“calling homosexuality “a biological mistake.””

Anyone must admit that if you have the desires of a female and the sex organs of a male, biology went haywire somewhere.

“made it to primetime tonight thanks to CNN’s Rick Sanchez”

If you have no viewers, it doesn’t matter.

“We’re done with all this politically correct BS!!! I hate niggers and spics and the damn Ay Rab sand monkeys two!!!”

I mean, there’s a difference between political correctness (i.e. African-american vs. black, undocumented worker vs. illegal immigrant) and outright racism (i.e. the above made up quote). The GOP is doing its best to vanquish that line in order to rile up its older, conservative, southern, rural, uneducated, evangelical white base.

And yes, the Dems have played the race card too much since Obama got elected. That doesn’t mean we should ignore real racism. Ask the aforementioned generic GOP candidate what group is most responsible for the ills of the country, and a large enough minority would probably answer A.) illegals B.) Black welfare queens.

Then, of course, they’d recite their story about how they were in the grocery store just last night behind 4 illegals/blacks who couldn’t speak English and had $10,000 in food stamps with 17 newborns and then drove off in brand new Bentley’s.

It’s sad that the GOP is going so far out of their way to disgust moderate voters. I agree with the GOP economically for the most part, its just my hands aren’t strong enough to hold my nose as hard as necessary to vote for generic GOP candidates. Hopefully someone like Daniels emerges in 2012 so I can actually have a real choice. Unfortunately, I doubt it.

And yes, I realize this has nothing to do with the article. I just hate to see, in a 2-party system, 1 party trying to offend the sensibilities of the real silent majority, which is increasingly becoming independent centrists like myself.

Okay they were both screaming it. Would it have been any different if we were yelling cracker, cracker, cracker?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63M34s8afbo

wow…that lady is fucking crazy.

The most misleading headline I have ever seen on Mediaite. Shameful.

That’s a really good job on the misleading headline Frances. She never went on a tirade, and she most certainly never called anyone a nigger. She makes a really good point of how that word is used on HBO, just watch a Katt Williams stand up routine…..There is a huge difference in her repeating what is said on HBO (iting examples) and calling someone that name. Listen to the audio posters……don’t go by the headline (as always)

Dr. Laura (who I find annoying) didn’t call anyone a nigger. To imply she did is shameful.

Also, I don’t have any Asian friends. Seriously. I live in Idaho where there just aren’t many. So if one of my buddies was to marry an Asian lady I might be curious from time time to time as to how the asian culture might view a certain issue. I wouldn’t be racist in being curious. And if my friend and his wife didn’t like getting those sorts of questions then they should have thought about that in the first place.

Jonathan Rodrigues said:
wow…that lady is fucking crazy.

yeah the caller was crazy….

Dr. Laura was not being racist. . Mediaite has become Huffington-lite with exaggerated misleading headlines and race obessed stories.

Publius219 said:
“We’re done with all this politically correct BS!!! I hate niggers and spics and the damn Ay Rab sand monkeys two!!!” I mean, there’s a difference between political correctness (i.e. African-american vs. black, undocumented worker vs. illegal immigrant) and outright racism (i.e. the above made up quote). The GOP is doing its best to vanquish that line in order to rile up its older, conservative, southern, rural, uneducated, evangelical white base. And yes, the Dems have played the race card too much since Obama got elected. That doesn’t mean we should ignore real racism. Ask the aforementioned generic GOP candidate what group is most responsible for the ills of the country, and a large enough minority would probably answer A.) illegals B.) Black welfare queens. Then, of course, they’d recite their story about how they were in the grocery store just last night behind 4 illegals/blacks who couldn’t speak English and had $10,000 in food stamps with 17 newborns and then drove off in brand new Bentley’s. It’s sad that the GOP is going so far out of their way to disgust moderate voters. I agree with the GOP economically for the most part, its just my hands aren’t strong enough to hold my nose as hard as necessary to vote for generic GOP candidates. Hopefully someone like Daniels emerges in 2012 so I can actually have a real choice. Unfortunately, I doubt it. And yes, I realize this has nothing to do with the article. I just hate to see, in a 2-party system, 1 party trying to offend the sensibilities of the real silent majority, which is increasingly becoming independent centrists like myself.

why don’t you post your rant on a relevant article?

If you were going to go with a misleading headline, you should have gone all the way and edit the video. There is nothing wrong with what she said and in the context of how she said it. I’m Puerto Rican and white AND black people think I am mexican and ask me about Arizona as if I represent the whole latin race. I give them MY opinion and although it’s a bit misguided, I don’t charge them with racism.

I don’t like dr. laura, but if she had said “cracker, cracker, cracker” no one would be talking about it tonight.

As it is, Sanchez talked about it and Anderson is tweeting about it so chances are he will lead with the story because most of his stories this week have been race based and it fits right into his agenda. As I recall, AC spent very little time on King Shabazz’s racist rant and he never did go back to Sherrod’s husband’s racist comments again either.

Dr. Laura is right!

Put a fork in her she is done.I can’t remember the last time anyone gave a shit what this dumbass racist said since she bashed Gays as having a medical problem.Only upside you can find Dr Laura topless photos on the internet!!She can now join Andy Breitbart in there new jobs “would you like to supersize your order?”

FM: “Dr. Laura’s rant made it to primetime tonight thanks to CNN’s Rick Sanchez…”

That’s like saying it made it to primetime on The Golf Channel.

HA HA HA. Dr. Laura ” Burned” that caller! (Just have to love it, and her!) The N word is not only used by blacks now. i see all these white kids calling each other that now. LOL Talk about a generation gap. Thats something I’ll never understand. That and Playing music with the bass so high you can hear the spot-welds popping loose on the deck lid of their car….

This is ridiculous. Mediaite loses all credibility with this title, Frances.

You fail.

chucken said:
Put a fork in her she is done.I can’t remember the last time anyone gave a shit what this dumbass racist said since she bashed Gays as having a medical problem.Only upside you can find Dr Laura topless photos on the internet!!She can now join Andy Breitbart in there new jobs “would you like to supersize your order?”

7 million listeners on 250 affiliates….that’s a lotta listeners dumbass.

I bet all you tired Right Wing losers are peeing your pants waiting for the network morning shows cause this will be a wildfire tomorrow and your mentally deranged messiahs beckerhead and the oxycotin addict will be forced to tone down the stupid spewing from their mouths, HA, HA, HA

It’s pretty sad that Mediaite would rip off Media Matters, who broke the story, without giving them credit.

Face it, “Dr” Laura is just plain evil.

Iris , Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Have you been eating shrooms again ?

Aw Smurf, look at you tryin to be “hip”, HA, HA , HA

Don’t blame Dr. Laura, this post is by the deranged Glynnis. There must be something wrong with her ears.

No tirade or rant. Nothing to apoligize for. Dr. Laura will be on the air tomorrow and for many years to come.

Burnnotice said:
HA HA HA. Dr. Laura ” Burned” that caller! (Just have to love it, and her!) The N word is not only used by blacks now. i see all these white kids calling each other that now. LOL Talk about a generation gap. Thats something I’ll never understand. That and Playing music with the bass so high you can hear the spot-welds popping loose on the deck lid of their car….

In regards to the generational thing, there’s a difference between “nigger” and “nigga”. Sounds stupid probably, but there is. “Nigga” is used by rappers/comedians. “Nigger” by old people/racists.

And as always, to quote The Wire, without context you really don’t have much of anything. You can’t say “You’re such a stupid nigga”, but nigga can be used in some circumstances by non-blacks, although mostly to other non-blacks.

Nigger is pretty much unacceptable altogether except in a discussion about the word itself, like this.

““Nigga” is used by rappers/comedians. “Nigger” by old people/racists.” Publius219

Publius, I had no idea. You are one smart, hip motherfucker. Anyway, sign me up for “Nigger”.

“Nigga” and “Nigger” are synonymous. You’re just applying a double standard.

Come on, Mediaite, you’re better than effing Media Matters. I’m not a Dr. Laura fan at all. In fact, I can’t stand her. But, that wasn’t a racist rant. Not at all. She was quoting black comics. And, god help me, she’s right. Every other word, n-word, n-word, n-word. And, the term isn’t “Breitbarting”, no matter how hard you try to make it so. The accurate term is Media Mattering or MMing to describe purposely taking people out of context in order to smear them. That’s What. They. Do.

we have a lot to learn from iris stop being mean to iris

“we have a lot to learn from iris”

You’re right. After reading her rants, I find myself missing Roxy in the worst way.

Iris said:
I bet all you tired Right Wing losers are peeing your pants waiting for the network morning shows cause this will be a wildfire tomorrow and your mentally deranged messiahs beckerhead and the oxycotin addict will be forced to tone down the stupid spewing from their mouths, HA, HA, HA

This may make a big story on msnbc but any thinking person that listens to that audio will point out the obvious. Ever see a Katt Williams performance?

Dr. Laura’s Racist Tirade:”

Really? Why didn’t ya include it in that audio clip?

Some thoughts:

It was the caller who brought up the use of the “n” word- Not Laura, and Laura was pointing out the typical lib hypocrisy of “if you belong to a group, you can use the offensive words pertaining to that group.”

And again, suddenly to libs, “context” is not important; just the word is. ( See Shirley Sherrod debacle.)

But in the end, Laura was wrong- but not for using the “n” word.

She was wrong because a person was calling asking for her help in a situation where she felt uncomfortable and hurt by comments made by her husband’s friends and was getting resentful toward her husband for ignoring the comments. Irrespective of her color, the question was how should the caller handle this situation?

Both got carried away with their personal beliefs on race relations instead of Laura addressing how the caller could best express her feelings to her husband and his friends. Perhaps the caller was over sensitive; she didn’t give any examples of racism other than saying one person would ask ” how do blacks…?” Such questions are ignorant, and Laura could have said, try to take a moment to tell that person in private that when he/she phrases questions like that , that it makes you feel uncomfortable and not part of the group. She could have said tell your husband the same thing if he ignores such comments.

Laura concern yourself with your callers’ needs and not with racial politics. You are a counselor not a political commentator.

And Sanchez, did ya also mention that Dem who wished SP and Levi had been on that plane in Alaska?

Serves that black woman right thinking she is too good for black people. If she can’t bring the issue up to her husband than she obviously more into him than he is into her. Black people need to stop using such slave words to acknowledge each other. Black people have fallen we were at the mountain top with MLK and we have fallen to the stupidity of Lil Wayne. Lil Wayne is a dumb motherfucker. Rappers are a cancer to the black community with no self respect. Rappers are the white man’s bitches making his money and spreading disease to the black community.

Crazy!!

Well thank God they finally arrested that white man who was killing all those black men as the MSM reported he was…oh wait. It turns out the racist serial killer was an Arab Muslim with the last name Abuelazam = Slave of Islam.

See how the Liberal MSM works. They attack conservatives with lies but then it turns out the MSM is lying as usual.

Notice that the MSM has never tackled Oliver Stone’s anti-Semitic rants or ever chastised Jesse Jackson for his anti-Jewish remarks. Look at what happened when it was reported that Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton constantly used the N-word that was overheard by their security people. The MSM still LOVES the Clintons.

But they will LIE when a Conservative says something, including Mediaite.

I am very offended when a white person tells a black person that they are “hyper-sensitive” about racism. Shouldn’t they be? Blacks have been oppressed and discriminated against because of their race for hundreds of years. And, yes, discrimination and racism still exist in today’s “post racial” society. Racism is deeply embedded in the fabric of this society; it is the foundation upon which this country was built. The difference in a black comedian saying”nigga” and a white person saying “nigger” is the historical connotation of the word. Nigger was used by white folks as a derogatory comment. It was used to taunt and terrorize and it usually accompanied violence.

Dr. Laura was out of line and if there is any question about whether racism exists one need only to read these post. Racism is not only alive; it is flourishing. But, I don’t care if my neighbor is racist what does concern me is the institutionalized racism that is still prevalent in this country. Blacks are still under and/or unemployed at a higher rate than whites. They still receive an unequal education. People are FURIOUS about Obama’s presidency and it isn’t because of his policy; it is because his skin color.

Dr Laura did not surprise me!

I am honestly and sincerely curious what conservatives define racism to be and what exactly constitutes racist acts and/or language to consist of.

I am tired of people being offended for other people. You can only be offended if you allow yourself to be offended. No one can offend me. I only care about what people I really know say about me.

Save your fake rage and offense for the liberals.

Of course she didn’t.

Dr. Laura isn’t a racist — furthermore, you’ve done more to set back race relations in this country within your post than she could ever dream by going on this imaginary tirade that Frances created. “Nigger” and “nigga” are two synonymous terms, the only difference being the street usage creating an “-ah” sound, rather than an “-er.”

They mean exactly the same thing: A black man says “Hey, my nigga!”, and by saying that he means, “Hey, my black man!”

Whether the phraseology be “Nigg-ah” or “Nigg-er”, it’s still a derogatory word because it connotatively means the exact same. You’re simply too obtuse and obsessed with race baiting to see otherwise.

Catrice Allen-Reese said:
I am very offended when a white person tells a black person that they are “hyper-sensitive” about racism. Shouldn’t they be? Blacks have been oppressed and discriminated against because of their race for hundreds of years. And, yes, discrimination and racism still exist in today’s “post racial” society. Racism is deeply embedded in the fabric of this society; it is the foundation upon which this country was built. The difference in a black comedian saying”nigga” and a white person saying “nigger” is the historical connotation of the word. Nigger was used by white folks as a derogatory comment. It was used to taunt and terrorize and it usually accompanied violence. Dr. Laura was out of line and if there is any question about whether racism exists one need only to read these post. Racism is not only alive; it is flourishing. But, I don’t care if my neighbor is racist what does concern me is the institutionalized racism that is still prevalent in this country. Blacks are still under and/or unemployed at a higher rate than whites. They still receive an unequal education. People are FURIOUS about Obama’s presidency and it isn’t because of his policy; it is because his skin color. Dr Laura did not surprise me!

