If he was supporting Obama he wasn’t supporting the right to begin with so why is this a surprise?

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, Mr. Sullivan. Was there any reasonable conservative who actually thought this guy was on our side? This was the most prominent member of the media to push the conspiracy theory that Sarah Palin had not actually given birth to her son, Trig, which had to be the most despicable personal attack I’d ever heard of.

Anyone who thinks Sullivan stills maintains integrity as a journalist should check out how he got his clock cleaned by Charles Krauthammer. It was such a brutal rebuke that Sullivan had to offer up an immediate apology. Oddly enough, this story was not covered by Mediaite.

Here’s a link: http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/1209/Sullivan_apologizes_to_Krauthammer.html?showall

WHO IS ANDREW SULLIVAN??? AND WHO CARES WHO HE IS??? If it wasn’t for Glenn Beck we wouldn’t know all the back handed things that Barrack Obama is doing.. I am a conservative and we are getting bigger and bolder!
So don’t let the door hit you in the butt as you are walking out the door Andrew whoever you are!

@teacher, I’m not even going to state the obvious regarding Glenn Beck and your screen name. Bigger and bolder? No, just smaller and LOUDER.

If you want to really get to know Andrew Sullivan…start here….it ain’t pretty…

http://www.villagevoice.com/2001-06-19/news/the-real-andrew-sullivan-scandal/1

Sullivan wouldn’t know a principle if it bought him a drink at The Copa.

I swear, I thought this was a satirical post at first. Who on the planet – and I mean those on the Left and the Right – thought of Sullivan as a Conservative?! I would not have even given him the RINO tag if pressed to pigeon-hole the man.

Read that post and tack Michael Moore’s name on it and it would produce yawns. Republicans should be careful or Chris Matthews and Media Matters will be the next to jump ship.

Who?

straitshooter wrote:

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, Mr. Sullivan.

I think what you meant to say is, “Don’t let the door hit you in your “power glutes” on the way out, Randy Andy.”

(WARNING: Link is Not Safe For Work. Sullivan, though, doesn’t care about being “safe.”)

Note to Glynnis MacNicol: Sullivan “leaving” the Right is like Rod Blagojevich “leaving” Illinois government.

Or like Charlie Weis “leaving” Notre Dame.

Or like Van Jones “leaving” the Obama Administration.

It’s the holiday season, Glynnis. Write to Santa Claus and ask him for a clue.

Andrew Sullivan is not a conservative? You find this surprising? This is like McDonald’s announcing that it isn’t a vegetarian restaurant. Get real, folks, Andrew Sullivan has always been out of touch with conservative philosophy.

And who can blame him for wanting to join up with Democrats? What could be more fun than associating with people who get to spend a trillion dollars they don’t have every few months? By comparison, it’s boring associating with conservatives, who just work hard, save money, raise their families and go to church on Sunday. Certainly no fun for someone like Andrew Sullivan, who likes more edgy excitement in his life….

I am enjoying this move to the sane side of the world by Sullivan – but I am astounded and pleased that LGF is coming to the fore and recognizing the Idiocracy promoting rightwing for what it is.

“5. Support for homophobic bigotry (see: Sarah Palin, Dobson, the entire religious right, etc.)

6. Support for anti-government lunacy (see: tea parties, militias, Fox News, Glenn Beck, etc.) ”

Indeed.

Andrew is a great writer and was a conservative I respected.

Now that he’s moved to the sane side of American politics maybe we can all accept the Republicans for the failed rump party they are and move on to solving the problems they created to start with.

Now Glynnis, just because Andrew Sullivan called himself conservative doesn’t make it true. I know there’s nothing better than to have an ostensible ideological opponent more or less affirm your own beliefs, a la David Brooks or Pat Caddell, but such characters often do so because of their own manifest irrelevance to the side they claim they’re on. If you possessed a significant understanding of the conservative blogosphere, you would know the right kicked Sullivan to the curb years ago (yes, even before his relentless encomiums to Obama and more recent derangement regarding Sarah Palin’s womb). Charles Johnson’s tendency to vituperatively smear anyone who disagrees with Charles Johnson (mostly his own commenters) as a religious fundamentalist or a fascist, often times both, has led to similar derision from truly influential conservative blogs like Ace of Spades, Hot Air, etc. for some time now. This article is yet another attempt by a liberal writer to affect the dispassionate political observer persona (cf. Sam Tanenhaus) and convince the reader that non-events like this are devastating to the right. Much like the Decline of Conservatism and the parade of covers announcing the end of the GOP on magazines such as Time and Newsweek, pieces like this fall well short of cogent, objective analysis and settle firmly into self-affirming inanity.

Bill Adkins cut-and-pasted Charles Johnson thusly:

5. Support for homophobic bigotry (see: Sarah Palin, Dobson, the entire religious right, etc.)

What “homophobic bigotry” is Sarah Palin guilty of, counselor? I would surmise that if Mr. Johnson doesn’t support Palin’s “homophobia,” he must reject that of the President and the Vice President, whom, you might remember, have an identical stance toward same-sex marriage as the then-Governor of Alaska.

