Bush did it.

A little convenient that this footage is ‘leaked’ 11 years later when there are movements all over the world that are dismantling the fear mongering started by this event. People aren’t afraid of Muslims anymore? Well we need to find more 9/11 footage. How else can we get our populations to submit to all the monitoring we do? And what about all that fancy new stuff we just got for airport screening? People won’t submit to all of that once they realize Al Qaeda is used as the bogeyman over there too!
By the way, it has been 11 years, anyone caught him yet? Or is it better for our governments if no one does?

or 10 years, i am so distracted by the end of the world, I keep thinking it is 2012..

fray close said:
A little convenient that this footage is ‘leaked’ 11 years later when there are movements all over the world that are dismantling the fear mongering started by this event. People aren’t afraid of Muslims anymore? Well we need to find more 9/11 footage. How else can we get our populations to submit to all the monitoring we do? And what about all that fancy new stuff we just got for airport screening? People won’t submit to all of that once they realize Al Qaeda is used as the bogeyman over there too!
By the way, it has been 11 years, anyone caught him yet? Or is it better for our governments if no one does?

Catch whom? OBL was a CIA asset and has been dead for years, but don’t tell anyone we still need a boogeyman to fear.

Color Me Badd said:
Bush did it.

STFU. you’re easily one of the worst posters here. your crap is old and brings zero value to any discussion. please, just STFU.

Semper_Map said:
STFU. you’re easily one of the worst posters here. your crap is old and brings zero value to any discussion. please, just STFU.

I hate to say it but I strongly agree with you.

Color Me Badd said:
Bush did it.

We would NEVER let Bush in our Klub.

Color Me Badd said:
Bush did it.

seek therapy. You need it. You sound like Charlie Sheen …. on a bad day.

Semper_Map said:
STFU. you’re easily one of the worst posters here. your crap is old and brings zero value to any discussion. please, just STFU.

If you buy the official report…you are asleep. Wake up and smell the corruption.

RowdyHoward said:
If you buy the official report…you are asleep. Wake up and smell the corruption.

you poeple are the equivalent of Birthers. you realize that, right?

Color Me Badd said:
Bush did it.

That is reprehensible and does go to prove that both sides are not beneath any accusation that justifies their unmitigated hate for other opinions. You need serious treatments and meds.

Semper_Map said:
you poeple are the equivalent of Birthers. you realize that, right?

Ha! You actually believe two 747s brought those towers down in that fashion? I’m sure you also believe the official gulf of Tonkin report as well.

I think it’s very difficult to know exactly what happened that day…but if you seriously believe that the events went down exactly how the media portrayed it…you are blind, or asleep, I don’t blame you though, I was in the same boat once…then I looked a bit closer

It was a terrible event and a very sobering moment for America. My question is, whats the point of the “leaked footage”? Am I supposed to go into fear mode? Should I be suspicious of people tha are darker then I am; maybe freak when I see dark people in sandals?

Nice try but no cigar….

RowdyHoward said:
Ha! You actually believe two 747s brought those towers down in that fashion? I’m sure you also believe the official gulf of Tonkin report as well.

I think it’s very difficult to know exactly what happened that day…but if you seriously believe that the events went down exactly how the media portrayed it…you are blind, or asleep, I don’t blame you though, I was in the same boat once…then I looked a bit closer

Agreed, maybe Bush didn’t do it I really don’t know but none of us know and that is the reason people speculate so much. The 911 Commission is a joke. These guys couldn’t fly planes especially with military precision. It is a sad joke, Rummy said the other day “what is Building 7″? They are horrible liars.

RowdyHoward said:
…then I looked a bit closer

You looked a “bit closer”, but apparently not close enough to know that the two aircraft that impacted the World Trade Center building were NOT 747s, but 767.

EPIC FAIL, douche-bag.

HowdyRowdyDowdy–
No, child. It was two 767′s that hit the twin towers. I had just gotten off work across the street. What wrecked the towers was the full load of fuel both planes had. #7WTC was a fire-trap. Everybody in NYC knew it. The NYFD let the damned thing burn rather than going in and getting covered in PCB’s.

Semper_Map said:
you poeple are the equivalent of Birthers. you realize that, right?

Nope, they don’t. Throwing out accusations without proof is easy.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842

RowdyHoward said:
If you buy the official report…you are asleep. Wake up and smell the corruption.

