Did Carl Cameron Sell Out Fox News To DailyKos? Not According To Cameron

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by Colby Hall | 8:20 pm, July 23rd, 2010

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Did Fox News reporter Carl Cameron sell out his own network to a DailyKos blogger? That’s what Daily Beast contributor Steve Friess would have you believe. In a story posted yesterday, Friess claimed to have overheard Cameron say that Fox News has both organized the Tea Party and overreached in their influence over the Shirley Sherrod scandal. Mediaite exclusively spoke to Cameron, who explained that much of what was reported was not only taken out of context, but overheard by someone eavesdropping on a private conversation.

First some background. Friess is described by The Daily Beast as “a veteran Vegas-based freelancer whose work appears in the New York Times, Newsweek, USA Today, the LA Times and many others.” In this specific piece, he reports:

Cameron, speaking to blogger Dante Atkins shortly after Atkins had been interviewed for a Fox segment about the Netroots event, nodded as Atkins repeated comments he made on camera that the Tea Party movement was largely organized by Fox News hosts like Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity.

“Tell me about it,” Cameron smirked.

As the conversation continued, Atkins, a Daily Kos front-pager, cited examples of Fox’s undue sway over events. Cameron then offered one of his own.

“The Sherrod case is an example of some at Fox News trying to have more influence than it probably should,” Cameron said.

It might be relatively interesting for an employee to complain about his or her employer, if it wasn’t such a commonly held practice by nearly every single employee in the world! But in this instance, its clear that Cameron wasn’t even guilty of that, since — more importantly — the specific quotes attributed to Cameron were not delivered to the reporter. Rather, they were over heard by Friess who was standing nearby listening in to a private conversation. Or as Friess describes:

Cameron told The Daily Beast Thursday night that this report takes his remarks out of context and that he was actually defending the integrity of Fox’s news division. He insisted this reporter did not hear the entire discussion, even though it began immediately after this reporter’s interview with Daily Kos blogger Atkins had concluded.

Or in other words, the conversation wasn’t between Cameron and Friess, but rather between Cameron and the Kos blogger. So by any explanation, its safe to say that the conversation was, in fact, taken out of context.

Cameron is hardly known as a partisan hack reporter — he’s well respected in Washington. In an exclusive interview with Mediaite, he took the high road, saying “this isn’t a surprise to me. This is what happens when you cover conventions like this.” Cameron added “It’s so silly that what they are doing, in attacking me, is exactly more to do with their obsession with Fox News.” Cameron summed up “Its the same thing with Shirley Sherrod. Taking comments totally out of context and not listening the meaning of what’s been actually said.” To be clear, Cameron wasn’t comparing himself to Sherrod, but rather the highly partisan environment in which we now find ourselves.

As for the Tea party Coverage, Cameron is proud of his coverage. “This is one of the most important stories in politics this year. I’m proud of it from a journalistic standpoint – not from an ideological one.” Adding, “I was reporting on this more than a year ago and has been way ahead of the pack including the NY Times and Washington Posy – before anyone even knew the factions that were causing the dissent, I was there reporting on it.”

To be fair, Cameron is not immune to some controversy with those who define themselves as left-of-center. In the 2004 Presidential election, Fox News apologized for a made-up web news article penned by Cameron that was critical of John Kerry. But critics of his right-wing bias will be disappointed to learn that he was also the first to report that the McCain camp expressed sincere frustration with Sarah Palin, sharing embarrassing details about her lack of knowledge about…well, a lot of stuff.

Sadly, we now find ourselves in a strange and post-modern world in which individuals/reporters/bloggers are first looking for evidence that supports their pre-existing opinions. So in the eyes of this reporter, if you aren’t somehow offending someone in how you are reporting the news, you probably aren’t doing your job.

Carl Cameron, Daily Beast, Daily Kos, Dante Atkins, Net Roots, Netroots, Steve Friess, The Daily Beast

http://www.nukethefridge.com MartiniShark

In other words, in order to condemn Fox news their critics resort to the tactics they accuse Fox of employing. Doing so without irony, of course.
Azarkhan

Carl Cameron was being naive if he thought he could have an innocent conversation with the snakes who are the Democrat netroots activists. When dealing with those vipers, one should wear a hazmat suit, and even then, maintain a safe distance.
Iris

Leave Carl Alone! He’s having a ahrd enough time trying to convince Roger Ailes (or fat bastard if you’ve ever seen him) to keep him on even though he’s aging. Apparently Roger has a hot young blond waiting in the wings (of course with ailes you never know if its male or female)
WideAwakeNow

This is muchado about nothing. You can’t get more fair and balanced than ‘Campaign’ Carl Cameron and still be human. If the left has resorted to attacking CARL CAMERON to make its point about Fox.. ..well, it speaks to the Fox critics’ desperation.
valkyrie101

I think any person’s private conversations, if uttered in a public place, are fair game. Though, their credibility is suspect. Not the first time something like this has happened.
notsofast

DailyKos is really the DailyLiar!
notsofast

Lets all remember how well the DailyKos breaks news stories:

Their biggest story as reprted by HP of all outlets!!!

