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Michele Bachmann Criticizes Gingrich’s Immigration Policy On Fox & Friends, Gingrich Responds

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Now that Newt Gingrich is the frontrunner in the GOP race, much of the media and political spotlight is on him, and the latest controversy to surround his campaign is his “humane” immigration policy that he made the case for at this week’s Republican presidential debate. One of Gingrich’s chief rivals, Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, appeared on Fox & Friends earlier today to give more insight into the former Speaker’s past stances on immigration policy.

Bachmann highlighted Gingrich’s past support of President Bush‘s amnesty policy, and was for amnesty as recently as last year. She admitted if Gingrich was only referring to illegal immigrants who have resided in the United States for over two decades as opposed to recent influxes of immigrants, Gingrich’s comments made more sense, but doubted this was his actual position.

She boasted that she was the only candidate running for president who signed a pledge to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, and denied she ever supported anything but the letter of the law in her immigration positions.

RELATED: Joe Scarborough: With His Immigration Comments, Gingrich ‘Strapped On Same TNT’ As Rick Perry

Bachmann’s comments clearly struck a nerve, and this afternoon Gingrich’s campaign responded by releasing a statement directly responding to her allegations.

“I am for deporting all recent unattached illegals. I am for a local citizen panel to consider certification of those who have been here 25 years and have family and community and have been law-abiding and tax paying. They could get what the Krieble Foundation developed as a ‘red card’ and be legal, but with no path to citizenship and no right to vote.”

Gingrich spokesman R.C. Hammond also told Fox News in an e-mail that Bachmann “is intentionally lying to people or she does not understand immigration reform.” Earlier this week on PBS NewsHour, Bachmann called Gingrich’s immigration policy the “most liberal” position of all the Republican candidates.

Watch Bachmann’s appearance here, courtesy of Fox News:

And Gingrich’s response is below, also from Fox:

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  • Ark

    0 comments…LOL

    ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • http://twitter.com/Brett_Cottrell Brett Cottrell

    Bachmann might actually be crazier than Gingrich.  I blame her husband though – poor Michele’s afraid he’s going to leave her for the Space Needle.
    http://brettcottrell.blogspot.com/2011/11/bachmanns-anti-statue-of-liberty-bias.html

  • Jonathan Cantor

    Lol anyone notice that the new fox and friends look similar to the old fox and friends (demographics, age and sex). I wonder if all fox and friends are the same demographics? The lack of diversity is kinda shocking. Note here I am not talking guests!

  • Kid Dynamite

    Gingrich and Bachmann battle it out for the title of Queen of Teabag Hill.

    Meanwhile, Marcus asks Calista if she has any brothers.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    “The lack of diversity is kinda shocking” 
    How can something KIND of shock you? Either you were actually shocked, quite a serious emotional response which can actually cause physical harm, or you were not, and what you felt was something which by definition did NOT shock you, but maybe just offended you, or struck you as wrong or mildly repulsive. 

  • Anonymous

    Michele Bachmann is the Saudi Arabia of ignorance.A wall would do nothing except enrich the private contractors that built it. Where they have fences near many of the border towns, Mexicans  just tunnel under the fence/ wall. Many tunnels that have been discovered have ventilation, electricity,lights, and supports. For every tunnel  they discover, you can bet there are at least 5 more undiscovered. The drug runners also use a catapult to get drugs  over the fences. Charge company executives from  Hormel and other packing plants with felonies and jail them for hiring illegals and  two things good things will happen. The illegal immigration will ebb when there are no employers to hire them,wages and the inhuman working conditions at the packing plants will improve because they won’t be able to exploit employees that cannot complain.The executives at Tyson, Smithfield Foods and Hormel/ Jennie O  should be held accountable, jailed and fined.

  • cma cma

    The entire Demented anti-American Left hates MB the most because she is the most principled and, courageous Constitutional Conservative on the national scene: the little lady with the spine of titanium. She actually believes in enforcing our laws. The Team Obama Left, in and out of the media, believe in “cutting American down to size.”

  • Ricci Dats Me

    Lets see, the GOP nominees have NO ISSUE building a wall to keep people “out”… Well, I’m not sure but that would mean that, in a way, these Americans have no issue equating themselves -on a certain wall building level- with the Ancient Chinese and Nazis. WOW, and I thought they had simple problems, but apparently their problems are much deeper. NO wonder GOP groups tend to enjoy throwing around words like SOCIALISM… its always ugly to hate a part of yourself.

    GOP folks, GET OFF the wall idea. Immigrants are NOT the issue facing the use in terms of economy or over zealous joy in rushing off to war. OUR problems is the GOP only has one person willing to have fun and dance. CAIN DANCE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs7fJ6jAOVU 

  • Rex the Wonder God

    I hate these sorts of knee-jerk cheap shots, no matter who’s the target.

