No one’s mentioning it but last night Perry also caught a lot of flak from the other GOP candidates when he kept referring to Marcus Bachmann as ‘GURL’.

No one’s mentioning it but last night Perry also caught a lot of flak from the other GOP candidates when he kept referring to Marcus Bachmann as ‘GURL’.

Don’t watch a Cornell West interview CNN the word brother is used for everyone white or black person you heads would explode.

Why did Cornel West call Bill O’Reilly “brother” so much in that interview from last week? Why isn’t this an issue? Why does Perry calling Cain “brother” matter but not West calling O’Reilly “brother”?

Perry condescendingly called Cain “brother” because he didn’t think “ni@*er” would get by the CNN censors.

Because Perry is a Christian.  But liberals wouldn’t know that.  They think only in terms of racism.

Question to ask.  Why did Susan Sarandon call the Pope a nazi?  Did he leave her flat after so many years of living together, too?

http://themorningspew.com/2011/10/17/susan-sarandon-refers-to-pope-benedict-as-a-nazi/

You’re only allowed to call someone “brother” if they’re the same race. Unless you’re Dr. Cornell West, PhD. Then you can call everyone brother, even dead white males like Anton Checkov.

Is that why Perry called Michelle, sistah?

The righties can’t get their head around that there is a difference.  One is running for president one isn’t.  It doesn’t show much class.

A white guy calling a black guy ‘brother’ just sounds dumb and like you’re socially inept in talking with black people. 

The article above is right in that if Cain has no issues with the term then nobody else should be busy reading things into it that probably don’t exist.

The media is looking for anything to demonize republicans with,this is just another non story.

It’s becoming ridiculous.Words are being interpreted to suit agendas and are being defined in the worst possible context for ratings and sensationalism.

Really?

Next topic…

Who is Rick Perry and why are they calling Tollbooth that ?

I think Perry really likes Herb, next Perry will be inviting Herb to go hunting down at “N*ggerhead!”

This is just another case of the liberal media trying to start another faux controversy so they don’t have to talk about what a failure Barry has been.  Good little lapdogs!

Have you ever thought that it might be a term of endearment for Perry to call him brother? That, perhaps, he likes him personally and respects him? 

I think you look for any excuse to use that word. 

Yeah! That’s what it is!

Clearly you have not been to the ‘brotherhead’ ranch, they actually have a part of harriet tubman’s skull, hence, Perry named it brotherhead. Perry believes the underground railroad was a socialist movement that the marxists used during the civil war to steal the products of the southern slave-owning job-creators. Slaves and the social-communist-progressive-northerners actually advocated violence to get their ways, so I cannot support the overthrow of slavery. These and other facts are carved on the inside of Mrs’ Tubmann’s skull inside the ‘brother’ room at the brotherhead ranch. Some say, at night you can hear Harriet Tubman trying to escape. 

He didn’t say “ni@ger” because he didn’t want to be confused with a lib.

I guess he should have called him “sista?”

You’re saying Cornel West has no class?

Better than when libs call her a bitch, dear!

So in the 5th Century thinking of today’s liberal, it’s alright for a black person to call another black person “brother”, but not for a white person to do the same?

What is this, “Clan of the Cave Dems”?

You Dems give new meaning to the term “primitive tribalists”.

This truly shows ya how desperate libs are to save Barry’s failing presidency. They can’t think of one thing he has done in 3 years that is a positive to run on.

“I counted two there.”
Wow, she can count that high?

He certainly has no principles!

She used to work her “hourly” clients there!

Has Harry Reid commented on whether Cain sounds” like a Negro” yet?

Has Harry Reid commented on whether Cain sounds” like a Negro” yet?

It is a southern christian form of address.  Church people in the south use it all the time for anyone.  It is not connected to or restricted to race.  Both Mr Perry and Mr Cain are christians and would be familiar with the custom.  It is only the North East liberals who do not understand.

That’ll be “workfare” beginning in 2013!
lol

I don’t think anyone is calling Michelle these days, lib or otherwise XD

You silly people! 

He was calling him ‘Brother’ because he couldn’t say ‘Boy’.

Come on!! I haven’t used that word in weeks!!

Who, Michelle Bachmann??

