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The History Of Presidents And Other People’s Fingers: Brian Williams Once Pointed At George W. Bush

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Recently, the most attention has been paid to a politician’s finger since that brief period in the 90s when Sen. Bob Dole copied Carson Daly’s black nail polish look (Bring it back, Bob! It worked!). The reason? The infamous picture of Jan Brewer either horribly disrespecting the President or pointing out that he has some ear wax buildup. Since that photo surfaced, some commentators have accused the moment of everything from racism to intentional self promotion. But, did you know that a very similar moment occurred a few years back between Brian Williams and George W. Bush?

Yes, the intrepid memories over at at Breitbart.tv have caught this heated 2006 exchange between Williams and then-President Bush about Bush’s reading habits. Basically, Williams seems skeptical that the President is really sitting down to read, as he claimed, Albert Camus.

Breitbart.tv is posting the video as proof that finger pointing isn’t instant proof of KKK membership, positing “It will be interesting to see if those same media commentators [who critiqued Brewer] will have the same reaction to this gesture made by Brian Williams.”

It’s an interesting question. We don’t have any footage of the Obama/Brewer encounter and the two are giving wildly differing accounts, but is there a comparison here? There’s a difference between a media figure and an elected official, sure, but the media response was insanely harsh. Of course, that may have been stoked a bit by Brewer’s grandstanding. So, what do you all think?

Of course, the real question is how the Williams video affected Camus’ book sales.

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(h/t Breitbart.tv)

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  • http://twitter.com/KingMike33 That’s Sir Eli

    There’s a HUGE difference between someone pointing at your chest during a casual conversation and someone pointing their finger directly in your FACE during a heated discussion! If Brian Williams would have did the same thing to former Pres Bush, the Secret Service would have tackled him!

  • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.c.carr Joseph C. Carr

    this is a joke … this isn’t remotely similar to jan brewer for three reasons:
    (1) it’s obvious that brian williams is having a friendly discussion w/ president bush … and wasn’t using his finger to POINT at president bush but to gesture with his hands. 
    (2) the camera angle is odd – we have no idea if he was pointing towards president bush or pointing near president bush. 
    (3) brian williams didn’t go on a trillion TV shows after this conversation and say he felt “threatened” by the “intense” discussion w/ the president of the united states of america. 

  • Anonymous

    “I also read three Shakespeare’s”.

  • huffnnoccupyn

    Finger-pointing? No one else sees Williams’ righteous condescension with his folded arms, slight head tilt, and immobility and Bush’s nervous apprehension with his dangling arms, verbal stuttering, and rocking back-and-forth … not to mention Bush’s quickest dismissal of the topic of choice of authors from Camus to Shakespeare (three of ‘em!) turning the exchange from the intended literary discussion to a mere list of what books I say I read last summer.

  • huffnnoccupyn

    Bush believes each sonnet is a complete work. He may have a technical argument, there.

  • Anonymous

    He was actually making swirlies with his finger, maybe that’s worse though.  Do swirlies mean something I don’t know?

  • Anonymous

    You did not watch the video?  Williams was practically drawing circles on the presidents shirt, the video will clear that up in about a minute and a half. 

    It was obvious in the beginning that Gov. Brewer was attempting a “friendly discussion” prior to the president getting prissy about her book, an issue that really wasn’t necessary to bring up, but bring it up he did.

    Number 3, they made news, get over it.  I doubt the AZ governor spent a second of her time calling news outlets begging to go on their shows.  This also wasn’t the first time Obama was rude to a head of a state he happened to be a guest in.  Apparently he leaves his manners in the White House residence; note that I did not include the West wing….he’s also failed to keep his manners in check there.

  • Anonymous

    Liberal hypocrites strike again.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Mediaite and Breitbart for reminding me what a dolt George W. Bush was.

  • Anonymous

    Breaking News: Andrew Breitbart’s staff have harnessed the almighty power of YouTube.

    With their newfound might, they boldy strode into a fierce, brave new world in which people have fingers that, on occasion, are pointed at other people.

    Conveniently, this strange frontier is one where the local language has long since lost the meaning of such ancient utterances as “context,” thereby in no way impeding their advance.

    Film at 11.

  • Anonymous

    The difference being a news personality vs the Governor of AZ.  Being there was no threat to Obama, there was no action required by the Secret Service in Governor Brewer’s encounter with the president.

  • Anonymous

    There’s audio of the Williams/Bush interview, and no reasonable person thinks Williams is a friendly interview (unless he’s interviewing a Democrat).   

    There is no audio of the Brewer/Obama encounter but if you accept Obama came off the plane and started bitching (like he’s done before in the presence of reporters) and also accept Brewer was returning the attitude, its not the same kind of discussion as Williams/Bush but it is similar in that the President was being treated as an equal, not a superior.   