RowdyHoward said:
but if you seriously believe that the events went down exactly how the media portrayed it…you are blind, or asleep, I don’t blame you though, I was in the same boat once…then I looked a bit closer

You’ve stocked up on seeds , yes ?

Oh thats’ right….two even smaller planes

Color Me Badd said:
Bush did it.

Wow… just… wow.

Wait, I just watched the video and I think I saw Bush down there at the base of the building with matches and a gas can! CMB, you’re right!

3,000 Americans died on 9/11. 30,000+ Mexicans have died because of the “war” on somedrugs.

Publius219 said:
3,000 Americans died on 9/11. 30,000+ Mexicans have died because of the “war” on somedrugs.

So Bush killed the Mexicans and we should legalize 767′s ?

Publius219 said:
3,000 Americans died on 9/11. 30,000+ Mexicans have died because of the “war” on somedrugs.

Maybe they should stop killing Americans a bringing drugs across the borders which is ILLEGAL.

George C said:
So Bush killed the Mexicans and we should legalize 767’s ?

Make sense next time

RowdyHoward said:
Oh thats’ right….two even smaller planes

Try wrapping your pinhead around 40+K gals. of aviation fuel. Better yet, take it into your house and light ‘er up. I think you’ll be impressed.

RowdyHoward said:
Oh thats’ right….two even smaller planes

Yes, it does show how good you are at looking closer into things, doesn’t it? Did you look into the physicist Rosie O’Donnell’s claim that steel doesn’t burn, too?

RowdyHoward said:
Make sense next time

Got seeds ?

I heard “You Lie Hussein” was supposed to be one of the pilots on the planes, but when that didn’t work out he decided to phony up a birth certificate and become President???? Or maybe I just read sooooo many posts from knuckledragging idiots on this site that I’ve been brainwashed??

Lou Sarah said:
I heard “You Lie Hussein” was supposed to be one of the pilots on the planes, but when that didn’t work out he decided to phony up a birth certificate and become President???? Or maybe I just read sooooo many posts from knuckledragging idiots on this site that I’ve been brainwashed??

As if there was a brain there to wash. You really fool yourself, don’t you?

Religion of Peace said:
Maybe they should stop killing Americans a bringing drugs across the borders which is ILLEGAL.

Maybe we should install security cameras at every major intersection in the country because speeding and running red lights is illegal.

so what is it that is so “shocking”?

Lou Sarah said:
I heard “You Lie Hussein” was supposed to be one of the pilots on the planes, but when that didn’t work out he decided to phony up a birth certificate and become President???? Or maybe I just read sooooo many posts from knuckledragging idiots on this site that I’ve been brainwashed??

Could be .

Color Me Badd said:
Bush did it.

Color Me Badd said:
Catch whom? OBL was a CIA asset and has been dead for years, but don’t tell anyone we still need a boogeyman to fear.

RowdyHoward said:
If you buy the official report…you are asleep. Wake up and smell the corruption.

RowdyHoward said:
Ha! You actually believe two 747s brought those towers down in that fashion? I’m sure you also believe the official gulf of Tonkin report as well.
I think it’s very difficult to know exactly what happened that day…but if you seriously believe that the events went down exactly how the media portrayed it…you are blind, or asleep, I don’t blame you though, I was in the same boat once…then I looked a bit closer

George C said:
Got seeds ?

Got sense?

Color Me Badd said:
OBL was a CIA asset and has been dead for years, but don’t tell anyone we still need a boogeyman to fear.

Color Me Badd said:
Bush did it.

RowdyHoward said:
You actually believe two 747s brought those towers down in that fashion?

And Glenn Beck is the conspiracy theorist? K

Publius219 said:
Maybe we should install security cameras at every major intersection in the country because speeding and running red lights is illegal.

Uh, they’re already in place, dummy.

RowdyHoward said:
Got sense?

You first .

Color Me Badd said:
Bush did it.

Don’t ever say shit about birthers, you lunatic.

Joseph Glackin said:
Try wrapping your pinhead around 40+K gals. of aviation fuel. Better yet, take it into your house and light ‘er up. I think you’ll be impressed.

Don’t forget to set up some extremely powerful fans to get the airflow at about 40-50 MPH and break out the marshmallows.

Goes to show you how jaded *some* of the liberals are on this site. Footage on the attack that killed 3000 people here in our country and what do the first posters talk about:

Inside job by the government, racism(?) and Mexico (?)

