So that’s what all your hopes are pining on Larry?

I’d be more concerned with that 8 o’clock slot, and Maddow’s footsteps coming fast behind you!
Or maybe Tawana has his eyes on it, and might have to summon his rent-a-mob racial agitators to help him get it.

He will win the primary and but lose Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania in the general.  He’s politically stupid.

He won’t be the nominee.

Box these 3 for the top 2 spots:

Huntsman – Romney / Rubio

Lawrence O’Donnell: Perry’s ‘Ponzi Scheme’ Comments Could Lose Him The Election

Crazy Larry thinks telling the truth is … crazy !

King Obama now out campaigning on his nonexistent bill . He ‘s letting his inner Organizer out and looking desperate , frantic and actually unhinged . Certainly nothing presidential about him now.

Not too late to cut him loose , Dems .

Tollbooth !

Him who, Obama maybe.

When the seniors you left wing criminals terrorize with your Obama regime lies learn the ” real ” truth about Social Security not being there for them, their children and especially their granchildren at the hands of the lying democrat party, that party along with Barack’s reign of terror over America will be over.

Hey Larry .

Tim Russert was the gold standard in his business .

Your colleagues are Chris Matthews , Ed Schultz and … Al Sharpton !

What Tim Russert say now ?

( When he finished throwing up , that is ).

Larry needs to talk with Chris Mathews.

Parry is a low grade moron. These comments buried any hope for him. Not mention siding with the inquisition over Gallileo. What an idiot.

No. The comments won’t singularly lose him the election, but they won’t help get him the nomination either.

It may be get for winning plaudits from the Tea Party and other far right activists. Although there are more realistic attitudes that recognize the political and economic realities facing more of the middle classes in the current climate.

All your comments are made in the extremes of language. 

If there a little more realism applied, perhaps they might be more legible.

O’Donnell is hyperventilating over nothing, as usual. Sarah Palin will announce her candidacy before the end of this month; then Perry will saddle his mule & amble on back to Texas.

BigEddie,

Just imagine if FOX hired a 6pm host who railed against “black interlopers”, or led a protest/riot where the congregation (race mob) was yelling “kill the gay” – as they yelled “kill the Jew” in Sharpton’s Crown heights “protest”!?

The “beauty” of Social Security, by Paul Samuelson. 
At the height of Social Security’s political and economic success, Paul Samuelson, Nobelist and America’s top liberal economist of the era, explained why it was such a success…

The beauty of social insurance is that it is actuarially unsound. Everyone who reaches retirement age is given benefit privileges that far exceed anything he has paid in — exceed his payments by more than ten times (or five times counting employer payments)!

How is it possible? It stems from the fact that the national product is growing at a compound interest rate and can be expected to do so for as far ahead as the eye cannot see. Always there are more youths than old folks in a growing population.

More important, with real income going up at 3% per year, the taxable base on which benefits rest is always much greater than the taxes paid historically by the generation now retired.

Social Security is squarely based on what has been called the eight wonder of the world — compound interest. A growing nation is the greatest Ponzi game ever contrived.

– Writing in Newsweek, 1967 [Quoted by Schieber & Shoven]http://blog.scrivener.net/2005/02/beauty-of-social-security-by-paul.html

That would be interesting, but I doubt Perry will toddle off back to Texas because Palin or anyone else enters the race. I credit him with a bit more staying power than that.

Why do you call him “King Obama”?

Chiming in on the losing end of this Ponzi scheme argument certainly doesn’t help O’Donnell with his credibility problems. After everything that has been written about it in the past couple of days, this makes O’Donnell look pretty naive on Social Security by using it as a point to Bash Rick Perry.
Perry’s remarks don’t add to or detract from my opinion of him as a candidate. I think he was basically right, but I’m not crazy about the way he presented it.

What lib media bias?http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/09/pbs_alters_transcript_to_hide_obama_gaffe.html way to go pbs

Dont u mean “Galeo”?   http://www.breitbart.tv/nbcs-sharpton-provides-debate-analysis-galeo-and-your-mama/

Thanks for putting that out there. There have been many profound writings like that by reputable people that see to be swept under the rug by the liberal media in support of their party. 2012 should be a campaign against the media as much as big government and Keynesianism.

I really enjoyed this Lawrence O’Donnell segment ffrm MSNBC.  Thanks for making it available to us.  His comments were well-founded and insightful.  I like his comparison of Perry’s snarky remarks with Charles Ponzi’s parting comments, upon being finally let out of prison (“I went looking for trouble, and I found it.”)  Priceless!

I do have to admit that I enjoy watching Perry roll up onto his toes with a cocky smug grimace (I suppose that’s what he considers a sardonic smile), as he spews these inanities.   It’s like watching a high school boy warm up for an argument he’s sure he’s gonna win … and he’s got about as much self control.  Nonetheless, Texas is a very big state, and they did vote Perry into office.  They must like his brand of strife, contempt and posturing.  And that’s so sad.  

Texas, best advice to you is: go to Israel, and study their methods of watering crops from underground (they’ve got an underground hose system, which is what makes their deserts fertile.)  You’re gonna need it!  Of course, that won’t put out the fires (that keep building this entire growing season); and earthquakes could disconnect your hoses … but you better implement a better system, if you’re gonna thumb your noses at God.  Strife will attract disasters to you, and abort any miracles coming your way.  That’s how the Kingdom works, and those who don’t practice peace, love, joy and hope (towards everyone), cannot enter into it.  Judgment starts at the house of God, and in your case, it may have come to roost.

Huntsman ?(the only sane one in the bunch). LOL

If I were O’Donnell I’d be more concerned of falling victim as another terminated MSNBC radical on-air personality who lost their job due in Comcast’s cleaning up after years of demise

Nobody speak about reality .  Especially  to the all impotant voters .

“Like all Ponzi schemes, the winners in Social Security were those who came in early.  The first retirees did get something for nothing.  The so called Greatest Generation made out even better.  They were the first generation relieved of the age old need to support their own parents and they came in early enough to fully collect fully on their own contributions.  Many of the boomers are not going to be as lucky for three reasons.  Not only is the system running out of money, but many of them failed to save or are over invested in illiquid real estate.  Add in those who made decisions in their own personal lives that frayed social ties.   Many didn’t have children who can help them as they age.  Others don’t have good relationships with their children and grandchildren because of issues of abandonment and divorce. As a result, for many boomers the retirement years are looking far from secure.  Things are also grim for those under 50, as they will certainly not get out what they paid in; but they are in peak earning years and have time to adjust.  As for anyone under age 30, many of them  have inherited the worst of all possible worlds: chaotic personal lives, the need to have to save for their own retirement, a terrible job market, student loans for degrees in fields that aren’t economically viable, and a government that will compel them to bail out their elders.   Samuelson’s incredibly optimistiic assumptions must read like a fairy tale to them.   ”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/09/ponzi_scheme_pedigree.html

Because Queen Obama  would be rude .

The Royal Obamas deserve some respect .

Social Security would have be solvent for at least another 22 years if the Fed kept its hand out of the kitty according to the GAO.

BMG Im starting to wonder if you arent a troll for the left!  Your posts are a caricature.

Another Texas governor who drops his “g’s” and scorns elites is running for president and the whispers are the same: lightweight, incurious, instinctual

He’s like Bush only without the brains,” cracked one former Republican governor who knows Perry, repeating a joke that has made the rounds.

