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Megyn Kelly And Anthony Weiner Engage In Shouting Match Over Clarence Thomas

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Today Megyn Kelly welcomed Democratic Congressman Anthony Weiner back to her show, and fans of their last heated exchange who were hoping for some more fireworks between the two were not at all disappointed. Weiner adamantly believed that Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas should recuse himself from hearing a case on the constitutionality of healthcare reform due to the financial interests of his wife that give off the appearance of bias. When Kelly began to dispute whether that was legally necessary Weiner began to get agitated.

Weiner frequently appears on Fox News and his detractors might claim he just as frequently ends up yelling to make his point or looking frustrated when not given enough time. Here he questions whether Kelly knows the definition of an “interview” while also discussing the differences between facts and opinion and disputing Fox’s “coverage” of any issue. Kelly humorously asks when is it her turn to speak? By the end of the conversation who even knows what issue they are discussing anymore and who cares, because every Kelly/Weiner confrontation is a memorably exciting event. These two need to take their act on the road!

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  • TfT

    One way weiner – he always interrupts and never applies the same standard to libs that he applies to conservatives. He is turning into a bore.

  • kvon

    Judicial activism in action!

  • Liberal Tormentor

    You’re not only a weiner, but a HACK! His vendetta with Beck went nowhere so he had to start a new one to keep himself in the spotlight.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Hey Kvon, found that evidence to back up your claim that the Tea Party is violent? Just admit you’re a liar and I’ll let it go.

  • Not Your Typical New Yorker

    I just saw this live, there was no shouting match just weiner doing what he always does.

    ACTING LIKE A SNOT that needs a good slapping.

    BTW: This little snot has Never had a real job, graduating college and instantly slithering into then congressman Chuckie Schumers office and sucking on the government teat forevermore….

  • writer

    Please limit your Vans and Os to twenty-five per post.

  • Big Eddie

    Rep . Squiggy is one weird liberal . This dink trying to have art removed from a NYC park .

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/rep_weiner_urges_removal_of_sexist_gCZVolczdZRQNlHcJCxBlM

  • BlueBunny

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Just admit you’re a liar and I’ll let it go.

    GET A LIFE ALREADY! THERE ARE VIOLENT PEOPLE EVERYWHERE!

  • joe7

    They had him on to talk about his current initiative against Clarence Thomas. Not to promote his rhetoric. He says something that can be considered false, or not factual and has a fit when corrected or questioned on it. It wasn’t supposed to be an infomercial. He can easily get one on other outlets. I know journalism isn’t very journalistic these days, but journalists are supposed to question politicians and question what might not be fact. He rather waste time having a fit because his claimed truths were disputed and try to get sound bites that the left can use in spite of his absurd performance.

  • BlueBunny

    AT LEAST NO ONE CAN SAY WEINER HAS NO BALLS!

  • BadGenome

    What’s Wiener’s problem with a black Supreme Court Justice? Deal with it, racist!

    In all seriousness, this whole effort to get Thomas to recuse himself seems like a fairly blatant attempt to distract from Kagan, who really should recuse herself from any hearings on Obamacare.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    BlueBunny says:
    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Just admit you’re a liar and I’ll let it go.

    GET A LIFE ALREADY! THERE ARE VIOLENT PEOPLE EVERYWHERE!

    Yeah Iris, and ir would appear that 99% of them are on the left. Don’t smear a group of people unless you can back it up. I know you libs are used to the days when you could just throw out the smear and it was automatically fact, but them days are over, sweetie.

  • Calvin

    Brings to mind a scene from Ghostbusters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDQk4lGSEJQ

  • illusive man

    BlueBunny said:
    GET A LIFE ALREADY! THERE ARE VIOLENT PEOPLE EVERYWHERE!

    But the grand majority of violence comes from the left, I don’t think you are blind or def so you must know this is true.

  • AIO_7

    Clarance and Ginny love liberty…LMAO.
    One mans love of liberty is another mans conflict of interest.

    Anthony rocks!
    Megan and Fox suck.

  • possibly

    Fox news lies, on ever interview, all the time.

  • THE REAL ROYAL KING

    I actually agree with Weiner on this one. That’s hard to admit. But the judicial standard for conflict of interest involves the APPEARANCE of impropriety. Kelly knows that, but she is such a rightist apologist she is willing to sacrifice her credibility. And, Clarence Thomas is most assuredly not worth that.

  • Annie Oakley

    Hey, Weiner just married Hillary Clinton’s longtime aide, so he’s doubling up on kool points. He’s no match for Megyn Kelly intellectually, so he has to talk faster and louder. A rude, crude little man.

    I find it interesting how the Left is playing “Whack a Mole” over Justices Thomas and Scalia. As usual, they are engaging in PROJECTION. Kagan, as Solicitor General, SHOULD recuse herself from any lawsuits over Obamacare, and every lawyer who passed the ethics part of the Bar Association admission tests should know that. Kagan should recuse herself, but she won’t, so the Left is going after Thomas and Scalia.

    Amazing how stupid the Left thinks the public is. Instead, they always show their own ignorance. Do keep track of Weiner and HIS wife- I’m sure some real conflicts of interest will rear their ugly heads during their marriage. Can’t wait.

  • THE REAL ROYAL KING

    Annie Oakley said:
    Hey, Weiner just married Hillary Clinton’s longtime aide, so he’s doubling up on kool points. He’s no match for Megyn Kelly intellectually, so he has to talk faster and louder. A rude, crude little man.

    I find it interesting how the Left is playing “Whack a Mole” over Justices Thomas and Scalia. As usual, they are engaging in PROJECTION. Kagan, as Solicitor General, SHOULD recuse herself from any lawsuits over Obamacare, and every lawyer who passed the ethics part of the Bar Association admission tests should know that. Kagan should recuse herself, but she won’t, so the Left is going after Thomas and Scalia.

    Amazing how stupid the Left thinks the public is. Instead, they always show their own ignorance. Do keep track of Weiner and HIS wife- I’m sure some real conflicts of interest will rear their ugly heads during their marriage. Can’t wait.

    I agree that Justice Kagan should recuse herself in any HCR cases. Nothing is served by her lowering herself to Thomas standards.

  • StandUp

    BlueBunny said:
    AT LEAST NO ONE CAN SAY WEINER HAS NO BALLS!

    Weiner has no balls…so you’re wrong again.

  • OxyCon

    You know that little creep no one liked in high school who becomes a cop and gets his revenge by writing everyone traffic tickets? That’s Weener in a nut shell. You just know his school nick name was “Spaz”, but now he’s a big bad Congressman and he’s going to get his revenge on the world for ever doubting his greatness!

  • ChrisNH

    I love seeing Weiner in an agitated state (which is pretty much always). His ass is getting kicked before a huge TV audience and the small Lib child doesn’t quite like it. He’ll probably go home tonight and kick the family dog.

  • http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

    Both Kagan and Thomas should recuse themselves. The law is very clear on this point.

    Scalia has no problem with regard to the conflict of interest law. Justices opine in speeches all the time.

    Kagan was involved in the legislation and defending it before joining the court and Thomas’ household earned a lot of money (more than his salary) from his wife’s lobbying against it. It is pretty clear that both have at least the appearance of a conflict.

    That said, it looks like they cancel each other out.

  • WyCoSkyLark

    Weiner really is a nasty piece of work; quite likely the most infantile, obnoxious member of Congress. He needs to have his mouth washed out with Fels Naptha and be sent to his room for an extended “time-out”.

  • StandUp

    BadGenome said:
    What’s Wiener’s problem with a black Supreme Court Justice? Deal with it, racist!

    That’s just a third of it. He’s also a Conservative AND married to a white woman. The Trifecta.
    Thomas has wandered off the plantation that liberals built and they can’t stand it. Weiner is pathetic and racist. Pathetically racist.

  • kvon

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Hey Kvon, found that evidence to back up your claim that the Tea Party is violent? Just admit you’re a liar and I’ll let it go.

    http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/gunshot.jpg

    http://gawker.com/#!5501717/tea-party-vigilantes-out-for-liberal-blood

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbnEy_U9pYk

    ..there ya go.

  • kvon

    New GOP line to tow: MORE JUDICIAL ACTIVISM!

  • avoidswork

    Annie Oakley said:
    Hey, Weiner just married Hillary Clinton’s longtime aide, so he’s doubling up on kool points. He’s no match for Megyn Kelly intellectually, so he has to talk faster and louder. A rude, crude little man. I find it interesting how the Left is playing “Whack a Mole” over Justices Thomas and Scalia. As usual, they are engaging in PROJECTION. Kagan, as Solicitor General, SHOULD recuse herself from any lawsuits over Obamacare, and every lawyer who passed the ethics part of the Bar Association admission tests should know that. Kagan should recuse herself, but she won’t, so the Left is going after Thomas and Scalia. Amazing how stupid the Left thinks the public is. Instead, they always show their own ignorance. Do keep track of Weiner and HIS wife- I’m sure some real conflicts of interest will rear their ugly heads during their marriage. Can’t wait.

