And Dems never try to scare white people…or maybe they just try to scare non-whites? You know, I get sick of this hypocritical stuff…

Oh brother.

At least Barry’s got a plan for this week :
The Obama’s Asian Vacation !

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/10/30/after_election_obama_to_flee_us.html

Well, much Republican rhetoric since the Civil Rights Bill passed has involved class warfare and race relations to some extent. The examples are legion. That doesn’t detract from the work Maddow and her staff did here, but it’s worth saying that this isn’t anything new – this election cycle or any other.

Hell, they gleefully do it to each other – like the robo calls about McCain.

What a typically weak segment. Few people will see, and no one really cares about the ads from these PACs anyway. Funny thing is, there was nothing in the “worst” pieces that Maddow cherry picked out that was not true.

She’s right about one thing, people ARE voting against the Obama administration today. Against 1-1/2 years wasted on a 2700 page health care fiasco passed with bribes and bought votes, against failed stimulus, against cap and trade, against union payoffs from stimulus funds, against lawsuits against states, etc.

At least at the end Maddow admitted that the health care bill and the last stimulus were terrible pieces of crap. Kudos to her for that.

There is a great deal of truth in what Ms. Maddow has said. The institutionalized Republican party has long existed on a diet rich in fear. From the 20′s through the 80′s, “Commanists” and the fear of them was a Republican staple, with a bit of variety beyond Russian Commanists, embracing Commanists in American labor, particularly the Wobblies, in American gouvernment by way of McCarthy, in the civil rights movement led by the Commanist Martin Luther King. In the years following the McCarthy disgrace and downfall the Republicans turned to Black boys going to school with our White girls and today the Republicans are embracing fear of men in turbans. Somehow, we overlook the Chinese Commanists, I presume because of all the money they contribute to the Rove and Gillespie C of C drive to suppress voting. But fear and Republicanism are truly joined at the hip.

The Real Royal King said:
There is a great deal of truth in what Ms. Maddow has said. The institutionalized Republican party has long existed on a diet rich in fear

Dude, do you think everyone but you is stupid or something? The Democrats ENTIRE PLATFORM is based on fear mongering! From man made global warming, trans fats, scary white people to evil Republicans. Hell, most of it is based on scaring minorities using racial scare tactics!

The Real Royal King said:
There is no truth in what Ms. Maddow has said. Today the Republicans are embracing fear of men in turbans who train others how to hide bombs in their underwear or shoes, in attempts to blow up airplanes and kill thousands, or plant them in printer cartridges to kill even more. Race baiting and Liberalism are truly joined at the hip.

I agree with you.

Of course, we should be concerned about global warming and transfats. Those are issues.

Teb said:
I agree with you.

I suspect you would find far more agreement with the likes of Kumquat, Nutso and Tumbleweed.

Ugh, nothing is more annoying than white people making a “scared white people” argument. Please shut up, Rachel.

The Real Royal King said:
I suspect you would find far more agreement with the likes of Kumquat, Nutso and Tumbleweed.

Are those nicknames for Obama, Reid, and Pelosi? Like you, I don’t agree with those three on much of anything.

Teb said:
Are those nicknames for Obama, Reid, and Pelosi? Like you, I don’t agree with those three on much of anything.

No, they are nicknames for Larry, Curly and Moe.

Teb said:
What a typically weak segment. Few people will see, and no one really cares about the ads from these PACs anyway. Funny thing is, there was nothing in the “worst” pieces that Maddow cherry picked out that was not true.

She’s right about one thing, people ARE voting against the Obama administration today. Against 1-1/2 years wasted on a 2700 page health care fiasco passed with bribes and bought votes, against failed stimulus, against cap and trade, against union payoffs from stimulus funds, against lawsuits against states, etc.

At least at the end Maddow admitted that the health care bill and the last stimulus were terrible pieces of crap. Kudos to her for that.

I don’t think Ms. Maddow “admitted” that.

Secondly, if you are not concerned with Chinese corporate money and possible terrorist funds being collected by Messrs. Rove and Gillespie, laundered through the C of C and be funneled into various voter misinformation and suppression efforts, then you care little for our democracy.

<blockquote The Real Royal King said:

Secondly, if you are not concerned with Chinese corporate money and possible terrorist funds being collected by Messrs. Rove and Gillespie, laundered through the C of C and be funneled into various voter misinformation and suppression efforts, then you care little for our democracy.

Jeez, talk about a scared White person. Ed Gillespie and the evil ChiComs are out to subvert our democracy, that’s one of the most paranoid conspiracies I’ve ever read!

Dronetek said:
Dude, do you think everyone but you is stupid or something? The Democrats ENTIRE PLATFORM is based on fear mongering! From man made global warming, trans fats, scary white people to evil Republicans. Hell, most of it is based on scaring minorities using racial scare tactics!

Don’t confuse the queen of libtardia with facts. Dums have kept power by the use of fear, Alinsky would be proud. It enjoys spouting drivel then runs when proved wrong.

The Real Royal King said:
and today the Republicans are embracing fear of men in turbans. Somehow, we overlook the Chinese Commanists, I presume because of all the money they contribute to the Rove and Gillespie C of C drive to suppress voting. .

Good example above. Didn’t know Juan was a Republican.

Some_Dude said:
Well, much Republican rhetoric since the Civil Rights Bill passed has involved class warfare and race relations to some extent. The examples are legion.

Who passed the Civil Rights Bill, Einstein? Here’s a hint, it wasn’t democrats.

There is a lot of “scare the white people” campaigning, but that’s not why people really need to vote. Fact is, most registered voters want to keep the Dems in power.

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/11/share-this-video.html

Share that video with unenthusiastic voters or watch an enthusiastic minority send this country backward toward the failed policies of the past.

timzank said:
Who passed the Civil Rights Bill, Einstein? Here’s a hint, it wasn’t democrats.

And, for all of these years, I thought Lyndon Johnson was a Democrat. Yes, I know he merely signed the bill, after shepherding through Congress. Twisting arms.

TonyClifton said:
<blockquote The Real Royal King said:

Secondly, if you are not concerned with Chinese corporate money and possible terrorist funds being collected by Messrs. Rove and Gillespie, laundered through the C of C and be funneled into various voter misinformation and suppression efforts, then you care little for our democracy.

Jeez, talk about a scared White person. Ed Gillespie and the evil ChiComs are out to subvert our democracy, that’s one of the most paranoid conspiracies I’ve ever read!

Don’t forget Rove. I’m not sure Gillespie has enough sense to deposit a check.

GlennBeckReview said:
Fact is, most registered voters want to keep the Dems in power.

Really? Split evenly, in second link. Where do you come up with this nonsense?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/31/cnn-poll-majority-believes-gop-will-win-back-congress/

“Thirty-four percent of those questioned say the country will be better off if the Republicans win back Congress, with 28 percent saying the country will be worse off and 36 percent saying it won’t make a difference.”

http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/americans-evenly-split-on-which-party-should-control-congress-p/19690612/

So Republicans are supposed to be scaring white people. Hmmmmm

So what is it when Democrats say that Republicans want to take Grandma’s social security and make her eat dog food. Oh I know, it’s “Reasoned and Rational”! *Stretch, cough, hairball*

Keep leaning forward and remember NOT to put your hands out, some of you need some sense knocked back into you. The pavement will be happy to oblige.

The Real Royal King said:
And, for all of these years, I thought Lyndon Johnson was a Democrat. Yes, I know he merely signed the bill, after shepherding through Congress. Twisting arms.

He signed it, your democrats opposed it, and the republicans voted for it and got it passed. Suffice to say you are obfuscating again. If not for Republicans the civil rights bill would not have passed.

The Real Royal King said:
And, for all of these years, I thought Lyndon Johnson was a Democrat. Yes, I know he merely signed the bill, after shepherding through Congress. Twisting arms.

And of course it is silly to talk Dem or Repub on civil rights matters. Back in the day there were liberal, moderate and conservatives on both sides. The conservatives, as they most always do, opposed change, and the liberals, as they mostly do, supported change.

The xenophobic and racist act of putting Japanese Americans in camps was carried out by Republican FDR. Right, King?

timzank said:
He signed it, your democrats opposed it, and the republicans voted for it and got it passed. Suffice to say you are obfuscating again. If not for Republicans the civil rights bill would not have passed.

Yes, those would be the same racist Democrats who fled to the open arms of the waiting Republicans and flipped the South for a generation. Please spare us all this very tired argument. Racism has found a happy home in the Republican party. Stop denying the obvious with, again, this very tired and trite ahistorical argument.

Yes Rachel, we know, if you vote Dem, you are voting with your heart and convictions for change and if you vote Repub, you are a scared white racsit having a temper tantrum. Blah, blah, blah. Yawn!

Was locking up American citizens because of their race a racist act?

Seeing November From My Window said:
Yes Rachel, we know, if you vote Dem, you are voting with your heart and convictions for change and if you vote Repub, you are a scared white racsit having a temper tantrum. Blah, blah, blah. Yawn!

I’d say she got it just about right, Michelle-in-Utah. The fact that the statement bores you merely underscores its authenticity.

Do you know if the parents of the boys on your son’s “Spanish” soccer team will be voting today, or have you been able to suppress that vote?

Drontek says:

Dude, do you think everyone but you is stupid or something?

Yes, Keith, er I mean King does.

The King named his cat after FDR.

You think things are bad now. Just wait until Election 2012 rolls around and Obama and his camp begin the ugly race baiting tactics they used so effectively in 2008. 2012 is going to be much uglier than people think. Nearly half of Dems now feel that Obama deserves a challenge within his OWN PARTY. And this is from the Huffington Post of all places –

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/30/obama-primary-challenge_n_776443.html

Of course, if that happens it will be even worse. Especially if it is Hillary. The media and scum at MSNBC will tear her apart even worse than they did 2 years ago. Then, it will be “racist scared white Democrats” right? The deceitful “I’m a moderate, a uniter” campaigning, the bribes and buyoffs to pass garbage that no one wanted, the failed stimulus, putrid cap and trade, the union payoffs from stimulus funds, the lawsuits against states, half a term wasted on 2700 pages of crap that no one read, none of that has anything to do with it, it’s all just RACISM!

How terribly pathetic and pitiful liberals are. Nothing to stand on, so let’s just cry RACISM!

Inconvenient fact for Maddow and all those who jump on that bandwagon now that Obama and his agenda have been exposed for what they are:

IT WAS THE WHITE VOTE THAT PUT OBAMA IN OFFICE IN THE FIRST PLACE. The left can fall down and flop around like a fish and scream racism all they want. Wityhout the vote of all those “scared white people” and those “racists” who are now voting against what he brought, he wouldn’t have come even close to the office.

To paraphrase another Democratic president, it ain’t the color of his skin – “It’s the agenda, stupid.”

The racist argument is stupid and shallow.

Hmmmm. Didn’t see any coverage ot this on the alphabet networks (or Mediaite)…. BIG f-bomb warning….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPIP-i3sdVk&feature=player_embedded

The Real Royal King said:
Yes, those would be the same racist Democrats who fled to the open arms of the waiting Republicans and flipped the South for a generation. Please spare us all this very tired argument. Racism has found a happy home in the Republican party. Stop denying the obvious with, again, this very tired and trite ahistorical argument.

There it is ladies and gentlemen, the most inane post of the day. And so early, too. You must be so proud queen of libtardia. We all knew the racism card would be played over and over when the truth is exactly the opposite. You know what’s tired? the race card, try something else Peter.

Teb says:

You think things are bad now. Just wait until Election 2012 rolls around and Obama and his camp begin the ugly race baiting tactics they used so effectively in 2008.

I think it’s lost its sting. It’s like the little boy who cried wolf (and I’m referring to an actual little boy here. I clarify this because last time I used that phrase, I was called racist for using the word boy). They’ve cried wolf so often where it doesn’t exist that people are tuning them out. And it doesn’t help them that they are on record saying their strategy is to call people racist if they happen to disagree with you. I say go for it!

Seeing November From My Window said:
Teb says:

You think things are bad now. Just wait until Election 2012 rolls around and Obama and his camp begin the ugly race baiting tactics they used so effectively in 2008.

I think it’s lost its sting. It’s like the little boy who cried wolf (and I’m referring to an actual little boy here. I clarify this because last time I used that phrase, I was called racist for using the word boy). They’ve cried wolf so often where it doesn’t exist that people are tuning them out. And it doesn’t help them that they are on record saying their strategy is to call people racist if they happen to disagree with you. I say go for it!

That is very wise, Michelle-in-Utah. I hope all radical rightists heed your message.

How about the very far out, extreme, intolerant, hateful, rabid leftists such as yourself, King?

So is MSNBC trying to scare the people of color.

The Real Royal King said:
I’d agree that she got it all wrong, Michelle-in-Utah. The fact that the statement bores you merely underscores Maddow’s lame attempts at race baiting. Do you know if the parents of the boys on your son’s Spanish soccer team will be voting today, has the race baiting the Dems use worked on them?

Are you driving one of the buses stocked with cigarettes and booze today, to buy votes at the local homeless shelters? Or, perhaps you will be dropping off falsified Democrat absentee ballots, as has already happened in Pennsylvania?

The King is reminding all blacks not to write their race on their ballots this time, so the poll workers won’t know which ones to throw away.

The Real Royal King said:
I’d agree that she got it all wrong, Michelle-in-Utah. The fact that the statement bores you merely underscores Maddow’s lame attempts at race baiting. Do you know if the parents of the boys on your son’s Spanish soccer team will be voting today, has the race baiting the Dems use worked on them?

Now you are beginning to make sense.

Actually king, at a game the other day, one of the mother’s passed out a list of all the tax hikes about to take place in January, so it would appear that the race-baiting of the Dem’s isn’t working at all!!!!

The Real Royal King said:
Who passed the Civil Rights Bill, Einstein? Here’s a hint, it wasn’t democrats.

And, for all of these years, I thought Lyndon Johnson was a Democrat. Yes, I know he merely signed the bill, after shepherding through Congress. Twisting arms.

Actually, it was the Republican Congress that passed it. Johnson was notoriously bigoted and had to be convinced that politically, he couldn’t oppose it.

Hey Rach,

It’s not just a repudiation of Obama and his failed coup; we’re changing the whole damn zeitgeist!

The whole cultural paralysis of progressive dogma is on the way out!

Ah oh king, more proof the race-baiting ISN’T working”

In 2007, 50 percent of Latinos surveyed told the Pew Hispanic Center that the growing number of illegal immigrants was a positive force for the existing Latino population. In a Pew survey released Thursday, that number had plummeted to 29 percent.

That’s gotta hurt!

GlennBeckReview said:
“Fact is, most registered voters want to keep the Dems in power.”

BirdBrainPenguin69 says:
“Really? Split evenly, in second link. Where do you come up with this nonsense?”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/05/poll-watch-difference-between-likely-voters-and-registered-voters-key/

You have to use the correct poll there Bird Brain. (Don’t like that moniker; change your sock-puppet name.)

Snake60 might be more appropriate for you, no?

“I’ll have those ******* voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” — Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One. Ronald Kessler’s “Inside The White House”

Sidhekitten says:
“So Republicans are supposed to be scaring white people. Hmmmmm
So what is it when Democrats say that Republicans want to take Grandma’s social security and make her eat dog food.”

The truth.

The Real Royal King said:
There is a great deal of truth in what Ms. Maddow has said. The institutionalized Republican party has long existed on a diet rich in fear. From the 20’s through the 80’s, “Commanists” and the fear of them was a Republican staple, with a bit of variety beyond Russian Commanists, embracing Commanists in American labor, particularly the Wobblies, in American gouvernment by way of McCarthy, in the civil rights movement led by the Commanist Martin Luther King. In the years following the McCarthy disgrace and downfall the Republicans turned to Black boys going to school with our White girls and today the Republicans are embracing fear of men in turbans. Somehow, we overlook the Chinese Commanists, I presume because of all the money they contribute to the Rove and Gillespie C of C drive to suppress voting. But fear and Republicanism are truly joined at the hip.

You are so full of yourself. Remember, it is your Messiah Barack Hussein Obama, is the one who considers other Americans enemies while he panders to America’s real enemies. You put the word “Commanist” in quotes because it is a made up word by you. Why are you still playing the littles girl’s gameof ‘pretend’?

NORBIT said:
Hey Rach, It’s not just a repudiation of Obama and his failed coup; we’re changing the whole damn zeitgeist! The whole cultural paralysis of progressive dogma is on the way out!

Yes, take out the trash, Norbit, I’m with you on that. Down with progressive dogma.

The progressive Neanderthals, along with their racial obsessions and blind adherence to political correctness, will be flushed down the toilet of dysfunctional belief systems.

Today’s only Day 1 for the Freedom Train to start rolling!

So many leftwingers have shunned/ ignored all the polls leading up to today. They said “The only poll that matters will be Nov. 2nd”. So…. does that mean they will absorb this historic rebuke of lefty policy and moderate as the electorate has demanded? Sure doesn’t look that way so far.

I see our Great and Wonderful Prez calling the 70% of Americans who support AZ’s anti-ILLEGAL-immigrant law “ENEMIES”…. and the LSM ignoring it like it never happened.

I see Michael Moore calling everyone who opposes Obowma’s policies “RACIST” to a standing leftwinger ovation….

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/11/1/915888/-Its-the-black-man-in-the-White-House,-stupid

It’s pretty obvious (and no great surprise) that the leftwingers…. including (especially) the Prez….. are going to make their usual excuses…. “The People are mad/ confused/ ignorant/ hateful. We didn’t explain our ideas so that the commoners could understand…. after all… it’s complicated.”

And of course…. my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE….. “We weren’t liberal enough”.