The Texan’s loyalists reject the suggestion, asserting that it owes to political bias and sour grapes, but Perry himself seems to welcome the low bar. He cracked on the campaign trail earlier this month that the difference between him and Bush was that he went to Texas A&M and the former president attended Yale

Look at Texas – at the bottom in education, health coverage, minimum wage jobs, high school graduates, etc.

Rick Perry. Have you heard him speak!
Here is a funny video.
http://www.youtube.com/user/hotchkissrecords#p/a/u/1/cILyxqZLhNY

Former President George W. Bush gave Governor Perry a beautiful pair of embroidered cowboy boots. The best thing about them: one sole is marked “L,” the other “R.”

Former President George W. Bush gave Governor Perry a beautiful pair of embroidered cowboy boots. The best thing about them: one sole is marked “L,” the other “R.”

When Governor Perry was asked who was his favorite Founding Father, he answered, “Sam Houston.”

When Governor Perry was asked who was his favorite Founding Father, he answered, “Sam Houston.”

It took a while to get Governor Perry to run for president. When an aide suggested it, he replied, “I’m already President of Texas.”

Governor Perry disputed the recent U. S. census survey of Texas. He thought cows and pigs should be counted too.

Since it isn’t a Ponzi scheme, as its supporters allege, then why must it be so vigorously defended? 

See, what people forget about the Ponzi scheme is that its greatest supporters are those who are receiving its payouts.  Their individual best play collectively is to assure that new victims are added into the base of the pyramid scheme.  Where social security differs from Madoff is that if you brought Bernie enough new victims then he might let you out at cost.

On a tour of the Grand Canyon. Governor Perry commented, “This would be really beautiful country if they only filled up that hole.”

When Governor Perry learned he was meeting President Obama, he requested an interpreter.

“Starbucks on 93 and B’way.Uptight Queen barrista named Jay has an attitude problem”
- Democrat Progressive & mayoral hopeful Alec Baldwin, tweeting on Wednesday.
===========================================================

A GAY SLUR BY ALEC BALDWIN! – and NO media coverage?

A GAY SLUR BY ALEC BALDWIN! – and NO media coverage?

A GAY SLUR BY ALEC BALDWIN! – and NO media coverage?

FILE: Liberal Media Bias

Oddly enough, Governor Perry defended the President in the recent birther controversy. He said, “We should never discriminate against our President just because he was born in Kenya.”

Governor Perry thought the movie, “Out of Africa” was about the life of President Obama

It’s not that Governor Perry is dumb, but Sarah Palin snickered to a friend, “Not too swift.”

Michelle Bachmann is so glad Rick Perry joined the race. Now she won’t be the only lunatic running for President.

Governor Perry doesn’t just think that the Constitution should match the Bible. For a long time, he thought the Bible was the Constitution

Once Governor Perry was asked how George Washington crossed the Delaware. He responded, “He raised up his hands and the waters did part asunder.”

When Governor Perry was asked to explain his remarks that Texas should secede from the Union, he explained, “If at first you don’t secede, try, try again.”

Recently the Governor saw a documentary about the Civil War. He didn’t like it–thought the ending was a downer.

Governor Perry’s favorite history book is, you guessed it, “Gone With The Wind.”

Governor Perry is very traditional about morality. He thinks Federal funds should be used to pay for chastity belts.

Governor Perry surprised a lot of people by coming out in favor of same-sex marriage. In a statement, he wrote, “People should always have the same sex. No funny or kinky stuff.”

 lot of new jobs have been created in Texas since Governor Perry took over. They’re at the 7-Eleven, the Walmart and the Dairy Queen (Didn’t say they were great jobs.).

Texans are so happy Governor Perry is running for President. Now he’ll be our problem too.

Interestingly, the Governor does support labor unions. As long as they favor low-paying jobs without benefits and security, they’re fine with him!

It’s not that Governor Perry favors the rich over the poor. It’s just that the poor don’t give enough to his campaigns (Of course, he is remedying this by supporting more tax breaks for the wealthy.).

The Governor favors educational equality for everyone. He believes no one is entitled to a quality public education.

Governor Perry supports prayer in public schools. Considering all the education cuts, students will need all the help they can get.

The Governor attended a Latino convention, and joked about the new head of Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission, Jose Cuevas. He said he was a appropriate choice, given his name was similar to the tequila brand Jose Cuervo. (THIS REALLY HAPPENED)

After a tour of a Texas Instruments plant, the Governor asked, “Where are the guitars?”

Strangely Governor Perry is for the teaching of evolution. He thinks kids should be taught it by watching, “The Flinstones.”

And you are another pathetic lib who drops his pants!

Governor Perry is disappointed by gun control laws. He thinks it should be legal to possess howitzers and machine guns.

Telling the truth will win an election, not lose it.

That’s because no one can understand Barry’s jive talking!

When asked by a reporter if climate change is real, Governor Perry said, “Sure it’s real. Spring follows Winter. Summer follows Spring, etc.”

Clearly you have nothing of value to add here. I would, respectfully ask that you stop taking up and wasting space.

It is so nice to see a lib trembling in his pants at the sight of a real presidential candidate and not just a Community Organizer!

In other words, he tells the truth.

Naturally Governor Perry is in favor of illegal immigration. He has three undocumented workers on his ranch, two in the garden, and one cleaning the house.

Yeah, your comments show that your  public education  reflects the  ”no (-) left behind” philosophy.

Hollywood producers are fascinated by Governor Perry’s candidacy. Wags think they’ll make a new horror movie, “Bush: The Revenge.”

No matter who you are or what your opinion is, MSDNC will attack you if you have an “R”, next to your name.  Those “tolerant” liberals are a hateful violent group.  ANYONE who runs against Obama will probably win.  And they know it.

12volt dead battery, were you born an annoying asshat, or developed your talent under the tutelage of unionized indoctrinators known laughingly as teachers? 

A guy walks into a bar. He orders a drink, and later another. He sees Governor Perry on television.
The man asks, “Who is that guy?”
The bartender tells him, “It’s Governor Rick Perry. He’s running for President of the United States.”
“Why is he so angry?”
“He says we should stop pushes taxes on the people.”
“I agree,” said the man, slightly buzzed, but still lucid. “We should stop pushing Texas on the people.”

If that’s your criteria I’m sure that you don’t support Obama either.  Correct?

The Perry Campaign is trotting out a new slogan, “Finishing the job W. started!”

…That’s cruel!

Dear sir,I would, respectfully ask that you to EAT ME!

By this logic, the U.S. dollar is a “Ponzi scheme”.

Telling the truth might cost you the election. He is absolutely right.

O’Donnell is right about this.  Calling social security a Ponzi scheme will scare the elderly away from you and rile them up to vote for the other guy.  I think Mitt Romney has established himself as the only hope against Obama.  Anyone besides Mitt Romney or Huntsman (who has no chance of getting the nomination) will be seen as an enemy of social security.  

O’Donnell is right about this.  Calling social security a Ponzi scheme will scare the elderly away from you and rile them up to vote for the other guy.  I think Mitt Romney has established himself as the only hope against Obama.  Anyone besides Mitt Romney or Huntsman (who has no chance of getting the nomination) will be seen as an enemy of social security.  

Remember, when referring to Lawrence, we must include the description that he is a Socialist.  Something like “Socialist Lawrence O’Donnell”.  It’s important because it signals that his belief system is disordered and wrong.