“Its the wackiest rumor about Sarah Palin or any other politician so far this election. It’s making it’s way all through the internet. And of course it came from DailyKos.

Let’s hear from noted reporter ArcXIX, following up on story by the widely respected Inky99…

” Well, Sarah, I’m calling you a liar. And not even a good one. Trig Paxson Van Palin is not your son. He is your grandson. The sooner you come forward with this revelation to the public, the better.”

Yes, that’s right! Dailykos reported that SP’s son was really her daughter’s baby, even though, her daughter had a baby months later. And then the alien spaceship landed and ….
timzank

Iris said:
Leave Carl Alone! He’s having a ahrd enough time trying to convince Roger Ailes (or fat bastard if you’ve ever seen him) to keep him on even though he’s aging. Apparently Roger has a hot young blond waiting in the wings (of course with ailes you never know if its male or female)

You need to get some friends or try to find your family (I’m sure they left you) to help you.
Iris

tz, it sounds like you old farts need to find a sense of humor, maybe its under the scooter. I mean seriously did you ever see roger? fat bastards twin
murf

The Onion is more credible ..
roxsteady

How many journalist awards have they won over at fox? Any Peabody awards? That’s what I thought!
Azarkhan

Hey Roxy, what are you doing here so late?
Azarkhan

That got a thumbs down? LOL!

How about: Buddha was nice guy.
the real john t

roxsteady said:
How many journalist awards have they won over at fox?

Azarkhan said:
Hey Roxy, what are you doing here so late?

Why don’t you just answer her question?
Azarkhan

Not interested.
Azarkhan

Jesus is just alright with me.
Azarkhan

Santa Claus is a great guy.
Azarkhan

I love Hitler.
Azarkhan

Stalin sucks.
Azarkhan

Another leftist swine who believes in censorship:

Brian Ries, a writer for The Daily Beast, led the campaign to censor the Governor because he didn’t like her viewpoint that a mosque built on “hallowed ground” would be “a stab in the heart of the families of the victims” of 9-11. So instead of dealing with the issue itself, he did what all far Left yahoos do: he sought to shut her up by putting the “racist” label on her. Perhaps he picked up this antiquated antic from members of the Journolist group. (Just a thought.) He rallied the troops on his blog with the title, “Let’s Report Sarah Palin’s Facebook Rant for Being Hate Speech, Yes”

As a journalist, Mr. Ries should be committed to the expression of free speech, not the snuffing out of it. There is nothing hateful or racist in Governor Palin’s Facebook note. The idea that the multitudes of people who remember the pain of Ground Zero and oppose the building of a mosque there are responding out of anything other than the purest of motives is both dangerous and diabolical. Thinking of this nut, I am reminded of the Governor’s words as reported today by Jonathan Strong:

“There are some pretty sick puppies in the industry today. They really need help.”

C4P
tiredofbs

Azarkhan said:
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Stalin sucks.

There’s nothing left here on Mediaite to do but joke..
The last post I made asking a question,, all I got in response
from one of the regular staff(?) Left Wingers was:
“are those rug burns?”

Everything w/Lefties is in sexual content,& or gross lies & nonsense
(lose argument call u racist,homophobes) etc. Same Sh*t diff Web Addy…
This Site is now The MediaMatters/DailyKos Wannabe…

FORCES ALL GOOD people to lower themselves to that level,,It’s just not worth anything..

I have moved on,, I hope most Conservatives & Independents do the same
notsofast

Netroots”

These lib assholes just can’t help themselves. Guess who their guest speakers are?

Al Frankenstein- the guy who got elected by convicts, and everybody’s favorite self- proclaimed commie, Van Jones.
the real john t

Azarkhan said:
There is nothing hateful or racist in Governor Palin’s Facebook note.

