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MSNBC’s Thomas Roberts: Why Don’t Americans Consider Congress’ Inaction An ‘Act Of Treason’?

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It’s been frustrating for many in the media and the American people to sit back and watch the markets go crazy since America’s credit downgrade on Friday, while some of the few people who can react to situation are on vacation. Case in point: MSNBC’s Thomas Roberts, who in speaking with guest Ezra Klein today suggested that future Congressional inaction in light of the dire situation may be considered “an act of treason.”

Roberts was discussing the market madness with Klein and CNBC’s Ron Insana, noting that Klein’s blog had posted an analysis that suggested that Congress would be less inclined to act to stop the decline the deeper it went. The article, by contributor Suzy Khimm, elaborates on how difficult it is to build consensus around any plan in a polarized Congress, and how the situation gets only increasingly complicated as the economy declines. Roberts turned to Klein and cited the piece, asking if “the worse this gets, the less likely Congress will act to stop the bleeding, why don’t people look at that as an act of treason?”

Klein didn’t comment on whether it was treasonous or not, but added that “it’s a reality of politics right now– for Republicans, they’re in better shape if the economy is doing poorly and Obama looks week.” He was quick to note, however, that there was nothing sinister about this: “I don’t think what happens is Mitch McConnell and John Boehner retire to their volcano lair and plot how to doom the economy.” He did note that the climate was ripe for gridlock and that “we actually do need government action,” but it was difficult to come to a consensus on what that would be.

Insana jumped in to add that the idea that “deficit reduction in the short run would somehow help the economy” was “flatly untrue,” as cutting costs would mean more government employees out of work and drowning the job market.

The segment via MSNBC below:



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  • Anonymous

    Congressional inaction is a blessing.  We should insist that they take longer vacations.  Just calculate how much of our money they spend for every day they are in DC……

  • Moderate

    Congress’ Inaction An ‘Act Of Treason’?Give it up fellows, you are beating a dead horse.

  • Anonymous

    Could somebody explain to this dipshit what an “elected representative” is?

  • Moderate

    as cutting costs would mean more government employees out of work and drowning the job market.

    Continuing to put the burden on our grandchildren of paying for our wasteful ways can not stand.

  • Anonymous

    More To The Point….Why Don’t Americans Consider The Sitting President Of The United States Of America Having Your Boss Fully Entrenched In Our White House While You And The Rest Of His Minions Lie To & Cheat The American People On His Behalf An ‘Act Of Treason’?

  • Anonymous

    MSDNC continues their spin. Apparently inaction is producing not one, but two plans and passing a balanced budget admendment – that the Senate refused to fully debate. The Dem controlled Senate did not pass a budget but did propose some joint frameworks for discussions – hardly specific bills – and the President did NOTHING ! 
    In the make believe world of MSDNC, something (Reps) is nothing and nothing (Obama) is something. Who knew ?
    So MSDNC’s parent (GE) pays something (nothing) in taxes, and the middle class and the rest of us pay nothing…that is really something.
    MSDNC on air people like Bashir et al are all in a race to become the next Obermann…so the race to the bottom is continuing as they abandon reason, fact and rational discourse – perhaps they will echo Moore and demand the arrest of the President of S & P.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Because Americans are stupid and don’t even know what that word means.

  • Fenngibbon

    Y’know, I seem to recall that during the Bush years, liberals and progressives were constantly accusing conservatives of calling the Left unpatriotic, unAmerican, treasonous, etc., and yet, when pressed, they couldn’t provide actual examples (I think you could count the number of actual instances on one hand).  And yet, ever since Obama came in, I don’t think a week has gone by in which I haven’t read of somebody accusing conservatives of being unpatriotic, treasonous, or just plain unAmerican.  Hmm.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    What a conformist pussy Thomas Roberts is. Just because you can’t deal with your own problems in life, you want to call Congress doing nothing — which is the best thing they can do for America — an act of treason? How pathetic…

  • Anonymous

    I’m not even going to comment on what Roberts said.  It’s so plainly idiotic, it speaks for itself.  But, Ron Insana said something that I think deserves comment….