LMFAO! That’s funny rite dare….. I don’t care who ya’ are!
_____________________

Remember these excuses por favor….. cuz the day is coming that will lay them to waste. The mutiny will be brutal but I am confident in the leftwingers ability to morph their ‘blame hate’ message to include (D)’s. Just look at Joe Lieberman, Evan Bayh, Hillary Clinton, Juan Williams. That’s just the short list of good (D)’s who found out what happens when you show a little diversity in THE TRUE PARTY OF HATE.

Denial and delusion are warm fuzzy comfort food in times like these. I hope the far left continues to partake for the next two years as enthusiastically as they have for the last two. They have done a wonderful job of hijacking the once great (D) party and driving it straight into the ground.

Nice work! God Bless America!

GlennBeckReview said:
Sidhekitten says:“So Republicans are supposed to be scaring white people. HmmmmmSo what is it when Democrats say that Republicans want to take Grandma’s social security and make her eat dog food.” The truth.

Wow dude. I didn’t think it was possible but CONGRATULATIONS GBR! You just topped yourself! You suck EVEN WORSE than I thought you did! Good Job!

You are no different from Alan Grayson yet you try to pass yourself off as some balanced arbiter of truth. What a effing joke!

Keep drinking that Olbermann kool-aid and just being yourself…. you are like those crazy Bible-thumpers who make people NOT wanna go to church… you are one of the best players on my team.

Keep up the good work!!

GlennBeckReview said:
GlennBeckReview said:“Fact is, most registered voters want to keep the Dems in power.” http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/05/poll-watch-difference-between-likely-voters-and-registered-voters-key/ You have to use the correct poll there Bird Brain. (Don’t like that moniker; change your sock-puppet name.) Snake60 might be more appropriate for you, no?

What are you 12? Birdbrain? OK glennbeckgivesmeachubby, what is the date of the link you cited? What is the date of mine? Why don’t you just go back to 2008 to get the answers you want. You said registered voters. Good God there can’t be people this stupid, but you prove it everyday.

Tommy, Tommy, Tommy. You & Rach are living in an alternate universe. I can see why you’re angry, I mean, liberalism is being rejected by monumental proportions. All you have left is the race card. Blah, blah, blah. You hung your hat & credibility on the most divisive and racially provocative president in recent history. Obama, like you & Rach, is a serial race baiter. It’s the last card of a losing hand. The hatred towards white people who aren’t extremist liberals that has been shown by this administration and his sycophants in the media is the reason your side is going to get their ass handed to them today. The average guy out there is pretty tired of getting labeled a “racist” or an “angry white person” by a bunch of left-wing elitist wingnuts. The rhetoric of people like you is as much to blame for the results of today as the absurd policies put forth from this admin. I hope you and the other left-wing crazies continue to call everyone who disagrees with you “racists”, “angry white people” or whatever insane pejorative you dream up. It will just keep sending more & more people over to my side.

NORBIT said:
The progressive Neanderthals, along with their racial obsessions and blind adherence to political correctness, will be flushed down the toilet of dysfunctional belief systems. Today’s only Day 1 for the Freedom Train to start rolling!

Yes, the freedom to be pawns of big corporations and the world-wide industrial waste project.

Rachel tries so hard to get someone to listen to her….BUT…her message falls on deaf ears.

People hate something alright. Liberal Policies. As soon as they get a good taste, like clockwork, they get them the hell out of there.

When all else fails, pull out that race card. Of course, it’s been pulled out so often it’s getting paper thin. Better get a new one.

VRWC Destruction Machine said:
It looks like Maddow is still looking for relevence. Her only accomplishment is beating out her colleague Keith Olbermann by a few ratings points and giving us a good impression of a hermaprodite. Other than than, no one hangs to a word she says. When other pundits talk about other pundits, she is never in the mix. Instead we hear about Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Bob Shieffer and Katie Couric. Rachel who?

She’s ridiculous. One of her talking-points touting Obamacare is that 95% of Americans will have health insurance. Hmmmm.

I guess somebody should tell her that 90% already HAVE health insurance and that much of that extra 5% that she’s so happy about adding are being forced to buy it against their will. Maybe it will sink in when the HCBill is ruled unconstitutional for that very reason.

Of course, SOMEBODY (tommy xtopher) should ask if the Prez is still adamant that the mandate is NOT A TAX. It would save a lot of legal wrangling. They could just cut to the chase and toss it out immediately. After all, if it’s NOT A TAX…. as Obeyme so clearly stated here….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UcxU8PtzRs

then it’s unconstitutional. Just ask the Obama Administration legal team.

Rachel Maddow is a scared white person. Be afraid, Rachel. Be very afraid. Happy Election Day!

valkyrie101 said:
Yes, the freedom to be pawns of big corporations and the world-wide industrial waste project.

Shake that leash off, valky! Don’t let those big corporations walk you around like a mutt! It will do wonders for your carbon footprint to boycott them all. Be free!

NORBIT says:
“The progressive Neanderthals,”

More deep confusion expressed by the reactionaries here: progressives are elitists, progressives are “Neanterthals.” It’s pretty safe to argue that the reactionaries really don’t know what is really the case.

Vote the way these 19th Century tools of the large corporations want, and we’ll see just how much this progressive blip on the political radar of the last 21 months really meant.

Stop the backlash: http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/11/share-this-video.html

See how RepubliCorp is organized, the unified theory of reactionary backlash:
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/10/becks-fake-populism-exposed-he-sides.html

GlennBeckReview said:
NORBIT says:“The progressive Neanderthals,” More deep confusion expressed by the reactionaries here: progressives are elitists, progressives are “Neanterthals.” It’s pretty safe to argue that the reactionaries really don’t know what is really the case. Vote the way these 19th Century tools of the large corporations want, and we’ll see just how much this progressive blip on the political radar of the last 21 months really meant. Stop the backlash: http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/11/share-this-video.html See how RepubliCorp is organized, the unified theory of reactionary backlash:http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/10/becks-fake-populism-exposed-he-sides.html

Anyone fixated on externally-derived group identity is on a Neanderthal level of thinking. The fact they are progressive Democrats is cause for the adjective!

…and they’ll be going down to defeat in record numbers today!!!!

valkyrie101 said:
Yes, the freedom to be pawns of big corporations and the world-wide industrial waste project.

Both parties are pawns of big corporations. The difference is that Republicans believe in citizens keeping as much of their hard earned money as possible. Liberals believe in the government keeping as much as possible for their world-wide social engineering projects.

Pablo said:
Shake that leash off, valky! Don’t let those big corporations walk you around like a mutt! It will do wonders for your carbon footprint to boycott them all. Be free!

Ya see Pablo, its like the Matrix, you are walking around in that fantasy world and a few of us are trying to save the world from the corporate machines. Or maybe you like the War of the Worlds metaphor, I’m like Tom Cruz trying to fight the machines that arose from the dirt, you’re like one of those people that gets their blood sucked before being discarded. :-)

HAHA, it would appear that Rachel got her talking points from the daily kos:

Daily Kos: Blame Dem Losses on Racism

Liberals don’t want to believe that anyone would oppose the Obama agenda out of a principled stand against massive government spending and massive intervention in the free enterprise system. It’s easier (and dirtier) to blame it all on racism. The leftist blog Daily Kos is keeping up that smear: “It’s the black man in the White House, stupid.” Michael Moore truly thrilled the blogger called “blackwaterdog” by claiming “Two years of a black man who secretly holds socialist beliefs being the boss of them is more than they can stomach. They’ve been sick to death since the night of 11/04/08 and they are ready to purge.”

MSNBC should be so proud that this blogger frames this smear with a Rachel Maddow segment celebrating all the “achievements” of Democrat-dominated Washington in the last two years. (The lowlight is Maddow celebrating that the “bureaucracy” of private student loans has been removed and it’s all wonderfully streamlined and nationalized now. Or Maddow celebrating how health care “reform” is the secret to reducing the horrendous national debt. Or…) Then came the Kosmonaut song sheet:

No one from the MSM will ever dare to say it, even if they think so, otherwise they’ll never work in this town again. No one else in Washington is going to touch it with a mile long stick. But Michael Moore said it, and did it brilliantly, so i’m grateful.

I don’t blame anyone who is unemployed or lost their home, and they really not in the mood to vote Democrats tomorrow. I can’t judge anyone who can hardly bring themselves to get out of bed in the morning, and have very little desire to get out of bed tomorrow of all days, and go vote Democrats.

But this “Republican wave” – how scary, brrrrrr – is not about that. It’s not about the “deficit”, it’s not about “government spending” – they couldn’t care less about all this when they were in power. It’s not about health care reform or Wall Street reform either. This is about the black man in the White House.

Hitler signs, Stalin signs – always amuses me how those ignorants can’t tell the difference – Fox News lies, smears and nastiness, racists emails, “Magic Negro”, all that started a long time before President Obama made even one move. Way before health care reform, and even before the stimulus – which not even one economist will argue that it didn’t prevent second depression and if anything was too small – it was all a growing reaction to the election of the first black president.

And it’s not just the average ignorant teabagger. Their people in Washington are all students of John “that one” McCain. Bone-Head and the rest of the gang just can’t stand the sight of a black man calling the shots in this country. Their complete and shameless disrespect for the president of the United States, goes far beyond their regular treatment of a blue president.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2010/11/02/daily-kos-blame-dem-losses-racism#ixzz148dH8TWK

GlennBeckReview said:
Vote the way these 19th Century tools of the large corporations want, and we’ll see just how much this progressive blip on the political radar of the last 21 months really meant.
Stop the backlash: http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/11/share-this-video.html
See how RepubliCorp is organized, the unified theory of reactionary backlash:
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/10/becks-fake-populism-exposed-he-sides.html

Both parties are tools of large corporations. RepubliCorp is a tool of George Soros, the scum sucking, America hating bastard. Why would you link to that piece of garbage propoganda? You are a brain stem.

Let’s do away with all those corporations. We’ll worry about where people will be employed later.

writer said:
Let’s do away with all those corporations. We’ll worry about where people will be employed later.

That decision was already made by the corporations who now manufacture outside of the U.S. in countries that have fewer regulations and much lower wages.

GlennBeckReview said:
Sidhekitten says:
“So Republicans are supposed to be scaring white people. Hmmmmm
So what is it when Democrats say that Republicans want to take Grandma’s social security and make her eat dog food.”

The truth.

And yet, another person who cannot pull back and think objectively, it’s like watching a Gazelle bolt when the Cat closes in for the kill. Puurrrrr

Seriously, if the Republicans had truly wanted to put Grandma on the Alpo diet, they would already tried that gambit after 1994. Perhaps, unlike you, I have faith in our society and that our society would not let that happen. I say “perhaps” because I do not know your mind.

I caution both sides to start looking at things from an analyst point of view and not fall for the games. It only gets bumpier from here on out. If the Democrats do lose as bad as it looks like they will, the rhetoric will be ramped up by the media and those Democrats left on the field to such an extent that every Republican will be branded as a child Lucifer or any other demon of your choice. They will be call racist, homophobes, destroyers and all around bad guys.

I challenge to left learners not fall for the easy traps and I call for the right learners to call “bullshit” when their guys try to weasel out. This is not a game anymore, and if you do not want to become “game” keep a level head.

FearMonger said:
Wow dude. I didn’t think it was possible but CONGRATULATIONS GBR! You just topped yourself! You suck EVEN WORSE than I thought you did! Good Job!

You are no different from Alan Grayson yet you try to pass yourself off as some balanced arbiter of truth. What a effing joke!

Keep drinking that Olbermann kool-aid and just being yourself…. you are like those crazy Bible-thumpers who make people NOT wanna go to church… you are one of the best players on my team.

Keep up the good work!!

Thanks FearMonger, glad to have given you a target. Was that petty of me, probably…..

I never said I was perrrfect.

The Real Royal King said:
Of course, we should be concerned about global warming and transfats. Those are issues.

Do you really believe even half of what you write??

So valk, is that why Clinton pushed NAFTA? Is that why Obama is limiting trade with China?

It must frost Maddow’s little nuggets to know that not a thing she says will make a BIT of difference. To that I say, ‘GOOD!’

The Real Royal King said:
That is very wise, Michelle-in-Utah. I hope all radical rightists heed your message.

People are also sick to death of the politcally correct police. I, for one, am saying exactly what I believe and to hell with political correctness.

Oooooooh, and the Black voice over is suppose to make us think this is not racist.

BS plays, truth pays the price. The people who believe this slanderous stuff deserve what they get today: a Pyrrhic victory today.

See how RepubliCorp is organized, the unified theory of reactionary backlash:

Yeah, they’re right below MoveOn.org on the Soros empire flowchart. You’re truly a dumbshit, GBR.

Nadine Otego said:
Oooooooh, and the Black voice over is suppose to make us think this is not racist.

Black voice over? That sounds very racist to me. You should be ashamed.

Tonight, Rachel will be reading excerpts from Uncle Tom’s Cabin, and showing film clips from Roots.

It’s kind of great that Mediaite, Maddow, Tommy Christopher, Rachel Sklar, Dan Abrams, Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, NPR, PBS, the entire pro Oblah-Blah press, the New York Times, Paul Krugman, Frank Rich, the New Yorker… They all made not a BIT of difference because the people of the United States of America found Oblah-Blah’s message loathsome. :)

All baggers care about is the the Black man be taken out of power, so they can get “their” country back. Vote Backward – Vote Teabaggers. Facts, schmacks, we gives a darn about facts?!?!?!?!?

justanotherconservative said:
People are also sick to death of the politcally correct police. I, for one, am saying exactly what I believe and to hell with political correctness.

Amen! It’s also time to start farting and picking our noses in public places. Down with manners!

What happened King? You wreck the van already? That’s okay, old timer. When you reach your seventies, those reaction times just aren’t what they used to be.

RM, the only “scared white people” I see are on MSNBC!

Goodbye, you pusillanimous racist!

Nadine Otego said:
All baggers care about is the the Black man be taken out of power, so they can get “their” country back. Vote Backward – Vote Teabaggers. Facts, schmacks, we gives a darn about facts?!?!?!?!?

Very astute for brain stem. You are dangerously close to taking the queen’s title of most inane post of the day.

I don’t think you need to be a psychology major to see the obvious psychological projection here. Rachel Maddow clearly feels guilty about her own racial prejudices and bigotry and projects it onto the people she wants to attack. She’s been blabbing about this Southern Strategy for several weeks now and has painted every political strategy the Tea Party and Republicans execute as racist.

It’s really quite pathetic. Rachel Maddow really needs to come to terms with her racist tendencies; either embrace or purge them because this current approach of denial and projection is very self-destructive.

And by the way, the lede pic with Maddow sportin’ the crazy eyes if friggin’ great!

valkyrie101 said:
Ya see Pablo, its like the Matrix, you are walking around in that fantasy world and a few of us are trying to save the world from the corporate machines.

Just head for the woods, valky. You can get off the corporate grid! Starve the evil corporations and save the planet! It’s the only way. Start with your ISP. Dirty corporation!

FearMonger said:
Hmmmm. Didn’t see any coverage ot this on the alphabet networks (or Mediaite)…. BIG f-bomb warning….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPIP-i3sdVk&feature=player_embedded

Great clip :-)

But it is an isolated incident.

Tony Westover said:
Great clip :-)

But it shows “scared black people.”

Rachel kicked conservative ass all over the playground… again! You righties can claim hypocrisy all you want but sane people know you are the biggest hypocrites in the country, by far. Conservative ideology is a political winner most of time, and a policy failure all of the time. Enjoy your fleeting victories, either you’ll see your ideology fade into historic obscurity, or watch in horror as your heroes systematically dismantle the American Dream. Either way, this is your high water mark right here. Enjoy it while you can, selfish whining babies.

notsofast said:
pusillanimous

Stop stealing other people’s vocabulary. LOL

Paul Westlake said:
Rachel kicked conservative ass all over the playground… again! You righties can claim hypocrisy all you want but sane people know you are the biggest hypocrites in the country, by far. Conservative ideology is a political winner most of time, and a policy failure all of the time. Enjoy your fleeting victories, either you’ll see your ideology fade into historic obscurity, or watch in horror as your heroes systematically dismantle the American Dream. Either way, this is your high water mark right here. Enjoy it while you can, selfish whining babies.

Bitter much… :).

Tony Westover said:
I don’t think you need to be a psychology major to see the obvious psychological projection here.

True, but I’m somewhat surprised that you’re willing to talk so openly about your bigoted projections in a public forum like this. Kudos! ;-)

tatboy said:
Bitter much… :).

Tatters, you wish. I’m smiling today. All day. Today is the beginning of the end of the Tea Party, no matter what happens at the polls. So today is a good day. ;-)

Enjoy it while you can, selfish whining babies.

Dude, it’s your side that’s whining! Projecting much!

Penguin60 said:
Very astute for brain stem. You are dangerously close to taking the queen’s title of most inane post of the day.

Yeah, cause you’re always a wealth of edification. LOL

Go play with your Saul Alinsky chess set. ;-)

Seeing November From My Window said:
Enjoy it while you can, selfish whining babies.

Dude, it’s your side that’s whining! Projecting much!

Dude, the Tea Party is one giant group cry! ROFL!

Yes, Rachel, someone in RUNNING SCARED today, but it isn’t Republicans.

So even after tonight’s bloodbath, Paul is going to count it as a win. Great outlook.

FearMonger said:
Hmmmm. Didn’t see any coverage ot this on the alphabet networks (or Mediaite)…. BIG f-bomb warning….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPIP-i3sdVk&feature=player_embedded

Wow… really great clip. Won’t see that get covered. Shocking!

Paul Westlake said:
Yeah, cause you’re always a wealth of edification. LOL

Go play with your Saul Alinsky chess set. ;-)

You know they can treat rabies now… right?

Tony Westover said:
Great clip :-) But it is an isolated incident.

but but but…. NOT an ‘isolated’ attitude. This article, it’s author and the comments from the leftwingers speak volumes.

writer said:
So valk, is that why Clinton pushed NAFTA? Is that why Obama is limiting trade with China?

Whether it should, or how, the government must intervene to clean up corporate greed, is the secondary issue.

