsessed,” he’s projecting. I don’t even have to make a comment on a post before this hole attacks me.

Look at me!!!!! got ya covered dude.

I am betting Voice of Reason is happier, yet.

An Idea said:
This nut has a hate-filled website he has had to hide since . Put it up again , Crazy Greg .

Dispute the facts, You Can’t. I never had a left wing web site, thank you very much. I have a youtube site. Its open to everyone. It’s all News Coverage. None of it is edited.

A endless list of account names said:
The movie “Death of a President” (2006) by British film makers Gabriel Range and Simon Finch

No…

GBR, can the world expect the “Bombshell” sometime before
the end of the current century>
An no, you are not being obsessed over. you are being laughed at!

Probably NOT wrong said:
I am betting Voice of Reason is happier, yet.

I am a happy guy. Just celebrated my birthday. Daughter is getting married. Son just got a promotion. Whole family is healthy and happy.

Doing pretty good.

gordonbloyershow says:
“The ONLY person responsible is the shooter. ”

Wrong again, Gordon. When the cops showed up at his (parent’s) home telling them that he needed mental health appraisal and consoling, THEY should have put him where he’ll likely spend the rest of his life, in a mental ward. They dropped the ball, and now 6 people are dead.

The three main differences between Beck and Jared Loughner is that one is a young loser and mentally deranged for real while the other one is a successful, middle-aged charlatan who only pretends to be crazy for the attention (and the wealth that craziness garners from gullible reactionaries). Both are a threat to human life. One’s in jail while the other one is still on the loose. The latter is considered vitriolic and dangerous.

Probably NOT wrong said:
GBR, can the world expect the “Bombshell” sometime beforethe end of the current century>An no, you are not being obsessed over. you are being laughed at!

I am really getting tired of waiting too.

cmdrgmh said:
Dispute the facts, You Can’t. I never had a left wing web site, thank you very much. I have a youtube site. Its open to everyone. It’s all News Coverage. None of it is edited.

Let’s see it , slacker .

Seeing 2012 From My Window says:
“I’ll tell you what libs, I’ve asked repeatedely in the last 24 hours for proof of violent rhetoric from FOX, Beck, or Limbaugh and have heard nothing but crickets from your side. I will take that as, you got nothin!”

I did answer this question; go back and look for the answer.

GlennBeckReview said:
gordonbloyershow says:“The ONLY person responsible is the shooter. ” Wrong again, Gordon. When the cops showed up at his (parent’s) home telling them that he needed mental health appraisal and consoling, THEY should have put him where he’ll likely spend the rest of his life, in a mental ward. They dropped the ball, and now 6 people are dead. The three main differences between Beck and Jared Loughner is that one is a young loser and mentally deranged for real while the other one is a successful, middle-aged charlatan who only pretends to be crazy for the attention (and the wealth that craziness garners from gullible reactionaries). Both are a threat to human life. One’s in jail while the other one is still on the loose. The latter is considered vitriolic and dangerous.

Waaaaaaa he’s more successful than me so I will make an ass out of myself by parroting Media ?Matters lies and so people will look at me I claim I have a big secret…..but I can’t tell.

Look at me!!!!!

You are on the loose too and waaaaay more of a danger to society in general than Beck ever could be.

You are a liar with a bias and an unreasonable hatred……kind of like this nutball.

GBR, you are just going to have to face the fact that people consider you a big joke.

VoiceofReason says:
“I am really getting tired of waiting too.”

That makes three of us. How many times do you reading-challenged reactionaries need to see the words, “it’s out of my control” before you understand that I’m waiting for the journalist to finish the story?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
I’ll tell you what libs, I’ve asked repeatedely in the last 24 hours for proof of violent rhetoric from FOX, Beck, or Limbaugh and have heard nothing but crickets from your side. I will take that as, you got nothin!

They’ve got whatever Arianna tells them to say. Most people can see right through them these days. This is a really tragic, but probably unpreventable thing. The guy’s a complete nutbag, and when you have a homicidal nut hellbent on killing, it’s going to happen. I’m sure that doesn’t make the family and friends of the victims feel any better about things, but the (on average) 115 people that will die today in auto accidents will leave behind family and friends, too. The difference is that they won’t have a sorry excuse for a local sheriff using their family tragedy to stir up hatred.

Seeing 2012, you won’t be laughing when that bombshell hits!

writer said:
Seeing 2012, you won’t be laughing when that bombshell hits!

LOL

Looks like the Palin brand is dropping:

http://www.businessinsider.com/sarah-palins-intrade-odds-dive-in-immediate-wake-of-arizona-tragedy-2011-1

Calvin said:
McVeigh was a left wing anarchist and an atheist. Conemned by the right. Unabomber was an eco left wing anarchist nut. Eric Rudolph was condemned by the right as was George Tiller. Nobody made those people do anything. It was their insanity that made them choose to do those things.

Let’s keep the facts straight “McVeigh’s only known political affiliations were his voter registration with the Republican Party of New York when he lived in Buffalo, New York, and a membership in the National Rifle Association while in the military.[83]” “McVeigh frequently quoted and alluded to the white supremacist novel The Turner Diaries” I would call him more of right wing nut job than a left. Go back through history most of the high probfile attacks were committed by right wing not jobs against left wing politicians for the exception of Reagan i.e. Lee Harvey Oswall, Sirhan Sirhan, James Earl Ray, John W Hickley, Timothy McVeigh all crazies that were politically driven. Doesn’t mean that there are not left wing nuts, but they don’t have the history of violance to the same degree.

Here is a classic example: Rush Limbaugh saying on his radio show “If Obama Had Not Been African-American, He Would Never Have Been Elected”. In the mind of a extreme racist this just fans the flames of the hatred they have already built up against this President. In the mind of a person who cannot seperate reality from their own distrubed believes this might be the fuse that cause this person to go off. What was the point of this comment? It just drives a stake in the heart of normal debate and discussion.

If there is a silver lining to this terrible act in Tucon I hope we learn to start thinking about what we say and become more accountable for what we say. This is not a sporting event where we want the home team to win. We need to go back to the basics where we can have open debate and compromise and not have a web site equipped with cross hairs of the opponents we need to take out.

Nacho said:
Palin has yet to publicly denounce the actions of this political assassin.

Really I was wondering that myself.Palin loves to be in the spotlight. Where is she?You betcha she is getting some phone calls.

Seeing 2012 From My Window says:
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Hey Rocky Road, there wasn’t a moment of silence after the Ft. Hood shootings. Kind of makes you wonder how he decides who gets one. BTW, I think both tragedies warranted one.
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The more you talk the deeper your head is up Palin’s a$$!

VoiceofReason said:
BTW, the SPLC is a left wing group that spends it time and effort falsely pointing to right wingers as racists and other sorts of malfeasence.

.. and is operated by a child molester.

“Actions can’t be placed on anyone’s doorstep. But if Governor Palin doesn’t want to be criticized then she should continue her commentary but dial back the anger,” – John Weaver, longtime Republican operative.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
proof of violent rhetoric from FOX, Beck, or Limbaugh and have heard nothing but crickets from your side

You prove to us that they have not.

Hey, Morris Dees has a ten million dollar estate. If that’s not fighting poverty, I don’t know what is.

ROCKSTEADY says:
Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
proof of violent rhetoric from FOX, Beck, or Limbaugh and have heard nothing but crickets from your side

You prove to us that they have not.

Man you’re dumb. The burden of proof is on the accuser in this country Box of Rox. Come on, just admit you have NO evidence.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Man you’re dumb. The burden of proof is on the accuser in this country Box of Rox. Come on, just admit you have NO evidence.

I love how the left throws BS out there, and then will tell you to prove it’s not true. Straight from the manual. Recently, we had the “foreign money buying right wing adds” that sheriff numbnuts has even referred to, but the funniest ever was Bush’s “November Surprise”, in which Ted “I can kill a chick and not get in trouble” Kennedy said that it needs to be investigated, without one shred of evidence whatsoever, because “the seriousness of the accusation” warranted an investigation.

VoiceofReason said:
A 9 year old child was killed and all you care about is blaming Palin….WTF is wrong with you?

Hey ASSHOLE, where did I blame Palin?

Your head is so far up her asshole you care more about protecting her political career than you do about innocent Americans.

You should be ashamed of yourself!!

FAUX outrage?? Have you no compassion?

mibwilso said:
_______________

Can you name the last time a left-wing person carried out a high profile attack? You’d have to go back to Ronald Reagan in the early 80’s at best.

Just within the last 15 years, you’ve had folks like Tim McVeigh, the Unabomber, Eric Rudolph, the George Tiller assassin, and now this.

The Unabomber was a lefty, a hard lefty.

And how would you characterize the perpetrator of the Fort Hood Massacre? Just a deluded individual, not motivated by any radical philosophy? He killed far more than Loughner.

Loughner was tracking, or maybe stalking, Congresswoman Giffords since 2007. At that time Sharon Angle and Sarah Palin were not on the radar.

All you right wingers need to be shot. I’m totally against violence. 2nd amendment remedies all the way. I hate war and violence, and I like puppies awwww. Seriously, someone take out all the right wingers. What, why are people saying I’m inciting violence???? You guys are so quick to politicize!!!!!!!!!! Why hasn’t anyone shot Michele Bachmann yet???!!! Violence is bad.

BatBoy said:
I was responding to the article. The question most of us have is what is wrong with you lefties. There is no clear reason for this tragedy. NONE! NADA! Nothing! And there won’t be for quite some time. Have some respect for the 9 year old girl and the others who were killed and injured that day. We have to find out what happened and why…thank GOD the police are going about this in a methodical manner. BUT that does not stop you HATERS of the LEFT! You try to fix blame when you don’t even know what the issue is. SO I ASK YOU…to use your words… “WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!” You don’t even have to answer that question because most of us know…unfortunately you don’t have a clue to what you do. Try to Wise Up, just once in your life.