My first thoughts? Those poor families that will relive this AGAIN (not that they don’t every day anyway)

George C said:
You first .

You lose.

Well that was a waste of ten minutes of my time. That was probably the worst video I have ever seen of 9-11. Was the camera man having a seizure or something…..? How does someone with a helicopter and a camera actually mange to not film two gigantic buildings collapsing when you are hovering above them?

Publius219 said:
3,000 Americans died on 9/11. 30,000+ Mexicans have died because of the “war” on somedrugs.

And your point?

RowdyHoward said:
You lose.

Really ?

RowdyHoward said:
If you buy the official report…you are asleep. Wake up and smell the corruption.

RowdyHoward said:
Ha! You actually believe two 747s brought those towers down in that fashion? I’m sure you also believe the official gulf of Tonkin report as well.

What’s this ? Winning ? LOL !

RowdyHoward said:
If you buy the official report…you are asleep. Wake up and smell the corruption.

The official report is free, I don’t have to buy it. If you don’t believe it you are INSANE.

This proves the theory that helicopters did 9/11.

George C said:
Really ?

What’s this ? Winning ? LOL !

Schooling.

gordonbloyershow said:
The official report is free, I don’t have to buy it. If you don’t believe it you are INSANE.

I bet it was george soros that made it up. He’s behind everything now.

RowdyHoward said:
Schooling.

Charlie Sheen taught you well .

gordonbloyershow said:
The official report is free, I don’t have to buy it. If you don’t believe it you are INSANE.

So you bought the Gulf of Tonkin incident from our acclaimed media as well?

George C said:
Charlie Sheen taught you well .

Well, i figured you waste your time on the biggest name in news last week.

Serenity now…repeat, then get back to me.

RowdyHoward said:
If you buy the official report…you are asleep. Wake up and smell the corruption.

RowdyHoward said:
Ha! You actually believe two 747s brought those towers down in that fashion? I’m sure you also believe the official gulf of Tonkin report as well.
I think it’s very difficult to know exactly what happened that day…but if you seriously believe that the events went down exactly how the media portrayed it…you are blind, or asleep, I don’t blame you though, I was in the same boat once…then I looked a bit closer

Serenity now…repeat, then get back to me.

gordonbloyershow said:
The official report is free, I don’t have to buy it. If you don’t believe it you are INSANE.

Ahh that’s sad, because your ‘sacred’ official report is like swiss cheese and I don’t agree with it 100%…you have to call me insane.

You do know you should always question the mainstream report before gobbling it up…as you do so well.

RowdyHoward said:
So you bought the Gulf of Tonkin incident from our acclaimed media as well?

Led by the liberal darling Walter Cronkite?

RowdyHoward said:
Ahh that’s sad, because your ’sacred’ official report is like swiss cheese and I don’t agree with it 100%…you have to call me insane.
You do know you should always question the mainstream report before gobbling it up…as you do so well.

You may want to opt for a second layer of tinfoil .

George C said:
Serenity now…repeat, then get back to me.

Very good, you found the (Quote) link and learned how to copy and paste. You are learning!

It’s old news, what are you gonna do? Nothing. It’s history and I’m sure we will get a slow stream of new footage as this heated topic grows older. There are just too many red flags that pop up for me when I review the events leading up to the day, the events on the day, and the events on the days to follow. I’m sorry that you need to call names, I just don’t buy what was put out.

RowdyHoward said:
Very good, you found the (Quote) link and learned how to copy and paste. You are learning!

Obviously quite an accomplishment for you when you figured it out. Most of us aren’t as astounded as you are about something so simple, as cut and paste. I notice that with you liberal clowns a lot. The simple things astound you so.

josecuervoisgood said:
And your point?

People die. American life is not inherently more valuable on the basis of being born within certain geographic borders. Bad US policy results in more deaths than terrorists flying planes into buildings

RowdyHoward said:
It’s old news, what are you gonna do? Nothing. It’s history and I’m sure we will get a slow stream of new footage as this heated topic grows older. There are just too many red flags that pop up for me when I review the events leading up to the day, the events on the day, and the events on the days to follow. I’m sorry that you need to call names, I just don’t buy what was put out.

Pretty sure that he didnt call you any names , way to try and sneek that in though .

Step outside the bunker sometime , you may enjoy the light .

Color Me Badd said:
Bush did it.

