So, I’m guessing that Obama was on his worst person’s list? Surely Bush would’ve been had he given the exact same speech.

I accidentally landed on Queefy’s show just when he tried to go after Dick Armey..

,,,he ended the segment with a fucked up and childish attempt to insult Armey by saying his name was “onomatopoetic”

The Uberdouche obviously doesn’t understand what that word means..

…the Cow College he attended must be sooooo proud

So, I’m guessing that Obama was on his worst person’s list?

He was on that list 2 years ago: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/29/obama-makes-keith-olberma_n_130445.html and a few times since.

And had Bush given the exact same speech the dittoheads over a FOX wouldn’t have criticized it the way Olbermann did.

This completely disproves the mantra of so many on the right that MSNBC is just a liberal version of FOX. No one on FOX ever said a word against Bush no matter what he did or didn’t do when he was President. They just towed the GOP line.

Last night, Olbermann and others proved that while they many lean to the left, they are not spokespeople for a Democratic President or the Democratic party the way FOX is for the Republican party and was for President Bush.

JamesA1102 says:
June 16, 2010 at 10:52 pm

This completely disproves the mantra of so many on the right that MSNBC is just a liberal version of FOX. No one on FOX ever said a word against Bush no matter what he did or didn’t do when he was President. They just towed the GOP line.

Everyone, let’s sing it this time!

La-la-la-laaa. La-la-la-laaa. La-la-liiiiiiiiiiar. Yoooou are a… La-la-la-laaa… liiiiiiiar.

FNC routinely criticized Bush during his administration for a wide variety of reasons. That fact that you never watch them, and believe some made up non-truth doesn’t make it so.

As for MSNBC… puh-lease. Their lineup is completely left-wing, and the ALWAYS tow the left-wing line. Now, that line may not always agree with the President, but it’s ALWAYS on the left.

Last night, Olbermann and others proved that while they many lean to the left, they are not spokespeople for a Democratic President or the Democratic party the way FOX is for the Republican party and was for President Bush.

Back to the chorus…

Dat james be a lib who like Obbama ass, dawgs. dat white man had his head up dat black ass and lass nite Obbama fart in James face, but dawgs, james like dat wind break

FNC routinely criticized Bush during his administration for a wide variety of reasons.

Really? When? On what issues? And who? Can you provided links?

That fact that you never watch them, and believe some made up non-truth doesn’t make it so.

Actually I watch them all the time, I usually throw-up in my mouth at some point but I power through it. So just because you made up some non-truth because you can’t refute what I said, doesn’t make it so.

As for MSNBC… puh-lease. Their lineup is completely left-wing, and the ALWAYS tow the left-wing line. Now, that line may not always agree with the President, but it’s ALWAYS on the left.

I never said they didn’t lean left. In fact I acknowledged it. But they are not spokespeople for the Democratic partly the way FOX is for the Republican party.

Dat james be a lib who like Obbama ass, dawgs. dat white man had his head up dat black ass and lass nite Obbama fart in James face, but dawgs, james like dat wind break

Nice intelligent response.

dawgs, james like that black pres- he had his head in Obbama’s black ass for 18 months. dat james, he belief every ding dat Obbama says. dat white man is da bombb

dawgs, james like that black pres- he had his head in Obbama’s black ass for 18 months. dat james, he belief every ding dat Obbama says. dat white man is da bombb

I’ve met a lot of intelligent and insightful conservatives over the years. Too bad your not one of them.

Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity repeatedly blasted Bush’s immigration policies and, as they saw them, poor border control measures. And O’Reilly just reamed Bush out when we had the Wall Street meltdown.

Both criticized his deficits, O’Reilly greatly criticized Bush on the Iraq War and gas policies, Hannity on the ports deal and Harriet Mier’s nomination……I could go on but I think the point has been made.

amesA1102 says:
June 16, 2010 at 11:14 pm

dawgs, james like that black pres- he had his head in Obbama’s black ass for 18 months. dat james, he belief every ding dat Obbama says. dat white man is da bombb

I’ve met a lot of intelligent and insightful conservatives over the years. Too bad your not one of them.”

dat james be angry, dawgs- Obbama no longer give him thrill like dat matteews got. james dont like dat at all.

That white man want to be with obbama in bed to nite

Five years on blue is still arguing that Fox News is “fair and balanced”. Some things never change.

Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers says:”

ooh, now dis boy like obbama ass as much as dat james do. hee believe whatevver dat Ko or Obbama say- he have scrotmm envy,dawgs

Bill, I don’t get your Schtick. Am I suppose to laugh?

Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers says:

Yous be white man dat sleeps with obbams , dawg- why you white man want his black hose so much, dawg

James, you’re so far off it’s hard to know where to begin. Therefore, I’ll just keep it short, Olby was hitting BHO from the left. Once he received negative feedback, he went back to kissing his arse and carrying his water. The people over there are nothing but race baiting propagandists. And yes, FNC bashed Bush many, many times. Too many times in fact to bother posting links that your lazy butt won’t watch anyway. Step out of that cave you’ve been living in.

BillSays says:
June 16, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Fox News: We proudly pander to Teabaggers says:

Yous be white man dat sleeps with obbams
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Yous be an ignorant racist that probably doesn’t even go out in public. I hope you like it down there in your mommies basement.

lonestar77 says:
June 16, 2010 at 11:27 pm

And yes, FNC bashed Bush many, many times. Too many times in fact to bother posting links that your lazy butt won’t watch anyway.
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That’s kind of funny since you can’t post any of those links. Just post one where Hannity bashed Bush.

the real john t says:
June 16, 2010 at 11:37 pm

dawg, you be dat white man found in obbama bedroom? yeah, dat be you- you found naaked, nipple pinching clotespins on yo man tits- looking for an obbama special hot lunch and golden shower, dawg

the real john t says:

dawg- i saw yo with yo elbows up yoo white ass walkking on yo elbows bacwards. dawg, yo suck on KO to- i bet you be sandwich for men

John:
Do your own research. It’s not my job to do it for you. Besides, I could post links all day long and you’d still find something to whine about. I really don’t care.