Cancon2 said:
People hate something alright. Liberal Policies. As soon as they get a good taste, like clockwork, they get them the hell out of there.

You’re totally right! Average Americans reject Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, 40-hour work weeks and civil rights because they can see through the commie-pinko agenda of equality and taking care of people with safety net programs. Can’t wait to see what people say if/when Rand Paul proposes bills to end all of them because people just hate these policies so much!

felixw said:
Yes, Rachel, someone in RUNNING SCARED today, but it isn’t Republicans.

Felix, this is no lose for dems. Giving up both houses will increase Obama’s chances in 2012. And the pressure will be on the repubs: produce or face ouster in two years. And with all the hoopla about republican landslide today, if that does not pan out, oops.

Paul says:

Dude, the Tea Party is one giant group cry! ROFL!

WOW, good one! NOT!

writer said:
So even after tonight’s bloodbath, Paul is going to count it as a win. Great outlook.

Yup. No big surprise. After all his yackity yackin’ about “November 2nd is the only poll that counts” he shows his true colors once again.

Paul Westlake said:
Enjoy your fleeting victories, either you’ll see your ideology fade into historic obscurity, or watch in horror as your heroes systematically dismantle the American Dream.

Wow. That’s rich coming from an avowed socialist.

As usual, Good Job Paul!

Racebaiting right up to the wire. Have a great day.

I’ll just knock you all out in one post…

writer said:
So even after tonight’s bloodbath, Paul is going to count it as a win. Great outlook.

Short-term gain over long-term outlook is a common mistake of conservatives in thrall of corporate power. ;-)

tatboy said:
You know they can treat rabies now… right?

Did you just find that out recently? LOL

Seeing November From My Window said:
Dude, the Tea Party is one giant group cry! ROFL!

WOW, good one! NOT!

Dud, the 80s called, they want their disco ball back.

FearMonger said:
Wow. That’s rich coming from an avowed socialist.

I’m not avowed socialist, I’m an avowed American pragmatist, fully in the spirit of Benjamin Franklin, who was the original champion of the “associations” that so many conservatives would later come to see as socialism. Capitalism is a system designed to spread the wealth. Really. That’s a fact. Socialism is a system designed to prevent wealth from getting too concentrated in the first place. In its purest form, it too closely resembles communism to be effective in a free-market economy. But in partnership with capitalism, it is the foundation of America’s greatest successes. Crack a history book sometime. ;-)

This is precisely why the Democrats will get hammered today. They smugly refuse to engage in debate or dialogue with opposing views, and try to pretend that they don’t need to defend their views because they are so much smarter than everyone else. Yet — and here is the irony — polls show the among people with college degrees, Republicans are leading Democrats by twenty percent. Yes that’s right: a TWENTY PERCENT lead by Republicans among those with college degrees. So what Rachel should really be worrying about is why intelligent people have given up on the Democrats. But don’t hold your breath…Hell will freeze over before Rachel Maddow takes the slightest notice of reality.

felixw said:
This is precisely why the Democrats will get hammered today. They smugly refuse to engage in debate or dialogue with opposing views, and try to pretend that they don’t need to defend their views because they are so much smarter than everyone else

Felix, you can kep pounding those sophist projections out all day long and it still won’t make them true. Rabid conservatives race-bait and fear-monger all day, every day. You got nothing, creampuff.

I didn’t know Rev. Wright was a conservative.

Paul Westlake said:
Tony Westover said:
I don’t think you need to be a psychology major to see the obvious psychological projection here.

True, but I’m somewhat surprised that you’re willing to talk so openly about your bigoted projections in a public forum like this. Kudos! ;-)

I’d suggest that you get at least an elementary grasp of Freudian psychological terminology before using it. Like I said, you don’t need to be a psychology major to pick up on Maddow’s psychological projections of her own racist tendencies here. It’s so blatant that it’s insulting to even call it a textbook example.

By the way, all you self-styled prophets of doom, we all have about a 50/50 chance of accurately predicting the outcome of the elections today. What happens if the bloodbath doesn’t manifest? How will you explain away your total confidence in an outcome that didn’t materialize? I don’t shy away from making predictions, but I’m not as cocksure as you guys are, that’s for sure. You may be right, but what happens if you’re wrong? Will you just disappear for a few days, let the stink blow over and hope everyone forgets your iron-clad predictions from the previous three months? Very amusing, fellas. Very amusing. LOL

It is scary white people like Maddow that scare me. Always bring in race as matter of fact when she is doing fantasy speaking.

Tony Westover said:
I’d suggest that you get at least an elementary grasp of Freudian psychological terminology before using it. Like I said, you don’t need to be a psychology major to pick up on Maddow’s psychological projections of her own racist tendencies here. It’s so blatant that it’s insulting to even call it a textbook example.

Tony, if you ever did study psychology in college, it certainly doesn’t show here.

Paul Westlake said:
Rachel kicked conservative ass all over the playground… again! You righties can claim hypocrisy all you want but sane people know you are the biggest hypocrites in the country, by far. Conservative ideology is a political winner most of time, and a policy failure all of the time. Enjoy your fleeting victories, either you’ll see your ideology fade into historic obscurity, or watch in horror as your heroes systematically dismantle the American Dream. Either way, this is your high water mark right here. Enjoy it while you can, selfish whining babies.

Rachel is a stupid, lying brain stem. If you follow her, well then…….

Paul Westlake said:
Tatters, you wish. I’m smiling today. All day. Today is the beginning of the end of the Tea Party, no matter what happens at the polls. So today is a good day. ;-)

Wishful thinking.

You know we can smell your fear, right?

PS – Yep, I did – Psych 101, Abnormal Psych, and Family Psych. Thanks for playing. :D

valkyrie101 said:
Whether it should, or how, the government must intervene to clean up corporate greed, is the secondary issue.

Voters are intervening today, to clean up government greed. Good for them!!!!!!!

Tony Westover said:
Wishful thinking.

You know we can smell your fear, right?

Very funny. The day I fear conservatives is the day true fascism has arrived in America – because then they’ll actually be shooting at me with real guns. Until then, you’re all just a bunch of lightweights as far as I’m concerned. ;-)

Teb said:
Rachel is a stupid, lying brain stem. If you follow her, well then…….

Ha! Rachel has lost more brain cells than you ever had.

Paul Westlake said:
Tony, if you ever did study psychology in college, it certainly doesn’t show here.

You don’t need to study psychology in college in order to pick up on Maddow’s obvious defense mechanism here — there’s the point. With some minimal light research, even a plebian like yourself could figure it out.

OK, chores to do. I’ll come back and smack you guys around some more a little later.

valkyrie101 said:
Giving up both houses will increase Obama’s chances in 2012.

That’s why he WANTS to lose them both today. Barack (I’m really a moderate….honest!!) Obama’s only chance in 2012 is for Sarah Palin to be the GOP nominee. She ain’t running, so Obama is finished, even with all of the sick, twisted race baiting he will be doing over the next 2 years. So long liberals, a win for normal Americans!

Tony Westover said:
You don’t need to study psychology in college in order to pick up on Maddow’s obvious defense mechanism here — there’s the point. With some minimal light research, even a plebian like yourself could figure it out.

Dude, you’re grasping at straws that don’t exist. You have zero understanding of either psychology or Maddow – although it’s possible you’re just a liar. Either way, you’re flat wrong, straight up. You can rephrase it all you like, it will never be the correct analysis. Ever.

OK, chores to do. I’ll come back and smack you guys around some more a little later.

Paul Westlake said:
OK, chores to do. I’ll come back and smack you guys around some more a little later.

You couldn’t smack your way out of a wet paper bag, liberal boy.

Paul Westlake said:
Tony Westover said:
Wishful thinking.

You know we can smell your fear, right?

Very funny. The day I fear conservatives is the day true fascism has arrived in America – because then they’ll actually be shooting at me with real guns. Until then, you’re all just a bunch of lightweights as far as I’m concerned. ;-)

Yikes! The stench of fear on you is really strong.

Paul Westlake said:
I’m not average American, I’m an avowed Socialist

Finally, this Westlake guy tells the truth.

Race and conservative ideology have always been intertwined. Going back to the earliest days of America conservatives have been on the wrong side of history defending history defending slavery, segregation and racial discrimination. The modern conservative movement and the conservative highjacking of the Republican Party began with the Barry Goldwater campaign of 1964. Goldwater believed that the 1964 Civil Rights Act was unconstitutional but that segregation was constitutional if practiced by private parties. Rand Paul today adopts the same extreme view. President Johnson pushed through the Civil Rights Act of 1964, The Voting Rights Act of 1965 and The Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965 plus the Great Society Legislation that included programs like Medicare, Medicaid and Head Start as well as Food Stamps. Nixon ran for president in 1968 with a Southern Strategy, appealing to bigots through the use of racial code words. Reagan took this a step further in 1980 shouting “states rights, the segregationists favorite slogan in Philadelphia Mississippi the place where 3 civil rights workers had been murdered. He then attacked the Great Society programs.

The arguments for limited governments espoused by conservatives have always been intertwined with racial bigotry. These new, scare white people advertisements are nothing new to folks who Know American history.

Teb said:
Rachel is a stupid, lying brain stem. If you follow her, well then…….

If you can’t understand them or refute there arguments just call them stupid. What’s stupid are those who do not see house conservatives have used racial bigotry to dupe undereducated Americans for over a hundred years. It is no wonder that a significant majority of Americans with either Masters and/or Doctoral degrees vote Liberal and Democratic. It’s a question of knowledge and intelligence.

armwood said:
history defending history defending slavery, segregation and racial discrimination.

Yes, the Dems were quite proud of their slave-holdings and filibusters against the ’64 CRA.

Teb said:
You couldn’t smack your way out of a wet paper bag, liberal boy.

Tony Westover said:
Yikes! The stench of fear on you is really strong.

That all you got dip shits? Or is it dips shit? You know, like Attorneys General. No matter. ;-)

Teb said:
Finally, this Westlake guy tells the truth.

You really are among the stupidest human beings on Earth, way too stupid to realize how stupid you really are.

LOL

notsofast said:
Yes, the Dems were quite proud of their slave-holdings and filibusters against the ‘64 CRA.

Yeah, cause ’64 was like… yesterday. The flight of the notsoswift buffoon continues. LOL

Paul Westlake said:
Dude, the Tea Party is one giant group cry! ROFL!

The embodiment of a whiner. Geez look at the above posts. Narcissus would be proud.

Paul Westlake said:
I’ll come back and smack you guys around some more a little later.

Tough talk from the ultimate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMEe7JqBgvg

That is correct. They were conservative Democrat’s. What is your issue? Many of them like Strong Thurmond became Republicans as a result of the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. As President Johnson predicted the Democratic Party had lost the south for two generations. In fact it was more. We are in our third generation of Republican domination of the South. There used to be many Liberal Republicans like Senator Jacob Javits and Congressman John v. Lindsay who led the 2/3 of Republicans in the house of Representatives who supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The problem is that the Goldwater wing took over the party and with Nixon and Reagan the Liberal Republicans were driven out of the party. The problem is conservatives, not necessarily Republicans.

Back to the thread. I wonder if rachel will mention this about the subject of fear? My guess is this minion of the DNC will avoid it all together.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2010/11/02/cnns-cooper-calls-out-alabama-democrat-racial-fear-mongering

armwood said:
It is no wonder that a significant majority of Americans with either Masters and/or Doctoral degrees vote Liberal and Democratic. It’s a question of knowledge and intelligence.

Knowledge and intelligence are not related when it comes to politics, not in the least. Many highly intelligent people have no clue when it comes to politics. You make no sense at all.

Penguin60 said:
The embodiment of a whiner. Geez look at the above posts. Narcissus would be proud.

Oh, good grief! You and the fucking Greek mythology again? Listen, Theseus, I know you think your bringing fire to humanity, but your people are more like Hercules – they use their strength without knowing its impact and wind up hurting the ones that love them most. If you’re going to take the trouble to get a classical education, could you at least draw the lessons of history that lie therein? Wow… just wow.

Cute video. ;-)

Teb said:
Knowledge and intelligence are not related when it comes to politics, not in the least. Many highly intelligent people have no clue when it comes to politics. You make no sense at all.

And more proof that the stalker “teb” is among the dumbest fucks humanity has ever produced.

Teb said:
Knowledge and intelligence are not related when it comes to politics, not in the least. Many highly intelligent people have no clue when it comes to politics. You make no sense at all.

Obviously not to you because what i am saying is above your depth. The statistics cannot be controverted. People with the highest formal education vote more liberal than those who are less educated. They also tend to focus on policy arguments and keep personal insults to a minimum because they are able to express their opinions intelligently. THey do not have to hide behind childish, schoolyard insults. A word to the wise should be sufficient.

armwood said:
Obviously not to you because what i am saying is above your depth. The statistics cannot be controverted. People with the highest formal education vote more liberal than those who are less educated. They also tend to focus on policy arguments and keep personal insults to a minimum because they are able to express their opinions intelligently. THey do not have to hide behind childish, schoolyard insults. A word to the wise should be sufficient.

Yeah, not around here. ;-)

Good points, though! ;-)

armwood said:
The statistics cannot be controverted. People with the highest formal education vote more liberal than those who are less educated.

Link?

Paul Westlake said:
Very funny. The day I fear conservatives is the day true fascism has arrived in America – because then they’ll actually be shooting at me with real guns. Until then, you’re all just a bunch of lightweights as far as I’m concerned. ;-)

Wow. I was gonna list off the insults to peoples intelligence that Paul fired off in the space of just a few minutes but but but….. instead I have a question for Paul.

Given the fact that you are a BIG advocate of an INFORMED CITIZENRY….. how do you feel about the GOTV effort of the (D) party? What do you think of ‘the base’ that the Prez has been ‘appealing to’ recently?

Enlightened folks (such as yourself and Maddow and Olbermann and Schultz) seem to be losing ground with more and more of your peers as they confront the harsh realities of life in the (D) party these days. There appears to be less and less room for that ‘highest form of patriotism’ as dissenters are cannibalized. Loyal life-long (D)’s are being shunned for daring to stray from WH talking points. The leftwing nuts have taken over the asylum.

But but but…. to Paul and his ilk this is ALL ABOUT THE TEA PARTY. Democrats running away from the Prez, refusing to hold townhall meetings this summer, only willing to trumpet their vote on the HCBill if it was a “NO” vote. What a bunch of friggin’ cowards. Step-and-fetch behind Reid and Pelosi…. Obowma says ‘don’t worry, you’ve got ME!”…… then, as they ram a bill that nobody read down our throats they say “THAT’S WHAT ELECTIONS ARE FOR”.

Well, they got that right.

A speed-reader on the floor of Congress, telling us ASTROTURFERS “we have to pass it to see what’s in it”, insulting the intelligence of We The People at every turn and all the while calling the American People racists for opposing the calamity. Quite the strategy, huh? Hard to believe it failed so miserably.

But but but…. it’s the Tea Parties fault! Those ignorant, racist, scared, hateful teaturds.

Do you even hear how ridiculous you leftwingers sound? The same party who has to hold the hands of its constituents to get their uninformed (D) votes logged in has the nerve to call Tea Party Patriots ‘stoopid’.

LMAO! Seriously…. ROTFLMFAO!!! Keep up the good work!!

armwood said:
Race……slavery, segregation and racial discrimination……. same extreme view…….appealing to bigots…….racial code words…….racial bigotry…….scare white people…….racial bigotry…….the problem is conservatives.

Typical race baiting and empty rhetoric. That is what to do when you have nothing to run on, after a trail of failed policies opposed by most Americans is what you are backed by. The phony “moderate” who shifted far left after being elected, spending 1.5 years on a 2700 page “health care” bill that no one knew what it contained, shoved through by bribes and buyoffs, failed stimulus, union payoffs, lawsuits against states for trying to enforce the law, zero focus on the economy, cap and trade.

Armwood race baits, but nothing compared to what Obama will start doing soon as 2012 approaches.

They also tend to focus on policy arguments and keep personal insults to a minimum….

armwood, you must be glossing over most of the left wing posts on here.

Corvax said:
Link?

Do your own research. It is out there. So many posters here do not take the time to do some actual academic research. It is better for you if you find it yourself.

Paul Westlake said:
they use their strength without knowing its impact and wind up hurting the ones that love them most.

You mean like this?

http://www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/forecast/archive/health-care-reform-tax-hikes-on-the-way.html

Maddow is a race-baiting piece of militant crap. She’s also a deceitful piece of crap. What goes around comes around. Karma, karma, karma.

armwood said:
Do your own research. It is out there. So many posters here do not take the time to do some actual academic research. It is better for you if you find it yourself.

Your comments are nothing but opinion then. That is fact.

Teb said:
Typical race baiting and empty rhetoric. That is what to do when you have nothing to run on, after a trail of failed policies opposed by most Americans is what you are backed by. The phony “moderate” who shifted far left after being elected, spending 1.5 years on a 2700 page “health care” bill that no one knew what it contained, shoved through by bribes and buyoffs, failed stimulus, union payoffs, lawsuits against states for trying to enforce the law, zero focus on the economy, cap and trade.

Armwood race baits, but nothing compared to what Obama will start doing soon as 2012 approaches.

Calling it a name “race baiting” does not challenge or refute the factual basis of what I said. Act like a grownup and repute the argument. Don’t be so lazy. Anybody can throw around insults are characterize someones argument by name calling. Show your ability to construct a logical, fact based argument. I doubt you will take me up on my challenge. Once again refute my arguments with facts not name calling! At least try!

Corvax said:
Your comments are nothing but opinion then. That is fact.

If they are opinion demonstrate that. Calling them opinion does not make it so. You are intelligent. Make an argument?

armwood said:
Obviously not to you because what i am saying is above your depth. The statistics cannot be controverted. People with the highest formal education vote more liberal than those who are less educated. They also tend to focus on policy arguments and keep personal insults to a minimum because they are able to express their opinions intelligently. THey do not have to hide behind childish, schoolyard insults. A word to the wise should be sufficient.