Obviously not. When he got the news, he was so stunned, he couldn’t stop reading the bunny story. If his handlers hadn’t decided to get him out of there, he might have finished the book.

If I didn’t believe that 9/11 just wasn’t the perfect exploit of our system, I would point more to Cheney and the military industrial complex. What better way to start a profitable war.

Atta and his buds proved that the U.S. was a giant soft target, and gave Cheney the excuse to build a giant semi-secret bureaucracy, circumvent the Constitution, and make a little money for his boys in business.

For all of Homeland Security’s attempts at securing the border, we are still a giant soft target. We can’t stop truckloads and boatloads of drugs from being brought in. How can we expect to stop one little suitcase….

The Tea Weasel® said:
How can we expect to stop one little suitcase….

Snuck in by whom, dummy? America has enemies??? Bomber Buddhists?

Publius219 said:
People die. American life is not inherently more valuable on the basis of being born within certain geographic borders. Bad US policy results in more deaths than terrorists flying planes into buildings

WTF is wrong with you?

THAT is your response to this video? I didn’t see ANYTHING in the article saying this is important because Amercians died, yet YOU somehow feel the need to point out how many people have died in Mexico as a RESPONSE?

I think you have to be pretty cynical and have a lot of angst against the US to have this video elicit that type of feedback.

Joseph Glackin said:
HowdyRowdyDowdy–No, child. It was two 767’s that hit the twin towers. I had just gotten off work across the street. What wrecked the towers was the full load of fuel both planes had. #7WTC was a fire-trap. Everybody in NYC knew it. The NYFD let the damned thing burn rather than going in and getting covered in PCB’s.

So sorry you were so close and had to witness such terror. My deepest sympathy to you & all the family menbers of the innocent. Can anyone tell me what point is made by releasing this video now or ever?

Not at all surprised to see the usual partisan bickering going on here. That is to be expected. What does surprise me is that everyone does not agree that the 9-11 Commission report was sadly lacking, which is the reason the partisan debate continues. Did the Bush administration orchestrate the attack? I haven’t seen enough evidence to buy that. Did they ignore or overlook a ton of warnings that an attack was coming? I have seen many convincing evidence they did. It is too bad the 9-11 Commission report was such a joke, because all we are really left with is speculation…and a long list of dead American citizens.

Why is it —that when the Liberal Media report on anything negative regarding Conservatives or Tea Party, the Liberals love it.?? But when the Liberal (or any other) Media report the truth…..the Liberals jump out of their caves to object?

LarryB said:
Not at all surprised to see the usual partisan bickering going on here. That is to be expected. What does surprise me is that everyone does not agree that the 9-11 Commission report was sadly lacking, which is the reason the partisan debate continues. Did the Bush administration orchestrate the attack? I haven’t seen enough evidence to buy that. Did they ignore or overlook a ton of warnings that an attack was coming? I have seen many convincing evidence they did. It is too bad the 9-11 Commission report was such a joke, because all we are really left with is speculation…and a long list of dead American citizens.

Look at the people at the top of the commission. The very person who put a wall between the CIA and the FBI was sitting at the top. The CIA and the FBI were refused by the Clinton administration from exchanging information. Something about all those investigations into him, maybe???

Clinton:
RECORDS SET

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- Second president accused of rape**
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court

and this…
ARKANSAS SUDDEN DEATH SYNDROME

- Number of persons in the Clinton machine orbit who are alleged to have committed suicide: 9
- Number known to have been murdered: 12
- Number who died in plane crashes: 6
- Number who died in single car automobile accidents: 3
- Number of one-person sking fatalities: 1
- Number of key witnesses who have died of heart attacks while in federal custody under questionable circumstances: 1
- Number of unexplained deaths: 4
- Number of northern Mafia killings during peak years of 1968-78: 30
- Number of Dixie Mafia killings during same period: 156

gordonbloyershow said:
The official report is free, I don’t have to buy it. If you don’t believe it you are INSANE.

As much as this is difficult, I have to agree with Bloyer. The report is free and accurate. Anyone that persists in the “truther” garbage is as stupid as those that persist in the “birther” garbage.

ndanielson said:
Look at the people at the top of the commission. The very person who put a wall between the CIA and the FBI was sitting at the top. The CIA and the FBI were refused by the Clinton administration from exchanging information. Something about all those investigations into him, maybe???

