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Bill O’Reilly Hammers ‘Vicious Far-Left Website’ Media Matters After Orbitz Declines Fox Boycott

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Bill O’Reilly began his program today with a rather celebratory Talking Points Memo. The occasion was a combative one, a twofold victory that once again demonstrated his and Fox News’ place in the media world: Orbitz’s rebuke of Media Matters for trying to get them not to advertise on the network, and O’Reilly’s personal victory as America’s most trusted journalist (after “Don’t Know” and “Nobody”).

O’Reilly is not one to very often take the time to attack Media Matters for their work in usually monitoring the network, though he seemed to have found their latest attempt to get Orbitz to boycott Fox News particularly offensive. Calling it a “vicious far-left website,” he commended the “patriots” at Orbitz and gave them a bit of a free advertisement, and found only one viable explanation for the escalation in outrage: “the presidential election of 2012.” Since Fox News’ ratings during the 2008 election were so high, and because the network was “fair” to both sides, O’Reilly argues the left is infuriated at them. “If you do not openly support president obama, you are the enemy.” Furthermore, he highlighted a specific instant of media bias he though Media Matters should have covered, were they committed to bipartisan work: NBC News’ Andrea Mitchell classifying Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu talking to President Obama “like a schoolboy.” Mitchell, O’Reilly noted, is “a reporter for nbc news, not a commentator. so why the slant?” In related news, O’Reilly also highlighted Fox News’ dominance on trust polls, and his own personal victory as America’s most trusted news personality, after CNN’s Anderson Cooper.

For a second opinion on the matter, O’Reilly brought on Brit Hume, who for the most part agreed with his assessment of Media Matters. “I think Media Matters for America is a political organization,” he noted, “it’s become so obvious that its only purpose in life is not to criticize journalism in any sense but to attack Fox News.” The two differed on the relevance of the organization, though– Hume argued that no one “takes Media Matters seriously,” to which O’Reilly offered that, given George Soros‘ visits to the White House, it seems the President does. On the one issue they could agree wholeheartedly? “None of this would be happening, Bill,” said Hume, “if we weren’t so successful.”

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  • The Lantern of Truth

    Good for you Bill , MM is a repulsive foul nest of evil blooters .

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Bill has Factor gear .

    Is there MM gear ?

    I think not .

  • The Lantern of Truth

    What happens to MM when George Soros hands in his lunch pail ?

    When Soros checks out ?

    When the roll is called up yonder …or down below …for Georgie boy ?

  • Sam M.

    BillO”audience consist of the learning challenged at those at are over 110 years of age. No one but the tea-bagger cares what this moron has to say. He’s a joke and like most bagger does not realize it. Too stupid.

  • ChrisNH

    Hahahahaha…Media MoFos only need to prove Fox News wrong to claim victory…and they can’t. Tee Hee!

  • puck30

    Sam M. said:
    BillO”audience consist of the learning challenged at those at are over 110 years of age. No one but the tea-bagger cares what this moron has to say. He’s a joke and like most bagger does not realize it. Too stupid.

    And no one cares what ‘The Goof’ has to say, but he loves to sat teabagger a lot. I think it’s a code word myself.

  • puck30

    say

  • ProObamaAgenda

    O’Rielly is a loon…..people trusting him is a delusion……HEY wingnuts…..Remember HERMAN CAIN ????….he used to be a candidate for president……HE’s DONE…..It’s OVA ALREADY………Heres a tidbit of Info about Cain the FOX FORGOT TO TELL YOU…..KINDA UNUSUAL CONSIDERING BILL-O THE CLOWN JUST SAID TONIGHT THAT FOX IS THE MOST TRUSTED NAME IN NEWS……OK HERE WE GO ::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Cain clearly believes that his pro-business message is what GOP voters want to hear. So much so, in fact, that on Saturday he officially unveiled his candidacy for the 2012 GOP nomination. But scrubbed from Cain’s official story is his long tenure as a director at a Midwest energy corporation named Aquila that, like the infamous Enron Corporation, recklessly dove into the wild west of energy trading and speculation—and ultimately screwed its employees out of tens of millions of dollars.

    CAIN WAS RUNNING A LITTLE ENRON SCAM ON HIS EMPLOYEES…..HE LOST OVER $200,000,000 OF HIS EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT FUNDS…..NOT A GOOD DEAL WHEN YOU WANT TO BE PRESIDENT

    WHY DIDNT CAIN MENTION HIS TIME ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AT THIS COMPANY ???….WHERE HE WAS IN CHARGE OF EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION…….HUH REPUBLICANS???….YOU FREAKS PROBALLY DONT MIND THO….YOU ALWAYS CHOOSE YOUR PARTYS BIGGEST CROOK ,SO BEING A GAWD DAMN THIEF WILL MOST LIKELY HELP HIM AS LONG AS ITS DUMBASS REPUKES LIKE YOU ASSHOLES DECIDING

  • Barack Must Go

    Two years ago the jackass in our White House tried and failed dismally to silence ” FOX NETWORKS “.

    What on earth could possess those fart sniffing ____ stains in the underwear of life over at Media Matters to undertake the same covert operation Barack himself failed at.

    I’m betting it was that same narcissistic jackass that failed the first time around, figuring no one would notice and even if they did they’d never believe that even He was That big of a _____bag to attempt it again.

  • NonElite

    I’m glad O’Reilly finally spoke up. I know it rarely helps to give low life like Media Matters any attention, but they shouldn’t just sit there and take every punch all the time.

  • Girth Brick

    Media Matters hoists wingnut liars on their own petard by using ACTUAL quote videos and pointing out he lie with a major news source.

    Formula works like this –

    Video of Glenn Beck lying + Washington Post news that PROVES his lie = Media Matters page.

    Its that simple.

  • TillieGlockenspiel

    It just makes the Left and the legacy media CRAZY that the public has finally realized the bias and elitism that has become so pervasive in what we used to call the Fourth Estate.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duWtGgWanJM&feature=player_embedded#at=389

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Sam M. said:
    BillO”audience consist of the learning challenged at those at are over 110 years of age. No one but the tea-bagger cares what this moron has to say. He’s a joke and like most bagger does not realize it. Too stupid.

    Keep fooling yourself clown. LOL Don’t quit your day job. Remember to ask, “Do you want fries with that?”

  • ProObamaAgenda

    lol@u wingnuts hating media matters …all they do over there is play video clips of what the dipshits at FIXED NEWS SAY…..shamefully conservatives are wounded by their own words….i guess in the day of digital media you freaks should be more careful about what you say………WORDS COME BACK TO BITE YA IN THE ASS EVERYTIME

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    CAIN WAS RUNNING A LITTLE ENRON SCAM ON HIS EMPLOYEES…..HE LOST OVER $200,000,000 OF HIS EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT FUNDS…..NOT A GOOD DEAL WHEN YOU WANT TO BE PRESIDENT

    LOL, Hmmmmmmmmm? Should I take the word of a clown that calls himself “ProObamaAgenda”? He wouldn’t lie to us would he? After all we always believe people that hide their real name and then openly proclaim that they are shills for the socialist Obama? Sure we do. LOL

    What part of the stimulus bill do you get to lie for Obama?