You are delusional. And very thin skinned…

iris has been eating the corn out of her pimp’s shit… cut her some slack, its bacterial

Catrice…” People are FURIOUS about Obama’s presidency and it isn’t because of his policy; it is because his skin color.”

That is where you are completely wrong. We don’t care what color he is or you are. YOU DO though.

I happen to despise Harry Reid every bit as much as I do Obama. I hate what they believe in, stand for and what they do. Color has nothing to do with it. Turning my country into Greece does.

Latin2 said:
Well thank God they finally arrested that white man who was killing all those black men as the MSM reported he was…oh wait. It turns out the racist serial killer was an Arab Muslim with the last name Abuelazam = Slave of Islam.

See how the Liberal MSM works. They attack conservatives with lies but then it turns out the MSM is lying as usual.

Notice that the MSM has never tackled Oliver Stone’s anti-Semitic rants or ever chastised Jesse Jackson for his anti-Jewish remarks. Look at what happened when it was reported that Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton constantly used the N-word that was overheard by their security people. The MSM still LOVES the Clintons.

But they will LIE when a Conservative says something, including Mediaite.

Yeah, except the guy is an Israeli citizen with the first name Elias. Nice try though.

The best part about this story?

Dr. Laura appologized.

So all the morons who say she was right-are not even in the mainstream anymore.

Seem at least Dr. Laura knows enough not to double down on stupidty.

Catrice Allen-Reese said:
I am very offended when a white person tells a black person that they are “hyper-sensitive” about racism. Shouldn’t they be? Blacks have been oppressed and discriminated against because of their race for hundreds of years. And, yes, discrimination and racism still exist in today’s “post racial” society. Racism is deeply embedded in the fabric of this society; it is the foundation upon which this country was built. The difference in a black comedian saying”nigga” and a white person saying “nigger” is the historical connotation of the word. Nigger was used by white folks as a derogatory comment. It was used to taunt and terrorize and it usually accompanied violence.

Dr. Laura was out of line and if there is any question about whether racism exists one need only to read these post. Racism is not only alive; it is flourishing. But, I don’t care if my neighbor is racist what does concern me is the institutionalized racism that is still prevalent in this country. Blacks are still under and/or unemployed at a higher rate than whites. They still receive an unequal education. People are FURIOUS about Obama’s presidency and it isn’t because of his policy; it is because his skin color.

Dr Laura did not surprise me!

It’s a shame that you know institutional racism is still flourishing, but are so wrong about the shape it’s taken. You look too young to remember the black community in the U.S. pre-1970. At 31, so am I. Like many my age, I was raised by my grandparents. I grew up in the hood on welfare in the Bronx, NY, where I basically only saw white people on TV or driving police cars (when they dared to come into my neighborhood. Let me tell you what institutional racism is: welfare. It’s indoctrinating Black people to believe that we can never get ahead in life, so why try? Telling us the deck’s just too stacked against us, and it’s all Whitey’s fault. Nothing we can do about it. The amazingly funny thing about it is that in the pre-civil rights 1900s, when all the intellectual progressives were referring to Blacks as an inferior race and Whitey really WAS against us, our community was stronger, worked harder and in harmony. Soon as we get real freedom and equality in this country, here come a wave of intellectuals telling us to give up now that things are easier. People say Black pride, but they think that means growing an afro or going to Africa instead of taking care of our real responsibilities: self, family and community. How is it that a Black man as president is still not as truly uplifting as a Nick at Nite Cosby show rerun? The current icons of the Black ‘community’ should be working hard to unite us with each other and the country, yet they only divide. They should all be cast aside. As long as we think in terms of race, we’ll never conquer racism. Learn to stop defining yourself as Black and trying to classify everyone. You’ll see that the stereotypes and misconceptions fall away once you stop trying define them.

As a therapist, she screwed up in going down that road. As she notes, you don’t help a person solve their problem by getting embroiled in something like that.

As a matter of opinion, and of fact, she was absolutely right. She didn’t utter an incorrect syllable. Neither did she say anything the slightest bit racist.

As a therapist, she failed. As a journalist, Frances failed. Clean up on aisle Frances.

Bootleghaircut said:
The best part about this story?

Dr. Laura appologized.

So all the morons who say she was right-are not even in the mainstream anymore.

Seem at least Dr. Laura knows enough not to double down on stupidty.

There’s a world of difference between apologizing for using a word and apologizing for being racist. She’d issue the same apology for saying dickface on the air too.

The amazingly funny thing about it is that in the pre-civil rights 1900s, when all the intellectual progressives were referring to Blacks as an inferior race and Whitey really WAS against us, our community was stronger, worked harder and in harmony.

I think I love you. Would you, by chance, be a woman? That would help me sleep tonight.

360 was all about race tonight. I was surprised that Anderson didn’t lead off with this story, but he is still “nursing” that “terror baby” bs for all it’s worth to the delight of most of his regular viewers. The Dr. Laura story was second. Oddly enough, he had CNN’s expert resident racist Roland “Tawana Brawley / Crown Heights” Martin on to discuss the issue. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! Would that be a racist remark in Anderson’s world? Probably.

The live blog was highly censored tonight, from what I could tell, all criticism of Sharpton was blocked.

“Dr. Laura was out of line” Catrice Allen-Reese

I agree–she was completely wrong.

“People are FURIOUS about Obama’s presidency and it isn’t because of his policy; it is because his skin color.”

For me, it is President Obama’s leftist policies, not his skin color.

Catrice Allen-Reese said:
Blacks are still under and/or unemployed at a higher rate than whites

Maybe these factors play a part in this:

Black males’ Rampant Joblessness, high drop-out rate, incarceration dooming black community: study
Jet, March 26, 2007

Seven out of every 10 African-American children are born out of wedlock, according to testimony given by a leading social policy researcher during a Joint Economic Committee hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C.

In what is being called “the nation’s worst crisis in the history of the Black family,” hearing participants attributed the degenerating situation to the particularly disturbing plight of young African-American men, half of whom are now unemployed, and have 30 percent chance of serving time in prison before age 30.”

Powell battles America’s dropout rate
By James Causey of the Journal Sentinel

June 18, 2009 |(18) Comments

Every 26 seconds in America a child drops out of school. Former Secretary of State Colin Powell and his wife hope to find solutions for what they are calling a catastrophe.

The Powells will hold summits across the nation to find those solutions, which are long overdue given that we’ve known what the problems are for awhile now.

Nationally, 50% of minority children don’t graduate. ”

Now, tell me, who in this economy is going to hire a HS dropout?

Pablo said:
I think I love you. Would you, by chance, be a woman? That would help me sleep tonight.

lol, no. Sorry

atreyue said:
It’s a shame that you know institutional racism is still flourishing, but are so wrong about the shape it’s taken. You look too young to remember the black community in the U.S. pre-1970. At 31, so am I. Like many my age, I was raised by my grandparents. I grew up in the hood on welfare in the Bronx, NY, where I basically only saw white people on TV or driving police cars (when they dared to come into my neighborhood. Let me tell you what institutional racism is: welfare. It’s indoctrinating Black people to believe that we can never get ahead in life, so why try? Telling us the deck’s just too stacked against us, and it’s all Whitey’s fault. Nothing we can do about it. The amazingly funny thing about it is that in the pre-civil rights 1900s, when all the intellectual progressives were referring to Blacks as an inferior race and Whitey really WAS against us, our community was stronger, worked harder and in harmony. Soon as we get real freedom and equality in this country, here come a wave of intellectuals telling us to give up now that things are easier. People say Black pride, but they think that means growing an afro or going to Africa instead of taking care of our real responsibilities: self, family and community. How is it that a Black man as president is still not as truly uplifting as a Nick at Nite Cosby show rerun? The current icons of the Black ‘community’ should be working hard to unite us with each other and the country, yet they only divide. They should all be cast aside. As long as we think in terms of race, we’ll never conquer racism. Learn to stop defining yourself as Black and trying to classify everyone. You’ll see that the stereotypes and misconceptions fall away once you stop trying define them.

Seriously, that may be the best comment I’ve ever read here. Thank you, atreyue.

libra blue said:
Roland “Tawana Brawley / Crown Heights” Martin on to discuss the issue.

He is a massive racist.

Shit. You got a sister maybe?

libra blue said:
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! Would that be a racist remark in Anderson’s world? Probably.

Sometimes you just gotta call a spade a spade.

Pablo said:
Seriously, that may be the best comment I’ve ever read here. Thank you, atreyue.

No prob. It took a drastic change to my environment for me to be able to see it clearly. And a couple of years before I would change the status quo openly. Don’t be too hard on the unenlightened. The civil rights generation dropped the baton right before the finish line. They know it and they’re ashamed. So they cling to excuses and they’ve made it their mission to pass those same excuses to future generations to avoid being called on their fuck up.

I’m amazed that anyone would call a radio show looking for anything. ” Dr.” L. is obnoxious in my book I would not waste a minute on her . Obnoxious , Si . Racist , No . Shamefully misleading headline .

Pablo said:
Shit. You got a sister maybe?

Lmao, 3 people thumbed up me telling you that I’m a man. I guess they like to see you suffer.

blurgh. said:
I am honestly and sincerely curious what conservatives define racism to be and what exactly constitutes racist acts and/or language to consist of.

Racism? Well, there is the traditional definition of someone who believes another race is inferior but there is in America a more prevalent and insidious form of racism taking place and that can be defined as :

“believing that minorities can not make it in the USA because of their history or skin color and believing that the govt. must help said minorities because they can not succeed with out external help from the government and believing any failure in the minority communities is do to the fact that they are discriminated against.”

Sure, racism still exists, but to place the blame of the problems of black America primarily on racism is not only inaccurate but also denies what it takes to be successful in ANY country: education and hard work.

Pablo said:
Seriously, that may be the best comment I’ve ever read here. Thank you, atreyue.

I thought the same thing; we need people like atreyue talking on TV and radio.

Wow. Imagine that… a right wing racist homophobe. Gee… that NEVER happens. Please. This is not unexpected.

What an ignorant & misleading headline.

atreyue says:
August 12, 2010 at 11:11 pm (Quote)
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“There’s a world of difference between apologizing for using a word and apologizing for being racist. She’d issue the same apology for saying dickface on the air too.”

I don’t care who you are, that’s effing hilarious. And true.

atreyue said:
No prob. It took a drastic change to my environment for me to be able to see it clearly. And a couple of years before I would change the status quo openly. Don’t be too hard on the unenlightened.

They’re hard enough on themselves. The question is, how do you reach them? How do you show them the light?

The question, as they say, is a mothafucka. Cosby gets it. Juan Williams even gets a lot of it. I think Obama even gets a fair bit of it, but it isn’t on his agenda. Morgan Freeman gets it. How do you spread the word so that it sinks in?

notsofast said:
denies what it takes to be successful in ANY country: education and hard work.

And how in the hell would you know, as you sit at home collecting your welfare check every month.

the real john t said:
And how in the hell would you know, as you sit at home collecting your welfare check every month.

Go blow some more pipe you racist retarded union thug!

Pablo said:
They’re hard enough on themselves. The question is, how do you reach them? How do you show them the light?

The question, as they say, is a mothafucka. Cosby gets it. Juan Williams even gets a lot of it. I think Obama even gets a fair bit of it, but it isn’t on his agenda. Morgan Freeman gets it. How do you spread the word so that it sinks in?

Trust me, Obama gets all of it, he’s just toeing the line to get the vote. That was the first thing that turned me off to him. Cosby gets it, and when he spoke up about it, he was pretty much ostracized by the black community for his trouble. Juan Williams is on FOX, so no luck there. I’d never seen that Morgan Freeman clip, so thank you for that.

You show others by leading by example, which you pretty much do, as far as I’ve seen. Just don’t play to stereotypes (positive or negative) and treat everyone equally. Too many people feel the need to give “You people” examples to prove their point (much like Dr. Laura in this story). You can make the same point with ‘everyman’ logic and no special racial treatment.

The hardest thing for me is giving up the positive stereotypes. I like always being picked first for basketball games and people assuming I have a big penis. On the other hand, I don’t enjoy people referring to me as ‘Brotha’ and ducking for cover when I claim to have a gun during a football conversation.

notsofast said:
Go blow some more pipe you racist retarded union thug!

So I guess you couldn’t answer it.

That Freeman clip is outstanding. You’re welcome.

You know what’s really whacked? Farrakhan gets it. All of it. And he preaches it. Unfortunately, it’s all wrapped up in a lot of hate.

The hardest thing for me is giving up the positive stereotypes. I like always being picked first for basketball games and people assuming I have a big penis.

Did I mention that I’m Irish? OK, I’m over you now. Thanks. :)

On the other hand, I don’t enjoy people referring to me as ‘Brotha’ and ducking for cover when I claim to have a gun during a football conversation.

If you happen to be at an Eagles game when that happens, I can’t blame them. Otherwise, I take your point.

@notsofast, “Sure, racism still exists, but to place the blame of the problems of black America primarily on racism is not only inaccurate but also denies what it takes to be successful in ANY country: education and hard work.”

I agree. In fact, I think the Dems have done a lot to keep blacks down by victimizing them every chance they get. People like Anderson exacerbate the problem by making every issue about race and spreading fear by insinuating that whites are somehow conspiring to keep blacks and Latinos down or to do them harm. Anderson is even trying to blame the negative self-image some black children have on white society, when in reality, it is not white society’s job to build the self-image of black children. That responsibility belongs to their parents. I think people like Anderson and some others in the left wing media do more harm to blacks, especially black children, by continually portraying them as victims and making them believe that there is a racial boogeyman around every corner and behind every door.