It’s obvious that all you care about is scoring cheap political points…and could care less about the innocents who were murdered, which is why you run to the board to up/down vote those either pro/anti Palin.

Wise up?! You ARE SCUM!

A Democratic congresswoman, a Federal judge and a little girl all get murdered in cold blood…and all you care about is “how it looks in the media”.

sick, sick minds…no wonder incidents like this occur. Those who care more about mytical political stories than REAL people are they types that commit attrocities such as these.

I think the “Bombshell” is going to be
a “BOMB”
Wait a minute, let me think about that one
before I post! OOOPPPS!!!!

All about Glenn and Sarah. Nothing about the individuals that died. You who follow these people must feel proud!

GlennBeckReview said:
Probably NOT sane says:“GBR will bla bla bla.” When this reactionary claims that I’m “obsessed,” he’s projecting. I don’t even have to make a comment on a post before this hole attacks me.

And GBR (Bombshell) only mentions Glenn Beck when the article is about Beck.

Palin singles out Giffords as a “target” for attack, illustrated by cross-hairs in gun sights, and urges supporters to “reload”…….

Truth said:
Let’s keep the facts straight

Tim McVeigh was a leftist athiest. He grew completely disenchanted with US foreign policy during the first Gulf War. He was very militant in his hatred of Israel and US militarism. There was nothing right wing about him.

noekk said:
Palin singles out Giffords as a “target” for attack, illustrated by cross-hairs in gun sights, and urges supporters to “reload”…….

The district was one of many on a map. No ad ever had Giffords herself in the crosshairs, you’re simply embellishing for dramatic effect. It’s people like you who’re inciting rage, which is your purpose. It’s how liberals work.

Wisco said:
Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over death threats against Barack Obama The Republican vice presidential candidate attracted criticism for accusing Mr Obama of “palling around with terrorists”, citing his association with the sixties radical William Ayers. The attacks provoked a near lynch mob atmosphere at her rallies, with supporters yelling “terrorist” and “kill him” until the McCain campaign ordered her to tone down the rhetoric. But it has now emerged that her demagogic tone may have unintentionally encouraged white supremacists to go even further. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/sarah-palin/3405336/Sarah-Palin-blamed-by-the-US-Secret-Service-for-death-threats-against-Barack-Obama.html

That is your list? LOL Where is the incitement to violence? Where is the hate? YOU are a loon. You have a mental problem.

Mr.Papshmer said:
The district was one of many on a map. No ad ever had Giffords herself in the crosshairs, you’re simply embellishing for dramatic effect. It’s people like you who’re inciting rage, which is your purpose. It’s how liberals work.

Inciting “rage” isnt the same as inciting violent acts. If you want to talk about inciting feelings, FOX “news” is king of inciting fear, anger, resentment, panic, hatred toward political figures on a daily basis… we don’t agree with it but it’s their right. Telling people to pick up their guns is an entirely different matter.

But I shouldn’t talk to a guy who has an automatic rifle avatar about inciting violence.

Kathryn Scaglione said:
Are you kidding me????? Who the hell is feeling sorry for Sarah Palin?? She’s still alive. And NO there are NOT nut jobs on both sides. Just YOUR side Sarah Palin. Your side. YOU. YOU are the one who posted a map with crosshairs targeting actual human beings. YOU are telling people to RELOAD. YOU, Sarah Palin, are enticing this. YOU are. Why don’t you QUIT being in public, like you QUIT being a Governor. People may not die if YOU just RETREAT.

Loon

GlennBeckReview said:
Probably NOT sane says:“GBR will bla bla bla.” When this reactionary claims that I’m “obsessed,” he’s projecting. I don’t even have to make a comment on a post before this hole attacks me.

The reason people attack you immediatly is because you are like the shooter, you have a mental problem. Everyone here wants to alert the public that you are deranged so they can be on the look out. The problem with the shooter was that people didn’t let others know what kind of nut he was.
Everyone needs to know about YOU.

GlennBeckReview said:
“Probably NOT sane says:“GBR will bla bla bla.” When this reactionary claims that I’m “obsessed,” he’s projecting. I don’t even have to make a comment on a post before this hole attacks me.”

And writing of reactionary holes, StupidAlec says:
“And GBR (Bombshell) only mentions Glenn Beck when the article is about Beck.”

a) I never wrote that and
b) this story IS about Beck’s nervousness about being attached to this despicable act. I have not posted anything linking Beck to this story because I don’t have biased assimilation. I read the killer’s youtube postings and could not connect them to Beck’s violence inciting and hateful rhetoric or dumb conspiracy theories.

Jon wrote that Beck “suggested she contact the security firm he uses because ‘an attempt on [Palin] could bring the Republic down.’ ” I’ve never called Beck delusional … until now. Suddenly Beck perversely “thinks” that half-term Gov. Palin is a pillar to our Republic. I try to argue that Beck is not a moron, but these are trying times, or more precisely, trying lines.

A has-been and a may-be is in fact a nobody, Constitutionally writing. What insanity will Beck spout next? If a bullet goes through and through Beck’s skull, it would be the end of civil discourse in America? If that sounds insane, it is. Sadly Beck says things that are “completely insane” like that too often. Doubt that? Ask Byron Williams who was going to start a revolution in Beck’s name.

We can only hope that Beck’s concern for his own safety will compel him to tap down his violent and vitriolic rhetoric.

GlennBeckReview said:
Wrong again, Gordon. When the cops showed up at his (parent’s) home telling them that he needed mental health appraisal and consoling, THEY should have put him where he’ll likely spend the rest of his life, in a mental ward. They dropped the ball, and now 6 people are dead.

I have proved before that YOU know nothing about the law. It is almost impossible to put a nut like this in the looney bin until he acts. There have been numerous legal experts this weekend talking about this but YOU somehow missed it.
That is why we can’t put you in the looney bin, everyone knows you should be there but we can’t do anything about it except to warn people about you.

The only way to stop Beck’s hateful rhetoric is with hateful rhetoric towards Beck.

GlennBeckReview said:
We can only hope that Beck’s concern for his own safety will compel him to tap down his violent and vitriolic rhetoric.

YOU are INSANE. Anyone that knows this clown, warn as many people as you can. He is still delusional about that “bombshell”.

A narcisist(Palin and someone with antipersonality disorder (Limbaugh would not take any responsibility for their words and actions.She even mentioned Allah having a message of Hate which is not in his teachings at all. She probably never read the Koran so how would she know.
They have been warned by the public that their words would be taken seriously one day by someone who was less then stable and still they continued with threatening words of hatred, revolution, “killing off the Democrats, etc. These are words that have been heard on video. They can’t say they didn’t say them. Some of these crazies think that Sara Palins wink is a sign to carry out her with the actions in her words. Look what happened with the near Koran book burning. Why do you think that situation occurred in the first place. It was because of the message being given by these people and from Fox News. Until they get it there is no hope for them.

I ma sick of hearing their messages of hatred towards people they have never had any dealings with and are reacting to what they have been told to believe is trrue when in fact it is not.

At least now I hope Palin, Beck and Limbaugh are only worried about their careers ot the lack of in the near future. I would love to see them on the unemployment line.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Hey mibwilso, remember the professor who shot up the place last year? Big lib!

Also, the guy who flew the plane into a building in Houston. He loved the Communist Manifesto.

And James Von Brunn was the shooter at a Jewish kindergarden. He hated O’Rielly, Hannity and Beck/

If Palin would stop winking, there would be no such thing as mass murderers. Palin may not have winked at Jack the Ripper, but he probably thought that she did.

LeviCoult said:
Inciting “rage” isnt the same as inciting violent acts.

Of course it is, don’t hide behind semantics.

LeviCoult said:
But I shouldn’t talk to a guy who has an automatic rifle avatar about inciting violence.

It’s a match rifle, and it’s not an automatic. Some of us have hobbies.

dsriley said:
At least now I hope Palin, Beck and Limbaugh are only worried about their careers ot the lack of in the near future. I would love to see them on the unemployment line.

Everybody is worried about that, since it’s Obama’s desire to bring America to her knees. Thamkfully and hopefully, the Nov. 2nd elections results will prevent that. KUDOS to Sarah Palin for helping us SAVE our country.

GlennBeckReview said:
We can only hope that Beck’s concern for his own safety will compel him to tap down his violent and vitriolic rhetoric.

I’m guessing a large portion of the million dollars he spends a year on protection is because of you GBR. Give it a rest.

juan said:
Also, the guy who flew the plane into a building in Houston. He loved the Communist Manifesto.

And James Von Brunn was the shooter at a Jewish kindergarden. He hated O’Rielly, Hannity and Beck/

Don’t confuse the lefties with reality, Juan. In fact, most of them don’t even care one little bit about the people who were killed, they simply see a political opportunity, that much became clear very quickly.

Truth said:
Let’s keep the facts straight…
Go back through history most of the high probfile attacks were committed by right wing not jobs against left wing politicians for the exception of Reagan i.e. Lee Harvey Oswall, Sirhan Sirhan, James Earl Ray, John W Hickley, Timothy McVeigh all crazies that were politically driven. Doesn’t mean that there are not left wing nuts, but they don’t have the history of violance to the same degree.

Was Sirhan Sirhan a right-wing nut job? He was a Palestinian who had witnessed violence in the fight with Israel directly, including the shooting of his own brother, correct?