AWWW!!! no. there is never anything hateful in Palins’ comments. Like telling people to reload and get ready or telling people in Florida they need to do Rep Grayson in. If you follow that bitch you’re as dumb as she is.
notsofast

EXCLUSIVE: House Democrat calls on Rep. Charles Rangel to resign
By Shane D’Aprile – 07/23/10 09:00 PM ET

In a major development, Rep. Betty Sutton (D-Ohio) on Friday night called on beleaguered Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) to resign.

Sutton’s statement comes one day after the House ethics committee charged the 80-year-old Democrat with multiple violations.

She must be a racist.
notsofast

Oh, no- here is another racist!!!

Judge scoffs at pre-emption argument in AZ lawsuit
July 23, 2010

It didn’t take long for federal judge Susan Bolton to zero in on the holes in the Obama administration’s argument in their lawsuit against Arizona and its new must-enforce policy on immigration violations. Bolton, a Democratic appointee, shot holes in the Department of Justice’s pre-emption argument immediately, and in a broader sense wondered why the federal government concerned itself at all over Arizona’s get-tough policy on illegal immigration:

“Why can’t Arizona be as inhospitable as they wish to people who have entered or remained in the United States?” U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton asked in a pointed exchange with Deputy Solicitor General Edwin S. Kneedler. Her comment came during a rare federal court hearing in the Justice Department’s lawsuit against Arizona and Gov. Jan Brewer (R).

Bolton, a Democratic appointee, also questioned a core part of the Justice Department’s argument that she should declare the law unconstitutional: that it is “preempted” by federal law because immigration enforcement is an exclusive federal prerogative.

“How is there a preemption issue?” the judge asked. “I understand there may be other issues, but you’re arguing preemption. Where is the preemption if everybody who is arrested for some crime has their immigration status checked?”
the real john t

Then you’ve got notsosmart. I’ve read through the threads and he’s been on here most of the day and night, on a Friday. He must lead one exiting life. Of course him weighing 450lbs and can’t fit into a car might have something to do with it.
notsofast

the real john t said:
I’ve read through the threads and he’s been on here most of the day and night, on a Friday.

Johnt, please stop stalking me.

And as far as weight, you are so fat , your car has stretchmarks on it.
notsofast

How can ya tell if Johnt is on Mediaite?

All the red down thumbs!
the real john t

notsofast said:
It didn’t take long for federal judge Susan Bolton to zero in on the holes

Oh Mercy! Here is were little notsosmart got his C&P from:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2557710/posts

He might as well C&P something from Brietbitch.
rorschach

John t is a less interesting Iris.
notsofast

the real john t said:
Oh Mercy! Here is were little notsosmart got his C&P from:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2557710/posts

He might as well C&P something from Brietbitch.

Ah, wrong, but do try to refute it Johnt.

I will wait for your non-responsive response.!
rorschach

the real john t said:
He must lead one exiting life.

As far as exiting life, Friday seems like a good night for you .
the real john t

notsofast said:
How can ya tell if Johnt is on Mediaite?
All the red down thumbs!

OH! Is that what you worry about, is thumbs up or down? You are a shallow little man.

rorschach said:
John t is a less interesting Iris.

Then quit responding to me idiot.
notsofast

the real john t said:
OH! Is that what you worry about, is thumbs up or down? You are a shallow little man.

Where did I say I worried about it.

I await your non-responsive response.
the real john t

notsofast said:
Ah, wrong, but do try to refute it Johnt.

Did you ever here of google? You can look up where a comment comes from. Maybe you should try it some time. That’s if you’re smart enough, which I doubt.
notsofast

Johnt, ya better go to Vegas to the Netroots convention- they have that commie Van Jones there, and I’m sure they have members of the commie union SEIU working the event. You and those union thugs can go out and beat up some conservative black people.
the real john t

notsofast said:
Where did I say I worried about it.

Hell, you bring it up every night.
notsofast

the real john t said:
Did you ever here of google? You can look up where a comment comes from. Maybe you should try it some time. That’s if you’re smart enough, which I doubt.

As I said in my prior post:

try to refute it Johnt.”

“I will wait for your non-responsive response.!”

You are so predictable.
notsofast

the real john t said:
Hell, you bring it up every night.

Prove it!

“I will wait for your non-responsive response.!”
Integr8d

Ron Paul’s Campaign for Liberty organized the Tea Party. The neo-cons subverted it with the Tea Party Express. They figured, correctly, that most people wouldn’t know the difference. And they’re trying to rebrand themselves as small government (which is antithesis to a new-con/progressive), while maintaining their foreign policy message.
the real john t

notsofast said:
You and those union thugs can go out and beat up some conservative black people.

