so what..

“are probably just instants away from leaping to Rep. Wasserman Schultz’s defense.”

Maybe in Bizarro-Congress

Remember when Arlen Specter got in trouble for telling Michele Bachmann to “act like a lady?” Looking forward to hearing the unexpectedly conservative cries against sexism this time around too.

Allen West just doesn’t like the idea of a woman standing up to him.

He hates it as much as a moo-slim standing up to him.  Thats why he was kicked out of the army for torture.

Allen West needs to be checked for P.T.S.D. or rabies, the man is mad,mad,mad I tell you.  For god’s sake don’t let him near Wasserman-Shultz, he’ll probobly shoot a gun near her head or something.

Are conservatives allowed to give MS Wasserman some payback for the way Liberals for the past 2 1/2 years have treated Palin???  Can we accuse her family of participating in incest?  Can we attack her children??  Can we attack her looks?  Can we attack her intellect??  Can we attack how she got picked for the job??  Just imagine every Palin attack reversed on ya guys???  Oh wait we would be sexists for that.

Whoa, who accused the Palins of incest?

West is taking the war to the Leftists and they know not what to do. They have not seen someone like this since Reagan. Reagan use to call out the leftists all the time. Back then there was none of this PC and be civil crap. One of the best lines I liked from Reagan, oh hell there are sooooo many, here we go-

Recession is when a neighbor loses his job. Depression is when you lose yours. A recovery is when Jimmy Carter loses his.Protecting the rights of even the least individual among us is basically the only excuse the government has for even existing.Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.

Republicans believe every day is 4th of July. Democrats believe every day is April 15

Abortion is advocated only by persons who have themselves been born

Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction

Back in 1927, an American socialist, Norman Thomas, six times candidate
for President on the Socialist Party ticket, said that the American
people would never vote for socialism but he said under the name of liberalism the American people would adopt every fragment of the socialist program.

Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other

Welfare’s purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.

One legislator accused me of having a nineteenth-century attitude on
law and order. That is a totally false charge. I have an
eighteenth-century attitude. That is when the Founding Fathers made it
clear that the safety of law-abiding citizens should be one of the
government’s primary concerns.

Fascism was really the basis for the New Deal It was Mussolin’s
success in Italy, with his government-directed economy, that led the
early New Dealers to say “But Mussolini keeps the trains running on
time.”

Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come
to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.
If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is
libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as
liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals — if we were back in the days
of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals
and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of
conservatism is a
desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or
more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also
of what libertarianism is. Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all
the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in
the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political
movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost
over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe
there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in
an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will
have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the
neighborhood. We have government to ensure that we don’t each one of us
have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my
statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are
traveling the same path.

By the way, take your PC and Call for Civility and shove it.

Wasserman Schultz look like a Muppet.

If only she were as intelligent as one.

Hopefully it’s Bahney Fwank who lost the bet and it’s HIS arm that’s up Wasserman Schultz’ a$$.

Michelle Bachmann didn’t publicly belittle Arlen after he left the room, all in an effort to score cheap political points.  Debbie Mayonnaise Hair Schultz did so to Congressman West.

You’re confusing West with Bill Maher who calls women cu*ts.

What a nasty racist remark, idiot.

Exactly!

So…you’re comparing remarks about angry sex/calling women sluts/c-word t-shirts to what West said? Would West’s remarks have been acceptable if he’d made them to a man? West says she’s “not a lady” and NOW the left is gasping? Really?

You people on the left are like children. You repeatedly swat mommy and daddy and swear at them, and when they finally respond, you freak out.

Grow up, lefties. Seriously.

The leftist hero- Andrew Sullivan
Saturday Night Live- another twisted freak of a show now

What is SOOOOOO FUNNY another leftist twit Columbia Professor that attacked Palin……….is charged with FELONY INCEST! Now that is some twisted irony right there! Guess what, the leftists came out and defended him?

http://theothermccain.com/2010/12/10/palin-hating-columbia-professor-huffington-post-blogger-busted-for-incest/

Not sure if you realize how speeches on the floor work, but congressional representatives openly discuss things on the record, and the even sometimes reference specific people. If you think that a speech made on the public record immediately after West’s constitutes cowardliness and disingenuous, then I question whether or not you’re trying to score cheap political points. If anything, it behooved West to stay through Wasserman’s speech instead of using his time on the bully pulput as a soapbox.

Who freaked out?  Looks like West.  Perhaps you should stop living with “mommy and daddy”!

Andrew Sullivan didn’t accuse the Palins of incest; he accused Palin of faking her pregnancy and supposed that the child was actually her daughter’s. If you want to assume that the theory was Todd Palin impregnated his daughter, that’s more revealing about your thought process than anything else. Saturday Night Live is a comedy show that satirizes politics, sometimes (maybe often times) unsuccessfully. Anything else? Other than misrepresentation or deflection, I mean.

Tommy comes to defend the honor of Wasserman Schultz against West for using ‘Vile’ and ‘Not a lady’. How dare someone use such a language against a liberal? Did someone forget the double standard, you can only use vulgar terms against Palins and Bachmann? Would Tommy give an explaintion when Maher uses vulgar terms against Palins and Bachmann. Would Emily’s list start a petition to cancel Bill Maher at HBO? Oh well! I forgot, Bill Maher only uses vulgar language against Palins and Bachmann, that makes it acceptable.
Tommy! even though Bill Maher is a comedian, use of vulgar language for the sake of politics is always unacceptable. West did not use vulgar terms against Schultz. There is history of political discourse between West and Schultz, that is the real explaination behind the email. West should have just called Schultz an idiot and left it at that, anyone who knows Shultz would have agreed.

