There is a reason I call it World Nut Daily.

It’s the Think (NOT) Progress of the right.

Ann, we’re all still waiting for Obama’s

Long Form Birth Certificate
WITH
the doctor’s name,
signature
and date/time of birth,
along with the PLACE of birth. No one has ever displayed this information. Until then, I’m a proud “birther”

WND laid out a clear scriptural reason why they rescinded their invite…whether you agree with it or not (I can see both sides of the issue and don’t have an opinion) they are entitled to their opinions and their scriptural reasons you have not disputed.

Are you going to refund WND’s 50% deposit on your speakers fee??? If not, then you have unclean hands in this issue.

Well I finally found something I can agree with Ann Coulter on, although I would extend that “Fake Christians” label to the readers of Free Republic and Atlas Shrugs.

Oh, with respect to the birther maggots, the time to start establishing new documentation standards for establishing the qualification of a person to run for a given elective office, is well before a person is elected.

The certification of constitutional qualification for the office of president

DC Knows that Obama is Ineligible for Office

Members from all three branches of the Federal government already know that Barack Hussein Obama is ineligible for the office of President. National leaders, to include members of the US Supreme Court, already know that Barack Hussein Obama is not a “natural born citizen” of the United States of America, and therefore, is ineligible for the office he currently holds. (See JB’s new article on The Bottom Line on Natural Born Citizen)

What they don’t know is how long it will take for most Americans to figure it out, or what to do about it.

The diversionary search for an authentic birth certificate is ongoing and Obama has now spent in excess of $2 million in legal fees to keep that search alive.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/22221

Obama was born in Hawaii and ANYONE that does not believe it is an idiot.

dowdaytrader said:
Ann, we’re all still waiting for Obama’s Long Form Birth CertificateWITHthe doctor’s name,signatureand date/time of birth,along with the PLACE of birth. No one has ever displayed this information. Until then, I’m a proud “birther” WND laid out a clear scriptural reason why they rescinded their invite…whether you agree with it or not (I can see both sides of the issue and don’t have an opinion) they are entitled to their opinions and their scriptural reasons you have not disputed. Are you going to refund WND’s 50% deposit on your speakers fee??? If not, then you have unclean hands in this issue.

Omigod, another certifiable birther!! I thought all of those quacks had crawled back under their rock!!!

World Net Daily writer/editors are a bunch self righteous people, Ann’s 100 % correct .

As far as the Birther movement , it’s a lost cause , even IF documentation were to appear proving Idonesia or Kenya citizenship , the MSM would immediately discredit it as far-out, and wold not report or investigate the findings . It’s pointless .

All of the Secretaries of State did not certify that Obama was eligible!

This is SCARY:

The Mistake, The Evidence, Obama is NOT a constitutional president

The Theory is Now a Conspiracy And Facts Don’t Lie

. . . A political national committee, the Chair of the Party convention, the Secretary of the Party, Party offices in each of fifty states, and maybe many Ð many more, have knowingly and wantonly defrauded the American election system and more than 300 million American citizens.

They plotted and planned an act of evil, unlawful, treacherous fraud in a blind quest for unbridled political power, and they hoped that you would never catch it. They almost got away with it too…

They snuck it past fifty state election commissions, congress, the US Supreme Court and Justice Department, the Federal Elections Commission and countless members of the Electoral College nationwide. Not a single member of the, as Limbaugh says, “drive-by media” caught it either, or if they did, they decided to become complicit for their own political reasons.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2009/williams091209.htm

juan said:
The certification of constitutional qualification for the office of president DC Knows that Obama is Ineligible for Office Members from all three branches of the Federal government already know that Barack Hussein Obama is ineligible for the office of President. National leaders, to include members of the US Supreme Court, already know that Barack Hussein Obama is not a “natural born citizen” of the United States of America, and therefore, is ineligible for the office he currently holds. (See JB’s new article on The Bottom Line on Natural Born Citizen) What they don’t know is how long it will take for most Americans to figure it out, or what to do about it. The diversionary search for an authentic birth certificate is ongoing and Obama has now spent in excess of $2 million in legal fees to keep that search alive. http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/22221

Another candidate for the nut fringe, another birther. This whole birther thing was promulgated by either a series of very stupid people, or some very sinister righters who knew very stupid people would believe it.

murf said:
World Net Daily writer/editors are a bunch self righteous people, Ann’s 100 % correct . As far as the Birther movement , it’s a lost cause , even IF documentation were to appear proving Idonesia or Kenya citizenship , the MSM would immediately discredit it as far-out, and wold not report or investigate the findings . It’s pointless .