    Well Ms. Weiner is not the spouse of a Supreme Court Justice who failed to disclose decades of income from his wife. Then sits on the bench countless times supporting the economic interests of his wife’s profession.

    The “left” doesn’t think the public is stupid, we *know* the general public is stoopid.

    Query: Have any Obamacare law suits reached the ears of the Supreme Court?

  • kvon

    Wait, is the GOP for Judicial activism or against it right now?

  • http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

    avoidswork said:
    Query: Have any Obamacare law suits reached the ears of the Supreme Court?

    Not yet, but since there are opposing lower court decisions on it (2 for and 2 against), this will reach the Supreme Court and probably fairly quickly.

  • kvon

    How do you confuse a Mediaite Conservative?

    Don’t list who is a Republican and who is a Democrat…

  • DEFENDER-90

    There has been an Islamic terrorist attackon on Americans in Frankford and the new story of the day is about Magyn Kelly’s interview with DICK named Weiner.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Funny that people want to judge Obama for his “associations” but not Thomas. Isn’t that more signs of right-wing hypocrisy? Seems to me that 99% of the hypocrisy in the world seems to be on the right.

  • avoidswork

    Keeva said:
    Not yet, but since there are opposing lower court decisions on it (2 for and 2 against), this will reach the Supreme Court and probably fairly quickly.

    Correct on both counts.

    But Thomas has already sat on the bench and decided on cases. All the while failing to disclose years of income from his spouse on his forms.

    But who cares about pesky details like that, right?

  • http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

    kvon said:
    Wait, is the GOP for Judicial activism or against it right now?

    Depends on the judge and the decision rendered.

  • kvon

    DEFENDER-90 said:
    There has been an Islamic terrorist attackon on Americans in Frankford and the new story of the day is about Magyn Kelly’s interview with DICK named Weiner.

    Fucking genius over here. Amerikans killed in Frankford Earport

  • billyweeds

    “He’s no match for Megyn Kelly intellectually….”

    This is so hilarious it scarcely requires comment, but next to Weiner, Megyn Kelly is a beauty pageant winner. He’s a refreshingly outspoken dude who’s not afraid to call a woman on her b.s.

  • avoidswork

    DEFENDER-90 said:
    There has been an Islamic terrorist attackon on Americans in Frankford and the new story of the day is about Magyn Kelly’s interview with DICK named Weiner.

    Only foxnews seems to be adding “Islamist” slant at this time.

    the UK’s Guardian and Independent as well as a German source has not.

    http://www.thelocal.de/national/20110302-33473.html
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/02/gunman-kills-airmen-frankfurt-airport
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/two-killed-in-shooting-at-frankfurt-airport-2230307.html#

  • AninTx

    Sometimes I pop an Oscar Meyer into the microwave for my kid at lunch. The longer it cooks and the pressure builds it begins to sputter and hiss and sometimes makes a high pitched whinning noise just before it contorts and cracks open.

    Oh geez! Where did that thought come from? Nevermind.

  • Dave Richards

    BlueBunny said:
    AT LEAST NO ONE CAN SAY WEINER HAS NO BALLS!

    Are we sure?

  • http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

    avoidswork said:
    But Thomas has already sat on the bench and decided on cases. All the while failing to disclose years of income from his spouse on his forms.

    Which is a totally separate issue. The failure to disclose is a problem, but this is not about that. This is about the eventual health care decision the court will be making.

    Raking up all past transgressions is a pointless exercise. We have seen this done to at least the last 3 presidents. All it does is throw a lot of dirt in the air.

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Funny that people want to judge Obama for his “associations” but not Thomas. Isn’t that more signs of right-wing hypocrisy? Seems to me that 99% of the hypocrisy in the world seems to be on the right.

    Hypocrisy works both ways and is evenly spread. Note Charlie Rangel still being in Congress and wildly defended by one Anthony Wiener. Note his sad defense of Kagan not recusing on health care.

    And you are correct about the right and their constant Obama associates stuff. It is insanely hypocritical, but politicians are hypocrites by nature. I believe Ms. Kelly has gone after those Obama “associates” in the past.

  • jerrybobphil

    Anthony Wiener is a complete ass whenever interviewed and challenged on any of ideas. His interview style is junk and makes himself look awful all the time.

  • Dave Richards

    billyweeds said:
    “He’s no match for Megyn Kelly intellectually….” This is so hilarious it scarcely requires comment, but next to Weiner, Megyn Kelly is a beauty pageant winner. He’s a refreshingly outspoken dude who’s not afraid to call a woman on her b.s.

    Refreshingly outspoken? He yells and screams a lot without saying much, if that is what you mean.

  • Dave Richards

    Tom Daschle’s wfie was a lobbyist. No conflict there.

  • Annie Oakley

    AninTx said:
    Sometimes I pop an Oscar Meyer into the microwave for my kid at lunch. The longer it cooks and the pressure builds it begins to sputter and hiss and sometimes makes a high pitched whinning noise just before it contorts and cracks open.

    Oh geez! Where did that thought come from? Nevermind.

    GREAT visual!

    Megyn Kelly was a good litigator with a white shoe New York law firm before going into television and has a far better command of the both the law and how to debate an issue than Weiner ever could. He is just loud and rude, not intellectually rigorous. Heck, I know a kid of twenty-seven who trades swaps in NY who could debate Weiner and make him look the fool that he is.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Keeva said:
    Which is a totally separate issue. The failure to disclose is a problem, but this is not about that. This is about the eventual health care decision the court will be making.

    Raking up all past transgressions is a pointless exercise. We have seen this done to at least the last 3 presidents. All it does is throw a lot of dirt in the air.

    Hypocrisy works both ways and is evenly spread. Note Charlie Rangel still being in Congress and wildly defended by one Anthony Wiener. Note his sad defense of Kagan not recusing on health care.

    And you are correct about the right and their constant Obama associates stuff. It is insanely hypocritical, but politicians are hypocrites by nature. I believe Ms. Kelly has gone after those Obama “associates” in the past.

    I was mocking Liberal Tormentor, she thinks that the left is less moral then the right despite having no proof of that.

  • kvon

    Dave Richards said:
    Tom Daschle’s wfie was a lobbyist. No conflict there.

    Not a judge. Try again.

  • kvon

    Dave Richards said:
    Refreshingly outspoken? He yells and screams a lot without saying much, if that is what you mean.

    Apparently Megyn didn’t understand that ‘spouse’ means wife, so there is a conflict of interest. So, he at least communicated that.

  • http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

    jerrybobphil said:
    Anthony Wiener is a complete ass whenever interviewed and challenged on any of ideas. His interview style is junk and makes himself look awful all the time.

    Yes it is, but so is Chris Christie who just yells at people that disagree with him. Both sides are filled up with buffoons that just start yelling the minute they are not automatically agreed with.

  • Annie Oakley

    Also, Matt, this was no “shouting match.” I watched it and Weiner was the only one shouting, as is his wont.

    Re. Obamacare going to the Supremes, Holder and Obama want to slow it down and NOT ask for an expedited hearing- they’re hoping Kennedy or a conservative justice will retire or drop dead before Obamacare is heard. They’re hoping to appoint Cass Sunstein or what’shisname Liu.

  • Dave Richards

    kvon said:
    Not a judge. Try again.

    That’s laughable.

  • DEFENDER-90

    avoidswork—you should not get your news from the Guardian.

    Mail online–Lone Kosovan 21 shot dead soldier and driver.

    Kosovan authorities identify the suspect as Arif Uka.

    Some media reports said he shouted Islamic slogans.

  • Dave Richards

    Keeva said:
    Yes it is, but so is Chris Christie who just yells at people that disagree with him. Both sides are filled up with buffoons that just start yelling the minute they are not automatically agreed with.

    Some people need to be yelled at. Especailly ignorant liberals.

  • valkyrie101

    Yea, on the road, the megyn wiener show. LOL.

  • http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    I was mocking Liberal Tormentor, she thinks that the left is less moral then the right despite having no proof of that.

    Ah, I see.

    I try not to respond to comments from anyone with the word “tormentor” in their screen name. Somehow it would seem pointless. Seriously, how can a rational conversation happen with someone that introduces themselves as Liberal Tormentor. Lovely sentiment, that.

  • kvon

    Dave Richards said:
    That’s laughable.

    But correct. Try again.

  • kvon

    Dave Richards said:
    Some people need to be yelled at. Especailly ignorant liberals.

    Megyn still didn’t understand what a spouse was…seems like she might be the ignorant one.

  • kvon

    DEFENDER-90 said:
    Lone Kosovan 21 shot dead soldier and driver.

    From DailyMail: ‘Too early to say if it is terrorist attack,’ say police

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1362247/Two-killed-Frankfurt-airport-shots-fired-near-bus-carrying-soldiers.html#ixzz1FTjlUYMi

  • kvon

    Annie Oakley said:
    Also, Matt, this was no “shouting match.” I watched it and Weiner was the only one shouting, as is his wont.

    Re. Obamacare going to the Supremes, Holder and Obama want to slow it down and NOT ask for an expedited hearing- they’re hoping Kennedy or a conservative justice will retire or drop dead before Obamacare is heard. They’re hoping to appoint Cass Sunstein or what’shisname Liu.