Don’t make Allen West mad, he might torture you like he did to that Iraqi prisoner and faced 11 years in prison and a dishonorable discharge under a 5-13, which is so rare you can count how many times a 5-13 happens every year on both hands. This man is a disgrace to every soldier who wore the uniform and is lucky to be still receiving his pension today.

Tommy, let me know when Alan West attack’s her family and then I’ll start to consider giving a damn.

Maher is a comedian on cable television; West is an elected representative of Florida. If you can’t tell the difference, maybe conservative news programming has blurred the line between celebrity and politician too much for you.

????

Bill Maher is a comedian on HBO, David Letterman is a comedian on CBS. Allen West is a Congressman who has a history of violence, I suggest Schultz get some bodyguards or something. It is obvious this Freshman Congressman can’t take the pressure. Guy should resign before he cracks under the pressure and does something he regrets. He is a disgrace to me and every soldier who wore the uniform of the United States Army. The guy barely escaped being DD under a 5-13, something that is very rare if you know anything about DD’s. The man is lucky to still be receiving a pension today. He is a coward.

West is just another Tea Party child who is rude and immature.  

West should not have made the not a lady comment but give me a freaking break. Libs get their panties in a knot over this while Republican women get called b*tches, wh*res and tw*ts?? Unfreakingbelievable.

Attacking someone’s stance on a particular policy is not ‘belittling’ some one; however, calling someone ‘vile’ and undeserving of respect is belittling some one.

A nasty remark, I will agree, but how is it racist?

Haha.

TC, I’m finding it a bit of a hurdle to not see how you making an assessment that Rep. West over-reacted. Or that you personally paint a picture of over-reacting. Regardless if others felt West did or did not.

You are IMO at times a short tempered person. I would think you would appreciate, if not admire rep. West’s temperament. Your temperament according to you regarding his reaction “seems” to align closely. At least according to your post’s description.

http://twitter.com/#!/tommyxtopher/status/66699896056586241

http://twitter.com/#!/tommyxtopher/status/75227567908593665

http://twitter.com/#!/tommyxtopher/status/92671188123402240

Debbie is also the Republican’s choice for DNC chair , since sensible liberal icon Alan Grayson was booted .

Yes, accuse me of it. Sick prick. Sullivan was one of the first sick pricks like you to begin the completely fabricated story and it places him squarely in the crosshairs. Just like you, he is as sick as they come. I wonder what he meant when “wondering” why the child had Down’s syndrome. Go away wonkette.

Nice job, copypasta.

Please don’t compare West with Reagan.  I find it unlikely that Reagan would call another American politician ‘vile’ and ‘undeserving of respect’.

“False equivalence is false.” Indeed.

You’re right: false equivalence is false.  The difference here is that the people that went after Palin in such despicable ways were entertainers and journalists.  West, however, is not.  He’s an elected public official and, because of this, we should really expect more maturity.

Did you read what I wrote? I agreed that Maher is a comedian. What would you say if Maher would have said: Mrs Obama is a cu*t like a Sarah Palin, Mrs Obama should be fu**ed with anger like Bachmann? I am not going to repeat what he said about Bristol Palin, and use Obama child as an example.
Schultz is an idioit, West is stupid who as a politician should have known better regardless of the history, Maher is just a vile potty-mouth. And Mr Blurgh! you are a blind liberal who sees nothing wrong any thing a liberal says.
I just want Mediaite to stop giving free publicity to Bill Maher.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

No, he just called liberals stupid. And he wished the biggest loser liberal at the time to lose his job. And he called the political profession the same as the prostitute profession. And he called liberals socialists. And he………………..

Now go away before I taunt you a second time.

” Still, Rep. Schultz must have said something pretty crazy to set him off like that. Did she declare a jihad on south Florida puppies? Not exactly:

That’s it? Rep. West went all to pieces over a little light Medicare patter? ”

No , that’s not it Tommy . From HotAir….

Watching the original speech, West’s response might seem like an overreaction. But in light of Wasserman Schultz’ past comments and actions — from the protest mentioned in West’s e-mail to her flat-out false claims about the economy to her criticisms of the GOP as anti-woman to her outrageous accusation that Republicans want to “literally” send the country back to the Jim Crow era (an accusation so unbelievable that it doesn’t even deserve a defensive response) — it’s hard to disagree with West when he writes, “You have proven repeatedly you are not a Lady.” Frankly, it’s refreshing that West would revive the word. A little lady-like graciousness would be more than welcome in Washington.

The one-way nature of “civility” criticisms has been pointed out repeatedly. Fine for Democrats to be rude, but not OK for Republicans. At least West isn’t letting Wasserman Schultz off the hook — and, importantly, he took his complaints to Debbie Downer herself instead of bad-mouthing her behind her back.
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/20/debbie-wasserman-schultz-dismisses-allen-wests-searing-e-mail/

Tommy, you seem to have forgotten the mob Wassername Doltz organized at West’s office and these other un-lady like attacks on West that she has engaged in:

he’s (West) recently jumped the shark of crazy,” Wasserman Schultz said.

Wasserman Schultz said of West: “He (West) thinks it’s OK to objectify and denigrate women,” attempting to play the “guilt by association” game.

In short, the fugly Wassername Shultz’ serial character assassination attempts on one of America’s hero’s isn’t just un-lady like, they are the tactics of a lowly scr*nt. reap – sow – deal.

Semicolons imply that the two clauses surrounding it are independent but related. In your attempt to deflect attention from West you conflate his and Maher’s roles in society. I never made excuses for Maher, but I would think that most reasonable citizens would expect more from politicians than from C-list celebrities. Unless you’re looking to impeach Charlie Sheen, too.