Oswald’s story is absolutely amazing and baffling. Hard to make any sense out of that. Arguments rage about him being a radical leftist, and conspiracy theories rage about his being a right-wing hit man. But to list him in your primary evidence bullet points (pun stumbled into but I kinda like it) seems like assigning certainty when we’re not even close to it.

With that, your list is down to McVeigh and James Earl Ray, and the stats are about even if you start doling out probabilties of who was “right wing” versus “left wing.”

Which brings me to my larger point. The attempts by people to staple “right-wing” or “left-wing” to many things are based far more in political opportunism than in Truth. Or was that, Pravda?

On first reading, I thought that for once in her life, Sarah Palin had said something that didn’t whinily/snottily portray herself as the main victim.

On second reading?

As you were, Sarah. You’ll never change.

Enough is enough. Conservatives, rightwingers, Libertarians, Republicans – whatever you call yourselves…I suggest you go online to the New York Times and look at today’s (Mon) Paul Krugman column and, equally important, read some of the comments. For sure, the gunman is a sicko, but the back drop for what’s going on is primarily from the right side, and spin from Beck and Palin is not going to exonerate them from their responsibility in fanning the fires of hate. Right now we’re in a moment of decision. Are you really supportive of our country, real patriots as you say you are, or are you going to remain in denial about what’s going on? I feel the full weight of the vast majority of people in this country is going to come down on you very shortly. You’ve been playing with fire and now is the time to get real before we descend into more violence and chaos. There’s something wrong with the values you espouse, especially if it causes you to not see what’s going on. It’s past time to wake up!

ganymede said:
You’ve been playing with fire and now is the time to get real before we descend into more violence and chaos.

Watch out, the bogey man’s going to git ya!

The Democrats first started the MAP Targeting Candidates in 2004:

The heartland strategy begins by choosing likely targets for Democratic gains. Let’s go to the map:

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253055&kaid=127&subid=171

ganymede said:
Enough is enough. Conservatives, rightwingers, Libertarians, Republicans – whatever you call yourselves…

We all look alike to you I guess?

Curious what you say when people call you a socialist.

Regards,

MC, libertarian

Tom Patterson said:
Apparently Gordon Bloyer knows for a fact that the shooter lived in a bubble and the heated rhetoric of the right never reached his thick skull. Gordo also says “IT HAS ALREADY PASSED” Hey buddy, The cross hairs map, Giffords video with concerns that it would lead to bad things etc. will be FOREVER paired with Sarah Palin. RUN SARAH RUN!!!!!!

You need a doctor. You are already dreaming delusional nonsense. It is the comments like yours above that indicate that you have a mental problem and should be watched.

Laurie said:
On first reading, I thought that for once in her life, Sarah Palin had said something that didn’t whinily/snottily portray herself as the main victim. On second reading? As you were, Sarah. You’ll never change.

Meow.

Jealous much?

When will Mediaite report about Obama’s rhetoric:

Doug Ross says:
January 9, 2011 at 3:20 pm Doug Ross(Quote)
7 3
I say we blame the man who incessantly uses violent rhetoric to advance his political cause.

– “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
– “Get in Their Faces!”
– “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
– “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
– “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
– Opposition victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
– “It’s time to Fight for it.”
– “Punish your enemies.”
– “I’m itching for a fight.”

Oh, wait. Those quotes were all uttered by our beloved President.

Never mind.

Commented @http://www.mediaite.com/print/krugman-olbermann-and-the-race-to-explain-the-unexplainable/

skyfet said:
Still calling people Cowards? A draft dodger should be the last one calling people Cowards.
Capiche?

LOL, why don’t you PROVE that I am a draft dodger? LOL Can’t be done idiot, I enlisted what did you do?

Calvin said:
Tim McVeigh was a leftist athiest. He grew completely disenchanted with US foreign policy during the first Gulf War. He was very militant in his hatred of Israel and US militarism. There was nothing right wing about him.

I only state the facts. Because he was athiest doesn’t make him a leftest. To the contrary their nothing you described that points him to being a leftest. He and Terry Nichols views by the definition wouldn’t be considered leftest. However if you have a reference to the contrary I would like to read it.

You’d have to have the IQ of swamp-gas, to draw a correlation between S.Palin’s cross-hair, emblematic demonstration of who should be voted out of office, and someone actually shooting someone. This lunatic didn’t shoot these people because of some hunting jargon, he shot them because, in his troubled mind they represented everything he was against. He could not make the distinction between political rhetoric and reality.
I’ve noticed allot of people of this blog choose to ignore that fact and continue to regurgitate hate speech against S.Palin. They seem not to be able to make the distinction either! I hope to hell you wacko’s aren’t sick enough to hurt someone!! Tell me just what the difference is between your political vitriol and the political vitriol that supposedly was the catalyst for this clown to shoot people?!

Time to grow some balls of your own Palin and admit you’re a pathetic human being

What’s the deal with Beckerhead saying the young girl’s death was preordained? Just more heresy from Beckerhead?

ha!!@StopBeck: Glenn Beck might wanna turn off random image generator on his site for topics like this: http://twitpic.com/3ovsm9

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010/

Strident Right = Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck
Strident Left = Olberman, Maddow, “Ed”
Right = O’Reilly
Left = Matthews
Center Right = Scarborough
Center Left = (doesn’t exist)

gordonbloyershow said:
LOL, why don’t you PROVE that I am a draft dodger? LOL Can’t be done idiot, I enlisted what did you do?

Odd you don’t put that in the “About Me” section in the Basil Marceaux, I mean Gordon Blower webpage. You mention every time you have scratched yourself, it would seem.

But, hey, what about the Bugman getting a 3 year sentence?

Joepalooka said:
Center Left = (doesn’t exist)

Harold Ford.

gordontheblowhardwithashow says:
“I have proved before that YOU know nothing about the law.:

That ONLY thing you’ve proven time and time again is that you’re a “no-nothing” who ignorantly attacks people you don’t agree with. I have shown that I’m not the only one who thinks that you’re a disgusting and sorry excuse for a human being. Again, I point out that:

Andrew K said on:
December 16, 2010 at 8:32 am (Quote)

“…I’m a big fan of what Abrams et al. are doing here, I just haven’t really been motivated to join the fray below the articles until now.

See, as a member of the generation that saw the advent of the internet in our formidable years I’m aware of the qualities of comment sections, chats, and forums. I know that for the most part they’ve been a place where people allow themselves the freedom to be total assholes to complete strangers. Because of this I’ve avoided registering or commenting on much (I hardly leave a peep on YouTube videos, because, frankly, I don’t need an email each time some illiterate 14 year-old calls me a fag for liking Paul McCartney’s solo work.).

But you know what Gordie? The comments are here, and often times the word count and sheer amount of information in comments section is much higher than that of even the OP’s article. There are actually a few interesting people around here that seem to understand media criticism, and Gord, you aren’t one of them.

… but man are you prolific. I’m willing to bet that you are one of the top commenters here on Mediaite, if we are talking sheer number of posts; and to be totally honest with you, it is ruining the site for me.

You are intentionally confrontational from the word go, you have no constructive input to offer. You seek out those who have an opinion you feel is in conflict with yours and belittle them and call them names. Your retorts are weak and often involve a regurgitation of what ever “kick” you are on (my bet is I’m not the only one you are calling “stupid” this morning.). When the tone moves to substantive debate that involves doing more than calling people names you rely on your extensive experience that includes a website you haven’t updated since 2008 and the fact that you accidently rubbed William F. Buckley’s junk through his pants on a bus once or something like that.

There is nothing positive in what you do Gordo. Not for people you are arguing with and not for the arguments themselves.
You bring nothing to the table Gord-a-lord-a-ding-dang. The broad generalizations you spit are not just stupid but border on offensive, and before you go calling me some sort of touchy-feelie “liberal” just remember that generalizations are not the kind of thing an individualist should be comfortable making because they remove a person’s sense of singularity. It has nothing to do with peoples feelings it has everything to do with respecting the humanity of your neighbor.

So Gord, do everyone a favor and saddle up your half-sack and get real. Talk about the issues in a way that actually conveys a point and maybe we’ll not just understand what it is you stand for but also accept it as valid. Hell, you might get someone to think outside their own narrow little box.

I guess, in your own way, by contributing to the status quo of comment thread filth and nastiness, you’ve inspired me to try to improve this entire situation.”

Filth and nastiness, Gordon; that’s what you bring to these pages. Nothing more.

Gordon, you are scum, and that’s being nice about your vitriolic manner.

Sarah Palin is NRA’s poster girl for Cowards With Guns. http://wp.me/pCuKg-3E

ititiiti said:
Sarah Palin is NRA’s poster girl for Cowards With Guns.

Yes, and thank you for adding that dose of intelligence to the conversation. What would we ever do without little lefty marionettes dancing to the tune of whatever proggie’s pumping out the talking points that day?

CAconservative said:
You’d have to have the IQ of swamp-gas, to draw a correlation between S.Palin’s cross-hair, emblematic demonstration of who should be voted out of office, and someone actually shooting someone. This lunatic didn’t shoot these people because of some hunting jargon, he shot them because, in his troubled mind they represented everything he was against. He could not make the distinction between political rhetoric and reality.I’ve noticed allot of people of this blog choose to ignore that fact and continue to regurgitate hate speech against S.Palin. They seem not to be able to make the distinction either! I hope to hell you wacko’s aren’t sick enough to hurt someone!! Tell me just what the difference is between your political vitriol and the political vitriol that supposedly was the catalyst for this clown to shoot people?!

