I guess a broken, paranoid, alcoholic clock can be right twice a day.

“That’s Gold, Jerry! Gold! “

Cue in the Teabillies

Poor little baggers scratching their heads now.

Poor things just don’t know what trainwreck to board next .

CAIN2012 and beyond :0

Here we go again. Glenn playing the race card.

I still don’t understand why Glenn Beck does not support Ron Paul :/

There it is.  The Teabagger King confessing that the Tea Party is a racist hate group.

Oops.

legalizing drugs, isolation in foreign affairs. those are no no’s for beck

Too funny, Beck’s playing the race card against the group that made him a celebrity. Just when you thought the GOP race become anymore surreal and ridiculous.

Glenn Beck framing attempt: If you vote for Newt, you vote for Obama.

Also there is the matter of these guys as human being. Newt is an excuse for a human whereas, whatever you may think of him as president, is an even tepmpered family man.

Also there is the matter of these guys as human being. Newt is an excuse for a human whereas, whatever you may think of him as president, is an even tepmpered family man.

Thank’s Glenn Keep us informed. I hope he won’t tell us he’s gone back to being an alcoholic or being a junkie. 

How many heads are exploding right now? After being told by their Messiah for so long that they aren’t racists and it was the dreaded liberals that were. Beautiful, absolutely beautiful.

Of-course its about Race you dumbo. Bush turned a surplus into a deficit and they didn’t protest, not even once. Suddenly a mix race dark looking guy showed up and we see the phonies called the tea parties. 

I have never seen a teabagger disagree with anything Glenn Beck has said, so I can assume they will agree with him in this instance.

Where’s Michelle? She must really be feeling the pain in this. Does she agree with him or disagree with him. Hey Michelle, just flip a coin.

I keep waiting for the Beck Restoring Sanity moderated debate forum.    

Oh, yeah. . . 

I’m thinking that most conservatives can think for themselves & don’t need a media messiah.  

She and the state of Utah are hiding. If Mitt finds a way to pull out the nomination, they will show their heads again.

The “teas” know, what should have been a walk-away election, won’t be!

“…it must be about race.” -Glenn

He knows this well.  Glenn himself worked to build the racial divide that separates a portion of the citizens from Obama.  Glenn’s newfound awareness smacks of something potentially interesting… a great (personal) awakening that mainstreams him for his own leap to office?  

Hey Teabaggers,

You can’t be a small government type and a big military industrial complex type at the same time.

Glenn is right — no self respecting tea partier who was on board in 2007 for the first rallies that were about TARP, bailouts, Patriot Act, IRS, FED, taxes, deficits and undeclared WARS would EVER be for Newt. It must be the dumb public newbies to politics who can’t remember his abysmal record and lies

I agree not much difference between the two!

WTF !!!!….ha….you dumbasses pay what??…$5.95 a month to access that paywall to GBTV just so you can hear this conspiracy theory, batshit crazy alcholic piece of shit glen beck call all of you a bunch of crossburning, gadson flag flying, backwoods living, gun toting, bible slangin,praying everywhere cept a churchin,obama hating racists???….hehehehehehehe…YOU DESERVE IT….by the way hobbits….the subscription fee is NON REFUNDABLE

tell us something we don’t know already Mr Beck. Everyone and their mama knows the teabaggers are a bunch of racist bigots who hate black people

True statements like that are better presented without insults. :)

I only agree that Newt would be just as progressive as Obama.

 They won’t care if Romney is the nominee.. he can’t beat Obama…

WOW! cue the pigs flying over the moon! 

Don’t get much better than this.  Beck and the Judge, and by default their audience, are validating everything the left has been saying about the TP from the beginning. 

They are a bunch of old white folks clinging to their God, their guns, and their gubment checks of course, while screaming at the black guy in the WH.  And not really knowing why they’re screaming but Glenn, the people at their beloved FOX News, Rush and the rest of the conservative radio monopoly said that’s what’s expected. 

Then they call the left lemmings.  OH, BOY, don’t get much better than this…..

Leave Limbaugh out of this…

Can you give us an example?

The Clinton surplus is a myth.  Any purported decrease in the deficit was paid for through intra-governmental holdings, namely from Social Security.

My but you guys are hateful… Too bad you’re also misinformed.

Even Beck agrees the tea party is racists.

Your interpretation?

Thanks for stating the obvious, Beck.  The vast majority of Americans have known for a looooooong time that Teabaggers are mostly old, white, hillbilly racists.  Thanks for the news flash.

rent free

i think beck has mixed race up with party. remember, gingrich didn’t earn the lead until herman cain dropped out

any mirrors in your hovel?

Wow, Joelgp, you obviously didn’t even read the article. he never said that. And you are all such hate-filled people repeating what you’ve been told is true, without ever once listening to Glenn beck.  He’s never once preached any kind of “hate-speech”, certainly not compared to the hate speech his detractors baselessly use against him themselves.  And despite calling him a liar/conspiracy theorist, no one’s been able to disprove a single thing he’s put forth as fact so they stoop to making personal attacks since the can’t refute his facts or his logic.

Seriously. Did I just wake up on a bizarro planet?? I just hear Beck say that the GOP is pushing for Gingrich?????

How delusional are the tea party guys? Can you people really not recognize that this is doublespeak?

Let me be the first to just call everyone of the planet a RINO and be done with it.

 That Beck is using hyperbole to make the point that there is essentially no difference between Gingrich and the president other than their melanin level..

“Let me be the first to just call everyone of the planet a RINO and be done with it.”

So very glad you did!

Get that? It would “kill” hyper-Mormon Beck to vote for establishment-Mormon Romney. 

Right.Note the absence of approval by hyper-Mormon Beck for any OTHER Republican candidate; that it would “kill” Beck to ‘have to’ vote for Romney is actually an indication of APPROVAL,meaning it would do far, far worse to him to have to vote for any other Republican candidate.What could be worse than to be “killed” due to CHOOSING to vote for a particular candidate?He doesn’t say – a typical Beck device, of leaving it to the personal fears and imaginations of the listeners to decide as what fate to each of THEM is ‘worse than death’. This way Beck retains the ability to complain about Romney if the tide of public approval turns against Romney; Romney could even be elected president, and do something so appallingly stupid as to bring America to an earthy hell – like dropping nukes on Iran, which would turn the entire world against the US and Israel – and Beck could STILL say: Hey, look, I was on record saying it would KILL me to vote for Romney.The fact that hyper-Mormon Beck would indicate support for establishment-Mormon Romney qualifies for consideration as the least surprising celebrity endorsement of a candidate we are going to see over the year to come.