BillSays says:
June 16, 2010 at 11:44 pm
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Like I said, you’re nothing but an ignorant racist. I’m done wasting my time on your sorry stupid ass.

the real john t says:

dat johnt t be mad, dawgs- he not get a pearrl necklesss fron his boy lover.

Dat man love the ass of 4 legs animals to

lonestar77 says:
June 16, 2010 at 11:47 pm
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You’re the one that made the claim. So I guess you can’t back it up, little big mouth can you?

“dawg- i saw yo with yo elbows up yoo white ass walkking on yo elbows bacwards. dawg, yo suck on KO to- i bet you be sandwich for men”

This proves how pointless it is to ban people on Mediaite.

They always come back.

Like moths to a flame.

Or teabaggers to a cross burning.

the real john t says:

hay john, you like it on yo knees with dat ko- or do you sit on toillet with dat shock absorber

Hey Lonestar, are you proud to have the likes of people like BillSays on your side?

Big_F-ing_Deal says:

dat bdf- he to like obbama hose – he had many pearrl neckless from obbama and bid thick goldden shower dawgs

the real john t says:

ooh no joh t don’t yo be madd – yo backseat boy need ya to nite- be be on your face befor long

I don’t care what Bill Says, he’s just trying to get under your skin. And, let’s not start comparing whose on whose side. It could get very embarrassing for you. Again, do your own research. Why do lazy lefties always want someone else to do their work for them? You prolly sit at home and collect welfare, food stamps, & unemployment, huh? See, I have to work hard…millions of liberals depend on me.

lonestar77 says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:01 am

Why do lazy lefties always want someone else to do their work for them? You prolly sit at home and collect welfare, food stamps, & unemployment, huh?
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Why do righties always come on here and run off at the ass when they can’t prove what they claim? And no, I’ve got a good retirement from the Ironworkers Union. So hows your retirement plan at Burger King?

the real john t says

dawg, you better stopp yo language, Darn, I will burn you in to BBQ chickan. I take yo toenails off and have da birds eat em.

BillSays says:
June 16, 2010 at 11:01 pm

Bill, talk more about the writers of Mediaite, and less about the posters.

(Hopefully, that will get Bill banned for good. I’m tired of the same crap from this guy.)

JamesA1102 says:
June 16, 2010 at 11:09 pm

Really? When? On what issues? And who? Can you provided links?

Bush was frequently criticized for not doing enough during Katrina. For an overall policy, he was criticized for not taking a strong or coherent role on immigration. In fact, recently (I think even Mediaite wrote it up) O’Reilly had a shoot out with Karl Rove, complaining about the inaction of the Bush Administration on the borders.

Links? Yes, I have links that are 8 years old… let me get those out for you.

But seriously, let me ask… how did you build this particular opinion? What facts do YOU have to support that? How do you know they (whomever “they” is) never criticized Bush? Hmmm?

Actually I watch them all the time, I usually throw-up in my mouth at some point but I power through it.

Should I sing again? No… we all know that’s a lie.

So just because you made up some non-truth because you can’t refute what I said, doesn’t make it so.

No. But since you have no evidence, and are completely wrong… that makes it not so.

But they are not spokespeople for the Democratic partly the way FOX is for the Republican party.

They are the spokes people for the liberal left. FNC does not always go along with Republicans, and anyone who says they do is ignorant and ill informed. I get it, James… you read KOS, you read Media Matters, you believe that FNC is the worst possible thing ever, and that all they do is spout RNC talking points. Now, a quick glance at the network would prove that wrong… but you don’t want to believe any different, so you don’t. I get it. Just don’t expect anyone else to believe it.

Proudly says:
June 16, 2010 at 11:18 pm

Really? Did I say anything about “fair and balanced” in my post? Ah well, I’m sure you’ll make up something new later on.

 
the real john t says:
June 16, 2010 at 11:41 pm

That’s kind of funny since you can’t post any of those links. Just post one where Hannity bashed Bush.

Just a few points:
1) I wasn’t aware that Hannity was the entire network.
2) Hannity is an outspoken Republican. Wouldn’t you expect his views to be in line with a Republican President?
3) Here’s a transcript of Hannity speaking about Bush and immigration. Hannity’s not happy…
4) Your apologies can be posted here, and directed to “ImNotBlue” and “lonestar77″

the real john t says:
June 16, 2010 at 11:53 pm

Hey Lonestar, are you proud to have the likes of people like BillSays on your side?

If I had to guess, I’d be he’s another manifestation of TRRK. Probably another one of his (many) personalities.

Either way, he speaks for no one but himself. And yet, at least for me, that’s still one too many.

BillSays says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:11 am
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Is that a death threat?

Shill Baby Shill: Rachel Maddow’s Oily Misdirection From Democrats Supporting Offshore Drilling

There are lies, damned lies and statistics, so the saying goes. Add Rachel Maddow’s lies of omission to the list.

Maddow is doing her best to shield MSNBC viewers from awkward facts about political support for offshore drilling. Here’s how she began her show on Monday, with an announcement from July 2008 by then-President George W. Bush —

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2010/06/16/shill-baby-shill-rachel-maddows-oily-misdirection-democrats-supporting#ixzz0r53k7TrD

the real john t says:

dawg, your thick face have hurt my instep, dawg. yo be my bitch jont

the real john t says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:10 am

“Why do righties always come on here and run off at the ass when they can’t prove what they claim?”

You’re the one making the claims, dipstick. Typical left-wing tactic. You say something incredibly false, I tell you your wrong, then you say “prove it”. Surely even a simpleton like you can see how stupid that is.

I just saw that over at Newsbusters, Michelle. Typical Maddow. I’m not sure what she does more: Lie or giggle.

the real john t says:
June 16, 2010 at 11:53 pm
Hey Lonestar, are you proud to have the likes of people like BillSays on your side?

Hey John, Bill is what we call a poser. You know, like those leftist at the tea-parties, claiming to be one of them, holding their racist sign.

ImNotBlue says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:15 am
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Do you actually call the link you gave Hannity bashing Bush. Good Grief! Maybe you should learn what the term BASHING means.

MichelleF says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:24 am
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Yeah, keep dreaming. He’s a frigging idiotic rightie. Just like the teabaggers.