    But does Thomas need to recuse himself or not?

  • valkyrie101

    Megyn is, of course, correct that Thomas has no obligation to recuse himself because the “appearance of impropriety” alone is never enough to require that under the Code of Professional Responsibility that governs lawyers and judges. But if Thomas does not want scrutiny, such as what Weiner offers, then he should avoid the appearance of impropriety.

  • DEFENDER-90

    kvon–Whatever happend MEDIAITE should get on it.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Keeva said:
    Ah, I see.

    I try not to respond to comments from anyone with the word “tormentor” in their screen name. Somehow it would seem pointless. Seriously, how can a rational conversation happen with someone that introduces themselves as Liberal Tormentor. Lovely sentiment, that.

    She didn’t use to be so bad and I sometimes enjoyed conversation, but eventually she just became another of the wingnuts. She’s been banned more than once if I’m correct.
    Exactly. How can you criticize the other side as vile and hateful when you present yourself as such?

  • kvon

    DEFENDER-90 said:
    kvon–Whatever happend MEDIAITE should get on it.

    Can we stay on topic here…a Supreme Court Judge’s wife is being paid to influence her husband, and you don’t have a problem with it?

  • Annie Oakley

    kvon said:
    But does Thomas need to recuse himself or not?

    No!

  • Liberal Tormentor

    UNreasonable lib says:

    I was mocking Liberal Tormentor, she thinks that the left is less moral then the right despite having no proof of that.

    You’re delusional! The proof is everywhere, you just choose to ignore it.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    UNreasonable lib says:

    I was mocking Liberal Tormentor, she thinks that the left is less moral then the right despite having no proof of that.

    You’re delusional! The proof is everywhere, you just choose to ignore it.

    And there’s proof of right wing hypocrisy all over the place. Doesn’t mean one side is worse than the other. that’s all in your pea-sized brain, idiot. Would you like proof that you’re stupid as well? Please don’t forget that you also said you have “proof” that the health care bill funds abortions.

  • DEFENDER-90

    kvon—I agree.

  • Libertarian-Observer

    Admit it … It’s just fun watching Megyn Kelly!

  • BadGenome

    Dave Richards said:
    Refreshingly outspoken? He yells and screams a lot without saying much, if that is what you mean.

    Refreshing, because he spits all over whoever he’s yelling at. It’s like a midday shower!

  • WHarropson

    That nervous giggle at the end is reality creeping up on Weiner that a woman just walked all over him and he made himself look like a little girl.

  • BadGenome

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    And there’s proof of right wing hypocrisy all over the place. Doesn’t mean one side is worse than the other. that’s all in your pea-sized brain, idiot. Would you like proof that you’re stupid as well? Please don’t forget that you also said you have “proof” that the health care bill funds abortions.

    Very reasonable of you.

  • BarneyFranken

    BadGenome said:
    Very reasonable of you.

    DOUBLE thumbs up on this one.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    BadGenome said:
    Very reasonable of you.

    Not so smart of you.

  • http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

    Libertarian-Observer said:
    Admit it … It’s just fun watching Megyn Kelly!

    Yes, it is.

    kvon said:
    But does Thomas need to recuse himself or not?

    Need to? No, he does not. Should he? Well, that is up to Justice Thomas. As a member of the court, it is fair to assume that he is aware of this and will decide based on his read of the law.

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    How can you criticize the other side as vile and hateful when you present yourself as such?

    It has always been thus. Both sides engage in the insult and anger festival to accuse each other. Note the free flowing use of the word “racist” by both sides. I see she just called you delusional for not agreeing with her.

  • BadGenome

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Not so smart of you.

    You keep saying that, so I assume I’m missing something. Is it that you’re not claiming to be reasonable, you’re just reasonable for a lib?

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Keeva said:

    It has always been thus. Both sides engage in the insult and anger festival to accuse each other. Note the free flowing use of the word “racist” by both sides. I see she just called you delusional for not agreeing with her.

    I know that. i’ve said that. No side is better than the other, and there are those on both sides who thrive on the idiocy. As long as they can confirm your worst fears they don’t care about facts. prime example; she insists that the health care bill funds abortions and provides a source that says that it does. However, in the document it clearly says that federal funds contributed to plans are not to be used for abortions, I then provided a link from politifact that affirms this. Her response was that she could find sources to disprove every source I provide. That doesn’t mean anything if it’s wrong. i can provide a source that says the moon is made of cheese, doesn’t make it right.

  • BarneyFranken

    kvon said:
    From DailyMail: ‘Too early to say if it is terrorist attack,’ say police Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1362247/Two-killed-Frankfurt-airport-shots-fired-near-bus-carrying-soldiers.html#ixzz1FTjlUYMi

    Seriously? Too early? Translation: I will defend a murderous act for as long as I can if I am sympathetic to their political ideology.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gunman-shouting-allah-akbar-kills-us-airmen-germany/story?id=13037467

    Shame on you Kvon. This is truly disgusting, even for you.

  • glenn113

    If Clarence Thomas had any integrity he would recluse himself. Why would this be so important to him that he wouldn’t?

  • WHarropson

    Libs, maybe we could ask the moderator to have a “Fox News Lies” button installed so we can get right to the depth of your argument more efficiently.

  • avoidswork

    BarneyFranken said:
    Seriously? Too early? Translation: I will defend a murderous act for as long as I can if I am sympathetic to their political ideology. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gunman-shouting-allah-akbar-kills-us-airmen-germany/story?id=13037467 Shame on you Kvon. This is truly disgusting, even for you.

    Frak you and stop admonishing Kvon.

    More sites DON’T say islamic than do.

    It may turn out to be an Islamic terrorism event perpetrated by a Kosovoan. I’m not defending him – no one is – but pointing out that AT THE PRESENT TIME it is slightly premature.

  • BarneyFranken

    avoidswork said:
    Frak you and stop admonishing Kvon. More sites DON’T say islamic than do. It may turn out to be an Islamic terrorism event perpetrated by a Kosovoan. I’m not defending him – no one is – but pointing out that AT THE PRESENT TIME it is slightly premature.

    A guy shoots up a bus, and we have to wait to say whether or not that was an act of terror?

    I have family stationed in Germany, you a**hole.

    The guy is a murderer and a terrorist. I dont give a ‘frak’ if it doesnt fit your definition of terrorism or not.

    While you are caught up in nuance and symantics, people are dead.

    What I said to Kvon goes double to you pal.

  • felixw

    Sure, Clarence Thomas is financially impacted by Obamacare. But all of us are financially impacted by Obamacare. My health insurance premiums jumped 15% after the Democrats forced through this bill — with phony promises that it would reduce health care costs. Everyone would need to recuse themselves under Mr. Weiner’s amorphous standards.

    But let’s get real for a second. Anthony Weiner’s real objection to Clarence Thomas is that the judge has committed the unforgivable sin of being African-American and conservative. The Left attacks all conservatives, but they especially despise black, female or Hispanic conservatives, since they feel that they should “own” those groups. I don’t blame folks like Weiner for trying, but the folks who are “owned” ought to wonder about the integrity of a political party that lashes out so viciously at people just for daring to think for themselves.

  • ndanielson

    avoidswork said:
    Frak you and stop admonishing Kvon.

    More sites DON’T say islamic than do.

    It may turn out to be an Islamic terrorism event perpetrated by a Kosovoan. I’m not defending him – no one is – but pointing out that AT THE PRESENT TIME it is slightly premature.

    Isn’t it hard work being a liberal clown?

  • kvon

    BarneyFranken said:
    Seriously? Too early? Translation: I will defend a murderous act for as long as I can if I am sympathetic to their political ideology.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gunman-shouting-allah-akbar-kills-us-airmen-germany/story?id=13037467

    Shame on you Kvon. This is truly disgusting, even for you.

    Defend? I posted what the DailyMail said: “Too early to say if it is terrorist attack.”

    You, on the other hand, said I am sympathetic to terrorists…which is about right for Conservatives. They call everyone terrorists…seems like you might have Guilliani disease.

  • kvon

    ndanielson said:
    Isn’t it hard work being a liberal clown?

    Yeah! Pass judgment before the facts are in! That’s what Jesus did!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    BarneyFranken said:
    A guy shoots up a bus, and we have to wait to say whether or not that was an act of terror?

    The guy is a murderer and a terrorist.
    By your reasoning, (I use the term loosely), Loughner’s attack in Tuscon was an act of terror. The people who sold him 31 shot clips are guilty of aiding terrorists. They should be on their way to Gitmo.

  • same2u

    Clarence Thomas loves his porn and the fact his lobbyist wife is using her access to him to make money for their retirement.

  • TeaPartyPatriot

    Kelly vs. the lunatic-left weiner: It’s like a teeny, tiny, extremist mosquito (the weiner) trying to annoy the substantial, powerful giant (kelly). Kelly did what anybody would in that situation, she swatted down the pest, but good!