And meanwhile:

- Romney is taking the exact same position as Beck is asserting here;
and
- Ron Paul is saying a vote for Romney is indistinguishable from a vote for Obama.

Here’s the deal: a vote for Obama is materially different from a vote for ANY of the Republican candidates.

I didn’t say ‘conservatives’. I was talking specifically about Tea Party Beck followers.

I am at a loss for words.  My head hurts and I am confused.  Trump, Newt, Beck… oh my.

Actually, by his reasoning that there is NO difference between Pres. Obama and Newt Gingrich, Beck would also be arguing that people voting for Obama rather than Gingrich are also doing so because of skin color.

“there is essentially no difference between Gingrich and the president”
Nate Silver handles this well.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/gingrichs-unimpeachable-conservative-credential/
“Beck is using hyperbole to make the point”
He still chose hyperbole that describes his own commercial constituency as driven by racial prejudice… a fascinating fact. 

Too funny.  The vile liberal pukes hate everything about Beck……..until he agrees with them.  Such hypocrites.  

I have never seen a liberal/leftist agree with anything that Beck says so I can assume they will disagree with him in this instance.

It think that was sarcasm buddy. ;)

Not too fascinating when you consider that there isn’t a lot contrasts to make here other than the most obvious.  They’re both men.  They’re both politicians.  They’re both running for office. 

Beck naturally goes to the most obvious (and hyperbolic) difference in order to forcefully challenge people to examine Gingrich and see (as Beck believes) that he is a progressive. 

Beck isn’t making a point about racism, he’s saying don’t be fooled by stealth politics.

GOS?? Is that you?? :OP

I would vote for any Republican over anyone in the Democratic Party and it isn’t because of race.  Glenn Beck should be ashamed of himself.  I cannot believe he would say such a thing about the very people who have backed him all these years.  Glenn your comment is the very essence of disgrace and it sickens me.  The Democratic Party has become the New Communist Party and you may stand behind them Mr. Beck but not me.

OMG! The out-of-nowhere race rard!

That’s just politics. You hate Jon Stewart until he makes fun of Obama.

LMAO!!! glen beck calling you a racist.

LMAO!!! It must be really embarrassing to be a republican.

He literally did make a point based on race. Not sure how you can disappear that fact so easily.

The Bozo admits he is all BS on website……glennbecktv-The FUSION of ENTERTAINMENT and Enlightment………Is he comparing himself to Jon Stewart????? Really????!!!

Mary I take no offense at your anti-Democratic rant, but you must truly feel betrayed by all the nut jobs that are on the Rupublicant ticket.  I sympathize with your hurt.  Not!

For those of you who believe that President Obama’s second term is a “sure thing”, you might want to look at the latest CBS poll: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57340576-503544/grim-economic-outlook-weighs-down-obama-approval-rating/

Does President Obama deserve to be re-elected?

Overall
Yes: 41%
No: 54%

Repubs (no surprise here)
Yes: 7%
No: 91%

Dems (almost 20% say no??!!)
Yes: 77%
No: 19%

Independents (this is the group who elected him in 08′)
Yes: 37%
No: 55%

The 2012 election is going to come down to how the independent vote swings. As it stands right now, it does’t look like a “sure thing” at all.

You may now proceed with your spin, and bomb throwing…

Now that’s spin!

Charlie Rangel – 11 Ethics Violations

Fox News: “He Belongs in Jail”

Newt Gingrich – 84 Ethics Violations

Fox News: “He Belongs in The White House”

I havent ignored that fact at all. I’ve merely put it into context.

Say Claire McCaskill and Suaan Collins were running against each other. I admonished Tea Party people that there was essentially no difference between these two people– “so it you vote for McCaskill over Collins, it must because she’s prettier and her breasts are bigger… because that’s the only difference here, folks..,” am I really making a point about bias based upon sexist aesthetics, or am I saying these are two spoiled peas in a pod?…

Baaaaaahhaaaawwwaaahhhaaaaaaaahhahooeeeeeeehhooooooohooabwwaaahaaaaa—- stop!! I can’t breathe!!!  Haahaaahaaaabbwaaahoohoooohoooaaaaaa– it’s too much!

The Republican Party has moved so far right that they don’t even like themselves.

I LOVE GLENN BECK BUT THAT STATEMENT BOTHERED ME! Glenn is just plain wrong, I am a Tea Party Girl and I know he was trying to make a point that Newt is no better than Obama but that went WAY TO FAR. Conservatives just want something to change from the horror that is Obama and Newt seems like a good option given the bad field. We are finding out that we will be making a mistake if we vote for Newt but that was a far fetched idea that it makes us RACIST…..Rediculous!

What
idiots! I was wondering how the Iranians snatched one of our super
secret stealth drones. Apparently the Chinese make all of our semi
conductors and they simply put in a back door hardware access to
commandeer the drone. The top people who have China making military
parts should be shot! Veterans Today has an excellent explanation of
this treason or at least massive incompetence. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/12/10/the-great-chinese-iranian-stealth-reconnaissance-drone-theft-caper/
The Great Chinese-Iranian Stealth Reconnaissance Drone Theft Caper http://www.veteranstoday.comThe
stakes just went up, again. Being in the armed forces of any country,
at any time, has always been a hazardous occupation, but thanks to the
gross incompetence, malfeasance and short sightedness of our current and
former elected officials it just became much, much, deadlier to be a US
Serviceman…
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Daniel Patterson likes this.Tomas Estrada-Palma Apparently
we are about to go to against Iran and all of our high tech weaponry
has backdoor hardware entry that allows the Iranians, Russians, Chinese
to commandeer the device and turn it on our sitting duck troops. We
CANNOT go to war with any of these nations until we return the
manufacturing of our military hardware back to the good old USA. This is
total madness and if you support the troops please spread the word
before they get wiped out!

Gingrich, Gore and Clinton sold out our military and now wants them at war with Chinese weapons.

This is typical for Beck.

Black or White, anyone who doesn’t agree with him is racist.

It’s all he’s got.

How does it feel to have your own weapon turned against you, teabaggers?

Talk about being off teleprompter

” I am a Tea Party Girl and I know he was trying to make a point that Newt is no better than Obama but that went WAY TO FAR.”

Beck is just trying to use Child Psychology on you idiots.

He doesn’t have a very high opinion of you.

Actually Gingrich Obama and Romney differ from Paul on key issues like the economy and foreign policy. So if it comes down to Obama and Romney, it doesn’t matter because they will generally do the same thing just as Obama being Bush’s third term.