    Many of those who’ve criticized Brewer have used the argument she was being disrespectful to the office, that he should be able to be a bully but she can’t respond in kind.  Personally, I don’t accept that argument.  Bush was/is just a man, as is Obama.  There’s all kinds of respect that the President is owed (I think) since their concentration and decisions are indeed much more impacting than my own (so I’d probably go weak in the knees worrying I’m wasting their time) – but if he came up to me and acted like a jerk I’d tell him so, President or not. 

    If he was just glad-handing and spoke some useless platitude to me I would be equally gracious and let him go on his way.  I don’t believe for a second he came off the plane and said (only) something nice.  He and Holder have been portraying Arizona as the enemy as much as he has Congress.

  • Anonymous

    So the right wing media machine is going to keep Fingerpointinggate alive for another day?

  • Anonymous

    Did you really expect an Obama zombie to actually watch the video?  They prefer to comment on what they wished happened…..not on what actually did happen.  

  • Anonymous

    All true. What’s funny too is that Breitbart dug up a video of Bush sounding like an idiot to defend him. Him reading Camus is just him catching up on what he missed out in high school. And he couldn’t even pronounce the word “eclectic,” again something that most 10th graders can handle. 

  • Anonymous

    Another scoop by Breitbart.  MSNBC was all in a tizzy about never having seen anyone point their finger at the President, and voila!  Video surfaces to show what hypocrites they are.

  • Anonymous

    Selective outrage is their way.

  • Gloves Angus Donahue

    For some reason, Finger History in Politics never covers 2008, when Senator Obama gave the finger, onstage, to Senator Clinton and to Senator McCain.

    This Chicago Street Punk behavior is right up there with the Nixon/Kruschev kitchen finger incident. But, why discuss it, hmm?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ERDSZOOPOITNDF3GS45TPSRZP4 Jeff


    We don’t have any footage of the Obama/Brewer encounter and the two are giving wildly differing accounts, but is there a comparison here?” Really? 
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/44/post/why-is-there-no-video-of-obama-brewer-tiff/2012/01/26/gIQAR5AGTQ_blog.html. But other than that I commend Mediate for finally pointing out some lib hypocrisy. You really need to hire a conservative reporter if you want to be deemed fair with the likes of Tommy (not his real name) Christopher putting up dozens of anti-conservative/Republican articles a week.

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    In my opinion, whether you’re a journalist, elected official or citizen, pointing you finger at the President is disrespectful!!

  • Anonymous

    Ofcourse, Obama thinks respect shouldonly go one way – from his subjects to him; I note the lack of discussion rgarding Obama’s behavior in not respecting a sitting Governor, not to mention a woman….lets not forget, Obama has a history of being sexist.

    What was it that Brian Williams said about the whole finger pointing incident?  He was outraged.  NBC, the National Barak Channel, once again caught up in their own hystrionics.  The bower versus the pointer – poor Brian, what a dip.

  • Ch Ob

    Basically we can not come to any conclusion about the Obama/Brewer debacle unless the Reuters or AP cameraman who was there releases the footage from a different angle. That’s if it exists.

  • Anonymous

    You are right, different context.  Had President Bush started nagging Williams about a newscast that wasn’t flattering to him and that, in turn,  caused Williams to become animated in defense of his reportage, then it would have been in context.  But, as we saw in the video, in spite of all the Brian Williams prior newscasts, President Bush was very gracious. 

    Never any stories about any hissy fits thrown by President Bush…instead we heard about invitations to the Kennedys to view the President Kennedy movie…he had the Clintons in to unveil their portraits….things like that, gracious, mannerly gestures toward the opposition.

  • Anonymous

    I base all my decisions on party.
    When a democratic president gets pointed at, I love it.
    When a republican president gets pointed at, it’s totally disrespectful.

    Doesn’t matter the context or reasons, point at a liberal president, you’re my hero. Point at a republican president, you hate America.

     

  • 12voltman1

    It was wrong of Mr Williams as well.(Although he was more causal)Should not happen to any President (even Dubya). A member of the press or a Governor should know better.
    Addressing situations,disagreements that’s OK.
    But when speaking to the president one should be civil,polite and repectful.
    And I consider myself a Liberal who likes Brian Williams.

  • lazzzlo

    You have to be kidding.  My heritage is Celtic, name aside. We talk with our hands and they are demonstrative. 

    An instant of a photo shot catches a finger wag as one of many shots on a high speed burst.

    I’m surprised nobody has brought up the “President bows before no one” as an example of one photo shot defining an array of possibilities..

    Looks to me as if Brewer stated her point.