You maybe missing the point of some of the comments, I can’t speak for all. The analogies such as reload and cross hairs on a web site for a normal person may seem innocent, but to a twisted wacko that maybe a signal to perform an act. Especially coming from a high profile person. This guy in Tucson did not wakeup one morning and decide to commit this awful act. He was driven to this through many years of abnormal behavor. Reinforcement of some of his sick believes can be achieved through hate sites, talk show extremeist, overwhelming disagreement of his believes from society. The point being made is there are probably others out there and as long there is so much disagreement and hate talk this could send others over the top. The naivety of human behavior by people in the spotlight is sometime unbelieveable. There are better ways to get the point across that are less hateful and violent sounding. So why not chose that path. Why can’t we at least agree to disagree? Instead of the mud slinging that goes on. If we can avoid another of these types incidents by acting like normal people then we have been successful.

GBR! What do you really think about Gordo?

Kathryn Scaglione said:
Are you kidding me????? Who the hell is feeling sorry for Sarah Palin?? She’s still alive. And NO there are NOT nut jobs on both sides. Just YOUR side Sarah Palin. Your side. YOU. YOU are the one who posted a map with crosshairs targeting actual human beings. YOU are telling people to RELOAD. YOU, Sarah Palin, are enticing this. YOU are. Why don’t you QUIT being in public, like you QUIT being a Governor. People may not die if YOU just RETREAT.

OMG You sound like a 20 something year old with a teen mind that doesn’t know anything. You think you know. One day when you leave the dark side and grow up maybe there will be help for you! We can only hope. Oh wait, you voted for hope and change and guess what……it’s not working.

ganymede said:
Enough is enough. Conservatives, rightwingers, Libertarians, Republicans – whatever you call yourselves…I suggest you go online to the New York Times and look at today’s (Mon) Paul Krugman column and, equally important, read some of the comments. For sure, the gunman is a sicko, but the back drop for what’s going on is primarily from the right side, and spin from Beck and Palin is not going to exonerate them from their responsibility in fanning the fires of hate. Right now we’re in a moment of decision. Are you really supportive of our country, real patriots as you say you are, or are you going to remain in denial about what’s going on? I feel the full weight of the vast majority of people in this country is going to come down on you very shortly. You’ve been playing with fire and now is the time to get real before we descend into more violence and chaos. There’s something wrong with the values you espouse, especially if it causes you to not see what’s going on. It’s past time to wake up!

Oh I guess Chris Matthews, Ed Schultz, Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, Combs, and on and on has nothing to do with this??? Not to mention the lame stream media and oh lets not forget our own president. Yes ….. it is time to wake up but the side that needs to wake up is the liberals. Socialist are bringing us down, or trying to but I am praying the hope and change Obama is trying to do to this country will be gone in 2012!!!!!

We cannot walk on rhetorical eggshells because we’re afraid of how it might affect the mentally unstable. I looked at Palin’s page and it was very obviously a political metaphor for the next election.

I do think that creating an atmosphere of division, anger and blame, is not healthy for our society and that seems to be what we’ve been doing for quite a while now. People on both sides make a great living fanning the fires of division and anger. Maybe we can stop enriching them.

skyfet said:
Still calling people Cowards? A draft dodger should be the last one calling people Cowards.
Capiche?

Coward!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
The movie, “The Last Supper,”

Love that movie!

So this con artist sends a an email out of the goodness of his heart to Palin and then reads it on the radio the follow morning; nothing self serving there. Smells like Glen Beck.

Just_MC said:
Was Sirhan Sirhan a right-wing nut job? He was a Palestinian who had witnessed violence in the fight with Israel directly, including the shooting of his own brother, correct? Oswald’s story is absolutely amazing and baffling. Hard to make any sense out of that. Arguments rage about him being a radical leftist, and conspiracy theories rage about his being a right-wing hit man. But to list him in your primary evidence bullet points (pun stumbled into but I kinda like it) seems like assigning certainty when we’re not even close to it. With that, your list is down to McVeigh and James Earl Ray, and the stats are about even if you start doling out probabilties of who was “right wing” versus “left wing.” Which brings me to my larger point. The attempts by people to staple “right-wing” or “left-wing” to many things are based far more in political opportunism than in Truth. Or was that, Pravda?

We could point and counter point the examples, but I think we can agree there are wackos on the left and right. The point I am trying to make however do politicans, high profile people, and the media fan the flames of some these wacko with their analogies, hate talk, and over all unnecessary rhetortic. What happen to our ability to debate without character undermining? Has this country reduced itself to a level where it cannot hold a normal conversation or debate anymore?

– July 2008: A gunman named Jim David Adkisson, agitated at how “liberals” are “destroying America,” walks into a Unitarian Church and opens fire, killing two churchgoers and wounding four others.

– October 2008: Two neo-Nazis are arrested in Tennessee in a plot to murder dozens of African-Americans, culminating in the assassination of President Obama.

– December 2008: A pair of “Patriot” movement radicals — the father-son team of Bruce and Joshua Turnidge, who wanted “to attack the political infrastructure” — threaten a bank in Woodburn, Oregon, with a bomb in the hopes of extorting money that would end their financial difficulties, for which they blamed the government. Instead, the bomb goes off and kills two police officers. The men eventually are convicted and sentenced to death for the crime.

– December 2008: In Belfast, Maine, police discover the makings of a nuclear “dirty bomb” in the basement of a white supremacist shot dead by his wife. The man, who was independently wealthy, reportedly was agitated about the election of President Obama and was crafting a plan to set off the bomb.

– January 2009: A white supremacist named Keith Luke embarks on a killing rampage in Brockton, Mass., raping and wounding a black woman and killing her sister, then killing a homeless man before being captured by police as he is en route to a Jewish community center.

– February 2009: A Marine named Kody Brittingham is arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate President Obama. Brittingham also collected white-supremacist material.

– April 2009: A white supremacist named Richard Poplawski opens fire on three Pittsburgh police officers who come to his house on a domestic-violence call and kills all three, because he believed President Obama intended to take away the guns of white citizens like himself. Poplawski is currently awaiting trial.

– April 2009: Another gunman in Okaloosa County, Florida, similarly fearful of Obama’s purported gun-grabbing plans, kills two deputies when they come to arrest him in a domestic-violence matter, then is killed himself in a shootout with police.

– May 2009: A “sovereign citizen” named Scott Roeder walks into a church in Wichita, Kansas, and assassinates abortion provider Dr. George Tiller.

– June 2009: A Holocaust denier and right-wing tax protester named James Von Brunn opens fire at the Holocaust Museum, killing a security guard.

– February 2010: An angry tax protester named Joseph Ray Stack flies an airplane into the building housing IRS offices in Austin, Texas. (Media are reluctant to label this one “domestic terrorism” too.)

– March 2010: Seven militiamen from the Hutaree Militia in Michigan and Ohio are arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate local police officers with the intent of sparking a new civil war.

– March 2010: An anti-government extremist named John Patrick Bedell walks into the Pentagon and opens fire, wounding two officers before he is himself shot dead.

– May 2010: A “sovereign citizen” from Georgia is arrested in Tennessee and charged with plotting the violent takeover of a local county courthouse.

– May 2010: A still-unidentified white man walks into a Jacksonville, Fla., mosque and sets it afire, simultaneously setting off a pipe bomb.

– May 2010: Two “sovereign citizens” named Jerry and Joe Kane gun down two police officers who pull them over for a traffic violation, and then wound two more officers in a shootout in which both of them are eventually killed.

– July 2010: An agitated right-winger and convict named Byron Williams loads up on weapons and drives to the Bay Area intent on attacking the offices of the Tides Foundation and the ACLU, but is intercepted by state patrolmen and engages them in a shootout and armed standoff in which two officers and Williams are wounded.

– September 2010: A Concord, N.C., man is arrested and charged with plotting to blow up a North Carolina abortion clinic. The man, 26-year–old Justin Carl Moose, referred to himself as the “Christian counterpart to (Osama) bin Laden” in a taped undercover meeting with a federal informant.

GlennBeckReview said:
GlennBeckReview said:“Probably NOT sane says:“GBR will bla bla bla.” When this reactionary claims that I’m “obsessed,” he’s projecting. I don’t even have to make a comment on a post before this hole attacks me.” And writing of reactionary holes, StupidAlec says:“And GBR (Bombshell) only mentions Glenn Beck when the article is about Beck.” a) I never wrote that andb) this story IS about Beck’s nervousness about being attached to this despicable act. I have not posted anything linking Beck to this story because I don’t have biased assimilation. I read the killer’s youtube postings and could not connect them to Beck’s violence inciting and hateful rhetoric or dumb conspiracy theories. Jon wrote that Beck “suggested she contact the security firm he uses because ‘an attempt on [Palin] could bring the Republic down.’ ” I’ve never called Beck delusional … until now. Suddenly Beck perversely “thinks” that half-term Gov. Palin is a pillar to our Republic. I try to argue that Beck is not a moron, but these are trying times, or more precisely, trying lines. A has-been and a may-be is in fact a nobody, Constitutionally writing. What insanity will Beck spout next? If a bullet goes through and through Beck’s skull, it would be the end of civil discourse in America? If that sounds insane, it is. Sadly Beck says things that are “completely insane” like that too often. Doubt that? Ask Byron Williams who was going to start a revolution in Beck’s name. We can only hope that Beck’s concern for his own safety will compel him to tap down his violent and vitriolic rhetoric.