You do not focus on policy arguments. You focus on race. The voters who will send a loud and clear message to the current administration today are focused on policy. You will not like the message, but it will be an easy read, even for a dummy like me.

I do agree with you about the uneducated electorate. I was amazed in 2007 – 2008 by how many people were buffaloed into believing that Obama was a moderate, a uniter, a man in the middle who would bring everyone together. A record number of 18 – 20 year olds, pulled to the polls by Comedy Central, Hollywood, and rock stars to vote for OBAMA. Is that the highly educated electorate you are talking about??

armwood said:
If you can’t understand them or refute there arguments just call them stupid. What’s stupid are those who

LMAO!! Reminds me of that Chappelles Show …..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUb06iLjTKA&feature=related

at about the 1:15 mark good ol’ Rick (RIP) does the same thing this jeanyus “armwood” just did.

Damn, you guys are really in rare form today! Keep it up!

armwood said:
Calling it a name “race baiting” does not challenge or refute the factual basis of what I said. Act like a grownup and repute the argument. Don’t be so lazy. Anybody can throw around insults are characterize someones argument by name calling. Show your ability to construct a logical, fact based argument. I doubt you will take me up on my challenge. Once again refute my arguments with facts not name calling! At least try!

Here “Mr. Policy Guy”, I’ll post again –

You do not focus on policy arguments. You focus on race. The voters who will send a loud and clear message to the current administration today are focused on policy. You will not like the message, but it will be an easy read, even for a dummy like me.

I do agree with you about the uneducated electorate. I was amazed in 2007 – 2008 by how many people were buffaloed into believing that Obama was a moderate, a uniter, a man in the middle who would bring everyone together. A record number of 18 – 20 year olds, pulled to the polls by Comedy Central, Hollywood, and rock stars to vote for OBAMA. Is that the highly educated electorate you are talking about??

FearMonger said:
Wow. I was gonna list off the insults to peoples intelligence that Paul fired off in the space of just a few minutes but but but….. instead I have a question for Paul.

Given the fact that you are a BIG advocate of an INFORMED CITIZENRY….. how do you feel about the GOTV effort of the (D) party? What do you think of ‘the base’ that the Prez has been ‘appealing to’ recently?

Enlightened folks (such as yourself and Maddow and Olbermann and Schultz) seem to be losing ground with more and more of your peers as they confront the harsh realities of life in the (D) party these days. There appears to be less and less room for that ‘highest form of patriotism’ as dissenters are cannibalized. Loyal life-long (D)’s are being shunned for daring to stray from WH talking points. The leftwing nuts have taken over the asylum.

But but but…. to Paul and his ilk this is ALL ABOUT THE TEA PARTY. Democrats running away from the Prez, refusing to hold townhall meetings this summer, only willing to trumpet their vote on the HCBill if it was a “NO” vote. What a bunch of friggin’ cowards. Step-and-fetch behind Reid and Pelosi…. Obowma says ‘don’t worry, you’ve got ME!”…… then, as they ram a bill that nobody read down our throats they say “THAT’S WHAT ELECTIONS ARE FOR”.

Well, they got that right.

A speed-reader on the floor of Congress, telling us ASTROTURFERS “we have to pass it to see what’s in it”, insulting the intelligence of We The People at every turn and all the while calling the American People racists for opposing the calamity. Quite the strategy, huh? Hard to believe it failed so miserably.

But but but…. it’s the Tea Parties fault! Those ignorant, racist, scared, hateful teaturds.

Do you even hear how ridiculous you leftwingers sound? The same party who has to hold the hands of its constituents to get their uninformed (D) votes logged in has the nerve to call Tea Party Patriots ’stoopid’.

LMAO! Seriously…. ROTFLMFAO!!! Keep up the good work!!

Dude, cut out the “but but but” bullshit. Your condescending attitude is a non-starter. You better fucking believe I insulted the insult artists out here. You expect me to unilaterally disarm while you shove “but but but” down my throat with every post? Fuck you. I have more than demonstrated my fact-based analysis to you on multiple occasions. I have zero to prove here. I’m smarter than most of the conservatives commenting here. Yes. You better fucking believe it and I;m not shy about it. Yes, my comments, on the whole, are generally smarter, better educated, better informed, and fairer in editorial than absolutely every single comment from a conservative I’ve seen on these boards – without exception, without one, single exception. Not one conservative has ever proven a point they tried to make to me here, not one, not ever, not once, you included. You may THINK you have, but haven’t – not even close, not ever. So, you’ll excuse me when I completely ignore the vast majority of your comments to me, given your demonstrable sophistry and incessant condescension.

Got it? Good.

Penguin60 said:
You mean like this?

http://www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/forecast/archive/health-care-reform-tax-hikes-on-the-way.html

Did you actually read that article? LOL

armwood said:
If they are opinion demonstrate that. Calling them opinion does not make it so. You are intelligent. Make an argument?

The onus is not on me to prove your opinion as fact. It is on you to prove to others. I can go off claiming that people of higher education tend to vote conservative and then tell you that it is up to you to find the facts but I am not an idiot. The fact is you cant just throw statements out there, claim them as fact and then try to make others look it up. The only thing I derive from your statements is that I should not take you seriously because you obviously lack the proof to back your statements up.

I guess we shouldn’t think that Obama is against whites when Al Sharpton says that this this is their (blacks) term and their midterm elections because they have never had a term before Barack Obama was elected.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/al-sharpton-at-state-of-black-america-“it-is-our-term”-tea-party-folk-caused-recession-and-iraq/
So I guess it’s safe to say that both sides are making a race issue out of this.

Paul Westlake said:
Dude, cut out the “but but but” bullshit. Your condescending attitude is a non-starter. You better fucking believe I insulted the insult artists out here. You expect me to unilaterally disarm while you shove “but but but” down my throat with every post? Fuck you. I have more than demonstrated my fact-based analysis to you on multiple occasions. I have zero to prove here. I’m smarter than most of the conservatives commenting here. Yes. You better fucking believe it and I;m not shy about it. Yes, my comments, on the whole, are generally smarter, better educated, better informed, and fairer in editorial than absolutely every single comment from a conservative I’ve seen on these boards – without exception, without one, single exception. Not one conservative has ever proven a point they tried to make to me here, not one, not ever, not once, you included. You may THINK you have, but haven’t – not even close, not ever. So, you’ll excuse me when I completely ignore the vast majority of your comments to me, given your demonstrable sophistry and incessant condescension.

Got it? Good.

Having a cocky bravado about yourself doesnt make your statements more correct. It just helps build your own ego, which doesnt need any help as it seems.

Corvax said:
The onus is not on me to prove your opinion as fact. It is on you to prove to others. I can go off claiming that people of higher education tend to vote conservative and then tell you that it is up to you to find the facts but I am not an idiot. The fact is you cant just throw statements out there, claim them as fact and then try to make others look it up. The only thing I derive from your statements is that I should not take you seriously because you obviously lack the proof to back your statements up.

Oh, for crying out loud! Here:

- http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2009/09/02/Education,_Not_Race_Determines_Voting_Patterns/

Corvax said:
Having a cocky bravado about yourself doesnt make your statements more correct. It just helps build your own ego, which doesnt need any help as it seems.

Nice try, Corvax, but I’ve been commenting here for months now and have established a long track record of thoughtful commentary. Instance:

- http://www.mediaite.com/online/opponents-of-citizens-united-ruling-complain-about-everything-except-the-ruling-itself/#comment-176340

I’m able to compartmentalize. Are you? ;-)

Paul Westlake said:
The statistics cannot be controverted. People with the highest formal education vote more liberal than those who are less educated.

Paul Westlake said:
Yeah, not around here. ;-)
Good points, though! ;-)

Even IF what you say is true, so what? If you and Westlake think the highly educated are who got Obama elected, then you are both insane. You already know they are not, though. And now Obama is going back to the well again, to places like Comedy Central and to people like Ryan Seacrest. Back after the “highly educated” 18 year olds again.

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notsofast said:
Yes, the Dems were quite proud of their slave-holdings and filibusters against the ‘64 CRA.

Yeah, cause ‘64 was like… yesterday.

Ask black people if they think their “civil rights” are so yesterday, racist.

Teb said:
Even IF what you say is true, so what? If you and Westlake think the highly educated are who got Obama elected, then you are both insane. You already know they are not, though. And now Obama is going back to the well again, to places like Comedy Central and to people like Ryan Seacrest. Back after the “highly educated” 18 year olds again.

Dude, one, the first quote wasn’t mine. Two, polls and statistics seem to matter a whole lot to people like you leading into this election, but they suddenly don’t have any meaning when the numbers don’t favor your preconceived narrative. Typical, hypocritcal, conservative bullshit.

notsofast said:
Ask black people if they think their “civil rights” are so yesterday, racist.

Once again, you prove yourself to be an utter moron. The Dems of 1964 are the GOP of today. THAT’S the point. You either chose not to get it (making you an ass), or you actually didn’t get it (making you a hole). Ergo, ass hole. ;-)

Paul Westlake said:
Dude, cut out the “but but but” bullshit. Your condescending attitude is a non-starter. You better fucking believe I insulted the insult artists out here. You expect me to unilaterally disarm while you shove “but but but” down my throat with every post? Fuck you. I have more than demonstrated my fact-based analysis to you on multiple occasions. I have zero to prove here. I’m smarter than most of the conservatives commenting here. Yes. You better fucking believe it and I;m not shy about it. Yes, my comments, on the whole, are generally smarter, better educated, better informed, and fairer in editorial than absolutely every single comment from a conservative I’ve seen on these boards – without exception, without one, single exception. Not one conservative has ever proven a point they tried to make to me here, not one, not ever, not once, you included. You may THINK you have, but haven’t – not even close, not ever. So, you’ll excuse me when I completely ignore the vast majority of your comments to me, given your demonstrable sophistry and incessant condescension. Got it? Good.

Wow, you are one major asshole. And you accuse others of condecension. What an f-bomb dropping fool you are. Your President is going to take one MAJOR ass kicking today, because he is a liberal assbag like you.

Got it? Good.

Paul Westlake said:
Nice try, Corvax, but I’ve been commenting here for months now and have established a long track record of thoughtful commentary. Instance:

- http://www.mediaite.com/online/opponents-of-citizens-united-ruling-complain-about-everything-except-the-ruling-itself/#comment-176340

I’m able to compartmentalize. Are you? ;-)

That link has no significance to the statement that he made. You should let him fight his own battle.

Corvax said:
That link has no significance to the statement that he made. You should let him fight his own battle.

That link was about my track record, buddy. Please pay attention.

THIS link is the one that backed up armwood:

Paul Westlake said:
Oh, for crying out loud! Here:

- http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2009/09/02/Education,_Not_Race_Determines_Voting_Patterns/

Teb said:
Wow, you are one major asshole. And you accuse others of condecension. What an f-bomb dropping fool you are. Your President is going to take one MAJOR ass kicking today, because he is a liberal assbag like you.

Got it? Good.

You can’t handle an f-bomb? Are you three? Registered voters prefer Democrats by 4 points. Likely voters prefer Republicans by 4 points. That’s the only difference in this election. To suggest that Obama is gonna get an ass-kicking because “he’s a liberal asshat,” is just hammering another nail in your coffin of stoopid. Your primary mission here is to stalk Ted. You should stick with that.

Paul Westlake said:
That link was about my track record, buddy. Please pay attention.

THIS link is the one that backed up armwood:

I quoted the wrong comment, I read your advocate.com article. It was about education vs black voting patterns on gay rights. Not higher education voting patterns liberal vs. conservative. That link doesnt exactly prove his argument.

And, by the way, don’t you idiots realize that we ALL know that the ONLY reason you know who Saul Alinsky even was is because you’re all using his playbook right now! Liberals NEVER paid Alinsky much mind. But conservatives have embraced his methodology in total. You really have no idea what you’re getting into here… at all. Sad and pathetic really.

Corvax said:
I quoted the wrong comment, I read your advocate.com article. It was about education vs black voting patterns on gay rights. Not higher education voting patterns liberal vs. conservative. That link doesnt exactly prove his argument.

It proves is perfectly because the issue at hand was about civil rights. Liberals favor civil rights, conservatives do not. The more educated the individual, the more likely they are to be in favor of universal civil rights – ergo, liberal. It’s all right there in black and white.

NORBUTT says:
“Anyone fixated on externally-derived group identity is on a Neanderthal level of thinking. The fact they are progressive Democrats is cause for the adjective!”

But reactionary troglodytes in the Republican Party get a pass. Uh huh, I see.

NORBUTT says:
“…and they’ll be going down to defeat in record numbers today!!!!”

We’ll see. My progressive Congressman is considered safe, but the blue dog in the next district over is not. Most pundits see Congress becoming more divided because moderate Dems are being defeated by reactionary Republicans. Most of the progressive Dems will get re-elected because they represent urban, more sophisticated constituents.

Nice try there NORBUTT. Because Beck tells you something, doesn’t make it true. In fact, just the opposite in more cases than not.

Paul Westlake said:
It proves is perfectly because the issue at hand was about civil rights. Liberals favor civil rights, conservatives do not. The more educated the individual, the more likely they are to be in favor of universal civil rights – ergo, liberal. It’s all right there in black and white.

So Black people according to that dont support civil rights?

Paul Westlake said:
You can’t handle an f-bomb? Are you three? Registered voters prefer Democrats by 4 points. Likely voters prefer Republicans by 4 points. That’s the only difference in this election. To suggest that Obama is gonna get an ass-kicking because “he’s a liberal asshat,” is just hammering another nail in your coffin of stoopid. Your primary mission here is to stalk Ted. You should stick with that.

More made up numbers and facts from you. Is that all you do, make things up? Per Gallup (hardly left leaning) registered voters prefer Republicans by 4% and likely voters prefer Republicans by a whopping 15%, the biggest gap ever polled by Gallup.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/144125/republicans-appear-poised-win-big-tuesday.aspx#2

A plurality of Americans also say their vote is a message of opposition to Obama, 39%, also the highest number ever polled by Gallup.

http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/01/gallup-poll-likely-voters-prefer-republicans-over-democrats-leading-country-by-wide-margin/

There are the facts. Why do you insist on making up numbers and statistics? Are you three?

Corvax said:
So Black people according to that dont support civil rights?

Seriously, that’s the way you’re going to try to put the genie back in the bottle? Give it a rest.

GlennBeckReview said:
Most of the progressive Dems will get re-elected because they represent ultra liberal districts who vote for the farthest left candidate. That is why most of the longest serving people in Congress come from these districts, people blindly re-elect the far left liberal over and over again.

Yes, this Glen Beck Review guy is correct.

Oh boy, more crazed, tea-bagger violence!

Man Arrested In Campaign Sign Knife Attack

COBB COUNTY, Ga. — A Marietta man was arrested Monday after he attacked a state senator’s campaign manager in a scuffle over campaign signs, Cobb County police said.

Around 10 a.m., a man was spotted stealing campaign signs outside the Powder Springs campaign headquarters for Georgia state Senate District 33 candidate Craig Prewett, according to campaign news release. The headquarters, on Austell Powder Springs Road, is based out of the home of Edwin Lamour, Prewett’s campaign manager.

Lamour walked out of his front doors and confronted the man, who replied, “You shouldn’t be voting for this Craig Prewett fellow, you should vote for Steve Thompson,” said Prewett’s spokesman John Harris. Lamour said he followed the man across the street, where the man began pulling signs out of Prewett’s front yard.

Lamour told Channel 2’s Ross Cavitt that when he told the man to stop, the man pulled out a knife and “lunged at him.” Lamour said he screamed, and his brother, Edgar Lamour, and Prewett rushed to help him.

The three got into a car and chased the accused attacker, who had sped off in a pickup truck, Lamour said. They followed him through residential areas, and the man nearly hit someone at Powder Springs Elementary School, where a bus driver called the police, Harris said.

When Cobb County police arrived, the man was arrested on charges of aggravated assault and felony theft. Officers told Cavitt he ranted anti-Republican rhetoric throughout the process.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/25596141/detail.html

Paul Westlake said:
Seriously, that’s the way you’re going to try to put the genie back in the bottle? Give it a rest.

Good retort.

Paul Westlake said:
The Dems of 1964 are the GOP of today. THAT’S the point.

Nice lie, liar!

How many pre-1964 southern racist Democrat bigots did NOT join the Republican party after 1964?

Orval Fabus
Benjamin Travis Laney
John Stennis
James Eastland
Allen Ellender
Russell Long
John Sparkman
John McClellan
Richard Russell
Herman Talmadge
George Wallace
Lester Maddox
John Rarick
Robert Byrd
Al Gore, Sr.
Bull Connor

Senator Strom Thurmond switched parties and became a Republican as a result of his support for the Barry Goldwater campaign in 1964. Former Democrat Jesse Helms also switched his party registration to Republican in 1970 and won a Senate seat in North Carolina in 1972.

Helms waited until 1970 to change party because he was so upset about the passing of the ’64 CRA?

LOL

hey, libturd, you libs all have the same false talking points, and all your lying won’t change history!

Hahahaha

Teb said:
More made up numbers and facts from you. Is that all you do, make things up? Per Gallup (hardly left leaning) registered voters prefer Republicans by 4% and likely voters prefer Republicans by a whopping 15%, the biggest gap ever polled by Gallup.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/144125/republicans-appear-poised-win-big-tuesday.aspx#2

A plurality of Americans also say their vote is a message of opposition to Obama, 39%, also the highest number ever polled by Gallup.

http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/01/gallup-poll-likely-voters-prefer-republicans-over-democrats-leading-country-by-wide-margin/

There are the facts. Why do you insist on making up numbers and statistics? Are you three?