It does sound dumb. But I think it sounds just as dumb for West to call O’Reilly “brotha’.

You mean like you do?

No racist undertones here. Perry referred do everyone else on the stage as brother or sister. Not only to Cain. That would be sick.

Cornell does that because he doesn’t know who his father was.

You mean like Bill Maher?

For the righties I have to break this down for them.  It doesn’t show much class on stage, but West was using the term as way to have a friendly conversation.  

Well, the libs got their TPs on this but at least one isn’t buying it:

Andrea Mitchell’s attempt to imply Rick Perry was being racially insensitive, for calling fellow GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain “brother,” during Tuesday’s Republican debate, was so lame even her NBC colleague Chuck Todd wasn’t buying it.

Mitchell, on Wednesday’s edition of MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell Reports, drudged up the N-Head controversy on Perry as she scolded: “If I were Rick Perry and had that sign or the, the stone that used to be on that, that property I’m not sure I would’ve gone with the ‘brother’ stuff, over and over again.”

Todd then tried to reign in his NBC colleague as he admonished: “Just very quickly on the ‘brother’ thing. That’s a Southern cultural thing,” and reminded her that their “late friend Mr. [Tim] Russert” was fond of using that term in a friendly way, “He loved to refer to all of us as brother.”

LOL

It’s hard for the righties to understand because they can’t get their little heads around to what is appropriate. So they have to use excuse after excuse.   

I’ll bet you love Def Comedy Jam. Check out that dorky white guy in the audience, yo!

I don’t think Maher calls them “brother”. He just doesn’t think they’re authentically black unless they threaten deadly violence when they’re angry.

i bought, at a yard sale in quahog, ma, a sculpture of harriet tubman making out with gwyneth paltrow…

Its hard to understand because liberals use a different set of standards for liberals and conservatives. Whenever we call you on it, you just move the goalposts.

It’s just Rick Parry trying to publicly bond with the Black man because of past charges of racism against him.

It’s like that episode of “It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia” where Charlie dates the Black girl to prove to his true love, the waitress, that he is not racist.

Basically, it is just using Black people.

So Perry (who I don’t support) was NOT trying to have a friendly conversation? Look let’s just cit ot the chase here…
Perry was a white guy saying it to a black guy.
West is a black guy saying it to a white guy.

The left’s opposition to Perry has nothing to do with a “stage” of “friendly conversation”. That’s just cover for a double standard. It really not that big a deal. I just don’t know why the left would have to dance around saying that.

Loathsome ghetto-izations like “bitch” and “pimp” as generic terms for female and ladies man, respectively, have yet to be totally coopted by our retarded mainstream culture. Thankfully.

thank you, finally, we have a winner…  i’m an atheist and even i understand the use you describe…

Why does anyone with a degree so intimidate you, Nutsofast? I realize the Short Bus doesn’t stop at Harvard, but it is unseemly of you to be so jealous.

perry should take lessons from the dnc if he wants to use blacks to his advantage…

LMAO

So you’re segregating Cornel West and Rick Perry as different classes of citizens? Rick Perry is now greater than Cornel West and can’t say something that Cornel can? Is this your argument? Sounds rather racist to me.

Be careful, there a racist under your bed.. AND IN YOUR CLOSET!!!!!!  AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

seriously, you white liberals are a bunch of scared little subservient pussies. Do you ever get tired of bending over backwards to coddle the racist elements in your party?

thanks for adding nothing to the conversation.

TB: For a White male Texan, “brother” is roughly equivalent to “dude”. The setting appropriate for its use is a bass boat, a hunting lodge, a road trip, a fraternity house, a locker room, a bar and the like. Since I have grown up using “brother” in a religious context, as in “brother-in-Christ” I seldom use it elsewhere. I even had a difficult time using it at the ΚΑ house.I don’t think Tollbooth’s use was meant to be offensive. Rather, it is part of Tollbooth’s “good ole boy” portfolio. In other words, he was “signifyin’”. I do think that the debate platform didn’t invite this degree of familiarity.

The righties have hard time grasping this concept of what is appropiate. Some people are bringing this up, so it seems they some thought it wasn’t inappropriate.  The righties have hard time grasping the gray scale scope.  In their minds everything has to equal out.  What is appropriate in certain situations may not be appropriate other situations.   