    The TIMING here surprises me, not the move. Gingrich says all sorts of random crap, but this ‘nuanced’ (or ‘Newtaunced’) position on immigration is necessary for the Rrrr party because a nation of this size bordered by 50 foot high barb wire fences and machine gun pods, fences that don’t work anyway, is stupid to suicidal on several practical levels as a GENERAL election image.

    But for Gingrich to introduce this BEFORE Iowa, which has about as reactionary and isolated a view of immigrants as anywhere, seems … odd. Either that, or Gingrich has this idea that rich Iowa farm owners are ticked off they couldn’t get enough immigrant farm labor this year to get the crops in as cheaply as they wanted. 

    In any event, what Bachmann is doing here is too heavy-handed to work, even in her beloved “home state” where she grew up with John Wayne … Gacey. What Gingrich did with this goofy ‘local review boards’ concept is tap into the memory banks of really old Iowans who remember draft boards, in other words, a big part of the GOP base in Iowa, which Newt cannot get after otherwise on religious or family values, for obvious reasons. What Gingrich long term could end doing her is effect a pretend Overton Window effect for the General Election, where the Rrrr nominee can APPEAR to be running on a more “humane” policy than he actually is prepared to admit to the white nativist religidiotic GOP base.

    But again, doing this BEFORE Iowa isn’t necessary and makes no sense to me. But then it’s not as if Newt has exactly run a ‘perfect’ life before.

  • Valkyrie101

    Of course everybody already knows that Obama has been enforcing immigration laws, and deporting many more, than the prior administration.

    Ronald Reagan is the one who supported the IRCA 1986, which included amnesty for those who continuously resided in the US for the prior five years. I thought Bachmann liked Reagan. That amnesty program was a great success.

  • americanoutlaw

    That is true. You are not “kinda” a pompous douche.

  • americanjew

    I was amazed at the grillage of Bachman by FoxNews…Fox&Friends for that matter! Touche

  • Claudia Higginbotham

    Newt couldn’t be trying to win over the Hispanic vote, now could he?

  • Anonymous

    Lying ass bitch…good song!

  • Anonymous

    Lol, she talks like a zombie and doesn’t answer any questions no matter how simple the idiot hosts try to make them.

  • Anonymous

    But she didn’t answer any questions! She just keep spewing her TelePrompTer talking points.

  • TD

    Anyone else notice her book propped up in front of her on screen? Almost every Republican candidate has a recent book that they’re peddling, and it’s quite obvious none are serious candidates. Or if they are, and Obama isn’t re-elected, boy is there going to be an apocalypse.

  • Sra

    Newt is not taking the same hit as Perry. When explained in an intelligent manner you can make a difference.

    Too bad the Democratic Party doesn’t try to do that with Social Security. One step at a time and some changes for the good could actually happen.   

  • Anonymous

    Two racist morons looking for a winning formula within the boundaries of Republican fascism.

  • Anonymous

    Michele Bachmann is really beautiful. Her lustrous light-brown hair is a charming cascade of concupiscence.

  • Anonymous

    He didn’t take a hit in the polls because he’s the TP’ers last poke-in-the-eye to Romney. They warmed up to Gingrich after every other candidate went defunct. That after incessant bashing for his Pelosy sofa moment and his statement that the Reagan era is over. But now they’re willing to pretend all that didn’t happen

    The whole game has all along been undermining Romney. You seriously believe abortion-endorcing, mentally-absent, debaucher Cain is more consistent or coherent than Romney? What started the Cain ascent was Cain’s dissing of blacks, that trumps all else in the eyes of the tea party

  • Anonymous

    Newt’s a RINO.

  • Anonymous

    LSD?

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Douché!

  • Anonymous

    I noticed when Newt first proposed his plan during the debate he said, “If they have been here for 25 years, belong to a church, …etc”

    WTF does going to a church have to do with how the government treats you?

    More fascist-fundie bullshit from the Tealiban.

  • Hugo Daun

    Marcus and Newt are gonna get into one nasty slap-fight!

  • Rex the Wonder God

    This is good, at least for opening up the conversation.

    If you make it more attractive for folks to follow policy and more trouble than enough to skirt laws, that’s how smart policy and good government work. But if you make it effectively impossible for folks to follow policy because there IS no policy, and you give them no reasonable entry through laws, you provide a HUGE incentive to skirt laws, and that’s how we get underground economies and lighted tunnels with commercial amenities running under border fences like an infrastructure boom. 