  • TillieGlockenspiel

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/20110523/pl_dailycaller/whitehouseaddsmediapositiontocombatunfavorablestories

    The White House is stepping up its rapid response media operation, creating a communications position to respond to unfavorable stories on the Web, the Huffington Post reports.
    HuffPo’s Sam Stein writes that Jesse Lee, a member of the Obama administration’s new media department, will take on a new role in replying — at times aggressively — to stories that paint the administration in a bad light.
    In a preview of what his duties may be, Lee blasted Fox News commentator Glenn Beck in a White Houseblog post, accusing Beck of lying and engaging in a “partisan attack to boost ratings.”
    “This week, Jesse Lee will move from the new media department into a role in the communications department as Director of Progressive Media & Online Response,” said Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer in an internal memo obtained by the Huffington Post.
    “For the last two years, Jesse has often worn two hats working in new media and serving as the White House’s liaison with the progressive media and online community,” the memo read. “Starting this week, Jesse will take on the second role full time working on outreach, strategy and response.”
    [ For complete coverage of politics and policy, go to Yahoo! Politics ]

    Lee is also expected to deal favorably with the “progressive media,” according to the memo.

  • RhapsodyinBlue

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    Good for you Bill , MM is a repulsive foul nest of evil blooters .

    Attacking Media Matters the organization and NOT their actual content, a common occurrence amongst right wingers. They have no answers for the fact checking their actually do. FoxNews main line is MediaMatters is nothing no one cares blah blah blah but no one talks more about them than FoxNews. Ain’t it nice? Keep is going MM

  • The Lantern of Truth

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    ASSHOLES

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    BITE YA IN THE ASS

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    wingnuts

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    FREAKS

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    GAWD DAMN

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    DUMBASS REPUKES

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    loon

    You are unusually rational tonight , Mrs. Obama .

  • Sean68

    Orbitz is racist.

  • Sean68

    Sean68 said:
    Orbitz is racist.

    P.S. Lean Forward

  • seek

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    O’Rielly is a loon…..people trusting him is a delusion……HEY wingnuts…..Remember HERMAN CAIN ????….he used to be a candidate for president……HE’s DONE…..It’s OVA ALREADY………Heres a tidbit of Info about Cain the FOX FORGOT TO TELL YOU…..KINDA UNUSUAL CONSIDERING BILL-O THE CLOWN JUST SAID TONIGHT THAT FOX IS THE MOST TRUSTED NAME IN NEWS……OK HERE WE GO ::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Cain clearly believes that his pro-business message is what GOP voters want to hear. So much so, in fact, that on Saturday he officially unveiled his candidacy for the 2012 GOP nomination. But scrubbed from Cain’s official story is his long tenure as a director at a Midwest energy corporation named Aquila that, like the infamous Enron Corporation, recklessly dove into the wild west of energy trading and speculation—and ultimately screwed its employees out of tens of millions of dollars.

    CAIN WAS RUNNING A LITTLE ENRON SCAM ON HIS EMPLOYEES…..HE LOST OVER $200,000,000 OF HIS EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT FUNDS…..NOT A GOOD DEAL WHEN YOU WANT TO BE PRESIDENT

    WHY DIDNT CAIN MENTION HIS TIME ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AT THIS COMPANY ???….WHERE HE WAS IN CHARGE OF EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION…….HUH REPUBLICANS???….YOU FREAKS PROBALLY DONT MIND THO….YOU ALWAYS CHOOSE YOUR PARTYS BIGGEST CROOK ,SO BEING A GAWD DAMN THIEF WILL MOST LIKELY HELP HIM AS LONG AS ITS DUMBASS REPUKES LIKE YOU ASSHOLES DECIDING

    I gather you are the advance committee from media matters. Must be tough to find a decent job but keep trying – there’s still hope.

  • seek

    I see Glack doesn’t want to show his face. 4:1 appears to be a very low estimate.

    As for media matters. I think their “audience” are some of our favourite posters on here. lol

  • abowen

    so sick of reading the right wing extremest , we used to laugh at your anger but you are pathetic, so we read the news not the idiots

  • seek

    abowen said:
    so sick of reading the right wing extremest , we used to laugh at your anger but you are pathetic, so we read the news not the idiots

    and you lie. Every “extremist” comment on here is from you and yours. It is pathetic that you can’t even tell the truth when the truth is right in front of you. That truly is pathetic.

  • Bill Huggins

    How DARE THEY playback every word I say and transcribe it so everyone can read the CRAZY STUFF we say

    How DARE THEY HIT RECORD AND PLAYBACK

    MY VCR IS A LEFT WINGER EXTREMIST TOO!!!!!

  • Greg

    M.M. Is a vocal opponent of FOX because FOX is a vocal opponent of America posing as journalistic enterprise… Gleaning income by selling time to those who need their worst impulses verified.

  • IIWII

    Girth Brick said:
    Media Matters hoists wingnut liars on their own petard blockquote>

    You do realize “hoisted by his own petard” means blown up by your own bomb…… you do understand that, right? They way you phrased this is reads, “Media Matters was blown up by their own bomb while trying to expose wingnut liars.”
    Not surprised you misused a quote… since I have been reading you for a bit now and fnd you often misuse your brain.

  • seek

    Greg said:
    Gleaning income by selling time to those who need their worst impulses verified.

    what does this mean?

  • IIWII

    seek said:
    what does this mean?

    Maybe they mean’t “justified”??????

  • Gasket

    MMFA is so irrelevant, so vicious, so stupid, so “far left” but we’ll spend several minutes talking about them anyway. Bill, you are enabling them. MMFA is not going away and the sharp rebuke they get from Faux News the more we know they are doing a fantastic job. Keep kvetching.

  • ChrisNH

    seek said:
    what does this mean?

    Dogs don’t quite bark coherently with foaming rabies coming out from all crevices, either. That’s your typical Lib nowadays. LOL @ them. They were fattening themselves with caviar and butter-drenched lobster in 2009. Now they are near-suicidal. I love it. Oh…TEE HEE!

  • insideguy

    Hey i must admit im kinda naive on this issue. So media matters is a far left website and posts things that are unkind and maybe at times untrue got it. But whats the difference between media matters and a far right website that does the same thing? Im sure Bill O doesn’t like media matters but im unclear why its such a big deal. Brit seemed to just be blowing them off. You can find practically anything on the web from logical political forums to crazy ass forums both left and right. Why is Bill O so against this particular website?