  • Anonymous

    She was being disrespectful because she was defending the lies she wrote in her book.

    Did you watch the video of the news conference which took place after the actual meeting at the White House back in 2010?

    Brewer was just angry and defense like liars always are when they are confronted with the truth.

    Not only was the old witch pointing her finger in Obama’s face but she was yelling too.
    What’s funny is that there were two other officials there who said that Obama was very nice to the old sea hag. She really needs to learn some manners.

  • Anonymous

    I’m Pointing A Finger Right Now At The Left Stream Media..and it’s not my index finger !!

  • Anonymous

    Dude you’re an idiot.

    First of all look at the distance between Williams and Bush? He isn’t in Bush’s face yelling at him like Brewer was yelling at Obama and Brewer’s boney finger was right in Obama’s face. How many feet is Williams’ finger from Bush’s?

  • lazzzlo

    Replying to myself…Who brought up the meme that a white woman was wagging her finger in a black man’s face?  And what were the examples used once the meme was firmly entrenched?

    Racism!  

    It’s ok to dislike somebody…if they happen to be different than you…it still is ok.

    Deal with facts.

  • 12voltman1

    Then he did the google on the interwebs later.

  • Anonymous

    In my opinion this whoel episode is a perfect illustration of the Presidency of Barack Obama. Anytime there has been the slightest form of dissent and/or negativity towards him the Left and the media react as if someone raped their child. They start throwing bombs around(Its Racist! No President in the history of the US has ever been disrespected like this before. OUTRAGE!). The guy is the president of the united states and is running to keep that title for another 4 years. If he and his followers are all uptight because a 105 pound senior citizen got in his face, how in the world do you expect him to hold his own against Putin or Ahmedinijad?

  • Anonymous

    No, but there wasn’t a jet airplane powering down making it difficult to hear anyone not right in front of your face or speaking into your ear.

  • 12voltman1

    I love the fact Dubya is standing in front of a Jimmy Carter “Habituate for Humanity” sign during the  interview.

  • http://twitter.com/Zamir Zamir

    i kinda miss him for some weird reason

  • Anonymous

    Williams is such an ass.  You can tell he doesn’t believe that Bush actually read the book he was asking about as he was asking him to explain the story.  George Bush has ten times the education that Williams has but Williams is talking to him like he is some guy in a nursing home.

  • Anonymous

    Lookie here, just what do we have lecturing the Governor of Arizona about manners.  Can’t make this stuff up, just have to see it for yourself.  lol

  • Anonymous

    Actually “the right wing media machine” is talking about Holder lying about Fast and Furious, the vandalism and 400 arrests made at the peaceful OWS protests out in Oakland, the Treasury Dept. upping the auto bailout losses and another Obama green energy investment using taxpayer dollars going down the tubes and wondering what fat cat crony benefitted from this one.

  • Anonymous

    It fits the ‘elite’ liberal mantra that conservatives are uneducated and stupid, just look at the liberal study Mediaite posted the other day.

  • Anonymous

    Now that reminds me of the day Obama helped on one of the HFH projects:

    http://oregoncatalyst.com/2293-Picture-contrasts-Reagan-Bush-and-Obama.html

    Handy, ain’t he.

  • Anonymous

    Did anyone actually watch this interview? I thought it was pretty light and charming between the two. Seriously, are those on the right trying to say this is an example of someone waving their finger in the president’s face in anger?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    The difference being that in the photo of Williams and Bush, it looks like  a heated interaction, as does the one between Brewer and Obama, and Perry and Paul. 

    But when you see the video, you see an ENTIRELY different reality, than what they image captured. Being that there is no video of the exact moment the photo was taken, it is impossible to say exactly what was happening at that moment. YET, that didn’t stop the Left from screaming bloody racism all over the airwaves and internet.

  • F. Douglas

    Liberals always have been heavily invested in the myth that Bush was a dolt and a non-reader. (I’ll grant you that he’s not the slickest public speaker.) But here’s an article (by a liberal scholar who got to know Bush personally) that explains that the stories about Bush being a non-reader are, indeed, just a myth, and in fact he is a prolific reader.

    http://theamericanscholar.org/dubya-and-me/

  • Anonymous

    Brewer should have respected the office, rather than the person in the position, and not spoken about it afterwards.  Her reaction at the time is fine, however, women are not wilting flowers and she forcefully argued her point.   You go girl!   

  • Matt Ketcham

    It’s amazing how time heals all wounds. I remember viewing Bush as a fear-mongering sellout to corporate interests. Now, watching this, I’d love to have a beer with the guy. It’s a good reminder that even the most stringent Tea Party Patriot’s feelings about this president will cool off over time, and that however divided we may be, politicians are people, too.

