Ben Shapiro Absolutely Nukes the ‘Woke Right’ as Conspiracy Theorists Who Can’t Handle ‘Personal Responsibility’

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Conservative pundit and longtime podcaster Ben Shapiro joined Coleman Hughes on his Free Press podcast on Monday to discuss a range of topics, including the rise of the so-called “woke right.”

“People on what is called the “woke right” by some now that like to blame everything on, you know, the military industrial complex or global Jewry, this kind of thing—these are people that have a fundamentally grievance-based relationship to Western society. It’s just that the enemies are different,” Hughes noted at one point during the conversation.

“That’s exactly right. I mean, on the right, it manifests as a lot of conspiracy theorizing. One of the things I talk about—it even manifests everywhere—as a sort of conspiracy theory,” Shapiro replied. Leading figures of the so-called “woke right” now include provocateurs like Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and Dave Smith. Owens worked for Shapiro’s The Daily Wire before the two had a very public split and she went solo.

“And traditional biblical religion is actually, in many ways, sort of the anti-conspiracy theory. So, if you think about paganism in its original form, it was the idea that, as Gloucester says in King Lear, ‘That the gods, you know, strike us down like flies for their sport.’ That is sort of the pagan ideology, and I would say the post-God ideology is that things happen randomly, bad things happen to good people,” Shapiro continued, adding:

You can’t control any of that. And then that is then projected into a conspiratorial idea that there must be forces beyond your reckoning who are out to get you. And you can see that in both right and left.

The biblical worldview is actually quite harsh. It basically says that if you fail, it’s probably your fault. There’s a God-centered, ordered universe. If you do the right things, good things will likely happen. If you do the wrong things, bad things will likely happen, right? It’s the entire book of Deuteronomy.

And so the movement away from personal responsibility and duty—that results in this very conspiratorial view of society in which, again, shadowy forces are out there and they’re manipulating you. And if you don’t understand that, it’s because you now have almost a Marxist false consciousness. That has to be opened up, you need to be blackpilled, you need to be awoken to the problems in society that you never spotted before. It turns out maybe America was on the wrong side of World War II, maybe the moon landing never happened.

Because the normal kind of response to this nonsense is to say, well, America seems like pretty awesome. You have all these grievances against America, but I mean, let’s face it, America kind of kicks ass. I mean we defeated the Nazis, we defeated the Soviets without firing a direct shot.

We have created the single most prosperous era in the history of humanity with the broadest spread of wealth in the history of human life—we’re kind of great. And so the answer to that from both sides is no, no, you’re totally misapprehending history. For one side it’s the 1619 project and then as some folks at Free Press have written, for others it’s a 1939 project.

Watch the clip above.