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WATCH: Soldier Finally Comes Out To His Father, Records Whole Thing In Amazing Video

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“Hey, can I tell you something?” asks the young soldier, his voice shaking.

That’s the moment that comes shortly into a video on YouTube in which an active duty soldier finally comes out to his father over the phone. The video was recorded mere hours after Don’t Ask Don’t Tell was finally repealed, allowing homosexual US servicemen and women to serve openly and, while we can read the statements from the President hailing the defeat of the “discriminatory law” and hear about the large parties that took place last night at midnight, nothing will spell out just how large a moment this is better than watching the look on the young man’s face as his father tells him he loves him.

This is the culmination of a long journey for the soldier who goes by the YouTube handle “AreYouSurprised.” Ever since last April, he has been recording short videos documenting his attempt to build up the courage to come out to his family, friends, and fellow soldiers. In every other video, his face has been hidden. In today’s the audience can see it for the first time.

Watch the coming out video below:

(h/t Pat’s Papers)

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  • Anonymous

    Disgusting. What a lousy little twerp.

  • http://twitter.com/aipfan aipfan

    Excuse me, I’ve got something in my eye…

  • Anonymous

    Been there, done that. And it was just as hard as is was for this guy. I thought I was going to die if I said anything. You always have this fear of your parents rejecting you. In my case, that rejection never came. I think I know what this guy is feeling. It is such a relief.

  • Anonymous

    Pathetic. Now everyone looks askance at his poor father, who doesn’t deserve this. Or, maybe he does.

  • Anonymous

    Me too. Courageous of him to do it and share it with the world.

  • Anonymous

    and may I add, I was very relieved about the way his Dad reacted, and proud of him too for having his priorities straight.

  • ROTFLMAO

    I can understand! Not many people would want to admit to his or her
    parents, or anyone else, for that matter that they have a thing for sticking
    their nose in someone elses skivvies! (I purposely cleaned that up) !

  • Ardiva

    YOU are the one who is disgusting!

  • Ardiva

    He did courageously well. Many blessings to him and his family.

  • Texan

    Why do they claim they want to be “equal” but scream for attention and preferential treatment?

  • Observing from afar

    Truly touching moment.  Kudos to the dad for being wise enough to know what his son needed to hear just at that moment.

  • Redleaf

    I’m sure he came out because he was a cowardly soldier who smiled every morning before climbing into the shower with other men. This “man” is a disgrace to the armed forces. He should be court martialed.

  • Anonymous

    Why? He’s serving his county? He is putting HIS life on the line to keep you safe. If you can’t respect that… there is something wrong with you.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    You lack grace.

  • Pit Boss

    You’re an asswipe.

  • Garamond1975

    Those that are most homophobic, tend to be closeted self-hating gays themselves. Come out of the closet, Redleaf, you’ll feel better. I’m proud of this man. A true patriot. 

  • Pit Boss

    Out of curiosity, say your son were gay and he came out to you. What would your reaction be, Stoneyjack?

  • ChrisG

    The only ones who would look askance at either this brave soldier or his father are ones not worthy of their concern…

    Such as losers like you.

  • Pit Boss

    Maybe someday you can tell him that face-to-face. At which point your entire world will crash down on you when you get your ass beaten down by a gay guy.

  • http://profiles.google.com/fatlibertarianinokc Fat Libertarian

    Being gay and having to come out is a very unique experience.

    Coming out is a very difficult thing to do no matter who you are.

    I remember those feelings of your heart pounding and being shaky… 

    It comes from the years of growing up and hiding it.  It builds up and up.

    In many ways it’s blown out of proportion.   

    The reason he “broadcast it” was so more gay people will be encouraged.

    Coming out is entirely unique to gay people.

    Not everyone’s gonna get it, but maybe they’re not supposed too.

    Maybe it’s supposed to be unique to us.  Those of you who’re anti-gay

    and don’t like these kinds of things need to understand something.

    Whether this kid comes out or not, he’s always going to be gay.  

    Whether he acts on it or not, he’s always going to be gay.

    Whether you like it or not, he’s always going to be gay.

    It cannot be changed and it won’t go away.  

    Whether you or HE like’s it or not.

  • TruDat

    More violent rhetoric from the hypocritical left-wing loons.

  • Pit Boss

    “You don’t have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to be able to shoot straight.”
    - Barry Goldwater

  • TruDat

    How sweet, just darling, so, so special and heart warming.  Someone get me a fruit cup.

  • TruDat

    You hate Republicans, so we can assume you’re against Goldwater’s statement.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tim-Malone/100002475802402 Tim Malone

    Because doing it at the dinner table on Thanksgiving wouldn’t be awkward enough? 

  • Super Liquidator

    says the guy sitting on the couch

  • ChrisG

    Yes, we liberal loons cheer when our military members who serve our country give a good beat down to some fat slob who shows such disrespect to those defending our country…

    Got a problem with dat?

  • TruDat

    No problem with it; just pointing out the never ending liberal hypocrisy.

  • ChrisG

    Umm…..

    grown ups can applaud a statement by someone they typically disagree with when that position is worthy of respect.

    I am no fan of goldwater.  I disagree with Fat Libertarian and Tatboy more often than not…

    But I commend them on their statements on this issue.

    Perhaps you will understand when you grow up….

  • ChrisG

    Yes it is heart warming.  And very courageous.

    Even if you do not recognize his courage in coming out so publicly, surely you must respect his courage for serving his counrty?

    What have YOU done little boy?

    Other than being such a brave little Keyboard Kommando on the anonymous internet?

    Huh tough guy? 

  • Anonymous

    Dad sounds like a good guy, funny too.  “Wanna tell mom for me?”  “Naw I don’t think so son.” lol.  Very nice to see especially with all the crap news that always comes out, was expecting it to go far far different.

  • TruDat

    Well, I rear ended you mom.

  • TruDat

    Please do enlighten me you simple minded putz.

  • http://twitter.com/MerryMarjie MerryMarjie

     You, sir, have lowered the level of the conversation just by appearing on this board.  You are not funny, just horribly disillusioned with your own life that you have to make fun of someone else.

  • Anonymous

    Liberals, gay activists and Hollywood TV shows constantly bash middle Americans and southerners as being stupid, uneducated, ignorant bigots.
    I wonder if any of them take notice of the father’s accent.

  • http://twitter.com/MerryMarjie MerryMarjie

    By “preferential treatment,” do you mean being yelled at, hated, clubbed, beaten and scorned?  Do you mean all of the rude encounters, sermons, distasteful looks, snide remarks and murders?  Perhaps their “scream for attention” is really an agonizing cry over the contempt and disdain they’ve had to suffer all of their lives.

    Welcome to 2011 America, Texan, home of the FREE and the BRAVE.

  • ceeza

    God speed kid..

  • Victor Noir

    Earth to asshat:  they are equal, and they scream for equality.  This guy in the video has more balls than all the guys you’ve blown in bus station bathrooms combined.

  • Redleaf

    Whatever. Just be glad you didn’t share a shower with him. And imagine being on the battlefield with a gay guy. I’m sure he cowers in a corner during a firefight. Might mess up his hair.
    Gays are bad for the military. Period. 