Lonestar77, if you value your sanity, don’t try to talk to John. It’s like talking to my ADHD, autistic nephew before he’s had his medication. Well with one exception, the kid is pretty smart!

the real john t says:

Yah-ha, yo evil spidder man! I have you by the short rabbits and can now deliver yo ass too yoo doctor for a thorough exami, dawg.

yo be ko, boy to nite

lonestar77 says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:22 am

You’re the one making the claims, dipstick. Typical left-wing tactic. You say something incredibly false,
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Where did I say something “incredibly false”?

the real john t says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:25 am

Do you actually call the link you gave Hannity bashing Bush. Good Grief! Maybe you should learn what the term BASHING means.

No, please do. Explain to me why it is that you want someone to “bash” someone else. Explain to me how not (allegedly) having hosts “bash” the president is a bad thing.

Apparently, this is John T’s way of moving the goal points. When James said FNC defended Bush and never criticized him, I called him a liar. After posting proof that James was lying, John T has decided it’s “not good enough,” because he wasn’t “bashed.”

But to be fair… do you think Olbermann was “bashing” the President? Does that mean all that stuff that James said MSNBC isn’t, is simply untrue too? Come on buddy, be consistent…

“easily the smartest political leader I’ve ever seen” and wondering whether it had happened before that America elected what was clearly, according to him, one of the most intelligent people in the country as President

Yeah, that is HARSH!

MichelleF says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:28 am
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What’s your problem, you can’t carry on an intelligent converstaion with a LWer? So you have to resort to insults. Typical RWer.

MichelleF says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:28 am

I agree, Lonestar. John T is a master of diversion and the semantic “debate.” As he responded to my proving him and James wrong, it’s now about Hannity “bashing.” He’ll take a small element to something he (or someone else said), disregard their meaning… and attempt to exploit one word or two.

Think, the definition of “is.”

The more you prove him wrong, the more “tv lawyer” he tries to be… picking on more and more minor details, in an effort to steer people away from the obvious conclusion: he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, and has been proven wrong… again.

John T is nothing if not really predictable.

the real john t says:

dawgs, dat joht be a lover of ko and obbamas. dat white man be for dem when they want dat white trash union man.

the real john t says:

dat joht say he be ironworker but the way he act i say he be pipefitter yo know what dat mean,dawgs

dat man be with his like . he smak yo repubs ass but he like his own, dawgs

Yeah, I don’t know where Hannity came in. I never mentioned Hannity. I’ve heard him bash Pres. Bush over the radio regarding immigration but I’m not gonna search an audio link to please John. Anyway, what I originally saidwas that FNC bashed Bush many, many times. Apparently, John thinks FNC has one employee and his name is Sean Hannity. Whatever. He’s a loon.

ImNotBlue says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:31 am
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Talking about moving goal posts, maybe you should go back and read the full exchange of comments before running off your stupid ass. You are proving you are just as ignorant as the rest at Dollar’s Dump. Here I thought you were a little bit smarter than them.

IMNOTBLUE

Bill, talk more about the writers of Mediaite, and less about the posters.”

dawg- yo should honnor yo own thought dawg.

the real john t says

dawg- yo stopp dat language yo sounding like dat ko man, dat one you want so much,dawg

the real john t says
dawg, i bett yo so fatt yo car have streackmaarks on its sides, eh- dawg, yo be one humm dinger of ackers of fatts

How do you “run off your stupid ass”? Can you write a post without using such juvenile language? I’m rubber you’re glue. Didn’t you say you’re retired? Good God old man, you speak like a 7th grader.

dawgs, did yo see dat ko go after dat obbama lst nite then today, he be eat up with obbama agn. dat ko still want dat man

ImNotBlue says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:35 am
MichelleF says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:28 am

I agree, Lonestar. John T is a master of diversion and the semantic “debate.”
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Can you show me where you came up with that idiotic claim? You sure are good making claims like that.

As I read:

“Keith Olbermann Defends Obama Speech”

I laughed so hard I nearly fell out of my chair!

Did Frances decide to write this article? Or, did someone have to hold a cattle prod to her backside, just to make her do it?

This isn’t “News” at all. At least not for anyone that has followed Olberman’s wild eyed rants and near constant Obama worshiping proselytizing, for more than a week or two.

This is merely restating the tragically obvious.

ImNotBlue says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:35 am

“I agree, Lonestar. John T is a master of diversion and the semantic “debate”

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That’s one mighty steep curve you grade on INB .

dat ko eat up obbamas last nite then he be his bitch today

‘I was privileged along with 11 other newspeople to spend 2 hours with him as he showed extemporaneous mastery of every one of two dozen topics fired at him by us in random order. I left the room wondering if we had ever before actually elected a president who was one of the 1,000 smartest people in the country (or maybe 100, or 10) as we had now.”

the real john t says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:43 am

So, just to see if I understand things correctly…

You (a) jumped into a series of comments between me and James. Then you (b) changed what James was saying, assuming he meant “bashed.” When I disproved James’ comments, you (c) complained it wasn’t adhering to YOUR standards. And (d) now dodge that fact, by attacking your perpetual boogey man, and object of your unending obsession, J$.

Does that sum things up?

Yes. Yes it does.

the real john t says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:52 am

Can you show me where you came up with that idiotic claim?

the real john t says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:25 am

ImNotBlue says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:15 am
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Do you actually call the link you gave Hannity bashing Bush. Good Grief! Maybe you should learn what the term BASHING means.

Proven wrong… and now we wait for you to move the goal posts once again.

ImNotBlue says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:59 am

Whoops… forgot to close the tag properly, this sentence:

Proven wrong… and now we wait for you to move the goal posts once again.

Was from me, and previews the next exchange, I’m sure.

lonestar77 says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:50 am

Didn’t you say you’re retired? Good God old man, you speak like a 7th grader.
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“Old man”? I’m not even close to 60 yet. Then you want to talk about juvrnile language. Here’s what you wrote:
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lonestar77 says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:22 am
Surely even a simpleton like you can see how stupid that is.
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You still haven’t shown me where I’m “incredibly false”.