As for the Ponzi Scheme of Social Security, I think people want the truth. For too long, the Liberals have been lying to people.  People are waking up.

This is not a leftist position.  Even Karl Rove, Sarah Palin, and Newt Gingrich know that the Republican party cannot be seen as an enemy of social security.  

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male.Gay bashin’, black fearin’, poor fightin’, tree killin’, regioal
leaders of salesFrat housin’, keg tappin’, shirt tuckin’, back slappin’
haters of hippies like me.Tree huggin’, peace lovin’, pot smokin’, porn
watchin’ lazyass hippies like me.Tree huggin’, love makin’, pro choicen, gay
weddin’, widespread diggin’ hippies like me.Skin color-blinded,
conspiracy-minded, protestors of corporate greed,We who have nothing and
most likely will ‘till we all wind up locked up in jailsBy conservative
Christian, right wing Republican, straight, white, American
males,.Diamonds and dogs, boys and girls, living together in two
separate worldsFollowing leaders of mountains of shame, looking for someone
to blame.Diamonds and dogs, boys and girls, living together in two
separate worldsFollowing leaders of mountains of shame, looking for someone
to blame.I know who I like to blame:Conservative Christian, right
wing Republican, straight, white, American males,Soul savin’, flag wavin’,
Rush lovin’, land pavin’ personal friends to the QuaylesQuite diligently
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peace lovin’, pot smokin’, barefootin’ folk-singin’ hippies like me.Tree
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-Todd Snider
[Thanks to anandap@earthlink.net for lyrics]

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

If you have a college education, you should request a refund, since it didn’t take.  You just copied and pasted that comment from another site without giving credit.  Plagiarist! 
I knew there was no way you wrote that comment…it was grammatically correct without spelling errors, and it made sense. 

Life without douchebags is a life without you. Because you can account for all of them.

12volt

I’d slap you, but sh!it stains.

Upset you Are! (sorry Yoda)

BTW Get a sense of humor and a life as well.

Do you believe that Mitt Romney is a socialist as well?  This has nothing to do with socialism.  The fact is that this is a very popular program.  It would be like calling the military a Ponzi scheme.  

That is so sadly true and representative of that sort of commentary.

And the award for “Most Annoying Poster” goes to 12 Voltbrain with 40 comments on this thread alone.  Most are C&Ps, not an original thought in his head.

This is one reason Obama’s numbers are low. The right just hates him and the left is pissed off he didn’t get rid of the Bush tax cut for the wealthy.But his favoribilty numbers are about the same as Bush43 and Reagan 14 months before their 2nd term.

Don’t you need to make another Beer Run?

yeah and throwing money at education has worked so well…

 Stonepark, it’s 9/11 weekend.  Let’s all love each other for once, alright? 

Nice stereotype from the tolerant left…

Funny Song Too! Glad you know it!

Allan Lichtman, the American University professor whose election
formula has correctly called every president since Ronald Reagan’s 1984
re-election, has a belated birthday present for Barack Obama: Rest easy, your
re-election is in the bag.

“Even if I am being conservative, I don’t see how Obama can lose,”
says Lichtman, the brains behind The Keys to the White
House.

Lichtman’s prediction helps to explain a quirk in some polling
that finds that while Americans disapprove of the president, they still think
he will win re-election. [Check out political
cartoons about the 2012 GOP field.]

Working for the president are several of Lichtman’s keys, tops
among them incumbency and the scandal-free nature of his
administration.Undermining his re-election is a lack of charisma and leadership
on key issues, says Lichtman, even including healthcare, Obama’s
crowning achievement.

Lichtman developed his 13 Keys in 1981. They test the performance
of the party that holds the presidency. If six or more of the 13 keys go
against the party in power, then the opposing party wins.“The keys have figured
into popular politics a bit,” Lichtman says. “They’ve never missed. They’ve
been right seven elections in a row. A number that goes way beyond statistical
significance in a record no other system even comes close to.”

Lichtman’s earned quite the reputation. In 1992, it seemed likely
former President George H.W. Bush would be re-elected, having reached historic
highs in popularity after he launched a war that pushed Iraqi troops out of
Kuwait. But Lichtman thought otherwise and that factored into former Arkansas
Gov. Bill Clinton’s decision to challenge Bush.“I got a call from this woman
with a thick southern drawl. It was Clinton’s special assistant. She wanted to
know if it was true that a Democrat could
win. I assured her it was and I sent Clinton a copy of my book and a memo and
the rest is history.” [See photos of the
Obamas behind the scenes.]

In 2005, Lichtman also hit a home run when he said that the
political stage was looking so bad for Republicans that
Democrats could pick a name out of the phone book and win in 2008, the year a
little known first-term senator became the first African-American to win the
presidency.

Now Lichtman’s predicting a repeat performance by Obama.

Just wanted to share. I hope you enjoyed it, Dear Madam.

You are one fucking obnoxious black man posting 30+ times on this story. Get a life, troll.

What is so difficult about acknowledging how messed up Social Security has become?
The only difference between a Ponzi scheme and Social Security is that Charles Ponzi intended to steal from new investors. S.S. was set up with good intentions but is built upon the same principles as the traditional Ponzi scheme. Take the money from new investers to paid old investers. Just like Ponzi, we just can’t seem to get enough new investers any more.

Resist he much.

Wow, Perry hasn’t even received the nomination, and Larry has him losing the presidency?

Calm down slingblade. You don’t hacve to read my post. It kind of like tv . You can always change the channel. Thats why they have buttons on your remote control as well as different message boards. You could also just ignore my messages. But i’m glad to get under your skin. Cause your a Racist!

You must be thinking of aunt Zetuini and uncle Omar. Hey, have you heard that uncle Omar was mysteriously bailed out of jail and is now whereabouts unknown?

“fucking obnoxious black man “,,,,,,,,,,,,,,You show your true colors with this line!

Romney is a populist. 0bama is a socialist.

Volt the Dolt is the biggest loser there is.  It is no wonder why he spends all day and night posting on websites.  In other words he is a typical liberal.

;)

Naturally Obama is in favor of illegal immigration as he is an illegal immigrant.

Romney isn’t quite the Socialist the Socialist Lawrence is, but Romney is not very Conservative.

As for the military, it’s an enumerated element of our Constitution. Social Security is obviously a Ponzi Scheme.  It would be illegal if a citizen tried to pull it.  Do some searching and read up on the subject.

The problem is people think they are putting money towards their retirement, but in actuality, the money is going to people who are retired now.  The money they put it was spent long ago.  

“Mitt Romney was marching in a Martin Luther King Day parade, and made a valiant effort to reach across cultures and connect with African-Americans [on screen: Romney asking a group of black children 'Who let the dogs out, whoo whoo!']. This courageous attempt to communicate across cultures has many pundits asking the question ‘Is Mitt Romney retarded?’” –Stephen Colbert

I’m not interested in what Larry says.  It is Richard Maddow who is the most inciteful (wo)man on PMSNBC (which is being like the world’s tallest midget).

Anyone besides Mitt Romney or Huntsman (who has no chance of getting the
nomination) will be seen as an enemy of social security.