It’s fun watching teabaggers get their knickers in a twist over these departures. It’s the equivalent of saying, that you didn’t like your girlfriend anyway, right after she dumps you. It’s really quite comical. Even if they didn’t wish to support this President, the fact that they recognized the self destruction going on with these lunatics is lost on the rest of you.

Ahh yes. The Primitives & Neanderthals here speak once more. The Tiny Tots. Instantly attaching their wretched lil minds to the latest bit of negativity/ignorance/hatred that comes down the pike. Little People who live in order to be TOLD what to do – and WHEN/HOW to do it. Those who inhabit the dark places of the American heart & soul. Joe Six-pack. Joe The Plumber. Crude. Uncouth. Uncultured. Uneducated. A blue-collar dream come true. Their vision now & forever limited by – the CURB HEIGHT. Yup!

Now who would have guessed that the nut jobs would attack Sullivan and side with…uh…the nut jobs…uh…okay, so it is predictable.

Glynnis – This piece has fallen well short of a cogent and objective analysis and is little more than self affirming inanity!!! SO STOP THE INANITY!!! (Are you still laughing?).

Pat Doherty wrote:

This article is yet another attempt by a liberal writer to affect the dispassionate political observer persona (cf. Sam Tanenhaus) and convince the reader that non-events like this are devastating to the right. Much like the Decline of Conservatism and the parade of covers announcing the end of the GOP on magazines such as Time and Newsweek, pieces like this fall well short of cogent, objective analysis and settle firmly into self-affirming inanity.

Amen. They’re continuing the strategies that worked so well for them during the 2008 campaign: Snowing you with a blizzard of declarations that everything is going their way, and that you can still catch the bandwagon if you start running right NOW!

To wit: Michael Grunwald of Time magazine of April 2, 2009 (bold, italics mine):

Two weeks before Election Day, Barack Obama’s campaign was mobilizing millions of supporters; it was a bit late to start rewriting get-out-the-vote (GOTV) scripts. “BUT, BUT, BUT,” deputy field director Mike Moffo wrote to Obama’s GOTV operatives nationwide, “What if I told you a world-famous team of genius scientists, psychologists and economists wrote down the best techniques for GOTV scripting?!?! Would you be interested in at least taking a look? Of course you would!!”

Moffo then passed along guidelines and a sample script from the Consortium of Behavioral Scientists, a secret advisory group of 29 of the nation’s leading behaviorists. The key guideline was a simple message: “A Record Turnout Is Expected.” That’s because studies by psychologist Robert Cialdini and other group members had found that the most powerful motivator for hotel guests to reuse towels, national-park visitors to stay on marked trails and citizens to vote is the suggestion that everyone is doing it. “People want to do what they think others will do,” says Cialdini, author of the best seller Influence. “The Obama campaign really got that.”

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1889153,00.html#ixzz0Yf40ywSu

So, in order to take the edge off Obama’s sinking approval numbers and skepticism of his ability to deal with vital problems facing the nation (and some polls that indicate independents are trending toward the GOP), people like our Ms. Glynnis are pretending that guys like Charles Johnson and Trig Palin-hating Andrew Sullivan were firmly ensconced in the right wing until they just couldn’t take it any more!!! and dragged themselves away with tears running down their cheeks faces.

The right will miss Johnson & Sullivan as much as it misses Sen. Arlen Specter (who, if pre-election polls are correct, will live up to his name in November 2010).

OH, MY GOD!!!! How WILL the party survive without this RINO creep? lmao! Pfftt!

roxsteady wrote:

It’s fun watching teabaggers get their knickers in a twist over these departures. It’s the equivalent of saying, that you didn’t like your girlfriend anyway, right after she dumps you. It’s really quite comical.

Which authentic conservatives are tearing their hair out about the official departure of Sullivan? Name ‘em.

Andrew who? Most powerful blogger? please…Attention starved loudmouth with a nasty disposition is all he is.

He doesn’t have near the weight or impact apparently a handful of folks here think he does.

Andrew Sullivan leaving the right is an epic statement. Yesterday’s conservatives are today’s moderates. Says a lot about how far-right the modern right-wing movement has gone.

Roxsteady….You should read what you write more closely, it’s hysterical. While trying to disparage conservatives by calling them “teabaggers” (a sexual reference made popular by MSNBC) did it ever occur to you that the one person who’s had more nuts in his mouth than a squirrel is Andrew Sullivan?

Now that’s just funny.

m wrote:

Andrew Sullivan leaving the right is an epic statement. Yesterday’s conservatives are today’s moderates. Says a lot about how far-right the modern right-wing movement has gone.

Au contraire. It shows how far the left the moderates have gone.