AWWWWW!!! Look at that. Notosmart is jealous because I’m retired from a UNION job with a good pension and he has to work the rest of his life at McDonalds.
notsofast

try to refute it Johnt.”

“I will wait for your non-responsive response.!”

You are so predictable.

the real john t said:
Hell, you bring it up every night.

Prove it!

“I will wait for your non-responsive response.!”

I’m waiting johnt.
notsofast

the real john t said:
’m retired from a UNION

So you admit you are an old fart.

LOL
the real john t

notsofast said:
So you admit you are an old fart.

I’m not even old enough to collect SS. So suck on that little man.
notsofast

johnt- Look at what Barry is doing!

North Korea Warns of Nuclear Response to Naval Exercises

North Korea said it would counter U.S. and South Korean joint naval exercises with “nuclear deterrence” after the Obama administration said the government in Pyongyang shouldn’t take any provocative steps.

North Korea will “legitimately counter with their powerful nuclear deterrence the largest-ever nuclear war exercises to be staged by the U.S. and the South Korean puppet forces,” the National Defense Commission said, according to the Korean Central News Agency.

Gees, johnny, remember when Barry said people would love us if he got elected?

Those NKorean’s must be racists, eh?
notsofast

As I said in my prior post:

try to refute it Johnt.”

I’m still waiting, johnny boy!
the real john t

notsofast said:
johnt- Look at what Barry is doing!

I’m waiting for you to give links to where you’re finding all this bullshit. Do you know anything about plaguerism?
tws258

rorschach said:
As far as exiting life, Friday seems like a good night for you .

Lets hope it’s soon.
notsofast

As I said in my prior post:

try to refute it Johnt.”

I’m still waiting, johnny boy!
the real john t

notsofast said:
I’m still waiting, johnny boy!

OH! So I ask you for proof of something, but you can’t give it, but you think I should jump through your hoops. Typical RW asshole.
notsofast

the real john t said:
Do you know anything about plaguerism?

Since you are asking for links, it’s obvious that the words are not mine, johnny boy, so how can that be plagiarism?
notsofast

Don’t tell me, johnny boy, this source is a RW source that can’t be trusted, right?

I know your game, you child.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-23/north-korea-claims-innocence-over-sinking-of-south-s-ship-won-t-apologize.html
notsofast

And johnny, boy:

try to refute it Johnt.”

“I will wait for your non-responsive response.!”

I’m waiting!
notsofast

The BBC, johnny boy!

North Korea warns of nuclear ‘sacred war’
USS George Washington in South Korea 21.7.10 The USS George Washington has arrived in South Korea for the exercises

North Korea says it will use its “nuclear deterrent” in response to joint US-South Korean military exercises this weekend.

Pyongyang was ready to launch a “retaliatory sacred war”, the state-run Korean Central News Agency (KINA) said, quoting defense officials.

johnny boy, your favorite- MSNBC!!!!!!

N. Korea warns of ‘sacred war’
Country responds to ‘reckless’ military exercises by South, U.S.

SEOUL — North Korea said on Saturday it would begin a “sacred war” against the United States and South Korea at “any time necessary,” based on its nuclear deterrent, in response to “reckless” military exercises by the allies.
notsofast

And johnny, boy:

try to refute it Johnt.”

“I will wait for your non-responsive response.!”

I’m waiting!
the real john t

notsofast said:
johnt- Look at what Barry is doing!

Why don’t you read the whole article you little dumbass?
rorschach

the real john t said:
Then quit responding to me idiot.

I wasn’t responding to you john t , I was commenting about you . Aside from lamely trying to insult notsofast , you haven’t said anything.
notsofast

try to refute it Johnt.”

“I will wait for your non-responsive response.!”

I’m waiting!
notsofast

the real john t said:
Why don’t you read the whole article you little dumbass?

Tone! Tone, johnny boy, tone!

try to refute it Johnt.”

“I will wait for your non-responsive response.!”

I’m waiting!
tws258

john t is still planning on exiting life tonight right ?
notsofast

tws258 said:
john t is still planning on exiting life tonight right ?

Promises, promises!

LOL
the real john t

tws258 said:
john t is still planning on exiting life tonight right ?

OH Look! We have the lttle Misses chiming in.
the real john t

notsofast said:
try to refute it Johnt.”

What do you want me to refute?
notsofast

Did ya hear what that unbiased MSNBC journalist host Ed Schultz said at the Netroots Convention?