I still hate Glenn Beckkk, but it is absolutely hilarious to see all of your tiny little heads exploding.

Not really.  Glenn Beck brought up the subject, and Corey’n'Trevor shed a bit more light on the topic.

Beck says Gingrich is a progressive?
LOL He really does live on Bizarro Earth, doesn’t he?
In any case, let him criticize away and depress GOP turnout.

but again, why didn’t the baggers protest in the Boosh years, especially when Dick Cheney was going around saying, “deficits don’t matter?”

is that how you are living Jeffy?

Actually, George Bush’s spending WAS the impetus for the Tea Party.  We just needed the Rick Santelli rant to put a face and name to it.  During Bush’s last 2 or so years, I called my reps offices so often that some knew my voice and they all knew my name. 

any mirrors in you horse fluffing parlor Jeffy?

This guy has apparently been missing the limelight.

And I have missed him in it.

Um….except for the fact that Rangel was convicted of all but one of the 12 counts against him. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/16/rangel-found-to-have-violated-multiple-ethics-rules/

Newt on the other hand was sanctioned on only one of the 84 politically-motivated charges against him.

The difference between the two; Newt resigned, while Rangel unashamedly stayed in office.

Wow. Sorry, but this is sort of ignorant. It’s no different from the teabaggers who said or continue to say Obama was only elected because of his race. You can make the partisan argument, but race? Come on. 

Damned racist Independents!
If only Obama can convince them that rich people are evil!

he is of course running against the weakest republican candidates since barry goldwater but continue. 

Yeah, because refraining from blowing the shit out of other countries for 4 or 8 years is just too horrible an option to contemplate.

Maybe he’s heated up a couple brain cells enough to figure out that Newt is a douchebag, doesn’t mean Beck isn’t STILL a douchebag.

A vote for Romney is a vote for the unknown.  Nobody really knows what that man stands for and we won’t find out until he’s elected.  Then it’ll be too late.  Right now, he’s just molding himself to be whatever he thinks people wants.  Unfortunately for Mitt, what NOBODY wants is a plastic malleable candidate.

Did you not read the following article?

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/charles-krauthammer-in-order-to-win-gop-needs-a-candidate-who-is-as-generic-as-possible/

There is no spin needed. Just common sense.

I think to a certain extent you could make an argument that Barack Obama was elected because of his race.

The country was ready to break the race barrier and elect an African-American to the Presidency. Politics aside, It was good to see. I think many Americans, even those who didn’t vote for him were encouraged on Inauguration Day when he was sworn-in.

According to CNN exit polls Obama received a historic 95% of the black vote as compared to 90% that voted for Gore in 2000, or 88% that voted for Kerry in 2004.

Exactly he resigned in guilt and republicans still support him.  GOP needs new candidates, the GOP is not the party of Reagan anymore.

I read the article, but what does that have to do with the CBS poll?

Sorry Glenn, but none of these candidates are ever going to fit your standards. There was only one George Washington.

Weakness is relative. Obama cannot run on his record, so he will have to run against whomever his opponent shall be.

Obama, the incumbent candidate is not nearly as strong as he was in 2008. 

In 2008 the country voted for anything that wasn’t Bush. In 2012 the country may go the same way; anything that isn’t Obama.

This from the NYT was an interesting read: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/09/the-real-g-o-p-dark-horse-none-of-the-above/

“Beck isn’t making a point about racism, he’s saying don’t be fooled by stealth politics.”

Cecilia is an expert on what people intended.
After all, she is the one who swore O’Reilly never intended to jab an umbrella at a guy, that the wind took it.

I can’t help you with reading comprehension, or lack thereof.

Perhaps you could answer my question instead of throwing insults?

Isn’t TVNewser your preferred blog?

P.S.
I own Fokker Aerostructures, but I am not involved with the day to day operations.

Most conservatives CAN think for themselves, they think whatever Limbaugh  tells them to think.

Tony:  I see your point but as much as most of the right doesn’t like Stewart (I happen to think he’s funny) he doesn’t get the absolutely vile hatred from the right that Beck gets from the left.  And if you look back at my prior posts you will see that I have always said that Beck was a nut.  Not just when I disagree with him.

Henry Henry Henry………what can I say?  You just don’t seem like  you would be capable of a rational conversation.    

TVN got real boring after a while. Got busy with work (Gulfstream Captain) and stayed away. I saw some of the old TVN folks on Mediaite and decided to hang here. This place is much more of challenge than TVN in the sense that it isn’t 7-2 (Cons to Libs).

Glenn Beck is an idiot scumbag, BUT even an idiot scumbag can be right every once in a rare while.

A sizable chunk of the Tea Party, if not all of them, are racist dirtbags who hate Obama because of the color of his skin.

Vote Democrat
The Republicans’ destructive social policies ENSURE there will be UNESCESSARRY SUFFERING AND DEATH.

The Republicans dehumanize their victims like rapists, and use evil social policy to callously murder the non-rich.

The Republicans know this, and actively CHOOSE to cause UNESCESSARRY SUFFERING AND DEATH.

A vote for the Republican party might as well be rape and murder by proxy.

The Democrats on the other hand have made good on some of their promises despite Republican barriers, and continue to advocate for the middle/poor classes against the Republicans’ wishes. 

VOTE DEMOCRAT!

There is no insult in that true statement, teabaggers named themselves teabaggers and can’t blame anyone because they didn’t know what it actually meant.

We;;. far be it from me to get in the way of meme building about brutal umbrella attacks and Beck’s admission that the Tea Party folks are a bunch of racists, but please show me where I swore anything about O’Reilly.

I know the possibility that O’Reilly is telling the truth about the whole thing being unintentional isn’t as fun as accusing him of lying. Just as I know that any context to Beck’s remark (which works against Obama voters as well, in a Gingrich vs Obama scenario)is just me being a party pooper.

Have at it.

Stewart doesn’t sell himself as martyr the way Beck does.

The ratio of cons to libs is usually higher at Mediate, but many are disgusted with the current Republican field, so they are keeping a low profile.

I disagree that the TP is racist (and hate the teabagger name), but sitll find this comment awesome somehow

ok…sounds good to me but can  you give specifics?  

and it’s not embarrassing to be a dem these days?  Oh Pllleeeaaassseeeee.  Heard today that BHO let the drone slip into Iranian hands because he didn’t want to destroy it for fear that the Iranians would get a little upset.  So now they have the drone b/c BHO had no guts.

I thought Henry Wood was referring to Beck, not me… but who knows.

I guess the attention- and and money- isn’t rolling in like it used to.