  • Rick Patel

    Oooh, Bruce. May I call you Bruce? Dad sends word: Keep your mouth shut & your wrist straight at home, or don’t come home.

  • TruDat

    I was around when you wonderful liberal loons spat upon the Vietnam vets returning home.  Yeah, you libs are a wonderful bunch.

  • Victor Noir

    You’re just jealous because you don’t have the guts to come out to your parents.  Not that they don’t know already.  In fact, your mother was just saying to me the other night, “I think Carlton is gay.  His penis tastes bitter.”  She’s on to you, dude.

  • ChrisG

    actually my mom is dead so that’s not possible, but judging from your immature response, I was clearly correct in my assessment.

    You’re just a Keyboard Kommando.  Armchair Chicken Hawk.

    Your not fit to shine this brave soldier’s boots. 

    Loser.

    I suspect you know that on some level which is why you lash out like such a pathetic and nasty little troll…

  • ChrisG

    Sadly you do not have the intellectual or emotional maturity for enlightenment.

    If someone thinks that it is impossible to ever agree with someone across the aisle, they are either simpleminded or rabidly partisan.

    In either case, too much trouble to bother trying to educate.

  • Anonymous

    My wife works with a young woman whose father is a career military guy and since he found out she was lesbian he has refused to even see her again.. he ought to see this!

  • TruDat

    I cornholed her prior to her death.

  • TruDat

    Good, go play with yourself then.

  • Anonymous

    you’re the one with the hypocrisy problem.  all this article/video is about is an American soldier/Hero fighting for our country being honest with his family about who he really is.  you’re the one spitting on this soldier via your words, not us.  you’re the one projecting about liberal loons when the awful comments directed towards this man are from the soulless righties. 

    it’s your side – not the left – that doesn’t think this soldier is worth as much as others because he’s gay. 

    it’s your side that is the hypocrite in the room – always screeching at the left for not being patriotic enough, for not supporting the troops.  and look at yourself and your RW brothers in arms.

    you should be ashamed.  but, since you’re a rightie, you won’t be. 

  • Anonymous

    and you know this because? 

    you’ve been appalling on this thread and projecting characteristics of him that you obviously have in yourself. nothing he did demonstrated any cowardice.

    your words, though, tell many of us all we need to know about the quality/caliber of a person you are.  because what other type of creature would say the odious things you have been saying on this thread.

  • Anonymous

    I think it was New Jersey? :)

  • ChrisG

    Are you a plant Redleaf?

    NO ONE could possibly this ignorant!

    You’re just pretending right?

    If you are for real, you obviously have no knowledge of military history.

    Gays have been in the military since the Spartans and beyond. 

    See Churchill’s comments on the royal navy.

    American service members have been taking showers with gay men thru out our military history.

    What a little coward you are.  The gay soldier has you shaking in your boots!  He might take a glimpse at your little pecker in the shower!

    Considering your obvious overcompensation issues, I doubt it’s of much interest to anyone gay or straight.

  • TruDat

    You have the perfect moniker for a left-wing loon.

  • ChrisG

    I wasn’t alive then so it definitely wasnt me.

    Considering your juvenile mentaility I doubt you were either.

    If that did happen (which has been debated), I wholeheartedly condemn those actions.

    So nice try at deflection, but that doesn’t change the fact that you’re just a chickenshit Keyboard Kommando who actually has the NERVE to denigrate this brave young man who volunteered to risk his life in service of his country.

    Really?

    Hopefully you will one day grow and learn enough to be ashamed of your current self.

  • Garamond1975

    You do know that “Redleaf” is a gay term for losing one’s virginity? “He turned over his ‘redleaf.’  Or “He had his ‘redleaf’ lifted.” Just thought you should know.

  • ChrisG

    seriously, how old are you?  does your momma know you’re playing on the computer?

    with such language no less!

    Time for her to wash your mouth out with soap!

  • ChrisG

    a good moniker for you would be:

    “Chickenshit Keyboard Kommando who avoids service while denigrating those who DO have the balls to risk their necks”

    Or is that too long?

  • Anonymous

    I see you are a graduate of the country’s finest smarm school. So you don’t like what he said, (and I don’t  like it either), you did not have to go where you went with it. That is bottom feeder 101 stuff and someone should tell you, so I did. Consider it a public service.

  • TruDat

    If only we could all have your intellect, not.  Why do all the libbies assume their intellectual?  Have you ever heard anyone other than a liberal talk about how intelligent liberals are?  Me either.

  • TruDat

    Hey ChrisG, don’t take your homosexuality out on me.  Go back to masturbating to your Chaz Bono poster.

  • TruDat

    Says the conscientious objector (on the grounds he’s a Muslum.

  • Anonymous

    Here you are again making an idiot of yourself. By all means continue, you seem to be on a roll.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1431811538 Josh Kim

    Good for him.

  • ChrisG

    actually I’m agnostic.

    didn’t serve because I realize I would be ill suited for military life, but acknowledge and honor the sacrifice of those who do.

    what’s YOUR excuse arm chair chickenhawk?

    You’ve yet to demonstrate that you are even fit to shine his shoes.

    Yet you still feel you have the right to criticize this brave young man who is so CLEARLY your better?

    Really?

  • Anonymous

    Here’s a hint: They are bashed with hatred and called Teabaggers every day on Mediaite.

  • ChrisG

    Considering I have yet to see ONE intelligent post among your diarrhetic outpouring, we have little reason to doubt your LACK of intellect.

  • Vasallese

    I liked it. I am glad he could tell father and his father still loves him. This man deserves our respect. TruDat, Rick Patel, Redleafg, TExan and Stoneyjack do not deserve anything.

  • Jp7077

    Soldier:….Dad…..I’m Gay

    Dad….Son… we knew this ….did you think we’re BLIND….why do we have to discuss this…..especially on youtube on the internet……You don’t want to know what happens in my and your mothers bedroom after the lights go out…….we really don’t need to know what happens in yours…

  • Anonymous

    I found the original comment and “Voctor Noir’s” response to it both in bad taste. I will never understand why liberals bash those they think are anti-gay by calling them gay. It comes off like deep down they think being gay is a bad thing so they use it as an insult. My brother is gay and it hurts to see either person bashing homosexuality.

  • ChrisG

    Nah, we know there are good folks in the south and middle america!

    We bash and mock based on a person’s teabaggery not on their geographic location!  That would be prejudiced and unfair!

    This good man and father is clearly not a teatard!

  • ChrisG

    well, they do deserve our disgust!

    and possibly, if we are feeling especially charitable, our pity.

    I imagine it is not pleasant being such an ignorant and hateful person.

  • Anonymous

    Did you listen to their conversation? His dad was very supportive! And the most of who viewed his
    video on YouTube were very supportive.

  • http://twitter.com/paoligarcy Paolina Garcia

    That’s because the liberals understand that being gay is a bad thing.

    How is pushing your dick in someone’s asshole not a bad thing? It can cause bleeding, HIV, and in some cases can cause difficulties when attempting to use the bathroom (I need not describe). It certainly can’t be described as healthy human behavior (procreation generally is supposed to create something, i.e. children).