Can you spell HYPOCRITE?

“Lonestar77, if you value your sanity, don’t try to talk to John. It’s like talking to my ADHD, autistic nephew before he’s had his medication. Well with one exception, the kid is pretty smart!”

Does your kid know you sit on your ass all day acting like a c-word on an internet blog?

Is that the message you want to give him? Or do you hide it from him?

Here’s an idea. Show him this post. Make him proud.

ImNotBlue says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:59 am
the real john t says:
June 17, 2010 at 12:43 am

You (a) jumped into a series of comments between me and James.
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I think you might have a reading comprehension problem. If you go back and look at the comments I was in a conversation with Lonestar when you jumped in. So you need to read more carefully before spouting off.

BDF says.

dawg, yo need to talk about dat ko man and his love for obbams. but dawg, you want dat man to, dawg. dat not right yoo be wanting dat president

the real john t says:
June 17, 2010 at 1:10 am

And John T tries to dodge again. Ugh.

This game gets old so quickly.

BDF and joht

Yoos get to gather and talk Obbamas love you have. dawgs, dam, i bet yoos have big matress on skids were yo do yo thing with Obbamas pictue on ceiiling,dawgs. dat not right dat you be loving on yoo leader

I can’t help wondering if some posters here got this worked up when Olbermann and Maddow were criticizing President Bush. I agreed with some of what they said in the last two days, and disagreed with some. But that’s no reason to attack them. Maybe we need to remember that President Obama said, on several occasions after his election, that we would have to MAKE HIM do what is necessary. That’s all Olbermann and Maddow were doing, as they saw it.
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ImNotBlue says:
June 17, 2010 at 1:14 am
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What the hell is wrong with you, what am I dodging? Every time you’re caught in a lie you try to say I’m the one dodging. Aren’t you man enough to say you’re wrong or at least give it a break?

Dat ko and mmsnbc be loving on obbamas for long period. dam, da think dat man is da bombb

dat new owwner may stopp dat love in reel soon,dawgs

Rick Hopes says:
Maybe we need to remember that President Obama said, on several occasions after his election, that we would have to MAKE HIM do what is necessary.”

dawg, yoo be needing a brain suregeon for an estimate. dat be the stuppidest thing i ever heard.

dawgs, dat ko say he not spokesman for any president but he be eat up with obbamas for 2 year now. dat ko lie about dat, i say.

ko and rm hav dat man love for dat man and i see it in there eyes. day want to be with dat man all day long

dawgs, i dont think dat ko,rm, bdf, joht now that obbamas be married to woman. they need to stopp they crush on him and get back to there duties, dawgs

the real john t says:
June 17, 2010 at 1:18 am

What the hell is wrong with you, what am I dodging? Every time you’re caught in a lie you try to say I’m the one dodging. Aren’t you man enough to say you’re wrong or at least give it a break?

John… I proved the statement about FOX, wrong. I proved the statement about Hannity, wrong. I proved that you go for the semantic debate. And yet again, I show that you attempt to change the subject, ignoring the larger topic at hand, the moment you get proven wrong.

Admit you were wrong about FOX. Admit you were wrong about Hannity. Admit you use the semantic debate as a weapon.

Beyond those things, I’m too bored of this to continue. Back to the topic at hand…

____________________________________________________

It’s funny to me how worked up KO is getting because some of his fans are upset that he criticized Obama. Apparently, worked up enough that he felt he needed to defend himself.

I think the situation was well laid out by O’Reilly tonight (as he defended… yes, defended… Obama). The left is upset with Obama because they don’t think he’s taking the environmental aspect serious enough, and he’s not doing enough to “take over” BP. The right is unhappy because they see his attempts to push cap and trade, and use this event as a tool to pass some of his less popular (both with the people and congress) legislation.

So while both sides are unhappy… it’s not necessarily for the same reason. Right now, he’s a man on his own island… and that’s not the place any politician wants to be if he/she hopes to be re-elected. Obama is going to have to change strategies if he wants to make any attempt at a rebound.

dawgs. i see dat new owner may cleen house at dat mmsnbc. Dag, he may throw all da libs out to da dogs. dam, they never be able to work agn, dawgs, that whats im thinking.

Dat mmsnbc he obbams netwerk for long time. I see they have large size drool cups for KO and RM. I think they are fom Mickeydees but may be form Big Boy.

Dawgs, I bet dat bdf and joh t talked about dat obbamas hamberger for days. dam, I bet joht went to a berger place and got one two to be like his man obbamas.

dawgs, da way i see it is dat all these libs will rush back to obbamas and plead for mercy. day want dat man to ruin the country so dat they no longer work for food. Da want dat government check to due there druds and fornacating. Dags, dat Sting man want to legilize all drugs. All

dat man wants all to be lazy lib,dawgs. can yoo think of this nation on crack- dat would make all like joht and bdf.

No, dawgs, obbamas must stopp the likes of joht and others. those libs received shock treatments during a brown out.

Dawgs, I say dat obbamas have no equals. no equals- only superiors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv6VW4tMZbE

ImNotBlue says:
June 17, 2010 at 1:28 am

John… I proved the statement about FOX, wrong. I proved the statement about Hannity, wrong.
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You didn’t prove a damn thing with that link. But to get back on the topic like you said, didn’t you see any news today? Obama got BP to put 20billion dollars in an escrow fund to take care of the claims with an indepent party to handle it. The news I watched had Democrats and Republicans both praising him for getting it done. But I doubt the news channel you watch showed that.

—-.These Obama cult-like sheep , think Dobermann did them a disservice and betrayed them, by criticizing Obama last night . When in actuality KO was pissed Obama didn’t layout a Cap & Trade bill strategy last night . I truly believe MSNBC and other Liberal outlets , do not care so much that Obama gets re-elected. Than they feel , this is their only chance to push every left-wing policy they can through congress , no matter what the political cost . Today white house officials signaled timelines for a ” Energy Bill ” . Once again this White House responds to it’s base , but not the American people.

Dawgs, i bet dat mmsnbc wont due well when dat other cretan brain o”donnell joins.