You think everyone with a degree from an Ivy League school is a genius, huh?

Do I really need to bring up Bush graduating from Yale?

Seriously, do you leftwing idiots ever think before you post your mindless crap?

Perry is a Methodist. It is not a term routinely used by Methodists in a religious context.

Like you, West is a pathetic gasbag with or without a degree.

Now go back to your cave, dogfart.

And, you look for excuses to bleat, kvetch, moan and whine.

The cynic in me was thinking that might be the case. Did he refer to anyone else as brother or sister? If not I don’t think he was trying to be offensive, but doing just what you said. It might have been the idea of a campaign advisor.

Is that irony, or what. Your nominees made complete fools of themselves last night, so you are avoiding talking about the debate.

I took some apples and oranges and made a great fruit salad for you and Little Brigham. I’ll drop it off later.

Infra, Nutsofast.

That contributed greatly. Thank you ever so much.

There’s a retreat house on the Hudson, not to far from West Point. The monks are Benedictine and observe the Great Silence. I spend a long weekend there thrice annually, at the beginning of Advent, at the beginning of Lent and Holy Thursday and Good Friday to be contemplative. The monks use the word all the time.

This is why righties have hard time with rational thought.  Everything has to be set up as a rank and file structure in black and white terms for them to understand.  I’m not segregating anyone, but somethings are not as appropriate on a stage when you are running for president. 

I’m sorry Jason,but you sound so confused.

Then why is it that he only called the black guy “brother”?

Well, he does have low class.

HAHAAHHA!!

Oh notsofast….You’re projecting!

You’re the one that uses the identifiers ‘son’ and ‘child’ and yes…you’ve used ‘boy’ lots as well!

You’re such a Clown! Hilarious!!!!!

No he didn’t.

That’s just crap! What you are saying is that everything is grey and only gifted leftists can truly discern right from wrong because only they can see the mystical shapes in the mist? Get over yourself, you tool! Who made up this “what’s appropriate on a stage when you are running for President rule?” You did, of course, to provide some lame construct on which to base your lame attack on Perry. I agree that calling other people brother can be annoying, but I know people who do it all the time. Most of them are very religious and use the term to refer to fellow Christians. Okay, now I’m going to anticipate your next nonsensical attack: Perry called Cain brother to distinguish him from Romney who is not a real Christian because he’s Mormon.  Whatever…

It’s because Rick Perry is a racist. That’s why…

Rick Perry is an idiot, he totally disrespected Herman Cain, Rush Limbaugh’s price stallion can’t even get out of the gate.

Tim, I hope you are still in school.  Your writing is atrocious.  You have three sentences connected with comma splices, and it’s “prized” stallion and not “price.” 

You have Perry figured.

I agree with you on the tradition, but not Perry’s motivation.

Yeah, but he is cool.

Liberal reactionaries. Unbelievable these primates racialize everything. These people are literally the lowest rung of society, they hate knowledge. Instead of it being a term of endearment to these humanities Ph.D’s, who actually think they’re smart, they have an incendiary agenda to enrage blacks against whites. And these LOSERS are WHITE LIBERALS. They hate knowledge and are proud of it. And they all hate their fathers. Recognize liberals, you’re the enemy within.

How cute, the Racial Socialists are projecting themselves onto others.

If they weren’t so busy doing that, they would’ve noticed that Rick Perry has called several candidates “brother” and called Mitt Romney “brother” during the same friggin’ debate.

What Perry was trying to do was mend a broken fence. What you’re trying to do is re-break it.

I am not a Perry fan, but this is just nonsense. I don’t think Perry was suggesting anything racial by calling him brother. I took it more as a friendly term. I not even sure why this is a story being discussed.

See comment to StonePark 3. I think Perry is not racist, but has a rather typical white Texan detachment from sensitivities developed in large parts of America above the Mason-Dixon line and between the midwest until one gets to California. The fact that you react this way to what StonePark 3 wrote shows yourself to be just as insensitive.

You can go anywhere in the world and find people calling people of not just their own skin tone but almost anyone male “brother”. West gets out and about and around the world. The good folks at Mediaite and some of their commenters, apparently not so much.