And hence, we have the reason that the MSM will hype it. To perpetuate the lie that SSI is solvent, and it is republicans that want to destroy it. Kinda hard to destroy something that is on a course to self-destruct anyway. But why bring up that nasty little fact to the millions that rely on it, when someone else can be demonized for it? Kinda like the ponzi scheme that was Fannie and Freddy that Frank, Dodd, and Waters jumped on republicans about in the beginning of the Bush years.

The leftist position is the one they have taken: lie and blame. Wow, and the leftist leader, Barry (community organizer) 0bama is an expert at lie and blame. What a perfect match for such a morally bankrupt party.

It is.

Yea, so far from the election, its silly. But I do not think Perry’s purpose in all this is anything but to toughen up Mitt.

I don’t see the next president being more conservative than Romney no matter what.  Military being enumerated doesn’t mean it can’t be defunded.  What keeps it well funded is the belief that we need a strong national defense.  Where in the constitution does it say we need to occupy Iraq, Afghanistan, and be a part of NATO?  Calling something a Ponzi scheme is a bit to simple.  The fact is that there is no intentional fraud going on.  If we call social security a “Ponzi scheme” we could also call our monetary system a “Ponzi scheme” in which case our entire economy would be a Ponzi scheme.  I’m not saying you would be wrong to call these things Ponzi schemes, but the term could apply to almost anything in America.

It’s not just the “MSM”.  Fox is saying it too.

 I don’t believe in any sort of populist movement in America.  From my observation, it’s a pure plutocracy. 

I guess the question I’m wondering is who is the beneficiary of the Ponzi scheme?  If you say the ones that paid into the system earlier, well those are the elderly and that’s how it’s supposed to go.  The problem with social security isn’t so much fraud but the way the system was designed.  Somehow we were supposed to pool our money together and the money would hold its value for all of us when we retire.  Unfortunately, it didn’t account for inflation, population, and life expectancy to increase.  That’s why we’re in the mess we’re in.  I really doubt if it was intentional.  If we call social security a Ponzi scheme, the same could be said about real estate, money lending, and the stock market.

and he’s only sane on two matters:  evolution and climate change

other than that, he’s very, very conservative

this is true

the “texas miracle”

what is it, 1958?

 Yes it does, that’s why Ron Paul is considered “unelectable”. 

The accounting and structure of Social Security is exactly like a Ponzi scheme.  And the people who will be hurt in next year’s election are the Democrats, who are lying to people about the financial solidity of their Social Security retirement checks.  They are presiding over a bankrupt system — the numbers here can’t be denied.  Unfunded future entitlements for the elderly are more than $100 trillion!  The intellectual dishonesty of the Democrats — who refuse to admit the insolvency of the system — will backfire.  People want honesty, rather than the pathetic, and easily refuted spin dished out on MNSBC.

Telling the truth is what Walter Mondale did in 1984.  Guess what, it lost him the election.

when cheney and rove criticize you…….you’re finished.  

So you are the one person who watches Stephen Colbert.

Instead of attacking Rick Perry, why doesn’t Lawrence O’Donell devote an episode of his show to explaining to his listeners the exact acounting and financial state of the Social Security system?   Of course, Larry won’t do this.  He’s afraid to do it.

And for a good reason.  Because it would show viewers how the Democrats destroyed people’s retirement money.  He won’t need to use the word Ponzi scheme, if it offends him so much, but even a straight, unbiased presentation of the numbers will make it clear to everyone that this is precisely what the Democrats have created here. 

He doesn’t Know how. He (STONEY ) feeds off other peoples hate.

87% of *republicans* think social security is good for america

that’s all you need to know about perry’s chances in the primary

Isn’t this the guy who claimed that he is a ‘Socialist?” When did he become a Socialist? When he made his first, second, or third million, in our Capitalistic economic structure? LOL.  I challenge this guy to give his [nasty] millions he earned under Capitalism, to the poor and homeless. I’m quite sure this silly guy would prefer to keep his millions to himself, though. Phoney liberals…

In theory I’m in complete agreement with you.  In the real world, no one wants to lose a paycheck.   Trying to tell someone who benefits from social security that social security is a Ponzi scheme is like telling a devout religious person that God does not exist.  No matter how much facts and logic you use, they have made up their mind and that’s that.  System will go broke in 2025 and then we could raise the issue.  Until then, just concede the debate.

Well, are you a student of spread the wealth? Because if you are you are falling for the “plutocracy” that is giving us socialism. Socialism will insulate the rich even further with entrenched power. Fight that and you will kill two birds with one stone, as it is the rich siding with the liberal “spread the wealth” scheme that is perpetuating the rich in comfortable positions of power.

Nigel Farage, leader of the UK Independence Party: “We are being led by a group of college kids with no experience in the real world.” Wow, if that ain’t the 0bama administration backed by wealth!

[Plutocracy] the political control of the state by an oligarchy of the wealthy.

Isn’t it the wealthy who are always demanding more for the “poor” while lining their pockets and gathering the “poor” (and stupid) to vote for their puppets to remain in power, always with the promise of more free this or more free that, to “level” the playing field? The Constitution was to guarantee equal opportunity not equal outcomes.

Just a question to people who want to beat Obama in the generals, who would you rather have go up against him?  Mitt Romney or Rick Perry?  Perry basically conceded Florida to Obama with that Ponzi scheme remark, Obama already bailed out Michigan so they’ll probably take him over Perry.  All Obama has to do is pump a couple trillion into Ohio and Missouri while letting Texas dry up and burn and Obama will be re-elected. 

The way I see it Mitt Romney is the way to go.  Don’t be stupid and give Obama an opening.  Republican nominee should be Mitt Romney.  No need for a primary.

I’m just kidding about no need for a primary, but I think it’s pretty clear cut to me which one is the sure thing and which one is a wildcard.  Mitt Romney reminds me of Aaron Rodgers and Rick Perry reminds me of Tony Romo.  Only a stupid Cowboy fan would take Rick Perry and Tony Romo.

Look at Ron Paul.  He tells the truth about social security, FEMA, our military endeavors, the Federal Reserve, the IRS, American foreign policy, our prison state, health care reform, and he’s unelectable for it.  You can’t be too honest or else you end up like Jimmy Carter.

You mean he drops his pants whenever he’s in the company of a Teatard like yourself. If you give me your address, I’ll send you a nice set of knee pads for your future T-bagging endeavors.   GFYM Stoney.

Lichtman debunked: http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/2010/08/13-keys-make-obamas-re-election.html

LOD, wishful thinking on his part. MSNBC the lowest and sorriest network in tv land.

On the other hand, socialist Lawrence, for those in the country who aren’t socialists they may cheer Perry calling out the need to reform this broken program.  Your solution would be to just keep taxing more so you can dump more money in to programs you like – that is why you are a moron, sorry, meant to say ‘a socialist’.

NASA bureaucrat James Hansen, who has been making a pretty penny by helping Al Gore prop up the global warming hoax, is a veteran of the global cooling hoax popular in the 1970s.

Investor’s Business Daily
reports that a 1971 Washington Post scare piece entitled “U.S.
Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming” fretted that burning fossil fuels
discharges particles into the atmosphere that reflect the sun’s rays
back into space. Emissions over 5–10 years supposedly “could be
sufficient to trigger an ice age.”

The NASA research behind this hysteria was supported by a “computer
program developed by Dr. James Hansen,” the same guy who now refers to
those who won’t drink the global warming Kool-Aid as “court jesters.”