Yo Glenn…can’t be about race dude…Obama is the only racist in here, remember?
Remember that “deep seated hatred for white people,or white culture,I dunno what it is…” sheet, dude?..Sup with your logic, Glenn?..Forgot about the “race baiting” argument you like so much?

Sup with that?…Can’t have it both ways, dude.

That is all.

I’m so enjoying the cast of clowns in this never ending circus… past the popcorn and peanuts

The Clinton surplus budget was not a myth.    

“I know the possibility that O’Reilly is telling the truth about the whole thing being unintentional isn’t as fun as accusing him of lying”

Ummm…O’Reilly admitted he used the umbrella intentionally as a “weapon” because he felt threatened.

What you saw was a product of your own delusions and bias.

I love these posts. Lets me know that insanity is GROWING.. LOL

GOP = Guaranteed Obama Presidency

Hmmm…similar to what they said about the Philadelphia Eagles in pre-season. :OP

It just fries Beck that Theodore Roosevelt, one of our most fondly remembered Presidents and the only republican POTUS to win the Nobel Peace Prize, was a progressive.

FINALLY….after almost four years of Obama bashing….Glenn Beck has seen the light and realizes what the tea party, which he partially created, are really about.

And my peoples will vote for me again.
Yes we can!! (fuk-up the country worse than it already is)

Beck has lost his mind.

The United Kingdom of Asian Africans
will replace obsolete governments. It will be installed by an invasion of 5
hundred million Chinese settlers. Some will call it Neo-Colonialism but most
will call it progress.

Yeah, the tea party establishment supporting Gingrich is the ultimate hypocrisy, but these people were ever honest to begin with.  Bring a burning cross to your next tea party rally, cause it’s the Obama hate that drives the Tea Baggers.

9-9-9 ? You must be a Herman Cain supporter!!

Do you type with both hands or….

Bravo -Bravo!!!
That’s the cheer that will lead the independent voters to your side.

Just curious, how long has it been since your last shock therapy session?

Proud to be a Liberal. Yesiree Bob these are exciting times to be a Progressive!!

Teddy had a big stick like me. Now get down on yo knees and service it!

And you liberals constantly declare that Beck has no credibility and ought to be silenced. That is until he says something you agree with, though. Hypocrite. 

I’m willing to give the pre-Obama tea party founders the benefit of the doubt and say that they were politically diverse and economically fiscal bell-ringers. As soon as the tea party became vehemently anti-Obama while ignoring all else is when most people said, “Wait a minute.”

I’m inclined to agree with the authors of the tea party study who were on The Rachel Maddow Show this last Friday night who said that most of the tea party is made up of old, white conservatives who all believe that they earned and deserve their federal programs like Social Security and Medicare but despise the younger generation’s use of federal programs like student loans, unemployment insurance, Welfare, and Medicaid … even though both generations would likely agree about the need for government oversight, corporate regulation and equal enforcement of the laws.

It just goes to show you that the tea party people care more about how someone looks (the medium) than what they might agree with (the message). Ah, Marshall McLuhan … how right you were.

I do think that the original intent for the tea party was for fiscal conservationism and low taxes and I agree with that. The attacks on the president by the tea party is where that stops…questioning and attacking his background, his religion, his patronage to the USA, I strongly disagree.

Newt Gingrich’s popularity by the tea party seems to be an extreme slap on the face to established Republicans…to show us something…what I don’t know. 

If it continues and Newt wins the GOP nomination it will guarantee a win by president Obama in 2012.  If that’s the way they want it so be it.

nein…the old tattered leftist race card ploy is out, worn out and just immature…get a life.

No, O’Reilly said he used the umbrella as a shield because the guy was running up to him.

O’Reilly told Jay Leno that as he put up the umbrealla, the guy ran into it.

Here you are accusing a man of intentional assault and you don’t even what he’s said.

I hate Obama but love Herman Cain, so explain to me how I’m a racist? To a racist a negro is a negro no matter where he stands, to me, you’re either a goddamm liberal or a good conservative or libertarian. As for Gingrich, at least he loves America, has experience in government, wants to cut government spending, and does not apologize for America’s “mistakes.” That’s good enough for me.

To me the choice is simple, we either vote for the blame the rich party or the work hard and become rich yourself party. In my case, I’m voting Republican no matter what. 
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

Beck has emphatically stated that although he does not endorse candidates, his choice for president rests squarely on Bachmann. He also told her, he could easily change his support,  if she failed to live up to her conservative stand and principles.

His second choice would be Santorum.

Did you NOT get the sarcasm in Beck’s remark? Liberals have no sense of humor!

Maybe you need to take the Scaroborough test.
: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/69231_Page2.html#ixzz1fdcTZUXM

Bill Clinton’s IRS cleared him on the one remaining charge….once again the facts don’t match the liberals wet dreams.

Me think you STUPID.

Yeah, Bill actually used the word weapon on his show, but either way you were wrong to say it was caused accidentally by the wind, given your vast umbrella experience.

That’s ok. I never expect a Righty to admit they were wrong, even when the person they were sticking up for disagrees with them.

So true..

Out of curiosity, why do you think it’s hypocritical for people to agree with people they don’t like?

You’re a fokken liar.

The rest of the GLOBE really wants to know, “are you kidding me”, reality T.V. at it’s best, “The GOP Race”

Kudos to Glenn Beck for speaking the truth.  Now, can somebody check to see if hell has frozen over.  

He did lie about Obama being a big spending Liberal.  And the one about Newt and Obama being similar.  So maybe things haven’t changed.  

The impetus for the Tea Klan was the black president.

“Playing the race card” is the handy phrase right-wing conservatives use to shut down legitimate accusations of racism. The race card is a powerful card when it fits, and it definitely fits teabaggers.

You can also tell how racist someone is by how strenuously they deny it.

First of all, Bill O’Reilly has been generally supportive of Newt in recent weeks, clearly favoring him over Romney. But on Friday’s show he took an undeniable turn. He took issue with N.G.’s electability when debating a guest.

Then this Glenn Beck interview gets wide distribution on the Internet suggesting that Gingrich is a RINO, or worse.

Not a very good Friday for Newt Gingrich and his ties to the Fox News media (past and present).
 
Could his lead in the polls start to shrink next week?

O’Reilly has denied hitting the man intentionally. How does that disagree with my position that his denial is plausible?

It’s just not that apparent from the video and with that the default position SHOULD be that it was an accident no matter what the politics of whoever is involved.

Frankly, I DO expect liberals to admit when they’re wrong. Especially when it’s merely the POSSIBILITY that they are wrong.

I’ll leave the blanket characterizations of opponents and the tenuous meme building to you.