  • IIWII

    insideguy said:
    Hey i must admit im kinda naive on this issue. So media matters is a far left website and posts things that are unkind and maybe at times untrue got it. But whats the difference between media matters and a far right website that does the same thing? Im sure Bill O doesn’t like media matters but im unclear why its such a big deal. Brit seemed to just be blowing them off. You can find practically anything on the web from logical political forums to crazy ass forums both left and right. Why is Bill O so against this particular website?

    Same reason left-leaning sites attack FOX and others… ratings. I always tell my students, “Follow the money trail.”

  • Liberal Tormentor

    I love how Bill openly mocks the failure that is Media Matters. In a recent list of the top political websites, MM went from #5 to #15 this year. Ouch. I guess all that Soro’s money can’t buy you legitimacy.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    ProObamaAgenda said……

    Shouldn’t you be in Rev.Wrights congregtion eating a tamale, Michelle?

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Gasket says:
    MMFA is so irrelevant, so vicious, so stupid, so “far left” but we’ll spend several minutes talking about them anyway

    Yeah, he was throwing their latest epic failure back in their face and telling people to use Orbitz. They got owned by Orbitz!

  • ndanielson

    New Position At The White House: Unfavorable Online Media Czar…

    With skin, and a resume as thin as 0bama’s, what better way to keep the sheep hooked? Having the least real world experience of any administration in history, teleprompter training and propaganda machines are important.

    If M.M. was effective enough, damage control would be unnecessary. Hey George, throw more money at your problem! LOL. Just like America’s schools…more money for liberals will fix ANYTHING. Right? Even overspending and bankruptcy, inflation and unemployment…

    Just in time for the 2012 election, President Obama has established a new position within the communications department. The Director of Progressive Media and Online response is the spiffy new title held by Jesse Lee. Yes, Lee is the new Unfavorable online media czar, and that means you, you bunch of conservative bloggers, you.

    Huffington Post reports that Lee will be responsible for suppressing any stories about Obama that aren’t true. Does this mean stories that the White House deems to be untrue or stories that are actually, truly untrue? Pretty much anything ever reported about Obama in a negative light, they’ve responded by saying that it’s not true.

    Wow. What a scholar and constitutionalist he is, too…How ’bout that war powers act???

    Hey, how about that emergency extension of the Patriot Act that was soooooo bad when Bush was president?

    Top congressional leaders agreed Thursday to a four-year extension of the anti-terrorist Patriot Act, the controversial law passed after the Sept. 11 attacks that governs the search for terrorists on American soil.

    The deal between Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Speaker John Boehner calls for a vote before May 27, when parts of the current act expire. The idea is to pass the extension with as little debate as possible to avoid a protracted and familiar argument over the expanded power the law gives to the government.

    Hey, was MM against the Patriot Act when Bush was president???

    Hey, was Eric Holder against the Patriot Act when Bush was president???

    Hey was Barry 0bama against the Patriot Act when Bush was president???

    You leftists suck.

  • seek

    insideguy said:
    Hey i must admit im kinda naive on this issue. So media matters is a far left website and posts things that are unkind and maybe at times untrue got it. But whats the difference between media matters and a far right website that does the same thing? Im sure Bill O doesn’t like media matters but im unclear why its such a big deal. Brit seemed to just be blowing them off. You can find practically anything on the web from logical political forums to crazy ass forums both left and right. Why is Bill O so against this particular website?

    There is no right leaning anything. No right leaning comments either – scrubbed immediately. It’s nothing more than George Soros trying to take down Fox – that’s why it was created and George just keeps throwing money at it.

  • Nacho

    O’Reilly telling people to use Orbitz who sponsor his station. Sounds like part of the deal, O’Reilly is a radio guy and they use the spiel all of the time. Orbitz pays his check.

  • seek

    IIWII said:
    Same reason left-leaning sites attack FOX and others… ratings. I always tell my students, “Follow the money trail.”

    well if you were honest with your “students” – the money trail starts with George – do you tell them how a man who has taken down Governments to line his pocket with ill gained assets is now funding a whole plethora of left wing bogs etc.. (oh and has the Pres’s ear). I’m sure you share all that with them also.

  • IIWII

    Ummm….. yes………… if ya haven’t been following my scarce posts………I am conservative.

  • Nacho

    IIWII said:
    Same reason left-leaning sites attack FOX and others… ratings. I always tell my students, “Follow the money trail.”

    Same reason FOX sells the news that they do??? ratings? Follow the money trail?

  • IIWII

    seek said:
    well if you were honest with your “students” – the money trail starts with George – do you tell them how a man who has taken down Governments to line his pocket with ill gained assets is now funding a whole plethora of left wing bogs etc.. (oh and has the Pres’s ear). I’m sure you share all that with them also.

    Stalin(my avatar) ain’t wearin’ a jackass because he is a farmer…..

  • IIWII

    Nacho said:
    Same reason FOX sells the news that they do??? ratings? Follow the money trail?

    Yep… follow the money trail. Either side.

  • ndanielson

    seek said:
    There is no right leaning anything. No right leaning comments either – scrubbed immediately. It’s nothing more than George Soros trying to take down Fox – that’s why it was created and George just keeps throwing money at it.

    Huffpo was the same joke. Anything remotely unfavorable to 0bama, leftists, liberals or sheep, unless it was someone like gasket or Garth who was having their way WITH the sheep, was scrubbed immediately. I have never seen anything like it. It was a joke. I can see how they get brainwashed. They are protected by hall monitors at Huffpo. Super posters or something.

  • Nacho

    Mentioning George Soros is the first sign that we have a wingnut on our hands.

  • seek

    Nacho said:
    Mentioning George Soros is the first sign that we have a wingnut on our hands.

    why? Does he not fund your favourite source of information? Why, yes he does! Surprise!!!!!

  • seek

    Nacho said:
    O’Reilly telling people to use Orbitz who sponsor his station. Sounds like part of the deal, O’Reilly is a radio guy and they use the spiel all of the time. Orbitz pays his check.

    uhhhhm Jim – O’Reilly doesn’t have a radio show – hasn’t had one for a couple of years. lol

  • IIWII

    IIWII said:
    Stalin(my avatar) ain’t wearin’ a jackass because he is a farmer…..

    HEY!!!!!!!! Why did you put “students” in “quotes”?????????????? I and my students are highly offended!!!!

  • seek

    ndanielson said:
    Huffpo was the same joke. Anything remotely unfavorable to 0bama, leftists, liberals or sheep, unless it was someone like gasket or Garth who was having their way WITH the sheep, was scrubbed immediately. I have never seen anything like it. It was a joke. I can see how they get brainwashed. They are protected by hall monitors at Huffpo. Super posters or something.