You sir is the one who is SICK!! You seem to have an obsession and hate with Beck. If something happens to Beck then I would say someone needs to come looking for You!
Filth and nastiness G.B.R.; that’s what you bring to these pages. Nothing more.
G.B.R., you are scum, and that’s being nice about your vitriolic manner. These are your words you wrote about someone else but I believe this is you!So G.B.R, do everyone a favor and saddle up your half-sack and get real. Talk about the issues in a way that actually conveys a point and maybe we’ll not just understand what it is you stand for but also accept it as valid. Hell, you might get someone to think outside their own narrow little box.

ROCKSTEADY said:
You prove to us that they have not.

Typical lib tactic-you make the charge and then and instead of offering proof something happened, you expect us to prove something didn’t happen. A**hole!

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/235927/GLENN-BECK.jpg

gordonbloyershow said:
LOL, why don’t you PROVE that I am a draft dodger? LOL Can’t be done idiot, I enlisted what did you do?

Gordon- You need to man up and tell the truth; stop hiding behind Limbaugh’s sports bra

LeviCoult said:
But I shouldn’t talk to a guy who has an automatic rifle avatar about inciting violence.

Hey, you are not as dumb as you look.

Truth said:
We could point and counter point the examples, but I think we can agree there are wackos on the left and right. The point I am trying to make however do politicans, high profile people, and the media fan the flames of some these wacko with their analogies, hate talk, and over all unnecessary rhetortic. What happen to our ability to debate without character undermining? Has this country reduced itself to a level where it cannot hold a normal conversation or debate anymore?

Right on and well said.

ganymede said:
Paul Krugman column and, equally important, read some of the comments.

Krugman is an idiot and most economists would agree with me on that.

SpineCrusher said:
A 9 year old child was shot and killed and ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS PALIN!! WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!

Yes, it is so sad that amid such a tragedy as this, there are those wackos who have to use this to blame those they hate. The HATE of the Left is no different than the gunman who shot a child.

TRUTH:

I agree with your assessment. There are more benign ways of having a dialectic argument but, there are those out there that make a living out of political vitriol, on both sides, and as long as we have free speech in this country we can fully expect this type of sick behavior to continue.
What I find disturbing is the number of people who jumped on this tragedy trying to spin it into something it isn’t. This was perpetrated by a very sick and disturbed man incapable of discerning between reality and rhetoric, and nothing more.

SarahP. said:
Gordon- You need to man up and tell the truth; stop hiding behind Limbaugh’s sports bra

Who’s bra are you hiding behind??? Olbermann…..Maddow maybe??

Truth said:
We could point and counter point the examples, but I think we can agree there are wackos on the left and right. The point I am trying to make however do politicans, high profile people, and the media fan the flames of some these wacko with their analogies, hate talk, and over all unnecessary rhetortic. What happen to our ability to debate without character undermining? Has this country reduced itself to a level where it cannot hold a normal conversation or debate anymore?

Agreed. My only disagreement was with the notion that it was very one-sided. Further, I think the labels of “left and right”, “liberal” and “conservative”, “democrat” and “republican” are very misleading and serve the crooks in power, keeping us split in this binary nonense world.

The political spectrum that matters runs from POLICE STATE to INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY. Both Team D and the establishment of Team R are STATIST. Every day they move for more and more government power, and seize more liberty. Communist Russia and Nazi Germany were not polar opposites. They were both POLICE STATES, that totally subjegated the individual and his property to state control. Likewise, the Democrats and Republicans, while opposite in some rhetoric, are very similar in what they DO.

If we want to make anything better, we need people who have historically voted for Team D and people who have historically voted for Team R to watch more closely, tell the crooks to F OFF, and vote for LIBERTY CANDIDATES.

After so much gibberish from Sara Palin, even if she didn’t intend for this to happen she sure as hell set her SIGHTS on the bulls eye. And a nut case finally followed through, what a coincidence.. GO FIGURE. These NRA followers and avid sport animal killers fall in the same category of a certain segment of the population who will vote for an egg, so long as the egg is white.

These people are the ones responsible for placing GOP back in control to further wreak havoc on the citizens and place power and control back to the corporations. They want small government so the corporations can issue slave wages and curb benefits. And many of these citizens don’t fall into the middle and lower middle class. Their mindset over clouds their judgement and now Sara Palin is a prime example.

Inciting insurrection.
Glenn Beck’s contribution to society.
He is the lunatic’s messiah and his calls for peace ring hollow.

Did these folks NOT hear Jon Stewart’s message?
“Bring it down a notch.”
These deaths are a direct result of an hysterical, profit driven media.

CAconservative said:
TRUTH:

I agree with your assessment. There are more benign ways of having a dialectic argument but, there are those out there that make a living out of political vitriol, on both sides, and as long as we have free speech in this country we can fully expect this type of sick behavior to continue.
What I find disturbing is the number of people who jumped on this tragedy trying to spin it into something it isn’t. This was perpetrated by a very sick and disturbed man incapable of discerning between reality and rhetoric, and nothing more.

Many of the media’s junkies can no longer determine reality.
And why should they, it contradicts the messages portrayed on the 24/7 “news” outlets.
Whose message is “Only WE can bring you a fair and balanced OPINION.”

Cognitive dissonance does not play well with simple minded extremists.

I just want to say I hate this… That little Girl getting killed just breaks by heart. And I sincerely hope that Gabrielle Gifford lives and is able to serve her term at some point.

Now, there is talk right now that this guy was a left-wing nut job not a right nut job. From what I can tell he was all over the map.

I’m mean 3 of his favorite books were Mein Kampf, Fahrenheit 451 and The Communist Manifesto.

I will hold my judgement until later but some people on the left will be eating some crow if this turn out to be true. But I will not blame the left or the right just the crazy guy and the devil.

And by the way, GBR, Glenn has NEVER advocated violence in anyway. As a matter of fact he has STRONGLY ask his viewers/fans not to do so. And there is no evidence that this guy even listened to talk radio or any politics from TV or radio.

the Crazy guy’s favorite book list…
Books:
I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver’s Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/01/shooter-jarod-laughner/

Liberty_Hound says:
“And by the way, GBR, Glenn has NEVER advocated violence in anyway. As a matter of fact he has STRONGLY ask his viewers/fans not to do so.”

Beck is a paradox on violence. You’re right, he advocates peace domestically while using violent and vitriolic rhetoric. I argue that he is forced to tell his followers what to do (one of his favorite controls he likes you wield), namely sign a pledge of nonviolence, because his rhetoric is so violent sounding.

No, he doesn’t advocate violence: he’s claiming that people like me and people I remember from graduate school from are about to violently attack. He’s LOUD that way…and, of course, deceitful.

GlennBeckReview said:
Liberty_Hound says:
“And by the way, GBR, Glenn has NEVER advocated violence in anyway. As a matter of fact he has STRONGLY ask his viewers/fans not to do so.”

Beck is a paradox on violence. You’re right, he advocates peace domestically while using violent and vitriolic rhetoric. I argue that he is forced to tell his followers what to do (one of his favorite controls he likes you wield), namely sign a pledge of nonviolence, because his rhetoric is so violent sounding.

No, he doesn’t advocate violence: he’s claiming that people like me and people I remember from graduate school from are about to violently attack. He’s LOUD that way…and, of course, deceitful.

GBR.. You hear what you want to hear!… I have never felt in the slightest way to act on what Glenn says violently. Even if he did or didn’t ask his viewers not to. Glenn does come across mad at times. I’m mad as well at times and at times sad and at times hopeful. And I bet you have these emotions at time also. Maybe for different reasons but that doesn’t mean I or you are going to commit violence.

I nor Glenn wants anyone hurt. We all have a right to our emotions but none of us has the right to inflict bodily harm on anyone unless you are defending yourself or someone else.

The left defines hate speech as speech they do not agree with.. .. They “hate speech” they disagree with. That’s what the left is trying to silence.

You seem a little obsessed with Glenn. If some harm came to him would it be right to point fingers at you?
What if that person was a member of your website? Would it be right to blame you even more? Would you then feel in part responsible? Would you be glad if someone hurt Glenn in a violent way?

Do you even come close to seeing what in mean. There is no one here to blame except the guy himself.

And so far as I know there is no evidence that this guy is a right wing nut job or a left wing nut job just a nut job.
You playing the “don’t let a good crisis go the waste” game the left loves to play and that’s all you are doing.

“I have never felt in the slightest way to act on what Glenn says violently. ”

How is that relevant? Every individual is different. There are those who are especially susceptible to dog whistles; to deny that is to be deeply dishonest and there is much empirical evidence to support the contention that HATE radio laced with firearms and homicide innuendo yields results of the same nature.

Two recent examples:

Byron Williams: Williams later told investigators that he had wanted to “start a revolution” by “killing people of importance at the Tides Foundation and the ACLU,” a police affidavit stated. “There is no doubt” that Williams was on his way to commit a serious crime against an individual or a group, based on his body armor and an “excessive amount of ammunition,” a highway patrol sergeant added.

Glenn Beck has elevated the Tides Foundation stature from obscure to famous.

Jim David Adkisson: On July 27, 2008, a politically motivated[2][3] fatal shooting took place at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee, United States. Motivated by a desire to kill liberals and Democrats, gunman Jim David Adkisson fired a shotgun at members of the congregation during a youth performance of a musical, killing two people and wounding seven others.

The following books were found in Adkisson’s home during a police search:[10]
Liberalism is a Mental Disorder by radio talk show host Michael Savage
Let Freedom Ring: Winning the War of Liberty over Liberalism by talk show host Sean Hannity
The O’Reilly Factor: The Good, the Bad, and the Completely Ridiculous in American Life by television talk show host Bill O’Reilly

There are several more high profile examples of this. Tiller Tiller Baby Killer. I am not a statistician but I can tell you this has tipped past the possibility of coincidence.

homie said:
“I have never felt in the slightest way to act on what Glenn says violently. ”

How is that relevant? Every individual is different. There are those who are especially susceptible to dog whistles; to deny that is to be deeply dishonest and there is much empirical evidence to support the contention that HATE radio laced with firearms and homicide innuendo yields results of the same nature.