I am assuming, then, that you are a birther, or someone who will use anything — lies, innuendo, whatever — to make personal attacks against President Obama. That you think the birther “movement” is a lost cause doesn’t mean a thing. You did not belie it, as even Gordo did.

juan said:
All of the Secretaries of State did not certify that Obama was eligible! This is SCARY: The Mistake, The Evidence, Obama is NOT a constitutional president The Theory is Now a Conspiracy And Facts Don’t Lie . . . A political national committee, the Chair of the Party convention, the Secretary of the Party, Party offices in each of fifty states, and maybe many Ð many more, have knowingly and wantonly defrauded the American election system and more than 300 million American citizens. They plotted and planned an act of evil, unlawful, treacherous fraud in a blind quest for unbridled political power, and they hoped that you would never catch it. They almost got away with it too… They snuck it past fifty state election commissions, congress, the US Supreme Court and Justice Department, the Federal Elections Commission and countless members of the Electoral College nationwide. Not a single member of the, as Limbaugh says, “drive-by media” caught it either, or if they did, they decided to become complicit for their own political reasons. http://www.canadafreepress.com/2009/williams091209.htm

Juan, you crack me up! You really do. You’re like a skit on Saturday Night Live.

One last point , you lefty nut jobs who believe GWB allowed or could have prevented 9/11 , have no room to talk , and need to shutup , — See Alan Grayson .

Sorry Alamo2 for the lack of comprehension skills, you obviously don’t understand the meaning of ” IF ” .

murf said:
One last point , you lefty nut jobs who believe GWB allowed or could have prevented 9/11 , have no room to talk , and need to shutup , — See Alan Grayson .

Historians will debate it for years to come. But one thing we know for sure, Obama was not president when it happened. If he was, and there was even a shred of evidence that we might have dropped the ball, you would be blaming him.

Anne hit the nail on the head. I give her credit.

Valkyrie — No I wouldn’t .

Valkyrie — Radical Islam doesn’t discriminate , not matter Obama’s Muslim outreach , they still want to kill , him , me , you , and all of America .

murf said:
Valkyrie — No I wouldn’t .

Well that’s fair of your, murf. I’m a little dubious, but OK.

murf said:
Valkyrie — Radical Islam doesn’t discriminate , not matter Obama’s Muslim outreach , they still want to kill , him , me , you , and all of America .

Yep, that has been the case for a while. We do well by isolating them, and befriending the moderates.

Not only does all of DC know Obama is an USURPER President, the whole world knows and are laughing!

What is Obama hiding and WHY?

I notice lots of thumbs up for the birther conspiracy. And all thumbs down for me calling you on it. I still believe that those people who believe in the birther conspiracy are either: people of very low intelligence; or people who sleazy enough to realize that ignorant people will believe in it so they will promulgate it. Typical conservative crap. Make an issue out of something that should never be an issue.

juan said:
Not only does all of DC know Obama is an USURPER President, the whole world knows and are laughing! What is Obama hiding and WHY?

Juan, are you really serious??? Or are your comments meant to be some kind of joke?

I can’t believe I missed Red Eye last night! I knew Gutfeld would be off so I figured they would be off. Ann says this, and ANDY LEVY is guest host and I miss it?

GAAAAH! Youtube here I come to look fo this one!

PS Ann Coutler is right. A true Christian would be someone who can love a person despite differences.

David Emerson Powell said:
Ann Coutler is right. A true Christian would be someone who can love a person despite differences.

You won’t find many of them on this site….

Alamo2 is a classic liberal bigot.