    And generally speaking, most homosexuals don’t choose to be gay, but it is not genetic, it is usually the result of abuse of some sort (i.e. Michael Jackson abused as a child, grows up to be gay). It’s just the sad cycle of the world. I knew someone in high school, a guy who secretly liked another guy, so he’d always try to get beaten up by the guy because he enjoyed it.

    Male homosexuality is generally a symbiotic abuse-abused relationship where one person takes out anger on another and another has learned to “love hate” (for example if the only love they got from their father was abuse they are more likely to interpret abuse as love).

  • http://twitter.com/paoligarcy Paolina Garcia

    No, he is just describing the real nature of what the man does. But actually he did clean it up. What he should of said it’s hard to admit to anyone that you accept another man’s penis up your asshole or force yours down another man’s arsehole.

    Sticking things where they don’t belong, so to speak.

    So many homosexuals have been abused by family members or other things so perhaps the blame belongs on those who abused them, but it’s a cycle of abuse and unproductive relationships. The average homosexual has a dozen times more partners than the average heterosexual, and they have numerous health risks that heterosexuals do not have.

  • Anonymous

    We are in complete agreement there. Not only is it insulting but it makes them look petty and small.

  • Anonymous

    We will just have to agree to disagree…. a lot.

  • Anonymous

    Anyone else appalled at the proportion of “Like” that occurs with the awful, odious comments spewed by Redleaf, TruDat, carletonwest?
     
    It’s not just this thread you’ll see it on, but RWers sure enjoy hitting the “Like” button on the vile things their brethern say. 
     
    And in this context, they are instulting a US soldier, fighting for us simply because he’s gay.  They don’t want to be called homophobes or racists or inbred or christianists or any thing like that.  But what are we supposed to call them when they act like homophobes, act like racists, justify their awful actions misusing what God intends and constantly denigrate our President, his wife and sometimes their children?
     
    I prefer soulless righties.  Hypocrites (but that’s a such a given). 
     
    You righties keep trying to destroy America, I’ll be over here applauding soldiers like the young man above as well as those who are out there defending us (even if I strongly object to what they are participating in).
     
    Maybe some of  you need to get a life, a job, or something to enrich yourselves instead of spewing hatred day in and day out on sites like mediatite. 

  • Anonymous

    I wonder how the GayRepublicanForum feel about DADT, this and Michele Bachmann?

    It’s ironic that this soldier probably feels more wary about speaking to his father, than his own current Active Duty. It’s a brave to do and so publicly as well.

  • Anonymous

    Your descriptive details were not necessary, and your expressed ignorance is not helpful. You may not like gays, and I am not particularly fond of them, but your attitude is repugnant. Someday when you are confronted with how life is not monochromatic, I hope you remember that we are not in control of everything and sometimes you have to accept things you don’t particularly care for.

    You didn’t need to go there, but now that you have, perhaps you should pray for the strength to accept what you have no control over. If what this father has is unconditional love for his son, why do you think anyone really cares what you think of it?

  • News Of The World

    I’m sure this was the hardest thing this young man has ever had to do.  Congratulations to him.  What a great video.  ”I still you, son”. What great words those must have been for him to hear.

  • Anonymous

    Man, you must be a great dad :I

  • Anonymous

    Man, you must be a great dad :I

  • Anonymous

    He could be and if he is.. good for him that he didn’t let the ignorance of many other Tea Partiers effect how he feels about the people that really matter in his life.

  • Anonymous

    Finally, a right-winger who actually scored points in my book. Well done, sir.

  • News Of The World

    That’s why I hardly ever come around here anymore.  Too many intolerant leeches who have nothing else to do in life than troll comment sections of websites like this one spewing their hate and vitriol.  Those you mentioned are truly despicable.

  • Anonymous

    It should be “…assume THEY’RE (not their) intellectual…” & “Me NEITHER (not either).

  • ChrisG

    I agree with both of your points.

    as a female liberal, I can only think that perhaps it’s a guy thing?

    knowing that the homophobes consider being called gay the worst smear on earth….the liberal (male) goes with it thinking it’s an effective insult (in the mind of the insulted)….?

    I don’t know.

  • ChrisG

    the american psyciatric association certainly does NOT agree with your assessment.

    what exactly are YOUR credentials to make such a claim?

    just that you had a friend in high school????

    wow, some scientific standards there!

  • Anonymous

    They only thing never ending if your rhetoric.

  • ChrisG

    your credentials please?

    p.s.

    not all homosexuals engage in anal sex….

    some heterosexuals engage in anal sex…

    the mouth was not ‘designed’ for oral sex, but thank god someone thunk it up, huh???

    Unless you can provide credentials to back up your pseudo-scientific claims, no one should be taking you seriously.

  • TruDat

    Blow me.

  • TruDat

    Well, well, well.  If it isn’t Mr. Sensitive using a gay slur to describe members of the Tea Party.  What a hypocritical simpleton you are!

  • TruDat

    “Teatard”?  Really?  You hypocrite.

  • Anonymous

    We’re not all bad. ;)

  • South Park Conservatives

    I’d rather WATCH paint dry.

  • TruDat

    Actually, you’re annoying.

  • ChrisG

    don’t ever go to Fox Nation!  The comments are not only hateful and racist but extremely VIOLENT!  The more violent, the more likes!

    Comments frequently need to be shut down because they spiral into such a cess pool of racism and violence

  • TruDat

     ”I still you, son”.

    What’s so great about those words?  They don’t even make sense.

  • TruDat

    I deserve your disgust?  Oh no, a liberal’s disgust!?!  What a compliment.

  • TruDat

    Interesting that it’s the libs who always resort to protesting, property damage, and violence against police and military personnel when they don’t get their way.  But keep going with the propaganda, someone somewhere might fall for it.

  • DCBorn

    How cute you are with your “shock value” language.   You ccould have made your argument without the first paragraph garbage.  It ruins the whole debate.  Grow up.

  • Jp7077

    His Dad WAS very supportive……….but why broadcast a private conversation on youtube or the internet?……..unless he was trying to get his 15 minutes of fame……and I do beleive this should have been a private family conversation……….no need to broadcast it to the world.

  • DCBorn

    After reading your posts for quite some time, I am now convinced you acted after her death, not prior.

  • Anonymous

    neither are we.  though I’m firm believer that all hard-lined wingnuts (either side) are stubborn and insane.  thank god for us rational thinkers.

  • Pit Boss

    “How is pushing your dick in someone’s asshole not a bad thing?”

    Do you feel that way about the mouth? If so I feel sorry for whatever sucker marries you.
    George Takai (Sulu from the original Star Trek) is gay and claims to never have had anal sex.

  • ChrisG

    You must have had a tough time on the school yard playground….

    You seem to have some kind of PTSD where your mind is still stuck there.

    What’s sad it that you probably think you are clever with these pathetic little comebacks…

    You never answered my questions.  Why didn’t you serve chickenhawk?

    And what on EARTH makes you think a loser like you should be criticizing this fine man?

  • Anonymous

    FoxNation makes me feel the need to cleanse after reading some of the “enlightened POVs” out there.  They truly represent what ails America. 

    And, usually, their suggested means to resolve something involves arming themselves.  And it’s not knowledge/facts they are interested in arming themselves with. 

    But, we see their ilk on this site, too. Making fools out of themselves.  Using the “Like” button not for reasoned commentary, but for the “your mom!”-level of commentary. 