  • Anonymous

    True.  But when you greet someone, whining about a passage in their book is also impolite.

    Both need to get along, so both should do the border trip together and figure out a good working relationship.  Both.  

  • NDanielson

    Most 10th graders can pronounce corpsmen, and know how many states there are. Every commander in chief should know what a corpsman is. But Barry gets a pass on every little thing from his sheep, doesn’t he?

  • Anonymous

    Or it reinforces Bush’s Texas legacy of being a nice guy who had no problem working with Democrats in Texas even when it ticked off Republicans.  He’s a nice guy who wanted to do what he felt was right, and was willing to compromise, and his approval numbers reflected it.   Once President he was under constant and intense criticism and suddenly he was a moron who couldn’t stumble into doing something right.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    I’m pimping out my blog on this post because I gathered a whole slew of photos, and videos, that are relevant to this post. Obama with other leaders, and Hillary, and the previous meeting between Brewer and Obama.

    http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/way-left-is-reacting-youd-think-brewer.html

    “We don’t have any footage of the Obama/Brewer encounter and the two are giving wildly differing accounts, but is there a comparison here?”Jon – there is video of the two of them, the moment they meet on the tarmac, and Brewer greets him with a big ass smile and handshake (on my blog). Why the AP decided to cut the tape, and then provide video blocking the actual confrontation, I don’t know. But, as anyone can clearly see from the video, she was most cordial and friendly when Obama approached. 

    Obama engaged her in discussion, and the atmosphere changed. I think it’s pretty obvious why.

  • Anonymous

    There is a 2 + minute of the encounter at the White House Dossier shot from the other side of the limo.  You can’t see Brewer, but you can see how intense Obama was with her…no sound, but it’s an interesting view of the whole thing:

    http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/01/27/raw-footage-obama-brewer-smackdown/

  • Anonymous

    I guess “bid ness” is also the norm now.

  • Anonymous

    No, you can’t judge what happened by a still photo.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08S4poMGvwA George Clueless

    BRIAN WILLIAMS: Also, finger pointing. That photo everybody was talking
    about today. Who have you ever seen talking to the president like this
    and what was this all about?

    BRIAN WILLIAMS: All of this takes us to the photo everybody’s been talking
    about today. The governor of Arizona with her finger in the face of the
    President of the United States. You don’t see that often or maybe ever

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/01/29/flashbook-2007-nbcs-brian-williams-wags-finger-president-bush#ixzz1kyWgzhGw

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08S4poMGvwA George Clueless

    Great job Sara!

    You’re way better than these lazy liberal activists that Dan Abrams is paying.

    That Obama fellow sure loves jabbing his bony little fingers in American and world leader’s faces, doesn’t he?

  • lazzzlo

    Here’s another aspect.  
    The leader/governer of a state of the Republic actually challenged the ruler of our Republic to be responsible to the local needs.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KV4RFCL74WV652VV43U3GDPAEY Stephen W

    I’m Al Sharpton and that finga point’n thing is definately racist.     Racist racist i tell ya…..yada yada yada.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Watch this video. 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mRhJwjwXqc&feature=player_embedded

    If anyone knows how to clean up sound on a video should do it. You can hear Obama in this clip.

  • Anonymous

    Ah yes, a simple point to the chest and an aggressive point directly to the face, in what was described as a “heated” conversation” is the same exact thing.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    aggressive point directly to the face? hahaha 
    The *point* is, without the video tape of either of these incidents (as well as the Rick Perry/Ron Paul incident) the photo does NOT tell the whole story.

  • Anonymous

    Well explain the finger wagging?

    Furthermore if she thought she was having trouble being heard she could have pulled him to the side or waited until they got far enough away from the planes so that he could hear her.

    Brewer was just angry because the President called her out on her blatant lies.

  • Anonymous

    Bullshit

  • Anonymous

    Where is your MBA? Ever flown a F-102A? Look it up and take a look at the cockpit.GW has an MBA from Harvard Business School and an B/A from Yale. What about you genius? Think you can match him in academic and vocational achievements? Do you even know what kind of aptitude one has to have to pass fighter training? Do you know the wash-out/fail rate?STFU!

  • Anonymous

    The sheer number of GWB verbal gaffes dwarfs anything Obama said. The 57 states thing is pretty ridiculous to keep harping on considering GWB could barely finish a sentence. But then again, some of you guys think Palin is well spoken when she can’t articulate meaningful sentences. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKD_BSMXVjg&feature=related 

  • Anonymous

    She would have had to tackle him, he was on his way to the ropeline.  Had she tackled him there would be no end to the yowling on the left, what, making their little lemon drop look like a wimp.