Anyone who doesn’t agree with him/her — is a redneck hillbilly , uneducated , tobacco chewing , toothless idiot . Yes folks the tolerant Left strikes again . Possibly the biggest fraud/ lie running these days .

alamo2 said:
Juan, are you really serious??? Or are your comments meant to be some kind of joke?

I don’t JOKE about an anti-American, FRAUD President!

alamo2 said:
You won’t find many of them on this site….

Why did you just look in the mirror?

murf said:
Alamo2 is a classic liberal bigot. Anyone who doesn’t agree with him/her — is a redneck hillbilly , uneducated , tobacco chewing , toothless idiot . Yes folks the tolerant Left strikes again . Possibly the biggest fraud/ lie running these days .

Actually, what I said that those folks who believe in the birther conspiracy are either stupid or trying to use those people. I did not say anyone who disagrees with me is uneducated, etc. I have actually found some your comments to be quite good. But when you use the birther thing, even with a big IF, well, I disagree with you. I believe that if some crap was found, all the media would go after that. The drive by media is a Limbaugh myth. Remember the Clinton years, or the Carter years? The media had a field day with them.

juan said:
I don’t JOKE about an anti-American, FRAUD President!

PROVE IT, please…..

juan said:
I don’t JOKE about an anti-American, FRAUD President!

Cool.

Obama likes basketball. See any Arabs at basketball games?

alamo2 said:
I notice lots of thumbs up for the birther conspiracy. And all thumbs down for me calling you on it. I still believe that those people who believe in the birther conspiracy are either: people of very low intelligence; or people who sleazy enough to realize that ignorant people will believe in it so they will promulgate it. Typical conservative crap. Make an issue out of something that should never be an issue.

I notice many thumbs down for pro birther talk, is your bigotry clouding your vision?

puck30 said:
I notice many thumbs down for pro birther talk, is your bigotry clouding your vision?

Where am I a bigot? Because I think that those people who are pro-birther are either ignorant or using the ignorance of others?

valkyrie101 said:
Obama likes basketball. See any Arabs at basketball games?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOvpHYu7C00

alamo2 said:
PROVE IT, please…..

I’m not a birther, I just wonder why the President of the United States, regardless of who it is, doesn’t have to prove that he meets the Constitutional requirements for the office. I’ve applied for Federal jobs and, for those that require that I be a citizen, I have to offer proof. Why not for the President? He is required to be a natural born citizen and to be at least 35 why doesn’t he just show his birth certificate? Isn’t he supposed to be the transparent President?

alamo2 said:
PROVE IT, please…..

PROVE he’s not, please . . . . .

alamo2 said:
Where am I a bigot? Because I think that those people who are pro-birther are either ignorant or using the ignorance of others?

Well you said you noticed many thumbs up for pro birther talk, a blind man can see thats not the case. So if it is not Bigotry. Then what makes you see what is not there?

Alamo you can neither prove or disprove Barack H. Obama’s birth place , but you have the nerve to say anyone who doubts you is ignorant .

( and NO the online Place of Birth document the whitehouse FINALLY released is NOT authentic )

btw : Why didn’t Obama release his college transcripts ? Rumor has it , he failed a lot of classes and had a lower average than George W Bush. .. Haha just asking

I refuse to believe anything posted on this particular forum unless the comments are released in their long form version. What are you all trying to hide?

Funk — Yeah another dope , who resorts to tactics used by the ” professional left ” ; can’t prove what is being said is wrong ; just resort to smears and generalizations

I don’t get into the place of Obama’s birth, usually, because his mother is an American. I do find it odd, though, that his mother was living with a Kenyan dude, became pregnant, then, moved to Hawaii, to have the kid. The original birth certificate debate was brought about, due to questions of whether he had actually been born on American soil. If he hadn’t been born on American soil, he doesn’t qualify to run as president. Someone, please find that Kenyan birth certificate. LOL.

juan said:
PROVE he’s not, please . . . . .

And this is what it has boiled down to, a he said, she said. But here is your problem at the moment juan, Obama is in control, Obama doesn’t have to show you crap. And it’s a win, win for him and lose lose for you and birthers.