Look at Silly Sullivan, who once said that John Kerry was the fiscal conservative between him and to George W. Bush. Given the choice four years later between Obama and John McCain (who at least said he was fiscally responsible), he chose the spendthrift Obama. Right now, the Dems’ healthcare bill promises to cost taxpayers more in both medical care costs and taxes in the short term before the ballyhooed improvements are even SCHEDULED to take effect, and what does Andy spend his time doing? He’s poring over Palin’s book with a fine-tooth comb looking for “lies” — you know, the same Palin that supposedly “everyone” wishes would go away because she’ll never be elected.

Silly’s obsession with hating Palin is more pathological than it is for most liberals, who are just bleating and repeating lie after lie after lie about Palin’s life, record, and beliefs along with their ignorant friends. And among lefties, that makes him hot. He’ll never recover from that on the right, so he’s just doing what comes naturally to people who want to be paid for their opinions — finding his audience.

As far as I’m concerned, you can have Sullivan. You can read his breathless demands for Palin’s medical records to prove Trig is her son and not her daughter’s, and pretend that somehow that is ethically and morally superior to some right-wingers’ demands that Obama produce his original birth certificate.

Knock yourselves out.

Jim R says:
December 3, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Andrew is a great writer and was a conservative I respected.

In other words, a “Conservative” I agreed with… which logically means, not a Conservative.

Now that he’s moved to the sane side of American politics maybe we can all accept the Republicans for the failed rump party they are and move on to solving the problems they created to start with.

Yeah… it’s Sullivan’s “departure” that’s gonna do that. Riiiight.

roxsteady says:
December 3, 2009 at 3:54 pm

Who’s knickers are in a twist, exactly? It appears that nobody on the right knew or thought that this guy was “one of them.” So who cares?

As to the analogy, it would be more like a girl walking up to a guy and saying, “I’m sorry, but we have to break up.” And response heard, “We were dating?”

Nachi says:
December 3, 2009 at 4:00 pm

Is there anyone you DO like?

m says:
December 3, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Andrew Sullivan leaving the right is an epic statement. Yesterday’s conservatives are today’s moderates. Says a lot about how far-right the modern right-wing movement has gone.

What does it say when those on the left suggest that Obama is a “center-right” President because of his actions towards Afghanistan? Perhaps how far LEFT they’ve really gone? It’s funny how the left can see the right, but can’t see themselves. (For more, please see former VP candidate, Joe Lieberman)

Look, you whack-a-loons can’t blame Sullivan for leaving what has become a party of assorted cream filled teabagging nuts? Or maybe it’s more like teabagging spongecake. Well, regardless, there is always an outside chance you nut balls do blame Sullivan. Most sane people do not.

Ted says:
December 3, 2009 at 10:17 pm

Was that English?

Oh darn, I’m sorry to see him go. He was always so supportive. What are we to do now?

Conservatism is coming back stronger than ever. You’d be hard pressed to find a conservative who thought Andrew Sullivan was on their side — ever. His descent into utter madness ever since Sarah Palin arrived on the scene has been pretty amazing. The idea that his “officially” leaving the right is going to do any damage to us is the funniest thing I’ve heard this week. We didn’t notice him when he was here and we don’t give a damn that he’s gone.

I’m for freedom of speech. But this guy and most of the other blaggarts on that channel are a public menace. Beck the UN-BOLD is nothing more than a glorified rabble rouser at the beck and call of right wing corporate interests. He’s a mine-layer, a disposable lackey of the Bush era, a modern version of the sorts of psychopaths who turned Paris into a bloodbath during La Terreur.
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The Democratic Party would be considered a right-wing party in every other democratic country in the world.

In the United States we only really have two parties: one center-right and one super-freakin-right.

As Obama said a couple of months ago, one foreign Head of State was shocked at how conservatives in America kept calling Obama a “socialist” when in his own country Obama would be considered a conservative.

You know you’ve gone off the edge when Ronald Reagan don’t even pass the conservative litmus test anymore. Richard Nixon by today’s standards would be grouped together with Dennis Kucinich according to Republicans. Eisenhower would never be able to get nominated. And Abraham Lincoln? Favored labor over capital, something which would pretty much get him kicked out of the GOP instantly.

m wrote:

As Obama said a couple of months ago, one foreign Head of State was shocked at how conservatives in America kept calling Obama a “socialist” when in his own country Obama would be considered a conservative.

Uh huh. I remember hearing that Obama said that, but I don’t believe he said which leader. Kinda like when John Kerry said that foreign leaders were telling him America should get out of Iraq, and when challenged who would be talking to HIM about it, he said, “You can go to New York City, and you can be in a restaurant, and you can meet a foreign leader …”

And Abraham Lincoln? Favored labor over capital, something which would pretty much get him kicked out of the GOP instantly.

True, Lincoln wouldn’t be nominated by the Republicans. He was a virulent white supremacist. Honest Abe would look at Michael Steele leading the party and be horrified.

Do you think that is a bad thing, m?

ImNotBlue but IAmAnIdiot – In your case, the question is irrelevant.