You tell us, anyone that does not agree with West is a racist. That is the standard now right?

“Of course, describing a “Republican war on women” isn’t exactly fair. Conservatives have been quick to call out sexism and misogyny directed against politicians like former Gov. Sarah Palin and Rep. Michele Bachmann, and are probably just instants away from leaping to Rep. Wasserman Schultz’s defense.”

As well they should be. After all, Wasserman Schultz is known for her defense of Republican women in politics, isn’t she? No? Hmm…….

Schultz is being a racist against West who is black btw. 

Let me add that your defense seems to be not that it isn’t sexism, but rather that she deserved it. That’s pretty telling.

Looking at the twiiters, Tommy has a flair with the language. He should fit well as a guest on the Bill Maher show.

Insinuating that he hates the old people in his district is now considered policy? And the fact that she was lying to smear him doesn’t matter? Yeah okay, you’re almost as clueless as Tommy. I can’t believe he wrote an article about this with this tone. How many worse ways have conservative women been treated? Seriously, how many f*cking ways? 

West is being racist against Schultz who is Jewish btw.

As a politician, West should have been more careful with words. The history given on the ‘hot air’ website at least gives a better explaination than given by Tommy at the Mediaite.

sexist lol, tommy is hearing dog whistles again

sexist lol, tommy is hearing dog whistles again

so two wrongs make a right? Are you that immature? If what was done to Palin was so egregious, you think it’s right to do the same to another person?

Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a swine. But I thank her for the quote below. I’m sure it will be included in many Republican campaign ads in the fall of 2012. BTW, unemployment is expected to be over 8% in Nov 2012. LOL:

“We own the economy. We own the beginning of the turnaround and we want
to make sure that we continue that pace of recovery, not go back to the
policies of the past under the Bush administration that put us in the
ditch in the first place,” Wasserman Schultz told Mike Allen at
POLITICO’s ‘Playbook Breakfast.’Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57025.html#ixzz1SgDOnBHh
 

Liberals are allowed to be RACIST against blacks, as long as they’re conservative blacks!

btw, Don’t you just love the way MSNBC hosts are being BIATCHED-SLAPPED on their own shows by Tea Party Republicans?
Purge the spineless McCains & Mconnell’s – and get some REAL FIGHTERS in to do battle with the Lies-of-the-Left!

End the reign of Racists like Shultz.

“Emily’s List, who are running a petition demanding that West apologize”

I’m sure they’ll be running a petition demanding that Bill Maher, butt boy for the Democratic Party, apologize to Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin.

TPM= Tommy Points Memo

Shhhhh, you are breaking one of the liberal leftist rules.

Thou shalt not use a liberals words against them!

TPM is a ridiculous, partisan far-left outfit that even honest Liberals laugh at.

TPM is a ridiculous, partisan far-left outfit that even honest Liberals laugh at.

They’re a pathetic bunch, liberals.
They can’t deal with honesty, so everything’s a double-standard, misrepresentation or outright LIE!

Emily’s List? – Who cares?
Stand on principle, and things like Emily’s List – and the Democratic Party/Media – will appear as gnats on a Lion!

Allen is awesome and right, per usual.

“Read between the lines”. The very second Allen West announced his candidacy, Debbie Wassername Doltz has been repetitively launching the most vile, despicable, cowardly, personal character assaults at Congressman West.

Debbie Wassername Doltz is obviously one of the country’s most heinous racists ever who can’t stand the sight of a Black man in representing her neighboring district. 

If West was a White man, she wouldn’t have been driven so far over the edge in her numerous personal attacks against him. 

Is there any other member of Congress that Debbie Wassername Doltz has attacked so frequently, personally and viciously as she’s attack Allen West?

Nope! She’s a racist! You don’t even have to read between the lines!

Amen Norbit! MessNBC’s activist loons are getting their @sses handed to them by the GOP’s freshman congressman!

That’s dochebag Christopher in his element. Schultz and West go way back since their districts are next to each other. Last year Schultz made the same accusation as Christopher and had people protest in front of his headquarters. Why you ask? Because he wrote for a biker magazine that supported West and the Republican that ran against Schultz . Since some bikers have a sexist backround therefore West is guilty by association.
Stretch by any imagination except Shultz and Christopher. BTW Schultz is turning into the Pelosi of Florida.The talking parrot is hated by almost everyone except her district.

That’s called antisemitism. Maybe you should take Tommy’s job.

Emily’s List is so far left that Obama looks like a centrist to them. They DO have a large number of activist Jewish women, most of whom are also active with the Sisterhood, from all over the country. Aside from ALWAYS supporting Democrats, their primary issue is abortion/Planned Parenthood. Allen West is the wrong PARTY, the wrong RACE, the wrong GENDER, and the wrong RELIGION for Emily’s List. Do not discount them, however, they raise LOTS of money and mobilize through their temples.

Debbie Wasserman Shultz does NOT deserve an apology- she is NO LADY and she IS VILE. Her only saving grace seems to be her friendship with Gabby Giffords.

Have you noticed that the Professional Left has decided to attack GOP politicians in a way to question their mental health? It seems to be the new meme.

The simple answer to Tommy’s question is because 1) she is and 2) she isn’t

But C’mon…you just have to appreciate Tommy’s hypocrisy, inconsistency. Maybe he forgot about his own “apparent” short temper. I doubt it, but maybe!

Given what Tommy thinks about rep. West temperament/reaction, you think Tommy would think he and rep. West could be best buddies!

How was it sexist, you hack?

How was it sexist, you hack?

At about 50 seconds into the video clip above, Representative Wasserman-Schultz digresses from her remarks against the Cut-Cap-Balance Act to made a direct accusation against Representative West.