There is so much stuff in which to debate, I told you & others that unless you have that UNDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE the press will turn you into the equivalent of the 9/11 truthers and they did!

Right now you don’t control the game Obama does, he doesn’t have to turn over that card. Remember that when a week or two before the election in 2012 and you and Malzberg & Cuningham are all over the press and it’s nothing but BIRTHER! BIRTHER! BIRTHER! And Obama turns over the card and it says beyond the shadow of a doubt he was born a US Citizen.

There are tons of issues you can campaign with against Obama, stop being the press’s convienient ‘Crazy Uncle in the Basement’.

Thelonious Funk said:
I refuse to believe anything posted on this particular forum unless the comments are released in their long form version. What are you all trying to hide?

Are you a Sheriff from Cobb County? Last I looked murf was one person. What’s with the ‘you all’ comment?

Don’t ‘YOU ALL’ have to get to a cross burning?

The birthers can not take a joke. The only reason they have not released the birth certificate is because it serves his purpose to piss them off. I mean, in Hawaii, its a laugh and an ongoing parody. Now you are out on a limb with a bad issue. We’ll turn around so you can silently slip away. Try the mosque issue, still a few seats but the crowd is growing anxious. Seems awful petty to even think of trying to make political hay out of that, but that is where the GOP has fallen to, so join in.

Puck— Fact is , I asked questions about their Dear Leader; somthing liberals just can’t handle , I dealt with the Code Pink , NOW , MoveOn crowd for 8 years. I could personally give two shits about these liberals , as far as I’m concerned we should investigate Barack’s two kids and see if they’re legitmately his. Yes, it sounds fucked up, but these same liberals knew NO bounds when it came to Bush . Fuck em’

Joseph Farah is such a gift to the left.

“Joseph Farah is such a gift to the left.” “Try the mosque issue” “The birthers” “the GOP has fallen”

All of the gifts to the Left stop giving on Nov 2. But don’t take my word for it…

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/20/charlie-cook-to-dems-you-know-youre-going-to-get-totally-destroyed-in-november-right/

Once upon a time i think I did call Anne Coulter a “dried out Tri-Delt”.

Some people will always have fun mocking others.

Others have no shame.

Don’t attack other people because they disagree.

valkyrie101 says:
August 21, 2010 at 6:33 pm

“Try the mosque issue, still a few seats but the crowd is growing anxious. Seems awful petty to even think of trying to make political hay out of that, but that is where the GOP has fallen to, so join in.”

This is getting like batting practice.

Democrats divided over proposed New York City mosque By Chris Cillizza……By Chris Cillizza???????? No far right wing nut here!

“How can this possibly be helpful when feelings are still so raw on the issue?” asked a senior Democratic political operative who is working on multiple congressional races. “It’s best to say nothing and let the process and appeals unfold.” Added another seasoned Democratic consultant: Obama “is right on substance but wrong on politics, and right now we need to focus on politics.”

Chris Cillizza a favorite of MSNBC’! My My My! So what was that the Republicans have fallin’ into? Hope they didn’t hurt any Democrats that are already there!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/16/AR2010081605425.html?hpid=topnews

Ann Coulter: a true American icon and a voice of reason in an unreasonable world!

murf said:
World Net Daily writer/editors are a bunch self righteous people, Ann’s 100 % correct .

As far as the Birther movement , it’s a lost cause , even IF documentation were to appear proving Idonesia or Kenya citizenship , the MSM would immediately discredit it as far-out, and wold not report or investigate the findings . It’s pointless .

By the same token, if the state of Hawaii were to release the so-called “longform” birth certificate the birthers would not take it as proof The Hawaii Republican Governor spoke on this matter and the birthers did not accept that nor do they accept the birth certificate that Hawii gives to individuals and which is accepted all over the United States as proof of birth. Nor did they accept the newspaper clippings about his birth that were published at the time of his birth and which are available to anyone who wants to go to the newspaper files. Do you know anyone in Hawaii that actually has a “long form” birth certificate? Just because that is the form of a birth certificate in Maryland or any other state does not mean that is the form in Hawaii. And don’t you think if there were any doubt at all of his birthplace the McCain campaign – and for that matter the Clinton campaign – would of had a field day. But all this has been said before and it falls on deaf ears.