Dam, that will be 3 hours of lib hate and obbamas drolling,dawgs.

dat O’donnell man, due the work of 2 men: Abbot and Costello.

dat man be temperamental: 90% temper and 10% mental.Dwags, people like him don’t grow on trees, they swing from them.

dat mmsnbc be some thing. KO, RM. LO- dawgs, some turn heads but these turm stomaches.

the real john t says

Joht, i bet if you was a dinosour, yoo be a lickalotapuss, dawg

KO and msm criticize BO (only) now for fear of jeopardizing governance elite in general, globally.

“I am not, have not been, will not be, and am not supposed to be any politician’s, or any president’s, spokesman.”

Isn’t that just a laugh riot? Chris Matthews on MSNBC claimed it was “his job” to make sure this president succeeds. He wasn’t speaking from a personal level, he was speaking on air and an MSNBCer.

Keith carefully selected his words “not supposed to be”, but in reality he clearly is a spokesman for teh One. Just like everyone else on NBC/MSNBC….”job…to make sure this president succeeds.”

MSNBC=meltdown

Bush was frequently criticized for not doing enough during Katrina.

For an overall policy, he was criticized for not taking a strong or coherent role on immigration.

Really? When? Who? Links?

In fact, recently (I think even Mediaite wrote it up) O’Reilly had a shoot out with Karl Rove, complaining about the inaction of the Bush Administration on the borders.

Wow! Bill O’Reilly has an on-air disagreement with Rove 18 months after Bush is out of office and you think that qualifies. Get real!

Links? Yes, I have links that are 8 years old… let me get those out for you.

Well Katrina was only 5 years ago, not 8. Are all your “facts” that accurate? The reason you can’t is that they don’t exist.

But seriously, let me ask… how did you build this particular opinion? What facts do YOU have to support that? How do you know they (whomever “they” is) never criticized Bush? Hmmm?

By watching FOX news for the last 10 years and never, ever seeing any serious criticism of President Bush that matchs the criticism of President Obama on MSNBC on Tuesday night.

Should I sing again? No… we all know that’s a lie.

No you call it a lie because you don’t have any factual back-up to refute what I said.

No. But since you have no evidence, and are completely wrong… that makes it not so.

I can’t prove a negative. You say FOX routinely criticized Bush, prove that they did.

They are the spokes people for the liberal left.

But the liberal left is not the Democratic Party. Those are two very different things.

FNC does not always go along with Republicans, and anyone who says they do is ignorant and ill informed.

Really??? They don’t??? Again, show me the links that prove that. And anyone who doesn’t admitt that FOX is the spokespeople of the GOP is just in self-denial.

I get it, James… you read KOS,

Actually I don’t.

you read Media Matters,

On occasion.

you believe that FNC is the worst possible thing ever,

No I don’t. Please don’t put words in my mouth.

and that all they do is spout RNC talking points.

Maybe not all the time, but is has been proven that they do it: http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/fox-news-reprints-gop-talking-points-fo

Now, a quick glance at the network would prove that wrong… but you don’t want to believe any different, so you don’t. I get it. Just don’t expect anyone else to believe it.

No a quick glance would not prove anything. Watching the network over the last decade as I have, shows a distinct pattern. You may not want to admitt that and prefer to cling to the ‘fair & balanced’ mythology, but it is reality whether to acknowledge it or not.

the real john t says:
June 17, 2010 at 1:49 am

But I doubt the news channel you watch showed that.

O’Reilly discussed it… in fact, I think it was in the first story. And I’m pretty sure Hannity did too.

Wrong again.

JamesA1102 says:
June 17, 2010 at 7:57 am

Other than Shep Smith, no one at FOX citicized Bush and Snith’s criticism was never against Bush personally but against the federal response.

Two points… one, you’re wrong. O’Reilly criticized him as well (and I’m sure other’s, but I don’t watch enough of their programs to say with enough certainty). And two, Smith is on for 2 hours daily… doesn’t that mean he’s part of FNC? Can you say FNC didn’t do something, except during 2 hours that that they did? Are you picking up the John T line and moving the goal posts?

Wow! Bill O’Reilly has an on-air disagreement with Rove 18 months after Bush is out of office and you think that qualifies. Get real!

And then, there was the link I posted (a transcript) to a Hannity program, where Hannity attacked Bush over immigration… in 2004. Is that way back enough for you?

By watching FOX news for the last 10 years and never, ever seeing any serious criticism of President Bush that matchs the criticism of President Obama on MSNBC on Tuesday night.

How do you watch FNC and MSNBC at the same time?

Yeah… not buying it. Sorry.

I can’t prove a negative. You say FOX routinely criticized Bush, prove that they did.

Well, I already gave you a link… how’s that?

Oh, and as for “proving a negative,” that’s a neat tactic. You say something very broad, and then expect everyone else to do a lot of research, if they want to prove you wrong. You have to do no work, just throw out something silly, and then put your hands up and say, “Nuh-uh… you’ve got the burden.” The only problem… nobody’s buying it.

But the liberal left is not the Democratic Party. Those are two very different things.

Very different? Really? Who does the liberal left vote for? Which candidates do they support?

Really??? They don’t??? Again, show me the links that prove that. And anyone who doesn’t admitt that FOX is the spokespeople of the GOP is just in self-denial.

Already did. And for God’s sake, you’re talking to people who actually watch the network. We already know you’re lying. You’re not fooling anyone by saying this over and over again.

Maybe not all the time…

So now you’re arguing with yourself? Yeesh.

Watching the network over the last decade as I have, shows a distinct pattern. You may not want to admitt that and prefer to cling to the ‘fair & balanced’ mythology, but it is reality whether to acknowledge it or not.

Does retelling this lie over and over again make you feel better? Do you think you’re accomplishing anything?

I’d understand if you were telling a room full of people who didn’t know any better. But knowing that most of the people here are media savvy, and that nobody is buying your tripe, it seems like a waste of time. I just don’t understand your goal… who do you think you’re fooling?

James, Glenn Beck criticized Bush all the time. But if you actually watched Fox instead of always going by your far left ideology, you’d have known that.

Funny Keith, we thought you were. When did all this change?