It is a Mormon thing.  Glenn Beck (a Mormon) is lying and smearing and trying to bring down the one person who is going to beat R.I.N.O. Romney (also Mormon).  These people want and Mormon in the White House real bad.  Don’t listen to the lies.  There is an an alterior motive going on here.

There’s only one thing to say about that.

Nobody’s demonizing Stewart.

The Tea Party made Beck a celebrity? On what planet?

They’re both narcissists.

I’d say you’re incapable of comprehension. Or, you didn’t bother to listen to the clip. And, you’re assuming that the Tea Party will line up behind Gingrich. And you’ve decided that Beck is anyone’s Messiah and that he’s told anyone that they’re not a racist.

All in all, I think you’re deeply confused by the sea of bullshit in your skull.  

You mean the Gingrich surplus? He passed the budgets.

not good

What portion of the citizens? The people who get bitter and cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who
aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a
way to explain their frustrations? Typical white grannies?

I think Obama took care of alienating them himself.

National defense is one of the enumerated powers, things the government is supposed to be doing, Constitutionally speaking. Try again.

I applaud the Mediaite writers or actually finding this clip of Beck and the Judge, because based on their ratings, no one watches the Fox Business Network… it has been a NewsCorp. failure!! Lol!!

Wait, didn’t liberals say Beck was fired from Fox?? What is he doing back on the channel every time we turn around? Yea, “they” must “really” not want him on the air over there……rigggghhhht!

TRUTH HAS NO AGENDA!!!!!

Wait, didn’t liberals say Beck was fired from Fox? How many people do you know who were fired from a place come back so often?????

GB playing the race card? Who knew he was a lib?

STFU . . . Get a reality check. Libs dominate comedy BECAUSE they’re funny. When Rush Limbaugh and Dennis Miller sell out auditoriums you can make that claim you tea baggin’ dummie.

As is “promoting the general welfare” which is what you fail to acknowledge asshat.

I responded to a comment that the left hates Beck more than the right hates Stewart.

Is Glenn Beck back on the sauce again? The man is unstable, every week he is backing a different candidate, now he is for Obama. The manis delusionable.

Delusional, yes.  Beck is right though (this week only).

Stupid is as stupid does…

That’s the problem with entitlements. You’re against other people getting them, but will fight to the death to keep the ones you get.

Glennie The Pooh..is he still crying on air..or is that old hat for him now?

Ahhh Glenn Beck again….  Still out there on the fringe giving right wing extremist blow jobs to anyone willing to pull down their pants and turn on the Fox fake news channel.

Tea baggers don’t care about facts. The media is saying Newt is the biggest threat to Obama so of course they love Newt.

Tea baggers don’t care about facts. The media is saying Newt is the biggest threat to Obama so of course they love Newt.

Dennis Miller was funny when he was still a liberal. 

That doesn’t mean being conservative is correlated with being not funny, though. I think it was the shock of 9/11 that made Dennis both a conservative and less funny.

the progressive left is anti-American and should be destroyed.  It has nothing to do with Beck.  You people are horseshit, and deserve to be thrown in prison you baby killers.

I don’t kill babies. I kill fetuses. Two different things bro-sef.

Beck is such an ass clown. I love his fake crying overwrought antics. He plays you rubes like a fiddle and you sop it up. He is an embarrassment to any true conservative.

Call it whatever you want, it’s still destroying a life or potential life. God grants the life you destroy.

Remember his little tea party rally?  Now he saying things against them? 

I thought you filthy slime bags hated reagan!

He’s an opportunist and a phony. He’s smart alright. He has fooled a lot of people. It’s a scam.

With morons like Beck and Napolitano on our side, yes, I begin to wonder. With the trillions he stole, the Keynesian Kenyan Kannibal Mau Mau Bam Bam can purchase a lot of assholes!

Beck and Napolitano complaining about the movement they fomented for two years. How pricelessly ironic is THIS???

Only three posts at this bastion of discourse? Naturally I am suspect!  Soros is no secret. Beck is a panderer to the weak minded (conspiracy theorist) type. Not everything you don’t like (or understand) is a plot. But it sure sells to the masses. and he takes full advantage of the stupidity that is out there.

That would be general welfare of the country, not isolated individuals or groups, the country as a whole, study up:

http://www.lawandliberty.org/genwel.htm

Obviously OOPCH you have been pulled into Beck’s conspiracies theories and you’re a true believer in what he says.   He now has 1/10 the number of viewers he had at FOX.  On of Beck’s favorite villian is Soros who he treats as some type of evil figure trying to take over control of the world, but what he doesn’t acknowledge or want you to know is Soros gives his money charities that help the down trodden, while the Koch Brothers only donate to organizations that help their businesses.  

In addition, you appear to have taken up Beck’s method of creating conspiracies by questioning if Obama took out Bin Ladin or not.  Why don’t you prove to us that he didn’t,  since your the one who’s questioning the matter.  Or maybe you want to take up Hannity’s ridiculous position that Bush is the one who is responsible for taking out Bin Ladin, even though he dropped the hunt 6 months after 9-11.  See the video of Bush declaring Bin Laden didn’t seem to be in charge of any terrorist organization 

I saw Beck’s interview with Newt and everyone should go back and see it to put what Beck nows says in perspective.  Beck was practically speechless during the interview and was completely incapable of countering anything Newt said during the interview.  In fact, Beck appeared to be agreeing with Newt and offered little to counter Newt.  To hear Beck’s outrage now over what Newt said and how he puts most of it out of context is particularly telling of both Beck and Napolinto.  It appears that this interview was completely scripted with a goal in mind beforehand.   I’ll bet Newt is completely puzzled over what Beck has said and we’ll not hear do another interview with Beck ever again.  This should be a warning for all of the Republican candidates about doing an interview with Beck.  I’m also not a fan of either Beck or Newt. 

I miss the Republican Party of yesterday. Right now it seems like a bunch of whiney, self-absorbed, self-righteous flip-floppers who do not understand how the world works but are still able to survive and financially thrive by appealing to factions that are spoonfed nonsense designed to keep them from thinking. 

I miss Bob Dole. I miss Bush41. I miss Gerald Ford. Heck, I miss Nixon.  

That portion exists, with sense despite their affections. Beck is at war with them with his distortions.

 Beck’s agent is anxiously waiting for phone calls.

I always thought Gerry Ford was really decent guy – Also telling that he never intended to be president, got tossed into it by circumstance.

All Glenn Beck has done is just give the Libtards ammo against the
republicans and tea party for the general election. Run the video again
and really listen to him. Also, he says he is one step above Ron Paul
with the exception on Israel. Glenn is loosing it!