I don’t know what is behind Anderson’s hatred of white society, but someone should call him out on it because, in my opinion, he is doing a lot of harm to race relations in this country.

Catrice Allen-Reese said:
I am very offended when a white person tells a black person that they are “hyper-sensitive” about racism. Shouldn’t they be? Blacks have been oppressed and discriminated against because of their race for hundreds of years. And, yes, discrimination and racism still exist in today’s “post racial” society. Racism is deeply embedded in the fabric of this society; it is the foundation upon which this country was built. The difference in a black comedian saying”nigga” and a white person saying “nigger” is the historical connotation of the word. Nigger was used by white folks as a derogatory comment. It was used to taunt and terrorize and it usually accompanied violence.

Dr. Laura was out of line and if there is any question about whether racism exists one need only to read these post. Racism is not only alive; it is flourishing. But, I don’t care if my neighbor is racist what does concern me is the institutionalized racism that is still prevalent in this country. Blacks are still under and/or unemployed at a higher rate than whites. They still receive an unequal education. People are FURIOUS about Obama’s presidency and it isn’t because of his policy; it is because his skin color.

Dr Laura did not surprise me!

Welcome to Mediaite. As you already notice, it is a hostile environment for anybody who doesn’t unwaveringly support the perpetuation of the White Male Power Structure. It’s actually very revealing, and enlightening seeing your friends and neighbors expose themselves day and night about what they REALLY think about minorities.

It’s actually fun watching them come out from the backwoods and show us who they REALLY are. I just wish they did it more in public, instead of smiling in your face and pretending they’re something they’re not.

–Cobra

Cobra said:
Welcome to Mediaite. As you already notice, it is a hostile environment for anybody who doesn’t unwaveringly support the perpetuation of the White Male Power Structure.

Right. Mediaite, Where White Supremacists Hang Out.

Sorry, Cobra. You’re maxed out.

Pablo said:
If you happen to be at an Eagles game when that happens, I can’t blame them. Otherwise, I take your point.

I’m a Giants fan, so the temptation to bring a gun to an Eagles game is very strong.

Uh oh. I have an issue with Giants fans. That time the Chargers were in town and they drilled Sly Croom with an iceball and knocked him right out. I might have to extend that previous exclusion up to the Meadowlands.

Pablo said:
Uh oh. I have an issue with Giants fans. That time the Chargers were in town and they drilled Sly Croom with an iceball and knocked him right out. I might have to extend that previous exclusion up to the Meadowlands.

They DID beat the Patriots in one of the greatest Super Bowls ever so the Giants (and their fans) get a pass from me.

OK, there’s also that David Tyree miracle catch in SB XLII. I should probably mention that. Bastard.

Cobra said:
Welcome to Mediaite. As you already notice, it is a hostile environment for anybody who doesn’t unwaveringly support the perpetuation of the White Male Power Structure.

–Cobra

This, coming from a ruthless terrorist organization determined to rule the world whose only minority on staff was Storm Shadow: a bad ass Japanese ninja who promptly left to join the competition once he saw what a bigot the Commander was.

;-p
Yo Joe

Kird said:
They DID beat the Patriots in one of the greatest Super Bowls ever so the Giants (and their fans) get a pass from me.

I was deeply disappointed with the Pats in that game. I thought they were as sloppy as The Who when they did their halftime thing. Which is not to detract from some excellent Giants play. I’d rank the Cardinals and Steelers in SB XLIII as a much better game.

Pablo said:
Bastard.

Actually, they’re calling me blue dog and DINO now. Its cool though cuz I like the color blue, dogs, and dinosaurs.

Pablo said:
I was deeply disappointed with the Pats in that game. I thought they were as sloppy as The Who when they did their halftime thing. Which is not to detract from some excellent Giants play. I’d rank the Cardinals and Steelers in SB XLIII as a much better game.

I can’t really think of a Super Bowl since the Ravens won that wasn’t a good game.

Publius219 said:
Yeah, except the guy is an Israeli citizen with the first name Elias. Nice try though.

uh…Palestinians and Arabs living in Israel are Israelis and his last name means Slave of Islam in Arabic.

…but nice try though.

Latin2 said:
his last name means Slave of Islam in Arabic.

No it doesn’t. What RW idiotic site did you find that from?

Actually she is right. The only difference is she had the guts to say it. If it’s such a bad word why isn’t it abhorred by everyone as it should be.

The best line I heard was from a movie 3-4 years ago where a basketball coach told his players that the word has been associated in the past with so much suffering and disrespect to black people, not to mention the fact that so many blacks gave their lives fighting everything it stood for that it should never be used by anyone and that includes blacks.

Being Black is no reason to resurrect the word.

Latin2 said:
…but nice try though.

The nieghbors of the family in Israel said they were christians. But nice try again.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38671977/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts

Funny thing about what’s happened since a black man has been elected President. It’s the conservatives who have not problems using the N-word. It’s conservatives who have no problem with defending right wing hacks when they step over the bounds of human decency. And it’s conservatives who usually house those who are out and out bigots. Oh, I know, conservatives like to cry “racist” when others decry racism in its traditional sense. But, it’s funny, how real racists are usually found on the far right side of the political spectrum. Anyone who defends Schlesinger (who apologised for her stupidity) is out and out ignorant, or an out an out bigot. Oft-times, they’re one in the same.

So black people can say the N word but white people can’t……DR L did not direct the N word to a particular person in a derogatory way – she used it to illustrate the double standard, right?

So then, what is the problem with Wright or any black person that ridicules white people?

This has to take the prize for the most misleading and pejorative Mediaite headline, and THAT is saying something!

the real john t said:
No it doesn’t. What RW idiotic site did you find that from?

I don’t know if he’s a christian or a muslim. The media has been hyperventilating with hope that this might be a white-on-black racist serial killer. Once again–as in the case with the DC sniper–the guy was not white. In this case he’s an arab.

In other news–10,000 blacks were killed by other blacks in DC yesterday.

Sean68 said:
I don’t know if he’s a christian or a muslim. The media has been hyperventilating with hope that this might be a white-on-black racist serial killer. Once again–as in the case with the DC sniper–the guy was not white. In this case he’s an arab.

In other news–10,000 blacks were killed by other blacks in DC yesterday.

What a pleasant fellow. I’m sure no whites killed any fellow whites yesterday.

Paul, stop playing dumb (and I’m assuming you are playing dumb and are smarter than you are appearing right now). You know very well what Sean is saying. The media is obsessed with reporting crimes of whites on blacks (which btw, I don’t have any problem with), but there is a completely different way they handle crimes committed by minorities, which is to say, they like to ignore key details. You can pretend it doesn’t happen all you want, but those of use who follow the media see if every day.

paulmdoro said:
What a pleasant fellow. I’m sure no whites killed any fellow whites yesterday.

Dummy, my point was that the liberal white media will spill gallons of ink reporting on what it thinks is a white person killing a few blacks, but comparatively little on the much, much larger problem of blacks killing other blacks,

valkyrie101 said:
So then, what is the problem with Wright or any black person that ridicules white people?

The hate. Same way it works with white people who have a habit of ridiculing black people.

MichelleF said:
Paul, stop playing dumb (and I’m assuming you are playing dumb and are smarter than you are appearing right now). You know very well what Sean is saying. The media is obsessed with reporting crimes of whites on blacks (which btw, I don’t have any problem with), but there is a completely different way they handle crimes committed by minorities, which is to say, they like to ignore key details. You can pretend it doesn’t happen all you want, but those of use who follow the media see if every day.

More media bias. I see. In the newspaper I read, they report on all crime: black on black and white on white and Hispanic on Hispanic, etc. They don’t ignore some violence and focus on others. You guys are so easily outraged and have such predetermined notions. You see what you want to see rather than what actually is.

paulmdoro said:
More media bias. I see. In the newspaper I read, they report on all crime: black on black and white on white and Hispanic on Hispanic, etc. They don’t ignore some violence and focus on others. You guys are so easily outraged and have such predetermined notions. You see what you want to see rather than what actually is.

It’s the media that had a pre-determined notion in the case of the DC serial killer. I recall in the DC sniper case, expert after expert assuring us that the killer/s would be white guys–”wall paper white” was how one particularly nasty left-wing criminologist described them.

Sean68 said:
It’s the media that had a pre-determined notion in the case of the DC serial killer. I recall in the DC sniper case, expert after expert assuring us that the killer/s would be white guys–”wall paper white” was how one particularly nasty left-wing criminologist described them.

Well most serial killers are white aren’t they Sean? They were jumping to conclusions based on history.

No, that’s what you do. Since you follow the media so closely, next time a Dem commits a crime, listen to the story and see how long it takes them (that’s assuming they do, sometimes they omit it all together) to admit it was a dem. On the flip side if it’s an R, the story will stary with “Repulican congressman……..”. That’s just fact paul, whether you choose to admit it or not. You obviously do NOT follow the media as closely as you claim.

You see what you want to see rather than what actually is.

This statement fits your side FAR more than it fits my side.

valkyrie101 said:
So then, what is the problem with Wright or any black person that ridicules white people?

Do you have a problem with Obama’s pastor of over 20 years ridiculing white people? Does that make him racist? Mocking the way we supposedly talk? Our physical features? How we think and learn?

After all, he did say that whites and blacks have different brain chemistries. The media ignored that part, but that’s exactly what he said.

I want to be clear this is Obama’s intellectual and spiritual mentor we’re talking about here.

MichelleF said:
No, that’s what you do. Since you follow the media so closely, next time a Dem commits a crime, listen to the story and see how long it takes them (that’s assuming they do, sometimes they omit it all together) to admit it was a dem. On the flip side if it’s an R, the story will stary with “Repulican congressman……..”. That’s just fact paul, whether you choose to admit it or not. You obviously do NOT follow the media as closely as you claim.

You see what you want to see rather than what actually is.

This statement fits your side FAR more than it fits my side.

Please show some examples of this Michelle, to support your claims. I’d like to see some. If it is a fact that shouldn’t be difficult.

paulmdoro said:
Well most serial killers are white aren’t they Sean? They were jumping to conclusions based on history.

According to proportion in the population. But the fact is that black males are overrepresented in that category. The only two studies of the subject that included race supported the other in that fact that of all known serial killers in the US, black males comprised 23% .

In any case, given the large black population in the areas where the killings took place, I think at least in the case of the DC sniper, the stereotype came back and bit them in the ass, wouldn’t you?

Sean68 said:

In any case, given the large black population in the areas where the killings took place, I think at least in the case of the DC sniper, the stereotype came back and bit them in the ass, wouldn’t you?

Definitely. But responsible reporting and media don’t always go hand in hand.

Sure thing Paul,

http://newsbusters.org/search/google?cx=000670030471699741183%3Aydh8bjxaqui&cof=FORID%3A11&query=democrats+not+identified&form_token=3142e4e9aa86d8b674055c5867c9141d&form_id=google_cse_results_searchbox_form#966

There are a full 10 pages of proof attached to that link. Don’t even bother shooting the messenger on this one, that’s getting tired.

MichelleF said:
Sure thing Paul,

http://newsbusters.org/search/google?cx=000670030471699741183%3Aydh8bjxaqui&cof=FORID%3A11&query=democrats+not+identified&form_token=3142e4e9aa86d8b674055c5867c9141d&form_id=google_cse_results_searchbox_form#966

There are a full 10 pages of proof attached to that link. Don’t even bother shooting the messenger on this one, that’s getting tired.

Michelle, if I posted something from Media Matters, you’d laugh at me and declare it a biased site and thereby denounce the story and whatever evidence it contains. You link to a site just as biased. Why should I take it any more seriously than you do Media Matters?

You never disappoint, Paul. All newbusters does in that link is post the transcipts, kind of hard to refute those. That’s ok, continue to bury you head in the sand, I couldn’t really care less. Enough other people are waking up, as is evident in recent polls on how much the public distrusts the media. And speaking of that, why do you think the public doesn’t trust the media anymore?

I think you have some anecdotal evidence, at best, and you know full well that if I used a partisan site like Media Matters to back up an argument you’d never take it seriously and cry about it being a biased site. You might want to be careful about telling someone else their head is buried.

I think the public has different reasons for distrusting the media. Some see bias (and not just conservatives). Some think they beat stories to death and practice irresponsible journalism. Some see a lack of in-depth investigative reporting. There are many reasons.

The problem with Media Matters isn’t that they’re biased. The problem is that they lie and lie and lie and lie and lie. It’s what they do. Thee are numerous left leaning sites at which one can find accurate reporting. Media Matters isn’t one of them.

Pablo said:
The problem with Media Matters isn’t that they’re biased. The problem is that they lie and lie and lie and lie and lie. It’s what they do. Thee are numerous left leaning sites at which one can find accurate reporting. Media Matters isn’t one of them.

Just using MM to make a point. I don’t frequent the site.

Who is she?

paulmdoro said:
Just using MM to make a point. I don’t frequent the site.

Newsbusters does not equal Media Matters is my point. Referring to Media Matters isn’t a convincing excuse for dismissing information that appears at Newsbusters.

Pablo said:
Newsbusters does not equal Media Matters is my point. Referring to Media Matters isn’t a convincing excuse for dismissing information that appears at Newsbusters.

Says a rabid partisan. Of course you believe that. You’re not objective.

Pablo said:
The problem with Media Matters isn’t that they’re biased. The problem is that they lie and lie and lie and lie and lie. It’s what they do. Thee are numerous left leaning sites at which one can find accurate reporting. Media Matters isn’t one of them.

How is that possible since most of the time they provide a link to the, e.g. Beck audio or video? You can look at it and decide for yourself. But FOX has put up pagan symbols, skulls and crossbones, at the entrance of that excellent resource to scare its followers from investigating for themselves.

valkyrie101 said:
How is that possible since most of the time they provide a link to the, e.g. Beck audio or video? You can look at it and decide for yourself. But FOX has put up pagan symbols, skulls and crossbones, at the entrance of that excellent resource to scare its followers from investigating for themselves.