  • Anonymous

    Shhhhh, body-language and hand gestures are racist. We all have to keep pushing the racism charge and hope it sticks. 

  • Anonymous

    “A state governor is a high-ranking political figure whose stature is much closer to the president’s than some member of the press.” H. Portnoy

  • Anonymous

    I second that Great Job Sara and give you a thumbs up!  I tried to sign up to your blog but don’t remember my open id thingy so I will just read your stuff.  Nice blog!

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

    funny picture
    not the same thing

  • lazzzlo

    We are burying my aunt from the old country(Scotland) this week.

    It is a stretch

  • Anonymous

    “A state governor is a high-ranking political figure whose stature is much closer to the president’s than some member of the press.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.c.carr Joseph C. Carr

    let me respond:

    - i did watch the video. i stand by what i said. if you see what happened differently, that is your prerogative.

    - i don’t think it’s fair to call me an “Obama Zombie” when you really have no idea who I am. That’s not reasonable. Because I disagree w/ the comparison of Jan Brewer to Brian Williams would hardly qualify me to be a “zombie.” 

    - when you say “they prefer to comment on what they wished happened …” is also unfair and wrong … as my 3rd point is objectively clear and irrefutable. Jan Brewer DID say she felt “threatened” by her “intense” conversation with President Obama. She did comment multiple times about it. Brian Williams did not say anything like what Jan Brewer said … ever. In fact, this is so unlike what happened between Jan Brewer and President Obama that there WAS NO follow up discussion between Brian Williams and any media outlets. If the video is online then multiple people have seen it before this dust up with Jan Brewer and Obama. If it was a problem it would have been an issue before now … but it didn’t so it wasn’t.

  • Anonymous

    No there isn’t. Spin it.

  • Anonymous

    Or of the bruised and bloodied governor from the secret service beating the crap out of her.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. She was telling Obama how cute he was and how she loved his policies. Obviously, a picture means nothing….really.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Is it still moderated? i had to switch it to not allow anony peeps for a while because of stalkers and threats. I will change it, so you can leave me some love on there. :O) 

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Did the picture of Perry and Paul tell the real story? No. Did the Williams and Bush photo? No. Does this one tell the whole story? No. 

  • Anonymous

    The photo of Obama pointing his finger at Hillary Rodham Clinton is the one that I detest the most.  I guess Obama’s mama never taught him that point your finger into someone face was not only impolite, but  it tell others how ignorant you are.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, I forgot to thank you sarainitaly, for posting on your blog site.

  • Anonymous

    Her finger “wags” in a still photograph?

  • Anonymous

    ….but it tells SOMETHING. 

  • Anonymous

    There’s plenty of this out there, too

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAUZFMHXbD8&feature=related

    It is said that man’s best friend is his dog, Obama’s best friend is a teleprompter…although, some of that gibberish could have come from conversations with Bo,  maybe he’s one of his speech coaches.

  • Anonymous

    Is Brian Williams a governor? Hm?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Ar/100000903987836 Chris Ar

    Friendly conversation? Liberals need to WATCH videos the comment on before opening their mouths. We saw this last year when everyone assumed Breitbart lied about something Norah O’Donnell said when the video clearly demonstrated that what Breitbart said was fact. 

    This was no friendly conversation. The question itself was provoked by Williams’ bigoted view that Bush was too stupid to read anything of substance.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Ar/100000903987836 Chris Ar

    If you really watched the video, then you are a liar. That makes you look even worse.

  • Anonymous

    Not mention a woman?? What are you talking about? Who’s the sexist here? By the way Obama himself hasn’t accused Brewer for being disrespectful.

    And Brian Williams is not an elected official.  I know you can’t understand the difference.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Ar/100000903987836 Chris Ar

    Bullshit. Obama’s miscues are on par with Bush’s in both quantity and quality. 

    I’m sure Bush knows Hawaii is not in Asia.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Ar/100000903987836 Chris Ar

    According to the liberal mindset, the fact that he’s a conservative Republican is by default an indicator that he’s a moron, even with his Harvard degree and military service.

  • Anonymous

    :)    Loved the travel pics too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Ar/100000903987836 Chris Ar

    I thank the same for reminding me that, no matter how stupid Bush sounded, he was a better president than the current idiot-in-chief.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Ar/100000903987836 Chris Ar

    What lies?

  • Anonymous

    Clinton wasn’t a president neither was McCain.