    “Insana jumped in to add that the idea that “deficit reduction in the
    short run would somehow help the economy” was “flatly untrue”

    I think perhaps in years past, he’d be right.  Increased spending by the government, even deficit spending, had a buoying effect on the economy.  Today, however, we are in a brand new paradigm.  Never before have we been in THIS much debt relative to GDP, and never before – not even during WWII – have we run these kinds of deficits as a percentage of treasury receipts.  Put another way, the old models are absolutely worthless because we have never had these kinds of deficit variables before.

    Businesses know that the gravy train is going to have to stop, either sooner or later.  So, they’re hoarding cash as a result, and I can’t say that I blame them.  If government adds a little stability and predictability to the equation, people – and I mean business owners – will be able to plan, which will begin to ease the panic that we’re suffering right now.

    I think Insana is wrong, and when he doesn’t recognize the differences between the past and where we are today, he’s either not being genuine or he just doesn’t get it.

  • Anonymous

    Just in case Thomas Roberts happens to check Mediaite for the reaction to his show, I’d like to help him out.
    Treason: definition
    1. Violation of allegiance toward one’s
    country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one’s country by waging
    war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its
    enemies.
    2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.
    Failure to act due to differing politics is just part of the way our republic works, not treason. Their has to be some intent to betray or harm the nation.

    You’d think it would be kind of important for an outfit like MSNBC to hire folks that already know stuff like this wouldn’t you?

  • Anonymous

    If Thomas Roberts does check this site, here’s my comment:

    THOMAS, YOU ARE A DUMB FUCKING ASSHOLE. TAKE YOUR IDIOTIC STATEMENT – AND YOUR CONTINUAL PUSHING OF GAY MARRIAGE – AND SHOVE THEM UP YOUR ASS.

    Thanks for the space to rant against the ignoramus Thomas Roberts.

  • Anonymous

    Ezra Klein is so great he knows Fing everything about the economy and politics, war etc…. So when will he be running for POTUS? When is he going to man up and put his money where his mouth is. He’s has never done anything but know about everything. Using Obama analogy of the democrats being in the driver seat of the car now. Erza Klein has never driving a car or fixed a car. He has only read about it or watch a video or two and now he is an expert on the complete subject of the automobile from designing a race engine to building the engine and then actually driving the car in a race.

    Thanks Obama for taking the engine out of the U.S.A and replacing it with batteries. Just like the Chevy Volt it doesn’t go far without another charge ( government spending).

  • Anonymous

    Oh yeah forgot to say this Erza is trying to throw the idea there of Obama becoming a dictator just like Dylan Ratigan did with his rant about Obama going around the “bought congress” and going straight to the people. The majority that voted him in office and doing what they want while screwing the rest of the country.

  • Anonymous

    Has it really reached the point that if you advocate for smaller government and less spending it should be  an act of treason? Unbelievable how the left-tilted media is completely freaking out. After the GOP held the legislature in Wisconsin yesterday, someone should put the folks at MSNBC on suicide watch. 

  • Anonymous

    Fcat: Thanks for the Obama voter plug!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    Many Americans do think that what Congress did is an act of treason. Need to try these treasonous congresspeople like we did back in the old days.

  • http://twitter.com/Good_Lt Good Lt.

    Treason?

    Does the Democrat Senate not passing a federal budget in over 800 days (and counting) count as inaction, and therefore, treason?

    Why yes. Yes it does.

    Go forth, MSNBC moron, and run with this newest attempt to criminalize dissent from your chosen party’s politics.

    Go, go! For the food of the nation!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek Bulk Vanderhuge

    95 House Democrats voted against raising the debt ceiling as compared to only 66 House Republicans. Shouldn’t all the media outrage be directed towards them? 

  • TruDat

    MSNBC is truly turning from partisan idiocy to sheer absurdity.

  • Anonymous

    The issue of treason has been getting some traction.  Take a peek:

    Teabaggers delight in accusing non-Baggers of
    treason. It’s time to turn the tables. As Baggers pulled a political stunt
    designed to destroy America’s government and got far enough to see our nation’s
    sacrosanct and pristine credit soiled, it is time to call these anti-American
    Confederate wannabes what they are: traitors.