“I busted my ass for Obama. I mean, I took my radio show on the road. I did town halls. Talked to the people. I turned the microphone over to the working folk of America. I asked them what they thought about healthcare, what they thought about the economy, what we thought about staying in wars forever. I went after it. And President Obama, he don’t come to Ed. He goes to Bret Baier on Fox News in my time slot. Now, my show’s gonna be okay. But if you were in my position, would you say, “What’s that all about?” Loyalty.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/07/23/ed-schultz-im-sorry-becks-going-blind-its-travesty-he-wont-see-country-hes-trying-destroy#ixzz0uZSYMnwv
tws258

Which member of ” The Village People ” were you ? Not that there’s anything wrong with that john t.
the real john t

Newsbusters. That says it all. Do you RWers ever read anything besides a radical RW site?
notsofast

try to refute it Johnt.”

“I will wait for your non-responsive response.!”

I’m waiting!

YOU ARE NOT RELEVANT
the real john t

tws258 said:
Which member of ” The Village People ” were you ? Not that there’s anything wrong with that john t.

AWWW Look!!! The litlle princess chimed in again.

notsofast said:
try to refute it Johnt.”

Tell me what you want refuted, idiot.
tws258

the real john t said:
AWWW Look!!! The litlle princess chimed in again.

For a one trick troll , I would have thought that you would be better at it .
the real john t

tws258 said:
For a one trick troll , I would have thought that you would be better at it .

Little fella, you should go back under the rock you crawled out from under. I don’t think you’ll make it in the big leagues.
Big_F-ing_Deal

Good for Carl.
I could always tell by the look on his face and the hesitation in his voice that he was not entirely comfortable with the questions that were being thrown at him by the “opinion” crowd at Fox news. Even though HE always kept it fair I am relieved he thinks some go too far.

I have a new found respect for the man. :-)
yweston

He Must Resign Immediately!!
murf

Damn , I love reading the threads that JT comments on . Lol gotta love the dude .
Some_Dude

Ex-FNC employees have already spilled the beans. It doesn’t matter. It has been demonstrated that disconfirming facts empower the willful ignorance of conservatives.

We’re in a terrible place as a nation, set back decades by these sensationalist yellow “journalists”. It’s sad in that this isn’t America, and yet those that so vehemently wave our flag use nationalism as their primary tactic. And the discourse, because of this, is so hateful and unproductive.

I feel so bad for conservatives that are out of a job and seriously hurting, and yet will vote against their own interests time and again. I want to help them, I want them to help themselves. And yet they take marching orders from FNC and Glenn Beck – the people least concerned with their welfare and future. It’s terrible.
murf

-11 reasons to vote FOR democrats in November -

Must see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYfGCMORVoY&feature=youtube_gdata
sarainitaly

the real john t said:
Did you ever here of google? You can look up where a comment comes from. Maybe you should try it some time. That’s if you’re smart enough, which I doubt.

It just cracks me up when people call other people dumb, while proving their own shortcomings….
Azarkhan

“I feel so bad for conservatives…I want to help them” Some_Dude

Commit suicide.
timzank

yweston said:
He Must Resign Immediately!!

You mean Obama right?
TfT

And in other news, Kyra Phillips and John Roberts (you know the sloppy seconds guy) think that bloggers should be shut down.

John Roberts has been revealed as a member of journolist (presumably given his “Rev Wright free zone stuff”) and is just fine with a group of libbies lying to the public in order to support a Presidential campaign.

Too funny.
Azarkhan

LAS VEGAS, NV — While the federal government sinks deeper into debt than any time since World War II, former White House “green jobs” adviser Anthony Van Jones said it was time to stop worrying about budget deficits and pressure Washington to take more money from American businesses to fund larger social and infrastructure projects.
____
WASHINGTON – New estimates from the White House on Friday predict the budget deficit will reach a record $1.47 trillion this year. The government is borrowing 41 cents of every dollar it spends.
The new estimates paint a grim unemployment picture as the economy experiences a relatively jobless recovery. The unemployment rate, presently averaging 9.5 percent, would average 9 percent next year under the new estimates.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100723/ap_on_bi_ge/us_budget_deficit_2
Dave Richards

Why does it appear that this johnt clown spends his time here defending his ignorance rather than commenting on the subject at hand? Is this the same johnt that got his ass kicked off of one blog site because his rudeness and bad language?
timzank

AZ,

“The unemployment rate, presently averaging 9.5 percent, would average 9 percent next year under the new estimates.”

I have news for the experts, that is a woefully innacurate estimate. It’s gonna go higher and last much longer than these yutz’s are saying.