This is what I’m talking about. If you’re conservative, MM is biased and Newsbusters is not. I’m sure the opposite holds true for liberals. I avoid both of them since each is partisan and biased.

And Dr. Laura is a therapist, she gets much more license to use the N word in my opinion. But if she is suggesting that black woman should not marry white men unless they are willing to deal with sly racism, that’s nonsense.

paulmdoro said:
Says a rabid partisan. Of course you believe that. You’re not objective.

You’re saying it isn’t true? I’ll tell you what, for every time you can find Newsbusters prevaricating, I’ll find you 5 times Media Matters does it. Deal?

valkyrie101 said:
How is that possible since most of the time they provide a link to the, e.g. Beck audio or video?

50% of the time, they take what’s said out of context. The rest of the time, they misrepresent what was said. They lie, that is.

paulmdoro said:
This is what I’m talking about. If you’re conservative, MM is biased and Newsbusters is not. I’m sure the opposite holds true for liberals. I avoid both of them since each is partisan and biased.

Again, watching a video or listening to an audio clip of Beck saying whatever, is not partisan unto itself. The intention of mediamatters.org to highlight certain things, and not others, is certainly a partisan decision. But the facts they rely on, to wit: the actual words of Beck, for example, are not partisan. And in that sense, it is more reliable than sites that just provide partisan commentary.

paulmdoro said:
This is what I’m talking about. If you’re conservative, MM is biased and Newsbusters is not.

Bias is one thing. Anyone with half a brain can find their way through that. Lying is a different thing.

Pablo said:
You’re saying it isn’t true? I’ll tell you what, for every time you can find Newsbusters prevaricating, I’ll find you 5 times Media Matters does it. Deal?

I am saying you see everything through a partisan lens, including whether or not Newsbusters and Media Matters are biased. You have no ability to analyze anything objectively including this. Substitute something else for MM if it makes you feel better. My original comments regarding media bias hold true. Not just conservatives see it.

valkyrie101 said:
But the facts they rely on, to wit: the actual words of Beck, for example, are not partisan. And in that sense, it is more reliable than sites that just provide partisan commentary.

Hey, didn’t you just have a big old problem with Beck using Obama Sr’s own words?

valkyrie101 said:
Again, watching a video or listening to an audio clip of Beck saying whatever, is not partisan unto itself. The intention of mediamatters.org to highlight certain things, and not others, is certainly a partisan decision. But the facts they rely on, to wit: the actual words of Beck, for example, are not partisan. And in that sense, it is more reliable than sites that just provide partisan commentary.

Try telling someone like Pablo that.

Val, I think we leanred last week how dishonest Media Matter’s is. Can you point to where newsbusters has been caught doing what MM did?

Racist tirade? I had to check twice that this wasn’t by Tommy Christopher.

paulmdoro said:
Says a rabid partisan. Of course you believe that. You’re not objective.

Let me ask again. Is it true or is it false that Media Matters lies as a matter of course?

paulmdoro said:
You have no ability to analyze anything objectively including this.

Lovely glass house you’ve got there, paul.

MichelleF said:
Val, I think we leanred last week how dishonest Media Matter’s is. Can you point to where newsbusters has been caught doing what MM did?

But each serves a similar purpose right? They fancy themselves media watchdogs. And each represents one end of the political spectrum. How you feel about them is determined by your own political preference.

Pablo said:
Let me ask again. Is it true or is it false that Media Matters lies as a matter of course?

Lovely glass house you’ve got there, paul.

In your opinion MM lies. You’ve made your point clear Pablo.

I said I don’t visit MM. I know what their agenda is, same as Newsbusters. I prefer to avoid both.

The difference, Paul, is that Newsbusters doesn’t lie, MM does. But please feel free to prove me wrong. Post a link to NB lying like MM does.

MichelleF said:
The difference, Paul, is that Newsbusters doesn’t lie, MM does. But please feel free to prove me wrong. Post a link to NB lying like MM does.

I don’t need to prove you wrong because I never said NB lies Michelle. Got that? And again, my contention is that people from all political walks of life see media bias.

Pablo said:
Hey, didn’t you just have a big old problem with Beck using Obama Sr’s own words?

I never complained about Beck using the father’s words, it was the Beck commentary that was the problem.

I think paul likes being lied to Michelle. I won’t presume, as he does, to be able know exactly what goes on in his head, but that’s what it looks like from here.

MichelleF said:
The difference, Paul, is that Newsbusters doesn’t lie, MM does. But please feel free to prove me wrong. Post a link to NB lying like MM does.

How does a video of Beck talking lie?

Well, my point is NB isn’t comparable to MM, since one lies and the other doesn’t. But I’m not going to change your mind, since if I did you’d have to actually look at the link I sent you earlier, proof you asked for and then chose to disregard. Anyway, enough banging my head against the wall, I have better things to do.

valkyrie101 said:
I never complained about Beck using the father’s words, it was the Beck commentary that was the problem.

Was he dishonest about something? Or is it that you just don’t like his opinion?

Pablo said:
I think paul likes being lied to Michelle. I won’t presume, as he does, to be able know exactly what goes on in his head, but that’s what it looks like from here.

Better take another look and rethink being able to know what goes on in someone else’s head. You know nothing.

valkyrie101 said:
MichelleF said:
The difference, Paul, is that Newsbusters doesn’t lie, MM does. But please feel free to prove me wrong. Post a link to NB lying like MM does.
How does a video of Beck talking lie?

Oh yea.

MichelleF said:
Well, my point is NB isn’t comparable to MM, since one lies and the other doesn’t. But I’m not going to change your mind, since if I did you’d have to actually look at the link I sent you earlier, proof you asked for and then chose to disregard. Anyway, enough banging my head against the wall, I have better things to do.

I did some more research about that link Michelle. Like I thought, that link is nothing but anecdotal evidence from a partisan source. An academic study found that the media reporting on party scandals and stating party affiliation is determined by their own political persuasion. So a paper known for supporting Democrats is more likely to state a Republican scandal, and the same is true for Republican papers. Each does it, not just one or the other.

Also, regarding media coverage, recently some have wondered why the Rangel scandal gets so much more coverage than the Ensign scandal, despite new developments in the case of the latter. You’d think the “liberal media” would be all over Ensign since he’s a Republican.

Squabbling over whether or not one lies and the other doesn’t seems really arbitrary.

paulmdoro said:
An academic study found that the media reporting on party scandals and stating party affiliation is determined by their own political persuasion.

Link? Oh, and speaking of studies… Evidence Of A Liberal Media

So, if reporting on scandals is based on the politics of the journalists, and the journalists are overwhelmingly liberal…why, you’ve just proved Michelle’s point, paul.

Because Ensign isn’t a tax cheat in charge of the Ways and Means Committee, nor is he pending trial. I so enjoy your ability to be objectively analytical.

paulmdoro said:
Better take another look and rethink being able to know what goes on in someone else’s head. You know nothing.

LMAO! Damn Paul….that had to be a record for FEWEST WORDS TYPED BEFORE CONTRADICTING ONESELF.

Reminded me of The Chappelle Show… Charlie Murphy’s True Hollywood Stories…check the part from 1:20 to 1:50….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUb06iLjTKA

Language warning for that video…. lotsa cursing and lotsa RACIST TIRADES.

paulmdoro said:
I did some more research about that link Michelle. Like I thought, that link is nothing but anecdotal evidence from a partisan source. An academic study found that the media reporting on party scandals and stating party affiliation is determined by their own political persuasion. So a paper known for supporting Democrats is more likely to state a Republican scandal, and the same is true for Republican papers. Each does it, not just one or the other. Also, regarding media coverage, recently some have wondered why the Rangel scandal gets so much more coverage than the Ensign scandal, despite new developments in the case of the latter. You’d think the “liberal media” would be all over Ensign since he’s a Republican. Squabbling over whether or not one lies and the other doesn’t seems really arbitrary.

Dude, nobody gives a shit about the minority party scandal. The same was true during the Bush years.

Pablo said:
Link? Oh, and speaking of studies… Evidence Of A Liberal Media

So, if reporting on scandals is based on the politics of the journalists, and the journalists are overwhelmingly liberal…why, you’ve just proved Michelle’s point, paul.

Because Ensign isn’t a tax cheat in charge of the Ways and Means Committee, nor is he pending trial. I so enjoy your ability to be objectively analytical.

But Ensign is an elected official under investigation. Doesn’t that warrant media coverage?

Maybe journalists are more liberal, but that doesn’t mean they can’t report objectively and newspapers and editorial boards are not. Take the last three presidential elections for example. In 2000, more newspapers endorsed Bush than Gore. In 2004, it was about even, and in 2008 Obama got more than McCain.

FearMonger said:
Dude, nobody gives a shit about the minority party scandal. The same was true during the Bush years.

Yeah there’s probably some truth to that.

Media Matters is a joke. They make virtually ZERO effort to report things accurately. They attack the messenger every time if it happens to be a (R) or, even worse, a conservative. Off the top of my head….they perpetuated the lie that King Samir Shabazz could never stalk another polling place…. among many other cherry-picked sound-bite filled BS attacks masked as ‘stories’.

I tried to post there to correct a few of their mistakes but my posts never got out of ‘moderation’… big surprise.

back in a bit to make the point clear to those who seek the truth…. that means YOU paul ;op

By the way, a simple search reveals that Newsbusters has also been accused of lying. So, again, your feelings about partisan watchdog sites is determined by your own political beliefs.

*LOL* What a libelous headline. Dr. Laura didn’t go on a racist rant; she just spoke the truth.

Catrice Allen-Reese said:
The difference in a black comedian saying”nigga” and a white person saying “nigger” is the historical connotation of the word.

The difference between “nigger” and “nigga” is accent or dialect, period. It’s still the same word, and it’s still a double standard.

I know where the good doctor was trying to go with this but she did an APALLING job of going there. She was condescending and insensitive to the caller’s INITIAL question of how she could get her husband to be a little more sensitive to her feelings of being called out about her race constantly. I don’t care if you’re white, black, or orange.. NO ONE would appreiciate being singled out based on race as the neighbor proportedly does to this caller.

You blew it Dr. Laura. You need to think about your callers’ questions before spouting off the advice. You had a chance to give this lady good sound advice and all you did was berate her. You surprised and disappointed me.. Wow. ……And that’s coming from someone who normally supports you and your viewpoint.

WideAwakeNow said:
I know where the good doctor was trying to go with this but she did an APALLING job of going there. She was condescending and insensitive to the caller’s INITIAL question of how she could get her husband to be a little more sensitive to her feelings of being called out about her race constantly. I don’t care if you’re white, black, or orange.. NO ONE would appreiciate being singled out based on race as the neighbor proportedly does to this caller. You blew it Dr. Laura. You need to think about your callers’ questions before spouting off the advice. You had a chance to give this lady good sound advice and all you did was berate her. You surprised and disappointed me.. Wow. ……And that’s coming from someone who normally supports you and your viewpoint.

Agreed… and well said.

She’s cute . … Ok, not cute . ….Scary .

I hope she looses a significant amount of listeners over this. She doesn’t deserve to be on the air with demented thinking like that.

My worst part is where she’s obviously frustrated, after she’s dropped the caller, and keeps trying to talk herself into thinking what she did was ok..saying, “get a sense of humor people”…but I never heard her laugh..I don’t think anyone thought anything about that conversation was humorous, yet she continued to try and console herself with the thought that since black entertainers use the word, she can use it freely too.

I wonder how she’d feel if her children started running around the house saying “n*gger, n*gger, n*gger” at random…hey it’s not directed at anyone in particular, so it’s ok….right?

paulmdoro said:
But Ensign is an elected official under investigation. Doesn’t that warrant media coverage?

Sure. But not the same level of coverage as a 40 year icon going up on charges. Should Ensign ever come up on charges, you’ll see more coverage.

Dang it I had a post all written up and went to copy the headline of this thread….OOPS. Should not have done that…..it refreshed the page and I am tired of typing. I do think the headline is misleading… she said not to marry another race if you can’t take the heat which is a different sentiment. And teh point about the ‘N’ word… people have been saying for years IF YOU DON’T WANT TO HEAR IT THEN YOU SHOULD NOT SAY IT…AND THAT GOES FOR EVERYBODY.

I happen to agree with that rule but…. she was ‘inartful’ (Gibbs words) in expressing herself. I’ll call her a RACIST if we can all agree that what Harry Reid said makes him a RACIST too.

I’ll try to re-create my post about MM…. Damn it damn it…

paulmdoro said:
By the way, a simple search reveals that Newsbusters has also been accused of lying.

By who? About what? Is the accusation true?

Your objective analysis abilities are fascinating.

Try the Back button, FM.

Pablo said:
By who? About what? Is the accusation true?

Your objective analysis abilities are fascinating.

MM accuses them of lying, so no surprise there. Something about a Palin issue. Writer William Black accuses them of lying about their coverage of a book called Red Families vs. Blue Families. Some blog called ConWebBlog says they lied about a Pelosi/Hoyer op-ed in USA Today. Writer Alvin McEwan says they lied about a CNN program.

I do have excellent analytical abilities. Others have said the same. So thank you, I appreciate that. Always nice to get a compliment.

SpineCrusher said:
wonder how she’d feel if her children started running around the house saying “n*gger, n*gger, n*gger” at random…hey it’s not directed at anyone in particular, so it’s ok….right?