IBD comments:

It’s clear that Hansen is as much a political animal as he
is a scientist. Did he switch from one approaching cataclysm to another
because he thought it would be easier to sell to the public? Was it a
career advancement move or an honest change of heart on science, based
on empirical evidence?

If Hansen wants to change positions again, the time is now.
With NASA having recently revised historical temperature data that
Hansen himself compiled, the door has been opened for him to embrace the
ice age projections of the early 1970s.

Could be he’s feeling a little chill in the air again.H/T MoonbatteryAnd at least Perry will debate. Nobel Peace prize genius and failed presidential contender Algore will not. He thinks science is by consensus, after all.

Hey, cupcake, don’t you love it how Hollyweird so adamantly supports gay marriage, yet most cannot stay married for more than a few years, or don’t marry at all?

Perry is a NO CHANCE at all candidate. He better FORGET IT….

His ideas are EXACTLY how the republicans think. It is ONLY for the RICH and the hell with the MIDDLE CLASS, and the POOR… just so they can protect their BILLIONS of dollars.

0bama’s favorite book is one written by Bill Ayres…Dreams of my father.
And a favorite of 0bama liberals is Rules for Radicals, or how to turn America into a banana republic.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/who_wrote_​dreams_from_​my_fathe_​1.html

Gosh, I don’t know, Larry…

How would YOU characterize a “system” that pays one person with the dollars “invested” by another person (or in this case, the dollars “invested” by other people)?

You know, when Social Security STARTED, a given recipient was paid by taxing 140 people (that is, a given worker’s Social Security tax was 1/140th of the payment to any given recipient).  NOW (because there are so many MORE recipients), that number has dropped to just 3 (or YOUR FICA tax pays 1/3rd of the payment to any given recipient).  As the “Baby Boomers” start reaching the age to COLLECT Social Security, the folly of the SCHEME becomes more problematic.

THAT’S the problem with Liberals like YOU, Larry, you simply REFUSE to accept the FACT that your beloved Government Program is a FINANCIAL FAILURE!

Look how Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were defended by the likes of Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Maxine Waters (insisting that there was NOTHING WRONG with their finanaces) – then BOOM, the Liberal hit the fan, and we all saw for ourselves that they were LYING!  Why they are still in office and allowed in front on “Main Stream” media microphones, just bolsters my point (Liberals REFUSE to accept responsibility for thier FAILURES)!

Look at Obama:  EVERYTHING is Bush’s Fault, or the Republican’s fault, or it’s a “run of bad luck”.  It couldn’t POSSIBLY be that HIS policies are FAILURES!

 You can’t be too honest or else you end up like Jimmy Carter.

 0bama is proof that this is bullsh!t.

And 12voltclown would short circuit.

The majority of workers under the age of 45 don’t believe they will get to receive ANY Social Security benefits when they retire.  How about asking THEM if they think Social Security is a Ponzi scheme.

You’re right!

Just because the TOP 3% (of income earners) pay AS MUCH in Federal Income Tax as do the bottom 97%, is NO REASON to suggest that that 3% is paying “their fair share”!

I’m STILL waiting for SOMEONE to explain WHY 47% of Income Earners pay ZERO Federal Income Tax (and that’s not the “millionaires and billionaires”) - OR why some people get a REFUND in EXCESS of the Taxes they had withheld from their checks in the first place?

Those who are PULLING THE CART are the ones who DESERVE the rest breaks, NOT the ones IN THE CART, don’t you think?

Perry won’t get passed the primaries much less the nomination. A Texan helped get us into this mess and a Texan will get us out of it and it’s not Rick Perry, it’s the other R.P.

I, too, think it’s perfectly OKAY to have a union represent the workers – BUT NO WORKER should be FORCED to join that union, NOR should anyone be FORCED to PAY that union (if they don’t want to be a part of the union) and CERTAINLY the Employer should not be collecting the Union Dues on behalf of the Union (if the Union wants to collect dues from its members, let the members pay the union directly).

WHY does ANYONE “deserve” job security?
If you are not doing your job well, WHY should the employer be FORCED to keep you on as an employee?

WHY does ANYONE “deserve” a pension (being paid to NOT WORK)?
Are you saying that Union Workers are TOO STUPID to invest in their own retirement (like the VAST MAJORITY of working people do)?  Have you ever heard of a 401K?

Obama:  The CHANGE we WARNED YOU ABOUT!

The lunatic-left d-cRAT socialists are determined to DOUBLE-DOWN ON STUPID, and sergeant “I know nothing, NOTHING!” schultz is leading the way.

Once again, just like you did in all your other posts, you steal and plagiarize words of others, some of whom are even bigger idiots than you.

Side note: Perry introduced FL. Gov. Rick Scott to his boot maker in Texas and Scott ordered six pairs of boots with the Florida state emblem embroidered on the boots. It seems that Scott had the state emblem placed on the sole of the boots so he could always walk on the state and it’s people wherever he goes.

In Perry’s mind, they count more than people.  He figures, at least you can eat cows and pigs when they die.

The ones who made to most from Americia are the ones who should and can afford to pay more for the good of America.

Tree story, Perry has copies of the constitution copied onto his toilet paper.

Should read: True story, not tree story.  I don’t know what a tree story is unless you count Avatar.

Not the only one, she’ll be like fourth or fifth in the current cast of kooks the repubs are running.

;)

The “beneficiaries” are the ones squealing that republicans are trying to end SSI. They want voters to “shoot the messenger” just like they did on Fannie and Freddie, on immigration, on any government program that is going broke or failing. The beneficiaries are the ones who want to be judged solely on their intentions, NOT on the outcomes. Your American liberal party.

LOL

Are you saying Obama is honest?

Are you saying Obama is honest?

That would be “Faux News”.

That would be “Faux News”.

Rush parrot, any unique ideas. Im sorry , unique means original, give original a try and maybe you can eventually shed the rush parrot syndrome.

Everybody who doesn’t agree with you is a socialist or a communist . Does that make you Nazis?  It is all rhetoric.

Obama is honest?

More right wing parrots – tired

This from someone who thinks Sarah Palin should be president. LOL. Run Sarah Run!

And you are who again???? Exactly

Relax teabagger , take your hate to stormfront

You don’t love Ed?

Sshh!! Shut up! These dummies might just get smart!!

Have you ever heard of a 401K?………..Yah, Mine went into the crapper.

True story: An interviewer recently asked Perry why he favored abstinence only teaching of students despite it’s miserable failure rates.  Perry responded that he knew it worked.  When pressed how he know it works, Perry told the interviewer he had “first hand knowledge” of the effectiveness of “abstinence only.” Really, first hand knowledge Mr. Governor? 

EVEN if they were ONLY there (which I doubt), at least THEY are NOT a DRAIN on the Tax Revenue stream (as are EVERY SINGLE ONE of the 450,000 Government [leech] jobs Obama “Created or Saved”)!

You DO realize, don’t you, that GOVERNMENT JOBS are NOT SUSTAINABLE, right?

I mean, you DO realize that it takes the Tax Revenue paid by SEVERAL Private Sector (aka REAL) workers to pay the (inflated) salary of a Government “worker” (in quotes, because it’s highly suspect that they actually WORK)!

AND, here in California, we’re NOT sitting on a $500 BILLION Unfunded-Mandate (that’s moeny that’s OWED that we simply don’t have) – to pay the pensions of PRIVATE SECTOR workers – that’s all PUBLIC SECTOR (UNION) workers!