    Absolutely true. Arianna was so embarrassed to have been married to a gay guy for so many years and couldn’t tell that she turned herself inside out from a strong republican to a left wing loon- lol (I guess you’d have to do something drastic to get over that trauma)

  • Kitsune

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Gasket says:
    MMFA is so irrelevant, so vicious, so stupid, so “far left” but we’ll spend several minutes talking about them anyway

    Yeah, he was throwing their latest epic failure back in their face and telling people to use Orbitz. They got owned by Orbitz!

    Sorry, Michele, but you’re wrong on this one. Media Matters’ purpose isn’t to be #1 at anything. It’s to keep tossing blood into the water for Progressives to chum. As long as they keep doing that, they’re a success.

  • Nacho

    seek said:
    uhhhhm Jim – O’Reilly doesn’t have a radio show – hasn’t had one for a couple of years. lol

    Wow, a whole two years?

    Once a radio guy, always a radio guy. You don’t know much about media or politics, how did you end up here?

  • insideguy

    Ok some of the answers make sense. But isn’t Bill O just giving media matters publicity when he brings them up all the time? I mean Bill O called whats his name travis smiley or whatever for years just so he wouldnt give him publicity. Just seems weird to me to attack something that you consider irrelevant all of the time. Ahh well I suppose both sides do it.

  • im_lovin_it

    Does anyone remember when Media Matters started or what their purpose was? I know this country has the attention span of a squirrel, but were the Bush years really that long ago? Check some of their old hits from back in the day. They used to have a pretty legit purpose before they started this Spy vs. Spy clown show with Fox News.

  • Kitsune

    Republicans don’t realize that trying to take the high road will always make for a loser.

    Winners have to be on the cutting edge and engage the youth. The viral video and internet meme generation. They have to be willing to play dirty and drag Progressive candidates through the dirt just like Progressives do to Republicans. Thanks to Media Matters, Mediaite, and Huffington, Republican candidates runs are over before they even begin. They’ve got the stones to start slinging mud at Chris Christie WHEN HE’S NOT RUNNING, JUST SO THAT THERE’S NO WAY HE CAN EVER RUN. Republicans will NEVER have the balls to do that to a Progressive.

    It would be interesting if someone outside of the two party dynamic could legitimately get on the ballot, and legitimately be in it to win.

  • Nacho

    insideguy said:
    Ok some of the answers make sense. But isn’t Bill O just giving media matters publicity when he brings them up all the time? I mean Bill O called whats his name travis smiley or whatever for years just so he wouldnt give him publicity. Just seems weird to me to attack something that you consider irrelevant all of the time. Ahh well I suppose both sides do it.

    It’s an effort to legitimize his biggest threat. MM has nailed FoxNews on quite a few things that if his viewers actually saw it for what it was, might go away. As long as he can keep them believing they’re not to be taken seriously, the more he says it, the more they believe it.

  • insideguy

    I actually think IIWII makes sense. Both sides like to attack the others radical side, thereby gaining ratings but at the same time calling them irrelevant and unimportant. I attack Beck a lot although I don’t think he irrelevant I thinks he’s dangerous. It does make for good ratings attacking the other sides crazier side though.

  • seek

    Nacho said:
    Wow, a whole two years?

    Once a radio guy, always a radio guy. You don’t know much about media or politics, how did you end up here?

    You claimed he was shilling for his radio program – you said it smart guy – now you’re attempting to deflect. What a dirt bag. You don’t know how to say “sorry I was being stupid again” – so I’ll say it for you:

    Sorry folks – Nacho was covered in cheese and didn’t have a freaking clue what he was talking about. O’Reilly doesn’t have a radio show so he couldn’t have been shilling for Orbitz. Nacho is embarrassed and can’t say it so asked me to send his apology.

  • insideguy

    Makes sense as well Nacho. Why the hell am I getting thumbs down for asking a question lol you wingnuts are merciless lol.

  • Nacho

    im_lovin_it said:
    Does anyone remember when Media Matters started or what their purpose was? I know this country has the attention span of a squirrel, but were the Bush years really that long ago? Check some of their old hits from back in the day. They used to have a pretty legit purpose before they started this Spy vs. Spy clown show with Fox News.

    He is one of the stories that has been talked about quite a bit the last couple days. It’s a profile piece on David Brock, the creator of Medea Matters. I learned a lot that I didn’t know. It should answer your question.

    http://nymag.com/print/?/news/media/david-brock-media-matters-2011-5/

  • IIWII

    insideguy said:
    Makes sense as well Nacho. Why the hell am I getting thumbs down for asking a question lol you wingnuts are merciless lol.

    kekeke— just so ya know, I am conservative but I had to respond to your question. I once got a thumb’s down because I asked a person if their cat was OK after having a bout of congestion. OH!!! and I ALWAYS give a thumbs up to those annoying ad/posts!

  • Nacho

    seek said:
    You claimed he was shilling for his radio program – you said it smart guy – now you’re attempting to deflect. What a dirt bag.

    You have got to be kidding me. There was a video, the summation was of his TV show, How the hell would you get the imprison that I was talking about a radio show?

    He was shilling for his advertiser the way a radio guy would, he was resorting to his good ‘ol radio techniques.

    What is wrong with you people?

  • insideguy

    lol 11W11 ill give ya a thumbs up just for not giving me a thumbs down. And Kitsune does the right not hav any websites that are the equivalent of Media Matters? I must admit I don’t go to any real far left or far right web sites. Ive looked at some Media Matters and it doesn’t appeal to me that much even though im a lefty. Im sure the Far right can compete with them though.

  • Kitsune

    insideguy said:
    Makes sense as well Nacho. Why the hell am I getting thumbs down for asking a question lol you wingnuts are merciless lol.

    Honestly? I can tell you where it comes from. I’m a moderate who doesn’t particularly like how either side presents itself right now, and yet a very-left progressive that I went to high school with paints me as being a 95 year old jesus freak rich white man with guns coming out of my ears just because I don’t agree with her on 100% of her positions. Even though she knows better. At the same time, the right-leaning people I know RL don’t particularly trust me either, because I don’t agree with 100% of THEIR positions.

    THAT’S why people get thumbs-downed for nothing more than something they said in the past that someone else didn’t like.

  • Nacho

    Nacho said:
    O’Reilly telling people to use Orbitz who sponsor his station. Sounds like part of the deal, O’Reilly is a radio guy and they use the spiel all of the time. Orbitz pays his check.

    Seriously, how stupid are you?

  • insideguy

    Yes I know Kitsune there are many trolls on these boards who I have destroyed in arguments, that do not like me and wish to crush me with many red thumbs down. I will never relent to this torture:)

  • im_lovin_it

    Nacho said:
    He is one of the stories that has been talked about quite a bit the last couple days. It’s a profile piece on David Brock, the creator of Medea Matters. I learned a lot that I didn’t know. It should answer your question.

    http://nymag.com/print/?/news/media/david-brock-media-matters-2011-5/

    Remember who “Tingles” original tingle was for? Give everybody a hint…..he was wearing a flight suit!