They seem to think we aren’t actually out here living it.
Azarkhan

You are probably right. That is just the national average. In many states it is or will be much higher.
valkyrie101

Azarkhan said:
You are probably right. That is just the national average. In many states it is or will be much higher.

And the jobs continue to be exported to foreign countries by corporations that make more money by decreasing their manufacturing costs by manufacturing in countries that have no pollution regulations, or where workers can be paid slave wages.
felixw

Sure, Fox organized the tea party. And give them credit for orchestrating thousands of events, and then getting a million or so Fox employees to masquerade as real citizens. And that guy taking tickets out front was obviously Glenn Beck wearing a false beard…..

Check back tomorrow for the next breaking story: Fox News was behind 9-11. Tune in to MSNBC for all the details.
Grammie

Dave Richards said:
Why does it appear that this johnt clown spends his time here defending his ignorance rather than commenting on the subject at hand? Is this the same johnt that got his ass kicked off of one blog site because his rudeness and bad language?

I know of two sites, J$P and ICN, that he has been banned from. I also know of one site, News Hounds, where he is much revered and beloved.

Ummm, what does that say about him?
lanquihue

the real john t said:
Newsbusters. That says it all. Do you RWers ever read anything besides a radical RW site?

john t, usually I offer well thought out and accurate commentary on the subjects poses by the Mediaite staff, but where you’re concerned, I usually just insult you because you’re a lowly sperm bank who licks the cocks of cheese infested vagabonds. (this makes you an “average” liberal) My question, in all seriousness, is, do you read the Kos? And if you do, do you take any of what’s written there seriously? I really do want to know.
notsofast

Dave Richards said:
Why does it appear that this johnt clown spends his time here defending his ignorance rather than commenting on the subject at hand? Is this the same johnt that got his ass kicked off of one blog site because his rudeness and bad language?

Johnt has yet to comment on an article. He always comes in attacking someone and then displays his ignorance for all to see.

After all, he is the one who said:

1. No one has ever been jailed for tax evasion

2. Every salaried employee in the same job-title in a company gets paid the same amount
The Real Royal King

I scarcely countenance the ethically-challenged Kampain Karl Kameron, but I suspect it may well understand that a seismic shift occurred on Wednesday, when Breitbart and the FOX Network taught us two very clear lessons: no legitimacy ought to be assigned to rightist advoccy journalism and those who scream reverse discrimination are frauds and the perpetrators of great frauds. I tend to think O’Reilly may understand what happened, perhaps even the ufortunate Beckerhead. Hannity, Van Susteren, the Douchey and Kelly, of course, remain singularly clueless or are wallowing om abjet denial. So be it. Pardigm shifts are tough.

Irony: Bill O’Reilly, on the FOX Network:: “The children of America have seen with their own eyes that liars can win and cheaters can prosper.”
The Real Royal King

Grammie said:
I know of two sites, J$P and ICN, that he has been banned from. I also know of one site, News Hounds, where he is much revered and beloved. Ummm, what does that say about him?

What does this have to do with the subject of this post?

Irony: Bill O’Reilly, on the FOX Network:: “The children of America have seen with their own eyes that liars can win and cheaters can prosper.”
notsofast

The Real Royal King said:
What does this have to do with the subject of this post?

What does what johnt posts have anything to do with the subject of discussion? NOTHING!

I’m so glad that the deplorable miscreant johnt can count you as a friend and intellectual equal.
michiganruth

“the Washington Posy”? I love that! sometimes typos are even better than the stories.
timzank

valkyrie101 said:
And the jobs continue to be exported to foreign countries by corporations that make more money by decreasing their manufacturing costs by manufacturing in countries that have no pollution regulations, or where workers can be paid slave wages.

Send a thank you card to Dems and unions for the lack of manufacturing jobs, they’ve done a wonderful job together killing free enterprise.
Tom Rowan

Carl Cameron cried on TV when he reported on Obama’s innaguration in Chicago.

It was as if Carl had just witnessed Lincoln sign the Emancipation Proclaimation.

Why would Cameron be that shallow to let the color of someone’s skin and their success move him to tears in modern day America?

My thought is that Cameron is guilty of harboring faux white guilt. My thought is that Cameron buys into the notion that whites have been oppressing blacks despite factual reality.

As for Cameron’s protests of innocence in this matter.

“I did not have sex with that woman.”

“I smoked a joint, but I did not inhale.”

“Sure, I sat in Reverend Wright’s pews every Sunday for twenty years, but I heard nothing!”