Maybe he could have ignored her attack, or maybe he could have responded in another manner. But she is not the aggrieved party in this dispute. She started it. She is a woman, but she is also the chair of the DNC and she forgot where she was when she issued this attack. She should apologize, and then he should apologize.

How in the world is what he said sexist? He said she wasn’t a lady. Had a woman said he wasn’t a gentleman-would you have called that sexist? Of course not. 

Allen West believes that liberal women weaken men by stealing the precious body fluids.

Allen West believes that liberal women weaken men by stealing the precious body fluids.

Allen West believes that liberal women weaken men by stealing the precious body fluids.

Take a deep breath, Dave.  Those veins on your forehead are starting to swell up again. 

Must be that bi polar disorder someone told me once I suffer from. LOL

i’d pay him to do it to you

“ Allen West came to Congress to do two things: kick ass and chew bubble gum.  This week, he ran out of bubble gum.On Monday, he wrote an essay for Red County delicately entitled, “At This Point, Anyone with an Obama 2012 Bumper Sticker is a Threat to the Gene Pool.”  In this essay, he expresses his disgust with the President’s debt ceiling scare tactics:”

 http://www.humanevents.com/search.php?topic_name=Human Events Blog

just curious, are you medicated or suffer from some sort of brain damage?

Sexist?  really?

“Whore, bitch and cu-T” now that would have been sexist…..too bad you never wrote an article about the “Palin is a cu–” t-shirts sported at Obama rallies and calling those folks out as sexist.

This was hardly a sexist attack, he went off on her, just like she goes off on every conservative/republican on a regular basis.  I think Debbie is a racist for going after West, on more than one occassion.  not to mention, her attack was filled with lies.  But that is for another day, I guess.

omg, is allen west a a@# hole or what, just saw it on the 5, where does he get the idea that he can speak like some clown down on washington st. here in phoenix, (by the way, not a good place to go if you come here) isent politicians held to a higher standerd ??? this is the person we want to lead the people ??? (or you guys accually) you people really should call animal control.

Rep. West apologizes and his cons fans do not.  Makes you wonder?????????

She says all this without ever stating that nearly 50% of the people in this country are not paying any Federal taxes but, are more than willing to shift their lack of responsibility to others. The Progressive Liberals have managed to promote a lie that alleviates personal responsibility to the point that people actually rely on that corrupt thinking to justify stealing from those who produce. They have promoted that lie so extensively, and often that people who should know better, believe it! A very sad commentary on our once proud culture.

She says all this without ever stating that nearly 50% of the people in this country are not paying any Federal taxes but, are more than willing to shift their lack of responsibility to others. The Progressive Liberals have managed to promote a lie that alleviates personal responsibility to the point that people actually rely on that corrupt thinking to justify stealing from those who produce. They have promoted that lie so extensively, and often that people who should know better, believe it! A very sad commentary on our once proud culture.

She says all this without ever stating that nearly 50% of the people in this country are not paying any Federal taxes but, are more than willing to shift their lack of responsibility to others. The Progressive Liberals have managed to promote a lie that alleviates personal responsibility to the point that people actually rely on that corrupt thinking to justify stealing from those who produce. They have promoted that lie so extensively, and often that people who should know better, believe it! A very sad commentary on our once proud culture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KvgtEnABY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KvgtEnABY

General Ripper and Allan West know the truth!

They will either trash Allen West or come up with conspiracy theories regarding why he apologized to make themselves feel better.
Trust me!

The only fault I find with Mr .West’s message is that his description of Ms Wasserman only scratched the surface of her vileness.

The only fault I find with Mr .West’s message is that his description of Ms Wasserman only scratched the surface of her vileness.

Definitely racist.  She should have smiled and nodded at everything he said like a good liberal does when a black person speaks.

He’s doing ads for a muffler shop now, isn’t he ?  “Take it from a person who knows about bad gas, you should bring your car in to Muffler Pro today !”

Like Anthony Weiner, for example.

Good thing that you’re never in any danger of that.

“I am not sure why Tommy Christopher is siding so firmly with the
Democrats here, especially the most radical ones such as Emily’s List
and the bloggers at TPM. ”

New around here, are you?…

This is rich. Screwing his daughter and complaining about Palin being “weak and self-centered.”  But it was “consentual,”  The HuffPo site is full of trashy, condescending New Yorkers.

Are you suggesting that Tommy Christopher is an obnoxious left-wing partisan? Say it isn’t so!

“Rep. Allen West (R-FL) launched a blistering, sexist attack on Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz via email Tuesday,”

Wow, Tommy.  That alternate universe you live in must be quite a place.  That’s “sexist”?  Bahahaha.  Dude, your side owns sexism and you know it.  Nice try covering for your side but again, fail.  Wasserman is vile and a few minutes of watching some of her greatest hits will attest to that.  But, you don’t care.  

It’s obvious that the epic failings of Obama are getting to you.  You’ve become more and more unhinged.  While it’s kinda fun to watch, it’s also a little sad.  

I don[‘t see how Rep. West’s remarks are sexist simply because Wasserman Schultz is a woman.

They weren’t some reflexive equivalent of “dumb slut” because of political differences.

He didn’t engage in insults about her appearance.

What he did was to fly off the handle in a manner that makes him look thin-skinned and ungentlemanly… 

They both could use a lesson in at least feigning some rudimentary respect for a peer.

Well maybe you could attack the specific  people who attacked Palin rather than this “Hey someone on your team attacked our women so we get to attack yours”

Tommy has defended conservatives when he thought they were being impugned unfairly.

Otherwise, when not engaged as Mediaite’s WH reporter…he’s spinning for Obama in ways that equate the president with being some sort of prescient master chess player, six moves ahead of all opponents… OR Tommy is saying “I know you are but what am I?”