Clinton:
RECORDS SET

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- Second president accused of rape**
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court

and this…
ARKANSAS SUDDEN DEATH SYNDROME

- Number of persons in the Clinton machine orbit who are alleged to have committed suicide: 9
- Number known to have been murdered: 12
- Number who died in plane crashes: 6
- Number who died in single car automobile accidents: 3
- Number of one-person sking fatalities: 1
- Number of key witnesses who have died of heart attacks while in federal custody under questionable circumstances: 1
- Number of unexplained deaths: 4
- Number of northern Mafia killings during peak years of 1968-78: 30
- Number of Dixie Mafia killings during same period: 156

Jaime Gorelick also made a fortune off of Fannie/Freddie fraud. There are some pretty good reasons to not allow the FBI and the CIA from exchanging information, if you were a Clinton in the 90′s. And who knows how much Sandy Berger hid and stole?

gordonbloyershow said:
The official report is free, I don’t have to buy it. If you don’t believe it you are INSANE.

If Rush told Bloyer that grass is pink he would believe that because Rush is Always right! He has learned not to question anything that Fox, Beck or Rush say because it’s always the truth. He is a good soldier for the right wing echo chamber.

Georgia999 said:
So sorry you were so close and had to witness such terror. My deepest sympathy to you & all the family menbers of the innocent. Can anyone tell me what point is made by releasing this video now or ever?

None whatsoever. Other than that all American desire to get a close-up shot of the dead gangster, the five car pile-up, the toddler in the well. You know the local TV news mantra, “If it bleeds, it leads.” It’s the fascination with demolition derby, with the NASCAR smash-up at 200mph, with watching two men roll and kick and punch each other and calling it “Ultimate Fighting”. It’s our way of life.

ndanielson said:
Jaime Gorelick also made a fortune off of Fannie/Freddie fraud. There are some pretty good reasons to not allow the FBI and the CIA from exchanging information, if you were a Clinton in the 90’s. And who knows how much Sandy Berger hid and stole?

I’m sure if your boy Clinton was in there on that day you’d be singing a different song…like Clinton did it!

The Right is always right, right?

ndanielson said:
Snuck in by whom, dummy? America has enemies??? Bomber Buddhists?

Sometimes you don’t make sense. The more you post, the less sense you make. Sometimes you quote yourself and make no sense. But I guess it keeps you from bothering your neighbors.

ndanielson said:
Look at the people at the top of the commission. The very person who put a wall between the CIA and the FBI was sitting at the top. The CIA and the FBI were refused by the Clinton administration from exchanging information. Something about all those investigations into him, maybe???

Clinton:
RECORDS SET

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- Second president accused of rape**
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court

and this…
ARKANSAS SUDDEN DEATH SYNDROME

- Number of persons in the Clinton machine orbit who are alleged to have committed suicide: 9
- Number known to have been murdered: 12
- Number who died in plane crashes: 6
- Number who died in single car automobile accidents: 3
- Number of one-person sking fatalities: 1
- Number of key witnesses who have died of heart attacks while in federal custody under questionable circumstances: 1
- Number of unexplained deaths: 4
- Number of northern Mafia killings during peak years of 1968-78: 30
- Number of Dixie Mafia killings during same period: 156

You people are so hung up on right vs. left it is really pathetic how bad you are being played. Clinton was a crook and a murderer and should have been impeached but so was Bush,
Ron Paul was right about Clinton when he said he agreed he should be impeached but not over Monica Lewinsky, he should have been impeached for bombing the hell out of the Sudan in his wag the dog moment, he should have been impeached for the inhumane sanctions against Iraq which killed over a hundred thousand women and children.

Bush should have been impeached for the same thing. You people are really stupid, you buy into this whole right vs. left paradigm when it is really us vs. them. Idiots.

The Tea Weasel® said:
Sometimes you don’t make sense. The more you post, the less sense you make. Sometimes you quote yourself and make no sense. But I guess it keeps you from bothering your neighbors.

Makes perfect sense to me.

Publius219 said:
3,000 Americans died on 9/11. 30,000+ Mexicans have died because of the “war” on somedrugs.

The mexicans killed are criminals, I couldnt care less about them. I only care about the innocent Americans killed. your comparing apples and oranges.

RowdyHoward said:
I’m sure if your boy Clinton was in there on that day you’d be singing a different song…like Clinton did it!

The Right is always right, right?

Clinton did do it, dummy.

ndanielson said:
RowdyHoward said:
I’m sure if your boy Clinton was in there on that day you’d be singing a different song…like Clinton did it!