Two recent examples:

Byron Williams: Williams later told investigators that he had wanted to “start a revolution” by “killing people of importance at the Tides Foundation and the ACLU,” a police affidavit stated. “There is no doubt” that Williams was on his way to commit a serious crime against an individual or a group, based on his body armor and an “excessive amount of ammunition,” a highway patrol sergeant added.

Glenn Beck has elevated the Tides Foundation stature from obscure to famous.

Jim David Adkisson: On July 27, 2008, a politically motivated[2][3] fatal shooting took place at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee, United States. Motivated by a desire to kill liberals and Democrats, gunman Jim David Adkisson fired a shotgun at members of the congregation during a youth performance of a musical, killing two people and wounding seven others.

The following books were found in Adkisson’s home during a police search:[10]
Liberalism is a Mental Disorder by radio talk show host Michael Savage
Let Freedom Ring: Winning the War of Liberty over Liberalism by talk show host Sean Hannity
The O’Reilly Factor: The Good, the Bad, and the Completely Ridiculous in American Life by television talk show host Bill O’Reilly

There are several more high profile examples of this. Tiller Tiller Baby Killer. I am not a statistician but I can tell you this has tipped past the possibility of coincidence.

If we start silencing any group because a person’s ideology agreed with that group and that person commits an act of violence no one will be able to speak on politics period. There are several acts of violence done by people all over the political spectrum. The left just want to silence people they disagree with period. That’s the only way they win. Silence the people they disagree with.

And again I will state.. There is no evidence this not job was nothing but a nut job, not left or right. The left is only talking about this because again I state they don’t want to let a crisis go to waste. The left is trying to exploit this tragic event and shame on all of you for it.

first the right wing extremists are calling obama a communist ….a muslem….a destroyer of america..etc etc
Rush REFErs to obaMa presidency as THE REGIME….BECK COMPARES OBAMA TO HITLER-THEN SUM NUT NUTJOB GOES BERSERK-AND THE RIGHT TRYS TO AVOID BLAME..COME ON

Color Me Badd said:
Glenn Beck is a hypocrite, he made this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctwqnkWdCJg Glenn Beck Threatens To Kill Michael Moore.

Your cleverly truncated clip did not finish the statement. Later, Beck said that he did not really want to kill Michael Moore, but if he did, he would use a harpoon.

Now, on the other side, check out this bit by the soon to be unknown and unemployed Mike Malloy:

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2009/08/libtalker-renews-call-for-glenn-becks.html

D REX said:
first the right wing extremists are calling obama a communist ….a muslem….a destroyer of america..etc etcRush REFErs to obaMa presidency as THE REGIME….BECK COMPARES OBAMA TO HITLER-THEN SUM NUT NUTJOB GOES BERSERK-AND THE RIGHT TRYS TO AVOID BLAME..COME ON

You have a difficult time with facts, don’t you? It seems you also have a difficult time with spelling, grammar, and reasoning.

JamesA1102 said:
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/235927/GLENN-BECK.jpg

Citing the Huffandpuffpost! HA, now that’s rich!

GlennBeckReview said:
this story IS about Beck’s nervousness about being attached to this despicable act. I have not posted anything linking Beck to this story because I don’t have biased assimilation.

And this is about you Bombshell:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_disorder

People DIED here at the hand of an insane young liberal and all the other liberals in the media and on the left can do is try to shift blame to their political opponents.

Palin, Beck, Fox News, Rush etc. had NOTHING to do with this & NONE of them has EVER called for violence against their political enemies – EVER. For the left to try and cover up THEIR calls for violence by pointing to the innocent, is despicable. Especially when THEY are the ones who have CONSTANTLY used violence in their rhetoric.

Let me be clear, the responsibility for this lies with the shooter and with the shooter alone, but if you want to blame opinion leaders, shouldn’t you blame the opinion leaders that this nutcase actually listened to and followed?

GlennBeckReview said:
Probably NOT sane says:“GBR will bla bla bla.” When this reactionary claims that I’m “obsessed,” he’s projecting. I don’t even have to make a comment on a post before this hole attacks me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_disorder

Hey Bombshell, the above was written about YOU.

SARAH PALIN’S COMMENTS: “There are nutjobs on all sides. … Terror is terror. I don’t care if it’s for Allah or your party. You are not a freedom fighter. You’re a killer.”

“I hate violence. I hate war. Our children will not have peace if politicos just capitalize on this to succeed in portraying anyone as inciting terror and violence.”

JON’S INTERPRETATION–SHALL WE SAY SPIN?:

What he read from Palin was short enough to be open to all kinds of interpretation but, given how little she’s said so far, still worth looking at.

AND HOW WOULD YOU LOOK AT IT JON? YOUR INTERPRETATION FOLLOWS:

At this point, one has a hard time not feeling a little bad for Sarah Palin. And it is this sympathy that Beck is clearly playing upon (a much more successful defense of the former Governor than some others). She definitely didn’t deserve all of the negative attention she received and the connections that were made between her and the killer.

HOW FREAKING MAGNANAMOUS! DIDN’T DESERVE ALL THE BLAME WHEN IT WAS A LUNATIC LEFTIE WHO GUNNED DOWN THE WOMAN HE WAS OBSESSED WITH. YOU HAVE HIT A NEW LOW JON, BUT BEING THE LEFTIE YOU ARE, I’M CERTAIN YOU CAN GO LOWER….MAYBE EVEN AS LOW AS SOME OF THE LUNATIC LEFTIES WHO OFFER THEIR VITRIOL OVER ANYTHING RESEMBLING CONSERVATISM.

Todd Aldrich said:
People DIED here at the hand of an insane young liberal and all the other liberals in the media and on the left can do is try to shift blame to their political opponents.

Liar. Dude is a registered independent. Why is a liberal targeting a liberal member of congress if that was his motive? You make no fucking sense by ascribing ideology to the killer. By stating that the guy is a liberal, you are doing the VERY SAME THING you are accusing the left of doing to the right which makes you a liar and a hypocrite.

Palin, Beck, Fox News, Rush etc. had NOTHING to do with this & NONE of them has EVER called for violence against their political enemies – EVER.

This is false. They do it all the time with bombastic language. I could spend 30 minutes documenting these instances just from the past year alone.

For the left to try and cover up THEIR calls for violence by pointing to the innocent, is despicable. Especially when THEY are the ones who have CONSTANTLY used violence in their rhetoric.

That is false as well. BOTH the left and the right engage in heated political rhetoric and engage in violence! When the right says the President is at war with the country, that is incitement. When the right says that the President wants to make you a slave, that is incitement. When the right says that the President wants to kill 10% of the population, that is incitement. When the right says that bullets should be used if balloting doesn’t, that is incitement. When the right compares POTUS to the greatest tyrants of the 20th century (hitler, Stalin et al…), that is incitement. I could go on 1,000X! They may not be shooting the gun, but they sure as hell are giving the people the gun and handing them the bullets. Rational people will not do anything with the gun but unstable people do go ahead and use it. Do not claim the moral pedestal as if your side does not engage in incendiary rhetoric.

Let me be clear, the responsibility for this lies with the shooter and with the shooter alone, but if you want to blame opinion leaders, shouldn’t you blame the opinion leaders that this nutcase actually listened to and followed?

This is asinine and contradicts your own earlier statement. Blame should be placed on the person who commits the act. I agree with you there. Do you want me to blame Bill O’Reilly for inspiring the assassination of Dr. Tiller? That is what you are implying with your latter statement.

Seeing 2012 From Padded Cell says:
“GBR, you are just going to have to face the fact that people consider you a big joke.”

I don’t expect anything else to come from a reactionary as deluded as you and so many others like you on this site. Like the morons before you, all you can offer is a personal attack on me, a sign of a mind incapable of debating the issues or of having the courage to try to defend the lies and hypocrisy of Glenn Beck.

Beck’s defenders are gullible sheep; I have no reason to take you seriously unless you want to “man up” and address the facts: Beck is a liar, a charlatan and a hypocrite.

Try, Padded Cell, to prove where I have something wrong in that claim.

Voiceof Irrationality baselessly says:
“You are a liar with a bias and an unreasonable hatred”

More personal attacks on me because, like Padded Cell, you refuse to man up and address my claims.

Nothing you have ever posted here suggests that you are a voice of reason. You are a voice of REACTIONARIES, we can see that clearly, and this assault on me, that based upon your emotional attachment to liar Beck, only makes my point.

I don’t completely agree with the following post, but the tone captures what Sheriff Clarence Dupnik meant when he said that “the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government” may have triggered Loughner’s rampage. “There’s reason to believe that this individual may have a mental issue and I think that people who are unbalanced are especially susceptible to vitriol.”

This argument is from William Rivers Pitt on TruthOut:

To: Palin-lovers, Fox “News,” the “mainstream” media, and the Far Right, et al.

From: William Rivers Pitt

Date: Monday 10 January 2011

Re: The blood on your hands

Dear “Patriots,”

Rep. Gabrielle Giffords isn’t much older than I am. She served in the Arizona State House of Representatives, and the Arizona State Senate, before being elected to three successive terms in the U.S. House of Representatives. She once described herself as a “former Republican,” and is today considered a “Blue Dog” Democrat, meaning she holds a number of conservative political positions. This is not terribly surprising, given the generally conservative political bent of the state she has served for the last ten years. She was married four years ago to a space shuttle commander who had served as a Naval aviator, and who flew 39 combat missions in Desert Storm, before volunteering for astronaut training.