    Also,

    Nacho said:
    Seriously, how stupid are you?

    Hahahaha….whoops.

    Also,
    Dirk Nowitzki is a gangster.

  • im_lovin_it

    insideguy said:
    Yes I know Kitsune there are many trolls on these boards who I have destroyed in arguments, that do not like me and wish to crush me with many red thumbs down. I will never relent to this torture:)

    This place is pretty much a desolate wasteland of human thought. You’ll encounter some people that are just completely detached from reality that come in day after day saying just shockingly dumb shit. So, I would consider a thumbs down a badge of honor.

    By the way, I’ve read some of your arguments and they’re pretty sound and also hilarious.

  • Kitsune

    insideguy said:
    Yes I know Kitsune there are many trolls on these boards who I have destroyed in arguments, that do not like me and wish to crush me with many red thumbs down. I will never relent to this torture:)

    I honestly don’t care one way or the other.

    Some of y’all act like this place is 4chan, though.

  • IIWII

    Kitsune said:
    I honestly don’t care one way or the other.

    Some of y’all act like this place is 4chan, though.

    I do believe you and I are very similar although I lean right. There are far too many posters on this site that lash out against the “other” side for politic’s sake. I have seldom had a nice, rational discussion here.

  • IIWII

    uh-oh… kitsune, nacho, insideguy, im_lovin_it and me… are all saying similar things………….. maybe the “rapture” is tonight?????

  • seek

    Nacho said:
    You have got to be kidding me. There was a video, the summation was of his TV show, How the hell would you get the imprison that I was talking about a radio show?

    He was shilling for his advertiser the way a radio guy would, he was resorting to his good ‘ol radio techniques.

    What is wrong with you people?

    Sounds like part of the deal, O’Reilly is a radio guy and they use the spiel all of the time. Orbitz pays his check.

  • seek

    have no idea where I got it from nacho. lol

  • Nacho

    seek said:
    Sounds like part of the deal, O’Reilly is a radio guy and they use the spiel all of the time. Orbitz pays his check.

    I thought I was talking to adults that had the comprehensions skills of at least a high school graduate.

    This story is about a TV program, they talk about the TV program, there was a video of the TV program. I read it and I watched it, but you take my response as I’m talking about a radio program? You know O’Reilly once had a radio program so you know he is a radio guy. The fact that you took all of those “Factors” and couldn’t put it together and realize I was commenting on this media critique about the television program says more about you.

    I don’t bother following up posts after I notice my many typos because I have the understanding that the people here have the critical thinking skills to figure out the thought that I was trying to express. I don’t bother spelling out every idea in detail that I have to share because I expect the adults here to understand the topic that I am addressing, besides, people don’t want to see some long drawn out explanation.

    But you need that? I going to hope that you are just trying to manufacture a “Gotcha” moment because that’s all you’ve got. Otherwise you need to slow down and read and think about what you read before you respond.

  • seek

    lol

  • IIWII

    Nacho said:
    I thought I was talking to adults that had the comprehensions skills of at least a high school graduate.

    This story is about a TV program, they talk about the TV program, there was a video of the TV program. I read it and I watched it, but you take my response as I’m talking about a radio program? You know O’Reilly once had a radio program so you know he is a radio guy. The fact that you took all of those “Factors” and couldn’t put it together and realize I was commenting on this media critique about the television program says more about you.

    I don’t bother following up posts after I notice my many typos because I have the understanding that the people here have the critical thinking skills to figure out the thought that I was trying to express. I don’t bother spelling out every idea in detail that I have to share because I expect the adults here to understand the topic that I am addressing, besides, people don’t want to see some long drawn out explanation.

    But you need that? I going to hope that you are just trying to manufacture a “Gotcha” moment because that’s all you’ve got. Otherwise you need to slow down and read and think about what you read before you respond.

    Realizing and understanding your own shortcomings is vital for growth… maybe you should type slower and drink less… then your posts would be more valid. It is not the fact you make typos… it is the realization you should type poorly…. take the next step…. hone your limited skills… people will take you more seriously.

  • darladoon

    anyone with even a shred of experience visiting media matters knows that it is ANYTHING but
    “vicious” and “far left”

    while they certainly have an agenda, all their website really does is post video and transcripts
    of things they (media matters) don’t like

    outside of the comments section, media matters has a host of opinion writers (who clearly have
    an agenda, but who also make logical arguments), but the bulk of their content is video clips and
    the accompanying transcripts.

    that’s hardly vicious or far left. they’re pretty much the leftwing of the *current* democratic party,
    which is HARDLY left wing or “far left”. i hate to break it to you wingnuts, but any democrat
    who talks about dismantling the social safety net or cutting more taxes (and that is quite a few of them
    these days), especially in times like these, is basically…….not a democrat.

  • IIWII

    darladoon said:
    *current* democratic party,
    .

    DEMOCRAT party… NOT DEMOCRATIC party… geesh, man/woman… learn the language!!!! BOTH parties are DEMOCRATIC……………………….. the “IC” at the end makes all the difference!!!!! Republicans and Democrats are democrat-IC…. the Democrats are democrats……… get it right……………illiterate…..

  • im_lovin_it

    darladoon said:
    that’s hardly vicious or far left. they’re pretty much the leftwing of the *current* democratic party,
    which is HARDLY left wing or “far left”. i hate to break it to you wingnuts, but any democrat
    who talks about dismantling the social safety net or cutting more taxes (and that is quite a few of them
    these days), especially in times like these, is basically…….not a democrat.

    Here’s our Democratic party in action!

    http://www.salon.com/news/politics/democratic_party/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2011/05/23/bipartisanship

    And yet again I find myself cheering for Rand Paul…….how does that saying go, “f*ck my life?”

  • im_lovin_it

    im_lovin_it said:
    Here’s our Democratic party in action!

    http://www.salon.com/news/politics/democratic_party/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2011/05/23/bipartisanship

    And yet again I find myself cheering for Rand Paul…….how does that saying go, “f*ck my life?”

    TYPO! Meant to say “DEMONcrat party” because that’s what they are! Demons!…..that do the same thing the….republicans…did a few years ago……

  • Nacho

    IIWII said:
    DEMOCRAT party… NOT DEMOCRATIC party… geesh, man/woman… learn the language!!!! BOTH parties are DEMOCRATIC……………………….. the “IC” at the end makes all the difference!!!!! Republicans and Democrats are democrat-IC…. the Democrats are democrats……… get it right……………illiterate…..

    I think you’re the one that’s losing it man. Maybe YOU……should put down the bottle and go to bed.

    It is indeed The Democratic Party.