puck30 said:
And this is what it has boiled down to, a he said, she said. But here is your problem at the moment juan, Obama is in control, Obama doesn’t have to show you crap. And it’s a win, win for him and lose lose for you and birthers. There is so much stuff in which to debate, I told you & others that unless you have that UNDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE the press will turn you into the equivalent of the 9/11 truthers and they did! Right now you don’t control the game Obama does, he doesn’t have to turn over that card. Remember that when a week or two before the election in 2012 and you and Malzberg & Cuningham are all over the press and it’s nothing but BIRTHER! BIRTHER! BIRTHER! And Obama turns over the card and it says beyond the shadow of a doubt he was born a US Citizen. There are tons of issues you can campaign with against Obama, stop being the press’s convienient ‘Crazy Uncle in the Basement’.

FYI: I’ll be whomever I like, just myself!

The TRUTH will come out!

valkyrie101 said:
The birthers can not take a joke. The only reason they have not released the birth certificate is because it serves his purpose to piss them off. I mean, in Hawaii, its a laugh and an ongoing parody. Now you are out on a limb with a bad issue. We’ll turn around so you can silently slip away. Try the mosque issue, still a few seats but the crowd is growing anxious. Seems awful petty to even think of trying to make political hay out of that, but that is where the GOP has fallen to, so join in.

Hawaii is avoiding his birth!

Why didn’t they CELEBRATE it at their 50th Anniversary!

They did not even mention his name!

What a HOOT!

The best breakup song ever!

http://minx.cc/?post=304891

mamamary said:
By the same token, if the state of Hawaii were to release the so-called “longform” birth certificate the birthers would not take it as proof The Hawaii Republican Governor spoke on this matter and the birthers did not accept that nor do they accept the birth certificate that Hawii gives to individuals and which is accepted all over the United States as proof of birth. Nor did they accept the newspaper clippings about his birth that were published at the time of his birth and which are available to anyone who wants to go to the newspaper files. Do you know anyone in Hawaii that actually has a “long form” birth certificate? Just because that is the form of a birth certificate in Maryland or any other state does not mean that is the form in Hawaii. And don’t you think if there were any doubt at all of his birthplace the McCain campaign – and for that matter the Clinton campaign – would of had a field day. But all this has been said before and it falls on deaf ears.

The lead attorney in the “birther” lawsuits is Philip Berg, a former Pennsylvania Attorney General!

He is and always has been an ardent suppporter and fundraiser for Hillary!

if you are gonna be a birther, put up your money like whorely tate you freakin nutjobs

Mamamary

Nor did they accept the newspaper clippings about his birth that were published at the time of his birth and which are available

That’s the point , no there isn’t .

Chili , I honestly could care lrssvif he was born or not born in the US , it’s just fun pissing off folks like you ,

Correction : If *

puck30 said:
This is getting like batting practice.

Exactly. The birther arguments, though compelling, do not fly with most people and the republicans that subscribe to those notions are perceived as a pariah to the party. They may win in a primary, but can not win in a general election. Obama is playing you.

murf
you are very good with at arguing and you don’t sound like a birther, but some of these other idiots are like…i’m not a birther BUT…
i really love reading these post, particularly the ones who disagree with me but now i know i can just skip over any subsequent comments by juan cuz he is just a freakin idiot…
anything he says from now on i will read like him saying “i am an idiot, but here is my view”

btw…i have the same feeling for those idiots who say 9/11 was an inside job…except those whackjobs are dangerous because people in other countries who already dislike america read about these freakin idiots and feel justified when they do anything anti-american

Berg continued, “The pressure is building to force Obama/Soetoro to admit that he is an Imposter, a Fraud, a Phony and his tale is the largest ‘Hoax’ in the history of the United States, over 234 years. Actually, the pressure is building because the overwhelming evidence is that Obama/Soetoro was born in Africa and more important is the fact that Obama was adopted/acknowledged by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro, in Indonesia and Obama’s ‘legal’ name became ‘Barry Soetoro’ and there is no evidence that he has legally changed his name and therefore, every time he uses the name of ‘Barack Hussein Obama’ he has and is committing fraud.”