It is a tree story since toilet paper is made from trees

Surprise, surprise, a right wing whack attacking O’Donnell instead of addressing the issue of the article which is Perry caught foolishly wanting to destroy Social Security and then trying to flip flop and say he didn’t say what we heard him say.  Perry is a fool and a liar fighting a losing battle because his silly Ponzi scheme attack is in the debate and in a book he wrote just last year.  The Ponzi scheme statement is stuck to him like glue, he can’t defend it and he can’t get away from it no mater how hard he tries to flip flop.  Your feeble attempt to divert attention from the fool Perry onto O’Donnell failed as do 99.9999% of your posts.

I disagree.  Perry is a high grade functioning moron.  He got where he is by running away from debates because he’s smart enough to know he’s a moron.  This time around he’s toast because he will have to debate the other whack jobs at least three more times.  If he can out crazy the other crazies and survive that he’ll be in a battle of wits against President Obama.  In other words, bringing a pocket knife to a tank fight. 

(1)  The government takes money out of people’s paychecks for Social Security
(2)  Instead of investing this money to pay for people’s retirement, the government spends the money
(3)  This approach to investing for retirement is called a Ponzi scheme

I defy anyone to disprove any of these three statements.

So, in Lawrence O’Donnell’s opinion, telling the truth about a government program disqualifies a politician from being elected president?  Since he is a Leftist and Obama supporter, telling so many lies that you lose track of them obviously does not lose you his support.

Relax homo.  Go watch Glee.

What a surprise!!! A TeaBagger Cult member with it’s head up it’s ass!!!

You dopes will believe anything that you’re told by your dear leaders.

The good thing about you fossils is that people in this day and age are able to find out the truth.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/ponzi.htm

Look at that photo!
Man, that O’Donnell is one ugly dude!

Liberals resort to profanity and insults, because they have no arguments.

I repeat:

(1)  The government takes money out of people’s paychecks for Social Security
(2)  Instead of investing this money to pay for people’s retirement, the government spends the money
(3)  This approach to investing for retirement is called a Ponzi scheme

I defy anyone to disprove any of these three statements.

Social Security is and always has been either a “pay-as-you-go” system or one that was partially advance-funded. Its structure, logic, and mode of operation have nothing in common with Ponzi schemes or chain letters or pyramid schemes.

You’re always posting lies and misinformation so you deserve any and all profanity and insults.

You to will be a socialist some day!

I agree about Perry but unfortunately the other RP doesn’t stand a chance.

How old are you? 

Spoken like a true race baiter

And you dear sir are a JACKASS

and teen pregnancies

Maybe you should try arguing the point instead of making an unprovoked insult.

please keep that up then no bagpublican will get elected!

Your Pathetic!

Wrong person sorry1954 dan. not directed at you

Upset about something?

:)

Whatever you Say. Hey, here a Question for you. Did we land on the moon? Or was that a fake as well as Obama birth certificate. Just wondering.

Romney is always changing his position on every issue. he will say anything to get elected. Got an issue? he has different opinions. It all maters which way the wind blows or what day of the week it is.

Your a typical bore.Sorry sir. I try not to lower myself to your standards ,But sometimes I just can’t help myself man with no balls.

 Let’s say it’s a Ponzi scheme.  What course of action do we take then?  Do we abolish the system completely or do we evaluate the system to see what we could do to fix it?  Is it worth analyzing if it’s a top priority for most people in America?

Darren, I think the problem with referring to it as a Ponzi scheme means that you want to shut it down like how the government shut Maddof down.  People don’t want to see America give up on that program.  Although it may be impossible to fix, people want to give it a try.  Although it might even make sense to get rid of the program in economic terms it’s also suicide to say in politics.

Parry is an imbecile which makes him a big favorite of the tea bag bunch but in the end he loses basically because he is an asshole.

Ponzi scheme? No way.

You are suggesting that the government invest in a private sector investment portfolio, or just buy its own bonds? When the government spends money it is investing because that generates economic activity which will eventually generate tax revenue.

Good reply.  I agree with much of that.  The problem is that it seems to take strong language (“Ponzi scheme”) to get the conversation going.  Even assuming that the economy rebounds eventually, Social Security will be broke in 20-25 years.  Its already paying out more than it takes in. Younger workers would literally be better off taking the 6.5% (or currently 4.5%) that they pay and put it under their mattress.  They will never get back what they pay into it.

Any serious attempt at fixing Social Security will get demagogued by those trying to scare seniors into voting for them and young people will get screwed.

“End the Fed” is Ron Paul’s book, Perry’s is titled “Fed Up”.

You almost never write. But thank you for your support! -Volt

I REPEAT                                                                                                                                                                            Social Security would have be solvent for at least another 22 years if the Fed kept its hand out of the kitty according to the GAO.     

Here you go, my little RWNJ friends — here’s something even YOU can understand.   http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/08/social-security-not-ponzi-scheme-venn-diagram

You do not know what a ponzi scheme is. And who says the government must invest the money? Apparently you think that running a government is like running the finances of a family. It does not work that way.

As for insults, you are not the person to complain since that is your standard fare here.

I’m saying even a liar can end up looking like the peanut farmer. Are you saying he’s dishonest?

The fact that SS is a ‘Ponzi Scheme’ Could Lose Obama The Election

Your right, I remember all the balanced budgets that the republicans submitted it’s all the democrats fault. St. Regan, Bush 1 and 2 were math wizards. It’s the democrats with their pell grants, health care not letting the elderly starve what are they thinking?

I don’t think these guys know we pray for Perry to be the candidate.

You nailed it!

The more I hear about this guy, the more I’m liking Rick Perry.  The rightwingers have finally picked someone who will get people out on the street, especially seniors, and there are millions and millions of us,  who will be outraged when they understand that this character is serious. Away with Social Security, Medicaire and anything positive that the government is doing for its citizens. And what’s even more strange is that a few hundred thousand cynics,cranks and assorted miscreants will think this guy is our savior. Folks, Social Security and Medicaire are here to stay. These programs will be refined and made more efficient, but they’ll have to rip my Social Security and Medicaire cards out of my cold, hard, gripping hands and over my dead body if they’re thinking of eliminating these programs. My message to the few weak minded seniors and younger people who are susceptible to this crap – grow up and start thinking straight. You are being manipulated by a small number of crackpot billionaires who want to go back a hundred years to the time of the Robber Barons. If you’re under 40 years of age try to understand the history of this country. Social Security has worked just fine for 75 years and can easily be adjusted over the to work another 75 years. It won’t work if you keep supporting these rightwing idiots.

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You’re a dolt!

If Social Security isn’t managed like a Ponzi scheme, then why did President Obama warn in July that there might not be enough money to pay Social Security recipients if he didn’t get the debt ceiling raised?

That should tell you all you need to know about how broke the system is and how there is no such thing as a Social Security Trust fund.

It is simply another income tax. Nothing more.

Frankly speaking, Larry boy, nobody gives a rats ass what you think. However, if it’ll make you feel better I will; say here and now that because you are not going to vote for Perry, I will, thus cancelling out your worthless socialist commie vote. Oh yeah, since you don’t vote in a Republican Primary, I will cancel your sorry rear out by voting for whomever is the Republican nominee in the General Election just to spite you. Bwahahahahahahahaha! What an idiot you are, Lawrence! An angry old idiot.