They already do that in black neighborhoods. Where have you been?

paulmdoro said:
By the way, a simple search reveals that Newsbusters has also been accused of lying. So, again, your feelings about partisan watchdog sites is determined by your own political beliefs.

but but but.. a lie is a lie right? Like this from MM…

O’Reilly Factor guest Caroline Heldman identifies “racial fearmongering machine” on the right
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201008050060

Boy they cherry picke the hell out of that one. I could only find the full video on one site and it is a partisan one too but… at least they posted the full video.

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/oreilly-blames-obama-failures-racial

Now, if that interview doesn’t get the point across then read the transcript….

http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100007214&docId=l:1236130446&isRss=true

The silly blond RACISTracist is telling the proud black REALIST that Obama’s falling poll numbers are all about race. Specifically, ‘white male independents’. Get that? The 70% approval rating Obama enjoyed when he took office was due to the TEMPORARY SUPPORT OF FUTURE RACISTS. I guess they’ve been busy flexing those hate muscles, huh?

Oh yea, I almost forgot that she knew exactly who to blame for convincing those independent to embrace their inner racist….. THE VAST RIGHT WING RACIAL FEARMONGERING MACHINE.

I wonder if Mediaite would care to take a closer look at those comments…. perhaps they would not mind exploring what Dr. Metzler said (paraphrasing)

IT AIN’T GOT SHIT TO DO WITH RACE! IT’S THE POLICIES! DAMN! (the incredulous look on his face was priceless)

VS. what Dr. Heldman said…

IF OBAMA WAS WHITE HIS APPROVAL WOULD STILL BE SKY-HIGH. IT’S ALL ABOUT HIS RACE. PERIOD.

Folks, if that ain’t the biggest crock-o-shit I’ve ever heard…. and make no mistake about it, that’s basically what she said. The disdain for the HC Bill… the questions about Obama’s birth cedrtificate… falling poll numbers…. all racial. What else could it be, right?

Hey Mediaite…. here’s a headline for you …

“RACIST DR. CAROLINE HELDMAN SAYS ‘WHITE-MALE INDEPENDENTS’ DISAGREE WITH OBAMA SIMPLY BECAUSE HE IS BLACK.”

Probably too much truth in that one, huh? Perhaps we could get Tommy Christopher to write it, since he doesn’t believe in the particular brand of RACISM displayed by Dr. Heldman.

Dr. Laura could start opening for Michael Richards. They could call it ‘the n word tour’.

Pablo said:
Try the Back button, FM.

Thanks Pablo.. I’ve remembered to do that in the past but i got flustered. It probably turned out better anyway..

paulmdoro said:
MM accuses them of lying, so no surprise there. Something about a Palin issue. Writer William Black accuses them of lying about their coverage of a book called Red Families vs. Blue Families. Some blog called ConWebBlog says they lied about a Pelosi/Hoyer op-ed in USA Today. Writer Alvin McEwan says they lied about a CNN program. I do have excellent analytical abilities. Others have said the same. So thank you, I appreciate that. Always nice to get a compliment.

I like paul… he tries. Although he never did answer my question from the other day (did I miss it?) about what came next. If Bush was to blame for 9/11…. after less than 8 months in the oval office then…
____ _____ ______ _______ ___ ____ _____ _____ _____ _____?

FearMonger said:
I’ll call her a RACIST if we can all agree that what Harry Reid said makes him a RACIST too.

No takers????

paulmdoro said:
I do have excellent analytical abilities.

Did you figure out whether any of those claims are valid?

What the heck, Fear Monger. I’ll fill in those blanks for you. “Then everything is still Bush’s fault.”

Dr Laura married outside her IQ range

Many marriages take place outside.

I didn’t know “Dr.” Laura was still on. Is she on shortwave or Mexican AM?

FearMonger said:
but but but.. a lie is a lie right? Like this from MM…

That’s what I am trying to get at. Each side is going to be able to find anecdotal evidence to support their claims. “Here’s proof that Media Matters lies.” “Well here’s proof that Newsbusters lies.” And people will believe what they want to. I’m sure the sites go after each other too, trading accusations. Your political sympathies will dictate how much weight you put into the respective claims and whether or not the proof is enough for you.

paulmdoro said:
That’s what I am trying to get at. Each side is going to be able to find anecdotal evidence to support their claims. “Here’s proof that Media Matters lies.” “Well here’s proof that Newsbusters lies.” And people will believe what they want to. I’m sure the sites go after each other too, trading accusations. Your political sympathies will dictate how much weight you put into the respective claims and whether or not the proof is enough for you.

Tell me paul… did the example I gave with that silly bigot Dr. Helman successfully meet this challenge which was issued by another silly bigot?

“Give me just one example of someone being accused of racism simply for disagreeing with Obama.”

Words, slights, slurs etc have no power in and of themselves, it is how they are uttered in context that matters. N*xxer for example is probably uttered millions of times per day by blacks in the US to no effect whatever, it is part of the urban vernacular. Let anyone outside of this group utter it and regardless of context or intent it automatically conveys vicitimization status and moral high ground to blacks and conversely the racist lower moral ground to the utterer. Ultimately it is used to excuse any and every manner of wrong doing by blacks.

It is today the full time job of many on the Left black or white to wait for this word to mentioned in ANY context, gin up false outrage and then score political advantage from it. They know that once you can hang the racist tag on ones opponent that person or group now must devote resources to knock it down rather than talk about whatever it was they were trying to communicate. The Journolist episode recently proved Leftists are acutely aware of the advantages of using this technique.

Schlesinger used the word in an expository way to deflate it of its power and to point out her callers misdirected angst at the fact her husband apparently doesnt fly into paroxsyms of rage on her behalf when he hears it . Schlesinger came to prominence nationally when for a brief time America was willing to hear someone force people to confront the outcomes of their own actions. As this message was more likely to be embraced by people who though they often fail actually attempt to live up to concrete standards of society (the RIght) it was clear to those on the Left that Dr Laura must be taken down and ever since she has worn a target on her back for the unwavering harassment by people who see America as a jumble of races and ethnicities rather than a united people. This non news is the perfect example. SImply use a word, not in an attacking or defamatory way, the Left springs into Defcon IV to paint this as the most heinous hurtful exchange every heard (until the next time they can gin up some more false outrage).

And it is epitomized by the misleading weasel headline displayed above.

FearMonger said:
Tell me paul… did the example I gave with that silly bigot Dr. Helman successfully meet this challenge which was issued by another silly bigot?

“Give me just one example of someone being accused of racism simply for disagreeing with Obama.”

It would appear so. You should be able to disagree with a president without being called names. It was stupid for people to be called un-American or a traitor for objecting to Bush’s policies. It is equally stupid to label someone a racist for objecting to Obama’s policies.

So Laura, if a black person called you inbred trailer trash with a Hitler fetish it wouldn’t bother you. You sure that PHD isn’t really a GED.

FearMonger said:
If Bush was to blame for 9/11…. after less than 8 months in the oval office then…
____ _____ ______ _______ ___ ____ _____ _____ _____ _____?

WHY DOES OBAMA STILL GET A FREE PASS AFTER 18 ?

Once they passed PORKULUS, they took ownership of this economy. Period. Blaming Bush for anything that has happened since then is BS. To use Obeyme’s analogy, they snatched the steering wheel and their ‘correction’ was the opposite of what it should have been. They zigged when they shold have zagged. They probably couldn’t help it, it seems (D)’s in general tend to err on the side of ‘liberal’ spending but but but… during the campaign Obama himself said he would cut spending…..NOT!

They went on a spending spree with American Taxpayer dollars and people have reacted appropriately by tightening their purse strings. And YES leftwing cherry-pickers….YES YES YES …conservatives were VERY upset (and vocal) about Bush’s spending too.

But but but…. here’s an INCONVENIENT TRUTH…..this graph was not created by Dubya but but but It clearly shows that we would have been better off ‘without recovery plan’, right?

http://michaelscomments.wordpress.com/2009/09/04/august-unemployment-data/

So… to quote a line from “A Few Good Men”…..

“Should we or should we not follow the advice of the galactically stupid”.

Blaming the previous president is old hat in politics. They all do it.

paulmdoro said:
It would appear so. You should be able to disagree with a president without being called names. It was stupid for people to be called un-American or a traitor for objecting to Bush’s policies. It is equally stupid to label someone a racist for objecting to Obama’s policies.

Thank you for your honesty paul. And I agree. I still hate Murtha (rip you a-hole) for what he said about Haditha and I do think shit like that is un-American and… by the same token…. I would never deny that there are some (hopefully a very few) racists who disagree with Obama simply because he is black.

I would also assert that some of those racists may be loyal democrats.

Again paul, thanks for your honesty. It’s nice when integrity is displayed. It’s a shame some of the Mediaite writers (and posters) can’t see without their race-colored glasses.

FearMonger said:
Thank you for your honesty paul. And I agree. I still hate Murtha (rip you a-hole) for what he said about Haditha and I do think shit like that is un-American and… by the same token…. I would never deny that there are some (hopefully a very few) racists who disagree with Obama simply because he is black.

I would also assert that some of those racists may be loyal democrats.

Again paul, thanks for your honesty. It’s nice when integrity is displayed. It’s a shame some of the Mediaite writers (and posters) can’t see without their race-colored glasses.

I agree with your assertion. Surely there are racist Democrats, independents, Libertarians, etc.

FearMonger said:
(rip you a-hole)

I meant that to read (R.I.P. you a-hole). Sorry if it sounded like I wanted to rip a corpse a new one…

FearMonger said:
I meant that to read (R.I.P. you a-hole). Sorry if it sounded like I wanted to rip a corpse a new one…

Hey I’m not here to judge what people do with their free time.

It used to be that the left-wing media could express outrage and call people racist and people would believe them. Sorry it does not work that way anymore.

Dr. Laura has a bigger audience than the left-wing media.

gordonbloyershow said:

Dr. Laura has a bigger audience than the left-wing media.

How does one measure that?

The American people are fortunate to have Gordon looking out for them.

So what is so wrong with the N word?? You hear much worse on TV,radio and out in the public. Get over it already. The liberals use words worse than that when they talk about the conservatives, teabaggers, Palin. Pretty soon you become deaf to all this name calling and it sounds so stupid and laughable. The N word is mild compared to what comes out of the mouths of the far left.

Asa licensed psychologist, I and my colleagues have always considered Laura a total fraud. She does not have a degree even remotely related to counseling or psychology, hates homosexuals and anyone else who isn’t part of her upper-crust group of no talent low lives. While the medical and social research literature clearly proves that sexual orientation is the result of brain based behavior, often has a genetic component, and has never been shown to relate to any family dynamics or social factors. There is a huge wealth of literature, particularly in German that proves this woman is a liar or at the least has never exposed herself to anything more academic than Fred Phelps.

Her use of the N word is more than offensive. She should be banned from the airways and considered what she really is a traitor.

Norman Murphy if you are a psychologist, I am the Pope. My guess is that your name isn’t Norman Murphy either. Go back to playing a doctor on Facebook.

Yeah like Gordon plays a political commentator on the Internet. It’s so easy to pretend.

Hey Norm, is this YOU? I guess not because this Norman Murphy is a psychiatrist not a psychologist, there is a difference you know?

Psychiatrist – Cooperstown, NY
Physician Addresses 1 Atwell Rd
Bassett Healthcare
Cooperstown, NY 13326

Here’s a humdinger headline for ya’…..

“Black activist blames ‘Fox Jews’ for fanning ire”

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/7146422.html

Now THAT’S some ‘straight up racism’ rite dare…. I don’t care who ya’ are!

snippet: “”You call me a white hating bigot? Let me tell you who King Samir really is,” he said, describing himself an activist and hip hop artist who spends most of his time caring for his children.

“That’s what you don’t hear from Fox Jews, I mean Fox News,” he said.

He told us ‘who King Samir really is’ all right! YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP PEOPLE!

notsofast said:
They already do that in black neighborhoods. Where have you been?

really, which neighbourhoods are you referring to? Please cite specific examples.

Oh brother, listen to any performance and that’s all you hear.
*yawn*, nothing to see hear.
On the other hand any time some black comedian does their act, there is always the predictable “white folks” riff somewhere.
Who cares?

Catrice Allen-Reese said:
I am very offended when a white person tells a black person that they are “hyper-sensitive” about racism. Shouldn’t they be? Blacks have been oppressed and discriminated against because of their race for hundreds of years. And, yes, discrimination and racism still exist in today’s “post racial” society. Racism is deeply embedded in the fabric of this society; it is the foundation upon which this country was built. The difference in a black comedian saying”nigga” and a white person saying “nigger” is the historical connotation of the word. Nigger was used by white folks as a derogatory comment. It was used to taunt and terrorize and it usually accompanied violence. Dr. Laura was out of line and if there is any question about whether racism exists one need only to read these post. Racism is not only alive; it is flourishing. But, I don’t care if my neighbor is racist what does concern me is the institutionalized racism that is still prevalent in this country. Blacks are still under and/or unemployed at a higher rate than whites. They still receive an unequal education. People are FURIOUS about Obama’s presidency and it isn’t because of his policy; it is because his skin color. Dr Laura did not surprise me!

You are one of the morons who somehow didn’t get the message sent by LBJ.

Mediaite. a bunch of racist white males defending racism, big surprise not.

“Cobra said:
Welcome to Mediaite. As you already notice, it is a hostile environment for anybody who doesn’t unwaveringly support the perpetuation of the White Male Power Structure..”

Spot on.

brokenheart said:
So what is so wrong with the N word?? You hear much worse on TV,radio and out in the public. Get over it already. The liberals use words worse than that when they talk about the conservatives, teabaggers, Palin. Pretty soon you become deaf to all this name calling and it sounds so stupid and laughable. The N word is mild compared to what comes out of the mouths of the far left.

You apparently have no knowledge of the 18th, 19th or 20th century….

I don’t think it’s fair to accuse all white people of being responsible for black problems. According to Rev. Wright and his best friend Louis Farrakhan, it’s those damned Jews.