    And they think they get to own a moniker like Real American(TM) or Patriot(TM)?! I don’t think so. Heck, Reagan would be appalled at their commentary and rhetoric!

  • ChrisG

    It’s “Miss” to you jackass and “teatard” may not be politically correct, but oh well, I’ve stored up some good karma.

  • ChrisG

    Don’t forget pity!

    I wouldn’t be a good, bleeding heart liberal if I didn’t have pity for such a pathetic little creature as you!

  • ChrisG

    there are many young gay people working up the courage to come out to their parents who would strongly disagree. 

    don’t like it, don’t watch it.  No need to broadcast your opinion to the world (of mediaite at least).

  • Broadhorizons

    Eric Cantor, let the boy have his moment okay? You’re in the media enough already.

  • Anonymous

    and get a disease?

    i have standards. you do not pass muster. you will never past muster as am I not into those who are RWers, who are soulless and who lack as much class as you. 

    i’m sure you could put a posting up on craigslist, however, to get your BJ attended to.

    ((I may, however, entertain an offer if it came from Leo or Cesc.  You, however, won’t know what I am talking about.))

  • News Of The World

    There you go, you idiot troll.  Since your tiny brain couldn’t figure out the missing word, I edited my post for you.  Dimwit.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jj-Wisniewski/100002654075475 Jj Wisniewski

    Watching this video, it appears that the father is unimpressed or knew all along that his son was gay. As a father of 4, If my son told me that he was gay, I think my first reaction would be to freeze up and think that I had just lost my son. As this soldier was growing up there must have been signs at least curiousity about his behavior. Obviously, if he was gay, he must not have shown any interest in girls, as a father, I would think that would be at least curious given the fact that teenage boys at that age will be chasing everything that wears a skirt. I just don’t see how this kid having been engaged in family life at home everyday, how the family saw no signs or were not a bit curious about him, unless, it was one of those dysunctional families where the parents are totally disengaged with the kids and visa versa.  

  • Anonymous

    That wasn’t “amazing” at all. You can’t have an amazing video where you can’t even hear half of what one person in the conversation is saying. Are you telling me with all the friends he has in the army he couldn’t find one with decent skills in making a video? When you have a crappy microphone picking up a cellphone from half way across the room… you can’t hear anything.

    If you’re gonna make a video as personally huge as this and show it to the world, at least make some effort into making technically competent at a basic level.  But  this is just yet another episode in our Marxist brain-rotted, brain-dead, moribund culture where somebody makes something with the least effort possible just because they know they’re going to be praised for the concept of it. Even if we couldn’t hear anything he said at all, and the video was pitch black, he would probably still get the same praise just for the title “Coming out to my dad”.

    Just like all those piss-poor Hollywood anti-war movies, and all the leaden dramas they make about “serious social topics” with zero memorable characterisation and actors phoning it in. Because they know all the schmuck critics will fawn over the supposed “bravery” of tackling whatever “controversial” subject matter.

    It’s one yawn after another these days. Now there’s something to be truly outraged about.

  • Boohiss031

    you do realize that sex with a woman “can cause bleeding, HIV, and in some cases can cause difficulties when attempting to use the bathroom”…..right? Then, there’s the barren women… is it “unhealthy” for them to have sex since they can’t reproduce?

  • ChrisG

    Because of the stigma attached with being gay it is very typical for a gay teen to go thru the motions and pretend to be straight.  Even more so in a conservatively religious family.

    Many gay people end up even marrying and having kids.  Gasp!  Shocking isn’t it?

    Then when they can no longer live a lie, hearbreak ensues for all.

    Didn’t you see Brokeback Mtn?

    Or Michelle Bachmann’s husband???

    That’s why it is such a good thing that our society is evolving and becoming more tolerant – so that such charades are less likely.

    Why would you think you ‘lost your son’?

  • Hugo Daun

    Keep making comments like that and you’ll soon be a contender for Utah-Michelle’s title of “Biggest Fucking Dummy Posting at MediaITE”.

    I have faith in you!

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t that what the comment section is for? Or should he not comment because you may not agree with him?

  • Hugo Daun

    Why do all the libbies assume their intellectual?

    Perhaps because they know when it is proper to use the contraction “they’re”, unlike you…dummy.

  • Anonymous

    Many parents are just in denial. 

  • ChrisG

    True! 

    Even some wives!  Not mentioning any names (certain congresswoman from MN :)

  • Jason

    I disagree with carlton, but how are you any better? You turned your defense of the gay soldier into an oppurtunity to attack someone with a gay joke. LOL

  • Jason

    I disagree with carlton, but how are you any better? You turned your defense of the gay soldier into an oppurtunity to attack someone with a gay joke. LOL

  • Jp7077

    It’s not a matter of me liking it or not……people need to be true to themselves….it’s thier business.not mine….but why broadcast to the world what should have been a private conversation between father and son?………and I wonder if this guy thought about how his dad would feel about having the conversation on youtube n the net….

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000561665430 Out Man

    I USE ALL CAPS, AND ITS NOT SCREAMING AT YOU OR ANYONE.  I HAVE A NICE RETIREMENT FROM THE MARINES AND I AM GAY.  IT MUST BE 50K WITHOUT PAYING TAXES WITH FREE MEDICAL, FREE RX MEDS AND ALL PROCEDURES TAKEN CARE OF.   IMAGINE WHAT MY RETIREMENT WOULD BE WORTH IF I HAD TO PAY FOR HEALTHCARE, TAXES AND MEDS.  I LOVED THE MILITARY, UNFORTUNATELY THEY HAD THE ANTI GAY THANG GOIN’ ON.  

  • Jason

    When did you guys become a bunch of jingoistic flag waving botards?

    Can that shit. You only “support the military” because of who the president is.

    Also,  to my fellow Conservatives, can the homophobic shit. The guy served his country and should be respected no matter how you feel about his sexuality.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, so your bigotry is the “good” kind. I see.

  • Redleaf

    Yeah, it’s a crazy right wing website. Good thing it’s not sponsored by a news organization.
    Oh, wait…

  • ChrisG

    I supported the military during Bush’s administration as I do under Obama’s.

    I did NOT support the decision to go into Iraq but certainly wouldn’t hold it against the service members. 

    In fact part of my opposition was that their service was being squandered in such a way and lives unneccessarily lost.

    I can support the military while being against jinoistic foreign policy.

    Try rising above the Fox News stereotypes of liberals.

  • Anonymous

    @carltonwest – Figures that a TROLL would be the first to respond. Someone is disgusting, but it’s not this brave young soldier!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000561665430 Out Man

    I LOVED THE FATHERS RESPONSE OF TRUE AND LASTING LOVE FOR HIS SON AND THE LOVE OF THE SON FOR HIS FAMILY WHILE SERVING OVERSEAS AND THE FACT THAT NO ONE IN HIS UNIT IS GIVING THE SOLDIER ANY GRIEF.  LOVED THE VIDEO, BROUGHT A LUMP TO MY THROAT AND A TINY TEAR OF CARING TO MY EYE.  AS A GAY MARINE I AM WITH YOU MY BROTHER IN SEMPER FI SPIRIT AND TOTAL ESPRIT DE CORPS.  SOLDIER ON:-)

  • Anonymous

    The troll has left the building.