    But we really don’t want to go after US employers, do we? And we won’t, will we, not in the Great Recession? So you’ve got the problem right, but the solution is not going to happen.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Woo, woo, take a valium cma squared. Your “entire Demented anti-American Left” doesn’t hate your beloved MB – they just think she’s cuckoo for cocoa puffs, bananas, on too high eye spin, nuttier than a Minnesota ground squirrel in spring, crazy as a kookabura, the little lady with the gyroscope bouncing around her brain as loose as an untied cannon in a sloop going around the Cape of Good Hope.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Ha! “concupiscence”! 
    Yeah, her knees and calves do look Reubensesque – fat ripples and dumpled dimples and shapeless-shifting. Her trick in winning the bathing suit competition part of this GOP Game Show comes down to the fact she’s the only one actively showing off kneesies. Watch some of the deparate others figure that out and try to compete at her level. And I’m not excluding them going all Priscilla of the Desert but I admit it seems unlikely. 

    And yet – there stands Jon Huntsman …

  • Rex the Wonder God

    But who’s the top and who’s the bottom?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jj-Wisniewski/100002654075475 Jj Wisniewski

    This is where Michele Bachmann can claim her extreme christian conservative values say that “humane” and   
    “T-Vangelicals” do not belong in the same sentence, Unfortunately for her, that’s where the majority of the country is not. WTF is wrong with the right wing of the party, do you want to win in 2012 or not. 

  • Tito Esposito

    That’s nothing, wait’ll you see Occupy Wall Street & Friends.

  • Obama2012

    Deep and true.

  • John Kliber

    What can you say about a country that’s scared to enforce it’s own borders cuz someone might cry “racist?”

    End all immigration now and kick out every single one here illegally, no matter how well-behaved they’ve been. It’s not 1900 and illegals have jobs – illegally.

  • Mencius

    You realize you just called her hair a waterfall of lust, right? You understand that makes her hair sound horny, not hot? I’m not sure how hair can be horny, and I definitely don’t think horny equals hot. 

  • Rufus Danegro

    Does it matter with those two?

  • Anonymous

    Gingrich punches…it’s Marcus who slaps like a girl…lol. 

  • cdnhawk

    Great practical solution.

  • Cam

    R.C. Hammond also told Fox News in an e-mail that Bachmann “is intentionally lying to people.  Well Mr. Hammond, you wouldn’t be calling Bachmann a Lyin Azz B*tch now would you?  Jimmy Fallon and NBC Exec had to apologize for that.

  • Anonymous

    Is this the Onion or Fox News? 

  • Anonymous

    One Korean moron posting a snarky comment from within the boundaries of his partisan, pseudo-intellectual brain. 

  • cdnhawk

    There’s a religious litmus test on every issue with Republicans it seems. You don’t go to church? Pack your bags and head back to Mexico por favor.

  • cdnhawk

    Right. They asked her what she would do with the 11 million illegals and she never answered the question!

  • cdnhawk

    I think the weekend version is a step up from the weekday one. No Doocey the dufus and Gretchen the clueless.

  • Anonymous

    I post truth. The reason you have a problem with it is because you are a Republican, and all Republicans are systematically trained to reject the truth.

  • Liberal Natural Selection

    This must mean you voted for president homeboy. I blame your husband for that freaky gay smile in your icon pic!

  • Liberal Natural Selection

    Kid Buttsmoke! How do you light the stick of dynamite when it’s so far up your butt?

  • Liberal Natural Selection

    Liberal mental illness is out of fuc king control on here! Why don’t you folks get together and pack?

  • Jonathan Cantor

    Yeah why am I being attacked?

  • Anonymous

    Who in the hell am I supposed to call a RINO in this one?

  • keninkansas

    I agree. Kick their phukin asses out even if they do belong to a church. Illegal is illegal.

  • keninkansas

    can someone kick trevor in the teeth with their steel toed boots he keeps saying the same thing over and over…

  • Anonymous

    It’s very important for Republicans to know that they have been systematically trained to reject truth. Too many people are too polite to Republicans, and our country has suffered greatly as a result. The more people tell the truth about Republicans, be better off we will be.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Yup, whenever possible, raise an image of violence. Cheap bully talk on the Net.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    I believe Sitting Bull said the same thing

  • http://twitter.com/runforfun54 Ilene K

    And when, exactly, will anyone in the media have the BALLS to ask any of these candidates how they would FUND their idiot ideas of either forcing undocumented workers to leave, or deporting them.  Total media fail.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    I’m going to make a second screen name and call it Waterfall Of Lust.  Or start a band with that name.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    Immigration seems to be the same issue as debt.  The core Republican belief is anti-illegal Immigration and a balanced budget, however over the post 30 years, debt was ballooned under Reagan and Bush W, and illegal immigration tripled under Bush W.  It also reminds me of a story in 2000 where a little boy tried to enter the country illegally.  The right wanted him to stay and the dems supported a defacto military style deportation.