The Right is always right, right?

Clinton did do it, dummy.

By not allowing the exchange of information, and treating terrorists as criminals.

ndanielson said:
Clinton did do it, dummy.

Clinton was behind the attacks? I think you misunderstood.

RowdyHoward said:
Clinton was behind the attacks? I think you misunderstood.

He set the climate, politicized the gathering of information, and then covered up with Sandy Berger. An accessory after the fact, if nothing else.

ndanielson said:
He set the climate, politicized the gathering of information, and then covered up with Sandy Berger. An accessory after the fact, if nothing else.

In your opinion, would you say he is to blame more than Bush?

RowdyHoward said:
In your opinion, would you say he is to blame more than Bush?

Is your middle name Sherlock?

ndanielson said:
Is your middle name Sherlock?

Wow, you won’t answer that?

RowdyHoward said:
Wow, you won’t answer that?

He didn’t throw his whole carreer away for nothing, did he?

Religion of Peace said:
He didn’t throw his whole carreer away for nothing, did he?

Apparently not! How do these people make it through life?

Religion of Peace said:
He didn’t throw his whole carreer away for nothing, did he?

ndanielson said:
Apparently not! How do these people make it through life?

Oh, that’s right…taxpayers!

RowdyHoward said:
In your opinion, would you say he is to blame more than Bush?

ndanielson said:
Is your middle name Sherlock?

Don’t be afraid to stand for something…it’s cowardly to avoid a simple question.

Do you think Clinton is more at fault than Bush? It really can’t get any easier than a yes or no question.

The Tea Weasel® said:
Obviously not. When he got the news, he was so stunned, he couldn’t stop reading the bunny story. If his handlers hadn’t decided to get him out of there, he might have finished the book.

If I didn’t believe that 9/11 just wasn’t the perfect exploit of our system, I would point more to Cheney and the military industrial complex. What better way to start a profitable war.

Atta and his buds proved that the U.S. was a giant soft target, and gave Cheney the excuse to build a giant semi-secret bureaucracy, circumvent the Constitution, and make a little money for his boys in business.

For all of Homeland Security’s attempts at securing the border, we are still a giant soft target. We can’t stop truckloads and boatloads of drugs from being brought in. How can we expect to stop one little suitcase….

That mythical suitcase nuke is a little harder to obtain than you might think. Everyone “knows” that the Russians were selling nukes/and or bomb material on the black market after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Most people were too dumb to figure out what some evil Russian KGB guy actually did. Hint, can you tell Uranium 238(useless for bombs) from plutonium? Most terrrorists couldn’t either. The Russians made up fake bombs using nuclear waste from their reactors, then sold them “secretly” to stupid terrorists for lots and lots of oil dollars. They then either arrested the terrorists before leaving Russia or betrayed them (for a small fee, of course) to Western intelligence agencies. It’s not like the terrorists had a money back guarantee….

By the way, the suitcase nuke is more myth than reality, since the person trying to carry it would likely die of radiation exposure before getting close to the target, if they could even pick it up. They are likely undeliverable in the real world. The soft target bit is true for every country, and HS is still a failure. Just not for nukes.

RowdyHoward said:
Don’t be afraid to stand for something…it’s cowardly to avoid a simple question.

Do you think Clinton is more at fault than Bush? It really can’t get any easier than a yes or no question.

You can’t tell what my answer is, sweetpea? Really??? C’mon take a guess. Really? You’re that dense? I see you are not too afraid to be so stupid anonymously on a website. So brave.

ndanielson said:
You can’t tell what my answer is, sweetpea? Really??? C’mon take a guess. Really? You’re that dense? I see you are not too afraid to be so stupid anonymously on a website. So brave.

Nerve struck.

RowdyHoward said:
Nerve struck.

You’ll grow a new one.

Ha! Grow a spine first…lady.

…and learn how to answer a question without shitting yourself with anger.

A simple Yes or No does the trick.

ndanielson said:
Clinton did do it, dummy.

ndanielson said:
By not allowing the exchange of information, and treating terrorists as criminals.

RowdyHoward said:
Clinton was behind the attacks? I think you misunderstood.

I misunderstood?

ndanielson said:
He set the climate, politicized the gathering of information, and then covered up with Sandy Berger. An accessory after the fact, if nothing else.