Last Wednesday, she was sworn in to her third term as the Representative for Arizona’s 8th congressional district. One of her first acts in the newly-minted 112th Congress was to read aloud from the House floor, in response to the Republican Party’s recitation of the Constitution, the following lines: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

She returned to Arizona not long after to assist in the implementation of that most vital of Constitutional principles, calling together a meeting of her constituents in a peaceable assembly so the citizens she represents could petition the government for a redress of grievances. Among the gathered crowd were a number of her staffers, a judge, and a nine-year-old girl named Christina-Taylor Green who was born on September 11, 2001.

And then all Hell broke loose.

A man named Jared Lee Loughner waded into the group and fired a bullet into Rep. Giffords’ skull at point-blank range, before turning his weapon on others in the crowd. Christina-Taylor Greene, who would have celebrated her tenth birthday on the tenth anniversary of 9/11, was shot in the chest and killed. The woman who brought her to the event was also shot. Gabriel Zimmerman, who served as Rep. Giffords’ director of community outreach, was also killed. He was 30 years old, and was recently engaged to be married. U.S. District Judge John Roll, who had served on the bench for twenty years, was also killed. Dorwin Stoddard, a church volunteer, died after putting his body between his wife and the hail of bullets. His wife was also shot. Two of Rep. Giffords’ constituents, Dorothy Morris and Phyllis Scheck, were also killed. All in all, 31 shots were fired before several brave souls tackled Loughner, disarmed him, and wrestled him to the ground.

At the time of this writing, Rep. Giffords is lying in a hospital bed in critical condition. The God you Bible-spewing frauds love to flog the rest of us with must have been in that supermarket crowd with her on Saturday, with His hand on her shoulder, because it is nothing short of a full-fledged miracle she survived at all. Doctors are actually cautiously optimistic that she will survive, though the degree to which she will ultimately recover is still sorely in doubt. She can respond to simple commands, according to her doctors, and is marginally able to communicate. If she survives her wound, it is wretchedly certain her life will never, ever be the same.

I just thought you should know a few things about the people you helped into their graves and hospital beds this weekend.

Yes, you.

You false patriots who bring assault rifles to political rallies, you hack politicians and media personalities who lied through your stinking teeth about “death panels” and “Obama is coming for your guns” and “He isn’t a citizen” and “He’s a secret Muslim” and “Sharia Law is coming to America,” you who spread this bastard gospel and you who swallowed it whole, I am talking to you, because this was your doing just as surely as it was the doing of the deranged damned soul who pulled the trigger. The poison you injected into our culture is deeply culpable for this carnage.

You who worship Jesus at the top of your lungs (in defiance of Christ’s own teachings on the matter of worship, by the way) helped put several churchgoers into their graves and into the hospital. You who shriek about the sanctity of marriage helped cut down a man who was about to be married. You who crow with ceaseless abandon about military service and the nobility of our fighting forces helped to critically wound the wife of a Naval aviator who fought for you in a war. You who hold September 11 as your sword and shield helped put a little girl born on that day into the ground.

You helped. Yes, damn you, you helped.

The “mainstream” media is already working overtime playing up the “Disturbed loner” angle with all their might. There is no doubt, from the available evidence, of Mr. Loughner’s transformation into a disturbed individual. But here’s the funny part: all the crazy crap he spewed, about the gold standard (a favorite of Glenn Beck, the master of Fox “News” fearmongering…so he can sell his gold scam to suckers) and government mind control and everything else before going on his rampage, is straight out of the Right-Wing Insanity Handbook. His personal YouTube ramblings were a mishmash of right-wing anti-government nonsense…the kind that attracts sick minds like Loughner, the kind that only reinforces their paranoia, the kind that finally pushes them over the brink and into the frenzy of violence that took place on Saturday. The kind that the likes of you have been happily spreading by the day.

He did not act alone. You were right there with him. You helped.

I’m talking to you, “mainstream” media people, who created this atmosphere of desperate rage and total paranoia out of whole cloth because of your unstoppable adoration for spectacle, and ratings, and because the companies that own your sorry asses agree with the deranged cretins you helped make so famous and powerful. It was sickeningly amusing on Sunday to watch Wolf Blitzer bluster and bluff on CNN about how the media owns no responsibility for this disaster. It was like watching a ten-year-old try to explain how a lamp got broken while he was running through the living room, but no, it wasn’t him. It was, in reality, a pathetic display…but that is what you generally get whenever Wolf is on your screen.

“Mainstream” news personalities like David Gergen and John King bent over backwards warning people not to blame Sarah Palin and her ilk for this calamity. It was a sick man who did this, they said. Bollocks to that. I hate to break this to the “mainstream” media know-betters, but words matter. When people like Palin spray the airwaves with calls to violence and incantations of imminent doom, people like Loughner are listening, and prepared to act. The “mainstream” media lets it fly without any questions or rebuttal, because it’s good for ratings, and here we are. Words matter. Play Russian Roulette long enough, and someone inevitably winds up dead.

Remember the run-up to the Iraq invasion, and the subsequent occupation? “WMD everywhere, al Qaeda connections to 9/11, plastic sheeting and duct tape because we’re all gonna die!” was the central theme of the majority of your broadcast schedule for years…until it was all proven to be a lie. You helped the liars, you were the liars, but you knew that. You also got your spectacle, and the corporations that own you got paid a king’s ransom, so everyone was happy, except the dead.

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Tell me this is any different, I dare you. For the spectacle, the ratings and the pleasure of your owners, you ran names like “Sarah Palin” across the sky in lights, even after she should have faded into well-deserved obscurity, and helped this blister of right-wing rage fester until it finally burst. This was your show, and in perhaps the most wretched irony of all, I would bet all my worldly possessions that your ratings are through the roof right now. You got what you wanted. I hope you are pleased.

And yes, I’m talking to you, Sarah Palin, you unutterably disgusting fraud. You pulled it off your ridiculous website, but it’s out there: you put cross-hairs – literally, cross-hairs – on Rep. Giffords, you blithered about “reloading” instead of “retreating,” and you made this country more stupid and violent with every breath you took. Well, congratulations, you failure, you quitter, you inciter of mobs. You put the cross-hairs on her, and someone finally pulled the trigger. Run from it all you like, Lady MacBeth, but this blood will never be washed from your hands.

I’m talking to you, Sharron Angle, you walking punch-line, who talked about “Second Amendment remedies” being necessary if you didn’t get your way on health care reform during your failed Senate campaign.

I’m talking to you, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity, and Bill O’Reilly, and Michael Savage, and Ann Coulter, and Laura Ingraham, and to every other right-wing tripe-spewing blowhard blogger and Fox News broadcaster. I hope you are proud of yourselves, because this is the day you get to reap what you have been relentlessly sowing since you were forced to encompass the unmitigated outrage of a Black man winning the office of President of the United States.

That’s right, I said it. Anyone who thinks good old-fashioned American bigotry and racism are not the core motivation for a vast majority of these so-called “revolutionaries” should get their heads examined. You’ve heard of the “elephant in the middle of the room?” Well, this is the burning cross in the middle of the room, and no amount of spin will douse those flames.

I’m talking to you, Koch Brothers. Your money to create and spread this disease was well-spent; you now have one less Democrat in the House to worry about, at least for the foreseeable future. Congratulations, you un-American sacks of filth.

And I’m talking to each and every one of you who listened to these traitors and believed the nonsense they spewed at you for no other reason than to pick your pockets for campaign/organization contributions. I’m talking to you who wore your silly fatigues and carried your badly-spelled fact-deprived signs to protests with pistols on your hips and rifles on your shoulders. You who threw bricks through the windows of politicians you disagreed with. You who shot out the windows of Rep. Giffords’ office not even a year ago.

You worked very hard to create exactly this atmosphere in America, and now it has come to be. We have entered the age of the Wrath of Fools, and we now must again exist in an America where the word “assassination” has become all too relevant.

You helped this happen. You.

You know it. I know it. Have the guts to admit it, even if only to yourselves.

I know many Republicans and conservatives, and consider them to be dear friends. The single most influential person in my life (aside from my mother) was a rock-ribbed conservative Republican, and there is no person I respected more than him. I do not count these people, and those like them, among those whom I address here. They are as sickened and repulsed by you as I am.

This is not the end of the story, but is just the beginning. The good people of the United States of America, the true patriots, have finally seen you with your media-painted masks ripped off. They have seen what comes to pass when hate, venom, ignorance and violence goes unchecked and unanswered. You have been exposed, and the fact that it took such an unimaginably horrific act for that exposure to take place only increases the fierceness with which you will be answered. You will be repudiated, not with violence, but with the scorn and rejection you so richly deserve. Spin it as you will, scramble all you like. You are found out, and you have nowhere to hide.

Oh, P.S., if anyone reading this is operating under the delusion that the overheated right-wing rhetoric that went a long way towards almost getting Rep. Giffords killed, and had a strong hand in putting six people in the ground, is some sort of new Obama-era phenomenon, well…

“I tell people don’t kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus – living fossils – so we will never forget what these people stood for.”

- Rush Limbaugh, Denver Post, 12-29-95

“Get rid of the guy. Impeach him, censure him, assassinate him.”

- Rep. James Hansen (R-UT), talking about President Clinton

“We’re going to keep building the party until we’re hunting Democrats with dogs.”

- Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX), Mother Jones, 08-95

“My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building.”

- Ann Coulter, New York Observer, 08-26-02

“We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors.”