  • IIWII

    Nacho said:
    I think you’re the one that’s losing it man. Maybe YOU……should put down the bottle and go to bed.

    It is indeed The Democratic Party.

    Nope… Democratic means doing things in a democratic way… open votes, people vying for a position, majority rules… that is the democratIC process. Democrats and Republicans both work by democratic process/rules…. you madam/sir are wrong…. it is the Democrat party… and the United States works on democratIC principles.

  • darladoon

    IIWII said:
    DEMOCRAT party… NOT DEMOCRATIC party… geesh, man/woman… learn the language!!!! BOTH parties are DEMOCRATIC……………………….. the “IC” at the end makes all the difference!!!!! Republicans and Democrats are democrat-IC…. the Democrats are democrats……… get it right……………illiterate…..

    it’s the democratic party

    it’s not the ‘democrat’ party

    that’s like saying the ‘republic’ party

  • Nacho

    I think you are in prime mode to go on Wikipedia and make the would see it your way.

  • darladoon

    IIWII said:
    Nope… Democratic means doing things in a democratic way… open votes, people vying for a position, majority rules… that is the democratIC process. Democrats and Republicans both work by democratic process/rules…. you madam/sir are wrong…. it is the Democrat party… and the United States works on democratIC principles.

    it’s as if this person woke up in 2005 or 2006

  • im_lovin_it

    Well you guys better figure this out because I don’t want to look stupid in front of all my friends at Mediaite.

  • darladoon

    darladoon said:
    it’s as if this person woke up in 2005 or 2006

    and btw, you’re applying grammatical rules to names or titles, where those rules don’t apply

    for example, there is a ‘problematic’; and there something which is ‘problematical’

    those terms are neither names nor titles, and therefore the grammatical rule in question does
    not apply to them, as the ‘democratic party’ is an actual title.

  • IIWII

    darladoon said:
    it’s the democratic party

    it’s not the ‘democrat’ party

    that’s like saying the ‘republic’ party

    In truth… it should be the Republic Party… yep… as in honoring and perpetuating a Republic. I give you that. But here is the nub… being a Republican party member means we believe in the principles of a Republic… being a memeber of the Democrat party means you believe in doing things in a democratic way………… BUT, a Republic is also founded on demoratic principles…. you lose. Democrat party… democratic principles… which means Republicans are also democratic………..

  • Nacho

    im_lovin_it said:
    Well you guys better figure this out because I don’t want to look stupid in front of all my friends at Mediaite.

    The guy claims to be a teacher, we need to think about the kids……………..

  • IIWII

    darladoon said:
    and btw, you’re applying grammatical rules to names or titles, where those rules don’t apply

    for example, there is a ‘problematic’; and there something which is ‘problematical’

    those terms are neither names nor titles, and therefore the grammatical rule in question does
    not apply to them, as the ‘democratic party’ is an actual title.

    Nope…… you are wrong.

  • IIWII

    Nacho said:
    The guy claims to be a teacher, we need to think about the kids……………..

    Maybe one day your children (kids are goats) will be in my class and they will actually learn something….. from a democratic teacher who is a Republican.

  • Nacho

    We are all doomed if the kids are bein’ learned by an oxyMORON………,,,,,,,,
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,AHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…..

  • IIWII

    darladoon said:
    as the ‘democratic party’ is an actual title.

    You just proved my point. You did not capitalize “Democratic” as in party… because in truth… democratic is a principle, NOT a position. Republican is a position… as in the Roman “Republic”…. I am finished now. I have students in the morning who need to learn the difference between a principle and a position…. and you would do well to re-read your basic civics material.

  • IIWII

    Nacho said:
    We are all doomed if the kids are bein’ learned by an oxyMORON………,,,,,,,,
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,AHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…..

    Nice retort… name calling and anger……….my students will get a kick out of this shallowness.

  • Nacho

    IIWII said:
    Nice retort… name calling and anger……….my students will get a kick out of this shallowness.

    It wasn’t a retort, it was a joke. Once you didn’t recognize that the Party is in fact named The Democratic Party, I gave up on trying to discuss it with you. You are a person that should use his real name on these forums. The parents of the children you teach should know where their teacher is coming from. You obviously have no shame in your game, you should let the parents know.

  • IIWII

    IIWII said:
    In truth… it should be the Republic Party… yep… as in honoring and perpetuating a Republic. I give you that. But here is the nub… being a Republican party member means we believe in the principles of a Republic… being a memeber of the Democrat party means you believe in doing things in a democratic way………… BUT, a Republic is also founded on demoratic principles…. you lose. Democrat party… democratic principles… which means Republicans are also democratic………..

    Oh and to parraphrase Monty Python and, “Spam spam spam spam…” You have been, “Schooled, schooled, schooled, schooled…” Democratic…. um, sorry….Democrat….. see, the “ic” makes a difference….. “Schooled, schooled, schooled, schooled….”

  • IIWII

    Nacho said:
    It wasn’t a retort, it was a joke. Once you didn’t recognize that the Party is in fact named The Democratic Party, I gave up on trying to discuss it with you. You are a person that should use his real name on these forums. The parents of the children you teach should know where their teacher is coming from. You obviously have no shame in your game, you should let the parents know.

    Not a joke (to be a joke it must be funny) and the parents of my students know me.You can “name” your party anything you want…. the use of the words mean something… Democrat as opposed to democratic…. they are different. Nice try. Oh… and I was retained with high marks and offered and received the AD position for next year. My students are doing just fine, thank you. And many of your posts have made their way into my government class.

  • JasonMays

    Sam M. said:
    BillO”audience consist of the learning challenged at those at are over 110 years of age. No one but the tea-bagger cares what this moron has to say. He’s a joke and like most bagger does not realize it. Too stupid.

    Drunk again I see.

  • IIWII

    JasonMays said:
    Drunk again I see.

    Gotta love the “left” and the clever use of non -traditional English….

  • JasonMays

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    lol@u wingnuts hating media matters …all they do over there is play video clips of what the dipshits at FIXED NEWS SAY…..shamefully conservatives are wounded by their own words….i guess in the day of digital media you freaks should be more careful about what you say………WORDS COME BACK TO BITE YA IN THE ASS EVERYTIME

    Yes, FOX is sure suffering. Oh the agony they must feel every night when they trounce the carnival barkers you demonrats get your “news” from.

  • IIWII

    im_lovin_it said:
    Here’s our Democratic party in action!

    http://www.salon.com/news/politics/democratic_party/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2011/05/23/bipartisanship

    And yet again I find myself cheering for Rand Paul…….how does that saying go, “f*ck my life?”

    I hear ya brother/sister… lost in the political wilderness….