  • kvon

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    Kelly vs. the lunatic-left weiner: It’s like a teeny, tiny, extremist mosquito (the weiner) trying to annoy the substantial, powerful giant (kelly). Kelly did what anybody would in that situation, she swatted down the pest, but good!

    Yeah, especially the part where Megyn didn’t know what the word ‘spouse’ meant…hahaha, she’s so damned smart!

  • crclarkNY

    I don’t know why anyone on any network interviews this guy. I’ve seen him multiple times and all he does is talk over everyone. He’s like a bad used car salesman….shifty and double talking…

  • kvon

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    Kelly vs. the lunatic-left weiner: It’s like a teeny, tiny, extremist mosquito (the weiner) trying to annoy the substantial, powerful giant (kelly). Kelly did what anybody would in that situation, she swatted down the pest, but good!

    The word ‘spouse’ sounds French, so why would she even know what that word means!

  • ndanielson

    Poor liberal dummies are in a major quandary, again. They are trying to get the jump on the recusal card, as Elena Kagen spent many visits with 0bama talking over how to get the 0bamacare sham through the SCOTUS. All of this PRIOR to her appointment to the court. What a fraud their entire administration is. Do you think her opinion of 0bamafraud had anything to do with her appointment??? I wonder how the empathetic Latina will come down on it?

    Kagen: Under her regime at Harvard Law, Constitutional Law was relegated to the status of an afterthought, and no longer included in the very first year of students’ courses. In 2006, with the backing of the faculty, Dean Kagan announced a curriculum that put heaviest emphasis on such legal doctrines as “assumptions and methods of contemporary U.S. law and the perspectives provided by other [foreign] disciplines,” so as to develop ideas leading to “effective just laws and institutions,” and courses “introducing global legal systems…Public International Law…International Economic Law…and Comparative Law.”

    What these have in common is elevating international law to pre-eminence in our judicial system, with Constitutional Law listed as merely one of several disciplines to which (in the second and third years) the studies will naturally “lead to…”

    In other words, no longer would Constitutional Law be offered as a stand-alone course. Rather, it was effectively designated as just one of many paths considered in an international framework. Never mind that “constitutional law” is the very foundation upon which our system of laws is based. It is not incidental — that is, not unless the point of the exercise is to make “international law” the predominant consideration in our courts.

    http://www.renewamerica.com/analysis/vernon/100524 On Kagen.

  • kvon

    ndanielson said:
    Poor liberal dummies are in a major quandary, again. They are trying to get the jump on the recusal card, as Elena Kagen spent many visits with 0bama talking over how to get the 0bamacare sham through the SCOTUS. All of this PRIOR to her appointment to the court. What a fraud their entire administration is. Do you think her opinion of 0bamafraud had anything to do with her appointment??? I wonder how the empathetic Latina will come down on it?

    Kagen: Under her regime at Harvard Law, Constitutional Law was relegated to the status of an afterthought, and no longer included in the very first year of students’ courses. In 2006, with the backing of the faculty, Dean Kagan announced a curriculum that put heaviest emphasis on such legal doctrines as “assumptions and methods of contemporary U.S. law and the perspectives provided by other [foreign] disciplines,” so as to develop ideas leading to “effective just laws and institutions,” and courses “introducing global legal systems…Public International Law…International Economic Law…and Comparative Law.”

    What these have in common is elevating international law to pre-eminence in our judicial system, with Constitutional Law listed as merely one of several disciplines to which (in the second and third years) the studies will naturally “lead to…”

    In other words, no longer would Constitutional Law be offered as a stand-alone course. Rather, it was effectively designated as just one of many paths considered in an international framework. Never mind that “constitutional law” is the very foundation upon which our system of laws is based. It is not incidental — that is, not unless the point of the exercise is to make “international law” the predominant consideration in our courts.

    http://www.renewamerica.com/analysis/vernon/100524 On Kagen.

    Change that subject! It might work.

  • Yoda002

    felixw said:
    Sure, Clarence Thomas is financially impacted by Obamacare. But all of us are financially impacted by Obamacare. My health insurance premiums jumped 15% after the Democrats forced through this bill — with phony promises that it would reduce health care costs. Everyone would need to recuse themselves under Mr. Weiner’s amorphous standards.

    But let’s get real for a second. Anthony Weiner’s real objection to Clarence Thomas is that the judge has committed the unforgivable sin of being African-American and conservative. The Left attacks all conservatives, but they especially despise black, female or Hispanic conservatives, since they feel that they should “own” those groups. I don’t blame folks like Weiner for trying, but the folks who are “owned” ought to wonder about the integrity of a political party that lashes out so viciously at people just for daring to think for themselves.

    I don’t think anything that was passed was called Obamacare!

  • ndanielson

    Megyn Kelly mops the floor with a weiner.

    kvon said:
    Change that subject! It might work.

    Isn’t this about recusal, dummy? And didn’t they bring up Kagen??? Are you that dumb? Kelly wipes the floor with a weiner once again.

  • avoidswork

    kvon said:
    Defend? I posted what the DailyMail said: “Too early to say if it is terrorist attack.” You, on the other hand, said I am sympathetic to terrorists…which is about right for Conservatives. They call everyone terrorists…seems like you might have Guilliani disease.

    I concur on all fronts — when I first looked into this (trying to view more Euro-centric sources vs. US) the only site that inferred Islamic was foxnews.com. I now know that a couple more state it, but even the German press I read wasn’t immediately stating “islamic terrorist event”.

    What it turns out to be — we will see.

    Funny how when Giffords was shot and people were (erroneously) giving a political spin to Loughner, the Right was screeching. But when it comes to Islam, they don’t even hesitate to pull the trigger prematurely.

    ((I wonder if the US interfering in certain parts of the Islamic world, killing their citizens (9 kids dead today in Afghanistan. Go Team USA/NATO!!) and torturing them and holding them indefinitiely might piss off some people? Make them anti-American and stuff.))

  • kvon

    felixw said:
    Sure, Clarence Thomas is financially impacted by Obamacare. But all of us are financially impacted by Obamacare. My health insurance premiums jumped 15% after the Democrats forced through this bill — with phony promises that it would reduce health care costs. Everyone would need to recuse themselves under Mr. Weiner’s amorphous standards.

    But let’s get real for a second. Anthony Weiner’s real objection to Clarence Thomas is that the judge has committed the unforgivable sin of being African-American and conservative. The Left attacks all conservatives, but they especially despise black, female or Hispanic conservatives, since they feel that they should “own” those groups. I don’t blame folks like Weiner for trying, but the folks who are “owned” ought to wonder about the integrity of a political party that lashes out so viciously at people just for daring to think for themselves.

    This is by far the most retarded thing I’ve read on Mediaite so far…bravo sir, bravo.

  • ndanielson

    Yoda002 said:
    I don’t think anything that was passed was called Obamacare!

    0bamacare is a term of endearment, dummy.

  • Yoda002

    As a lawyer she should know better than to throw something out there to call prejudice as in misleading facts. A judge hear that in court he would be upset with counsel and if he or she keeps on doing it he would hold counsel in contempt.

  • kvon

    ndanielson said:
    Megyn Kelly mops the floor with a weiner.

    Isn’t this about recusal, dummy? And didn’t they bring up Kagen??? Are you that dumb? Kelly wipes the floor with a weiner once again.

    This is about Clarence Thomas, and while the did bring up Kagan, you launch into a complete non-sequitor about her. The law clearly states that if your spouse is receiving money for platform politics then you need to recuse yourself. Megyn Kelly doesn’t even know what the word spouse means for god sake…and you think she won?

  • ndanielson

    kvon said:
    This is about Clarence Thomas, and while the did bring up Kagan, you launch into a complete non-sequitor about her. The law clearly states that if your spouse is receiving money for platform politics then you need to recuse yourself. Megyn Kelly doesn’t even know what the word spouse means for god sake…and you think she won?

    But the real bummer, cupcake??? Recusal is voluntary. Bummer huh? Hey, boo-hoo, huh?

  • ndanielson

    ndanielson said:
    kvon said:
    This is about Clarence Thomas, and while the did bring up Kagan, you launch into a complete non-sequitor about her. The law clearly states that if your spouse is receiving money for platform politics then you need to recuse yourself. Megyn Kelly doesn’t even know what the word spouse means for god sake…and you think she won?

    You really think Kelly doesn’t know the definition of spouse??? Lies built upon lies. No wonder you can delude yourself endlessly. You’re an idiot…a liberal partisan hack idiot.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    kvon says:
    ndanielson said:
    Isn’t it hard work being a liberal clown?

    Yeah! Pass judgment before the facts are in! That’s what Jesus did!

    See the thing is, you libs only wait and wait and wait for the facts if a Muslim is involved. If it’s someone you can tie to the tea party then you start blaming them, facts be darned! We will use Tucson as just one of MANY examples. You continued to beat the drum even after the facts came out that proved you wrong. You do NOT care about the facts and you know it.

  • Grammie

    avoidswork said:
    Funny how when Giffords was shot and people were (erroneously) giving a political spin to Loughner, the Right was screeching. But when it comes to Islam, they don’t even hesitate to pull the trigger prematurely.