- Ann Coulter, at the Conservative Political Action Conference, 02-26-02

“Chelsea is a Clinton. She bears the taint; and though not prosecutable in law, in custom and nature the taint cannot be ignored. All the great despotisms of the past – I’m not arguing for despotism as a principle, but they sure knew how to deal with potential trouble – recognized that the families of objectionable citizens were a continuing threat. In Stalin’s penal code it was a crime to be the wife or child of an ‘enemy of the people.’ The Nazis used the same principle, which they called Sippenhaft, ‘clan liability.’ In Imperial China, enemies of the state were punished ‘to the ninth degree’: that is, everyone in the offender’s own generation would be killed and everyone related via four generations up, to the great-great-grandparents, and four generations down, to the great-great-grandchildren, would also be killed.”

- John Derbyshire, National Review, 02-15-01

“Two things made this country great: White men & Christianity. The degree these two have diminished is in direct proportion to the corruption and fall of the nation. Every problem that has arisen (sic) can be directly traced back to our departure from God’s Law and the disenfranchisement of White men.”

- State Rep. Don Davis (R-NC), emailed to every member of the North Carolina House and Senate, reported by the Fayetteville Observer, 08-22-01

I could go on, and on, and on, and on, but you get the gist.

Most Disrespectfully Yours,
William Rivers Pitt

I would add Glenn Beck describing himself as a progressive hunter. HUNTER! Beck is dangerous!

PALIN = MURDERER OF WOMAN, CHILDREN AND SENIOR CITIZENS…
Now that “Big Mouth” Bee Atch murderer is hiding in AK.

mibwilso said:
You’re a nut. The Fort Hood shooter never identified with liberal causes or groups. Just because he’s a muslim makes him a liberal

You are correct the Fort Hood Shooter did not “identify” with liberal causes or groups. The fact is, he was tuned in to jihadist rhetoric and was an acolyte of several jihadist imams. He was, however, abetted by liberals who then to refuse profiling anyone and paying attention when someone suggests they are dangerous. The same mistake was made when a young lady communicated with her school that Loughner was dangerous–they ignored the warning and the results are what they are. Political “correctness” will kill you every time!

yweston said:
PALIN = MURDERER OF WOMAN, CHILDREN AND SENIOR CITIZENS…Now that “Big Mouth” Bee Atch murderer is hiding in AK.

I see you’re out of the rubber room. I see the shock therapy and medications didn’t help you.

Nahu Tuk said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_disorder Hey Bombshell, the above was written about YOU.

I guess Bristol will be staying in Alaska and not moving to Arizona!
Plus why are all these people afraid? I’ve been reading for years that an armed society is a safe society, what changed their opinion? Could it be that now they could be targets of that same armed society. Don’t be hypocrites go forth into the same world their constituents live and show your strength and courage!

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PALIN = MURDERER OF WOMAN, CHILDREN AND SENIOR CITIZENS…
Now that “Big Mouth” Bee Atch murderer is hiding in AK.

bdpritch says:

Ditto, I must say the far right are doing what they do best by NEVER accepting responsibility. They know they have a segment of the population that will vote for an egg so long as it’s the white egg. So she will continue to have followers because of her good old gal persona and mediocre knowledge of the political system to which she admitted.

Imagine those who wanted this woman to be vice president or president simply because of everything she’s not. Damn, no wonder the country is in despair.

”This is fascism. This is what happens when you merge special interests, corporations, and the government. This is what happens. And if people like you don’t take a stand…at some point, you know what poem keeps going through my mind is ‘First they came for the Jews.’ …… Gang, at some point they’re going to come for you.”
—Glenn Beck, on closures of auto dealerships under the bankruptcy deals of GM and Chrysler, ”The Glenn Beck Program,” June 10, 2009

”If you log onto this (Cars.gov) at your home, everything in your home is now theirs.”
—Glenn Beck, arguing that the Cash for Clunkers program was nothing more than a secret government plot to gain access over your computer, July 2009

”I fear a Reichstag moment. God forbid, another 9/11. Something that will turn this machine on, and power will be seized and voices will be silenced.”
—Glenn Beck, comparing actions by Washington elitists to the 1933 burning of Germany’s parliament building in Berlin, which the Nazis blamed on communists and Hitler used as an excuse to suspend constitutional liberties and consolidate power, Newsmax interview, Sept. 29, 2009

If what he says and continues to say isn’t meant to instill fear, paranoia and action on the listeners part, then your making excuses for him and yourself.

“They’re going to come for you.” If this isn’t intended to instill fear, then why does he always say these things?

Glenn Beck has got to go!

juan said:
When will Mediaite report about Obama’s rhetoric:Doug Ross says:January 9, 2011 at 3:20 pm Doug Ross(Quote) 7 3I say we blame the man who incessantly uses violent rhetoric to advance his political cause.– “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”– “Get in Their Faces!”– “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”– “Hit Back Twice As Hard”– “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“– Opposition victory would mean “hand to hand combat”– “It’s time to Fight for it.”– “Punish your enemies.”– “I’m itching for a fight.”Oh, wait. Those quotes were all uttered by our beloved President.Never mind.Commented @http://www.mediaite.com/print/krugman-olbermann-and-the-race-to-explain-the-unexplainable/

WOW THOSE ARE REAL BAD TERRORISTIC THREATS……SOUNDS LIKE A COACH AT A BALL GAME TO ME..LOLOLOLOL

GlennBeckReview said:
“Probably NOT sane says:“GBR will bla bla bla.” When this reactionary claims that I’m “obsessed,” he’s projecting. I don’t even have to make a comment on a post before this hole attacks me.” And writing of reactionary holes, StupidAlec says:“And GBR (Bombshell) only mentions Glenn Beck when the article is about Beck.” a) I never wrote that andb) this story IS about Beck’s nervousness about being attached to this despicable act. I have not posted anything linking Beck to this story because I don’t have biased assimilation. I read the killer’s youtube postings and could not connect them to Beck’s violence inciting and hateful rhetoric or dumb conspiracy theories. Jon wrote that Beck “suggested she contact the security firm he uses because ‘an attempt on [Palin] could bring the Republic down.’ ” I’ve never called Beck delusional … until now. Suddenly Beck perversely “thinks” that half-term Gov. Palin is a pillar to our Republic. I try to argue that Beck is not a moron, but these are trying times, or more precisely, trying lines. A has-been and a may-be is in fact a nobody, Constitutionally writing. What insanity will Beck spout next? If a bullet goes through and through Beck’s skull, it would be the end of civil discourse in America? If that sounds insane, it is. Sadly Beck says things that are “completely insane” like that too often. Doubt that? Ask Byron Williams who was going to start a revolution in Beck’s name. We can only hope that Beck’s concern for his own safety will compel him to tap down his violent and vitriolic rhetoric.”

jo hoochie says:
“You sir is the one who is SICK!! You seem to have an obsession and hate with Beck. If something happens to Beck then I would say someone needs to come looking for You!
Filth and nastiness G.B.R.; that’s what you bring to these pages. Nothing more.
G.B.R., you are scum, and that’s being nice about your vitriolic manner. These are your words you wrote about someone else but I believe this is you!So G.B.R, do everyone a favor and saddle up your half-sack and get real. Talk about the issues in a way that actually conveys a point and maybe we’ll not just understand what it is you stand for but also accept it as valid. Hell, you might get someone to think outside their own narrow little box.”

Three assassination attempts were inspired by Glenn Beck last year, and I’m the “sick” one. Explain this Jo:

”This is fascism. This is what happens when you merge special interests, corporations, and the government. This is what happens. And if people like you don’t take a stand…at some point, you know what poem keeps going through my mind is ‘First they came for the Jews.’ …… Gang, at some point they’re going to come for you.”
—Glenn Beck, on closures of auto dealerships under the bankruptcy deals of GM and Chrysler, ”The Glenn Beck Program,” June 10, 2009

”If you log onto this (Cars.gov) at your home, everything in your home is now theirs.”
—Glenn Beck, arguing that the Cash for Clunkers program was nothing more than a secret government plot to gain access over your computer, July 2009

”I fear a Reichstag moment. God forbid, another 9/11. Something that will turn this machine on, and power will be seized and voices will be silenced.”
—Glenn Beck, comparing actions by Washington elitists to the 1933 burning of Germany’s parliament building in Berlin, which the Nazis blamed on communists and Hitler used as an excuse to suspend constitutional liberties and consolidate power, Newsmax interview, Sept. 29, 2009

If what he says and continues to say isn’t meant to instill fear, paranoia and action on the listeners part, then your making excuses for him and yourself.

“They’re going to come for you.” If this isn’t intended to instill fear, then why does he always say these things?

Beck is a hateful fear-monger who inspired the disconnected to violence. God knows we have enough of them around.

From Thom Hartmann:
“When you listen to people like Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, and the rest of the gang – it’s easy to see – these men and women are guilty of something called stochastic terrorism. That is – the use of mass communication like radio or television to encourage individuals to commit random lone acts of violence. It’s what Glenn Beck was guilty of when he encouraged Byron Williams to attempt to massacre members of the Tides foundation and ACLU. It’s what Bill O’ Reilly was guilty of when he shouted “Tiller the baby killer” a dozen times on his show – and then someone killed Dr. George Tiller. And it could be what all these talking heads are guilty of when Jared Lee Loughner took his semi-automatic pistol to a local Safeway grocery store in Tucson on Saturday and attacked his hated “big government” by trying to assassinate a Congresswoman. We are living in a volatile and violent nation today – and if we want to emerge from it – we need to recognize the damage certain people on the Right are doing. They are profiting off their own unique form of terrorism.”