    Here is what Baggers’ leader in the Senate, the
    bejowled Turtle Mitch McConnell, had to say about the teabagger hostage-taking
    that nearly crashed American capitalism into a wall of teabagging ignorance:

    The Treasonous Turtle

    http://beeryblog.wordpress.com/2011/08/06/the-treasonous-turtle/

  • Anonymous

    What the GOP/TP did was beyond mere advocacy; they became
    bomb throwers.  Once they were sworn into
    office they became responsible governing. They could no longer stand on the
    sidelines and be bomb throwers by threatening to allow the full faith and
    credit of the United States government to collapse.  By threatening to blow up the economic
    foundations of the nation; they became domestic enemies rather than
    lawmakers.  Their actions undermined
    their oath of office in which they swore “to support and defend the
    Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. .
    . .”   In accordance with their
    sworn oath of office, their behavior and actions made them domestic enemies.

    Congressional Oath:  “I
    do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution
    of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will
    bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely,
    without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and
    faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So
    help me God.”

  • Anonymous

    Domestic treason is also embedded Grover Norquist’ pledge, because it does not allow Congress people to make decisions freely.  The GOP/TP is obligated to a person other than the United States Constitutions.  The oath Congress takes says that their obligation is taken “freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion” which is subverted by Grover Norquist’s pledge.

    Congressional Oath: ”I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

  • Anonymous

    There was an intent to harm the nation by threatening to allow the full faith and credit of the United States government to collapse. By threatening to blow up the economic foundations of the nation; they became domestic enemies rather than lawmakers.  Their actions undermined their oath of office in which they swore “to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. . . .”   In accordance with their sworn oath of office, their behavior and actions made them domestic enemies.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Where does the oath say that they must support an ever growing Federal Government that has far over stepped it’s consitutional Mandate?  It can just as well be argued that they were the only ones in congress who were upholding their sworn oath.. 

    Your hatred blinds you!

  • Anonymous

    It is really disturbing that you may actually believe what you just wrote. That’s some pretty out-there, fringe thinking.

  • Grayce

    Nonfeasance is just as bad as malfeasance when there is a critical need to take action.
    To “advocate for smaller government is an activity for a discussion group, or group therapy confessions. Advocate is to be vocal and hot air is not a legislative activity. We needed congress and the senate to take a serious look at the real world. We need someone to THINK. If you have an idea in seclusion, then just use memory or a pledge or a prejudged view of make-believe, then you may feel above the fray. But if you hold office, if you represent a bunch of people, then the luxury of advocating–pontificating–and making headlines is not what you were elected for.
    Sorry. Winning an election is the beginning of a job. A job? Yes, our representatives are paid to govern, be it small or large, it is government. Tea Partiers who win an election have a job. Their job is to make the country run. It is not to throw spitballs.

  • Grayce

    The problem, Hedup, is that we are already in the swamp. Yes anyone can wave their arms and say, “If there were no swamp, we would not be drowning!”

    There is a story told about the man drowning, and a person on shore yells, “Cup your hands. Cup your hands!” Another person throws him a lifeline, then adminishes him for getting in over his head, and then teaches him to swim. Who is the better friend! Who discharges the duty to protect? What is our net present equivalent of a lifeline rather than superiority and hands folded against the chest?

    They may wish to begin with level playing field and refuse to play until someone (else) cleans up the old messes, but guess what–it is their job to wade in and do some kind of first steps.

  • Grayce

    Unless you consider the Responsible Corporate  Officer Doctrine when there is a public danger.

  • Anonymous

    Could it not be said those that ran up an unsustainable debt are just as much “domestic terrorists”?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    My response is to the rediculous notion that members of congress be charged with treason for their lack of support of raising the Debt Ceiling on the President’s terms..  One side wants to call this trying to run the economy over a cliff..  I thing that it can be just as well argued that the economy is already headed towards that cliff and unless major reform occures then there exists a real probability that we will go over that cliff with no ability to change our course as we did not act while there was still time.. 

    I agree with your notion that there is much work to be done but not your anology of the drownding man…  If anything it is the Democratic side of congress that is sitting with their arms folded across their chest as their proposals have consistently been there is nothing wrong here the right is making much to do about nothing…  Wrong!, there is much to be fixed in DC.

    Would it have been good for the debt ceiling to have not been raised? IMO no, that is not a long term solution, would it serve us well for the system to be shocked into finally having to address problems honestly with the American people, yes, it is way over due. 

    Time will tell if the left and right will both take more realistic positions on their stances moving forward, again IMO neither side has a plan that will move this country forward but for me the right is doing a better job of bringing to the public’s attention the severity of the issues we face!  For this we have people like Bison1 calling for their imprisonment…  that is BS.. 

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