“That is not the Reverend Wright I know.”

Maybe Cameron will get emotional and cry over these phony denials. Maybe just like he gets emotional over the color of our elected officials, he agrees that FOX is an oppressive evil force of white people….

You know, just like MSNBC.
Cubby

The immature, ad hominem attacks by the right-wingers on this site are out of control, especially considering that conservatives are the first ones to complain about the “hate” on the left. “you’re a lowly sperm bank who licks the cocks of cheese infested vagabonds”? Jesus christ, it’s like a goddamned middle school playground in here.

And also, if you don’t think Fox News was instrumental in starting the “tea party movement” you are simply kidding yourselves. Think of the outrage if, during the Iraq war protests, MSNBC had all of its major anchors stationed at the events, with specialized graphics and gushing coverage? (And before some idiot says, ‘that’s exactly what happened!’ um, no. It didn’t.)
Permatiltx

notsofast said:
Lets all remember how well the DailyKos breaks news stories:

Their biggest story as reprted by HP of all outlets!!!

“Its the wackiest rumor about Sarah Palin or any other politician so far this election. It’s making it’s way all through the internet. And of course it came from DailyKos.

Let’s hear from noted reporter ArcXIX, following up on story by the widely respected Inky99…

” Well, Sarah, I’m calling you a liar. And not even a good one. Trig Paxson Van Palin is not your son. He is your grandson. The sooner you come forward with this revelation to the public, the better.”

Yes, that’s right! Dailykos reported that SP’s son was really her daughter’s baby, even though, her daughter had a baby months later. And then the alien spaceship landed and ….

I do get confused quite a bit here. So, let me ask a few questions to try to clear things up. Do you honestly think that the job of the Daily Kos is to break news stories? I looked up the Daily Kos, it was the first time I went and I looked it up and down to see if it was a news site. It’s a blog, don’t know if you saw that. Not really responsible for breaking news.

Why are you calling the Daily Kos a liar in comments where the Daily Kos didn’t really do anything here? I know dissenting opinion = lies in your playbook, but they didn’t report on this story, they didn’t even comment on the story. Friess, an actual journalist, overheard something and reported on it. But he didn’t fact check. Big no-no. But is the Daily Beast a news site or a blog site? Either way, why didn’t the lying Daily Kos post the story. They might have, I had trouble finding it. I know you don’t like putting up links for people to find things, but if you know of the story, at least point me in the right direction.

We haven’t talked in a while. Was waiting for a reply from my last post. Could I reprint it on this message board, maybe we could continue on here?

Okay, all questions. More opinion than fact, but I am dissenting, therefore, liar. I get it.
Permatiltx

notsofast said:
Did ya hear what that unbiased MSNBC journalist host Ed Schultz said at the Netroots Convention?

“I busted my ass for Obama. I mean, I took my radio show on the road. I did town halls. Talked to the people. I turned the microphone over to the working folk of America. I asked them what they thought about healthcare, what they thought about the economy, what we thought about staying in wars forever. I went after it. And President Obama, he don’t come to Ed. He goes to Bret Baier on Fox News in my time slot. Now, my show’s gonna be okay. But if you were in my position, would you say, “What’s that all about?” Loyalty.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/07/23/ed-schultz-im-sorry-becks-going-blind-its-travesty-he-wont-see-country-hes-trying-destroy#ixzz0uZSYMnwv

Yeah, imagine that coming from an unbiased MSNBC journalist host who…wait, I looked up a couple of biographies on Ed and the what not. They call him a talk show personality, that he’s recognized as one of the most liberal of talk show hosts. He started his career as a sportscaster (not a journalist) then moved on to talk radio (as a host, not a journalist). In fact, his show was the highest ranking of any liberal talk show radio host back in 2008. He was a guest pundit on various shows (including Larry King) where on April 1, 2009 (April Fool’s Day, ha!) he started as the host of The Ed Show on MSNBC. He has declared himself a lefty. The blind comment is certainly distasteful. Sorry, he went there. But anyway what was my point, oh right, no one, including himself has called him an unbiased MSNBC journalist, except for you. Maybe someone somewhere has, I haven’t found it yet, if you have found it, let me know. If not, then, to play your own game on you, you, sir, are a liar!
Icanadd

I would remind Fox News that their job is to REPORT the news, not to CREATE the news. I would remind those that watch a network engaged in attempting to influence public opinion to check their facts before you accept as fact. This especially goes for Glenn Beck. A good source to check for truth (FOR BOTH LEFT AND RIGHT agendas) www,politifact.com. Check out the findings on Glenn Beck. It may surprise you.
Sunnyr