    Has a democratic governor or a ongressman pointed a finger to a republican president?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Ar/100000903987836 Chris Ar

    This is comical. Instead of wisely dropping the subject, liberals continue to pour ridiculous distinctions that no one with an open mind takes seriously. What’s next? When Brewer did it she was wrong because as a woman, Obama couldn’t respond or escalate?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Ar/100000903987836 Chris Ar

    What lies? And why is it acceptable for a sitting President to call her out in public, instead of criticizing her in private?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Ar/100000903987836 Chris Ar

    Respect is earned. Obama initiated a confrontation, not Brewer. She’s the sitting governor of a state and calling her out in public for some perceived slight in her book was beneath the dignity of the office he holds.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Ar/100000903987836 Chris Ar

    Reverse that and you’ve told the truth. I don’t remember the right flipping out over this when it originally aired in 2006.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Ar/100000903987836 Chris Ar

    As idiotic as Bush can sound at times, he made a far better president that the current one.

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    Brewer either lied in her book or to reporters right after her meeting with the President!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Ar/100000903987836 Chris Ar

    Yes. Either you are lying about watching it yourself, or you are an incredibly stupid person. This was no light hearted anything. Williams was combative and aggressive from the beginning, and Bush grew increasingly annoyed at having to stand there while a high-level journalist implied that he was an idiot.

  • Anonymous

    I am both lying and incredibly stupid. You are correct – the conversation about reading Camus and Joe DiMaggio biographies was extremely combative and aggressive. 

  • Anonymous

    To put a finger in one’s face is not the same as pointing at the chest.  

  • Anonymous

    Brian is a poser – he did it himself and then has a hissy fit when someone does it to his guy.  National barak Channel’s number one suck-up, Brian the Bower.

  • Pablo

    Notice that video of that particular exchange seems to be MIA. Your point about the single still is well taken.

    Ever feel like you’re being played?

  • Pablo

    That’s because he’s so damn smart his mouth can keep up with his enormous brain!

    But consider this: It’s not that Obama can’t speak clearly. It’s that he
    employs the intellectual stammer. Not to be confused with a stutter,
    which the president decidedly does not have, the intellectual stammer
    signals a brain that is moving so fast that the mouth can’t keep up.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-daum-obamaspeak-20110526,0,2181176.column

    The sad thing is that people like this don’t realize they’re delusional.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tonykoch1 Tony Koch

    Main Stream Media Political Rules

    Rule # 1
     Democrats can gesture or say what ever they want to a president for even if it is disrespectful it is considered “a true form of patriotism” ,   everyone else is a racist if you dont respect Obama, hypocrite if you dont respect Clinton, unintelligent if you don’t respect Carter……”disrespecting the office ” if directed at any other democrat official

    Rule #2

    Revert to rule one

  • Anonymous

    First Lady Clinton deserves the respect of the position she held as the wife of a president. If Brewer pointing her finger at Obama was disrespectful then so was Obama pointing his finger at one of our first ladies. Brewers finger pointing was the same as Obama’s they both use pointing to excess when talking. Obama himself says it was no big deal. The liberals are desperate to try to use this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003105863276 Political Dookie

    Brian Williams is a texist!

  • Anonymous

    Too bad that right wing media machine was too busy covering up for the dismal failures of the Bush-Cheney administration when it had the chance to do actual investigative work. It might have spared the country two unnecessary wars and a once-in-a-lifetime economic collapse.

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  • DoNotMindMe

    I think you need to learn some manners. 

  • DoNotMindMe

    No, he’s a reporter, which makes it worse. As a governor, Brewer has legislative power which makes her disagreements with the President more personal and there’s more at stake. Plus, she is a GOP governor and Obama is a Democrat President – again, more personal.

    Williams is a journalist (who is supposed to not take sides, you know – be UNBIASED), yet he is wagging his finger at Bush while perpetuating Democratic talking points.
    Nice attempt at spinning this….

  • Anonymous

    Bullshit….

  • Anonymous

    “ The infamous picture ofJan Brewer either horribly disrespecting the President ”
    You should respect someone no matter how terrible they are, because they have a certain title.

    Welcome to Big Government Land. This is the “progressive” future of humanity.

  • Anonymous

    This exchange was civil. Williams was making a point by pointing his finger and there was nothing testy about it. GW Bush was inarticulate but still came across as folksy. Obama is intolerant and if you disagree with him he won’t listen to you. He walks away while you’re speaking which I’ve never seen a president do before. Barack and Michelle Obama are rude people, even on camera when they’re exposed to the world. They have no clue as to how a President and First Lady should act. Teresa Heinz Kerry acted that way when her husband was running for president and it may have lost the election for John Kerry. But because the Obamas are black they get a pass on it. It’s not right.

  • Anonymous

    Three Shakespeares sounds like a mixed drink. He should have said three of Shakespeare’s works but Bush only knows Bushisms.

  • Anonymous

    And after doing the google on the interwebs he did the hokey pokey and turned himself around. That’s what it’s all about.