  • Victor Noir

    Being called an idiot by somebody who has posted more than 1800 times on glennbeck.com is like, it’s like, well, it’s like being called an idiot by somebody who has posted more than 1800 times on glennbeck.com.  I can’t think of any better indicator of idiocy.  Wait, I got it:  it’s like being called a retard by Corky.

  • Anonymous

    It would seem you just confirmed your own idiocy.

  • Victor Noir

    I’m certainly flattered by all this attention and the effort you’ve put into analyzing my post. It’s not complicated:  homophobes hate being called gay.  If  treating this asshole the way he treats other people in order to illustrate for him how it sounds makes me a bottom feeder who posts in bad taste and looks petty and small, so be it.  I will note that he apparently removed the post in the meantime. 

  • Victor Noir

    I’m certainly flattered by all this attention and the effort you’ve put into analyzing my post. It’s not complicated:  homophobes hate being called gay.  If  treating this asshole the way he treats other people in order to illustrate for him how it sounds makes me a bottom feeder who posts in bad taste and looks petty and small, so be it.  I will note that he apparently removed the post in the meantime. 

  • News Of The World

    Not surprisingly, you missed the point of the video.  Or did you even watch it?  Whether or not his parents thought they knew or not isn’t the point.  The point is, he didn’t know if they did, so he called his Dad to tell him.  On the day DADT became official.  But, you’re too busy being ignorant to notice.

  • Anonymous

    VileLeaf – thank you for validating ChrisG’s assertion that it is a crazy right wing website. 

    And, holy moly, ANOTHER RW poster that has two usernames. 

    Disqus profile says HockeFan, yet you post here as Redleaf.  WTF?

  • Glutton

     Gotta love how cons always bash gays and tell people that homosexuality is immoral, yet they’ll be the first ones to tell other dudes to blow them. 

  • Glutton

     I think you deserve sympathy for being a complete moron, but I’m not as judgmental as most folks. 

  • Glutton

     I guess after watching your mom get rear ended by so many guys in the past, you just had to try it on someone else’s mom.  Would’ve been a little bit more respectable if you did it to a living person, but I doubt if any living person would ever let you get with them.

  • Anonymous

    I’m straight, I’d shower with him. 

  • Grebrook

    You are aware of the fact that the majority of heterosexual couples engage in anal sex these days.  Right?

  • Anonymous

    Actually it took me exactly three seconds to figure you out. There is noting unique or interesting in being an insulting boor.

  • Animmigrant

    I am an immigrant from a third world country with values a lot more conservative and close-minded than anywhere in the US. And I think that today, the US has truly underlined its credentials as the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave…. FREE because it now lets everyone (even those in the military) be free to openly be who they are…. and BRAVE because no true brave soldier who faces death every day would ever give a rat’s ass about what his fellow-soldier’s sexual orientation is. Kudos to the US.

    And kudos to this kid and his father.

  • Anonymous

    Just calling it like it is, and in this case the shoe fits you perfectly.

  • Stoogedude

    This is a truly terrific post and it makes me proud to be an American. What makes me embarrassed is to have acknowledge some of the homophobic commenters on this site are American as well.

    I’m fine if homosexuality makes you uncomfortable. But to say some of the things that Carlton West, Paolina, Redleaf and others have said truly made my jaw drop. So disgusting. What shameless, heartless people.

    The conservatives on here that found this is as cool as I did (who may not necessarily support gay marriage) just reaffirms my belief that there are a lot of conservatives in this country who are truly good people, regardless of ideology. Thank you for sticking up for this brave soldier (although any sane person would condemn the hearless rhetoric from some on this page).

  • BooBoo Bear

    Where in the hell do you get your figures? Straights have had more sex partners than gays for as long as time has been…gays have had to be discreet and usually only have a hand full of partners. Go to your neighborhood bar and you’ll notice how many straights take home a new “girl” on a few nights. Then go to another bar another night to see some more take a few other girls home for a few nights. Then try and find a “gay” bar where you live…Which I doubt you have there probably isn’t one. Small towns are where most gays live and they usually will stay with the same partner for a long long time. I wish you would have seen the first marriage that took place in San Francisco several years ago. The couple had been together for 52 years. Just how many years have you and your “partner” been together?

    And before you bring out the “Pedophile” card most are straights. And more STRAIGHTS have been abused than Gays. Stop reading Bachmann’s website.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s compare numbers, since you opened the door Victor;

    My record – Doodaddio 3848 posts / 4347 likes (85%)

    Your record – Victor Noir 39 posts / 111 likes (35%)

    Since you like numbers so much what does this indicate?

    A) You are a newbie, and you are not a particularly a good or well liked newbie.

    B) A lot more people agree with me than with you on a consistent basis.

    C) All of the above.

    You are not very good at this. Perhaps you should try word search.

  • Victor Noir

    “As a father of 4, If my son told me that he was gay, I think my first
    reaction would be to freeze up and think that I had just lost my son.”

    This is absolutely the most depressing thing on this thread full of depressing things.  And I love how you go on to say this guy’s family (in which the father affirms his love for his son) must be dysfunctional.  And your family, in which your reaction to your son coming out to you would be to panic and try to pretend he doesn’t ‘t exist, is functional, right?  Oy vey.

  • Silicondoc

    Said the devil in name.
    You’re all low lifes for watching what the guy was saying to his dad.

  • Silicondoc

    Bad taste is posting the video to begin with. The voyeur generation knows no bounds.

  • Silicondoc

    ChrisG – So you aren’t aware political pressure caused the ” american (sic) psychiatric (sic) association” to change it’s official position ?
    Weak son, very weak.
     

  • Silicondoc

    Liberals aren’t just smart asses by default, they are hypocrites by default also.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JUT2TATEV3OHGQ7HZRYN472XVM Felix

    Very touching. I’m glad he’s “free” and can — and willing — to serve. But, I’ll betcha a dollar to a donut that the father KNEW all along.

  • Silicondoc

    If barky showing his cracked open bum in full on zoom for 2 hours helped the liberal cause, they would promote it.
    The libs get enemas on TV – this is what we’re dealing with.

  • Silicondoc

    I would post it on the internet, and then show the world my son’s second Mr. Mom.

  • Silicondoc

    So now suddenly, a national policy changed by the current libtard potus, makes any other answer unworthy ?
     Talk about being a loser without a clue.

  • Silicondoc

    So now suddenly, a national policy changed by the current libtard potus, makes any other answer unworthy ?
     Talk about being a loser without a clue.

  • http://twitter.com/alanocu Alan

    Why is that disgusting? 

  • Silicondoc

    Boy are you blind son. So according to what you demand TruDat comply with, any criticism you made of GWB is wrong as well.
     Stick that between your ears, you idiot.

  • Silicondoc

    B) YOU CAN’T DO THE MATH DUMBASS

    Victor has approximately 3X likes per post, you barely make over 1 like per post.

    So, more people like and “agree” with Victor than you. Quality not quantity you piece of shit flunky.

  • Silicondoc

    When you’re wrong so god damned often, you have to constantly point out that really, really, you are the smartest one in the room to enhance the chances that someone will buy your bullshit, and also to cover up the immense embarrassment.