  • IIWII

    darladoon said:
    and btw, you’re applying grammatical rules to names or titles, where those rules don’t apply

    for example, there is a ‘problematic’; and there something which is ‘problematical’

    those terms are neither names nor titles, and therefore the grammatical rule in question does
    not apply to them, as the ‘democratic party’ is an actual title.

    You are mish-mashing plural/singular… and it makes you look like a dummy……… Look at my hands….”TWO STRIKES>>> THREE BALLS” do a google on “Dummy” Hoy… learn a lesson while you are vegetaing into oblivion.

  • Nacho

    IIWII said:
    Not a joke (to be a joke it must be funny) and the parents of my students know me.You can “name” your party anything you want…. the use of the words mean something… Democrat as opposed to democratic…. they are different. Nice try. Oh… and I was retained with high marks and offered and received the AD position for next year. My students are doing just fine, thank you. And many of your posts have made their way into my government class.

    I am not part of the Democratic Party, they won’t let me vote in their primaries.

    You used my words in your government class??? That is AWESOME! Did you give credit to “Nacho?” haha

    But if you think I’m part of the Democratic Party, I worry you are giving that party too much credit. I don’t vote along those lines.

  • IIWII

    Nacho said:
    I am not part of the Democratic Party, they won’t let me vote in their primaries.

    You used my words in your government class??? That is AWESOME! Did you give credit to “Nacho?” haha

    But if you think I’m part of the Democratic Party, I worry you are giving that party too much credit. I don’t vote along those lines.

    I just show your “words” and comments and let my students make up their own minds. I do not teach to persuade… I teach to inform. It is not my duty to recruit…

  • Nacho

    IIWII said:
    I just show your “words” and comments and let my students make up their own minds. I do not teach to persuade… I teach to inform. It is not my duty to recruit…

    That is great, I hope I am able to reach some of them and can off set the unintentional persuading that you have done.

    I don’t doubt that your educational level is that far off from mine. You’re doing the job I thought about but chose against because I can’t stand babysitting the kids. Maybe if I was in a small town like you I would have taken a different path.

  • IIWII

    Wow… are we “almost” friends?????? Ok, I will tell you a few things (in case you have missed them in earlier posts) I am 53 and after 32 years in the private sector went off to teach high school on an Indian reservation. Politics aside…… we need people to take up the cause and bring some(unintentional)education to the Rez. Just asking… what city/town are you in?

  • Nacho

    IIWII said:
    Wow… are we “almost” friends?????? Ok, I will tell you a few things (in case you have missed them in earlier posts) I am 53 and after 32 years in the private sector went off to teach high school on an Indian reservation. Politics aside…… we need people to take up the cause and bring some(unintentional)education to the Rez. Just asking… what city/town are you in?

    I respect what you are doing. You have a few years on me. I passed on the teaching but it was something that I was interested in. The way things our in our economy, I expect to have 2, 3, or even 4 careers in my lifetime, I hope being an educator is one of them at some point, 53 sounds like a great time. I give you props for what you’re doing. I live in a major city and it will be a challenge for me to stay here and teach.

  • IIWII

    Nacho said:
    the unintentional persuading that you have done.
    .

    Interesting…………. why is it so hard for you to believe that somewhere in the world a person gives a simple and direct position? Mayhaps there is NO unintentional persuading…………………. there is just teaching. Is it so hard to step out of political persuassion and see, simply, choice??????? I do not lead my students… I give them choices.

  • IIWII

    Nacho said:
    I respect what you are doing. You have a few years on me. I passed on the teaching but it was something that I was interested in. The way things our in our economy, I expect to have 2, 3, or even 4 careers in my lifetime, I hope being an educator is one of them at some point, 53 sounds like a great time. I give you props for what you’re doing. I live in a major city and it will be a challenge for me to stay here and teach.

    53 is wonderful…. my wife (who teaches in a different state) and I have been married 32 years… and we are still young enought to “enjoy” and old enough to “appreciate”….I do so miss that woman…. and, just saying…. she would kick your liberal ass into “understanding”…. kekekekekekekeke….. just saying.
    http://www.usefilm.com/image/1584971.html

  • LeviCoultify

    this is nothing but good news for Media Matters

  • Nacho

    It will be interesting to see if it’s a negative for Orbitz. Although, I have no idea how to measure that, maybe if they drop out after two or three months.

  • eli

    http://dailycaller.com/

    READ THIS NICE PIECE

  • IIWII

    eli said:
    http://dailycaller.com/

    READ THIS NICE PIECE

    NO THANks!! YOUr’e WRITinG Makes my EYES BLeEd!!!!! IdiotS!!!!!

  • Davo

    Frances Martel said:
    Bill O’Reilly Hammers ‘Vicious Far-Left Website’ Media Matters After Orbitz Declines Fox Boycott

    Why wait for Orbitz? Democrats always try to silence opposing voices in any way they can. Their policies cannot stand up to scrutiny because they are void of truth and logic as evidenced by their 100% failure rate for the past 60 years.

    Ever notice the similarities between Democrats and Muslim terrorists? . Perhaps those similarities are why Liberals always seem to side with the terrorists against America, Jews, Christians, and personal liberty.

    1. Both Muslims and Democrats seek to silence voices in opposition to their rhetoric. Neither can tolerate a fair debate that would surely bring both truth and logic into the fray, rendering both Liberalism and Islam with no logical basis for existence. Notice the response of Muslims when confronted with disagreement, and how it mirrors the Democrat mission to destroy talk radio and FOX News.

    2. Both Muslims and Democrats are convinced of their “natural” and exclusive right to rule over others. Neither can tolerate “insubordination” from alternative beliefs or personal choices. With neither is it “you’re either with us or agin’ us.” It’s “you’re either with us or you deserve death.”

    3. Both Muslims and Democrats consider themselves annointed with the exclusive rights to damage or destroy others. Both consider themselves ‘overlords’ with the final word in every affair. When either attacks and damages their opponents’ lives, any response by those opponents solicits Muslims or Democrats vows to “avenge” that response. They feel they have the “right” to destroy anyone they please, without their victims having equal recourse.

  • notsofast

    Poor Sorass must be crying!

  • seek

    Davo – I’d give you ten thumbs up for that – excellent and sadly very true.

  • Dave Richards

    You have to watch Media Matters very closely. They publish actual quotes from Fox and then proceed to lie about what was actually said by twisting and spinning the trurh.

  • Arthur (Not a Political Comic)

    Davo said:
    Why wait for Orbitz? Democrats always try to silence opposing voices in any way they can. Their policies cannot stand up to scrutiny because they are void of truth and logic as evidenced by their 100% failure rate for the past 60 years.