ImNotBlue says:
June 17, 2010 at 10:18 am

“I’d understand if you were telling a room full of people who didn’t know any better. But knowing that most of the people here are media savvy, and that nobody is buying your tripe, it seems like a waste of time. I just don’t understand your goal… who do you think you’re fooling?”
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Well said.

James, Glenn Beck criticized Bush all the time. But if you actually watched Fox instead of always going by your far left ideology, you’d have known that.

I do watch FOX News which is why I know that while President Bush was in office Beck was on HLN, not FOX. He didn’t move to FOX until 2009.

Maybe if you actually respected facts instead of going by your smear liberals and ‘defend FOX at all costs’ mentality you would have known that.

Two points… one, you’re wrong. O’Reilly criticized him as well (and I’m sure other’s, but I don’t watch enough of their programs to say with enough certainty). And two, Smith is on for 2 hours daily… doesn’t that mean he’s part of FNC? Can you say FNC didn’t do something, except during 2 hours that that they did? Are you picking up the John T line and moving the goal posts?

Two points…I don’t recall any harsh criticism of Bush from O’Reilly, even though I think he is one of the fairer commentators on FOX. And two, Smith wasn’t on 2 hours a day during Katrina. He was the reporter on the scene in New Orleans.

And then, there was the link I posted (a transcript) to a Hannity program, where Hannity attacked Bush over immigration… in 2004. Is that way back enough for you?

Hannity attacked Bush? Here are Hannity’s quotes from the transcript:

SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: In the next few days President Bush will reportedly propose drastic changes to U.S. immigration policy that will, in fact, allow millions of illegal aliens to gain some type of legal status and also allow some entry of temporary workers into the U.S. under a new visa system.

Appreciate your time. Thank you for being with us.

Hannity disagreed with the policy but there is no “attack” on President Bush. There is certainly not anything that equals the harsh criticism of President Obama by Olbermann and Matthews on Tuesday night.

If this is the best you can come up with out of 8 years of FOX’s coverage of the Bush Presidency, it’s pretty lame.

How do you watch FNC and MSNBC at the same time?

Yeah… not buying it. Sorry.

Who said I watch them at the same time? Plus there is this little nifty device called a DVR.

Well, I already gave you a link… how’s that?

Yeah and it was pretty lame.

Oh, and as for “proving a negative,” that’s a neat tactic. You say something very broad, and then expect everyone else to do a lot of research, if they want to prove you wrong. You have to do no work, just throw out something silly, and then put your hands up and say, “Nuh-uh… you’ve got the burden.” The only problem… nobody’s buying it.

Not a tactic but the truth. The only way I can prove is is to produce every transcript and video from every FOX News show from the 8 years President Bush was in office. Since you’re the self-proscribed
expert on FOX you should be able to come up with more than on isolated example of one FOX show host disagreeing with a Bush policy over the 8 years he was in office.

Very different? Really? Who does the liberal left vote for? Which candidates do they support?

Sometimes they support and vote of third party candidates like Ralph Nader and the Green Party.

Already did. And for God’s sake, you’re talking to people who actually watch the network. We already know you’re lying. You’re not fooling anyone by saying this over and over again.

No I’m talking to idealogues who are in self denial.

So now you’re arguing with yourself? Yeesh.

Interesting how you cropped that quote to omit the link showing FOX has copied GOP talking points. Well here it is again: http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/fox-news-reprints-gop-talking-points-fo

Does retelling this lie over and over again make you feel better? Do you think you’re accomplishing anything?

Because I’m not lying. Does it make you feel better to deny reality and just pretend that I’m lying because you can’t handle the truth?

I’d understand if you were telling a room full of people who didn’t know any better. But knowing that most of the people here are media savvy, and that nobody is buying your tripe, it seems like a waste of time. I just don’t understand your goal… who do you think you’re fooling?

I’m not fooling anyone. It is you who is fooling yourself.

By watching FOX news for the last 10 years and never, ever seeing any serious criticism of President Bush that matchs the criticism of President Obama on MSNBC on Tuesday night.

How do you watch FNC and MSNBC at the same time?

Yeah… not buying it. Sorry.

I can’t prove a negative. You say FOX routinely criticized Bush, prove that they did.

Well, I already gave you a link… how’s that?

Oh, and as for “proving a negative,” that’s a neat tactic. You say something very broad, and then expect everyone else to do a lot of research, if they want to prove you wrong. You have to do no work, just throw out something silly, and then put your hands up and say, “Nuh-uh… you’ve got the burden.” The only problem… nobody’s buying it.

But the liberal left is not the Democratic Party. Those are two very different things.

Very different? Really? Who does the liberal left vote for? Which candidates do they support?

Really??? They don’t??? Again, show me the links that prove that. And anyone who doesn’t admitt that FOX is the spokespeople of the GOP is just in self-denial.

Already did. And for God’s sake, you’re talking to people who actually watch the network. We already know you’re lying. You’re not fooling anyone by saying this over and over again.

Maybe not all the time…

So now you’re arguing with yourself? Yeesh.

Watching the network over the last decade as I have, shows a distinct pattern. You may not want to admitt that and prefer to cling to the ‘fair & balanced’ mythology, but it is reality whether to acknowledge it or not.

Does retelling this lie over and over again make you feel better? Do you think you’re accomplishing anything?

I’d understand if you were telling a room full of people who didn’t know any better. But knowing that most of the people here are media savvy, and that nobody is buying your tripe, it seems like a waste of time. I just don’t understand your goal… who do you think you’re fooling?

JamesA1102 says:
June 18, 2010 at 10:38 am

Two points…I don’t recall any harsh criticism of Bush from O’Reilly, even though I think he is one of the fairer commentators on FOX.

You don’t recall it… well, I do. Perhaps since I actually watch it, and you “pretend” watch it, that should help in deciding who’s opinion is more valid.

And two, Smith wasn’t on 2 hours a day during Katrina. He was the reporter on the scene in New Orleans.

Are you sure about that? He’s been an anchor of two programs for a long time. “Studio B” started in 2002, replacing another show hosted by Smith. Smith has been anchoring “FOX Report” since 1999.

There is certainly not anything that equals the harsh criticism of President Obama by Olbermann and Matthews on Tuesday night.