  • Anonymous

    Bush at about 0:40s in: “I’ve got an ekka lectic reading list”. Don’t you miss all of those Bushisms? It is so boring to have a literate-sounding president.

    Bush was no genius, but he couldn’t possibly have been as dumb as the tried to put on. Even a wealthy legacy couldn’t get through Yale if he were that dumb.

  • Anonymous

    Obama is no FDR or even Teddy but in a nutshell, he has reversed the economic freefall we were in when Bush left office, maybe not as fast as we wanted but the numbers don’t lie. He got Bin Laden as much as you hate that fact, it is a fact. And then there is this

    http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t106/OnlyObvious/GovtDocs/NationalDebt_Bush_vs_Obama.jpg

    Through F.Y. 2002-2009 Bush ran up a $5.07 trillion dollar deficit, under Obama even with projections through F.Y. 2017 Obama’s deficit is $1.44 trillion.

    I know your side hates facts, but there they are.

    Even on Obama’s worst day he is a million times better than Bush and that is just off the top of my head I could formulate a much more complete list if I needed to. Somehow I know I don’t need to. The right will continue to lie about this President while ignoring the failure that was the Bush Presidency.

  • Anonymous

    Really? He did things that a president is pretty well obligated to do out of respect for other presidents? He’s one class act.

    I see your point. That totally negates the difference between a high-level elected official that doesn’t answer to the executive branch getting in the president’s face on a tarmac and a journalist being a bit of a dick.

    Nice straw man, by the way. I almost bit on that one.

  • Anonymous

    So, would you say that Bush was equally deserving of his confrontation? If it proves hypocrisy, that necessarily makes the two equal.

  • ClarkFL

    Not physically, but symbolically they could be construed as the same thing. The whole point of this was to prove that the Obama/Brewer thing wasn’t some never-happened-before instance with the presidency. Lets all take the time to remember that Obama is just a man and not bigger than his office. He does need to treat governors with the same level of respect he wants for himself. Same goes for governors to him. 

  • ClarkFL

    True or not, there is a time and place for confrontation. Its most definitely not on the tarmac in camera view. If he didn’t like her book, then why not just write her a letter explaining why? Why not a telephone call? Dressing down people in public isn’t presidential. It looks more like insecurity.

  • Anonymous

    First, George Bush did not sign a 2009 budget into law, the dems held it over and Obama signed a porked up omnibus into law.  This omnibus had across the board spending increases that are increased yearly and being spent due to the fact that the democrats will….not….produce….a….budget.

    Obama also spent over half of the TARP funds, Bush spent around $257 billion before leaving office.  Two weeks prior to Obama’s oath of office, Obama requested the remaining funds to be released to him.to.be ready on day one.  Obama also spent what amounts to a trillion in Stimulous funds, including interest.  Then there was cash for clunkers, cash for mortgages, cash for caulking….on and on and on.

    To claim that he is only responsible for $1.44 trillion of the debt is lunacy.  He’s actually spent over 5 trillion in less than four years.

    He claimed, during his campaign that due to the Bush spending every man woman and child was responsible for $30,000…he now has us up to $48,000 and by November it will be over $50,000.  He called Bush unpatriotic for the spending, chutzpah, eh?   

    So, no budgets since Obama took office, the only budget Obama produced was shot down in the Senate, not one senator voted for it and you know Harry Reid will NOT put a budget together.  The House Repubs have handed Reid their budget every year since they took the House so don’t blame the Repubs for the three years of Obama’s out of control spending and pawning of $1.4 trillion of debt makes you look partisan hackery silly.

  • Anonymous

    No strawman, you were talking context and I provided it.  Your problem is that you fail to see the two leaders on equal footing.  She being the leader of the state, he being the leader of the 50, both being put there by the people, not as royalty, as employees.

    Being cheesed off by Brewer’s book and jumping her for it was not a dignified  way to begin his visit; he set the tone and it was not presidential. 

  • Anonymous

    Back on that phony liberal chant?  Give it up it was worn out years ago.  Hard to believe that some people want to prove to the world just how dumb they can be.  I know you know better than that, just don’t know why the libruls want to perpetuate a false meme. 

  • Anonymous

    You’re making excuses for the colossal failures of the Bush regime and I’m the dumb one?

    LOL!

  • Anonymous

    Brian Williams must be a racist like Jan Brewer.

  • Anonymous

     
    Obama physically attacked Governor Brewer when he roughly grabbed her by the upper arm.
     
    She should have planted a knee in his gonad area, but as he has none, would have been wasted energy.

  • Anonymous

    http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad158/FrankRob/FR_racecard.jpg

    “I’m white, and I’m a racist, so I want black women to abort their babies! Support Planned Parenthood!