  • Anonymous

    Nice language, doc. The point is that he has a long way to go to come close to likeable much less believable. For that matter, trolls of a feather stick together so you two will have a long and happy life together.

    His posts and yours have neither quality nor quantity. But you both seem to enjoy crude and graceless insults as long as you are not on the receiving end.

  • Silicondoc

    No, you cheer when some faggot bares his heart to daddy, then you cry along…
    After wiping the tears from your sick voyeuristic chinless face and neck, and going amnesic on all your military hate screeds at Bush and the troops then, you loft your fantasy of a fag committing a violent crime on a fellow poster while deriding human obesity.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1431811538 Josh Kim

    Silicondc, aren’t you a lowlife for watching as well? Or did you just come to comment and spew your hatred?

    I thought you called me the hateful one for being apparently misogynistic. I guess you didn’t know I defended Gretchen from Fox & Friends.

    Please seek psychiatric help.

  • Silicondoc

    They just got over their Bush and military hate since barky launched a “kinetic action” as unilateral dictator on the side of the Al Qaeda Islamic takeover enemy.

    LMAO – Where’s the WMD was funny, but this fucking Obama crew doesn’t know whose side they are fighting on. Wrong team dumbasses ! No, no run the other way !
    ROFLMAO

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JUT2TATEV3OHGQ7HZRYN472XVM Felix

    Don’t waste your time on “the homophobic commenters on this site”, or any other site for that matter. You can’t rid the world of it any more than being able to stomp out racism, hate, etc. Let their “Free Speech” ring. I believe racists and homophobes are much less harmful when we know who they are, versus what they pretend to be.

  • Silicondoc

    Good for you, I wouldn’t have risked another piece of shit liberal gasbag like ChrisG coming out.
    Wise choice.

  • Silicondoc

    Good for you, I wouldn’t have risked another piece of shit liberal gasbag like ChrisG coming out.
    Wise choice.

  • Stoogedude

    You are right, but it still irks me to see comments like that. It’s 2011 and while I don’t expect everyone to agree with me on gay rights, I would at least like to think such small mindedness and hate on that level didn’t exist with regards to homosexuality. They sit behind their computers in anonymity and are probably as depressed and self loathing as could be possible. I do hope they overcome their narrow minded ways and realize that gay people are just as deserving of respect as anyone else. Still, you are right and my responding to them does embolden them. But dammit, I still get irked enough to feel like I have to say something. Human nature.

  • Silicondoc

    Oh cut the shit you lying excuse artist.

    You don’t speak for what “we” know as if your bullshit is the mindset of the liberal collective.

    You’re just a fucking liar who pretends to cling to the god damned center as tightly as you can while BASHING everything else to the right. A fucking troll.

  • Silicondoc

    I think ChrisG should prove his solidarity with gay males by getting hammered up his rear. If he doesn’t have a willing boyfriend he can use a big black dildo, then he can post the video and show you guys how terrible you really are.

  • Silicondoc

    And why you faggot living gay supporters don’t immediately drop to your knees is a bigger mystery.

  • Silicondoc

    LMAO – oh that point just destroyed them. All their bullshit just hit the fan.

  • Silicondoc

    Hey if you have to “cleanse” you can do the lib gay enema thing with Tyra on your own youtube, you know, show some solidarity !

  • Silicondoc

    Most of you lib pieces of shit don’t have a Father, so STFU about it.
    No Father, keep your traps shut.
    Slick Willie and Obozo, two losers without a daddy – and certainly the next one you crybaby victims select illegally will also fit that profile.

  • Silicondoc

    I didn’t watch it. I don’t need another crybaby pussy session from you disgusting liberal voyeurs.

  • Silicondoc

    Since that is 100% likely the case, the liberals have to pretend it’s all a dirty little secret, and they are under insane mental pressures with their dark hidden life.
     This way, they are a fucking victimized piece of crybaby shit.
     Let’s face it, if Daddy didn’t know, THAT FAMILY WAS FUCKING DYSFUNCTIONAL, and still is even if for the few seconds Daddy is confronted he said he loves boy wonder anyway.
     Yes, if Daddy did not know, THAT FAMILY WAS MASSIVELY DYSFUNCTIONAL.

  • Silicondoc

    Well Redleaf we heard how all the Catholic priests went to seminary so they could gt it on later with the altar boys, so it stands to reason the gays want to go into the services so they can shower and hang with their partners of choice.
     It’s a fag date extravaganza now.
     I guess too many quit when barky took over and didn’t keep a single one of his war drawdown promises – so barky has to call in the fags to cover the bleeding ranks.
     Nice that his plan is working so well since all the antiwar left liberal pieces of shit here suddenly love gayness of soldiers, and can’t see what is really going on.
     Too many bailing, so barky had to recruit the fags.

  • Pit Boss

    LOL! Dude you are clueless. Just about every point goes right over your head. 

  • Steve

    awwww “i love you daddy!”

  • Limpbaals

    I think it has more to do with using someone’s foul opinion of something against them than validating that opinion in any fashion.

    People who are usually opposed to homosexuality tend to have homosexual tendencies, so pointing out their own self loathing is more in the fashion of turning their words on them than ripping on a group of people. Conservatives are much more experienced at this type of cynical behavior.

  • Anonymous

    I believe his Dad said in the clip that he suspected.

  • Anonymous

    You realize that  all the dumb posts referring to the tea party regarding gays is stupid.

    The tea party does not give a damn if you’re gay, straight or have any other sexual peccadillo.

    So, who is dumb here guys?

    I could give a damn if this soldier is gay or straight.  I don’t quite understand how sharing a heart to heart with Dad, with however many of your “closest” friends makes him special.  Makes him stupid really.

    Dad was understanding – I’m sure Mom and Dad have known forever and they are fine with it as are 90% of the public, but why you’d place yourself in harms way by announcing to the world is beyond me.  Do all the straights have to wear a name tag to tell the world they are?  I agreed with “Don’t ask don’t tell” – but not in the army sense of hiding anything but in that your sexual preference is nobody’s business but you and your partner’s.  

  • Anonymous

    You have no freaking idea what you are talking about. You’re repeating baseless and ignorant stereotypes.  Anal sex doesn’t CAUSE HIV. Time to grow up and learn something.

  • Anonymous

    you are attempting to sound so reasonable while trashing a person you know nothing about.  You’re so understanding of gays so you want to be understanding about Bachmann’s husband?  Are you for real?
    You are ridiculing and calling out someone for being gay as if it was the worst thing in the world and then have the nerve to say “peep are becoming more tolerant” – where the hell is your tolerance for allowing people to be whatever the hell they want to be without you pointing and ridiculing because “he looks gay” to you.

    Yes, a fine example of a first class hypocrite.  So kind and understanding but damn that guy must be gay so lets go get him!

    You’re sick

  • cdnhawk

    Wow……you are one low class idiot

  • Anonymous

    What are you suggesting? That parents don’t need to know if their children are gay?

    What nonsense.

  • Anonymous

    If you are not screaming why are you screaming?  Take off the caps, and pretend you’re a human.  
    Don’t care if you’re gay – but do care that you yell.

  • Anonymous

    broadcast it because for decades gays have felt compelled to hide who they really were even from their families because of false notions and religious dogma. Lots of people have been seriously hurt because of it.
    By broadcasting his video he encourages other gays and their families.