RowdyHoward said:
In your opinion, would you say he is to blame more than Bush?

ndanielson said:
Is your middle name Sherlock?

Apparently not.

RowdyHoward said:
Don’t be afraid to stand for something…it’s cowardly to avoid a simple question.

Do you think Clinton is more at fault than Bush? It really can’t get any easier than a yes or no question.

Wow. Is everything spelled out for you in life? How much do taxpayers waste to keep you around?

ndanielson said:
I misunderstood?

Apparently not.

Wow. Is everything spelled out for you in life? How much do taxpayers waste to keep you around?

Why would taxpayers have to keep me around? Or have to pay to do so?

Try making sense, before you carelessly let words dribble from your toothless mouth. You are sad.

RowdyHoward said:
Why would taxpayers have to keep me around?

Because you’re stupid as bricks. How else do you feed yourself? Spelled it out for you perfectly again, and you don’t get it. Wow.

RowdyHoward said:
Why would taxpayers have to keep me around? Or have to pay to do so?

Try making sense, before you carelessly let words dribble from your toothless mouth. You are sad.

I take that back…that was rude, I apologize. But I truly wanted to know what you meant by “How much taxpayers must waste to keep me around”?

Or was that just said in anger?

ndanielson said:
Because you’re stupid as bricks. How else do you feed yourself? Spelled it out for you perfectly again, and you don’t get it. Wow.

So stupid people are subsidized by taxpayers? Does that mean we payed to keep Bush in office? Or did we just pay for the stupid people to vote for him?

…and I’m pretty sure you’re just mad at me. Come on, I’m not mad at you.

There are just a few things I find “shocking” about this video…

1) they had the rigging on board to drop a couple guys on the roofs with bolt cutters and battery-operated sawzalls to clear the antennae so rescue choppers could’ve gotten the people trapped on the top floors off, but they were more interested in stopping in the park to pee.

2) I wasted 17 minutes of my life watching this.

3) you guys have spent numerous hours uselessly defending your inane tinfoil hat theories about the other party.

The facts are, both parties have voted to raid and spend (instead of investing) the excess SS funds continuously over the last 50 years and now want to cut seniors’ benefits (but not their own gold plated retirement packages), making it the biggest ponzi scheme in the history of the world.

SS and medicare should be wound down like any other ponzi scheme…
a) deductions for FICA-SS and FICA-HI stop immediately.
b) if you’ve drawn out what you put in, your SS/medicare benefits are done. Get a job – YOU are responsible for this mess by letting the politicians continuously steal the excess over the last 50 years, then re-electing them over and over. Nobody to blame but yourselves.
c) widows and children that are already collecting continue drawing until death or age 18 (21, if still in school).
d) everyone not already drawing gets refunds of what they’ve paid in.

But the matching funds from your employers over the years are just ‘disappeared’ – like the equity in your homes robbed by the wall street barons that combined junk-rated toxic assets into bonds, sprinkled them with fairy dust and made them investment grade, which they simultaneously sold both long and short, pocketing profits on both ends of the deal.

Tip: at least half the money you get from step D should be laddered in short term treasuries (don’t worry – interest rates will soon start going up to curb the double-digit inflation we’ll be seeing over the next few years).

Darr247 said:
b) if you’ve drawn out what you put in, your SS/medicare benefits are done. Get a job – YOU are responsible for this mess by letting the politicians continuously steal the excess over the last 50 years, then re-electing them over and over. Nobody to blame but yourselves.

A rational mind.
Won’t last long here.

RowdyHoward said:
Don’t be afraid to stand for something…it’s cowardly to avoid a simple question.

Do you think Clinton is more at fault than Bush? It really can’t get any easier than a yes or no question.

The answer is yes. The tepid response of the Clinton administration to the bombing of embassies and attacking a US warship emboldened Bin Laden. The planning for the attack on the US was planned under Clinton’s watch and carried out under Bush’s. Bin Laden admitted his surprise that Bush came after him in Afghanistan because he assumed the US would continue the weak policies of Clinton.

josecuervoisgood said:
The answer is yes. The tepid response of the Clinton administration to the bombing of embassies and attacking a US warship emboldened Bin Laden. The planning for the attack on the US was planned under Clinton’s watch and carried out under Bush’s. Bin Laden admitted his surprise that Bush came after him in Afghanistan because he assumed the US would continue the weak policies of Clinton.