Catrice Allen-Reese said:
People are FURIOUS about Obama’s presidency and it isn’t because of his policy; it is because his skin color.

Thanks for reminding me about this post pyrope. I wonder if Tommy Christopher will read this and… if he does… if he’ll acknowledge it.

What’s the tally up to now Tommy? The hits just keep coming! Real men admit when they are wrong, Tommy. Especially when they say something completely asinine.

What I read about you over at Big Journalism is absolutely spot-on….. especially the comments.

http://bigjournalism.com/retracto/2010/08/11/correction-request-tommy-christopher-mediaite/

Norman Murphy said:
Asa licensed psychologist, I and my colleagues have always considered Laura a total fraud. She does not have a degree even remotely related to counseling or psychology, hates homosexuals and anyone else who isn’t part of her upper-crust group of no talent low lives. While the medical and social research literature clearly proves that sexual orientation is the result of brain based behavior, often has a genetic component, and has never been shown to relate to any family dynamics or social factors. There is a huge wealth of literature, particularly in German that proves this woman is a liar or at the least has never exposed herself to anything more academic than Fred Phelps. Her use of the N word is more than offensive. She should be banned from the airways and considered what she really is a traitor.

You tell ‘em, doctor.

No fan of Dr. L, but her “philosophical” point is well made and fair.
Her apology is more disturbing than her comments.
She crumpled to Political over-correctness.

MEDIAITE really scr3wed the pooch on this story.

Shame on you.

Richard Gray Foster said:
No fan of Dr. L, but her “philosophical” point is well made and fair.Her apology is more disturbing than her comments.She crumpled to Political over-correctness. MEDIAITE really scr3wed the pooch on this story. Shame on you.

I tend to agree. But I didn’t hear the call. Her larger point about the hypocrisy and double-standard is well taken, but she should have been more sympathetic to the woman’s dilemma. But then Dr. Laura is almost never sympathetic to her caller’s problems. This time the caller was a black woman and the subject was race. Laura should have known she was stepping into a minefield and a whole host of ideologically motivated critics are waiting for an opportunity to go at her.

If that’s her way of helping patients she’s gives the title Dr. a whole new meaning. Her apology was pathetic and hypocritical. Where do I sign the petition?

valkyrie101 said:
And Dr. Laura is a therapist, she gets much more license to use the N word in my opinion. But if she is suggesting that black woman should not marry white men unless they are willing to deal with sly racism, that’s nonsense.

The example the caller gave wasn’t one of “sly racism”, just like asking a Jewish person what his people have bar mitzvahs for isn’t. If someone had called her a nigger, you know full well she would have led with that. She tried to throw in “what about the n-word?” when Dr. Laura shot her down because she was upset that Dr. Laura wasn’t paying her lip service. Explain how you arrived at “sly racism” from what you heard.

gordonbloyershow said:
Don’t blame Dr. Laura, this post is by the deranged Glynnis. There must be something wrong with her ears.

No tirade or rant. Nothing to apoligize for. Dr. Laura will be on the air tomorrow and for many years to come.

Yeah, Glynnis pointed a gun at “Dr” Whore-a’s head and forced her to say “nigger” 11 times and say a woman shouldn’t marry outside her race.

You’re so full of shit it’s coming out of your ears.

Norman Murphy said:
While the medical and social research literature clearly proves that sexual orientation is the result of brain based behavior, often has a genetic component, and has never been shown to relate to any family dynamics or social factors.

Thank you. A good laugh is just what I needed after a long day at work. Social research literature clearly proves anything? Even the medical research is inconclusive, because no one’s been able to prove the brain-based behavior is an ultimate cause rather than an effect of something else. Nor has a genetic component been proven. It’s all just supposition. But I can’t really be surprised that someone who makes a living as a psuedo-scientist would attempt to misuse the principles of science to lend credence to whatever claims he makes.

atreyue said:
The example the caller gave wasn’t one of “sly racism”, just like asking a Jewish person what his people have bar mitzvahs for isn’t. If someone had called her a nigger, you know full well she would have led with that. She tried to throw in “what about the n-word?” when Dr. Laura shot her down because she was upset that Dr. Laura wasn’t paying her lip service. Explain how you arrived at “sly racism” from what you heard.

Sly racism has noting to do with using the N word, so why would she have to lead with that? Chances are, unless she has a history of paranoia, she correctly surmised that something was wrong with a few of her husband’s friends. She was frustrated because her sucker husband did not defend her. If Laura was saying, if you can not deal with ocassional racist commentary do not marry a white man. Well, that is good advice. Ask Jackie Robinson. Nobody took the N word with more grace than him.

valkyrie101 said:
Sly racism has noting to do with using the N word, so why would she have to lead with that? Chances are, unless she has a history of paranoia, she correctly surmised that something was wrong with a few of her husband’s friends. She was frustrated because her sucker husband did not defend her. If Laura was saying, if you can not deal with ocassional racist commentary do not marry a white man. Well, that is good advice. Ask Jackie Robinson. Nobody took the N word with more grace than him.

I’m saying she would have led with someone using the n-word if that had happened. Black people have spent decades telling White America that it can’t hope to understand anything having to do with Black culture without it being explained by Black people, and even then you won’t really “get it”. Strangely enough, that increases the likelihood that people will ask Black people for explanations. You don’t really have the right to then get upset about it. “Do Black people like doing this or that?” can be innocuous. “Why are Black people so darn good at basketball?”…not so much. She doesn’t have to be paranoid to be quick to mistake this. It’s never been more obvious than now that claiming racism against someone else gives you the upper hand. It’s no secret why so many people – including the author of this article – are so eager to do so.

gordonbloyershow said:
It used to be that the left-wing media could express outrage and call people racist and people would believe them. Sorry it does not work that way anymore.

Dr. Laura has a bigger audience than the left-wing media.

The right wing can say anything racist and they stay on the air… Beck Limbaugh, Laura etc. But if the left says something racist their plug is pulled.

Free Speech is probably the most important of all of our rights, because it assures open debate and increases the likelihood of people making better decisions–made from the broadest knowledge and experiences in existence.

Unfortunately, in practice, political correctness has become a more important factor in deciding what gets debated and when it is cut off, totally overriding the right of free speech. To make it worse, the rules of political correctness are not even written down and they are not the same for all people.

I can remember when people spoke freely, without concern for “sensitivity.” Sure there were bad effects, but you knew where people stood and what they meant. You would run across people that used bad language, but that made it easier to recognize these were not people that would enter your life, you needed only a civil business relationship with them.

Lately, It seems as though all the headlines, firings, resignations and apologies in the news cycles have been the result of violations of (assumed) political correctness. It would be nice if we could have an open debate on racism where we could all be on the same page.

She did not make racist comments. She was commenting on how it is ok to use a word if you are one race but not another. How racist is it to say it is ok to say or do ANYTHING for one race but not another. Sort of like white people are prejudiced but black people aren’t? Give me a break. Shame on Mediate for taking this whole conversation out of context. The caller on the line played the same card.

Typical racist actions and attitude from the caller and Mediate. There will always be stupid people to find something to sue over, be offended over or put a chip on their shoulder before they jump into the middle of where they know there are chip knockers.

Quit whining stupid lady. If you can’t take the heat – get out of the kitchen.

mcwhatever said:
She did not make racist comments. She was commenting on how it is ok to use a word if you are one race but not another. How racist is it to say it is ok to say or do ANYTHING for one race but not another. Sort of like white people are prejudiced but black people aren’t? Give me a break. Shame on Mediate for taking this whole conversation out of context. The caller on the line played the same card.

Typical racist actions and attitude from the caller and Mediate. There will always be stupid people to find something to sue over, be offended over or put a chip on their shoulder before they jump into the middle of where they know there are chip knockers.

Quit whining stupid lady. If you can’t take the heat – get out of the kitchen.

Her whole rant was racists. Its a derogatory word and she used it over and over again and she knew better. She later realized her mistake and apologized. She didn’t even tried to help the caller but got on her own tangent about blacks on HBO. She spends more time putting down callers than trying to help them. She needs some help herself.

Tony Westover said:
*LOL* What a libelous headline. Dr. Laura didn’t go on a racist rant; she just spoke the truth.

It’s only libel if it’s not true, peckerhead. “Dr” Whore-ah IS a racist, so deal with it.

Read the headline…then read the article and listen to the call. Mediaite has stepped over the line. Start presenting the misinformation from the left as facts and many of us will drop you like a bad habit.

Moderate said:
“calling homosexuality “a biological mistake.””

Anyone must admit that if you have the desires of a female and the sex organs of a male, biology went haywire somewhere.

Based on decades of research, clinical practice, and more than 450 authoritative references, homosexuality is not a “lifestyle.” Homosexuality and sexual behavior differences result from sexual center variations in the brain. Homosexuality, excepting adult onsets caused by brain changes due to viruses, tumors, and injuries, are related to hormonal conditioning of the developing brain during fetal development. Homosexuals, when compared to heterosexuals, differ in hormonal differences and responses, uncontrollable reflexes, functional MRI readings, neuroanatomy, etc. Using thousands of subjects, Bell and Weinberg, social psychologists, state “Among both men and women in our study, there is a powerful link between gender nonconformity and the development or homosexuality.” . . . “At the moment, a large body of convincing research appears to suggest a biological foundation for homosexuality.”
Same-sexed partnerships are known to exist in higher mammals and in many intelligent species. Over 250 species show same-sexed attraction and some life long bonding.

Many who are negative to homosexuality are in no manner homophobes. Particularly during adolescence and early adult phases, homophobia presents itself mostly among those who fear their own homosexuality. Research shows many “heterosexuals” vehemently opposed to homosexuality, using scientific measures, respond the same as homosexuals. Physicians and psychologists tend to see these individuals as self-loathing homosexuals. Anti-homosexual religious zealots are either unfamiliar with or deny the voluminous scientific research on sexual orientation.

atreyue said:
Thank you. A good laugh is just what I needed after a long day at work. Social research literature clearly proves anything? Even the medical research is inconclusive, because no one’s been able to prove the brain-based behavior is an ultimate cause rather than an effect of something else. Nor has a genetic component been proven. It’s all just supposition. But I can’t really be surprised that someone who makes a living as a psuedo-scientist would attempt to misuse the principles of science to lend credence to whatever claims he makes.

atreyue said:
Thank you. A good laugh is just what I needed after a long day at work. Social research literature clearly proves anything? Even the medical research is inconclusive, because no one’s been able to prove the brain-based behavior is an ultimate cause rather than an effect of something else. Nor has a genetic component been proven. It’s all just supposition. But I can’t really be surprised that someone who makes a living as a psuedo-scientist would attempt to misuse the principles of science to lend credence to whatever claims he makes.

Based on decades of research, clinical practice, and more than 450 authoritative references, homosexuality is not a “lifestyle.” Homosexuality and sexual behavior differences result from sexual center variations in the brain. Homosexuality, excepting adult onsets caused by brain changes due to viruses, tumors, and injuries, are related to hormonal conditioning of the developing brain during fetal development. Homosexuals, when compared to heterosexuals, differ in hormonal differences and responses, uncontrollable reflexes, functional MRI readings, neuroanatomy, etc. Using thousands of subjects, Bell and Weinberg, social psychologists, state “Among both men and women in our study, there is a powerful link between gender nonconformity and the development or homosexuality.” . . . “At the moment, a large body of convincing research appears to suggest a biological foundation for homosexuality.”
Same-sexed partnerships are known to exist in higher mammals and in many intelligent species. Over 250 species show same-sexed attraction and some life long bonding.

mcwhatever said:
She did not make racist comments. She was commenting on how it is ok to use a word if you are one race but not another. How racist is it to say it is ok to say or do ANYTHING for one race but not another. Sort of like white people are prejudiced but black people aren’t? Give me a break. Shame on Mediate for taking this whole conversation out of context. The caller on the line played the same card.

Typical racist actions and attitude from the caller and Mediate. There will always be stupid people to find something to sue over, be offended over or put a chip on their shoulder before they jump into the middle of where they know there are chip knockers.

You obviously have never read any of the scientific literature or social science literature in peer reviewed journals or authored books specifically on point about sexuality and biology. You are in a word, “reprehensible.” You are almost as bad as Laura. She doesn’t have a degree in any social science area, is not a licensed psychologist, counselor, or therapist in any state in the union. Her degree is in physiology. She has been promulgating Christian theories about homosexuals for years, which are contradicted by thousands of references in the world wide literature. If you want to have many of these references and an article with footnotes, do not hesitate to contact me at dr.murphy@att.net.

Quit whining stupid lady. If you can’t take the heat – get out of the kitchen.

gordonbloyershow said:
Dr. Laura has a bigger audience than the left-wing media.

Hitler had many followers also does that mean his drivel, hatred, and meglomania, were somehow better than that of Dr. Laura, the physiologist who is not and never will be a qualified psychologist, psychiatrist, or even a credible front office clerk.

gordonbloyershow said:
Norman Murphy if you are a psychologist, I am the Pope. My guess is that your name isn’t Norman Murphy either. Go back to playing a doctor on Facebook.

Well Gordon, I am now retired; but had a licensed psychologist in California and Massachusetts for over three decades. I am a Ph.D. graduate from the University of Washington where I wrote a dissertation on sexual orientation for the Univesity of Washington School of Medicine, worked as a psychologist for California Polytechnic State University, the Board of Prison Terms, Superior Court, and taught psychology at the University of Hong Kong, California Polytechnic State University, and American International University, among many others. I have testified on sexual orientation before courts, boards, in academic programs, etc. You should do your homework Gordon Blow Job. You must to be a on your knees expert on homosexuality. You certainly have never been recognized for your work here in the U.S. and abroad. Do your homework or send me an email and I will send you a copy of “Sexual Orientation: Science and Society.” dr.murphy@att.net.