I go by the aggregates of multiple polls, which make it clear that Dems have an advantage in registered voters, the GOP in likely voters. Gallup also put the GOP ahead in the generic ballot in ’06 and ’08, by almost as many points – and they were dead wrong. That’s why aggregates are better than single polls. Gallup doesn’t know how to poll Millenials yet. Just like Rasmussen, their numbers are skewed in favor of the GOP. And, seriously, we’ll see what happens tonight, but anything short of a total blowout for the GOP will be a disappointment for your side, given the hype generated by unreliable polling. Even Nate Silver acknowledged that polling has been off by as much as ten points across all polls, all year long. So no, I’m not making up numbers. Gallup is one among many, many polls.

Paul Westlake said:
Registered voters prefer Democrats by 4 points. Likely voters prefer Republicans by 4 points. That’s the only difference in this election.

Really? (I refuse to LOL)

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/31/cnn-poll-majority-believes-gop-will-win-back-congress/

“Liberals favor civil rights, conservatives do not.”

Do you know how obtuse that sounds?
I’ll let my Conservative WWII South Pacific Marine father know that he doesn’t favor Civil Rights. Jesus, you are an asshole.

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Per od discussion.

Look- I was right!

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For Democrats, It Could Have Been Worse

Nov 2 2010, 8:32 AM ET 4
As bad a night as Democrats are going to have, it could have been much worse.

LMAO!

They are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo predictable!

Corvax said:
Good retort.

I don’t quite know how to take that, but it’s possible you actually meant it, since you don’t seem to have the Mediaite conservative proclivity for beating dead horses. So, thanks… I think. ;-)

HAHA, it didn;t take long, did it notsofast? I think they already had the stories written, just had to get them to press.

Penguin60 said:
Really? (I refuse to LOL)

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/31/cnn-poll-majority-believes-gop-will-win-back-congress/

“Liberals favor civil rights, conservatives do not.”

Do you know how obtuse that sounds?
I’ll let my Conservative WWII South Pacific Marine father know that he doesn’t favor Civil Rights. Jesus, you are an asshole.

You know, given the comments about liberals around here, you sure do have a thin skin. Yes, ultra-conservatives HATE gays and want them to die – mainly because they hate themselves for their own homoerotic tendencies, but that’s whole other can of worms. I can’t see ANYTHING in conservative rhetoric that suggests otherwise. And if people like you think I’m an asshole, I MUST be doing something right. ;-)

Paul Westlake said:
Dude, cut out the “but but but” bullshit. Your condescending attitude is a non-starter. You better fucking believe I insulted the insult artists out here. You expect me to unilaterally disarm while you shove “but but but” down my throat with every post? Fuck you. I have more than demonstrated my fact-based analysis to you on multiple occasions. I have zero to prove here. I’m smarter than most of the conservatives commenting here. Yes. You better fucking believe it and I;m not shy about it. Yes, my comments, on the whole, are generally smarter, better educated, better informed, and fairer in editorial than absolutely every single comment from a conservative I’ve seen on these boards – without exception, without one, single exception. Not one conservative has ever proven a point they tried to make to me here, not one, not ever, not once, you included. You may THINK you have, but haven’t – not even close, not ever. So, you’ll excuse me when I completely ignore the vast majority of your comments to me, given your demonstrable sophistry and incessant condescension.

Got it? Good.

Get over yourself, Westlake!

notsofast said:
Nice lie, liar!

How many pre-1964 southern racist Democrat bigots did NOT join the Republican party after 1964?

Orval Fabus
Benjamin Travis Laney
John Stennis
James Eastland
Allen Ellender
Russell Long
John Sparkman
John McClellan
Richard Russell
Herman Talmadge
George Wallace
Lester Maddox
John Rarick
Robert Byrd
Al Gore, Sr.
Bull Connor

Senator Strom Thurmond switched parties and became a Republican as a result of his support for the Barry Goldwater campaign in 1964. Former Democrat Jesse Helms also switched his party registration to Republican in 1970 and won a Senate seat in North Carolina in 1972.

Helms waited until 1970 to change party because he was so upset about the passing of the ‘64 CRA?

LOL

hey, libturd, you libs all have the same false talking points, and all your lying won’t change history!

Hahahaha

You continue to prove the depth of your sophist stupidity. The VOTERS were Dems in ’64, and nearly ALL of them voted GOP in ’68. Get a grip, little boy.

Patrick Henry said:
Get over yourself, Westlake!

Asps! Very dangerous! You go first! ;-)

Paul Westlake said:
Yes, ultra-conservatives HATE gays and want them to die – mainly because they hate themselves for their own homoerotic tendencies, but that’s whole other can of worms. I can’t see ANYTHING in conservative rhetoric that suggests otherwise

There was a story earlier about that school board trog that made horrific comments about gays. Universally there was condemnation of that clown. Libs and conservatives, at least on this board.
Conservatives don’t have gay sons and daughters, brothers and sisters? They don’t love them, you know that for a fact? That’s an being asshole.

I for one have a gay relative that I adore, Paul, so you have NO idea what you are talking about. Do I agree with his lifestyle, No I don’t, but I love him.

Teb said:
You do not focus on policy arguments. You focus on race. The voters who will send a loud and clear message to the current administration today are focused on policy. You will not like the message, but it will be an easy read, even for a dummy like me.

I do agree with you about the uneducated electorate. I was amazed in 2007 – 2008 by how many people were buffaloed into believing that Obama was a moderate, a uniter, a man in the middle who would bring everyone together. A record number of 18 – 20 year olds, pulled to the polls by Comedy Central, Hollywood, and rock stars to vote for OBAMA. Is that the highly educated electorate you are talking about??

They are better educated than those who support Palin and company. How can you go to four colleges in four years? That is pathetic. The statistic show, as I said that those with a maters or doctorate vote. liberal. I would not call someone with just a B.A. or B.S. highly educated. That is to me a bare minimum of education.

Penguin60 said:
There was a story earlier about that school board trog that made horrific comments about gays. Universally there was condemnation of that clown. Libs and conservatives, at least on this board.
Conservatives don’t have gay sons and daughters, brothers and sisters? They don’t love them, you know that for a fact? That’s an being asshole.

You would think that gay sons and daughters would make a difference in conservative policy, but it hasn’t and it doesn’t and it won’t. 2008 featured more than a dozen ballot initiatives designed to deny gay rights. DADT is still the darling policy of the right wing. It’s a joke to suggest that a few anecdotal incidents are the equivalent of national policy. You want to know what being an asshole REALLY is? Having a gay child and STILL being in favor of DADT, the defense of marriage act, and constitutional amendments to outlaw gay marriage altogether. THAT’S asshole.

Seeing November From My Window said:
I for one have a gay relative that I adore, Paul, so you have NO idea what you are talking about. Do I agree with his lifestyle, No I don’t, but I love him.

Do you favor DADT or not?

Paul Westlake said:
Dude, cut out the “but but but” bullshit. Your condescending attitude is a non-starter. You better fucking believe I insulted the insult artists out here. You expect me to unilaterally disarm while you shove “but but but” down my throat with every post? Fuck you. I have more than demonstrated my fact-based analysis to you on multiple occasions. I have zero to prove here. I’m smarter than most of the conservatives commenting here. Yes. You better fucking believe it and I;m not shy about it. Yes, my comments, on the whole, are generally smarter, better educated, better informed, and fairer in editorial than absolutely every single comment from a conservative I’ve seen on these boards – without exception, without one, single exception. Not one conservative has ever proven a point they tried to make to me here, not one, not ever, not once, you included. You may THINK you have, but haven’t – not even close, not ever. So, you’ll excuse me when I completely ignore the vast majority of your comments to me, given your demonstrable sophistry and incessant condescension. Got it? Good.

Thanks for the laugh ;) Absolutely spot on:

http://www.mental-health-today.com/narcissistic/dsm.htm

armwood said:
They are better educated than those who support Palin and company. How can you go to four colleges in four years? That is pathetic. The statistic show, as I said that those with a maters or doctorate vote. liberal. I would not call someone with just a B.A. or B.S. highly educated. That is to me a bare minimum of education.

I went to four colleges in four years… and yes, my first semester WAS pathetic, but I got it together after that. Some schools just don’t deliver on their promises and sometimes we have to move on. I went to SUNY New Paltz, Mercy College, The Westchester Conservatory of Music, and New School University all within the space about four or five years. And I went through multiple majors before I decided to just graduate with a liberal arts degree. I don’t give anyone guff about their educational route, just about the lessons they never learned, or the ones they learned wrong. ;-)

Penguin60 said:
Thanks for the laugh ;) Absolutely spot on:

http://www.mental-health-today.com/narcissistic/dsm.htm

OK, cyclops, whatever you say. ;-)

Do you favor DADT or not?

Personally, I don’t really care. I leave it up to the military to decide what is the best for them.

Paul Westlake said:
Having a gay child and STILL being in favor of DADT, the defense of marriage act, and constitutional amendments to outlaw gay marriage altogether.

Do you have a gay child/brother/sister? Talk to me when you do. They just want to live their lives without interference. DADT?, give me a break, what an issue, bitch to barry, you’ve had 2 years, end it. Constitutional amendments? Really that’s your arguement that conservatives don’t care about gays?

You really have no idea what your talking about.

armwood said:
They are better educated than those who support Palin and company. How can you go to four colleges in four years? That is pathetic. The statistic show, as I said that those with a maters or doctorate vote. liberal. I would not call someone with just a B.A. or B.S. highly educated. That is to me a bare minimum of education.

I don’t like Palin. She represents the farthest right view, as Obama represents the farthest left view. The White House is no place for someone so far out of step with the views of average Americans. Obama is a failure, as Palin would be. Extremists like Rush Limbaugh and Bill Maher make fun of moderates, as though they have no spine. To hell with them. This country badly NEEDS a moderate who will be fiscally conservative and socially moderate. Sarah Palin and Barack Obama represent what is WRONG in politics today, not what is right.

Penguin60 said:
Do you have a gay child/brother/sister? Talk to me when you do. They just want to live their lives without interference. DADT?, give me a break, what an issue, bitch to barry, you’ve had 2 years, end it. Constitutional amendments? Really that’s your arguement that conservatives don’t care about gays?

You really have no idea what your talking about.

Yes. I have a bisexual brother and a bisexual sister. My nanny as a baby was gay, and is still among my best family friends. Conservatives may love the individual gay people in their lives, but as a class, they despise the “gay agenda.” If you don’t then YOU should be the one standing up and condemning YOUR party and its most extreme anti-civil rights supporters for their un-American stance regarding gays, in every aspect of civic life. I know PRECISELY what I’m talking about, and I’m not the one who is a walking contradiction on the subject – “hate the sin, love the sinner” bullshit!

armwood said:
I would not call someone with just a B.A. or B.S. highly educated. That is to me a bare minimum of education.

Holy shit, do you know how extremist/elitist that sounds?

Seeing November From My Window said:
Do you favor DADT or not?

Personally, I don’t really care. I leave it up to the military to decide what is the best for them.

If Truman felt the way you do, blacks would still be segregated in the military. The military serves US, not the other way around. It functions the way WE tell it to function. And if it can’t, then we’ll find Generals who can. Lincoln proved that point, for crying out loud. Don’t tell me I’m the one who doesn’t get it. I’m looking at history and society and it tells me that DADT is a destructive policy in every possible way. Leaving it up to military is a cop out.

Penguin60 said:
armwood said:
I would not call someone with just a B.A. or B.S. highly educated. That is to me a bare minimum of education.

Holy shit, do you know how extremist/elitist that sounds?

I have to agree with Cyclops on this one. Jimmy Hendrix never studied a note of music theory and has been compared to Bach and Mozart for pure musicianship and compositional prowess. Fredrick Douglas never received the type of formal education you describe but was widely considered to be among the top thinkers of his generation. And my father, who attended maybe three semesters of formal education in total, wound up writing over a hundred novels and being named Grand Master by the Mystery Writers of America. The education, in and of itself, is not enough to denote intelligence or awareness. It depends on the individual MUCH more than the institution.

Paul Westlake said:
Conservatives may love the individual gay people in their lives, but as a class, they despise the “gay agenda.”

The “gay agenda”? Just what is that? My gay family member’s only agenda is to live their lives and be happy. They do not support gay marriage, and one srved in the military for 4 yrs. Why should anyone know that another individual is gay?

Paul Westlake said:
I have to agree with Cyclops on this one.

One eyebrow doesn’t mean I have one eye.
You do have to admit the DSM is quite humerous considering the post.

valkyrie101 said:
Felix, this is no lose for dems. Giving up both houses will increase Obama’s chances in 2012.

Loon alert! Loon alert!

ok, I’m a scared white person. I am opposed to Obama’s political philosophy as shown by his actions; i.e. to tremendously increase Fed. power to dictate to America according to his beliefs; to redistribute the wealth, to punish the successful business owners, to give government jobs to those unions that vote for him; that dictates that everyone must buy a product (health care), et.al. If Maddow thinks I’m a racist for my position, then I’m in pretty good company. I am also opposed to Pelosi and Reid, and Frank… What does that make me, other than some lizard brained enemy that should ride at the back of the bus? Then again, I’ll be in pretty good company there. lmao

valkyrie101 said:
Felix, this is no lose for dems. Giving up both houses will increase Obama’s chances in 2012. .

Only if Palin is against him. If the Republicans dont put somebody polarizing up, Obama is a one term President.

Paul Westlake said:
Dude, cut out the “but but but” bullshit

Wow Paul. You really have lost it. You know what they say about people who constantly rant about their own superior intelligence, don’t you?

Of course, then there’s the other thing they say about the limited vocabulary of people who use multiple expletives.

And the thing “armwood” said about calling people stoopid (right before he went and called people stoopid) lmao!

But but but… the thing you miss about my use of “but but but”‘s is that it’s a slam on libtards JUST LIKE YOU. Just like you have done on this thread….. you come on here talking about how happy you are, how it’s gonna be a great day, all day. Shall I pull the quote?

But but but you have proven that you are not happy at all Paul. In fact your bitter projection has been called out from the moment you started in on this thread and all you have to say is “YOU ARE STUPID AND I AM SMART.” Same old shit from a pompous (not to mention HATEFUL) windbag.

So you want me to stop with the “but but but’s” …. I say YOU FIRST Paul. You can’t even get the narrative right in your own head. Too many voices in there I guess.

btw…..

Paul Westlake said:
Not one conservative has ever proven a point they tried to make to me here,

About that, Paul, I have no doubt. You make absolutely sure of it.

That’s why you ignore my questions and why you won’t acknowledge that you said “the only poll that matters is November 2nd” without trying to twist a sound thumping into some kind of bizarro victory. Your party is courting the MTV and American Idol crowds while simultaneously calling a majority of the American Electorate stoopid.

So… you want me to stop making fun of you with my “but but but’s”? To answer that request I will use the words of one of the resident jeanyus’……..

Paul Westlake said:
Fuck you

And while I’m at it….. tell me more about ‘incessant condcescention’ you friggin’ hypocrite. The evidence of your own hateful condescention is all over this thread. You and “armwood” stunk it up quite nicely in here. Congrats.

I know it’s redundant but but but…. I REALLY MEAN IT …..Keep up the good work!!

Penguin60 said:
The “gay agenda”? Just what is that?

Hey, join the club! It’s not my phrase!

Penguin60 said:
My gay family member’s only agenda is to live their lives and be happy. They do not support gay marriage, and one srved in the military for 4 yrs. Why should anyone know that another individual is gay?

Multiple layers in this one. The problem is not whether or not people know, it’s whether or not people get in trouble for knowing – which is currently the policy under DADT. Allowing gays to openly serve wouldn’t make an operational difference in the slightest, as the fact that your gay relative served for four year proves. But too many extremely talented and qualified people have been booted from the military because of a policy that never made sense. Gay soldiers openly served during WWII, but nobody gave a crap as long as it wasn’t on any official paperwork. We know how these things work. What I’m saying is that codifying DADT actually made the situation worse – more gays were booted during DADT than ever before, during the time when it was actually restricted, but mostly unenforced. And the only reason it exists is because of conservatives. The only reason the defense of marriage act exists is because of conservatives. There is no argument anyone can make that lays the onus for these forms of discrimination at the doorstep of liberals.

I know conservatives love their gay friends and family members, but then they go out and support policies that openly discriminate against those same people. That’s the contradiction. Liberals believe in universal civil rights for all. So, if heterosexuals can marry, then homosexuals should be able to marry. If straights can serve, then gays should be able to serve. Universal civil rights should apply to all regardless of race, creed, color, gender, political persuasion, or sexual orientation. Anyone can express love and devotion to the gay people in their personal contacts all day long, but it doesn’t make up for supporting an agenda that treats those very people as second-class citizens. It just doesn’t.

Penguin60 said:
You do have to admit the DSM is quite humerous considering the post

LMFAO! Yup.

#1 and #9 are especially applicable, but Paul easily meets the requirement…he gets 5 out of 9 on that list even when he’s current on his meds and only one voice is chimin’ in.

Days like today he’s probably battin’ a thousand. ;o)

Penguin60 said:
Thanks for the laugh ;) Absolutely spot on: http://www.mental-health-today.com/narcissistic/dsm.htm

Don’t forget this one…. how many of the nine does this post qualify him for?

Paul Westlake said:
I went to four colleges in four years… and yes, my first semester WAS pathetic, but I got it together after that. Some schools just don’t deliver on their promises and sometimes we have to move on. I went to SUNY New Paltz, Mercy College, The Westchester Conservatory of Music, and New School University all within the space about four or five years. And I went through multiple majors before I decided to just graduate with a liberal arts degree. I don’t give anyone guff about their educational route, just about the lessons they never learned, or the ones they learned wrong. ;-)

FearMonger said:
You know what they say about people who constantly rant about their own superior intelligence, don’t you?