Calls Romney “sir” and Cain “brother”. Hmmmm.

He must have been coached not to call Cain “niggerhead”.

Don’t worry other than you no one watches cornell west other than people doing stories about the idiots att CNN

See how this has got twisted? Calling someone of another tribe “brother” is a sign of tolerance and acceptance – those are LIBERAL attitudes. And here you go again, trying to turn the thing completely around. No liberals are calling out Perry for this; it’s media types trying to roil up controversy and rightwingers trying to turn that controversy into something it’s not. What Perry did was a GOOD thing, albeit heavily tinged with politics; his doing it several times was to ensure people actually noticed, and as usual he wasn’t all that skilled at the execution. But I think that’s all down to the stage he’s on; put him on a Texas stage – one of these debates that remain no doubt will be in Texas – and you’ll find him calling Latinos, blacks, just about anyone male “brother”. Again, this stage awkwardness is foreign to Perry, almost as if he’s uncomfortable with the notion of winning the nomination, like he’s not at all sure he SHOULD be president. Romney is handling that vision the best, but even Gingrich and RoPaul would show a lot more nervousness if they figured themselves as serious threats. Note how much more nervous and ill-at-ease Herman Cain is becoming as the numbers make him think of the possibility.

The thing about 2008 was that neither of McCain or Hillary were in the least overwhelmed by the image of winning, because each him-her self the best candidate. Obama showed the nervousness then, though he certainly handled it well. He will NOT show that in 2012, though Romney still might – but not in this Republican crowd.

They insert racism into everything because they are all racists but I give them credit because I truly believe they feel guilty about being racists so much so there whole life revolves around there racism.
Its sort of like the Gay Dem sen that calls everyone gay but then gets caught having tickle fights with other men.

As if you’ve ever read a single thing Cornell West has written. We got your number, 3 – take a 1, stir in some 2, et voila: 3.

Not greater, and never will be. West is a public intellectual, brave as can be. Perry is brave so long as he’s in Texas. And racism has nothing to do with either judgment, though earned versus unearned social standing undoubtedly does.

When West takes a shower and does some personal grooming instead of having the grooming habits of Fred Sanford I will listen to what he has to say.But for now everytime I look at him I think of a pig wallowing in mud.

Actually, there is an awful lot of science showing that rightwingers, or ‘conservatives’ as they like to call themselves, have a difficult mindset that rejects anything that challenges preconceptions. You’d like to think we could screen for that, but apparently you’re stuck with it. Sorry, you poor bastid.

Exhibit A: poor rightwing bastid’s gone bonkers.

Like I’ve said, you righties have simple minds.  

I don’t think that’s so at all. Perry was a yell leader and is an Aggie, the type who go along to get along, and in Texas that can get you elected Governor. His ambitions were and have always been to be a politician; though it does not appear Obama’s ambitions were any different in this regard. Do you think Obama could have been elected a U.S. Senator from Texas, as he is? Do you think Perry could have been elected a U.S. Senator from Ilinois, with what he says and his baggage? Do you think Romney would have tried to get Romneycare passed if he was governor of some other state? Do you think Perry would be elected governor of South Carolina with the very same views on Latinos & immigrants he shows in Texas? 

When in Rome …

See, this is racism turned into a pretzel. I bet you’d even buy that in a Haagen Daz flavor.

Because if she’d got it right, in that he was, as a matter of established fact, a Hitlerjugend, that may have been worse.

yo Stoner he said “young peeps like you get pumped up by holler and word which will degrade the hood eventually”   Thats wats up b-arch.

Good one!!

Bull. Get out of your basement and take a trip to some other part of the world. I’ve heard it in every country I’ve ever been to, one tribee to a member of another tribe. You don’t even know Jack Squat.

It is not at all awkward, if said with sincerity. You’re projecting.

Projecting.

Comedy is different.

Yes he does, all the time. And you’re projecting.

the specific word is not so important as the condescending language in general.
“You know I love you, brother, but…” whatever follows will be an attack. The important psychology here is that Perry feels (not necessarily thinks) that he can be condescending to Cain but not the others.

This seems obvious because he only used it with Cain. (I am on shaky ground here. I did not know about the debate and did not watch it. So, if he called anybody else brother during the debate, please let me know.)