    .
    My personal rule of thumb is if the mass murderer shouts Islamic War Crys while in the act of murdering innocents I assume terrorist until there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

    On the other hand, if the mass murderer has given us absolutely nothing from his own mouth or any evidence at the scene then I wait for further evidence to become available.

    I don’t recall having ever decided wrongly so far.

  • felixw

    Yoda002 said:
    I don’t think anything that was passed was called Obamacare!

    Have you read all 2,000 pages? When you can tell us what’s in the bill, then we will let you call it what you want. In the interim, the guy who forced this monstrosity on us gets his name on it.

    Of course, there is the separate question of why the Democrats — who LOVED this bill when it went up for a vote — not decide that they embarrassed to have the President’s name attached to it. Maybe they should think through the reasons for their uneasiness. If the bill was a great success, they should be proud to have it called Obamacare. And if the bloody thing is a huge failure, then they should stop worrying about the name, and more about the mess they have created.

  • ndanielson

    Just like the “you lie comment” and what precipitated it, politicizing the Scotus is so heinous an act by this charlatan of a president. A community agitator to the bone! You clowns got your a$$es handed to you in November 2010. Just wait ’till 2012. 680 legislative seats is a record in the modern era of politics. Thank you Barack Hussein 0bama. You charlatan hack! http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/11/devastation-gop.php

  • Annie Oakley

    Grammie said:
    .
    My personal rule of thumb is if the mass murderer shouts Islamic War Crys while in the act of murdering innocents I assume terrorist until there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

    On the other hand, if the mass murderer has given us absolutely nothing from his own mouth or any evidence at the scene then I wait for further evidence to become available.

    I don’t recall having ever decided wrongly so far.

    Grammie, maybe he’s just a plain old Islamist, yelling Allu Akbar as he shot our soldiers- rather like Major Hassan. God forbid, the Left or the Obama administration call things what they are. When I read Orwell’s “1984,” I never thought I’d see it come to fruition in OUR country.

  • Nacho

    Conflict of interest is pretty cut and dry.

    This is one of those instances where I would have expected Kelly and O’Rielly to side with common sense. I’m not sure if Billo has said where he stands.

  • bohratom

    Kelly is awesome, one of the best straight shooters on cable news. I wish she would run for office one day. I love when you can see the steam coming out of Weiners ears…

  • Nacho

    bohratom said:
    Kelly is awesome, one of the best straight shooters on cable news. I wish she would run for office one day. I love when you can see the steam coming out of Weiners ears…

    She sure is pretty.

  • ndanielson

    Nacho said:
    Conflict of interest is pretty cut and dry.

    This is one of those instances where I would have expected Kelly and O’Rielly to side with common sense. I’m not sure if Billo has said where he stands.

    You will have some credibility when you look into Kagen and her need to recuse herself. And shouldn’t an empathetic Latina recuse herself from EVERYTHING? Where is empathy in any rule of law???

  • kvon

    ndanielson said:
    But the real bummer, cupcake??? Recusal is voluntary. Bummer huh? Hey, boo-hoo, huh?

    Yeah, and he’s too dishonest to do it. Conservatives are a bunch of sycophants so they don’t care.

  • kvon

    ndanielson said:
    You really think Kelly doesn’t know the definition of spouse??? Lies built upon lies. No wonder you can delude yourself endlessly. You’re an idiot…a liberal partisan hack idiot.

    Megyn doesn’t seem to understand it, since the law is pretty clear. So the only explanation, other than willful deception is complete stupidity. She’s either a liar or an idiot. I picked idiot because it’s nicer.

  • avoidswork

    Annie Oakley said:
    Grammie, maybe he’s just a plain old Islamist, yelling Allu Akbar as he shot our soldiers- rather like Major Hassan. God forbid, the Left or the Obama administration call things what they are. When I read Orwell’s “1984,” I never thought I’d see it come to fruition in OUR country.

    The point was when this was first brought up, “islamist” was not part of the reporting (sans Fox, but I expect that). The initial sourcing did not infer Islamist.

    That’s simply what some of us were bringing up.

    Granted, falling on deaf ears because us libs are pro-terrorism and anti-american and pro-arugula and stuff…

    Of course, we/NATO just killed 9 kids in Afghanistan so yay America!

  • avoidswork

    kvon said:
    Megyn doesn’t seem to understand it, since the law is pretty clear. So the only explanation, other than willful deception is complete stupidity. She’s either a liar or an idiot. I picked idiot because it’s nicer.

    You forgot the third option:

    Fox News employee
    (so a combination of willful deception and stupidity)

  • kvon

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    kvon says:
    ndanielson said:
    Isn’t it hard work being a liberal clown?

    Yeah! Pass judgment before the facts are in! That’s what Jesus did!

    See the thing is, you libs only wait and wait and wait for the facts if a Muslim is involved. If it’s someone you can tie to the tea party then you start blaming them, facts be darned! We will use Tucson as just one of MANY examples. You continued to beat the drum even after the facts came out that proved you wrong. You do NOT care about the facts and you know it.

    Did I blame Tuscon on a Tea Partier? No. But I watched as you harpies pre-judged (the basis of prejudice) the facts.

  • ndanielson

    kvon said:
    Yeah, and he’s too dishonest to do it. Conservatives are a bunch of sycophants so they don’t care.

    Here for you, address this with any critical thinking and you will gain some believability. My guess? You have none.

    ndanielson said:
    You will have some credibility when you look into Kagen and her need to recuse herself. And shouldn’t an empathetic Latina recuse herself from EVERYTHING? Where is empathy in any rule of law???

  • ndanielson

    avoidswork said:
    You forgot the third option:

    Fox News employee
    (so a combination of willful deception and stupidity)

    Kvon’s cheerleader. Rah, Rah sis boom dumb.

  • kvon

    ndanielson said:
    Here for you, address this with any critical thinking and you will gain some believability. My guess? You have none.

    Thomas has not indicated that he will recuse himself. The GOP is praising him for it. What’s your point?

  • valkyrie101

    felixw said:
    Sure, Clarence Thomas is financially impacted by Obamacare. But all of us are financially impacted by Obamacare. My health insurance premiums jumped 15% after the Democrats forced through this bill — with phony promises that it would reduce health care costs. Everyone would need to recuse themselves under Mr. Weiner’s amorphous standards. But let’s get real for a second. Anthony Weiner’s real objection to Clarence Thomas is that the judge has committed the unforgivable sin of being African-American and conservative. The Left attacks all conservatives, but they especially despise black, female or Hispanic conservatives, since they feel that they should “own” those groups. I don’t blame folks like Weiner for trying, but the folks who are “owned” ought to wonder about the integrity of a political party that lashes out so viciously at people just for daring to think for themselves.

    It is true that the current health care reform efforts fell woefully short, but be honest, that was because the republicans sought to undermine ANY reform. As it is now, even with the current law, 40 million people remain uninsured, and 20 or 30 thousand people a year die, in this country, for lack of health care. The republican solution involves forcing hospitals to pay for indigent care. In Sarasota, Florida, three hospitals just sued the county for 100 million dollars in reimbursement for that care. The republican solution, therefore, which is to do nothing, will bankrupt the state and local governments.

  • Grammie

    avoidswork said:
    The point was when this was first brought up, “islamist” was not part of the reporting (sans Fox, but I expect that). The initial sourcing did not infer Islamist.

    .
    What I heard said on Fox, not in the very first bare bones reports, was that German authorities were reporting a possible Islamist terror motive and then a little later the “Allah Ackubar (?). Even further along he was identified as from Kosovo. I haven’t been listening to the news since then but I don’t think I’ll have to do a mea culpa for being wrong.

  • kvon

    Grammie said:
    .
    What I heard said on Fox, not in the very first bare bones reports, was that German authorities were reporting a possible Islamist terror motive and then a little later the “Allah Ackubar (?). Even further along he was identified as from Kosovo. I haven’t been listening to the news since then but I don’t think I’ll have to do a mea culpa for being wrong.

    So you passed judgment before the facts were in?

  • ndanielson

    kvon said:
    Thomas has not indicated that he will recuse himself. The GOP is praising him for it. What’s your point?

    My point: Should Kagen recuse herself? Should the “empathetic Latina (her words)” Sotomayor recuse herself? Where is “empathy” anywhere in the rule of law, and equal justice for all? Are we a nation of laws or men?

  • avoidswork

    kvon said:
    So you passed judgment before the facts were in?

    Technically, FNC may have passed judgement before facts were in and the Grammie-types of America simply parroted the information.

    Come on, kvon, we *know* this is how it works with the FNC audience.

  • Tedderman

    The facts of this case are clear , Thomas must recuse himself. Unless his wife can get Anita Hill to apologize while Clarence gives oral to the Koch brothers at a Bon Jovi concert. No, just kidding, he really must recuse himself.

  • Dem4Ever

    Weiner acts like a spoiled little princess.

  • ndanielson

    kvon said:
    This is about Clarence Thomas, and while the did bring up Kagan, you launch into a complete non-sequitor about her. The law clearly states that if your spouse is receiving money for platform politics then you need to recuse yourself. Megyn Kelly doesn’t even know what the word spouse means for god sake…and you think she won?