That was the only time I ever busted out with that on these boards, and you better believe I thought twice before clicking submit. BUT, I did it to demonstrate that certain people who spend an inordinate amount of time accusing liberals of being stupid haven’t made a convincing argument that would demonstrate that intelligence to me, at least so far. It was a challenge to see if anyone could try to make me eat humble pie with a really focused and intelligent response. Here’s what you chose…

FearMonger said:
But but but… the thing you miss about my use of “but but but”’s is that it’s a slam on libtards

You honestly think I don’t fucking know that? I mean you REALLY sat there and thought, “Wow! Paulie doesn’t understand that I’m slamming him when I say that! What a douche!” Really? Are you THAT obtuse?

Yes, today IS the only poll that counts. We’ll all see what happens soon enough.

And “fuck you” isn’t condescending, it’s an epithet. “But but but” is condescending.

And I fully plan to keep on correcting, informing, mocking, and even listening to the confused right-wingers I encounter, for it is meat and drink for me to see a fool. ;-)

And for the record, my favorite Shakespeare quote comes from Touchstone the court jester in As You Like It:

“The fool doth think he is wise but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.”

I know I’m prone to error, and when I’ve made mistakes, I’ve owned them, corrected them, and even apologized. I don’t see a lot of that on the right.

Big Eddie said:
At least Barry’s got a plan for this week :
The Obama’s Asian Vacation !

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/10/30/after_election_obama_to_flee_us.html

Pig Eddie repeats a twice-revealed lie. From my previous post on the matter:

His link to a newspaper article did not substantiate his claims. Among other details, he said the president was going on an expensive “pleasure trip” and implied that half the U. S. Navy and 1,600 White House personnel were going with him – even though his own linked article said the prez was going to India to meet a group of business people. john t’s link to a separate newspaper article (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/10/27/1790701/in-india-obama-to-stay-at-site.html) proved many of Big Enema’s falsehoods. (Obama is, in fact, going on an extended trip through much of Asia.) I even suggested the possibility that Eddie’s linked article contained an honest error (I don’t think the White House has 1,600 personnel, as reported), which should give one pause. Nevertheless, he stuck with it . . .and stunk with it . . . and SUNK with it.

Big Ugghie COMPOUNDED his original lie by repeating it after john t and I both called him on it.

Bag Eddie counted on nitsowits like [nitsowit] to blindly take his word as a fellow neocon stooge. As we can all see, it worked handily.

[nitsowit] lift[s] articles from right-wing sources like hotair.com. The “Civil Rights Commission” article [he] “borrowed” appeared at:

hotair.com/archives/2010/10/29/high-level-political-officials-interfered-in-nbpp-case-forced-withdrawal/

- and was linked to and reported on by other sites.

[He] either present[s] such articles as [his] own or fail[s] to reveal their provenance – as if [he] could utter an original thought or, God forbid, an actual FACT. Anyone with a brain . . . can discern this with a little effort.

[He] only seem[s] to provide sources when they’re NOT from right-wing media, perhaps as a way of concealing the widespread impact of neocon media and overstate the impact of “liberal” media.

[He] steal[s] entire articles outright, which is plagiarism – i.e., THEFT.

I’m glad [he's] not a lib; they don’t want [him] Sensible cons would think twice about their malodorous association with [him], as well. [He is] a sycophant, a liar, a thief and a wretched waste of human flesh.
—
“So what is it when Democrats say that Republicans want to take Grandma’s social security and make her eat dog food.”

It’s called “the truth.” Republicants have opposed SocSec since its inception under FDR.

“The xenophobic and racist act of putting Japanese Americans in camps”

- was vigorously opposed by Republicans . . . NOT. Selective memory? Very.

“liberalism is being rejected by monumental proportions.”

““I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality. ” – George Washington. Libs are in good company.

“Rachel tries so hard to get someone to listen to her….BUT…her message falls on deaf ears.”

TP Repubs have their fingers in their ears, rather than listening and, heaven forfend, LEARNING something.

Paul Westlake said:
And the only reason it exists is because of conservatives.

And one of the reasons it is going away is because of conservatives( Log Cabin Republicans)

“Log Cabin’s mission derives from our firm belief in the principles of limited government, individual liberty, individual responsibility, free markets and a strong national defense.”

You’ll find that there are many Conservatives that are fiscally conservative and socially moderate.
Personnally, I would rather have a gay SM, that wants to serve his Country covering my son, rather than a straight felon that’s there instead of jail.

The marriage issue should be State decision. In reality what’s the difference between marriage and civil union? Is marriage a right?

Regardless of whether you like Rachel or not or are conservative or not, this type of ugly race baiting appeal to ignorance, ought to be condemned.

I have to wonder why so many conservative posters rail and rave about what they find disgusting and dishonest in liberal campaigns and actions, and then when a similar act is pointed out coming from a conservative it seems totally justified.

Paul Westlake said:
“The fool doth think he is wise but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.”

I don’t ‘see a lot of that’ coming from YOU, Paul.

As for this jewel….I’ll toss out MY favorite quote from Shakespeare….

Paul Westlake said:
You honestly think I don’t fucking know that?

“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”
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btw… it really proves the ‘narcissism’ charge that you think the ‘but but but’ is all about YOU Paul. I use it all the time. Just like the dot dot dots and the ALL CAPS that you pointed to before in some lame attempt to make me seem unhinged. Again, methinks you protest too much….

Paul Westlake said:
That was the only time I ever busted out with that on these boards

Wow. You and Olbermann own a special category of DELUSION. Neither of you remember what you say from one day to the next. Hell, you can’t even stick to the narrative that YOU started on this very thread!. Isn’t that convenient?

Tell me Paul, what’s it like to have unconditional deniability?
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If you think anybody here actually buys that you have never before played the ‘superior intelligence’ card then you are even more deluded than I thought…..

Good grief. Get real.

Paul Westlakethe Tea Party is one giant group cry! ROFL!

Liberalism is one giant ‘sit-on-your-porch-and-wait-for-entitlements.’ Oh, wait…I forgot to add ‘ROFL!’

Penguin60 said:
You’ll find that there are many Conservatives that are fiscally conservative and socially moderate.

Then you should be Democrats. Seriously. Democrats are the party of universal civil rights for all. The log cabin Repubs are an enigma who are ignored completely, if not reviled, in their own party. I appreciate that they’re on the right side of this issue, but they don’t represent the establishment, or the grass roots, by a long shot. And when it comes to the economy, the Democrats are hands-down winners. Please don’t throw “spending” and “deficits” in my face, because we both know most of the deficit and all of the job losses were a direct result of supply-side policy. And if you don’t, please go find out for yourself. Even Donald Trump calls the Democrats the better managers of the economy. And all the corporate assholes that are whining right now just posted record profits in the last quarter… again! Don’t believe the conservative lie that they are good stewards of our economy – they aren’t. Just look at the record, really look at it. Since Reagan/Bush Sr., then Gingrich, then Bush Jr., conservative supply-side economic policy has dominated Washington DC. Obama has barely been in office long enough to move the macroeconomic meter much at all, but he has, and most indicators are positive, and all are better than they were in W’s final year. Look at the record. If you really are a social moderate and fiscal conservative, you belong with the Democrats. ;-)

FearMonger said:
I don’t ’see a lot of that’ coming from YOU, Paul.

You don’t see much of anything.

FearMonger said:
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

No really, I knew that, it was the whole fucking point I was making. I guess you really are that obtuse.

FearMonger said:
it really proves the ‘narcissism’ charge that you think the ‘but but but’ is all about YOU Paul

I said in your comments to me, not in all your comments, because I’m not arrogant enough to believe I have a right to police the way you communicate with others. But I do have a right to take whatever issue I like with the way you communicate with me. I think that’s fair. You think that’s (insert absurd reactionary buzzword here).

FearMonger said:
Wow. You and Olbermann own a special category of DELUSION. Neither of you remember what you say from one day to the next. Hell, you can’t even stick to the narrative that YOU started on this very thread!. Isn’t that convenient?

You know what would be convenient? Proof that I’ve ever said anything like that one self-congratulatory comment ever. One time I had a fight with Gordon when he accused me of not having any clue about how the media worked… and you know how things can go with Gordon the Great. ;-) But that’s about as close as it gets.

FearMonger said:
If you think anybody here actually buys that you have never before played the ’superior intelligence’ card then you are even more deluded than I thought…..

Answering in kind those people who accuse liberals of being stupid all day long is not the equivalent of “playing the superior intellect card.” And for a guy who is so thoroughly condescending toward your opponents in nearly every comment you post, you sure do have a lot of chutzpah using that routine. But it’s not surprising at all that you would be upset by my holding a mirror up for you to see your own reflection.

ChrisNH said:
Liberalism is one giant ’sit-on-your-porch-and-wait-for-entitlements.’ Oh, wait…I forgot to add ‘ROFL!’

Sure it is. Now go collect your disability check on your way to your medicaid-financed doctor’s appointment. And don’t forget to honk if you hate “socialism!” Leech.

Seeing Doom from My Cell Window: “HAHA, it would appear that Rachel got her talking points from the daily kos”

No, it wouldn’t. As usual, newsblusters.org selectively edited the DK post to distort its meaning/intent.. Direct link: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/11/1/193455/597

Don’t cons get tired of lying to each other?

“if the Republicans had truly wanted to put Grandma on the Alpo diet, they would already tried that gambit after 1994. ”

Repubs can’t overtly attack SocSec, since it’s so popular. Instead, they’ll try to destroy it from within – and shovel our $$$ at their fat cat pals – by giving it to Wall St, which will probably bankrupt it as they did many people with 401(k)s.

“the people of the United States of America found Oblah-Blah’s message loathsome. :)”

They “found it” distorted and perverted by self-interested a right-wing media that doesn’t give a damn about accuracy or honesty. Fakes “News” is so thoroughly corrupt the wouldn’t know (or report) an actual fact if it bit them. Right-wing radio gabbers and websites deliberately distort known facts or simply lie outright (see newsblusters,, above.)

Corporations – both domestic AND foreign – are dumping bales of unreported $$$ into right-wing candidates. They are literally BUYING their own legislators, just as similarly corrupt interests did during the late 1800′s. Many “domestic” companies long ago moved offshore – taking their profits, our jobs and our potential tax receipts with them.

Oh, yeah, it’s the Republicans are bigots and racists. BS

Dem Supporter Unleashes Violent Profanity-Laced Tirade on GOP Crowd – November 2, 2010

by Jonathon M. Seidl

Unbelievable video has surfaced from Virginia’s 5th district, where a supporter of Rep. Tom Perriello (D) went on a rampage against supporters of Republican Robert Hurt.

In the video, the man can be seen ripping up signs and verbally assaulting a group of people assembled not far from Perriello’s headquarters. He especially hones in on a black female Hurt supporter, who he calls a “sellout” and a “f****** black b****“ and asks how she can associate with ”racist-a** white people.“ He then goes on to call the group and the woman the ”N” word.

The profanity and rage are remarkable. And according to the video’s narrator, police nearby did not intervene.

Again, GRAPHIC CONTENT WARNING:

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=UPIP-i3sdVk

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/dem-pundit-unleashes-violent-profanity-laced-tirade-on-gop-supporters/

“Capitalism is a system designed to spread the wealth. ”

Classical capitalism, perhaps. Our current “free trade/free-for-all” system has had the effect of concentrating greater and greater wealth among fewer and fewer people. More sensible “fair trade” regulations must be devised to address the widening income inequality between the wealthiest and poorest. NAFTA/CAFTA/GATT were very destructive to domestic industry and were among the worst things Clinton ever agreed to.

An ALLEGED “supporter” of Rep. Tom Perriello (D) went on a rampage. How do we know he wasn’t a “plant” intended to discredit Periello’s campaign?

“I don’t shy away from making predictions, but I’m not as cocksure as you guys are, that’s for sure. You may be right, but what happens if you’re wrong? Will you just disappear for a few days, let the stink blow over and hope everyone forgets your iron-clad predictions from the previous three months? ”

Probably. Tea Party Republicants have short memories . . . among other abbreviated, er . . . physical characteristics.

“The flight of the notsoswift buffoon continues.”

Much like the dodo bird . . . except birds don’t lie.

Paul Westlake said:
I went to four colleges in four years… and yes, my first semester WAS pathetic, but I got it together after that. Some schools just don’t deliver on their promises and sometimes we have to move on. I went to SUNY New Paltz, Mercy College, The Westchester Conservatory of Music, and New School University all within the space about four or five years. And I went through multiple majors before I decided to just graduate with a liberal arts degree. I don’t give anyone guff about their educational route, just about the lessons they never learned, or the ones they learned wrong. ;-)

I hear you but I expect a better scholastic record from someone who may aspire to be president. I agree finishing is what is important but grades are also relevant. Look what we got with President {Gentlemen’s C) Bush

Teb said:
I don’t like Palin. She represents the farthest right view, as Obama represents the farthest left view. The White House is no place for someone so far out of step with the views of average Americans. Obama is a failure, as Palin would be. Extremists like Rush Limbaugh and Bill Maher make fun of moderates, as though they have no spine. To hell with them. This country badly NEEDS a moderate who will be fiscally conservative and socially moderate. Sarah Palin and Barack Obama represent what is WRONG in politics today, not what is right.

What Obama policies do you see has extremist? Healthcare, his healthcare bill was extremely conservative by developed nation standards. The TARP, that was proposed by Republicans, the stimulus plan, that was old fashioned Keynesian economics. What specific policies do you think were extreme?

jrcmi said:
“Capitalism is a system designed to spread the wealth. ”

Classical capitalism, perhaps. Our current “free trade/free-for-all” system has had the effect of concentrating greater and greater wealth among fewer and fewer people. More sensible “fair trade” regulations must be devised to address the widening income inequality between the wealthiest and poorest. NAFTA/CAFTA/GATT were very destructive to domestic industry and were among the worst things Clinton ever agreed to.

Yeah, I meant classical capitalism, the entrepreneurial capitalism of constant destruction, with safety nets to encourage risk, a regulatory scheme that prevents private accumulation of enough wealth to compete with political interests, and public-private partnerships, or cooperative socialism for non-competitive functions from public utilities to law enforcement, etc. I have no disagreement with anything you said. ;-)

“I guess we shouldn’t think that Obama is against whites when Al Sharpton says . . . ”

It may have escaped your keen attention that Sharpton is not Obama and does not speak for him. It’s only your own racism that intertwines them. (They all LOOK alike = they all THINK alike.) Pretty sad.

armwood said:
I hear you but I expect a better scholastic record from someone who may aspire to be president. I agree finishing is what is important but grades are also relevant. Look what we got with President {Gentlemen’s C) Bush

That had less to do with his grades then his loyalties. Kerry was a C student, too, and I think we both agree he would have done a much better job. If our educational institutions were equally capable of providing a quality education, I would agree. But having seen first-hand – 15 secondary schools, 4 colleges, 2 technical schools, and one state-certified teachers license – I know that isn’t the case, and that many Americans really have mostly their own agency to thank for their education. I was a mostly c student through sophomore year of high school. And then I poured it on. But it was me making the decision, not the school – though I do give the high school I graduated from a lot of credit for offering a more diverse and stimulating education than any of my previous schools, save one. I let the educational background go and pay closer attention to the ideas they espouse now. It’s not hard to know when the logic adds up and when it doesn’t. And even the most highly educated can still be prone to serious errors of judgment. I care more about what they know and think now than anything else.

jrcmi said:
“Capitalism is a system designed to spread the wealth. ”

Classical capitalism, perhaps. Our current “free trade/free-for-all” system has had the effect of concentrating greater and greater wealth among fewer and fewer people. More sensible “fair trade” regulations must be devised to address the widening income inequality between the wealthiest and poorest. NAFTA/CAFTA/GATT were very destructive to domestic industry and were among the worst things Clinton ever agreed to.

Capitalism is a system designed to concentrate wealth in the hands of the wealthiest entrepreneurs. That is why we have a mixed economy with anti-trust laws and laws restricting anti-competitive behavior. We have laws prohibiting price fixing. These laws limit capitalism and create more opportunity for more people. In that way wealth is spread by limiting natural capitalist forces from concentrating to much wealth and market dominance in a few hands. These limitations on capitalism have made America the richest nation in the world.

When one company is free to dominate a market innovation dies. Who do you know who still uses Internet Explorer outside of work? I don’t know anybody and haven’t for years. Microsoft became big, fat and lazy. They engaged in anti-competitive behavior by bundling I.E. in with Windows. They drove Netscape out the market. They were sued all over the developed world for anti-competitive behavior. The Mozilla Group jumped in and built FireFox, a far superior browser. Then Google jumped in and made an even better browser. Capitalism must be regulated. The invisible hand of the marketplace often leads to monopoly and stagnation as well as lax safety protections for consumers. A mixed economy, the American model, I think os the best way to go.

armwood said:
Capitalism is a system designed to concentrate wealth in the hands of the wealthiest entrepreneurs. That is why we have a mixed economy with anti-trust laws and laws restricting anti-competitive behavior. We have laws prohibiting price fixing. These laws limit capitalism and create more opportunity for more people. In that way wealth is spread by limiting natural capitalist forces from concentrating to much wealth and market dominance in a few hands. These limitations on capitalism have made America the richest nation in the world.

When one company is free to dominate a market innovation dies. Who do you know who still uses Internet Explorer outside of work? I don’t know anybody and haven’t for years. Microsoft became big, fat and lazy. They engaged in anti-competitive behavior by bundling I.E. in with Windows. They drove Netscape out the market. They were sued all over the developed world for anti-competitive behavior. The Mozilla Group jumped in and built FireFox, a far superior browser. Then Google jumped in and made an even better browser. Capitalism must be regulated. The invisible hand of the marketplace often leads to monopoly and stagnation as well as lax safety protections for consumers. A mixed economy, the American model, I think os the best way to go.