Yeah, well…melanin level trumps matrillineally passed ethnicity, haven’t you heard?….

We should call animal control on the black Republican? Wow! Talk about racist.

Good for him. I don’t care one way or the other. Personally I think he owed her one but it shows what a stand up guy he is.

Is there a double standard for Democrats? Or is it okay to refer to a Democratic woman as a c*nt or a tw*t? Bill Maher and his guest thinks those words are okay when directed at Republican women, and I didn’t hear many Democrats speak out against him. 

So what Allen West said is very tame in comparison, If he had uttered them in the well of the House, then I would say his words were inappropriate and he should apologize. But instead it is Wasserman-Schultz who needs to apologize.

At about 50 seconds into the video clip above, Representative
Wasserman-Schultz digresses from her remarks against the Cut-Cap-Balance
Act to made a direct accusation against Representative West.

The part where she commits the despicable act of saying she can’t believe he’s supporting this bill because he has a lot of seniors in his district? Doesn’t seem all that vicious to me.

I can’t believe something this mild is what brought on his hissy fit. It’s kind a funny that he calls her a coward and vile for not confronting him face to face and then doesn’t confront her face to face, but complains to others in a letter. IMO, he’s acting like a petulant child over something so minor , which is odd given his military background.
He way over reacted to what is a common occurrence. You speak, someone gets up and disagrees. 

Will Shultz or Maher be the next Tommy Christopher love affiar.. 

Apparently, from what I’ve been reading here, this is not the first time that Wasserman-Schultz has attacked Allen West personally. She has it in for him, more than any other Republican in the Florida delegation.

But this time she attacked him from the floor of the House. And he just blew up. Maybe he overreacted, but his words were actually quite mild compared to what Democrats have been calling Republicans, especially Republican women. But there is a back story here and we do not know the half of it.

So Wasserman-Schultz gets no sympathy from me. She needs to apologize to West, publicly, and then maybe the two of them can work out a truce.

But this time she attacked him from the floor of the House.

It’s really stretching the term to call what she said an attack on him.

Maybe he overreacted, but his words were actually quite mild compared to what Democrats have been calling Republicans,especially Republican women

No maybe about it IMO. He was unprofessional, but it’s still a pretty minor incident. It just surprised me because he seemed so thin skinned for a guy with a serious military background.
 Let’s not misdirect the topic by comparing it to other things.

Apparently, from what I’ve been reading here, this is not the first time
that Wasserman-Schultz has attacked Allen West personally. She has it
in for him, more than any other Republican in the Florida delegation.

Well I don’t know. For example?

She needs to apologize to West, publicly,

For what? Being a tough politician and using strong language when she disagrees with someone?  If he can’t handle that without losing his cool what’s he doing there? 

I’ll see if I can discover what else she may have said. Maybe that’s just as overblown as her comments were this time.

Interesting that he said, “you’re no lady”  Maybe he’s not used to being challenged directly by strong willed women.

But this time she attacked him from the floor of the House.

It’s really stretching the term to call what she said an attack on him.

Maybe he overreacted, but his words were actually quite mild compared to what Democrats have been calling Republicans,especially Republican women

No maybe about it IMO. He was unprofessional, but it’s still a pretty minor incident. It just surprised me because he seemed so thin skinned for a guy with a serious military background.
 Let’s not misdirect the topic by comparing it to other things.

Apparently, from what I’ve been reading here, this is not the first time
that Wasserman-Schultz has attacked Allen West personally. She has it
in for him, more than any other Republican in the Florida delegation.

Well I don’t know. For example?

She needs to apologize to West, publicly,

For what? Being a tough politician and using strong language when she disagrees with someone?  If he can’t handle that without losing his cool what’s he doing there? 

I’ll see if I can discover what else she may have said. Maybe that’s just as overblown as her comments were this time.

Interesting that he said, “you’re no lady”  Maybe he’s not used to being challenged directly by strong willed women.

She didn’t do either. It’s politics in DC where people disagree with each other on the floor. If he can’t handle it what’s he doing there.

To answer your question, yes. In the end, Weiner’s own party deemed him unfit for office and forced his resignation. Are you calling for Republicans to do the same with this comparison?

what were those attacks?

what makes her not a lady and what makes her vile?  What does being Jewish have to do with anything?

Death penalty for calling another member “vile”?  I don’t think so.

Here’s a couple of them from a previous comment: 
http://tinyurl.com/3epxk4n
She’s been all over West’s sh*t since the day he decided to run for office, denigrating him with personal attacks. For some reason, she only treats Allen West in such a rabid, stalkerish, derogatory way. Somethings is up with that. She has problems and one of those problems seems to be with strong, Black men.

“Can we accuse her family of participating in incest?”
Like this?

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/04/08/redstate-crosses-the-line-implies-incest-in-attack-on-levi-john/

“ Would Tommy give an explaintion when Maher uses vulgar terms against Palins and Bachmann. Would Emily’s list start a petition to cancel Bill Maher at HBO? Oh well! I forgot, Bill Maher only uses vulgar language against Palins and Bachmann, that makes it acceptable. Tommy!”

Instead of making assumptions, why not just check?

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-calls-sarah-palin-the-c-word-during-his-stand-up-act/

Well, that first one was a joke, and the third was a reference to the tweet I was replying to, but yeah, I bet there are hundreds of hot-headed tweets out there from me. I think you miss the point. The problem isn’t West flipping out, it’s West flipping out for no goddam reason, and employing sexist language, to boot. It’s West calling her a coward, when it was he who fled the floor seconds before her remarks, then made the weak move of sending her (and the leadership) a nastygram, instead of saying it to her face. 