Additionally, here is the sad part; Glenn Beck is calling Rick Santorum a liar.
Here is Rick Santorum;
”Back
in the late 80s I listened to Newt and his tapes and that helped me in
me decisions to run for congress and I adopted (Newt’s Conservative
Ideals)”…..story story story….I stuck by the Conservative
principles that Newt outline in the late 80s and he (Newt) has always
served me well and I have been a Consistant Conservative since”

to paraphrase;
”Newt
Gingrich is the man that taught me to be a Conservative…Newt is the
man I admire and made me the Conservative I am today…” at the end of
last nights Republican debate.

Lastly, Glenn Becks bases his
arguement is ”guilty by association” which is nothing but a strawman.
It is really exposing the bais that Glenn Beck has and makes him look
like a hypocrite since he is the one that expouses ”malace toward no
one”. I got news for you Glenn Beck, as a republican that is wrongful
intention one of the foundations of malice so you have just made
yourself a HYPOCRITE!

But lets break down Glenn’s ”guilt by
association” arguement and apply it another way. So, simply put
because Newt liked early TR as a trust busting, child labor law,
workplace saftey standards, evironmentalism friendly policy, FDA
supposting Republican, long before TR made his Progressivism speech and
went Bull Moose, by that association; Newt is a Progressive….
ridiculous!

Why? Because on that bases, President Reagan could be labeled a progressive as well.
Yep!
you guessed it….President Ronald Reagan is a progressive under the
Glenn Beck arguement plan. Why, because President Reagan based alot of
his campaign and Presidential policies had their origins based on FDR.

President
Reagan was fond of quoting FDR and agreed with some of his policies and
decisions. Therefore, based on the Glenn Beck model President Reagan
was a Progressive…. again, RIDICULOUS. Glenn, your argument is weak
and malicious just like the ”guilt by association” arguement on
Reagan!!!!

Google ”the Roosevelt Myth” by Murray N. Rothbard
which is a white paper that goes indept on Reagan and origins. Good read
with alot of facts.

P.S. HEY GLENN: Since Rick Santorum follows
Newt’s idea of Conservatisim does that mean you are calling Rick
Santorum a Progressive??????

I don’t care for Beck but he is right on one point. Gingrich is a slug and will pull obama over the finish line if he gets the nomination.

Nice Avatar.

for once I agree with Beck

rightrebel is a kkk member. just sayin’ see his other post here: ww.adl.org/learn/ext_us/kkk.asp

Michelle is more conservative then Gingrich.  She is also Bat Crazy and stupid.  She starts off with a great idea…”We can make policy changes now that should positively affect the economy”, then she messes up the idead completely, “then we will see the drastic positive effects of those policies within 3 months”.

“We can make the choices to our laws that can lessen our dependence on foreign oil” then crazy kicks in “then we can gaurantee $2 a gallon at the pump”

Starts off good “we should all be working to lower taxes to help grow the economy” then crazy kicks in again “but 47% of the people don’t pay any taxes, or federal taxes, so they should have their taxes increased (even if they have no income or are below the poverty line)”

She begins like someone who know what they might be talking about “we need someone who will finish the job in Iraq and not take out our troops making us lose the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan” then crazy comes in yet again with no fail “so therefore we should keep our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan indefinitely, spending more money there and increasing our military presence to really, really win the war, eventually, if it takes more then 10 or 15 or 20 years, just like Israel is doing with the 100 year old Palestinian babykilling, child jew hating war.”

Oh Michelle, my cross eyed bat crazy Michelle.  Why aren’t they voting for you I wonder??

Obama wants decisions and money on the left. All other candidates and Glenn Beck want decisions and money on the right.  Ron Paul wants a government that runs on $100 a month, gas fumes, a shotgun at the front door, and a $5 coupon from Target.

I always assumed Glenn was a big Santorum fan.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fspreadingsantorum.com%2F&ei=TEHmTuz3A8T50gGQ59mCBg&usg=AFQjCNHUJ7uIXHh3EGR7Hceo6bdqjPPWgg&sig2=4K0C_BhunHnNuDVUvkufwQ

Actually Gingrich did not vote for the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993, which is what gave us a surplus.

If what I wrote is misinformation, prove it like anyone with at least a shred of intelligence would do.  It’s easy to respond the way a child would respond when they’re intellectually incapable of forming an educated response.  It also appears that unless some far right wing pundit like Beck hasn’t supplied you with the information you can parrot, your finished and incapable of responding on your own.

No, the liberals didn’t say it, Allies did.  It was pretty much understood that the other FOX pundits thought Beck was labeling FOX and themselves with his ridiculous conspiracies.  His leaving was more of a mutual move between Allies and Beck.   

I remember when Glenn Beck used to make sense. Then he interviewed William Shatner and  went off the deep end. 

http://alturl.com/akcog

Since you again have shown everyone your a “coward” by taking your “reply” button off your post, I’ll post here so you and everyone else can see how shallow you are.  The only tactics your familiar with is what Beck in his infinite ignorance has told you.  If you know the tactic, let us know what it is and don’t just make childish comments as if you actually know something.

Old Beck FINALLY gets something right.  The Tea Party was formed due to their anger and resentment of an African-American man being elected President, it was NEVER about fiscal concerns or big government as the MSM would have us all believe.  They were racist then and they are STILL racist.

Does the test involve a dead intern?

Teabaggers will line up behind any Republican candidate. Baggers are a joke.

Why doesn’t get off his ass to protect the life in that case?

Even a broken (in Beck’s case batshit, crazy) clock is right twice a day.

Exactly. He’s far from a celebrity on this planet.

There is little doubt that Mitt Romney is a RINO.  Are you saying Glenn Beck
is “backing” Mitt Romney?

Problem:  It is obvious now that Bachman cannot win.  She “blew”it a
long time ago, and continues to “blow” it at each debate.  She has
become a “bomb thrower” – and all she has to offer is “she is the most
“republican” in the room.  I have seen nothing that would make me cast
a vote for her.  She continues to say she has been “fighting” for years.
Problem:  Has never gotten anything changed – no success.

Exactly.  The Tea Party does not “lock step” with anyone!  They are encouraged
(by Glenn Beck by the way) to “think for them selves” after “educating themselves”.
Unlike the Liberal Progressives.