Continuing, the problem now is that capitalism is global. The owners and the labor force are both global which drives down the negotiating power of wage earners. Consolidation is advancing rapidly on a global level. Think about how many banks have been bought up in the last twenty-five years. It is harder to make a living now no matter how high your education level save in a very few areas of specialization. I see no end to this problem. I witnessed the same phenomena overseas in the Republic of Korea. all of the advanced countries are seeing global corporations moving jobs to countries with cheaper labor. There are cities now in China where Japanese is spoke because of the prevalence of outsourced jobs being held by Chinese workers with Japanese bosses.

Republican, funded by the Chamber of Commerce will continue their support of outsourcing and continue to demand that American companies who outsource our jobs receive tax breaks. It is amazing how fickle and unsophisticated so many American voters are. Why would you support a party which is demanding tax cuts for the people who are outsourcing your jobs? The Republican Party and the Koch brothers funded Tea Party have bamboozled a lot of naive people. Unfortunately we will all continue to suffer the consequences of their lack of awareness of their real economic and political interest.

Paul Westlake said:
That had less to do with his grades then his loyalties. Kerry was a C student, too, and I think we both agree he would have done a much better job. If our educational institutions were equally capable of providing a quality education, I would agree. But having seen first-hand – 15 secondary schools, 4 colleges, 2 technical schools, and one state-certified teachers license – I know that isn’t the case, and that many Americans really have mostly their own agency to thank for their education. I was a mostly c student through sophomore year of high school. And then I poured it on. But it was me making the decision, not the school – though I do give the high school I graduated from a lot of credit for offering a more diverse and stimulating education than any of my previous schools, save one. I let the educational background go and pay closer attention to the ideas they espouse now. It’s not hard to know when the logic adds up and when it doesn’t. And even the most highly educated can still be prone to serious errors of judgment. I care more about what they know and think now than anything else.

Instructors and parents can make a big difference. I remember making a C on a freshman high school math exam. My mother had a fit. She was a teacher. She got me a math tutor and a month later I was in a provate high school. She took on a second job. Parental expectations and those of instructors can, but not always make a difference.

Ms.Madd-cow, the argument against Obimbo hasn’t changed. It just as valid in 2010 as it was in 2008. White people don’t fear Obimbo, we have come to fully recognize his neo-socialist agenda and we don’t like it. The only thing scary is your Liberal Obama butt-kissing rhetoric.

Anna Warren said:
In the video, the man can be seen ripping up signs and verbally assaulting a group of people assembled not far from Perriello’s headquarters. He especially hones in on a black female Hurt supporter, who he calls a “sellout” and a “f****** black b****“ and asks how she can associate with ”racist-a** white people.“ He then goes on to call the group and the woman the ”N” word.

The profanity and rage are remarkable. And according to the video’s narrator, police nearby did not intervene.

Yes, there are nuts and people who over react on both sides. Let’s highlight them and suggest they are typical because it’s good political strategy even though it’s dishonest.
I liked the commentary as the narrator said “they have no evidence of us doing this but we have evidence of what they do all the time”
He evidently missed the video of that Paul supporter stomping on a woman on the ground.

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GlennBeckReview DID NOT say:
“Most of the progressive Dems will get re-elected because they represent ultra liberal districts who vote for the farthest left candidate. That is why most of the longest serving people in Congress come from these districts, people blindly re-elect the far left liberal over and over again.”

Teb says:
“Yes, this Glen Beck Review guy is correct.”

Teb, you sleazy bastard. Anyone can look up this line of comments to see that you purposely misquoted me.
Teb, than makes you a sleazy liar. (Glenn Beck, btw, has done the same sleazy thing to Thomas Jefferson. You learn well Ass Hopper.

What I actually wrote was, “My progressive Congressman is considered safe, but the blue dog in the next district over is not. Most pundits see Congress becoming more divided because moderate Dems are being defeated by reactionary Republicans. Most of the progressive Dems will get re-elected because they represent urban, more sophisticated constituents.”

Teb, pretending to undermine Ted, you’re just another Breitbart, and that’s not a complement.

FearMonger says:
“Wow dude. I didn’t think it was possible but CONGRATULATIONS GBR! You just topped yourself! You suck EVEN WORSE than I thought you did! Good Job!

You are no different from Alan Grayson yet you try to pass yourself off as some balanced arbiter of truth. What a effing joke!”

Wow dude; I’m supposed to take seriously any criticism from a sock puppet named “fear monger?” Plllease, get real. You, with your ugly avatar, jumped up and down and chewed me out but wrote nothing that countered my claim.

What party fought the establishment of Social Security tooth and nail? Republicans
What party wanted to privatize Social Security this century? Republicans
What party would have been responsible for senior citizens losing their savings in the market crash? Republicans.
What party would have been responsible for senior citizens then having toeat pet food to stave off starvation? Republicans.

When will you right wingers accept the fact that the Republican Party is the party of Corporate fat cats who operate on one principle (greed)?

Fear monger, refute my claims. Acting like a child does your case (you have a case?) no good.

GlennBeckReview said:
Fear monger, refute my claims. Acting like a child does your case (you have a case?) no good

Oh yes… refute your claims that (R)’s want to make Grandma eat dog food. Screw you ya’ nasty fuck. Like I said, you’re no different from Grayson…. except that you may be EVEN MORE ignorant.

Funny YOU insulting sock puppets….lmfao!

btw… good job to you and all like you for your assistance in returning the republic to sanity last night.

Thanks for your help.

FearMonger says:
“Screw you ya’ nasty fuck.”

Tell us there Sock Puppet: what grade are you in? What the hell is wrong with reactionaries? They can’t win any arguments, so they resort to adolescent name calling.

Yes, you’re a sock puppet. My name is well known. You’d know it too if you had a modicum of curiosity.

FearMonger says:
“lmfao!”

So that leaves you with 8 fingers and two thumbs to type with, right?

You think I’m ignorant? I’d be more than happy to take a side by side civics exam with you and put money on who gets the higher grade. (Well, not more than happy as I’d have to have a cloths pin on my nose if we sat too near each other.)

The Real Royal King said:
Republicans are embracing fear of men in turbans.

Not all of them, just the ones that want to kill us!

GlennBeckReview said:
I’d have to have a cloths pin on my nose if we sat too near each other

GlennBeckReview said:
I’d be more than happy to take a side by side civics exam with you and put money on who gets the higher grade

And I’m the one who’s childish. Right GBR. Just as astute as the rest of your observations.

GlennBeckReview said:
You, with your ugly avatar

If I was as childish as you…. a person who calls another person “STINKY”…. I might say something like “takes one to know one” about the above quote.

FearMonger says:
“And I’m the one who’s childish. ”

Yes, “Fear Monger” with your ugly and creepy avatar: you are very childish. Adults don’t use the language you use and think that they’re winning an argument. Children do, very poorly behaved children.

You and Notsofast should be banned from posting comments here. You drag conversations down to primitive level.

BTW, stating that I could do better on a civics exam than you was not an “observation.” It was a challenge and a wager. D’ Oh!

GlennBeckReview said:
BTW, stating that I could do better on a civics exam than you was not an “observation.” It was a challenge and a wager. D’ Oh!

What part of ‘just as astute the rest of your observations’ don’t you understand?

GlennBeckReview said:
You drag conversations down to primitive level.

Still better than

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Wow, FM. You suck at this.

Paul Westlake says:
“Wow, FM. You suck at this.”

Obviously, like most reactionaries, FM is not very bright (or informed at all).

I wonder what grade of elementary school this sock puppet dropped out.

I have to give credit where credit is due: sock puppet Fear Monger has that copy and paste business down pat.

FM: your parents must be so proud!

Wow. You guys are too funny. Call me ‘childish’ as you make snarky comments like bitchy little schoolgirls.

Notsofast and myself should be banned, huh? First of all…. who gives a shit? I actually have a life GBR so… Mediaite is last on my daily list and at 5PM when you are glued to the GB program, I’m usually TCB out here in the real world. I would say “Get a life GBR” but but but…. I know you’ve heard it so many times that there’s no point in repeating it….. you won’t.

Secondly, par for the course that you leftwing hypocrites would call for me to be banned but but but….. not make a peep about BFD, shootfromthehip, Jackie Treehorn, Iris, Jelperman etc etc etc.

GlennBeckReview said:
You drag conversations down to primitive level.

Indeed. Know thyself you obsessed prepubescent stalker.

FearMonger says:
“Notsofast and myself should be banned, huh?”

Pretty much, yeah. You contribute nothing of substance and issue insults at those of us to the left of Ganghis Kahn

And I mean really petty, cruel adolescent kinds of insults.

Copy and paste, copy and paste….C’mon sock puppet: show us what you’re made of (more insults, no substance).

GlennBeckReview said:
You contribute nothing of substance

Yeah, I know. Like saying your side wants Grandma to eat dog food.

Like I said GBR….. (you too Paul)…… I fully encourage you to keep up the good work. You are performing a vital service for This Great Country and her political course. The ship of state is right on track and you deserve mucho credit for your role in making it so.

Thanks again!

FearMonger said:
Yeah, I know. Like saying your side wants Grandma to eat dog food.

Like I said GBR….. (you too Paul)…… I fully encourage you to keep up the good work. You are performing a vital service for This Great Country and her political course. The ship of state is right on track and you deserve mucho credit for your role in making it so.

Thanks again!

Don’t you ever get tired of being a shill? GBR has more substance in his punctuation than you do in your entire fucking family legacy. And Mediaite is a fun place and all, but it’s hardly the center of America’s “political course.” I know it feels good to think you’re the BMOC at the center of the political universe, but you aren’t and this isn’t. Calm the fuck down. LOL!

DeceitfulFearMonger says:
“Yeah, I know. Like saying your side wants Grandma to eat dog food.”

Actually, you’re lying. It’s not that you remember it wrong, it’s right above us on this story board. You’re just flat-out trying to deceive readers (both of us). Here’s what I wrote, “the truth” in response to:

Sidhekitten says:
“So Republicans are supposed to be scaring white people. Hmmmmm
So what is it when Democrats say that Republicans want to take Grandma’s social security and make her eat dog food.”

Make her eat dog food is not “want her” to eat dog food. Corporate sponsored Republicans don’t want to have the elderly eating dog food; it’s just the upshot of the policies that the corporations will have them pass as laws. Luckily for the old people, the President will veto their reactionary legislation, at least the dog food parts.

Fear Monger; give up. Westlake is right; you’re not in the same league or the same level of maturity.

Wow. Tell me again who’s ‘lying’….

Sidhekitten said:
So what is it when Democrats say that Republicans want to take Grandma’s social security and make her eat dog food.

GlennBeckReview said:
The truth

_______________________

Now you say…..

GlennBeckReview said:
Make her eat dog food is not “want her” to eat dog food.

Wow.
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Not surprising that your comprehension of the written word is twisted. You want to call me ‘deceitful’ and Paul wants to vouch for you so lets just see who sees things clearly and who does not.

“So what is it when Democrats say that Republicans WANT to (take Grandma’s social security) and make her eat dog food”

To which YOU said “The truth”.

Like I’ve asked you before GBR….. what part don’t you understand? Moving goalposts is one thing but to call me a liar … not to mention Paul insulting my entire family….. is just too damned funny when it’s obvious for anyone here to see.

I mean seriously, did you even read what you wrote? I’ll post it again just so you don’t have to scroll to the top of this post. What a ridiculous thing to say……

GlennBeckReview said:
Make her eat dog food is not “want her” to eat dog food.

“want to make her eat dog food” means exactly what it says asshole. You are the deceitful lying POS revisionist here and it’s clear for anyone to see.

And thanks again Paul, for verifying EXACTLY what you see as truthful commentary.

As for this….

Paul Westlake said:
Calm the fuck down. LOL!

Once again you prove yourself to be a terrible interpreter of reality. Read my post again Paul and then please point out to me the part where I need to ‘calm down’…. lmfao! Your comprehension is in the same category with GBR. Congrats to you both!

You’re a sad projectionist Paul. How many times now have you promised to NOT respond to my posts? Yet you chime in every time you see me. This time you shill for GBR who has just proven EXACTLY why he can’t be trusted to interpret SHIT as he completely backtracked and tried to unring his “truth” bell.

Hmmmm, backtracking…. changing context…. selective editing/ interpretation. Like I said, par for the course for BOTH OF YOU. Go watch some more Olberman/ Schultz/ Maddow/ Mattews and, by all means, don’t forget your daily dose of kool-aid.

One more time…. just for giggles….

GlennBeckReview said:
Make her eat dog food is not “want her” to eat dog food.

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!! I would say “Nice try GBR” except that IT WASN’T! ….. R – O – T – F – L – M – F – A – O!

Good grief, you guys are a HOOT!

GlennBeckReview said:
Fear Monger; give up. Westlake is right; you’re not in the same league or the same level of maturity.

a HOOT i say!!!

FearMonger said:
How many times now have you promised to NOT respond to my posts?

I have never promised not to respond to your posts and I have no intention of doing so now. I will respond to whatever posts I care to respond to as I see fit, unless the managers of Mediaite show me the door.

You think you can put words in people’s mouths and then call them the revisionists? FM, you’re losing it. You’re not even a good sophist anymore. I mean, sure, once you presented a bit of a challenge, but now, you just fall back into lies and hysterical fantasies. What a pathetic waste.

As to “dog food.” Yeah, Republicans would rather see grandma eat dog food than challenge their purist supply-side orthodoxy. I’m not afraid to say it, because it’s fucking true. Why don’t you wake the fuck up? Good lord, man. Your ideology is dismantling the world around you, right before your very eyes, and you proudly and triumphantly charge like a lemming off a giant cliff of bullshit anyway. What a fucking total waste you are.

Paul Westlake said:
Calm the fuck down. LOL!

Geez you hypocrites are all alike. Tell me again who needs to ‘calm down’ Paul.

GBR put the words in his OWN mouth when he said “The truth”. I simply called him out on it. The rest is clearly visible. Just because your twisted view doesn’t allow you to see the truth does not mean that others can’t see it.

Again tho… thanks for the verification. ;o)

byw…. you did indeed ‘promise’ not to respond to my posts anymore. Even on this thread you said you only engage me when my comments are directed at you but but but…. you jumped right in on this little feud between myself and GBR, now didn’t you?

Short memories and dipshit ideology…. a bad combination.

I don’t really care about those particulars. My comment spoke for itself – GBR’s comments are more substantive than yours almost all the time, by such a degree that you’re not even in the same league, let alone the same playing field. And if at some point I was convinced GBR was wrong about something, I would still wager it was more “substantive” than anything you can muster. That was my contribution in total on this one. When I jumped in on the dog food issue, it was because I felt like it. Just like every other time I comment here.

FearMonger said:
byw…. you did indeed ‘promise’ not to respond to my posts anymore. Even on this thread you said you only engage me when my comments are directed at you…

You must be referring to this:

Paul Westlake said:
So, you’ll excuse me when I completely ignore the vast majority of your comments to me, given your demonstrable sophistry and incessant condescension.

Where in this sentence do you see a promise not to respond to your comments anymore, or a statement that I ONLY respond to your comments directed at me? Hmm? Did it not occur to you that “when” is at MY discretion? Do you not know that “vast majority” could mean both the majority of individual comments, as well as the majority of the text within each comment? Is English you second language? I know you think anyone who disagrees with you is either an idiot or doesn’t understand how to use English, but you actually have both conditions. You keep thanking me for things I haven’t given you. You’re a very strange person.

“but but but… wah!”

Paul Westlake said:
As to “dog food.” Yeah, Republicans would rather see grandma eat dog food than challenge their purist supply-side orthodoxy. I’m not afraid to say it, because it’s fucking true. Why don’t you wake the fuck up? Good lord, man. Your ideology is dismantling the world around you, right before your very eyes, and you proudly and triumphantly charge like a lemming off a giant cliff of bullshit anyway. What a fucking total waste you are.

But it’s us rightwingers who are the ‘fearmongers’, right Paul? You’ve been raging all over this thread and truly making a fool of yourself hurling insults and claiming that you are smarter than the rest of us common folk. Sounds mighty familiar to me as that is EXACTLY what these leftwing douchebags say day in and day out about the heart and soul of America.

It’s all over the place…. from our Prez to the dumbfuck freshman college student who thinks he knows every friggin’ thing and votes straight (D) ticket. Some of the smartest people I know never went to college a day in their lives. I myself could not afford a 4 year school so I got an AD in EMS. I was a paramedic for 10 years before I messed up my knee and had to quit. How many lives have you ever saved Paul? I lost count at 20.

I’ve volunteered at the local shelter, delivered meals-on-wheels, fundraised for the Salvation Army. Most of the people at my church have done much the same…. not to mention spent countless hours mentoring youth and assisting the elderly in our community. We help everyone…. tall/ short, white/ black, gay/straight, atheist /zealot. RWE/ LWE, (D) or (R). Everybody in our community knows where to go if they are in need.

Now you sit here and chastise me as a blind idiot because I believe that the government shouldn’t have shit to do with what Grandma does (or does not) eat. Truth be told, Grandma could afford whatever diet she chooses if the government had let her keep more of her hard earned money throughout her years as a productive member of American society but but but….. even if she ain’t got a dime she ain’t gotta worry about eating ALPO .

People like me out here in This Great Country don’t let people starve Paul. You would know that if you weren’t yourself blinded by ideology.

In fact, myself and people like me are the first to step up when there is an ACTUAL need. We provide fish for those who can’t fish for themselves but but but….. we damned sure expect everyone who is ABLE to fish to do their share and all we need from the government is for them to butt out.

What did people do before SS Paul? Did they eat dog food? Or did families and communities and churches hold each other up?

So you keep trying to scare people into believing that the goverment is the only one who will be there for them and telling people like me who ACTUALLY SERVE their community that we are crazy for believing that it is YOU… the enablers and entitlement promoters… who are driving This Great Country off the cliff.

btw …. your Chicken Little routine is pathetic. Please calm the fuck down LOL!

Paul Westlake said:
You must be referring to this:

No. Actually, I was referring to THIS…..