I let you decide whether this condescension is because Perry can’t help but be a little racist, or because Perry has less respect for Cain than the others. Perry obviously knows that Romney is smarter than he is, and he wouldn’t dare call Mrs. Bachmann sister because EVERYONE would see that as condescending, or at least being out of line.   

You’re aiming too low. Modern American mainstreammedia looks to promote controversy to boost ratings. Republicans are far from the only types in their sights, but they do provide an awfully inviting target with those red hunting suits and always calling out, Whawe is dat wascally wabbit. 

well said, well wriiten. Rex most of these young buck have learned little in the failed public schools. I dont even know if our politics line up…well played Sir.

Under Perry-style capitalism, the state is selling roadways, so the state is turning into a network of toll roads.

you need a kick in your satan ass

Don’t laugh that loud – after this is done, if Perry asked, I betcha Cain would go. Cain is an archetypical career crony capitalist.

This modern life is just a little too confusing for you, right Norbit?

Its been shown that Left’s like to reinvent the wheel even if its a bigger failure.  The study goes on further to state Left’s had too much mommy time and not enough daddy. The words “no” and “failed were never introduced thus inflating their delicate egos into a false superiority and arrogance.

Actually, that’s a good comparison. Reid is a Mormon from Utah, where the percentage of blacks is extremely small, and further if Reid ever was ‘hip’, he’s long past caring about such things. I doubt there’s a whole lot of difference between the attitudes of Reid and Perry on blacks; the differences are situational.

This is going to happen: someone is going to dig up and post a video showing Cain calling Perry “brother”. 

Projecting.

Projectile stupid taunting.

Projectile stupid taunting.

My liberal white friends spew on about racism.  So I asked “how many of you have ever had a black person in your house”.    Crickets, nothing but crickets.  Furthermore “how many of you have been in a black persons home”.  Crickets more crickets.  But their all for minority rights as long as its way , way , way over there.  Word.

Great point by Todd; Russert called everyone brother.

denial.

No, that’s not why …

No, that’s not why …

I once met this idiot who spelled the word ‘prize’ as “price”. Can’t quite recall his name; Tim something.

Does your mother know you talk like that in public?

“The important psychology here is that Perry feels (not necessarily
thinks) that he can be condescending to Cain but not the others.”

Meh, I don’t think it’s condescension as much as overcompensation.
When Perry says “I love you, brother..” it is because he is about to disagree with him and us Whites are deathly afraid that disagreeing with Blacks will be labeled racists.  So we immediately precede it with a caveat.

Let me give you a personal example….when I am in an elevator and someone is crossing the lobby I will not hold the door open for him.  Screw him.  Let him grab the next one.  I have notoriously bad elevator etiquette. lol
But if it is a Black person I will hold it open.  I don’t want him or anyone else thinking I’m racist!
I overcompensate.  It’s ridiculous, but true. 

As everyone from Bill O’Reilly to Curb Your Enthusiasm has noted, White people have trouble relating to Black people.

How does one, apply to the other?

Oh, he mending something but, it’s not fences.

Don’t you mean, failed government schools?

No, he was pandering! He thinks, by calling you brother before he attacks you, that somehow makes the attack civil, and gives him the high ground. A clever argumentations tool when used properly, and not used by a tool!

Another confused righty.  

This is ridiculous. Rick Perry says brother all the time.

Looks like all of the Bros (politicans) are getting just what they want you to do..act Ignorant and call each other names..like stupid race card  libs..right wingers who want nothing more than to have the “Brothers” back in the slave mode!! None of you are viable..what a bunch of BS you use your energy to spew!!!.

Makes sense to me. A lot of sense.
Even more so when everybody else was attacking Cain’s plan, and he had to join them.

Cain does deserve to be challenged on the plan. It is apples AND oranges. Romney’s answer to that was brilliant, except he should have said for some folks, it would be two bushel baskets of taxes.

1. Rick Perry is a lot of things, but him calling Cain “brother” is in no way racist. It’s a southern colloquialism (and, ironically, a prison one). My absolute certainty is that he meant it with affection and respect. (I also believe Cornell West addresses Bill-O, it is also with respect.