MSNBC comments could have them lose their station.

As it happens the Nazi’s were socialist  too – “National Socialist Party”  :)

LOL.

Romney is dead.  Huntsman is a joke.

A machine gun is needed to shoot out all your stupid posts.   Keep it less than 1000 a day moron.

If  LOSERS like Lawrence O’Donnell, Al Sharpton, Karl Rove, the imbecilic, idiotic, moronic, ignoramus former McCain campaign adviser Steve Schmidt as well as that total wacko-doofus-dunderhead-goofball Bill Maher are trying to tell you what to do Gov./President Rick Perry, then you know you are doing it the right way. My grandparents and parents know exactly what you are saying Mr. Perry and all are damned glad someone has the backbone to stand up to the idiot losers like those mentioned above as well as all the other wackos on LSD/PMSnbc. They know full well that Social Security, Medicare and Medicade cannot keep operating as they do now and they coul;d care less what one names it…just fix it. The Dummycraps are running scared as hell. They know The oBUMbler is a One Term’r even if two former Republicans have become turncoat backstabbers aka Joe ‘Blowhard’ Scarborough and Steve ‘Sissified Girlieboy’ Schmidt.

There will be a change of renters of OUR White House in November 2012. It can’t come soon enough.

I think that Charlie Sheen has appeared more presidential to me than Rick Perry.  Let’s please be serious here and just support Romney.  He’s probably the best shot against Obama, and that’s really the single most important issue here. 

Perry will certainly lose Florida now.  Perry has no appeal in Michigan.  Why would Ohio vote for Perry?  Maybe Perry could win Missouri. 

Romney could challenge Obama in Florida, challenge Obama in Michigan, challenge Obama in even Massachusetts.  Romney could even challenge Obama in the Northeast as a whole. 

If you want to beat Obama, Romney is the clear choice.  If you want to give Obama the opening to say that he’s running against George W. Bush 2.0 and this time he’s coming after your social security, then don’t be upset if Obama renews his lease on the White House until 2016 or even longer. 

If it’s a “Ponzi scheme”, I invite you to fill out a complaint to the SEC. 

http://www.sec.gov/complaint/tipscomplaint.shtml#

 If it’s a “Ponzi scheme”, I invite you to fill out a complaint to the SEC. 

http://www.sec.gov/complaint/tipscomplaint.shtml#

 If it’s a “Ponzi scheme”, I invite you to fill out a complaint to the SEC. 

http://www.sec.gov/complaint/tipscomplaint.shtml#

If it’s a “Ponzi scheme”, I invite you to fill out a complaint to the SEC. 

http://www.sec.gov/complaint/tipscomplaint.shtml# 

Like Carter prayed for Reagan?

That’d do as much good as Juanita Broderick reporting a rape to the Arkansas attorney general in 1978.

2012 may be a first…the first time nobody gets elected as President. Romney has zero appeal south of Boston or west of Boston. He is not tough enough and we’re already witnessing a real wimp in the WH now. Everyone I know who voted for the oBUMbler in 2008 say NO Mas…! Personally I’m glad Perry is taking a strong stand. We’ll see hopw the two do in Monday night’s debate on the Clinton News Network.

Oh yeah, for the record, Charlie Sheen and Tiny Tim and Pee Wee Hermann all appeared more Presidential than Romney. Perry will mop up from South Carolina south and west. Perry will carry the Bible Belt and everythig west except for California, Oregon, and Washington State except for the Mormon state. But, whomever wins will beat oBUMMER…!

Well, we now have an Illinois senator that “drops his “g’s”..that is an incurious, instinctual lightweight.

Try taking your own advice.  Spamming threads on the internet, really, is that all you got going for you?

LOL   ;-)

As I said…….. It Is all rhedtoric!

They are all a joke!

If the lower taxing approach had actually worked, you would sound much more authoratative. But since it did not, even after the lowest taxes in 60 years, for, like 10 years now, pretend you know nothing.

Perry made a big mistake, tell the truth will not get you elected you have to go out with a plan like hope and change and change you can believe in apparently thats all you have to say to become idoit of the United States when there are moron’s that will vote for you on nothing but Bumper stick slogans that draw Libtards like a Maggot to rotten meat.

And so it was no surprise to O’Donnell that today, Perry walked back his comments, insisting that he just wants to “fix” the system. When asked if he thought of Social Security as a Ponzi scheme (remember, we have video of him actually saying it), Perry dismissed it as “misinformation.”

- Josh Feldman

Wow, between the clips of Perry’s bald faced denial of something that is clearly exposed on video, a Democratic party campaign ad that is interlaced with textual excerpts from his moronic book, “Fed Up! Our Fight to Save America from Washington”…

I see an entitlement system that has been totally and honestly revamped – where $106 trillion in unfunded liabilities are met with innovation, decentralization, and real solutions rather than false promises. There will be a retirement safety net that is no longer set up like an illegal Ponzi scheme, but rather will allow individuals to own and control their own retirement. There will be a healthcare safety net that is not built on the promise of what government can provide for the people, but on what individuals can accomplish together over our lifetime through work, savings, charity, and by spreading rish out through insurance policies.

… will make it impossible for Perry to win Florida.

Yo, Florida! Perry is talking specifically about eliminating Social Security and Medicare… as a “benefit” to the American people.

And what’s with that title, “Fed Up! Our Fight to Save America from Washington”? From Jay Leno’s recent interview of Bill Maher, Leno brings up the GOP’s science hating,  debate…

MAHER: Talk about a who’s who of who’s nuts. What a crew that is. I tell ya, I learned something from that debate. The republican party has no bottom.

LENO: No “bottom”?

MAHER: No bottom. I mean you think, you know, over the years, they’ve reached the bottom… like somebody like Dan Quale would a been the stupidest person, ever. And then a Mr. George Bush steps up to the plate. And then, you think that can’t get any worse, and then a Miss Sarah Palin emerges. And then a Michelle Bachmann… and now this Rick Perry… this is a man who will not be “out hillbillied” — for the job. Wow! Wow!

LENO: So, How do you think he did in the debate?

MAHER: Well, I was very disappointed that nobody asked him about his comments that he said earlier this year, or last year, that he was considering having Texas secede from the Union.

LENO: Oh yeah, that’s right, I remember hearing that, yeah.

MAHER: ‘Cause that stuff goes over well in Texas, you know? We’re actually going to secede, ’cause that’s what America needs now, a President of the United States who’s not really sold on the whole “United States” concept.

The proclivity of many to continue to deny that Social Security is managed like a Ponzi scheme isn’t going to change the fact that it is.

And we will all suffer because of it.

Since the people who make the laws made it legal to run the SS system like a Ponzi scheme, there isn’t a darn thing the SEC could do about it.

You don’t even know what you’re talking about. How low or high taxes are has nothing to do with the fact it’s managed like a Ponzi scheme.

Cute retort. But it’s meaningless. The lawmakers made it legal to run like a Ponzi scheme.

If you’re referring to the trust fund, that might be true. I doubt it would last that long, but whatever.

Every Ponzi scheme has an end point where the money runs out.

If a program is unsustainable in the long run, and the people running it lead people to believe it’s not a problem, then it is simply dishonest and corrupt of those to keep misleading people.