Paul Westlake said:
I’m not arrogant enough to believe I have a right to police the way you communicate with others. But I do have a right to take whatever issue I like with the way you communicate with me. I think that’s fair. You think that’s (insert absurd reactionary buzzword here).

and Paul. If you keep insisting that I prove you wrong then I will do it. The next time I have tiome I will comb through the old threads and find at least TWO times where you said you would NOT respond to my comments any more.

Just ask me nicely and I’ll prove once again that, like Olbermann, you can’t remember the BS you’ve said from one day to the next.

FearMonger said:
But it’s us rightwingers who are the ‘fearmongers’, right Paul?

You chose the name.

FearMonger said:
People like me out here in This Great Country don’t let people starve Paul. You would know that if you weren’t yourself blinded by ideology.

Who’s talking about people? This is about conservative policy.

FearMonger said:
In fact, myself and people like me are the first to step up when there is an ACTUAL need.

I’ve done my share of first responding, too. So what?

FearMonger said:
So you keep trying to scare people into believing that the goverment is the only one who will be there for them…

No, conservatives want to bring back the patronage system that allows the already rich to pick the winners and leave the losers to charity. Liberals want a level playing field that enables people to succeed by the merit of their ideas, and that requires government of the people to be directed toward serving the people, including social safety nets, because unchecked private power and wealth will only continue to accrue more power and wealth to itself, leaving the scraps to the rest, whereas democratic governments, no matter how big, can still be voted out, as we just saw, despite dire warnings of leftist fascism. Pretty simple, really. But all you care about is…

FearMonger said:
enablers and entitlement promoters

…without understanding a lick about why anything was created in the first place – like the need for consumers to have money to spend in an economy based on consumer spending in order for business to have enough customers to survive and grow more jobs, and that in an economic death-spiral, only daddy government has the financial heft to keep the wheels of industry moving. The corporate elite know this but use the crisis to extract even more concessions that create even faster business cycles and deeper recessions each time. And then along comes the next band of gullible conservatives eagerly lapping up the slop doled out by corporate elitists and their GOP henchmen that the lack of jobs is due to lazy welfare queens (who don’t really exist in reality, at least in the way and numbers conservatives imagine), greedy unions (that have been on an historic decline for thirty years), and illegal immigrants (who must be forcing American employers to hire them at gunpoint or something). I’d like to see you bring a few real world facts next time you want to vent your spleen at me.

You’re as unsubstantial as your talking points, which was my point all along. But you are a laugh riot, FM. Really funny-ha-ha.

You’re kidding, right. The comment you were referring to when you said this…

FearMonger said:
byw…. you did indeed ‘promise’ not to respond to my posts anymore. Even on this thread you said you only engage me when my comments are directed at you…

…is this?

FearMonger said:
Paul Westlake said:
I’m not arrogant enough to believe I have a right to police the way you communicate with others. But I do have a right to take whatever issue I like with the way you communicate with me. I think that’s fair. You think that’s (insert absurd reactionary buzzword here).

Seriously, bro. Get a grip. There are still no promises here, either, or indications that I won’t address any of your comments but the ones directed toward me. What part of the word “police” do you not understand? I was talking about your condescending attitude when I used the word “police,” which is why I don’t fight that battle for others. But when it comes to substance, that’s a whole different story, and I have never said that I wouldn’t offer my observations on your worthlessness in another context. You talk a pretty good game sometimes, FM. This isn’t one of those times. :P

FearMonger said:
and Paul. If you keep insisting that I prove you wrong then I will do it. The next time I have tiome I will comb through the old threads and find at least TWO times where you said you would NOT respond to my comments any more.
Just ask me nicely and I’ll prove once again that, like Olbermann, you can’t remember the BS you’ve said from one day to the next.

OK. Tell me then Paul… who does THIS sound like?

“This is the last time I’m pointing out your sophistry because I honestly ran out of patience.”

I guess it just depends on what your definition of the word ‘last’ is. Just like GBR, the accuracy of your adamantly stated ‘facts’ is a joke.

Thanks for the laugh Paul.

Just so there is NO MISTAKE, let me make very clear why you DKWTFYATA…..

Paul Westlake said:
Dude, cut out the “but but but” bullshit. Your condescending attitude is a non-starter. You better fucking believe I insulted the insult artists out here. You expect me to unilaterally disarm while you shove “but but but” down my throat with every post? Fuck you. I have more than demonstrated my fact-based analysis to you on multiple occasions. I have zero to prove here. I’m smarter than most of the conservatives commenting here. Yes. You better fucking believe it and I;m not shy about it. Yes, my comments, on the whole, are generally smarter, better educated, better informed, and fairer in editorial than absolutely every single comment from a conservative I’ve seen on these boards – without exception, without one, single exception. Not one conservative has ever proven a point they tried to make to me here, not one, not ever, not once, you included. You may THINK you have, but haven’t – not even close, not ever. So, you’ll excuse me when I completely ignore the vast majority of your comments to me, given your demonstrable sophistry and incessant condescension.
Got it? Good.

sophistry sophistry blah blah blah. Rich stuff coming from the most hyper-partisan jeanyus in here. You wanna know something Paul?…. I went back and checked your comments for the ‘condescension’ you project onto me and BIG SURPRISE!! Your posts are chock-full-of-it. A wide array of targets and a broad range of insults.

I guess being so smart is a heavy cross to bear. Thank you for doing it so gracefully Paul. You too GBR. And of course, let’s not forget ARMWOOD. I’m glad that, like our Prez, you don’t condescend to us bitter-clingers. We probably wouldn’t recognize it anyway through all our hate/ ignorance/ stoopidity.

Y’all set a fine example for us po foke who never made it to cahledge. We reely shood aspire to be more like y’all.

FearMonger says:
“I guess being so smart is a heavy cross to bear.”

FearMonger says:
“I guess being so smart is a heavy cross to bear.”

Key word here is “guess.” You have to guess, sock-puppet, because there is nothing that you’ve ever written here that shows you have any first hand experience with being smart.

Actually, you’re being pretty obviously — like Glenn Beck — anti-intellectual.

I think that there is a place for common sense and conservative views. They help keep the country to the center. Unfortunately, now is not the time for the center. The conservatives lost that position when they drove the car into the ditch to use Obama’s metaphor.

Because of the fear-mongering and deceitful claims that have bounced around the right wing echo chamber, American fell for the lies coming from the right and just voted for gridlock and impeachment. You, fear-monger, are part of the problem and have nothing (but more lies and fear-mongering) to offer.

You are free to your opinions: you are not free to make up your own facts.

This began when I pointed out that anti-Social Security policies could well lead to greater poverty for our most vulnerable, the elderly. Can we all agree that having old people eating pet food is not a good thing?

GlennBeckReview said:
Key word here is “guess.” You have to guess, sock-puppet, because there is nothing that you’ve ever written here that shows you have any first hand experience with being smart.

I was almost done with my response when we had a power surge and my post got zapped. Now that I re-read what you wrote it’s just as well. Mine was much more diplomatic than you deserve so…. I’ll have to write a new one the next time I have time.

For now, let me just say that I’m glad to be ‘part of the problem’ if that means I’m part of the newly wide-awake American electorate who just handed this administration their well deserved rebuke. The more people that examine government policies and are engaged the process, the more hopeful I am about the future of This Great Country.

You’re constant drumbeat of ‘nothing to offer but blah blah blah’ applies to you leftwingers. I haven’t heard anything coming from you except attempts to scare folks (like you and Paul saying (R)’s will force them to eat dog food) and that BIG government is the soution to all problems. Nothing of substance. Nada.

Oh wait, I forgot about the chorus of arrogant jerks who think they are smarter than everybody else. THAT has been heard loud and clear and it comes ONLY from the left. Big surprise that those stoopid independents flocked to vote (R), if only to send the (unreceived) message that the (D) need to take their hijacked party back from leftwing zealots.

“(R)’s are the spawn of satan….. not to mention ignorant racists” is a great platform GBR. Keep workin’ it!

Oh btw….

GlennBeckReview said:
Can we all agree that having old people eating pet food is not a good thing?

You lefties are the only ones accusing the other side of wanting to make Grandma eat dog food. Got it?

‘facts’ indeed. What you ‘offer’ is a ridiculous joke and nothing but BS scare tactics GBR. Just like I said, you and Grayson (and Paul) are the real fearmongers. “(R)’s HC Plan is DIE QUICKLY”, right?

This administration forced through an unconstitutional law mandating that everyone buy something that they may or may not want…. and you all applaude. The Prez adamantly states the “FACT” that it is absolutely NOT a tax. How’s that working out?

Your side tries to equate it with purchasing car insurance…. but but but… the comparison is ludicrous. This is still a free Country and nobody is forced to drive a car.

like I said, “facts” indeed. This is the BS your side ‘offers’.

back later………………

FearMonger says:
“For now, let me just say that I’m glad to be ‘part of the problem’ if that means I’m part of the newly wide-awake American electorate who just handed this administration their well deserved rebuke.”

Of course you are. You’re a reactionary who wants Obama to fail, not matter what the consequences to the country or the elderly.

I asked, “Can we all agree that having old people eating pet food is not a good thing?”

All we got from you is finger pointing suggesting that old people eating dog food is fine with you. Still waiting for you to write otherwise.

Then, as if you know anything other than what the propagandists on the right tell you to think, you argue: “This administration forced through an unconstitutional law mandating that everyone buy something that they may or may not want….”

The health care mandate may or may not be Constitutional. It’s not up to you to say it is or is not; that’s what we have a SCOTUS for.

Then your flat out blatant false claim: “and you all applaude.”

No, I opposed the mandate all along. I understand why it is needed, but I am not for it.

Got any other assumptions that make an ass out of you?

(I’m sure you do, and you won’t let this go until you “win” the argument. The reason the left is the side “accusing the other side of wanting to make Grandma eat dog food” is because the pro-Wall St. right sure isn’t going to point out how privitizing Social Security will wipe out retirement savings if SS is invested in Wall St. Then, the rich will get richer and the elderly will eat dog food.

Fact is, Fox has been scaring the white people with their bogus stories for 20 months. ACORN, Van Jones and the New Black Panthers are trumped up, non stories that Fox has used to scare there white, older audience.

I can’t wait to read your next assault upon reason.

Actually, lying FearMonger, you can have the last word. Your assault on reason is getting tedious. Feel free to throw a temper tantrum.

We don’t want your fear. We don’t want your ugly f#$king avatar.

Oh, before I close this window (No Fear Monger, I don’t care what your come-back is), I just want to point out the crude irony of a FearMonger accusing others of fear-mongering.

What’s it like living in Lalaland?

GlennBeckReview said:
Of course you are. You’re a reactionary who wants Obama to fail, not matter what the consequences to the country or the elderly.

lmao! And then the nerve to lecture about ‘assumptions’….

GlennBeckReview said:
Got any other assumptions that make an ass out of you?

wow. you really are deluded and totally oblivious to your own hypocrisy.
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GlennBeckReview said:
Then, the rich will get richer and the elderly will eat dog food.

Right….. and CONSERVATIVES are the fearmongers. lmfao! You guys are friggin’ hilarious!
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GlennBeckReview said:
We don’t want your fear. We don’t want your ugly f#$king avatar.

Judging from what I’ve seen, you must be talking about yourself. I’m glad that you and Paul (that’s the “we” you were talkin’ about, right?) agree with each other…. it’s fitting. You are peas in a pod and you both deserve exactly what you get.

Keep up the good work GBR and don’t forget to keep pushing the whole ‘scared old dumb white racist” narrative…. just like your pompous POS partners like Maddow and Olber….. oops….. forgot….. let me see….

Didn’t I hear a lil’ somethin’ somethin’ about that douche? Hmmmm….. perfect timing.

http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/05/keith-olbermann-is-as-ethical-as-he-is-emotionally-stable/

lmao! Seriously…. ROTFLMFAO!!!!! If his name wasn’t in the title of that article I’d say it could well have been about YOU GBR!

I’m sure you won’t have anything to say about that….. not to mention it’s 5PM EST and you-know-who (the guy who is STILL on the air) just came on.

Good thing you’re not KOR or you’d have no object for your obsession! lolololol

FearMonger said:
lmao! And then the nerve to lecture about ‘assumptions’….

That’s not an “assumption,” moron. It’s a demonstrable fact based on your repeated comments all over the Mediaite boards, and no I’m not going to waste my time hunting them all down. It’s as obvious as your tired rhetoric.

FearMonger said:
Right….. and CONSERVATIVES are the fearmongers. lmfao! You guys are friggin’ hilarious!

Yes, because elderly people eating dog food has actually happened in America in the past, and soup kitchens, right now, are filling more and more with educated people who used to earn six figures but have been out of work for years now, or had their own businesses that folded in the Bush Bust and haven’t been able to get back into the workforce. Whereas a Community Center in lower Manhattan is NOT a terrorist training center, health care reform is NOT socialism or “creeping statism” in the slightest, Obama is NOT a black-power extremist, a Muslim terrorist sympathizer, a Manchurian candidate, or a voodoo wielding witch doctor with an America-hating wife, and liberals are NOT un-American traitors, hell-bent on creating a one-world dictatorship… for instance.

FearMonger said:
You are peas in a pod and you both deserve exactly what you get.

You’re the dipshit that just sold out your own economic interests to the corporate frauds posing as Tea Party patriots. Only Rand Paul is stupid enough to filibuster raising the debt ceiling and throwing America into default for the first time in history, thereby plunging the entire global economy into chaos and crashing the value of the dollar to something like tenths of the value of the Peso. Can you say Germany 1923?

As usual, you have ZERO facts to offer. Just epithets and deep-dish servings of stoopid. And kid, you don’t know fear yet. The corporate-ruled, survival-of-the-fittest, libertarian dystopia to come is your own creation, tool. But by the time you realize that your own judicial activists, who gave us CU v. FEC, sold you down the river to corporate power and corruption, and permanent Republican majorities don’t look like such hot idea anymore, it will be far, far too late. If nothing is done about CU v. FEC, the Democratic party will cease to exist in three to five election cycles. I’m sure you think that’s totally fucking awesome right now. But you won’t then. And we’ll be gone – dead or exiled. So enjoy that new America you’re creating – I’m sure you’ll make an excellent cog in that machine. In fact, it’s exactly what you deserve.

Paul Westlake said:
And we’ll be gone – dead or exiled. So enjoy that new America you’re creating – I’m sure you’ll make an excellent cog in that machine. In fact, it’s exactly what you deserve.

Wow. To use the words of a resident jeanyus….”Calm the fuck down!”

So…. are we in agreement that you leftwingers are the true fearmongers? I think you’ve conceded that….

Paul Westlake said:
throwing America into default for the first time in history, thereby plunging the entire global economy into chaos and crashing the value of the dollar to something like tenths of the value of the Peso. Can you say Germany 1923?

Geez Paul, you should have climbed out of that basement and gone to bed….. or do you have a mattress on the floor in the basement?

btw…. your prejudiced, chock-full-o-stereotypes rant above doesn’t represent me or any other conservative that I know. In fact, I don’t belive ANY of those ridiculous things. The fact that YOU have such a twisted view of the right speaks volumes about you Paul. It helps explains why you are so angry and combative.

I know, I know….. I post hateful, insulting shit too. You’re right, I do. But but but….. here’s the big difference between us Paul. I don’t insult your intelligence or the intelligence of the left in general. I believe that you all are completely misguided and wrong on most issues but I have never asked ‘in what grade did you drop out of elementary school’ or other such nonsense.

That’s EXACTLY why the American people just did what they did. They gave you guys a chance… this Prez had sky-high approval and mucho optimism behind him. Then he (and so many other arrogant leftwingers) started talking down to the people. Bill Maher’s “Drag them to it” comment says it all.

The lesson that you should have learned from this is “We Know What’s Best For You” don’t fly in these parts. Judging from your “I’m Smarter Than You” attitude I’d have to say that YOU, Paul, have not learned a thing.

and btw…. once again you jumped in when I was replying to GBR. It’s cool. Just wanted you to recognize. No comment about this?

FearMonger said:
“This is the last time I’m pointing out your sophistry because I honestly ran out of patience.”

FearMonger said:
and btw…. once again you jumped in when I was replying to GBR. It’s cool. Just wanted you to recognize. No comment about this?

“This is the last time I’m pointing out your sophistry because I honestly ran out of patience.”

I’ll specify whether or not I’m bothering to continue the current conversation or abstaining from commenting on your sophistry at any point in the future from now on. K?

I’m ignoring you in this thread now. [Disclaimer: I reserve the privilege to demolish your idiocy in other threads and/or venues, at any, as yet undetermined, time in the future, as I may see fit, and for any purpose I may deem suitable, for as long as the applicable venues (such as Mediaite) continue to allow.]

Yeah. I know. You are an ‘idiocy destroyer’ (and a prolific one). You contradict yourself on every thread…. sometimes managing to do it all in one post! Congratulations on your ability to prove your jeanyus as a destroyer of idiocy by placing yourself in the same category as Olbermann, who constantly (adamantly) claims that he ‘never said’ the stupid shit that he very well DID say.

and btw…. you can call this ‘sophistry’ if you want but but but….. it’s absolutely true. You know it, too. In fact, I’d be willing to bet it describes your attitude quite accurately.

FearMonger said:
It’s pretty obvious (and no great surprise) that the leftwingers…. including (especially) the Prez….. are going to make their usual excuses…. “The People are mad/ confused/ ignorant/ hateful. We didn’t explain our ideas so that the commoners could understand…. after all… it’s complicated.”
And of course…. my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE….. “We weren’t liberal enough”.

Paul Westlake said:
Rachel is my MSNBC hero.

Here’s a little something for you. She’s just as clear-thinking, honest and accurate as you are Paul.

Rachel Maddow Blasts Fox from her Glass House at MSNBC!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txjXBx9-2c0&feature=player_embedded