2, I say this progressive-leaning independent: when we make hay about the cosmetic battles, especially when there is no “there” there, we lose sight and undercut the real ones.

3. ClarkFL, if you can’t see your brand of conservativism is a siamese twin attached at the head to hypocrism, well then you’re either willfully ignorant or congenitally stupid.

*hypocrisy.  But i think you got the gist of it.

Tough guy, huh?

Good one!

But he was calling him brother Bill. Perry didn’t call Cain, brother Herb.

Shame on you Brooke and CNN trying to make it a racist comment. He says it all the time, here in Texas at all Christian churches they will address each other Brother Rick or whoever, he is use to that it’s a term of endearment or friendship he has known Cain for years closer then you know Cain is also a minister, Cain knew exactly what he meant. Shameful people try to make a racist word here. Typical libs and CNN. Sickening. Brooke you look like a fool here. Lol

Both from the South, so I see the ‘brother’ connection. 

Well, people. Is Tony correct?
Who else saw Perry call Mitt Romney brother?

I would be racist if I left Cain alone, afraid to hurt his feelings.

Except for the campaign adviser, I would agree. No adviser with any sanity would recommend what Perry did.

You think he could have called Mrs. Bachmann “sister?”
No way!
He would be dead politically the moment he said it.
This proves you didn’t watch the debate and you are a liar.
Try to clean up your act.

you missed my point almost entirely. Did you read my post up above about perry calling him brother to be affectionate and respectful? I was pointing out hypocrisy on the left as well. I dont care if Cornell calls anyone brother or Perry. Im just sick of whiny liberals making hay out of it but only for Conservatives. BTW, you know nothing about my brand of Conservatism. You don’t even know me so don’t assume anything.

To all you republicans:

Honestly, do you think it was smart of Perry to call Cain and ONLY Cain brother after the allegations that have been put forth, EVEN if he meant it in a non-racial way?  If you were Perry’s PR person and you saw the script of what was about to be said before he said it, would you have scratched that word off or just left it there?

The problem is not the word “Brother.”  The problem is that Perry only uses this term with Cain.  He also never used it until the revelation of his ranch name was made public.  West calls EVERYONE “Brother.”

Rick Perry is a huge phony.  Living here in Texas, I’ve watched him latch onto the “hot topic” for years.  Perry was never super out front with his religion until this year.  Now he has his Jesuspalooza.  Perry was never this huge anti-government guy until the Tea-Party became popular.  Perry was never Cain’s “brother” until he felt he needed to kiss the black man’s ass for damage control.

You’re over simplistic here.  Perry is a white guy, recently busted for having a ranch called “Niggerhead”, saying this ONLY to the black guy.  Don’t give me this “it’s how he talks” bs.  Find me a video where he’s ever said this.

West is a black guy that says this to EVERYONE including white guys.

There’s a big difference. 

This was stupidity more than racism on Perry’s part and CS on Cain’s part for not doing anything. Almost all white’s that try to talk like a black sound stupid and that’s what Perry did. Made a idiot out of himself. I guess Perry could’ve done worse for himself by saying “Brotha’ Cain, my nigga.” hahahaha

Cain should have slapped him silly, at least replied,”I’m not your “brother”.

No doubt it’s some kind of weird play for his supporters, when he inevitably bows out.  Is it condescending?  Of course.

To state the obvious: he didn’t call Willard “brother”, or any of the other candidates.  Feel free to keep “spewing”, though.

if i was perry’s campaign manager and i realized he’s only in the race because his wife nagged him to do it and he really doesn’t want the job, i’d tell him to do the following in order to sabotage his campaign right out the gate:

1.  do no debate prep whatsoever.
2.  float ridiculous propositions such as free tuition for illegal aliens.
3.  dredge up thoroughly debunked accusations against your opponents. 
4.  flaunt your texas swagger, especially in blue states.

based on the campaigns i’ve seen on both sides of the aisle for the last several election cycles, it’s difficult for me to believe anyone really wants the job…  i guess both gore and mccain dodged bullets there, eh?…

well, sean, the little frog, calls men on his idiotic show “brother”, and many look like they don’t like it so much. . .I guess its a conservative scripted wingnut thing.

Baptists call each other “Brother” — always have.

Baptists call each other “Brother” — always have.