    Now, it’s ironic that you would use a lack of truth and logic to spread your point across. Let’s go point by point shall we. (I await the thumbs down that I’m about to get, but please, understand, I’m going to use truth and logic to pick apart these points and I hope that in return, Davo will do the same, let’s see if we can get into a substantial debate without limiting ourselves to sweeping generalizations and basic name calling, cause once that happens, well, debate is lost. So here we go…)

    Davo said:
    Ever notice the similarities between Democrats and Muslim terrorists? . Perhaps those similarities are why Liberals always seem to side with the terrorists against America, Jews, Christians, and personal liberty.

    Sweeping generalization there. I’m not sure of how many liberals (if any) have sided with the terrorists on the destruction of America. However, you may be thinking the elements such as human rights being shared by the terrorists is a way of liberals agreeing with the attacks on America. Now, wouldn’t logic dictate that by acknowledging basic inalienable rights to our enemies would have us rise above the brutal behavior of our enemies? Wouldn’t it also place our country (America) in a better light and show that we have set for what we believe our human rights, and that we certainly stand behind our ideals? Again, in a debate on the world stage, this is the logical end. To show that this is the way humanity should act and we are going to act that way. So, again, it’s a bit confusing to say liberals always side with the terrorists against…etc. But that isn’t true. At least, not when you examine it a little bit deeper than a quick sound bite.

    Davo said:
    1. Both Muslims and Democrats seek to silence voices in opposition to their rhetoric. Neither can tolerate a fair debate that would surely bring both truth and logic into the fray, rendering both Liberalism and Islam with no logical basis for existence. Notice the response of Muslims when confronted with disagreement, and how it mirrors the Democrat mission to destroy talk radio and FOX News.

    I personally think Media Matters is in the wrong on this one. However, not because I think they are trying to silence free speech, but because they should expand to beyond FOX News and examine prejudice and bias in all media. (It’s probably the main reason that I watch the BBC News because it’s difficult to find a media outlet in our country that doesn’t pander to a base). I think to be fair and to stand by your ideals, you have to ask for boycotts of other media institutions, like MSNBC, The New York Post, The New York Times, and many others that seem to have a political agenda in mind. However, I don’t think what Media Matters is doing is seeking out the silencing of free speech, because boycotts don’t do that. Boycotts are an example of free speech as well. They are designed to get your message across. Believe me, if Orbitz hadn’t taken the high road and actually did boycott FOX, I’m sure that FOX News would continue to thrive. FOX News will only disappear once nobody wants to hear them, and advertising revenue will go to the loudest voice that can reach the widest audience. Now, the idea that Liberalism, like Islam, has no logical reason for existence, that’s a dangerous thing to say if you want to use truth and logic behind your reasoning. See, by saying Islam has no logical reason for existence, since Islam rose to prominence as a religion historically in the same manner that Christianity rose, (starting out within a persecuted people, and then finding popularity among the leaders of the time, and being implemented during a period of empire building), in fact shooting off from the same religion, (Judaism), you would then have to say ipso facto that Christianity has no logical reason to exist. Now, do you feel this way? If so, will other conservatives agree with you. Now, to the liberalism part of the debate, it is believed that during the start of our country, those that were considered conservatives were for the English aristocracy, and those that were liberal, were for the splitting off from the King and forming our own country. In fact, the movement could be considered the Progressive movement as it were. The founding of this country valued human rights as well as government for the people, by the people. It was the idea that we as a community, as a collective, ran things. Revolution itself is a very liberal act. Therefore, this country now, according to you, makes no logical sense to exist. So, are you against this country? (I don’t think you are, you, like most people, tend to lump a few people into a collective, which cannot stand up to any sort of actual scrutiny. It’s the idea of no black and white, only gray).

    Davo said:
    2. Both Muslims and Democrats are convinced of their “natural” and exclusive right to rule over others. Neither can tolerate “insubordination” from alternative beliefs or personal choices. With neither is it “you’re either with us or agin’ us.” It’s “you’re either with us or you deserve death.”

    I just need more concrete evidence of things for this one. Have a lot of people died because they were against liberals? So, Timothy McVeigh was against conservatism? Those that fire bomb abortion clinicsNow, the Weather Underground were certainly liberals. But have a majority of liberals out there tried to kill you because of what you say? If so, I’m sorry about that. Though I don’t believe that’s how all liberals think. Again you are throwing out generalizations without specifics. Sure, it gets people already on your side to continue agreeing, but those on the fence need a little more.

    Davo said:
    3. Both Muslims and Democrats consider themselves annointed with the exclusive rights to damage or destroy others. Both consider themselves ‘overlords’ with the final word in every affair. When either attacks and damages their opponents’ lives, any response by those opponents solicits Muslims or Democrats vows to “avenge” that response. They feel they have the “right” to destroy anyone they please, without their victims having equal recourse.

    I think again you might be confusing radical Islam with all of Islam, none of my Muslim friends have that view. Also, I take it you were against killiing Bin Laden. Or entering WWII after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. I guess you really hated going into Iraq then. Or you didn’t think it was for WMDs or al Qaeda’s connection or…were you against Iraq altogether and didn’t a conservative President invade. I guess you were against going into Afghanistan after 9/11 as well.

    Also, in regards to the “overlords” thing, I can think of two issues where the conservatives are pro-overlord and the liberals are anti-. Gay marriage and abortion. Librerals are pro choice, taking it out of the government to decide and into the individual’s hand. By your statement, that means the conservatives should be pro-choice? No truth and logic with that statement. As far as gay marriage, aren’t conservatives impeding on individual rights because they don’t agree with the alternative lifestyle, which according to number 2 is something only Liberals and Muslims do. If you believe that the idea of impeding individual rights and not wanting to have government control, then you must be for abortion and gay rights. Are you? Then does that make you RINO or not? Are the conservatives really for it? See, truth and logic are two elements that you did not use in your argument. I’m not saying that you don’t believe your statements, I’m just saying that by making a black or white, all or nothing statement then saying truth and logic backs you up, well, you are going to get torn down because truth and logic does not exist within the realms of prejudice and generalization.

  • Arthur (Not a Political Comic)

    “If you believe that the idea of impeding individual rights and not wanting to have government control, then you must be for abortion and gay rights. Are you?”

    Sorry, should say pro choice and not for abortion. That was narrow minded thinking on my part. Corrected.

  • Dem4Ever

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    O’Rielly is a…

    You’re an idiot. Read a book…get an education. Do something you fool.

  • tegeagent0007

    For those who want to hear the truth need to watch the BBC network, and stop watching the likes of Fox or MSNBC.

  • felixw

    Arthur (Not a Political Comic) said:
    I think again you might be confusing radical Islam with all of Islam

    You mean like the mainstream media did with their accusations of violence against the tea party? With this important difference, no violent act ever took place at a tea party event.

    Don’t you love liberals getting finicky about generalizations — as they work to defend their own generalizations.

    Hey, Arthur, we all understand that the planes on 9-11 weren’t flown by EVERY MUSLIM IN THE WORLD. Like, duh…

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