  • Dawks82

    My god this is a big joke,

  • Cam

    Oh they will find the money for that through Slick Rick Parry’s proposal of having Texas secede or eliminating the Dept of Engergy.

    GOP Candidates = Wack A Mole

  • Tex the Thunder God

    “…struck you as wrong or mildly repulsive.” 
    How can something MILDLY repulse you? Either you were actually repulsed or you were not, and
    what you felt was something which by definition did NOT repulse you, but
    maybe just offended you, or struck you as kind of shocking.

  • azgrandma

    One needs a brain to answer a question and so guess that explains her. Yeah – Zombie fits!

  • Same Sex Liberal Kindergarten

    Kid Buttsmoke! How do you light the stick of dynamite when it’s so far up your butt?

  • Tennessee3501

    Congresswoman Michele Bachmann is a strong, independent, intelligent, attractive, articulate, powerful and accomplished conservative woman.  She has been selected by Forbes Magazine as one of the 100 most powerful women in America.  She is ranked number 22 behind Oprah (14), Michelle Obama (8) and Hillary (2).  She has also been slected by Time Magazine as one of the 100 most influential Americans, male or female.  This terrifies the liberals who want their women wither to be “left wing kooks” or remain quiet, barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.  Michele is living the life which Gloria Steinham and the “Womens Libbers” envisioned for women four decades ago.  She has an outstanding education, a husband, a family and a phenominally successful career.  She has it all!  She is a great role model for American women!

  • Tennessee3501

    Are you suggesting that Marcus wants to fix Michele up with Calista’s brothers?  Shame on you!  Marcus and Michele have been happily married for 33 years!

  • Anonymous

    IILENE,

    Repatriating illegals is simpler than you think.  Many Police stops for minor infractions uncover illegals, which would take care of a significant portion of the “FUND[s]” you are concerned about.  No matter how careful one is, we all get pulled over, sometime?

    Similarly, I knew a contractor down the street, by the coast, who was using illegals and I turned him in.  Poof!

    Sooner or later, by simple attrition, a portion of the illegal aliens will be discovered and deported.  It may take a while, but the cost is minimal.  The problem is, keeping them whence they came…

    The main problem, of deporting illegals comes from irrational people who are under the impression that we American’s have to save everyone.  The truth is, we can’t!  There are a plurality of American’s who can’t do simple mathematics or understand basic economics.  This “plurality,” substitues basic proven formula’s for emotional inclination.

    Purveyor

  • Tennessee3501

    I believe that the next attack on Michele and Marcus from the liberals will be a demand that Michele withdraw from the race for their failing to take in 11 million illegals as foster children!

  • Anonymous

    What did you just write, and to whom were you referring too?

  • Anonymous

    WHAT, is the “joke?”  Did I miss something?

  • Tennessee3501

    Michele is a very intelligent and ravishingly beautiful woman.  She can answer any question that she is asked!  She can’t help it if you do not understand what she is saying.  Shakespeare had the same problem

  • Anonymous

    Point taken!  (regarding Sitting Bull)

    However…

    Purveyor

  • keninkansas

    you mean like how the librul media asked how obamacare would be funded? those balls?

  • Tennessee3501

    Rex, you say nasty things about poor Michele all the time!  She has a very delicate nature and might get hurt.  Please say something nice and tell her that you are sorry for the 50,000 nasty comments that you have posted just this week.  (P. S. Where do you find so much time?)

  • Tennessee3501

    Didn’t President Obama write a new book in 2008 and print more copies of his previous works?

  • Tennessee3501

    Look, some people have a “foot fetish” and lust after Michele’s feet!  What is wrong with all men (and some women) being turned on by her hair?

  • Tennessee3501

    Using your logic, Sitting Bull would be a conservative Republican and would be supporting Michele!

  • Tennessee3501

    Did Rick Perry finally remember that we have a Department of Energy?

  • Tennessee3501

    This is not a big joke!  It is an intellectually stimulating conversation!

  • Mencius

    You missed the point. 

  • azgrandma

    I fully understand that she just blabbers on an on and makes no sense at all but she was just so cute sitting there with her book clearly in sight!  Is that so we willl be impressed?  That would be a NO

  • azgrandma

    Hopefully tennessee3501 will read your post and it will sink in – I don’t know what part of she doesn’t answer the question it doesn’t get.

  • Anonymous

    Yes. I have been terrified for two years now.
    NOT!

  • Same Sex Liberal Kindergarten

    You are one horny old hag.

  • Bal

    although her husband thinks he can treat people that have a case of the gays! 