Norman Murphy said:
“At the moment, a large body of convincing research appears to suggest a biological foundation for homosexuality.”

This one line shows just how strongly the “evidence” proves what you claim to be fact. The reseach is “convincing”, yet it only “appears to suggest” your claim. Showing a correlation between two things and claiming that one caused the other are very different. This could all easily show that someone who leads a homosexual lifestyle develops those changes in their biology at a result. Your social psychologists are obviously aware of this, thus their careful suggestion of biological causality instead of claiming it.

Having a black President in office is surely flushing all you racists and Uncle Tom’s out of the woodwork. You’re all hot and bothered, now and just getting ridiculous. It’s disgusting. For your information, MOST black people from their late 30’s and older are offended by the use of the n- word. It is very ignorant to believe the behavior of teenagers and entertainers represent the average black person, especially the average black achiever. There are those of us who enjoy the performances of certain entertainers but also actually cringe at the number of times that they throw that word around. Why do they throw that word around so much in comedy and music? WHITE people are paying them to do it and they are corporate puppets. The values of American society as a whole have gone down NOT just in the black community and everyone is out for the easy dollar with no thoughts of responsibility or the impact of their behavior on the fans who emulate them. Can you say Lady Gaga? Kesha? Britney Spears? Pam Anderson? Kurt Cobain? Charlie Sheen? Marshall Mathers? Heidi Fleiss? Woody Allen? Should I assume that these people’s behaviors represent those of the average white person, then visit a white person in their home and keep pressing them about how much cocaine white people use? Should I believe that I because I’ve frequently witnessed white boys wearing baggy pants that sag off their behinds, blasting rap music (they are the largest base of consumers of this music, btw) and emulating “gangsta” behavior and mannerisms, that this is the typical behavior of all white people? What about the white girls who are now neck rolling, finger-snapping and fighting constantly? Or should I go to my white neighbor’s house and ask them how many times their daughters have been on “Girls Gone Wild”?

You all may write very well and be extremely articulate but your klan’s robes are sticking way out from underneath your business suits.

Oh and I used to like Laura, but not after this stunt. She can cross me right off her list of fans. No matter what word someone is using or behavior they are exhibiting in your home, if you find it offensive, they should refrain and your spouse should back you 100% – assuming your happiness and well-being is one of their top priorities.

Catrice Allen-Reese said:
I am very offended when a white person tells a black person that they are “hyper-sensitive” about racism. Shouldn’t they be? Blacks have been oppressed and discriminated against because of their race for hundreds of years. And, yes, discrimination and racism still exist in today’s “post racial” society. Racism is deeply embedded in the fabric of this society; it is the foundation upon which this country was built. The difference in a black comedian saying”nigga” and a white person saying “nigger” is the historical connotation of the word. Nigger was used by white folks as a derogatory comment. It was used to taunt and terrorize and it usually accompanied violence. Dr. Laura was out of line and if there is any question about whether racism exists one need only to read these post. Racism is not only alive; it is flourishing. But, I don’t care if my neighbor is racist what does concern me is the institutionalized racism that is still prevalent in this country. Blacks are still under and/or unemployed at a higher rate than whites. They still receive an unequal education. People are FURIOUS about Obama’s presidency and it isn’t because of his policy; it is because his skin color. Dr Laura did not surprise me!

GREAT! post, Ms. Allen-Reece. Sadly, most of these people’s minds are tightly closed and we will probably converse with Martians before they (even attempt to) understand our perspective.

I have to agree with Rev. Wright and his buddy, Louis Farrakhan. The troubles in the black community can all be traced to those damned Jews.

atreyue said:

Let me tell you what institutional racism is: welfare. It’s indoctrinating Black people to believe that we can never get ahead in life, so why try? Telling us the deck’s just too stacked against us, and it’s all Whitey’s fault. Nothing we can do about it. The amazingly funny thing about it is that in the pre-civil rights 1900s, when all the intellectual progressives were referring to Blacks as an inferior race and Whitey really WAS against us, our community was stronger, worked harder and in harmony.

Although I agree 100% on the statements above, Brotha, you still need to check yourself!!

As long as we think in terms of race, we’ll never conquer racism. Learn to stop defining yourself as Black and trying to classify everyone. You’ll see that the stereotypes and misconceptions fall away once you stop trying define them.

I am sickened that a black man could type this on a public forum so that whites can smugly read it and sit back and think that the playing field is level for all of us since a black man said so.
I experience institutionalized racism every day. I don’t know what world you’re living in. Every single black person that I know who has achieved a lot is the cream of the crop. They are smart, dynamic, hard-working and have experience and/or degrees out the a**. However, I know many white BOOBS who have been rewarded with more success in life than they could have earned in 3 lifetimes!!!! How, did they get there? The legacy of the white power structure is still alive, dominating and controlling lives. Sooooooo many white people have been given opportunities because of who they know, it is not even funny. And guess what, if they mess up, they are given umpteen more chances before they are given the boot. Let a black person mess up, they are out of there so fast it’ll make your head spin. I am in no way trying to imply that there aren’t hard-working white folks out there, but I have never met a black person whose achievements were just handed to them, but I have met many white people whose were so favored. Some are proud of it, and some try to cover it up until you get to know them and are like, “Well damn, your boss is your brother’s father-in-law. That explains that $15K raise you got last year although half the day you sit around shooting the breeze.”

My apology for posting this comment twice, but hopefully this format will make more sense. I’m new to this forum and don’t see an edit option yet.

atreyue said:
Let me tell you what institutional racism is: welfare. It’s indoctrinating Black people to believe that we can never get ahead in life, so why try? Telling us the deck’s just too stacked against us, and it’s all Whitey’s fault. Nothing we can do about it. The amazingly funny thing about it is that in the pre-civil rights 1900s, when all the intellectual progressives were referring to Blacks as an inferior race and Whitey really WAS against us, our community was stronger, worked harder and in harmony.

c_nc said:
Although I agree 100% on the statements above, Brotha, you still need to check yourself!!

atreyue said:
As long as we think in terms of race, we’ll never conquer racism. Learn to stop defining yourself as Black and trying to classify everyone. You’ll see that the stereotypes and misconceptions fall away once you stop trying define them.

c_nc said:
I am sickened that a black man could type this on a public forum so that whites can smugly read it and sit back and think that the playing field is level for all of us since a black man said so.
I experience institutionalized racism every day. I don’t know what world you’re living in. Every single black person that I know who has achieved a lot is the cream of the crop. They are smart, dynamic, hard-working and have experience and/or degrees out the a**. However, I know many white BOOBS who have been rewarded with more success in life than they could have earned in 3 lifetimes!!!! How, did they get there? The legacy of the white power structure is still alive, dominating and controlling lives. Sooooooo many white people have been given opportunities because of who they know, it is not even funny. And guess what, if they mess up, they are given umpteen more chances before they are given the boot. Let a black person mess up, they are out of there so fast it’ll make your head spin. I am in no way trying to imply that there aren’t hard-working white folks out there, but I have never met a black person whose achievements were just handed to them, but I have met many white people whose were so favored. Some are proud of it, and some try to cover it up until you get to know them and are like, “Well damn, your boss is your brother’s father-in-law. That explains that $15K raise you got last year although half the day you sit around shooting the breeze.”

As an interracial dating expert, I thought Dr. Laura’s comments were beyond insensitive, not just the N-word rant, but that is it was so misplaced. This was not a conversation about being PC or even racist, it was a woman with a real marital problem that was reaching out for advice, which is really hard for most people and instead of really listening and helping her with her problem Dr. Laura uses Jade to put forth her own agenda. Dr. Laura when it becomes more about ratings than helping people I think its time to hang up your microphone and do something else. People call relationship experts to be heard and for understanding, Dr. Laura offered this woman neither.

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Dr, Laura, thank you for saying what a lot of us are thinking but afraid to say. This woman, appearing to be asking for your advice, actually appears to have “set you up”. I don’t know why this happens to so many people who are merely attempting to “do their job” I watched the video & I am suspicious as to why this woman (black) who was asking for her advice on “race relations” should turn on her when Dr. Laura merely stated the truth, she had no reason to “insult” anyone & yet, this person replied “I can’t believe you used that word on radio, etc. etc. ” Well, if you don’t want a true answer instead of expecting Dr. Laura to pander to you for “good ratings” then, for God’s sake, don’t ask such a stupid question on the air, besides how old is this woman that she can’t handle any confrontations with her friends who make racist remarks. Gee, how about the black panthers who were screaming at the white women for walking with black men, yelling obscenities, etc. at their “brothers” for not staying in their own race, ..you mean, that’s OK, and…they got off & will probably act up again at the next voting station in November. Don’t let it bother you Dr. Laura, it was a set up & you know it. Keep up the good work & just let it slide, we’ll be hearing more racially motivated comments the closer it gets to election day. God Bless America!

Helen Nordo said:
Dr, Laura, thank you for saying what a lot of us are thinking but afraid to say. This woman, appearing to be asking for your advice, actually appears to have “set you up”. I don’t know why this happens to so many people who are merely attempting to “do their job” I watched the video & I am suspicious as to why this woman (black) who was asking for her advice on “race relations” should turn on her when Dr. Laura merely stated the truth, she had no reason to “insult” anyone & yet, this person replied “I can’t believe you used that word on radio, etc. etc. ” Well, if you don’t want a true answer instead of expecting Dr. Laura to pander to you for “good ratings” then, for God’s sake, don’t ask such a stupid question on the air, besides how old is this woman that she can’t handle any confrontations with her friends who make racist remarks. Gee, how about the black panthers who were screaming at the white women for walking with black men, yelling obscenities, etc. at their “brothers” for not staying in their own race, ..you mean, that’s OK, and…they got off & will probably act up again at the next voting station in November. Don’t let it bother you Dr. Laura, it was a set up & you know it. Keep up the good work & just let it slide, we’ll be hearing more racially motivated comments the closer it gets to election day. God Bless America!

It’s a challenge for a conscious African-American who’s NOT on Rupert Murdoch’s or the RNC’s payroll to respond to all the anti-minority bile spewed in the comment section of this blog. It’s akin to playing “whack-a-mole”. The usual suspects (Gordonbloyer, timzank, writer, pryope, etc.) are too easy, because they’d probably defend cross-burning as “evangelical outreach to the vision impaired”, or American Chattel Slavery as “a visa-less job program for African guest workers.”

That’s how far off the cliff these cyberklanners have leaped. They’re online Archie Bunkers.

When we get folks like Helen Nordo post, however…I want to engage them. I want to find out why they’ve come to these conclusions.

Helen, exactly WHY would “God Bless America” over a White Conservative talk radio host using the N-word eleven times? Is there support in the scriptures for this belief?

Helen, King Shamir Shabazz, the “scary Black man of the moment” for Fox News is regarded as a crackpot by the vast majority of EVERYBODY. You do understand that, right? You do understand that You Tube exists, and you can easily find all sorts of people making all sorts of statements, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hVvMfgvocE
Do these folks represent ALL White people, Helen?

Hell, those guys sound like the posters on Mediaite.

How about these folks, Helen?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hVvMfgvocE

Helen, if you truly believe that Dr. Laura did nothing wrong, why did she apologize? There are obviously MILLIONS of White Americans, including yourself, who AGREE with her opinions on race. Look at the rally of support she’s receiving right here today? And Helen, why stop with Dr. Laura? As you can see from the video, there are plenty of OTHER White Americans who have absolutely no problem with using the N-Word in public. Do they echo your beliefs as well?

One thing I do agree with you on, however…you are ABSOLUTELY right that the Southern Strategy of the GOP will be pumping out as many racially motivated comments as they can to try to scare White moderates from the polls, and White seniors TO the polls. They are SHAMELESS. Unoriginal, but shameless.

–Cobra

THIS LADY IS RUDE -INSENSITIVE -OBNOXIOUS-ARROGANT……AND TTHOSE ARE HER GOOD QUALITIES.
IT SOUNDED LIKE SHE WAS READING HER APOLOGY……RACIST BITCH

Cobra, you shouldn’t blame all whites. As I said, Rev. Wright and Farrakhan have told us it’s the Jews. Those are the ones we should be blaming.

Cobra, if you read Morgan’s comments of 8/14, they are essentially how I feel. Look, we can never have peace with each other if there is always that “underlying” anger towards how blacks were treated in the past. Cobra, how about jewish people, they were incinerated & looked down upon as “money hungry & greedy” Everyone used the term “Gee, maybe we’ll get it cheaper if we can jew em down”. I heard this said all over when I was growing up, the poor guy who had a chinese laundry was usually picked on & laughed at. I lived in an Italian neighborhood & I was the only tall girl in my class (and did I mention skinny) the boys & girls ignored me because I didn’t “fit” in, I knew I was different so I just stayed away from them & kept studying. When I grew up, the same young boys were shocked & surprised at how I changed, & were very ashamed at how I was treated. People evolve, people make mistakes, but you can’t live with hatred in your heart or it will destroy the very essence of what you are. Blacks think that everyone looks down on them for their color, I don’t believe that. I have conversations with people of all color & I never feel as if they are different. I feel sorry that this extreme sensitivity towards race continues, considering the goals we have reached to end those bad feelings. I pray that black people will listen to their own feelings & not be swayed by what these “groups” are feeding the young ones. We should be able to talk to each other freely without fear since, when fear enters into the equation, then there is avoidance & that is what we must stop. You cannot be overprotective of everyone whose feelings get hurt, it’s like the mommy whose sissy son runs in crying everytime he is called “sissy”; after a time, when the mother is no longer around, this kid will have to go out & fight his own battles. So many people are suffering with real problems out there, why always be on the defensive? If the whites hate the blacks so much, why are there so many bi-racial families? We should always be able to speak our minds, we’re a smart nation & most of us are well schooled, there is no more burning at the stake, lynching, tar & feathering, etc. The past is the past. I took a mental beating, as a child, from bullies that were cruel to anyone that was different but that made me MORE determined to BE THE BEST THAT I COULD BE & my life turned out fine; We can only grow as a country if we work together & ignore the small stuff, we have real things to worry about besides being called a name that is disagreeable. You sound like an intelligent young man, I am sure you know better than that…and I always close my comments with God Bless America!

c_nc said:
I am sickened that a black man could type this on a public forum so that whites can smugly read it and sit back and think that the playing field is level for all of us since a black man said so.
I experience institutionalized racism every day. I don’t know what world you’re living in. Every single black person that I know who has achieved a lot is the cream of the crop. They are smart, dynamic, hard-working and have experience and/or degrees out the a**. However, I know many white BOOBS who have been rewarded with more success in life than they could have earned in 3 lifetimes!!!! How, did they get there? The legacy of the white power structure is still alive, dominating and controlling lives. Sooooooo many white people have been given opportunities because of who they know, it is not even funny. And guess what, if they mess up, they are given umpteen more chances before they are given the boot. Let a black person mess up, they are out of there so fast it’ll make your head spin. I am in no way trying to imply that there aren’t hard-working white folks out there, but I have never met a black person whose achievements were just handed to them, but I have met many white people whose were so favored. Some are proud of it, and some try to cover it up until you get to know them and are like, “Well damn, your boss is your brother’s father-in-law. That explains that $15K raise you got last year although half the day you sit around shooting the breeze.