  • Anonymous

    What enema is responsible for your comments. It was very effective.

  • Anonymous

    post deleted.

  • Anonymous

    Well aren’t you the compassionate one. You belittle yourself with comments like that.

  • Anonymous

    Well aren’t you the compassionate one. You belittle yourself with comments like that.

  • Anonymous

    I guess you’re comfortable parading your ignorance when you can do it anonymously.

  • Anonymous

    Um….your math is just a tad off…..{as in ridiculously off}

  • Anonymous

    This is really rude……and pretty funny. Let me play.

    I think you have Texan confused with his mother.

  • Anonymous

    Court martialed for what? What did he do that was a disgrace? You’ll notice how many gays were serving honorably in the military in the next few weeks as they come out.

  • Anonymous

    right now your words fit a stereotype more than this young solider does. Typical ignorant homophobe who bases his opinions on irrational fears rather than facts.

  • cdnhawk

    The best way to deal with idiots like TruDat is to ignore them.

  • Anonymous

    At an after hours restaurant in Maine two drunk macho men followed some gay men into the parking lot to “kick their asses”  Turned out one of gay men was a black belt and proceeded to clean their clocks without breaking a sweat. When the police showed up the tuff guys wanted to press charges but the after talking to restaurant customers the police told them they got what they deserved.

    I wonder what lies they told their friends about that.

  • Anonymous

    Is that how you justify your words and the words of your ignorant brethren. By pointing out someone else did it decades ago. Maybe if you were around then you ought to know better now. I think avoidswork just nailed what conscience you have to the wall.

    maybe you can man up and admit you’re wrong in this case, just as those who spit on Vietnam bets were wrong.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t hate republicans. I hate ignorance on parade. Put down the baton.

  • lekka

    straight vanilla missionary-style penis-in-vagina sex can also cause bleeding, spread HIV & other sexually transmitted diseases, and can often cause other problems which may lead to difficulties when using the bathroom, such as yeast infections, or urinary tract infections.

    Also, new polls show that about 40% of straight people engage in anal sex. is anal sex ok if straight people do it?

    the rest of your post is completely ridiculous and has no basis in scientific fact whatsoever, so i’m not even going to address it.

  • Anonymous

    @seek456:disqus
    Um, yeah a whole lot of the Tea Party , as in most evangelical Christians, do care if you’re gay or straight. It’s not true that 90% of the public are fine with it. Most people have no need or desire to advertise their sexual orientation, They just don’t want to have to hide it when they’re out in public together just as hetero couples don’t have to. 

  • Anonymous

    That’s so sad for both of them. I hope they find some way to reconcile before it’s to late.

  • Victor Noir

    It also indicates:

    D) I am not a shut-in who spends every waking hour I’m not fapping to Sarah Palin speeches contributing thousands of inane comments to silly forums.

    E) Some people are just here to contribute their two bits without worrying about how many “likes” they get.  If I wanted to collect “likes,” I would do what you do:  repeat boilerplate insults about liberals I stole from someone more creative than myself and wait for all the other racist homophobe chuckleheads to “like” my post.  You guys flock to each others’ posts like flies on sherbet.   I mean, we all want to be liked, but I don’t rely on people I don’t know who use pseudonyms to bolster my self-image.  I am willing to concede that you have more friends on this site than I do. 

    F)  You are not taking advantage of the math classes at the Learning Annex.  I mean, I am terrible at math, but even I can tell there’s something wrong with your calculations.

    G)  You still have over 1800 posts at glennbeck.com.  1800!  Calculate how much time you must have spent there. Months.   It makes me dizzy..

  • Anonymous

    I will bet $1000, right now, that every single one of the people bashing this guy have also posted at least one comment elsewhere on the Internet about “supporting the troops” at some point since the war this man is fighting started.

    Good to know that people sitting at their computers making judgments are better, wiser, more moral people than a man who picks up a gun and decides to serve his country, no matter what. After all, he’s nothing but a dirty queer, right?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know about you all, but I, for one, would totally hit that.

    Just sayin.

  • Anonymous

    You can’t get rid of your thoughts by attempting to project them onto others.  They belong to you …. YOU are the source.  The sooner you wake up to that simple fact the less conflicted you’ll be.

  • Racer1488

     Brought a tear to my eye. As a Christian I have no problem with gays. Sometimes in Bible study this topic would come up. My response was always do you love your children? Of course the answer was always yes. So if your kid told you he/she was gay would you then hate him? Some people don’t think of that question.

     My boy is serving in the Army and we’re very close. And if he ever had to have that great conversation that these two had with me, my response would be like hid Daddy. The only thing I hope doesn’t happen is the media making a sad story every night. And I guess that Project Runway can be watched on in the services……LOL. With the lisp and all. God bless this soldier.

  • Glutton

    I have to agree.  There really didn’t appear to be any shock in his dad’s tone when he said that he was gay.  Even most tolerant parents would have some change in voice tone if they didn’t expect that.  

  • Glutton

    No one said anything about Bachmann you moron.  There are lots of congresswomen from Minnesota.  Also, Bachmann is technically from Iowa.  She grew up in the same town as John Wayne (Gasey) remember?

  • Glutton

    So bashing the Tea Baggers is bashing Americans and Southerners (you use those terms as if they’re completely different)?

  • Glutton

    LOL @ Teatard!

  • Glutton

     How does someone with a name like “Tru Dat” call anyone a simple minded putz?  That’s like something they would say in a cheesy rap track from the early 1990s. 

  • Bob

    your Republican base voter, folks.

  • TruDat

    Calm down muscle head.

  • TruDat

    I’m sure you’ve owned quite a few cheesy rap tracks.

  • TruDat

    I’m sure you’ve owned quite a few cheesy rap tracks.

  • Anonymous

    trash, you’re absolute trash

  • ExPat ExLawyer

    I’m pro gays in the military and in favor of the repeal.  However, this video was not worthy of posting.  It was nothing more than stilted and boring navel gazing.

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s safe to say that if the kid has reached his 20s, his parents probably did suspect at least a little bit.

    There’s only so long one can keep something as big as that a secret before it becomes obvious that there’s something you’re not saying.

    Think about the reality of the son’s experience:  the son probably had to invent stories about why he didn’t have any girlfriends (or he had to pretend that he had one)….or had to be deliberately vague about where he was going or who he was hanging out with.

    It’s not unusual for teens and young adults not to tell their parents everything…but at some point it’s a hard secret to keep.

    I’m thankful that a) if the parents DID suspect, they gave him space and time to come to terms with it and B) they listened to him and loved him anyway.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t really care for speculating about someone’s sexuality.  I think it’s mean-spirited and is actually harmful to people who are not yet out.

    That said, I don’t have much sympathy when people who say really anti-gay things later come out.

  • Anonymous

    “I’m pro” winning the battle, or war!  Whether it was/is Women or Homosexuals, a conflict of this nature was/is best left in the civilian world, NOT, the Military.  If Soldiers or Sailors die because of a “politically correct,” (or incorrect) decision, made by unexperienced Lawmakers, is that a good, or, bad thing?  