  • shonangreg

    But how do you tell someone that basically they’ve been brainwashed? That kind of truth is just too ugly to be listened to. You might as well try to explain evolution to a sincerely inquiring fundamentalist Christian, “Evolution is true and you’ve been brainwashed.”

  • cdnhawk

    She doesn’t answer the question she is asked. She just spouts talking points that are stored in the vast waste of space that is her brain. Buy my book. I’m such a wonderful person. You know I have a gazillion foster kids. God told me to run for President. I am the chosen one.

  • Anonymous

    ????? planet are you from?

  • http://twitter.com/Icabods Icabod

    If that is the case then why does she lie all of the time? 

  • Ethan

    peter doocey!!

  • Rex the Wonder God

    I can’t promise for others, but I won’t attack M & M Bachmann for taking in short-term ‘foster’ children (That’s what they were – not permanent in the sense of being legally adopted or the like.), not least because this was something my own parents did in relation to over 40 children over the years. 

    Two of those stayed in my parents’ home with the rest of us, a large family to start with, for over a year; but most for under two months, while local authorities investigated and assessed their own parents’ home circumstances or until they were placed with others.  

    There may have been other differences, but – my parents, indeed none of us, ever referred to any of those children as “foster”. Also, I’ve seen suggestions the Bachmann’s ‘foster children’ were brought in under religious umbrella organizations consistent with the beliefs of the Bachmanns, which may mean their care didn’t present a great change, as their ‘fosters’ may have come in from roughly equivalent ‘belief’ circumstances (whereas my parents were ecumenically agnostic about church affiliations & associated beliefs). Plus the fact Michele Bachmann never fails to bring up that the Bachmanns took in those ‘foster children’, in every stump speech & in intro to a GOP Show epidose  0 seems – I can’t resist – more than a little repulsive; I wonder if she obtained a legal waiver that permits her to use them in this way. But all those are quibbles: it’s a good thing they did, even as she’s turned it into a campaign meme.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    And yet, that ‘little boy’ looked thrilled to be re-united with his father, and seems to be thriving:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli%C3%A1n_Gonz%C3%A1lez_affair#Return_to_Cuba

    so it does appear the right thing got done.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    I don’t think she acts like a zombie or is mentally challenged at all. I do think she has some emotional problems related to her religious beliefs, each of which render her unfit to for the office of president, particularly because there’s no reason to trust her to uphold the constitutional requirement of separating state business from religious beliefs, but at least one and up to three of her fellow contestants seem to share that same deficit. This is aside from the things she says about taxes and the US government revenues situation, on which, given her oath to serve in Congress & her supposed ‘career’ as an IRS lawyer, either she’s a substandard lawyer or she’s lying. 

  • Rex the Wonder God

    How do you know that I am only one person?

    (cue the eerie music …)

  • Wero
  • Chauncy Gardner

    You forgot stupid moron. Thought her 15 minutes were up. BTW newtie is not the frontrunner and neither are any of the rest of the clown brigade. It’s Rombot. Better learn to love him righties. He’s the only shot you have to win and he doesn’t stand much of a chance. I kind of like ole Romney. I know he supports my position on every issue at least half of the time!

  • Chauncy Gardner

    I don’t know a single person who really gives a damn about immigration. Only the 30% that are going to vote for the republican under any circumstance care. This is a non issue. It is fun however to watch Republicans fight over who can be the meanest and most bigoted.

  • Valkyrie101

    He has quality medical care freely available to him, but if he had stayed in the US he may be among the tens of millions of poorer people who have no insurance and are left to wait until they become “emergency” ready, with 40K or so people a year dying from that.

  • Anonymous

    Marcus has been in the closet for 32 of those years

  • Valkyrie101

    This is a very complicated issue and it seems to me that even the liberals are somewhat befuddled. Again, the Reagan model, IRCA (The Immigration Reform and Control Act) 1986, allowed anyone (and their immediate family) who could proove continuous US residence for the prior five years, and, provide proof that they had a job or a valid job offer, to get conditional green cards. Of course a green card (permanent US residence) does not allow a person to vote. It is, rather, a path to citizenship, with conditions.

  • Billy Sunday

    Hey Purvert1 if you’re going to talk about simple mathematics and basic economics can you back up your B.S. with actual numbers! 

  • Socratease

    You’re right, they clearly need more token minorities

  • keninkansas

    illegals are bankrupting the country, a-hole

  • Anonymous

    Michele Bachmann is a joke.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    I wasn’t agreeing or disagreeing with anything done in that case. It was handled badly on both sides. My point was that no one is proposing a fence to the north and it seems the only illegal immigration problem that a lot of people see are from Mexicans.

  • Anonymous

    Couldn’t possibly be the unfunded wars in Iraq and Afganastan.

  • Anonymous

    Ubeci-becki-becki-becki-stan- stan?