If Santorum meant to say he abided by Gingrich’s now well known (from statements accrued through years of living in Washington, of a Washington mindset) brand of “conservatism” as it stood today (read progressivism, only with a R behind the name), he wouldn’t have said he respected “the old Newt Gingrich.”  But Santorum did say that.  He purposely drew a distinction between the man who in the early nineties struck a symbolic pose of a principled oppositional leader (a person who was spinning a great rhetorical tale using carefully crafted language designed to appeal to and co-opt Perot supporters), and the one who was on the stage with him running for president (a man with a past and a record which we could judge).

Santorum associated himself with that first version of the man.

Now who’s the liar?

COMPLETE B.S.!!

I think ALL conservatives should consider no longer supporting Glenn Beck if you do so currently.

I am no longer.

He has used the Tea Party for his own purposes and would not be where
he is if not for us. Take away the tea Party from his Rally this year
and 10 people would be left.

He has despicably slandered and insulted us in the most grievous way.
His comment on the Judge Neapolitan show that the Tea Party is racist
cannot be “walked back” or explained away.

HE WAS CRYSTAL CLEAR WHAT HE THOUGHT. HIS COMMENT WAS DIRECT AND POINTED.

He is no better than Olbermann, Matthews or any one else on the left who has used this smear.

In fact, he is worse. A traitor of the worst kind.

Even as I post this the left is using his comment as “proof” that we
are racist. Every left blog is stating that Beck has now “proved” that
this despicable smear is now “true” because “one of our own” in the
highest order has “admitted such”.

It is heartbreaking to experience someone in his position who was
heralded and respected to turn against us in such a wretched way.

He is a cur and no longer due any respect or support any way whatsoever.

Good bye Glenn Beck.

Oh lookie here.  Another poster with no history making claims to represent whole groups.  One who must read and care so much about what they say on leftist blogs as to make sweeping statements, evidently

All conservatives should realize Newt Gingrich isn’t a conservative.  He’s a guy with an R behind his name, which everybody should’ve learned by now signifies nothing.  Should Newt’s new found support last longer than several weeks, serious criticism of the Tea Party should be had.  Beck is ahead of the game in asking hard questions of them and is willing to bet his career against Newt Gingrich’s political success.

The Tea Party isn’t racist, though if it allows itself to be co-opted by a big-government, climate-change hoax accepting, individual mandate friendly Washington insider (R)epublican which stands for everything they are not for the mere fact that at least he isn’t Obama, it won’t matter what they are or what people think about them anymore since they’ll have gone away, powerless, having only empowered the “conservative” party to work around their influence for a single election cycle.

Oh lookie here.  Another poster with no history making claims to represent whole groups.  One who must read and care so much about what they say on leftist blogs as to make sweeping statements, evidently.

All conservatives should realize Newt Gingrich isn’t a conservative.  He’s a guy with an R behind his name, which everybody in the movement should’ve learned by now signifies nothing.  Should Newt’s new found support last longer than several weeks, serious criticism of the Tea Party should be had.  Beck is ahead of the game in asking hard questions of them and is willing to bet his career against Newt Gingrich’s political success.

The Tea Party isn’t racist, though if it allows itself to be co-opted by a big-government, climate-change hoax accepting, individual mandate friendly Washington insider (R)epublican which stands for everything they are not for the mere fact that at least he isn’t Obama, it won’t matter what they are or what people think about them anymore since they’ll have gone away, powerless, having only empowered the “conservative” party to work around their influence for a single election cycle.

Who the fu#@ said anything about Newt? I didn’t mention Newt in my post because I do not care one whit about the SUBJECT of Beck’s comment.

I won’t vote for Newt. Don’t like him, never did.

This has to do with Beck saying what he said. His comment is what it is. Fu# Beck. He is now no more different than any other lefty like Olbermann, Matthews, Moore, Maher, etc.

Like I said, he cannot walk back or “explain” his comment. He said the tea Party is racist.

PERIOD.

I bring up Newt because it’s that, his support seemingly come from the Tea Party following the decent of Cain’s political fortunes, which informs the discussion.  Since you wish to divorce the subject from your sentiments, in fact state that you don’t CARE about the subject, I re-raise a point from my first paragraph – that I doubt the veracity of your Tea Party bonifides.  The only thing that seems to motivate you is what leftists have to say on their blogs.  But a person true to Tea Party principle no longer cares for what a committed leftist has to say, other than to demonstrate probable hypocrisy being given voice.  Of today’s left leaning political activists, they’re the disingenuous, deceitful loyal opposition, known for underhanded tactics and the dissemination of lies.  Not so far off from the tactics one might find in the functionary of either political party – only it’s more ingrained in the common variety leftist.

So anyone can say anything on the internet.  The only thing we know about you is your public call for people to stop paying attention to what Beck has to say.

We’ve heard that one before.

My point is not what the leftists are saying. It is what Beck said. I merely noted that the left is picking it up because he stated what THEY believe. And now Beck believes it as well: that the Tea Party is racist. That is what he said.

We bought his books, went to his rallies and watched his show and now he calls us racists.

FU#@ Beck and anyone else who gives him a pass on this one.

Spoken like a true light switch – complete with simplistic, dualistic reasoning – just as one so disrespectful of Tea Party folks might envision them as to consider them susceptible to being flipped on and off as easily as one were to flip a switch.

You mean like Beck? One day, hawking his books, rallies, radio show and loyalty to them (including me) one day and then calling them racist the next?

Showing himself to be just another Garafalo after sucking millions of dollars and our loyalty? out of the Tea Party?

How is it you cannot see him as being the ultimate “light switch”?

I responded to you in a new thread if you wish to continue the discussion.

Your retort, cogent and thoughtful, I respect. To say Newt is the equal or even closely ideologically with Obama is “reactive”, overblown and grossly exaggerated.

That aside, Beck “went there” with the label of racist and tagged ME by doing so. I take it personally for good reasons I will not go into here. Suffice it to say, I’m simply done with Beck. It was a sin I cannot forgive him for.

I am not voting for Newt. And I am not listening to Beck any longer.

To say Newt is the equal or even closely ideologically with Obama is “reactive”, overblown and grossly exaggerated.

Determining the difference would by like counting how many hairs are on an arm of a Greek socialist.  Disagreeable and pointless.  To be sure, neither of them wear a Lenin cap, but they do share a core philosophy of progressivism with more in common to European philosophies of governance than that allowed by the constitution, advanced by the founders or held by a good deal of the Republican base (including independents to whom they try to appeal) and are only differentiated by matters of degree.  Let not Glenn Beck be the only source.  George Will, no rock-rib, red-meat loving conservative, phrased it best that so far as the Republican party were concerned, Newt would’ve made a marvelous Marxist.

That aside, Beck “went there.”