I am not discounting the comments made, but a better source would be a direct quote. Posting a comment that you said she made isn’t really a source.

“Tea Party ‘child’???”  In other words, you’re calling him, “Boy?”  And you whackos are worried about him denying DWS the honorific, “Lady?”  
RA-A-A-A-A-A-AC-C-C-C-CI-I-I-I-IS-S-S-ST-T-T-T!!!!

You haven’t answered the question, what does being Jewish have anything to do with this?

The quotes I posted are hyperlinks. If you click em, they’ll take you to the source. Or better yet just Google the quotes and you’ll find hundreds of sources.

It would have been nice to see the full context behind the reasons for West’s anger against Wasserman-Schultz here. It seems like this was just the last straw. That is not to excuse West for lashing out inappropriately.
Schultz has plenty to apologize for, not just West.

Tommy, language can be prejudicial- “flipping out,” did West “flip out” or did he “respond” to an attack by Wasserman Shultz? “No goddam reason” is YOUR opinion and can be debated by those who heard her words. Using the word “fled” as opposed to “left” or “exited” or “walked out”- your use of the word “fled” implies cowardice on West’s part, rather than the mere fact that the man spoke and then left the room. Your allegation  is, again, your OPINION, not a fact. The simple fact is that he left the floor of the House. “Nastygram” is obviously your opinion of his email- some people don’t share your opinion.

In the same way that West’s remarks were sexist.

In the same way that West’s remarks were sexist.

No, he did not call liberals ‘stupid’.  If I’m wrong, please give me the quote in which he called liberals stupid.

Who, may I ask, was the ‘biggest loser liberal’ of that time?  Couldn’t have been Carter; he was a conservative Democrat.

If he said that, then that must make him the most famous prostitute of recent history.

If that’s where the bar is set, that’s where the bar is set. Turnabout is fair play.

Not really.  West’s remarks can be considered sexist because by saying that she’s not acting like a lady, he is implying that she is not acting in the way that he expects a woman to act.  It also implies that she should act more like how HE expects a woman to act.  That’s pretty darned sexist.

As for Tedderman’s comment; I absolutely found it insensitive but I did not find it racist.  And West did, in fact, fire a gun next to a prisoner’s head for interrogation purposes.  It’s the reason he’s no longer in the service.

Nothing Congressman West said about Wassrman Schultz was incorrect. As a matter of fact, after watching her on CNBC, MSNBC, FOX Business, etc.. spew her bald faced lies week after week, rudely and frantically interrupting anyone who debates her to make sure the other point of view doesn’t get heard and her lies aren’t exposed…….West’s criticism was well-deserved, and long overdue.

Allen Scumbag West is the epitamy of teabagger mentality. Attempting to govern based on ideology iinstead of rationality.  West lives in DWS district and was too cowardly too run against her knowing he would lose.   He is the ulitmate coward rather than fighting his charges in a military courts martial (if found guilty he would have gotten 8 years in jail) he chose to retire like the wimpy coward he is.   He is a disgrace to all of us who served this country honorably 

Wasserman Schultz has been getting away with outrageous lies and insults to any and all who disagree with the Marxists that were once the Democratic Party for a long, long time. I hardly think West giving her some of her own medicine after all that time is “flying of the handle”. Her behavior IS despicable and has been every time I’ve seen her speak on TV. She IS a disgrace. 
West also sent the e-mail to her directly, not to the press.
The outrage from the Left over this, while Bill Maher and his guests are allowed to call Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann “MILFS” is beyond hypocritical

Using apparent liberal logic I would draw the conclusion that all Democrats just don’t like black people.

Until you have served in a war time situation. Then and only then can you speak of Mr. West’s allegations of torture. I like many others were under orders to do some of the things we’ve done. Does it make it right? You just have to live it to find out. The enemy would gladly do the same to a captured soldier. Those of you who say that two wrongs don’t make a right. Then wait until your buddy or brother-in-arms. is caught and tortured. Then and only then can you understand what it feels like. I would be happy to torture a few more!!!!!!

Wasserman is a train wreck waiting to happen.  She is an all-up racist bigot.  She needs to learn how to act with decorum on television and in the halls of Congress.

After hearing all the racist claims from the Left lately Id have to agree.  

So your saying there is no accepted standard for females and or males for that matter to act.  Well if you are I beg to differ with you.  I understand the attitude of Liberals when it comes to values and morals, they dont like being held to any standard, and thats your problem.   Others do have standards they like to see held in public.   But what the hell, now days you can be labeled racist based on the color of bubble gum you chew. AND Plz knock off the ridiculous double standard.

yes like your opinion that some how being Jewish effects this story/

Of course not.  SHE is a Liberal and its not fair to belittle a liberal.  NOOOO it dont make any difference that every talking head out there on the left does those things to Conservative women, Liberals are smarter and know when its ok to be nasty.  How arrogant can you get.   How long to you believe this sort of crap will fly.   I believe Americans are slowly learning and are fed up with your arrogance and your hypocritical ways.  

Tell you what Josh,  you guys knock it off and maybe, just maybe you will see the same from the right, but untill then,  why would you not expect the same trash thrown at your side.  Tell me that.  And grow up.  Your whining because someone did what your side does daily.   How childish are you anyway.

My reference to Judaism had to do solely with EMILY’S LIST calling for an apology from Lt. Col. West. My two friends who are Jewish are in the fundraising hierarchy of EMILY’S LIST, Debbie Wasserman Shultz is Jewish Democrat woman who supports abortion and planned parenthood, thus EMILY’S LIST can check off all of the boxes with her and wouldn’t CONSIDER even being POLITE to Lt. Col. West on any occasion, on any day. 