    Recusal is up to Thomas. Bummer, huh? Just like politicizing the SCOTUS, is up to the loser-in-chief, and his sheep. But, guess what, sweetpea? All of our legislators swear to uphold the constitution. Guess what else, sweetpea? Your liberal fleebagger legislators always defer to the courts, that which they are cowards to defend, because they are ch!ckensh!t. Enamour yourself with the 17 Amendment. There is the beginning of your liberal cowardice.

  • Grammie

    kvon said:
    So you passed judgment before the facts were in?

    .
    So, my basing my judgment on three pieces of info and one of those pieces matches my rule of thumb is passing judgment before the facts.

    I would expect no better from you, the man who is so quick to pass judgments on everyone else as being racist without any actual evidence at all other than disagreement with you.

  • Yoda002

    felixw said:
    Have you read all 2,000 pages? When you can tell us what’s in the bill, then we will let you call it what you want. In the interim, the guy who forced this monstrosity on us gets his name on it.

    Of course, there is the separate question of why the Democrats — who LOVED this bill when it went up for a vote — not decide that they embarrassed to have the President’s name attached to it. Maybe they should think through the reasons for their uneasiness. If the bill was a great success, they should be proud to have it called Obamacare. And if the bloody thing is a huge failure, then they should stop worrying about the name, and more about the mess they have created.

    Instead of the Republicans talking about real issues they have to use a Frank Luntz one word sound bite.

  • kvon

    ndanielson said:
    Recusal is up to Thomas. Bummer, huh? Just like politicizing the SCOTUS, is up to the loser-in-chief, and his sheep. But, guess what, sweetpea? All of our legislators swear to uphold the constitution. Guess what else, sweetpea? Your liberal fleebagger legislators always defer to the courts, that which they are cowards to defend, because they are ch!ckensh!t. Enamour yourself with the 17 Amendment. There is the beginning of your liberal cowardice.

    I’m a coward but you’ve admitted that corporations have bought a member of the Supreme Court? You’re not outraged?

  • kvon

    Grammie said:
    .
    So, my basing my judgment on three pieces of info and one of those pieces matches my rule of thumb is passing judgment before the facts.

    I would expect no better from you, the man who is so quick to pass judgments on everyone else as being racist without any actual evidence at all other than disagreement with you.

    YOU PASSED JUDGMENT THOUGH.

  • im_lovin_it

    kvon said:
    I’m a coward but you’ve admitted that corporations have bought a member of the Supreme Court? You’re not outraged?

    And a state governor. Can’t forget dear ol’ Scott Walker.

  • Grammie

    kvon said:
    YOU PASSED JUDGMENT THOUGH.

    .
    Or, I decided based on the evidence so far that this was an Islamist terrorist attack.

    We all pass judgment thousands of times a day in many ways and often not consciously.

    So??????????????

    Let’s see whether my assessment, made after the report that the attacker shouted Allah Akubar, coupled with the target of the attack and other info, is accurate or not.

    What’s your big GOTCHA in your mind? That I process info thru my brain, experiences and known patterns to arrive at a reasonable conclusion b/c you disagree and I learned the facts on FOX?

  • notsofast

    Weiner is again showing his racism against the only African-American on the bench.

    When will you libs end your blatant racism?

    MG!

  • Annie Oakley

    Grammie said:
    .
    Or, I decided based on the evidence so far that this was an Islamist terrorist attack.

    We all pass judgment thousands of times a day in many ways and often not consciously.

    So??????????????

    Let’s see whether my assessment, made after the report that the attacker shouted Allah Akubar, coupled with the target of the attack and other info, is accurate or not.

    What’s your big GOTCHA in your mind? That I process info thru my brain, experiences and known patterns to arrive at a reasonable conclusion b/c you disagree and I learned the facts on FOX?

    Grammie, of course, if Fox reports it, kvon can’t possibly believe it. Of course, if ABC reports it……..but then, this doesn’t mean he’s Muslim, hmmmm? And Major Hassan wasn’t REALLY a Muslim extremist.
    “A gunman shouting “Allahu Akbar” opened fire on a bus carrying U.S. airmen in Frankfurt, Germany, killing two and wounding two others before his gun jammed and he was subdued, officials said.”

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    kvon says:
    ndanielson said:
    Isn’t it hard work being a liberal clown?

    Yeah! Pass judgment before the facts are in! That’s what Jesus did!

    See the thing is, you libs only wait and wait and wait for the facts if a Muslim is involved. If it’s someone you can tie to the tea party then you start blaming them, facts be darned! We will use Tucson as just one of MANY examples. You continued to beat the drum even after the facts came out that proved you wrong. You do NOT care about the facts and you know it.

    This coming from the person who says the health care bill funds abortion and that liberals want minorities dependent on the government.

  • stephenpyle

    Fox and Anthony Weiner should do a reality show. For someone who hates Fox so much, he sure loves getting shouting matches. And for someone who represents everything Fox doesn’t, they love to have Weiner on. He does make for good TV.

  • ndanielson

    kvon said:
    I’m a coward but you’ve admitted that corporations have bought a member of the Supreme Court? You’re not outraged?

    kvon said:
    ndanielson said:
    Recusal is up to Thomas. Bummer, huh? Just like politicizing the SCOTUS, is up to the loser-in-chief, and his sheep. But, guess what, sweetpea? All of our legislators swear to uphold the constitution. Guess what else, sweetpea? Your liberal fleebagger legislators always defer to the courts, that which they are cowards to defend, because they are ch!ckensh!t. Enamour yourself with the 17 Amendment. There is the beginning of your liberal cowardice.

    Really. You see that in there, somewhere???

  • glenn113

    If any judge had an inkling that his presiding over a case would cause any type of controversy at all you would think it would be in the best interest of everyone involved they he recluse himself. Thomas not reclusing himself obviously raises everyone’s eyebrows as it should.

  • http://twitter.com/clindhartsen clindhartsen

    Weiner, while he does have some issues in the way he represents himself on FOX, does get his point across much of the time, so good on him for doing it again here.

  • jim bronson 990cc

    ndanielson said:
    Recusal is up to Thomas. Bummer, huh? Just like politicizing the SCOTUS, is up to the loser-in-chief, and his sheep. But, guess what, sweetpea? All of our legislators swear to uphold the constitution. Guess what else, sweetpea? Your liberal fleebagger legislators always defer to the courts, that which they are cowards to defend, because they are ch!ckensh!t. Enamour yourself with the 17 Amendment. There is the beginning of your liberal cowardice.

    Ever read Bush v. Gore? More nonsense for a guy who doesn’t understand discovery.

  • jim bronson 990cc

    notsofast said:
    Weiner is again showing his racism against the only African-American on the bench. When will you libs end your blatant racism? MG!

    Recusal does not equal racism. That makes you not so smart.

  • Annie Oakley

    The professional Left is just “Borking” Thomas- and Scalia as well. Standard left-wing tactic since they know that Obamacare can’t pass constitutional muster unless the court is stacked.

  • kvon

    ndanielson said:
    Really. You see that in there, somewhere???

    Where is the outrage?

  • kvon

    Annie Oakley said:
    The professional Left is just “Borking” Thomas- and Scalia as well. Standard left-wing tactic since they know that Obamacare can’t pass constitutional muster unless the court is stacked.

    So this really doesn’t bother you at all?

  • ndanielson

    jim bronson 990cc said:
    Ever read Bush v. Gore? More nonsense for a guy who doesn’t understand discovery.

    Is that a book, dum-dum? Gore lost every re-count in FL. Bummer, huh? Everyone. Then whined like a baby an drug SCOTUS in. What’s discovery this week, sweetpea?

  • avoidswork

    Annie Oakley said:
    Grammie, of course, if Fox reports it, kvon can’t possibly believe it. Of course, if ABC reports it……..but then, this doesn’t mean he’s Muslim, hmmmm? And Major Hassan wasn’t REALLY a Muslim extremist.“A gunman shouting “Allahu Akbar” opened fire on a bus carrying U.S. airmen in Frankfurt, Germany, killing two and wounding two others before his gun jammed and he was subdued, officials said.”

    Oh holy baby jeebus. Can you two take your CPU processors to be tinkered with? The point (*whoosh over head*) was that FNC was reporting it much quicker than even the German outlets were.

    I’m glad that you’re so proud of yourselves as FNC watchers. So when did you learn that we killed Afghani children Tuesday on FNC? They were gathering firewood. Killed in an airstrike. But, I’m sure you saw that on Fox today…

  • kvon

    Annie Oakley said:
    Grammie, of course, if Fox reports it, kvon can’t possibly believe it. Of course, if ABC reports it……..but then, this doesn’t mean he’s Muslim, hmmmm? And Major Hassan wasn’t REALLY a Muslim extremist.
    “A gunman shouting “Allahu Akbar” opened fire on a bus carrying U.S. airmen in Frankfurt, Germany, killing two and wounding two others before his gun jammed and he was subdued, officials said.”

    You just want to grab your pitchfork a little too soon my friend.