    The purpose of the Military is to guarantee that civilian America can have petty debates like flag burning, prayer in school, profanity in public and American Indian’s taking Peyote, etc..  However, any distraction that weakens, or potentially weakens the effectiveness of America’s Military Might, must be viewed with a wary eye:  Does the behavior or action in question, “advance or detract” the effectiveness of the military apparatus?

    The Purveyor of Rhetoric

  • Anonymous

    To hear the fear in his voice that he’d be rejected by his parents and to watch him on this video actually brought tears to my eyes.  I’m proud of his parents for taking it so well and telling him they would always love him.  It was the right thing to do.

  • TruDat

    How sweet.  Hug your Chaz Bono doll and go sleepy now.

  • TruDat

    How sweet, libby.  Now go destroy someone else’s property so we know you really care.

  • Anonymous

    The only thing you have correct is the reference to my mathematical error. Everything else you have written has been completely and utterly inaccurate.

  • Anonymous

    Well, I’m not a math person, and not afraid to own it.

  • ceeza

    SEEK456

    I love how you try to impose some fake moral superiority on these threads daily… Get off your soap box you fraud..  Are you going to just skip over the truly HATEFUL  comments by your bagger brethrens like you always do?? You are so full of shit… You’re the worst.. The worst part is your’e the first to call someone a hypocrite when you’re actually the biggest offender of all… Calling peoplel out sheeesh… you see what your hobbit buddies are saying on this thread?  you’re such a joke..

  • Anonymous

    Well, I’m not a math person, and not afraid to own it. However, I did manage to reply to your insulting post without calling you any vulgar names. You are a good example of an out of control liberal who can’t have a discussion without butting in somewhere and injecting profanity.

  • joe

    what? gays in the military? when did this happen?
    next thing they will say there are gay clergy?

    we all know that most GOP leaders practice illicit and perverse sexual ways—gay, pedophillia and sex for sale–
    but i would never believe that gays are in the military–

    SINCE THE MILITARY AND THE CHURCH HAVE ONLY BEEN THE #1 HAVEN FOR HOMOSEXUAL SINCE FOREVER?????
    come on people…
    the gop has more closet homosexuals than carter has liver pills..
    the church, the conservative movement and the military is to gays as fish is to water….

    but hey–i am just speaking the obvious huh?

  • Anonymous

    Ladies and Gentlemen I thought I had seen it all. But that fantasy based bull shit that I just read from Paolina Garcia is officially the DUMBEST POST IN THE HISTORY OF THE INTERNET.  

    Please Paolina…..do the world a favor and drink a gallon of bleach. If that doesn’t work please find the nearest tall building or bridge. Walk to the edge. Now help the world out and jump quietly. 

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think they had a discussion about what happens in they soldier’s bedroom. I watched the video, and I sure didn’t hear any mention of gay sex, so why are you the one bringing it up?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, and I was one of the vets they spit on and called baby-killer. They were lousy scum then and they still are. Notice not one ever apologized to us for what they did, in fact we still get pilloried for doing our duty and coming home alive. Like pigs at a trough they suck up all the freedom and rights they can, while  insulting and cursing those of us who had the courage and moral responsibility to answer the call to duty when their friends were running off to Canada and elsewhere.

    Since Desert Storm they have changed their public tune to parrot the patriotic citizens, but in private they still hate and look upon vets with disrespect.

    It’s nothing to me anymore, but I thought since we are at this point you’d like to hear my perspective.

    There is a whole new generation of vets for them to attack now. I know what they face isn’t much different from what we did. Decent people will at least thank you for serving now, where before the best you could expect is to be ignored. For the new vets facing this I feel sadness, but I hope they can understand that all of us old vets thank them for picking up and carrying on.

  • Anonymous

    doodadio,
    You are correct, they were lousy scum. Thank you for your service to our country at such a difficult time.

  • peace

    i agree:) he is serving his country:) nothing wrong witn him even he is GAY MAN:) cause he is good man good soldier:) we need to respect everyone,specialy U ~Ardiva…

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for acknowledging. Thanks for carrying on.

    Semper Fi, Marine!

  • Tshep60

    Really?! You should check out this same story posted on liveleak.com. The comments are disgusting and truly ignorant that are posted mostly by right-wingers. It’s a real circle-jerk, a hate fest they got going on.

  • Eiryn

    Just for the record, gay men don’t like all other men just like straight men don’t like all women. It’s a bit silly to assume that a guy is going to find you attractive enough to look at simply because he’s gay. I’m a bisexual guy and I only find a relatively small percentage of men attractive. I also tend to NOT look at other guys in the showers. I wouldn’t really want them checking me out (hot or not), so why would I invade their privacy?

    Also, I have to tell you, in response to one of you’re later comments, I’m damn good with a gun. I’m not military simply because I’m attending college at the moment and decided that my path was enforcing the law in courts rather than on a battle field. 

    As I said to Texan earlier, just because you’ve met or heard about one gay person, doesn’t mean you know all of them. Saying that the soldier is cowardly just because he’s gay is misinformed. It’s like me saying you’re a horrible person because I disagree with you about gay people. I don’t know you, you could be a perfectly nice person who simply was misinformed about just what it means to be gay. It’s hard to know about something you’re not a part of, especially when so many factors (like mistranslated Bibles [did you know the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is actually about in-hospitality?]) can contribute to it. 

    One day, sir, I hope you take the time to really get to know someone gay. It will help you understand where we are coming from. 

  • Eiryn

    To the Soldier,

    Thank you for your courage and your service. I wish you all the best and hope that you return home safely soon. 

  • Eiryn

    I’m sorry you’ve had this experience, deeply sorry. Please don’t judge all liberals and gay activists by this standard though. I’m both and I don’t think of middle Americans and southerners as being stupid, uneducated, or ignorant bigots. That has nothing to do with geographical location, or anything else except those characteristics. 

    I couldn’t really hear the father’s accent, but shall I assume it was southernish? Either way, I am, again, sorry that you feel this way. Please, prove the people you have heard this from wrong. 

  • Eiryn

    Hi Texan,

    My name is Eiryn. I’m a bisexual man and, as such, feel like I can speak a bit to this. 

    I’m not so sure “preferential” is what I’m looking for. I don’t see what’s preferential about wanting to marry who I want to marry and to not be excluded from a job I love simply because of my sexual orientation. I also don’t know what’s wrong with my not wanting to be a victim of a hate crime. 

    Would you want to be forbidden any of those things? Probably not. 

    I’m not going to call you a bigot, a homophobe, or a right-winged idiot like I’ve seen other people do in comments here already. I don’t think that solves anything, and I don’t know anything about you so I can’t make that judgement. In fact, you didn’t really say anything that meant anything other than misinformation, which is not a crime, and not a bad thing. It just means someone needs to understand and be kind enough to share that information with you. 

    Please just remember not to stereotype me anymore than I just stereotyped you. You don’t know me, I don’t know you. What we should go on is that we are both human beings and we deserve respect and the same rights. All I want is to marry my boyfriend and be able to serve my country, whether it  be in the military, or through social work at home. 

    I’m sure you want the same, though substitute your own words in for whoever you want to marry and what you want to do to serve your country. 

    Thank you for at least taking the time to watch this video, it gives me hope that our country is moving in the right direction. 

    ~Eiryn~

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