Finally, someone has a spine on the topic. Even if I do disagree, high five.

josecuervoisgood said:
The answer is yes. The tepid response of the Clinton administration to the bombing of embassies and attacking a US warship emboldened Bin Laden. The planning for the attack on the US was planned under Clinton’s watch and carried out under Bush’s. Bin Laden admitted his surprise that Bush came after him in Afghanistan because he assumed the US would continue the weak policies of Clinton.

I agree, however I think it was inevitable that Bin Laden would make the attempt. I think it could be argued their success against the Soviet Union – who didn’t care one bit what the world thought – plus the debacle of the 2000 election whiny-fest of the media and half the country calling Bush the devil and the other half calling Gore and his media supporters sore losers also contributed to Bin Laden’s confidence he could hit us with impunity. Heck, if he hit us tomorrow and dared set foot on us soil he’d be arrested by the FBI and given a civilian trial. With our current Justice Department and his money he’d be out faster than you can say OJ.

If you knew where to look, this was on the internet two months after 9/11, along with all the audio channels from NYC 911 dispatch.

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teccec said:
I agree, however I think it was inevitable that Bin Laden would make the attempt. I think it could be argued their success against the Soviet Union – who didn’t care one bit what the world thought – plus the debacle of the 2000 election whiny-fest of the media and half the country calling Bush the devil and the other half calling Gore and his media supporters sore losers also contributed to Bin Laden’s confidence he could hit us with impunity. Heck, if he hit us tomorrow and dared set foot on us soil he’d be arrested by the FBI and given a civilian trial. With our current Justice Department and his money he’d be out faster than you can say OJ.

You really believe he’d be set free? Not even Sarah Palin would believe that, or would she.

Bin Laden always was a CIA asset.

The experts can say what the will, but I’ll never believe those towers went down from the planes only. A look at how buildings are imploded can verify that.

Jayson said:
The experts can say what the will, but I’ll never believe those towers went down from the planes only. A look at how buildings are imploded can verify that.

It amazes me how many people are scared to question the so called “facts”.

teccec said:
Heck, if he hit us tomorrow and dared set foot on us soil he’d be arrested by the FBI and given a civilian trial. With our current Justice Department and his money he’d be out faster than you can say OJ.

Your an idiot.

This is what a steady diet of faux noise and rush limpballs does to your brain folks.

DONT DRINK THE RED KOOLAID!!!!

Darr247 said:
There are just a few things I find “shocking” about this video…

1) they had the rigging on board to drop a couple guys on the roofs with bolt cutters and battery-operated sawzalls to clear the antennae so rescue choppers could’ve gotten the people trapped on the top floors off, but they were more interested in stopping in the park to pee.

2) I wasted 17 minutes of my life watching this.

3) you guys have spent numerous hours uselessly defending your inane tinfoil hat theories about the other party.

The facts are, both parties have voted to raid and spend (instead of investing) the excess SS funds continuously over the last 50 years and now want to cut seniors’ benefits (but not their own gold plated retirement packages), making it the biggest ponzi scheme in the history of the world.

SS and medicare should be wound down like any other ponzi scheme…
a) deductions for FICA-SS and FICA-HI stop immediately.
b) if you’ve drawn out what you put in, your SS/medicare benefits are done. Get a job – YOU are responsible for this mess by letting the politicians continuously steal the excess over the last 50 years, then re-electing them over and over. Nobody to blame but yourselves.
c) widows and children that are already collecting continue drawing until death or age 18 (21, if still in school).
d) everyone not already drawing gets refunds of what they’ve paid in.

But the matching funds from your employers over the years are just ‘disappeared’ – like the equity in your homes robbed by the wall street barons that combined junk-rated toxic assets into bonds, sprinkled them with fairy dust and made them investment grade, which they simultaneously sold both long and short, pocketing profits on both ends of the deal.

Tip: at least half the money you get from step D should be laddered in short term treasuries (don’t worry – interest rates will soon start going up to curb the double-digit inflation we’ll be seeing over the next few years).

And, how were the past generations you are talking about be better informed than the group that just voted this present administration in? Using your analogy we wouldn’t have had any “bad” Presidents and their incompetent decisions. FDR was a great manipulator, and the people that kept re-electing him were naive and ill-informed.

Do you really think the folks that have been raiding SS broadcasted their intentions, actions? If you do, please tell who killed Kennedy. Since all is so transparent, this should be easy.

…………or, who is responsible for 9-11?

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