    “I’m white, and I’m a racist, so I support Obama and democrats because they work hard to keep black people down.”

    “I’m black, and I hate white people. But I’m not a racist, because black people can’t be racists. It’s not the same.”

    “I’m black, but I’m a light-skinned black, so I’m better than dark-skinned blacks.”

    “I’m white, and I’m a Democrat, so I am as racist as can be!

  • http://www.occupywallst.org/ (CAR)

    Yes, a huge difference! So huge its backwards huge. It’s tiny. Miniscule as a matter of fact. Who the hel l cares. Man I gotta tell you, politics have gotten so bad that America’s most pressing issue, isn’t JOBS JOBS JOBS or The Economy, it’s “finger wagging”.

    Republicans are pathetic. I think its time for another book burning party.

  • Anonymous

    Brian Williams caught with his pants down…or…his finger up…or…do as I say, not as I do.

    Come on, we all know many on the left don’t play by the same “rules” they preach to those on the right.

  • Cecelia

    Jon,  perhaps if you picture Bret Baier or Christ Wallace essentially calling Pres. Obama a liar while they poked their finger in his chest, some outrage could surface.

    I imagine that Tommy Christopher (TM) would have already written several 15 paragraphed blogs siting every dog whistle and sign language of the “ism” variety.

    So try to forget who found the video and what president is being heinously disrespected, and his melanin level, and imagine an FNC reporter treating Pres. Obama  like this.

    It can’t be that hard.  It is the stuff of media wet dreams. .

  • Anonymous

    George simply didn’t know how to point for himself  -  requested assistance.

  • Anonymous

    YOU ARE A FOOL, A DAMN FOOL

  • Anonymous

    Sure , sure, sure… another liberal interpreting what happened, or was said because others just don’t understand.. After all it’s more important how Eli feels about what happened, than what we can all see..

  • Anonymous

    The 57 states is not ridiulous, .. it’s another example of liberals explaining what happened, just as Kerry’s comment about how soldiers end up in Iraq.. We could not take what we saw and heard, we needed a liberal to explain that whewt Kewrry said was not what he meant. Same here OBama talked about 60 states, 57 he’d been to, 1 more to go to, and Alaska and Hawaii that they wouldn’t let him go to… 10th graders do know that there are 50 states, not 60.  That is what he said, and you can’t excuse it away.. Maybe, just maybe those extra 10 states are where all those votes for Dems by dead people come from…

  • Anonymous

    NO his best friend is Reggie “luv” Love

  • Anonymous

    NO he’s  just a reporter, carrying the water for Obama, and the Dems..

  • Anonymous

    I believe that this was the same interview when Williams chastised President Bush for his “Patrician” upbringing. That would be akin to telling President Obama his must be a Muslim because his father and step father were Muslims. This is when I permanently turned off NBC news.  Watching last week’s debate, we learned that Williams would not allow audience reaction.  Williams is such a pantywaist jerk.   Ah, but he’s so pretty, he must be intelligent.

    Get him in front of President Obama, and it’s all kiss kiss kiss.  Because he knows that disagreeing with a black man is racist.  Just like black people, it is not possible for a pantywaist to be racist.  I know that must be written somewhere.

  • Anonymous

    Williams is a pompous little p….. Who is nothing but a water carrier for Obama. Talk about being disrespectful to a President.

  • Anonymous

    Brother, if getting an MBA from Harvard and a BA from Yale (Bush only scored 1200 on his SATs but somehow got in… hmmm, I wonder if his family’s connection to the government helped) and flying a plane is your idea of all it takes to be genius, then there are literally hundreds of thousands of geniuses in this country.

  • Anonymous

    I never said he was a genius. I am saying he isn’t stupid and achieved more than liberals give him credit for intellectually and academically. Again…..where is your MBA and fighter pilot training?

  • Anonymous

    You don’t understand the concept of a straw man, do you?

    It’s when you make up a similar, yet admittedly fictional, situation, apply the same rationale/logic to that situation, then purport that such a thing is comparable to something that actually happened.

    Which is exactly what you did.

    The context is that Williams is a journalist and Brewer is an elected official. Journalists are supposed to challenge elected officials. Elected officials aren’t supposed to get in fights with other elected officials that 42% of their constituents voted for when they themselves were only voted for by 55%.

    And we don’t know what Brewer and Obama said. There is no recording and they’re not talking (being politicians, I don’t buy what either says without a recording). If nothing else, she could have been the ‘bigger man’ and just not gotten into it.

    Note that at no point have I absolved Obama. I just have a problem with giving Brewer a pass because something similar happened to someone else in a completely different context at some time in the past.

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