Yes, it would have been better if Hannity dyed himself orange and spit more. If you’re looking for FNC to do what MSNBC does, you’re making a mistake. FNC likes being ahead in the ratings… why would they change to be lower than that?

Anyway… I provided evidence of Hannity disagreeing with Bush. Now, you move the goal posts (like John T before you) to say, “Yeah, he disagreed… but he wasn’t rude about it.” Well, that’s not what we’re talking about, is it? You said they mouth RNC taking points and never disagree… if you want to amend that statement now, fine. Just don’t pretend like you haven’t been proven wrong on your previous statement.

If this is the best you can come up with out of 8 years of FOX’s coverage of the Bush Presidency, it’s pretty lame.

Yes… years after the Presidency is over… and hundreds upon hundreds of broadcasts later, this is the first thing Google turned up. I guess it’s real easy to demand things from a while ago… because who’s going to sit around doing hours worth or research, only to have you move the posts later? Not me.

Again… we get the game you’re playing. We’re not impressed.

Who said I watch them at the same time? Plus there is this little nifty device called a DVR.

So you spend all your time watching FNC (because you apparently know what everyone on every show has said… ever)… AND then you roll the DVR back to watch MSNBC. Wow. Do you get out at all?

Since you’re the self-proscribed expert on FOX you should be able to come up with more than on isolated example of one FOX show host disagreeing with a Bush policy over the 8 years he was in office.

One, I’m not the expert… YOU said you “knew” because you watched them all the time. Apparently, since you’re talking about the whole network, you watch all their programming, everyday, all day. Again, wow. But as I said, you want me to pull up transcripts, and read through thousands of programs to find examples for you? And you don’t see that as an unreasonable request?

Better yet, you tell me how to prove you wrong. You tell me what you want me to find, and the best way to find it. Show me that you’re not requesting things you know to be unreasonable, simply so nobody can argue against you.

Sometimes they support and vote of third party candidates like Ralph Nader and the Green Party.

PUH-lease. As I recall, the MoveOn and Daily KOS sponsored a DEMOCRATIC debate… not a “Green Party” debate.

No I’m talking to idealogues who are in self denial.

IOW, people who don’t simply take your unfounded left-wing attack, and say, “Yup, uh-huh, I agree?” Apparently, denial = not agreeing with everything I say.

Sad.

Interesting how you cropped that quote to omit the link showing FOX has copied GOP talking points.

Because it’s meaningless, and just another “example” from an left-wing, anti-FOX advocate source. Of course they’re going to say that! You don’t ask a fisherman to give you tips on how to cook steak… and you don’t ask the far left to give you honesty about FNC.

And really… you don’t think that some hosts and programs on MSNBC “parrot” Democratic talking points? Your selective outrage is obvious.

Because I’m not lying. Does it make you feel better to deny reality and just pretend that I’m lying because you can’t handle the truth?

So you really believe this. Even though the serious world and evidence doesn’t support it… you believe it. Wow, a true believer… how sad.

I’m not fooling anyone. It is you who is fooling yourself.

Well… you’re half right. The first half, to be specific.

James… you gotta get a grip, buddy. Turn off the television. Go outside. Quit being so hateful. It’s not helping anyone. Not you, not your political party, not MSNBC, nobody. Nobody’s buying your story… sorry.

James, your ‘logic’ doesn’t make sense. If Fox News is nothing but a shill for the GOP, and Beck was known as a critic of Bush, then they wouldn’t have hired Beck, would they? In other words, you’re once again locked into your far left philosophy and seek to vilify Fox no matter what. And if you truly believe Fox is that unfair, then why do you watch? You know they’re always lying, but you continue to watch and know everything they say? Yeah, right. You’re the biggest liar on the site. Fox is always presenting differing viewpoints. O’Reilly and Hannity are especially known for having guests who disagree with them. Just recently, O’Reilly’s guest was vilifying Beck for his gold advertisements. Think you’ll see opposing views on Olbermann’s show? But do you ever criticize the left? Nope. Just the right. Then you point at posters on the right and say how biased they are for presenting viewpoints from the right. You do the same from the far left and continue to hypocritically picture yourself of some paragon of fairness. What a joke.

But James, since Royal King has been missing for a couple of days, you are doing a good job of filling in the arrogance gap.

But James, since Royal King has been missing for a couple of days, you are doing a good job of filling in the arrogance gap.

I leave the arrogance, and hypocrisy, to you.

James, your ‘logic’ doesn’t make sense. If Fox News is nothing but a shill for the GOP, and Beck was known as a critic of Bush, then they wouldn’t have hired Beck, would they?

Since Bush was out of office when Beck started on FOX, I really don’t think it was an issue.

In other words, you’re once again locked into your far left philosophy and seek to vilify Fox no matter what.

Not trying to vilify them, just be honest about them. You should try honesty sometime.

know they’re always lying, but you continue to watch and know everything they say?

I never said that FOX lied. Don’t dishonestly put words in my mouth.

You’re the biggest liar on the site.

Since you just accused me of saying something that I never said, I think you have that honor.

And if you truly believe Fox is that unfair, then why do you watch?

Probably the same reason you and many others here watch MSNBC.

O’Reilly and Hannity are especially known for having guests who disagree with them. Just recently, O’Reilly’s guest was vilifying Beck for his gold advertisements.

Good for him. But again I never said guests on FOX shows didn’t critiicze Beck.

Think you’ll see opposing views on Olbermann’s show?

And when have I ever defended Olbermann for that??

But do you ever criticize the left? Nope.

Well I do but in other forums not here. Just as I assume you criticize the right in other forums.

Then you point at posters on the right and say how biased they are for presenting viewpoints from the right. You do the same from the far left and continue to hypocritically picture yourself of some paragon of fairness.

When have I ever called myself a paragon of fairness??? There you go again dishonestly putting words in mouth.

And it would be nice if you occasionally held yourself to the same standard that you seem to hold me to, but hypocrites never do that.

Obama’s ignorance and arrogance hurting the U.S. and destroying the churches. military, economy and legal system. Obama needs to be impeached and asap.