  • Anonymous

    Lying Ass Bitch!

  • Anonymous

    SUNDAY,

    First and foremost I refuse to indulge someone who insinuates themselves into another’s conversation,  then refers to me in a pejorative variation of my chosen ‘nom de plume.’  How uncouth!Moreover, you make my point for me by asking ME to prove pure mathematics, and the result on human interaction.  I suspect you can do such all by yourself, but, that would cause you “cognitive dissonance,”  despite the supporting science.  Hence, and typically, you resort to a denial of reality.In effect, when America’s treasury is in the “red,” we have to stop spending and curtail expenses.  Unless, of course, one desires to knowingly, damage the economic foundation of the Nation, ergo, print and borrow more money without a reasonable plan to pay that money back!  I call that “economic treason.”Historically speaking, there is plenty of blame to go around.  However, our current National Philosophy, has been one of Socialism and our President has done more damage in 3 years, than previous Presidencies combined.  BUT, I am certain you know all of this so in order to avoid, “cognitive dissonance,” you accuse others of malfeasance, while limiting your own failings.There, that ought to cover it without being too acquiescent.Purveyor

  • http://www.facebook.com/sootsme Ed Williams

    Newt, for all his smarts and devastating satirical wit, has an even bigger problem. His position on firearms for the citizenry is consistently terrible. He voted for the Brady bill, and has been on the wrong side ever since. Dang that old Constitution, anyway…

    INVEST IN PRECIOUS METAL- BUY LEAD!

  • Anonymous

    Why?

    Are you referring to her criticism of Newt Gingrich?  I thought Gingrich’s proposal was politically astute, i.e., Newt effectively effectively threw the Illegals’ “bone,” and if properly policed there would be no amnesty for the original illegal or their progeny.  (the children of illegal’s, are illegal too in my “conclusion”!

    Old English Common Law, which influenced our laws, dictates that NO PROFIT CAN COME FROM AN ILLEGAL ACT!

    So, is that why you don’t like Bachman?  (Hmm, is it a form of religious bigotry on your part?)

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    The law is the law, if you don’t like it, change it, The law was enacted to protect Americans and their jobs and the past few administrations have ignored it to line their own pockets and ensure their reelection. With the withdraw of troops from Iraq and soon Afghanistan, where are our troops going to find jobs ? Eisenhower and Truman were sensible presidents, they put Americans first. We owe our our troops, we don’t owe illegal aliens anything. Don’t say Americans won’t do the jobs that aliens do. Many of the jobs that are held by aliens are in construction and repair of large projects.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t think of a thing that I agree with Newt on other than, along with Perry, he is at least looking at the immigration issue a bit more rationally then most of the GOP. I do have a solution that I believe both sides cac come together on:

    http://wordsofwhizdumb.com/2011/08/with-aplogies-to-green-mile.html#more

  • Anonymous

    thanx, LNS, for additional proof that watching Fox News actually reduces the knowledge-content of your brain.

  • Anonymous

    Goose-stepping group-goonery.

  • Anonymous

     Bachman lied that Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said that “if he has a nuclear weapon he will use it to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. He will use it against the United States of America.”
    No such Statement was ever made.

    Michele Bachmann Lied About Her Own Family History To Sound More Iowan in her speech at the March 24 and 25 Rediscover God in America conference in Iowa,

    Bachmann Lied About Her HPV Vaccine Claims During Republican Debate

    “Obamacare is killing jobs. We know that from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, but I know it firsthand from speaking to people.”….It should be noted that most of the national health care legislation has yet to be implemented so cannot be making much of an impact on the jobs market

    Bachmann told John King on CNN  : “America needs to keep its promise to senior citizens, I talk to them all the time. I love senior citizens. I care about them”.,,,,,,,,, She cares about them? Really? Bachmann is for dissolving the Social Security Administration. She stated so in her well-documented position at a Conservative Coalition conference in 2010: ” So, what you have to do, is keep faith with the people that are already in the system, that don’t have any other options, we have to keep faith with them. But basically what we have to do is wean everybody else off. And wean everybody off because we have to take those unfunded net liabilities off our bank sheet, we can’t do it. So we just have to be straight with people.”

    She lies all the time. I could continue,  Bachmann is so transparent.!
    I will say it again.
    She is a joke!

  • Anonymous

    Bachmann might be crazier than Gingrich?
    No question in my mind!

  • Anonymous

    Another Homophobe?

  • BooBoo Bear

    Michelle needs to look back to one of her hero’s Reagan, who endorsed almost the same kind of immigration policy as Newt is doing now. But I do have a question for Michelle why is it that the GOP hero’s words Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall….Mean that the US is fine in building one?