    They call that reactionary. It’s a bad thing.

  • ndanielson

    avoidswork said:
    Oh holy baby jeebus. Can you two take your CPU processors to be tinkered with? The point (*whoosh over head*) was that FNC was reporting it much quicker than even the German outlets were.

    I’m glad that you’re so proud of yourselves as FNC watchers. So when did you learn that we killed Afghani children Tuesday on FNC? They were gathering firewood. Killed in an airstrike. But, I’m sure you saw that on Fox today…

    Who’ s the bada$$ struttin’ homeboy calling in air strikes today??? Did Bush call those in for Mr. decisive?

  • Grammie

    avoidswork said:
    Oh holy baby jeebus. Can you two take your CPU processors to be tinkered with? The point (*whoosh over head*) was that FNC was reporting it much quicker than even the German outlets were.

    I’m glad that you’re so proud of yourselves as FNC watchers. So when did you learn that we killed Afghani children Tuesday on FNC? They were gathering firewood. Killed in an airstrike. But, I’m sure you saw that on Fox today…

    .
    Were their reports wrong?

    If not, what does it signify that Fox was first on the air, assuming that you are correct and no other outlet reported it simultaneously or before Fox?

    As for the rest of your silly little tantrum I don’t think Descartes said “I think exactly what you think therefore I am”.

  • kvon

    Grammie said:
    .
    Were their reports wrong?

    If not, what does it signify that Fox was first on the air, assuming that you are correct and no other outlet reported it simultaneously or before Fox?

    As for the rest of your silly little tantrum I don’t think Descartes said “I think exactly what you think therefore I am”.

    Just because you happened to be right, that doesn’t make your actions right. What if the Tuscon shooter went to a Tea Party?

  • Grammie

    kvon said:
    Just because you happened to be right, that doesn’t make your actions right. What if the Tuscon shooter went to a Tea Party?

    .
    Well, DUHHHHHHHH, if new and/or different info comes out about EITHER story I will process it using the same reasoning ability and will change my mind consistent with the new info.

    Why, are you so close minded and hide bound by your seeming conviction that your opinions are absolute objective truth that you never change your mind?

  • ganymede

    The question is, how did an idiot like Thomas get to the Supreme Court in the first place? I do remember that it was a former Republican Senator from Missouri, John Danforth, whose family made their gazillions from Quaker Oats who promoted Thomas by saying that he was the best qualified black jurist in the country! Hardly a suitable replacement for Thurgood Marshall. In reality, As far as the Court goes, Thomas has been the biggest insult to black and white Americans in the last half century. He is at best a doofuss and is totally unqualified for any Court. He has set a record and puzzled anyone interested in what the Supreme Court does by hardly ever uttering a word while on the Bench. He is an absolutely low-grade person, even more reactionary than Scalia who at least has a big brain. And then there’s Anita Hill who as time goes by has been proven very perceptive in warning us about this unethical guy. Of course, the rightwingers love this fool.

  • http://libertyinprogressnow.wordpress.com/ ProgLib

    For her own sanity, this b*tch needs to stop letting Anthony Weiner on her show, because she gets smacked around by his weiner every time. How many times does he have to PWN her for her to learn her lesson? It’s obvious she doesn’t know how the hell to conduct an interview, yet she tries to do it all the time. And she’s supposed to be Fox’s straight news anchors, too. Who does she think she’s kidding?

  • guesswhat

    Weiner is an ass. Everytime I see him he has to yell or interrupt to make sure his point is the only point heard. Problem is, he is an ass. He will argue around a point in question without answering the point. His tactic is typically to twist and turn the facts to fit his arguement. Personally, I hate to see him on a show except as another reminder of why I cannot vote Democrat.

  • http://www.twitter.com/nuktubian Nuktubian

    ganymede said:
    The question is, how did an idiot like Thomas get to the Supreme Court in the first place?

    Racist.

  • jim bronson 990cc

    ndanielson said:
    Is that a book, dum-dum? Gore lost every re-count in FL. Bummer, huh? Everyone. Then whined like a baby an drug SCOTUS in. What’s discovery this week, sweetpea?

    All of which has nothing to do with the decision. Nice evasion.

  • Sidhekitten

    ProgLib said:
    For her own sanity, this b*tch needs to stop letting Anthony Weiner on her show, because she gets smacked around by his weiner every time.

    Amazing how you managed that viewpoint. “Lil Tony” is like the attack Pomeranian of the left, he just keeps yapping no matter how many times you tell him to stop. This seems to be the lefts current strategy, just keep talking no matter if the question demanded a short answer or if the constraints of the clock are a factor. In fact, if time is a factor, all the better, keep barking your talking points in order to run out the clock.

    The attack Pom Pom’s strategy is so transparent, as part of the single payer crowd, he is attempting reverse pack the court. He knows if he can’t peel off one of the five that will probably doom Obamacare, so someone beyond Lil Tony’s pay grade has decided to send him out to bark it up a bit. Sooner or later we may see a more reasonable voice try to make a calmer appeal. However, if the tactic does not work, then the “civil and sane” left will beat their purple bag and let loose the SEIU or some other group to threaten violence and attempt to invade the Supreme Court or go to Thomas’s house and his wife’s office.

    The coming insurrection baby, learn it and love it.

  • Pablo

    ganymede said:
    He is an absolutely low-grade person, even more reactionary than Scalia who at least has a big brain.

    Coming from a scumbag like you, I’m sure that pains him to no end.

  • Pablo

    glenn113 said:
    Thomas not reclusing himself obviously raises everyone’s eyebrows as it should.

    Raclist!

  • chicgoods7
  • Sidhekitten

    Pablo said:
    glenn113 said:
    Thomas not reclusing himself obviously raises everyone’s eyebrows as it should.

    Raclist!

    Has anyone ever noticed how presumptuous people can get. When words like “everyone”, “nobody” or phrases like “all Americans” or “all right thinking people” (my favorite) pop out of peoples mouths or keyboards I am reminded of my English Prof’s words about it being sloppy thinking. He also would fail the paper for use of those words as well, after all if one person does not fit that argument, the argument is void.

    No it is not obvious, what is obvious is that this is a political tactic, see my previous post, and if Thomas is forced to recuse himself, then the former solicitor general is in the same boat. Kagan was active and involved as the President’s S.G. Of course, now I have to waste some time to check Lil Tony’s claim about Kagan, I trust him about as much as I would trust a shoplifter in a clothing store.

  • Sidhekitten

    Sorry Pablo, your term “racist” should be attributed to you, not to glenn113.

  • ChrisNH

    Using Leftist logic, the only reason Weiner doesn’t like Thomas is because Thomas is black. Weiner is clearly a ‘racist’ and has yet to successfully prove he isn’t.

    It is nice when hypocritical Leftists get hoisted by their own petard.

  • Paul G

    Is it just me? but I don’t even know when there’s was another person….u rock Megyn. brb..I’m gonna google …pregmilfs…

  • RichS

    THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
    I actually agree with Weiner on this one. That’s hard to admit. But the judicial standard for conflict of interest involves the APPEARANCE of impropriety. Kelly knows that, but she is such a rightist apologist she is willing to sacrifice her credibility. And, Clarence Thomas is most assuredly not worth that.

    Once again the pretend lawyer, the real racist king, is wrong. Do try to listen to the real lawyers, like Mygan Kelly, and then go back to studying law (in your case, watching “A Few Good Men”)

  • RichS

    kvon said:
    But does Thomas need to recuse himself or not?

    No, and if you listened to what Mygan said, she pointed out why. Of course, two things seemed to keep you from listening. The first was Congressman Weiner’s lack of civility and the second is your obvious liberal bias. You keep repeating that Mygan does know what a spouse is, you forgot to listen when she said her opinion was based not only on her legal background, and her time reporting on the Supreme Court but also on the opinion of lawyers specializing in the Court. I know its hard to hear anyone else when Anthony Weiner is being interviewed or is on a panel, but do try to listen.

  • Pablo

    Sidhekitten said:
    Has anyone ever noticed how presumptuous people can get. When words like “everyone”, “nobody” or phrases like “all Americans” or “all right thinking people” (my favorite) pop out of peoples mouths or keyboards I am reminded of my English Prof’s words about it being sloppy thinking. He also would fail the paper for use of those words as well, after all if one person does not fit that argument, the argument is void.

    Yup.

    No it is not obvious, what is obvious is that this is a political tactic, see my previous post, and if Thomas is forced to recuse himself, then the former solicitor general is in the same boat.

    Bear in mind that neither can be forced to recuse. There is no mechanism for it.

  • Penguin60

    ganymede said:
    Hardly a suitable replacement for Thurgood Marshall. In reality, As far as the Court goes, Thomas has been the biggest insult to black and white Americans in the last half century. He is at best a doofuss and is totally unqualified for any Court. He has set a record and puzzled anyone interested in what the Supreme Court does by hardly ever uttering a word while on the Bench. He is an absolutely low-grade person, even more reactionary than Scalia who at least has a big brain. And then there’s Anita Hill who as time goes by has been proven very perceptive in warning us about this unethical guy. Of course, the rightwingers love this fool.