Don’t try to play anti-Semitism games with me- I have family who live in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. One of them designs missile guidance systems for Israel and I am glad daily that he’s a brilliant man!

I never called you an anti-Semite, I was just asking what it had to do with the story and you didn’t answer.  I am very glad your family defends Israel as well.  Its just, and correct me if I am wrong, you did go out of you way to point out that Schultz was Jewish, as is most (albeit uncorroborated) of Emily’s List.  You said they were part of the “Sisterhood” (your words) from around the country who raise LOTS (your emphasis) of money.  Then you say that they simply don’t like Lt. Col. West because he is a Republican, Black, Christian male. I believe Lt Col West did over-react and Rep Schultz did play dirty politics, but such is the game.  I believe both are playing to their base to raise money for their respected campaign.  This is a non story. But, and granted I am just some blow hard, it did seem to me that you made an issue of her being Jewish.

JSBH, I wrote a lengthy response to you, but lost it- and now, I’m in the late afternoon exhausted stage. I didn’t answer your initial question for two reasons. 1)I’m just learning how this Disquus thing works and 2) I suspected I knew where you were coming from.

I did not say that Emily’s List is comprised of predominantly Jewish women- I don’t have a clue about their membership. I do know that my two friends raise and give big money to Emily’s List and they are devoutly pro-abortion, devoutly Democrat, and influence a lot of other women both through Emily’s List and in the sisterhood at their temples. Wasserman Shultz would get their vote because she is 1) pro-abortion 2) Democrat and 3) MOT. I don’t know that women’s groups at different temples raise ANY money for Emily’s List, and, in fact, I don’t think they do- they’re engaged in real charity. My friends, on the other hand, DO raise lots of money for Emily’s List. You’re conflating my friends with people in general. Perhaps I was not clear enough. I hope this clears it up for you.

Emily’s List would oppose Allen West even if he gave DWS chocolates and flowers and composed a song praising her. That’s just a reasonable conclusion from what I know about Emily’s List.

So Rep. Allen West was
upset with Rep. Wasserman Schultz’s comments after he left the House Floor. He
insults her, and tells her that if she has something to say, “Say it to my face”.
Instead of saying it to her face, he sends it via e-mail. It is ironic that he
does not understand the lack of logic in his actions.

West’s reaction came to quickly, had he counted to ten I am sure that he could have found much more productive ways to handle his reaction DWS..  but to say for no “goddam reason” is a not attributing to DWS the criticism that she deserves.  The problems between these two go back further than the incident on the floor a couple of days ago..  as you know she has in community organizational/union type fashion organized against West in his district.  Given that and her history of overwhelming demonstrations of her willingness to tow not just her party’s line, but the extreme side of her party’s line at the expense of dialogue or productive discourse, it is easy to understand West’s reaction.  Even so, in my opinion he was not wise in his hasty response.  Having said that the House does have it’s rules of Decorum and DWS  at least in intent broke those rules, maybe not to the letter, but there was no mistaking to whom she was addressing her remarks, remarks which at their core are intellectually dishonest. Her remarks came on the House floor, public and broadcast to the nation and to his constituents, his came in an email in which he shared his opinion of her but in no way did he embarrass her in front of her constituents or the nation, she has shared this in a further attempt to discredit Rep. West. Personally I don’t think that she has anymore influence on his voters than he on hers. 

Unparliamentary Speech

A Member should avoid impugning the motives of another Member

West probably never played the grade school games that are so well played by our politicians today and the press that supports them…  Best illustrated by the former president Clinton’s quote ” it depends on what the definition of is is”.  Wassermann Schultz did impugn West’s reputation and motives on the floor of the House but did not technically use his name..  had she used his name she would have been in vilolation of house rules.. Of course as she decrys her outrage, and as the press mounts their battle against Rep. West, there will be little mention of her so closely skirting of the rule.

I am sick and tired of my gender using every dirty tactic in our voluminous arsenal to attack, impugn and  try to emasculate every man who doesn’t agree with them and to allow them to walk all over him. “Ladies,” we, your sisters, know all the tricks; we’ve seen you play them since first grade and we reject them. Gentlemen, those of you who are taught to honor your mothers, wives and daughters, women like Debbie Wasserman Shultz are playing a “gotcha” game that you don’t even understand- it’s a “witchy,” female game and it shows the very worst side of our gender. 

Debbie Wasserman Shultz claims the right to lie publicly about Lt. Col. Allen West and DEMANDS that he prostrate himself and take it. “EQUALITY” requires that she be treated the same way as any male politician would be treated. She cannot claim female privilege and fight dirty- the boys don’t play that way, Debbie!

How do you figure she is racist from what was said?

I guess I would have to see every comment she made in congress to determine whether she is racist or not. What I got from the clip that was shown, all she did was imply that West was committing political suicide by voting against the wishes of the majority of voters in his own district. It is her opinion, of course, but where was his race in any way stated or even hinted at?

As for the sexist counterattack, I think that is unfair, too.

What it really boils down to is playing state politics based on the number of old people in Florida vs. federal politics, and that is where Wassermann-Schultz could be attacked.

West has a short temper. That is the crux and the cause of this “big news.”

Correct. It’s so minor. He got PO’d not just because of this but because of her history of confronting him and he lost it a little. Big deal! Neither one committed any horrible offense. Moving on.

I’ve been noticing a pattern of Dems being accused of some offense simply because they fight back aggressively. Please stop. It sounds like whining.

Yes, we understand that you are an apologist for torture. You would have made a good little German in 1939. You would have been hired in a heartbeat by Lavrentri Beria.

We know what you are.