Have you considered that what you describing here may not be about racism at all? It’s always who you know, no matter what race you are. America used to be a place where you could be dedicated and work hard and get farther than where you are right now, even if you didn’t make it to the top. Now each job description has levels biult into it so that they can promote you without really promoting you at all, with maybe a 10 to 15 cent/hour raise to mark the occasion. This isn’t the legacy of the white power structure. This is the legacy of the power structure, period. The haves and the middle-management always spend all their time trying to maintain their position, and that means not giving those lower on the totem pole a chance to rise above their own current position. Here’s the trick that you’re missing. They’ve made you focus on race as the motivating factor for this. Ever wonder why? It’s because they want to be able to identify the people you should hold responsible. Democrats don’t just want to to blame the rich, they want you to direct your ire specifically toward the republican rich. I went to Yale for 3 years. Trust me, there’s absolutely no difference between the pigs and the farmers. They all understand that the only way they can hold on to and increase their power is to take as much of yours from you as they can or trick you into handing it over to them. All you are to them (and all they ever want you to be) is a vote. Why is it that supposedly it’s the republicans that can’t take having a Black man in the Oval Office, yet all the racist quotes about him are from politicians on the left? Am I the Uncle Tom for pointing that out, or is it Obama and all the other left blacks of prominence who were SOOOOOO quick to give Clinton and Reid passes? Those same people who were gracious enough to forgive Senator Byrd for ‘past’ transgressions seem all too eager to condemn the whole tea party and all republicans for ‘racist elements’. I suggest you get wise to the game. Obama, Sharpton, Jesses Jackson, Tom Joyner, etc all know the score. They’re more than content to live in the big house and get PAID in return for making sure YOU stay in the fields. managing and directing your anger is paying their bills quite handsomely. What have any of them really done to positively affect the Black community? Don’t let these people force you to compromise your rights and responsibilities as a person and American citizen by forcing you onto the race tangent. Beat a new path instead of the one they bought BET and pay all the crossover (as in EPMD) artists and celebrities to make sure you follow. Every opportunity that’s available to every other race is available equally to us. Recognize that for the rich to get richer, the poor have to stay poor and the middle class has to become poor.

Helen Nordo said:
Cobra, if you read Morgan’s comments of 8/14, they are essentially how I feel. Look, we can never have peace with each other if there is always that “underlying” anger towards how blacks were treated in the past.

Helen,

Where does this underlying anger spring from?

Could it be from politicians engaging in:

Confederate History Month Proclamations?
http://www.mediaite.com/online/jon-meacham-confederate-history-month-is-the-rights-answer-to-obama/

The OBSESSION with trying to smear Shirley Sherrod with ANYTHING
http://www.mediaite.com/online/gop-congressman-steve-king-wants-new-shirley-sherrod-smear-investigated/

The DENIGRATION of African-American Historical figures:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/gop-senators-unsure-about-this-radical-thurgood-marshall-person/

The FOX NEWS SOUTHERN STRATEGY attacking Black people 24/7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY04gIruZ4E

Not to mention Helen, the actual PRICE of being Black in America:
From discrimination in Housing, Employment, Lending, Health Care and the Legal System there are ACROSS THE BOARD disadvantages to being BLACK in America.

And here you are making statements like:

“Blacks think that everyone looks down on them for their color, I don’t believe that. “

“I feel sorry that this extreme sensitivity towards race continues, considering the goals we have reached to end those bad feelings. I pray that black people will listen to their own feelings & not be swayed by what these “groups” are feeding the young ones.”

What goals have “we” reached? As I recall, there weren’t too many White Conservatives marching FOR Civil Rights. I know Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Barry Goldwater, William Reinquist, William F. Buckley, George Wallace, Bull Connor, Lester Maddox, Strom Thurmond and a WHOLE HOST of others standing against it. You pray that black people will listen to “their own feelings”….but how SHOULD they feel when they see this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2tON2RkTqM

Helen, Dr. Laura has “FREEDOM of SPEECH.” She doesn’t face legal action or criminal charges for saying the N-word 11 times on public airwaves. She’s not even subject to being fined by the FCC.

What YOU, and apparently Morgan are looking for, is AMNESTY from CRITICISM of your Speech.

What on earth makes you think you deserve that?

–Cobra

Based on decades of research, clinical practice, and more than 450 authoritative references, homosexuality is not a “lifestyle.” Homosexuality and sexual behavior differences result from sexual center variations in the brain. Homosexuality, excepting adult onsets caused by brain changes due to viruses, tumors, and injuries, are related to hormonal conditioning of the developing brain during fetal development. Homosexuals, when compared to heterosexuals, differ in hormonal differences and responses, uncontrollable reflexes, functional MRI readings, neuroanatomy, etc. Using thousands of subjects, Bell and Weinberg, social psychologists, state “Among both men and women in our study, there is a powerful link between gender nonconformity and the development or homosexuality.” . . . “At the moment, a large body of convincing research appears to suggest a biological foundation for homosexuality.”
Same-sexed partnerships are known to exist in higher mammals and in many intelligent species. Over 250 species show same-sexed attraction and some life long bonding.

Many who are negative to homosexuality are in no manner homophobes. Particularly during adolescence and early adult phases, homophobia presents itself mostly among those who fear their own homosexuality. Research shows many “heterosexuals” vehemently opposed to homosexuality, using scientific measures, respond the same as homosexuals. Physicians and psychologists tend to see these individuals as self-loathing homosexuals. Anti-homosexual religious zealots are either unfamiliar with or deny the voluminous scientific research on sexual orientation.

Many who are negative to homosexuality are in no manner homophobes. Particularly during adolescence and early adult phases, homophobia presents itself mostly among those who fear their own homosexuality. Research shows many “heterosexuals” vehemently opposed to homosexuality, using scientific measures, respond the same as homosexuals. Physicians and psychologists tend to see these individuals as self-loathing homosexuals. Anti-homosexual religious zealots are either unfamiliar with or deny the voluminous scientific research on sexual orientation.

People who oppose homosexuality are often extremely vocal and few shy away from making homosexuals the target of mean spirited attacks. Christ never mentions homosexuals in the New Testament or the Book of Mormon. Early church scholars with unbridled disdain for homosexuals, Saint John Chrysostom and St. Augustine, who with anguish admits to homosexual practice, discuss I Cor. 6.9-10 and homosexuality is never mentioned. The passage discusses pagan temple practices. In the early Christian church, the punishment for homosexual behavior ranged from penance to excommunication. The word “ἀρσενοκοὶται” which some translate as “homosexual” is best translated, as did Martin Luther, “knabenchänder” or child molester. Until A.D. 656 Christians debated whether women had souls and the Counci l of Trent “condemned to anathema anyone who said marriage was as virtuous as celibacy.” Marriage is a sacrament of the church not related to the state. It seems the proper religious viewpoint should be only churches can perform “marriages.” The state, not being an arbiter for the church, should issue declarations of domestic partnership regardless of the sex of couples.

A “homosexual agenda” does not exist. Homosexuals are extremely diverse politically and many do not identify with the GLBT (Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgendered) community or consider themselves homosexual. Being part of the GLTB is a social process necessary to help disenfranchised GLTB individuals express their opinions, helping reduce prejudice and discrimination in an anti-GLBT mileu. GLBT emphasize positive image and self-acceptance and are active in numerous charities.

The GLBT tend to rely on scientific studies that show other than sexual orientation, there are few differences between GLBTs and heterosexuals. The GLBT community appears to be advocating for issues like: same-sexed marriage, full citizens’ rights, hate crimes legislation and support for all GLBT persons. The GLBT community supports heterosexuals and appropriate sexual behavior between consenting adults regardless of sexuality.

While social process is involved in sexual expression, it does not determine sexual orientation. To avoid stigma, some become pseudo-heterosexuals. Religiously motivated conversion therapy has never been scientifically documented to change a persons natural underlying sexual orientation. Pseudo-heterosexuality is the objective of such therapies. Many unable to change are significantly depressed and suicidal. “Two of Exodus International’s founders, Michael Bussee and Garry Cooper, fell in love and left the organization in 1979.”

Sexual orientation should not form the basis for discrimination or inequality. It should remind us of God’s variant creation. Could homosexuality be a means of population control as suggested by Carl Jung? The opposition to GLBT persons is contrary to the compassionate and loving teachings of Jesus Christ (Mt 7.1-5).

Dr. Murphy is a retired Cal Poly psychologist, lectured at international universities, did medical research at the University of Washington, and was a consulting forensic psychologist for the State of California criminal justice system. He has presented authoritative scientific papers on sexual orientation internationally to professional organizations, the public, legislative officials, and the courts.

atreyue said:
This isn’t the legacy of the white power structure. This is the legacy of the power structure, period.

atreyue!! Your response reminds me of that quote attributed to one of the Marx brothers, “Are you gonna believe me or your own eyes?”
Brother, how did you get this way?! It is impossible for you not to have experienced the situation I described because it is rampant in almost every industry. I have to conclude that you are trapped in pure denial with a large set of blinders on.

“Okay they were both screaming it. Would it have been any different if we were yelling cracker, cracker, cracker?”

yes cracker doesnt have the same historical context as nigger

@Dr.gordon “Dr. Laura has a bigger audience than the left-wing media.”

so obviously she cant be racist

Well coming from Australia …She would not want to try that on the radio over here. I am damn sure she would lose her job or at least suspended from work until she apologised for the comments she made. We obviously are a lot stricter in what can and cant be said in our media..Nigger does not cut it and really it is disgusting for anyone to use that word over the radio. Oh just for the record I am White and obviously not bigoted like a few of you are.

From many of the comments I can’t believe some of you folks listened to the same radio broadcast I did. How on earth was this caller playing “gotcha” on Dr. Laura? She spoke totally reasonably and sincerely about her experience without histrionics. The situations she described were completely plausible and understandably upsetting, and she was looking for help dealing with the and the effects in her marriage. Someone said the caller’s example was weak–what example? Dr. Laura asked for a couple “good examples” of racism, assuming the caller, who spoke in a very measured and reasonable way, was being “hypersensitive,” but then she didn’t allow her to give one. The caller was explaining something that happened the previous night when a neighbor who makes comments about black people as a whole every time he sees her (hello, this is an individual he’s talking to?) came over, and Dr. Laura interrupted her. She never had another chance. Discussing the usage of the word “nigger” is totally acceptable to me, in fact important, but the context of Dr. Laura’s usage of it is what makes it so bad. She told a caller she was out of line to feel offended by her husband’s white friends calling black people niggers because black comics use the word without censure. This displays massive ignorance or massive insensitivity about whites’ use of the word, and the basic phenomenon of in-group and out-group word usage (does a group of women friends calling each other bitches affectionately justify a man on the street calling them that?). Dr. Laura did not want to help or have a discussion, did not want to hear the black woman’s experience. She recounted a comment the made to her black bodyguard (which IMO may or may not have been offensive depending on the relationship with the man and the tone of the situation) and asked “Was that racist?” but left no space for the caller’s view. She didn’t want to hear any response, only her own words. She couldn’t stand to hear a black person recounting the experience of racism.

Her comments about Obama were completely inappropriate to the situation (and anyway didn’t a majority of blacks support Hillary in the primary? don’t a majority of blacks vote for white Democratic candidates?). What did that have to do with the caller’s situation? How does the election of a black man make all racist incidents disappear, or erase the effects of recent decades of racism on a massive scale (redlining, housing discrimination, job discrimination, white flight, the wealth gap and huge disparities in poverty rates)? In that vein, it’s important to discuss how actions by both whites and blacks can improve the situation (and this exchange was a perfect example of how white people should not go about it–there must be space both for venting feelings and engaging in respectful and open discussion to work toward mutual understanding). I think whites who got a better start in life than most poor kids do tend to vastly underestimate the difficulties of reaching financial and professional success from that background, and seem incapable of imagining what it might be like psychically to grow up in a society where white is “normal” and you are not white. This makes it hard to discuss what might be really helpful, personally, economically, or governmentally, to really level the playing field and help everyone feel and in fact be a valued citizen.

I too am very frustrated that this has been covered in the media only from the angle of damning Dr. Laura for uttering the N-word, the context truly is what matters and everyone was done a great disservice by the completely shallow, knee-jerk reporting. At least on Internet message boards the opportunity for discussion was not completely missed.