I don’t know too many Conservatives who trust this skinny, smirking DOLT, Carl Cameron. He spread some smarmy gossip about Sarah Palin a couple years ago and his been on my S-List ever since. He’s a dyed in the wool LEFTIST from one of the most liberal states in the union. I take whatever he says with a grain of salt.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Alfred-J-Lemire/100000045361210 Alfred J. Lemire

In another thread, also late at night, I wrote a long refutation of the baseless claim that Sarah Palin had written a Facebook that was racist and expressed hate. Her post on the mosque planned for the Ground Zero vicinity was neither. People like Johnt should read it. One person also claimed her post was an attack on freedom of religion. it was not.

Posts like Johnt’s sadden. He should be capable of better. Rather than respond to a claim that a Palin post was not racist or hateful, he made a weak sarcastic jab, which, I think, proved neither racism not hatred and, I suspect, grossly misunderstood the points she had made.

As to Fox News, people confuse the news people with the opinion people, who play roughly the same role at Fox News Channel that most prime-time programs do at ABC, CBS, NBC, and PBS. No doubt the opinion people promoted the Tea Party; I don’t recall the news side, e.g., the Special Report hour, doing anything other than reporting the news aspect of Tea Party activity. And it was a big story of 2009, with many large, well-attended, and well-behaved mass meetings. (Glenn Beck has said that TIME ran a 2009-in-pictures treatment without a single Tea Party picture.)

Opinion people rushed to use the Shirley Sherrod tape likely because the NAACP had urged the Tea Party to get rid of racists in its ranks; the opinion people knew enough Tea Party folks to know that racism had anything to do . One could ask the NAACP of the same. Mr. Beck never touched the item. And, one understands from Howard Kurtz, “After a news meeting Monday afternoon, an e-mail directive was sent to the news staff in which Fox Senior Vice President Michael Clemente said: ‘Let’s take our time and get the facts straight on this story. Can we get confirmation and comments from Sherrod before going on-air. Let’s make sure we do this right.’ ”

I don’t blame the opinion people, who ran what they had after the resignation had occurred. And the news side was circumspect. I suspect that Mr. Cameron was trying mostly to differentiate the news side from the opinion side in his conversation. Many on the left lump the two together and further misunderstand or falsify what the opinion people say, most notably Glenn Beck. I have yet to hear anyone in the opinion programs say anything as nasty, vicious, phony, and unjustifiable as a crack that Eric Engberg, a propagandist for CBS News, said about Newt Gingrich in 1995. I hope they never sink so low.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Alfred-J-Lemire/100000045361210 Alfred J. Lemire

Rushed again. in the fourth paragraph, I wrote, “to know that racism had anything to do.” I should have written, “to know that racism was not part of the reason why people joined the Tea Party and few people demonstrated racism. Opposition to the President and his policies have nothing to do with the fact that he is half-black.”

I was trying to cut out words and revise them. Some on the left have seen signs, but they were few and further, one questions whether the signs’ creators were part of the Tea Party movement. (I suspect that a fear or expectation of planted signs, intended to harm the right, and which the news media would emphasize, has led Glenn Beck to bar them from a gathering he plans in Washington in August.)
http://none pyrope

OK, so I didn’t read ALL the post made by the usual gang of liberals but I did not see ONE remark made in defense of kos.
shootfromthehip

Here is one: Daily Kos is a great website filled with actual wonkish policy information and intelligent, nuanced analysis.

In other words, the opposite of tea tard website such as “Gateway Pundit.”
Cubby

Alfred, educated people like yourself who try to defend people like Palin or Beck are the saddest people in the universe.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Alfred-J-Lemire/100000045361210 Alfred J. Lemire

Cubby, Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck can and ought to be defended, especially against false charges. The AP falsely described her “death panel” metonymy from August 7, 2009 and people recently falsely labeled her recent Facebook entry on the undesirability of a mosque’s location. Azarkhan correctly asserted that there “is nothing hateful or racist in Governor Palin’s Facebook note.”

The entry is at http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-palin/an-intolerable-mistake-on-hallowed-ground/411073718434

I challenge anyone to find the racism and the hate in her comments. Not there.
jjpeditor

Wow that “Fox apologizes for Cameron on Kerry” was perfect. I guess the reason they had to apologize is that Cameron forgot to note it was a humor piece and IT SEEMED SO ACCURATE ABOUT KERRY!