What a LIAR old Keith is! He has been Obama’s butt-boy since he announced for President! Now that the ignorant doofus sees that his Messiah is a MESS, he is running at full speed, AWAY from Comrade Obozo.

I really cannot see ANY way Olbermann could bemore of a BHO’s spokesman that what he has always been. He is such an arrogant person, almost as arrogant at BHO, but then that would be impossible even for Olbermann. WHY are so many people not paying attention to the real news. YES, I mean FoxNews. Yes, they do give the true facts and yes, you can make up your own mind. As for MSNBC or NBC, CBS, ABC or any other, they only tell you what the left wants you to hear. You have no way to decide, because they tell you these things as they are true gospel. NEVER a word about what this administration does that definitely is the wrong thing. Come on you BIG media, tell the right AND wrong side of each subject, PLEASE!

You don’t recall it… well, I do. Perhaps since I actually watch it, and you “pretend” watch it, that should help in deciding who’s opinion is more valid.

Can you prove you actually watch FOX??? I don’t think you can prove that, at least not on this forum. But I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.

But back to the main point, I don’t remember any harsh criticism of Bush by O’Reilly.

Are you sure about that? He’s been an anchor of two programs for a long time. “Studio B” started in 2002, replacing another show hosted by Smith. Smith has been anchoring “FOX Report” since 1999.

I’m pretty sure he was the FOX correspondent in New Orleans during Katrina. Soladad O’Brian was the CNN correspondent there and she was the host of their morning show at the time.

Yes, it would have been better if Hannity dyed himself orange and spit more. If you’re looking for FNC to do what MSNBC does, you’re making a mistake. FNC likes being ahead in the ratings… why would they change to be lower than that?

Hannity doesn’t spit???

And FNC does cater to it’s audience to maintain high ratings, a conservative Republican audience.

Anyway… I provided evidence of Hannity disagreeing with Bush. Now, you move the goal posts (like John T before you) to say, “Yeah, he disagreed… but he wasn’t rude about it.” Well, that’s not what we’re talking about, is it?

No what we’re talking about is the same type of harsh criticism of Bush by FOX News hosts as shown by Olbermann and Matthews the other night. And all you provided was one example of Sean Hannity questioning a Bush Administration policy, which most of the Republican party establishment disagreed with, but no examples of the same kind of harsh criticism.

You said they mouth RNC taking points and never disagree… if you want to amend that statement now, fine. Just don’t pretend like you haven’t been proven wrong on your previous statement.

No, I never said that. Like Writer I see you like to dishonestly put words in other people’s mouths. What I said in response to this statement by you:

you believe that FNC is the worst possible thing ever, and that all they do is spout RNC talking points. which was you again dishonestly putting words in my mouth, was:

Maybe not all the time, but is has been proven that they do it: http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/fox-news-reprints-gop-talking-points-fo

And since most of the GOP party establishment disagreed with Bush on immigration, I really don’t think this disputes anything I said. And I mean the stuff I really said, not the words you’re trying to dishonestly put in my mouth.

Yes… years after the Presidency is over… and hundreds upon hundreds of broadcasts later, this is the first thing Google turned up. I guess it’s real easy to demand things from a while ago… because who’s going to sit around doing hours worth or research, only to have you move the posts later? Not me.

Well not years but 18 months after Bush’s Presidency is over. And you said:

FNC routinely criticized Bush during his administration for a wide variety of reasons.

Now surely if they routinely criticized Bush then it should take that much time to find several examples of it.

Again… we get the game you’re playing. We’re not impressed.

I’m not playing any game, just telling the truth. Guess you’re not impressed with the truth.

So you spend all your time watching FNC (because you apparently know what everyone on every show has said… ever)… AND then you roll the DVR back to watch MSNBC. Wow. Do you get out at all?

There you go again dishonetly putting words in my mouth. I never said I watch it all the time or even MSNBC all the time. But I do watch both enough to know they both have a distinct ideology.

One, I’m not the expert… YOU said you “knew” because you watched them all the time. Apparently, since you’re talking about the whole network, you watch all their programming, everyday, all day. Again, wow. But as I said, you want me to pull up transcripts, and read through thousands of programs to find examples for you? And you don’t see that as an unreasonable request?

Better yet, you tell me how to prove you wrong. You tell me what you want me to find, and the best way to find it. Show me that you’re not requesting things you know to be unreasonable, simply so nobody can argue against you.

Well you said: FNC routinely criticized Bush during his administration for a wide variety of reasons. If that is the case it shouldn’t be too hard to find at least 5 examples of Bush being criticized by a FOX News host over the 8 years that President Bush was in office. And remember to include links.

PUH-lease. As I recall, the MoveOn and Daily KOS sponsored a DEMOCRATIC debate… not a “Green Party” debate.

So anyone who sponsors a political party’s debate is affiliated with that party. Hhhmm…If I recall Fox News sponsored several Republican debates in 2007 & 2008. So you’re saying that FOX News is affiliated with the Republican party?

Also, you have a myopic view of the left. You seem to think that these two organizations define the entire left when they don’t. Nor is the entire left aligned with the Democratic party. If that were the case then Ralph Nader would not have gotten as many votes in 2000 and Al Gore would have been President instead of Bush.

Because it’s meaningless, and just another “example” from an left-wing, anti-FOX advocate source. Of course they’re going to say that! You don’t ask a fisherman to give you tips on how to cook steak… and you don’t ask the far left to give you honesty about FNC.

So when confronted by evidence and facts that are at odds with your opinions and that you can’t refute, you just try to discredit the source.

And really… you don’t think that some hosts and programs on MSNBC “parrot” Democratic talking points? Your selective outrage is obvious.

I never said they didn’t but can you show me any proof that they have?

So you really believe this. Even though the serious world and evidence doesn’t support it… you believe it. Wow, a true believer… how sad.

I’m not the sad one here.

James… you gotta get a grip, buddy. Turn off the television. Go outside. Quit being so hateful. It’s not helping anyone. Not you, not your political party, not MSNBC, nobody. Nobody’s buying your story… sorry.

I’m not selling a story. I’m just telling the truth. You just can’t handle it. Sorry that you find the truth so “hateful”.