No, he didn’t.  To anyone with a lick of awareness on the subject, he challenged – he did not allege.  Yet you want to sit there and take offense.  Beck has said many times – and his audience agrees when applied to others – one must be open to “question with boldness even the very existence of God because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than of blind-folded fear”  You think of yourself or those “in your company” occupying a position above that?  Since when?

I don’t care whether you “listen” to Beck or not (though one would image anyone who ever did would recognize what he said and why he said it).  Though I did state above I associate with the Tea Party, I don’t particularly value personal appeals to authority – I could very well have made my point without it.  But at least I stated my case, without representing my own interest, as to why those who do associate with the Tea Party ought not feel they have cause to take offense.  If, of a different opinion, you cannot reply with a rationality detached from feelings which are personal that you don’t wish to discuss, perhaps your reasoning was never grounded in actual fact.

Again, Beck did not “label” the Tea Party racist.  Watch the clip again; and if you must, again once more.  He challenged the Tea Party, with a mind to their own public stances, repeatedly made, to answer how they could in good conscious suport Newt Gingrich if they were fully aware of all that for which he stood.

Whatever.  Later, whoever you are.

Beck isn’t funny. Enuff said.

Newt is a member of the Council of Foreign Relations.  Their aim is to bring about a socialist global govenment and a debt-based monetary system. Newt is NO Conservative. He’s just as bad as Obama and is more manipulative because he swings back and forth between progressive and conservative agendas. In the end, his aim is to bring about the New World Order.

And another thing: Many folks see Newt as Conservative and not a “progressive”.

To compare Obama, an outright Euro-Socialist liberal with Newt is not even “stretching it”. It is disingenuous.

It is well, Beck’s OPINION.

That being said, Beck is basically stating that if you do not agree with his OPINION that Newt is a “progressive” (and equally so with Obama ideologically), and therefore you vote or support Newt, you must be doing so because Newt is white and Obama is black and ergo you are a racist.

That is NO DIFFERENT than what Olbermann, Maher, Matthews, etc. think.

Beck is no different in this regard than the left.

You just totally ignored my George Will quite in order to put this right back on Beck so to retain your ire at him for pushing HIS opinion – when it’s certainly more than that.  This in defense of a man who, it was recently rediscovered in an old C-span clip, spoke of embracing FDRs four freedoms (including freedom from want and freedom from fear, both concepts existing only in the fantasies of progressives or constitutions of former communist superpowers) in the same breath as he declared himself “a realpolitik Wilsonian.”  Another clip shows the dozens of times Newt claimed FDR to be his favorite 20th century politician.  If “many” see Newt as a core conservative, how many more clues will it take for these folks to see how wrong they are?  Euro-socialism has its own false choice between a “left” and a “right” – variations of the same theme.  Such is not something we need to replicate in America.  And it is not at all disingenuous to say that Gingrich, rather than being for small government solutions, is in that continuum.  He is a typical Washington establishment big government insider who uses conservative rhetoric – as when he brought forth the Contract with America to swing Perot voters – to co-opt conservative voters so to further progressive, albeit progressive Republican, ideas.

And then back to the false claim that Beck called the Tea Party racist, just as leftist pundits have, rather than warn them that such is exactly the criticism they’ll come in for should they ditch all their principles and throw support behind the right’s “white” Obama.  I put it this way for, as Obama was the furthest left in the 2008 Democratic field, what is Gingrich but the candidate furthest left currently seeking the Republican nomination?

You may see it as traitorous to have had individual TP members’ motivations questioned with boldness, an unforgivable sin for associates to come under scrutiny from someone considered an ally, but in who’s interest was it done?  Adoption of TP ideals is no passing fancy but quite possibly the last hope for the country as it is currently constituted before it is good and “transformed.”  Was Beck’s challenge (again, of their principles, not their racism) truly “no different in that regard than the left?”  As I said above, Beck has as well as pitted his career against Gingrich’s political success; as you state his audience are mostly Tea Party folk.  In light of this, haven’t you asked yourself what might motivate him to “go there?”

Well, first off, there is no there.  Since its inception, Beck has consistently defended the Tea Party from charges or racism.  He’s been intimately involved with movers and shakers in advancing the agenda.  You cannot find an instance in all that time in which he intimated a motivation of racism for more than the typical handful that find their way into any organization.

But appearances are sometimes everything, and here’s where it relates to his challenge.  There is no dishonor to fighting a losing battle if one survives to fight another day.  It would be a hell of a thing – unprecedented – for us to successfully chose the nominee in our first presidential election cycle against the entire weight of party machinery.  The Tea Party now seems willing, in part, to back off candidates mostly in line with their own beliefs for the dubious gain of being a factor in the choice between the lesser of two evils (and even in that some appear to be backing the wrong choice among the two).  Let me tell you this.  If Gingrich wins the nomination with Tea Party support, the TP is done.  Finished.  Kaput.  If it’s seen at all as a force in 2012, it will have been seen by the country as having compromised its core principles simply in order to knock off the black guy.  It will have spent all its political capital to become a poor wing of the establishment, back to being ignored as soon as the final vote is counted with all that it stood for going by the board.

Is that what some people want?  Most definitely.  Thus the question.  Who is leading you and down what blind alley?  Are you actually for something or are you just against Obama?  Do you know what that will look like?  Beck is no faultless ally, and his prompting, as is often when broaching matters of race, was inartfully done.  But a leftist pundit would not so willingly invite damning criticism from his own audience in order to save the TP from making a ruinous mistake.

I just loaded all of your Disqus contributions for the last 2 years, BTW, and context searched for Beck.  Aside from this current “break” you claim to have made here, there’s barely a mention of him in all that time.  I’ll take it, then, that your familiarity of him as a TP ally is just slightly beyond surface awareness.  As with many offering their denouncement of their take on Beck’s statement, there doesn’t seem to be a recognition at all of what motivates him.

Try your logic with another tea party member: President Obama’s cousin:

Seems he shares my sentiments exactly.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/14/staying-true-to-the-tea-party-892854087/

I’ve read it and my arguments are in part related to it.  I must admit I’ve been using you a bit as a foil to help construct them so that they may be better articulated in the future.  Thanks for participating, but sorry they wouldn’t penetrate and that you seem more willing to buy into a counter-intuitive narrative.

Judge Napolitano is catholic….

Are you saying Bush gave all those people back their money from Social Security?

Mitt Romney is a self admitted progressive and their is a u-tube video with him admitting it.  I tried to post it here but it wasn’t allowed.  Since Beck is so against progressives, why in the world would he back Mitt who stated that his views are progressive??????