When the Republikans get through returning the women of this country back to barefoot and pregnant, I want the burqua concession.
 As for Jim Crow, exactly why do you think they are on the crusade to make every citizen have a government ID card to show at the voting booth? Students and non-lillywhite who want to vote are more likely to vote democratic. 
Look up Jeff Sharlet on Am’zon and read. You will be shocked at how you are  being played, by the guys you think are on your side. 

Do we have censorship here?

Hey when they gut Social Security and Medicare you’ll probably one of the first in line to complain about it. But wait, i quess you expect all the rich money to trickle down on you.  You and your right wing buddies ain’t to bright.Unless you are rich , which I sincerely doubt

Considering his years of service and reading about what happened I think he made a decision and accepted the consequences of his choice like a man. If you don’t like the guys politics that’s fine, but I’m disgusted with people eagerly taking pot shots at his military service.

Until you have served in a war time situation. Then and only then can
you speak of Mr. West’s allegations of torture. I like many others were
under orders to do some of the things we’ve done. Does it make it right?
You just have to live it to find out.

I agree. I thought we were well past those days when soldiers returning home from Vietnam were treated with scorn and ridicule for trying to serve their country. The soldier in the field , facing life and death and experiences most of us could not imagine, deserves our respect and gratitude rather than judgement.

Most soldiers serve honorably in extremely difficult circumstances. West is not one of those.

Most soldiers serve honorably in extremely difficult circumstances. West is not one of those.

I don’t know what your military experience is , but I respectfully disagree. From what I’ve read one of the disturbing truths of Iraq and Afghanistan and the war on terror is that soldiers can’t always tell who is an ally and who isn’t. Who is aiding the enemy and who isn’t. Thousands of innocent civilians have been shot  because of this.  I wouldn’t 2nd guess a man with 20 years experience in a difficult situation where a choice had to be made. Add to that the fact that he took responsibility for his actions that ended his career in the military.

As I said, I may not like his politics  but slamming his military service is a low blow IMO. Part of the reason is that I see that kind of knee jerk repeating of partisan talking points from both sides all to often.

I’m not sure how much. Part of the guidelines is no personal insults aimed at other posters and you can flag a post you think is offensive, but I’m not sure how strictly it is enforced.

My military experience is limited but not zero. I was in Iraq as a civilian in 2003-2004 and worked closely with the military, often riding in convoy with them until our management decided that was too dangerous. I have been shot at but never been in combat per se.

That having been said, having a suspect in custody and torturing him is not equivalent to being in a firefight and having to make instantaneous life-and-death decisions. Frankly, the sort of treatment West meted out to his suspect (guilty or otherwise) was precisely the type of treatment that helped disaffected Iraqis recruit from among their fellow citizens to stand up a whole generation of terrorists/freedom fighters (pick one).

Torture is evil, it’s unAmerican, it generates more torture, and it’s just plain stupid. I’m not sure that the incident “ended West’s military career,” but it certainly should have.

And I’m not happy having such an individual as a lawmaker.

You make some good points. I agree torture doesn’t work Hell, I’d say our continued military presence in Iraq and Afghanistan helps to recruit for the extremists to some extent.
I guess I allow a little more latitude than you do in making decisions under extreme conditions. I don’t care for the man’s politics but I respect his service and won’t criticize him on that account. I’d rather focus on who he is now and what policies he supports and why.

A legit response, although character *does* matter. However, if we restrict ourselves to electing angels, all we’ll end up with is demons.

As it turns out, I also intensely disagree with everything West stands for politically, so I’m content to let his military career speak for itself — and I think what it’s saying is something that most Americans acquainted with the facts would reject.

Rep. Allen West is right, Debbie Wasserman Schultz is NOT a lady and I thought that for years now.  How was Mr. West to know what Mrs. Wasserman Schultz was going to talk about after he left the floor and she got there, she could have said “hang around Mr. West as I have comments to make regarding you”. So she is also a coward.  How do you people think Mrs. Wasserman Schultz got to be DNC Chair, it sure wasn’t because she acts lady like, she is ruthless, unprofessional and dispicable = vile just like many of her fellow male politician buddies.

So if what Rep. Allen said about Mrs. Wasserman Schultz is sexist, I’d like to hear what she thinks about the filthy vile things Bill Maher has said about Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann.  If indeed Mrs. Wassermann Schultz is a real lady she would condemn such disgusting comments said about fellow female politicians by anyone, even a self proclaimed comedian like Bill Maher.  Perhaps she did condemn Mahers comments and I missed it, if so, my sincere apologies.

Rep. Allen West has no apologizing to Mrs. Wasserman Schultz to do and I hope he stands his ground.  Obviously trouble has been brewing between the two of them for a long time now and West did the right thing by addressing his concerns via email to her, she took it public just like a little whining coward would do imo. 

Congresswoman Wasserman-Schultz behaved according the the decorum of the House of Representatives. She referred to “the gentleman from Florida”, who had spoken on the floor just before she did and then had promptly left the chamber. Had he stuck around, he would have heard the Congresswoman speak, or he could always read the Congressional record. The email, on the other hand, was not only rude and threatening, but is in violation of the rules the members of the House agree to abide by. He chose to CC the email to the leadership at the time he sent it to her, so that email could have gone to the media from many different people. West did prove the Congresswoman wrong on one aspect of her speech- he is no gentleman.

Yes, because compairing a comedian to an elected official is totally legit!

Yes, because compairing a comedian to an elected official is totally legit!

Reagan was a sham, a bad actor in B movies.

Seems I’ve found out a Lib kool-aid supplier, pimping the Dem party PR. 

The RACIST author also falsely accused a black man of making sexist statements, because he outed Wasserman-Schultz for what she is.