  • Anonymous

    No matter how much Newt Gingrich may attempt to
    deny it, he is for total amnesty of all illegal aliens. Just ask Michele
    Bachmann. She knows what amnesty is all about. She is a true conservative.
    Gingrich and Rick Perry are pseudo-conservatives. If any true conservative
    votes for him, they might just as well as vote for the other GOP candidate who
    is for amnesty—Rick Perry. Newt Gingrich has too many skeletons in the
    closet–too much baggage. To wit,

    He is a proven adulterer. He screwed around on
    his ex-wives even before he divorced them. He fooled around while his second
    wife was ill in bed. What a scumbag! He is no better than Arnold the
    Gubernator, Jack Kennedy, John Edwards, and Bill Clinton—all scumbags. Women do
    not like New Gingrich because he is not a faithful husband. My wife will never
    vote for him because of his infidelities.
    When he was Speaker of the House many years ago,
    he became a much-hated man because of all of the political hack shenanigans he
    pulled on everyone. He even closed down the government. He was the “Gingrinch
    that stole Christmas.” People were so upset with him, that they ran him out of
    Washington, DC.
    Gingrich is an intellectual. Just ask him. He
    is an erudite scholar. He is neither a manager nor a leader. He is very smart
    yet very stupid.
    He denies that he was a lobbyist of Freddie Mac
    and Fannie Mae and says he was just an advisor. Yes, he might just as well as
    be an advisor of the Mafia, the CPUSA, ACORN, the drug cartels, and the Obama
    administration. Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are criminal organizations. All the
    other organizations listed are corrupt, criminal organizations. Newt is a
    criminal for advising criminal organizations, and he is a lobbyist.
    Gingrich cannot be trusted. He torpedoed Paul
    Ryan’s outstanding plan to overhaul Medicare. He apologized, but that was too
    late. If he watched his mouth before spouting off, he would not suffer from
    “foot in mouth” disease.
    Newt and wife went on a vacation right at a
    crucial moment of his campaign. Hence, key members of his campaign team
    resigned and went over to Rick Perry’s campaign team. Newt is not a leader. He
    is an intellectual—a college professor. He cannot lead.

    Do not get sucked in by Newt Gingrich. He will
    say and do anything to become president of the United States (POTUS). He will
    screw people like Paul Ryan. He will quickly apologize and backtrack whenever
    we catch him with his pants down or his hand in the cookie jar. Gingrich can
    neither manage nor lead large business organizations, as can Mitt Romney and
    Herman Cain. He is a pure politician—a pure political hack. His day has come
    and gone. As Speaker of the House, he was no better than Nancy Pelosi. As
    POTUS, he will be no better than Barack Hussein Obama (BHO). Be very leery of
    Gingrich and his brand of politics. We do not need another politician as
    POTUS.

    Gingrich became a front-runner because he
    attacked the media during the debates. The people liked that because the
    lame-stream media is nothing but an inhuman scumbag. He faked it and appeared
    to be a great white leader and grandfather. The people like that. So they
    voted for him. He appeared to expound Ronald Reagan and his 11th
    Commandment. People liked that. However, he will cut the political throats of
    any of his opponents, as he cannot get away from being a typical political
    hack. He is using the people—no different than BHO. People, do not be used by
    Gingrich the manipulator.

    The Tea Partiers, Constitutional Conservatives,
    and Republicans will be making a huge, fatal mistake by electing Newt Gingrich
    as the Republican nominee and standard-bearer. America will be better off with
    Romney, Perry, Cain, Bachmann, or Santorum as our next POTUS. Think about it
    fellow Americans. Let us elect someone who will get us out of our terrible
    financial mess that BHO got us into. Let us not make the same mistake by
    electing another pure politician who makes all decisions as driven by politics
    instead of the good of the country and “We the People.”

  • Anonymous

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2008/08/at-mosque-week-sermon-ahmadinejad/

    WOW!  That’s the most substantive thing you’ve ever written… LOL

    I’m not a big fan of Bachman either, especially her inflexible stand on homosexuality and abortion. But, that Islam wants to destroy Israel, particularly Iran, is axiomatic?

    Just Google “Ahmadinejad wants to destroy Israel,” there are numerous quotes?

    I’ll take a more thorough look at your other assertions, later, but, I think we agree on Social Security.

    But, “Obamacare” is Socialism, and Socialism kills jobs, because Socialism removes jobs from the private to the public which I have to pay your bills, and you have to pay mine…

    “To each according to his needs, from each according to his abilities”    Karl Marx 

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    OK, a couple more comments:

    First, respectfully, you really dislike the woman, is there an issue you are not mentioning?

    As for the Obamacare issue, the Democrats are asserting that jobs are being lost because Obamacare isn’t being implemented. However, those are “public” jobs as they would be part of the massive public healthcare system.