    All conjecture and personnel opinion. No facts. Normally I don’t like to use this term but this has to be one of the most bigotted posts here. How do you live with yourself?

  • CAconservative

    ProgLib:

    Is that what you saw in this video? What I saw was a joke trying to talk over the commentator because he didn’t want his opinion challenged.

  • RichS

    Pablo said:
    Raclist!

    Pablo, do you have any idea why glenn113 wants Justice Thomas to make himself shy? Its one thing to want him to withdraw from considering the case but why should he change his personality?

  • tegeagent007

    Damn, everytime I channel surf, this broad on Fox is shouting at somebody or threatening to cut their Mic off. I thought she was supposed to be a news anchor not a commentator like O’reilly. You talk about right wing bias. She’s full of it.

  • BruinAlum77

    From the clip we heard two main points of view.

    Megyn Kelly claims that Justice Thomas should not recuse himself due to conflicts of interest because (according to her friends who are Supreme Court legal experts and who are liberal), if Thomas’ spouse has any professional interest in the case but not him, then there is no appearance of impropriety.

    Weiner reads from the law which states: a justice must disqualify himself if “he, individually, or his spouse, has a financial interest in the matter of controversy,” which could cause only the appearance of impropriety. There is not even the burden of proof that conflicts of interest appear; only the possible appearance of a lack of impartiality.

    Kelly responds that because the Tea Party groups opposing the health care reform law are not making money from fighting the legislation and paying Thomas’ wife to be one of their lobbyists, there is no conflict of interest.

    This disagreement between Kelly and the law that was quoted brings up two interesting legal questions:

    1) If a Supreme Court justice or their spouse makes money from a political lobbying group but that group does not make direct profits from their activities is this legal or not?

    2) If any businesses contributing to these political lobbying groups (which have paid Thomas’ wife $700K over 5 years) have a financial interest in seeing healthcare reform overturned, does this constitute a conflict of interest?

    If we extraploate the logic used in Kelly’s argument, it sounds as if it would be okay for any person with enough money to buy Supreme Court votes, as long as the person doing the bribing does not profit directly from the court’s decision. That doesn’t make a lot of sense considering the spirit of the law is to protect the people of this country from biased legal rulings based on personal gain or political preference.

  • Garth

    There is obviously some sexual tension between these two. I’d recommend an overnight.

  • Steve_27

    Weener was as usual, just that, a weener. The epitome of the typical liberal jerkoff, rude wrong and obnoxious.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Guy-L-Jones/1131956890 Guy L. Jones

    Wiener was as usual, right. The epitome of the typical correct liberals or moderates. Megan and steve-27, are, as usual, typical crazy right wing knee jerkers. Proof – if the situation were reversed, they would scream for recusal.
    Of course he needs to recuse himself, no matter which side that will help or hurt. It’s obvious.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Judy-Harders/100001504880479 Judy Harders

    Gee. Steve. you sound like all these Fox fans- no knowledge of the law or why the appearance of impropriety is as bad as impropriety and probably don’t know what recuse means. All you know how to do is name call without discussing facts. I am so tired of people who demonstrate no capacity for thought thinking they must participate in the conversation!

  • felixw

    valkyrie101 said:
    It is true that the current health care reform efforts fell woefully short, but be honest, that was because the republicans sought to undermine ANY reform. As it is now, even with the current law, 40 million people remain uninsured, and 20 or 30 thousand people a year die, in this country, for lack of health care. The republican solution involves forcing hospitals to pay for indigent care. In Sarasota, Florida, three hospitals just sued the county for 100 million dollars in reimbursement for that care. The republican solution, therefore, which is to do nothing, will bankrupt the state and local governments.

    Valkyrie, wake up…the Democrats had a dominant majority in the House. They didn’t need a single Republican vote to pass this disastrous piece of legislation. Their problem was that the bill was so out-of-whack, even many Democrats were reluctant to vote for it. And for good reason, since a hundred or so of the people who voted for Obamacare lost their jobs in the next election. I can understand why you might want to blame Republicans for this mess, but Democrats completely own it, top to bottom.

  • X-3

    If I were Anthony Wiener, I would NEVER go on Fox again–especially with Megyn Kelly. He gets his scrawny ass kicked so hard he leaves with a nose bleed every time.

  • X-3

    And who was it saying Clarence Thomas ought to be sent back to work in the fields and that he should be lynched?

    Oh, yeah, it was Code Pink, who donates heavily to Wiener’s campaign funds.

  • hgovernick

    Weiner summed it upped perfectly with the spoiled rotten Kelly when he said, “Okay, I heard your speech, now where’s the question?”

    That summary typifies Fox “commentators” in a nutshell. Most are only interested in relaying the daily right wing talking points while sneaking in their own supporting points of view in personal-opinion-speeches disguised as “journalism”.

    Way to go, Mr. Weiner.

  • andthehorseyourodeinon

    Wiener is a hot dog. Just don’t know if he’s Nathans or Hebrew National?

  • BOMBSHELL

    hgovernick said:
    Kelly summed it upped perfectly with the spoiled hotdog Weiner when she said, “Okay, I heard your lies, now get the hell out of here.” That summary typifies Weiner in a nutshell. Mostly he is only interested in portraying himself as an idiot so the libtards at Coke Stink–er, that’s Code Pink–will feel sorry for him relaying their left wing talking points. Way to go, Mr. Weiner.

    Hi uncle “nick.” Will you please buy me a kitten? You promised you would but you never did.

  • BruinAlum77

    The whole issue is whether Thomas should recuse himself, not the bizarre love-hate relationship between Kelly and Rep. Weiner, or the strange role news anchors at Fox play in adding editorial content as they break a story:

    “Megyn Kelly currently anchors “America Live,” (1-3 p.m. ET), a daytime news program on Fox News Channel (FNC), which launched in February of 2010.”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/personalities/megyn-kelly/bio/#ixzz1FkMFVC3e

    The issue as stated by the law is whether there is an “appearance of impropriety” in ruling on a case where the justice or spouse has financial interests in the final ruling. Kelly argued that there is no impropriety because Thomas’ wife does not own stock in or is paid by a company that stands to benefit from a ruling that overturns the healthcare reform law.

    However, she did not dispute the facts which are that Thomas’ wife earned $700K from a Tea Party group promoting their agenda. It’s also public record that a large part of the Tea Party’s initial activities was to go to the town hall meetings over health care reform and make so much noise at these meetings that no intelligent discussion could occur. There is also no dispute over the public record that Thomas did not declare his wife’s income for 5 years, claiming he did not understand the regulations, which consisted of a box to check.

    If you are going to respond, first state whether you would have had difficulty knowing if you had to declare your spouse’s income, especially $700K over five years.

    If we take Thomas at his word, and he was truly unable to understand basic tax code, does this meet the standard of legal brilliance required to serve on the nation’s highest court?

    And if Thomas was just trying to hide his income, then he is committing tax evasion, which is a federal crime.

    Either way, there is an “appearance of impropriety” in Justice Thomas even being a member of the Supreme Court.

  • hgovernick

    andthehorseyourodeinon said:
    Wiener is a hot dog. Just don’t know if he’s Nathans or Hebrew National?

    Whatever he is, you will never come close to achieving his success in life. Don’t worry, class isn’t everything.

  • hgovernick

    BOMBSHELL said:
    Hi uncle “nick.” Will you please buy me a kitten? You promised you would but you never did. I totally agree with your fantastic observation, where you said: Weiner summed it upped perfectly with the spoiled rotten Kelly when he said, “Okay, I heard your speech, now where’s the question?”

    That summary typifies Fox “commentators” in a nutshell. Most are only interested in relaying the daily right wing talking points while sneaking in their own supporting points of view in personal-opinion-speeches disguised as “journalism”.
    —–
    I just got it screwed up in my post because I’m just a screwed up person, as everybody can tell anytime they read anything I write.

    If you can’t get the kitten, I sure could use a great big dildo to stuff in my mouth to hold me off until I make the rounds at the truck stops again. Thanks, uncle “nick”.

  • BOMBSHELL

    hgovernick said:
    I just got it screwed up in my post because I’m just a screwed up person, as everybody can tell anytime they read anything I write.

    You tell ‘em uncle nick. And you also have an obsession with dildos. Why is that uncle nick?

  • hgovernick

    BOMBSHELL said:
    You tell ‘em uncle nick. And you also have an obsession with dildos. Why is that uncle nick?

    Because I love watching you beg for them.

  • BOMBSHELL

    hgovernick said:
    Because I love watching you beg for them.

    What are you, about twelve. You are the one talking about dildos–no one but you has mentioned them. I think I know what your obsession is–besides trying to show the world just how stupid you are.

  • hgovernick

    BOMBSHELL said:
    What are you, about twelve. You are the one talking about dildos–no one but you has mentioned them. I think I know what your obsession is–besides trying to show the world just how stupid you are.

    If you act like an ass, don’t get insulted if people ride you. Why don’t you sit down and give your brain a rest?

    Your mother should have thrown you away and kept the stork.

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