I guess my IRA and 401k are also a ponzi schemes too? BTW -Nobody would be using this term if Bernie Madoff had not come into the spotlight. “Ponzi scheme” is just  buzz words that gets some excited.

No one has said, me included, that Social Security doesn’t need to be tweaked. Let’s see, what could America do to fix Social Security, instead of dumping the problem on the disappearing middle class? What if we removed the “cap”, so that even the wealthy, who can easily afford to pay into it, pay into it?

Yep, that would fix it all right. And, oh look, 67% percent of Americans think that that… is a gangbuster of an idea.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/141611/Americans-Look-Wealthy-Help-Save-Social-Security.aspx

Way too early in the game to say that.

Read the definition of a Ponzi scheme.  Social Security PRECISELY fits the definition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

Exactly like what we have in the White House, wouldn’t you say?

Only to biased Republians. i don’t hear as much jokes about Obama then I hear jokes about the Repulican candidates. Maybe you should start a right wing late nigt show with a right wing comedian. Wait , you did. The Dennis Miller show. It lasted what? 2 months?

The high-school issue would be do to the high number of Black and Latino drop out rate. Latinos account for the biggest group of uninsured. Texas and California accounting for the biggest populations of illegal alien parasite who do not insure themselves. They would rather, suck for free, at the American health care system.

…because of growth in the private sector.

Oh, now you say it is “managed” as a ponzi scheme. When did it become a ponzi scheme? Was it a ponzi scheme when it was created? Who made it a ponzi scheme?  

Or did it just recently become a ponzi scheme to serve as a tea party talking point to despise the federal government?

So, if Letterman, and Leno didn’t say it, it’s not a joke?

Carter may have prayed for Reagan, but not in that way. Carter wasn’t wasn’t a fake “tea” christain, he was a real christain. More the way Coons prayed for O”Donnell or the way Wisconsin prayed for recall “teas”.

If your talking about Texas, he’d be correct. His answer was probably tongue in cheek. But then, with you, it’s only funny if a Liberal comedian is saying it. It’s hard to believe that someone like you, who is politically immature, thinks Perry doesn’t understand the question.  

Gee, I hadn’t thought of it that way.  The poor should give more of the money they don’t have from the glut of jobs the “job creators” aka.  “the rich” have provided for them.

We all need an interpreter when we have to listen to the BS coming out of Obimbos mouth.

Their counting illegal alien parasites, why not farm animals!

Isn’t it?!

I’m shocked, stunned, and amazed!! How, and who do you think got involved when they said they wouldn’t?

No, he’s a Liberal, he means the guy down at the tire store.

Does Obimbo know we have a Constitution, and it applies to him?

With a picture of Obimbo in the middle. Isn’t this fun?!

Did they part in all 57 states?

Now here’s a statement that just might be true.

The proper spelling for crapper is = O B A M A 

Tax breaks for people (Rich) who actually provide jobs, and pay most of the taxes? As opposed to the uneducated, unskilled bottom-feeders who’s only role in Obimbo’s plan is that of “useful voting idiots”. Looks like your insight is as sophomoric as your lame jokes.

Don’t you mean, should be “robbed” of the most to feed the Obamacons who are keeping the Demo-Rats in power? Have you ever thought for yourself, or do you just rely the “Head Bottom Feeder” to tell you what to say?

Gee, maybe your onto something. That would be “self-responsibility”. Just when did it become the Rich’s responsibility to provide you with anything? Here’s a little thought, IT’S NOT!!

Wow, a coherent thought!! But, you forgot to tell your Liberal fallowing just who is responsible for that. Why didn’t you add that part of the equation?

The social security program is paid for by the employee, and the employer. Both giving equally amounts over the working career of the employee. In general, the amount given by both, will never be used up by the employee upon retirement. Which of course, begs the question, where does the unused money go? When the political-beggars speak of social security, they never speak of the total amount given, they only speak of the employees contribution. Based on those numbers only, they can safely say soc.sec. is in trouble.   

Ask me the question again in English? I’m very sorry, dear sir, I don’t speak or understand the preliterate  language of Tea Bag.

When your birth-certificate states that you were born in a hospital that did not exist for another 17-years, I’d say…FAKE, FAKE, FAKE!!

I am not very very rich man. I would also say I am very far from being poor. I have what I want and need.I am comfortable. I don’t bitch about paying in my share of taxes.They pay for our public schools and highways.(Not as much as they should). It’s what living in a sociaty is about Charlie Brown………………….Hillary Clinton was right. “It takes a village..”

“Their counting illegal alien parasites, why not farm animals!…………..I’ll just let you words of hate speak for themself.It shows your true colors.

     ….honest men are few when it comes to themselves.- quoted in My Mark
Twain, William Dean Howells

Your funny.  ;)

At a Latino convention? LOL

ARCHIE BUNKER is that you?

Dear sir, I really do try hard not to insult anyone except when they attack me first. With that said.

When your birth-certificate states that you were born in a hospital that did not exist for another 17-years, I’d say…FAKE, FAKE, FAKE

Since the government wants a monopoly on Ponzi schemes, there is nothing citizens can do — except vote out the politicians who concocted this monstrosity. But that doesn’t change the fact that any investment manager who ran a pension plan with the same approach as Social Security would be sent to prison. And the charge would be…yes, operating a Ponzi scheme.

I see, and who is playing the role of mastermind of this scam, Woody Allen?

In any event, you silly republicans, calling social security a ponzi scheme is precisely what we democrats want to hear out of you right up to the next election.

Glad you and your tea party friends are sold on Perry’s ponzi scheme/unconstitutional tag, though Mitt disagrees. For us democrats we could not be happier.

Perry is a lot smarter then many liberals think.

http://www.bostonreview.net/BR21.6/krugmann.html

December/January 1996-97 issue of Boston Review.

Paul R. Krugman

……I like Freeman’s idea of providing each individual with a trust
fund when young rather than retirement benefits when old, but we had better
realize that this is a significant change in the character of the social insurance
system. Social Security is structured from the point of view of the recipients
as if it were an ordinary retirement plan: what you get out depends on what
you put in. So it does not look like a redistributionist scheme. In practice
it has turned out to be strongly redistributionist, but only because of its
Ponzi game aspect, in which each generation takes more out than it put in.
Well, the Ponzi game will soon be over, thanks to changing demographics, so
that the typical recipient henceforth will get only about as much as he or
she put in (and today’s young may well get less than they put in).

 I suggest you check out the latest CNN poll, the first taken after Governor Perry’s Social Security comment in last week’s debate:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/09/11/rel15a.pdf
Governor Perry is considered by Republican voters the strongest leader at 46%
Governor Perry is considered the most likable at 25%
Governor Perry is considered the most likely to beat President Obama at 42%
Governor Perry is considered the most likely to agree with those polled at 26%
Governor Perry is considered the most likely to get the economy moving at 35%
Most notably, Governor Perry’s strongest support is among those 65+ at 46%, which means that, not only are seniors not turned off by his Social Security remarks, they are a plus with them.  And senior are the age group most likely to vote.

As for the “mastermind”, take your pick, any Democrat from FDR on down.

BTW, I am a registered Democrat, but, being from Louisiana, and old, I just can’t stand the idea of being in the party that gave us – Louisiana – Lincoln, the War of Northern Aggression, “Beast” Butler, Reconstruction, and integration.  I also hope for the chance to vote against the Community-Organizer-in-Chief in a primary.