    Bachman and Republican’s are asserting that jobs are being lost because a competent PRIVATE health care system is not be allowed to flourish.

    Of course, they are both right, either system will create jobs, but, do you want a Post Office template health care, that looses money by way of a plethora of mis-management? Or, a FORD Motor Company template, that cleans up its act and hires the proper amount of employees?

    Public bureaucracies and jobs are parasitic. They may be necessary parasites, but, parasites nonetheless. (Fireman, Police, Teachers, maintenance) Private health care, allowed to do business across State lines and properly policed and regulated with tough laws and punishment is the proper solution. (ask Donald Trump?)

    Sadly, people like you, AND ME, no longer trust private industry (and politicians) because of multinationals and “economic treason?” America has become the wealthiest nation in the world because of capitalism, NOT Socialism. Unfortunately, like the “Robber Barons” of the late 19th century, we have had another spate with people Bernie Madoff, ENRON and TYCO, etc.

    As for Social Security, a line must be drawn guaranteeing payouts to one group of people, and a diminishing return to those have not paid in so mush? Sounds easy, doesn’t it? HAH!

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    First of all I would like to address the fact that I am in no way a bigot! Nor do I care about someone’s beliefs as long as they don’t effect me. If you are a Buddist or a Christian it make no difference to me.I do have friends who are very strong in their beliefs. They will even quote scripture to me.LOL I don’t mind.They are like well written novels.Poetry sometimes. I find some meaning in life from all religions.  I am still an agnostic.Stories too wild and are not logical. 
    As far as a social medical system. They seem to work well providing in many other countries. The “Obamacare” is not a total social medical system. It is only mixed with the private sector.Not really that radically diffrent than is has been. It can and will be improved on. It just gives people a right to medical care. A basic need. Isn’t that is what government should be addressing,It’s peoples basic needs?
    Hillary is right, It does take a village!

    The World Health Organization’s
    rankingof the world’s health systems

    1 France
    2 Italy
    3 San Marino
    4 Andorra
    5 Malta
    6 Singapore
    7 Spain
    8 Oman
    9 Austria
    10 Japan
    11 Norway
    12 Portugal
    13 Monaco
    14 Greece
    15 Iceland
    16 Luxembourg
    17 Netherlands
    18 United Kingdom
    19 Ireland
    20 Switzerland
    21 Belgium
    22 Colombia
    23 Sweden
    24 Cyprus
    25 Germany
    26 Saudi Arabia
    27 United Arab Emirates
    28 Israel
    29 Morocco
    30 Canada
    31 Finland
    32 Australia
    33 Chile
    34 Denmark
    35 Dominica
    36 Costa Rica
    37 United States of America

    All of the countries listed above have some sort of social medical system in place.
    BTW :if you do not have your health you have nothing!!!!!

    Addressing homosexuality.To each their own.I don’t care. It doesn’t effect me

    Abortion.It’s a tough call. But I still believe a woman should have a right to control their own body.

  • Anonymous

    That is not true. They typically give way more than they get.

  • Anonymous

    “Quantity vs. quality,”  which is a typically Socialist viewpoint.  The WHO (World Health Organization) is an anti American, Socialist organization that has been taking American money and then misappropriating a major portion of those funds, for years! (stealing)  Much of it going to provide healthcare to terrorist nations.  (Like the UN, I would like to see them both dissolved.)

    However, for the purposes of our discussion I assert that IF, one has a competent and effective form of Health Care insurance, then America has, no comparison, in fact, the BEST health care in the world.  However, if you don’t have insurance, which means you are underemployed, then you wouldn’t mind the very average socialized healthcare provided by the list you offered.

    SOME MEDICINE IS BETTER THAN NO MEDICINE?

    According to an ongoing study by “The Commonwealth Fund”….

    In terms of quality care, the US ranks #1 in :diagnosing and providing the proper care.  Also, #1 in “preventive care.”  #1 in “respiratory and circulatory, including diabetes medicine.”(Cancer and Cardiac care and on and on)  The big one that puts American’s ahead in quality, is how “promptly they see needed specialists.”

    As far as your suggestion that Obamacare is part Socialist, part Capitalist?  That may be what they sold you, BUT, thats NOT, what you are going to get!  We can talk about this later.

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    Did you read the article from the top of the comment? Seems Ahmadinejad did say he wanted to destroy Israel.

  • Anonymous

    VOLT,

    That was an interesting exchange. Your assertions made me do some research and consider different ideas. Like I said that was the “most substantive” comments I’ve received from you!

    On a tangential note: Human kind must begin to consider population. We have enough ROOM for lots of people, but, what about the quality of life? Sounds similar to health care issue, doesn’t it?

    Purveyor

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