Berg concluded, “I am in the final days of planning for the largest March/Rally in Washington, DC in October 2010 to force Obama/Soetoro to step down from the Office of President, a position he is not Constitutionally eligible to be President as he is an ‘Usurper’ and he has led our country into a Constitutional crisis. When Obama/Soetoro steps down, all of the laws, appointments and programs including ObamaCare will end because all of them are ‘voidable’”.

For copies of all Press Releases and Court Pleadings, go to:
obamacrimes.com

http://obamacrimes.com/

Valkyrie, Obama played a lot of people in the 08′ election , but trust me , it will not work again. He captured the idependent vote in 08′ , which will not happen again. African-American , democrat vote – sure , republican , indie vote ( which is the majority btw ) , no .

“Obama is playing you.” Valkyrie

LOL. Of course he is. Because hey, The One attended Harvard and knows Everything. He KNEW this whole birther issue would arise and be a detriment to the GOP. He KNEW 24% of Americans would think (after he’s been in office for 19 months) that he’s a Muslim. Obama even KNEW that unemployment would be at 9.5% and rising two months before the midterm election.

Pres Obama is a fucking bungler. Nancy Pelosi (especially) and Harry Reid are the main reason the Democrats have been able to push through an extremist agenda in Congress. Ms. Pelosi will pay by losing her position as Speaker of the House. Harry Reid will be lucky if he’s even around next year.

RichS says:

I’m not a birther, I just wonder why the President of the United States, regardless of who it is, doesn’t have to prove that he meets the Constitutional requirements for the office. I’ve applied for Federal jobs and, for those that require that I be a citizen, I have to offer proof. Why not for the President? He is required to be a natural born citizen and to be at least 35 why doesn’t he just show his birth certificate? Isn’t he supposed to be the transparent President?

He does it because he likes to keep the issue alive. They think it makes the right look crazy EVEN though most of us aren’t birthers AND it was HILLARY that first brought it up.

thankfully the dems will keep the senate after the elections, thanks in large part to that fruitnut running against harry reid…the biggest problem with loosing the house is gonna be the repubs doing even less then they are doing now and spending all their time filling out supoenas.
they should take a page from the dems and, even though bush had broken the law, the new house just let it go and focused on trying to clean up the mess left behing

*i meant to say fruitbat but fruitnut will work

Michelle F, do not be discouraged or buy into the line — that people are ” crazy ” for questioning this president . Obama promised complete transparency , and honesty . ” hold me responsible ” he said . We are . So show us your authentic birth certificate and college transcripts , you lying coward .

I heard they all have bedbugs….

“they should take a page from the dems and, even though bush had broken the law, the new house just let it go…” ChiliPeppersFan

We all remember the forgiving, magnanimous mood the Democrats were in when they took over the government in Jan 2009. Don’t worry about a thing!

“thanks in large part to that fruitnut running against harry reid…”

The race between Harry Reid and Sharron Angle is rated a toss-up in Real Clear. If she’s a “fruitnut”, what does that make Harry Reid?

MichelleF said:
RichS says: I’m not a birther, I just wonder why the President of the United States, regardless of who it is, doesn’t have to prove that he meets the Constitutional requirements for the office. I’ve applied for Federal jobs and, for those that require that I be a citizen, I have to offer proof. Why not for the President? He is required to be a natural born citizen and to be at least 35 why doesn’t he just show his birth certificate? Isn’t he supposed to be the transparent President? He does it because he likes to keep the issue alive. They think it makes the right look crazy EVEN though most of us aren’t birthers AND it was HILLARY that first brought it up.

Yes Michelle you are correct with Hillary, but the press has been successful in turning this into a far-right issue.
Mainstream Republicans, Conservatives & Independents know this and look at other issues. Is Obama losing Independents in droves because of Birther Talk? No, in fact Birther Talk is not even on the list. And your also right that it is the Democrats that are keeping this alive, but people like Steve Malzberg, Bill Cuningham, and World Nut Daily help keep it alive.

When Pawn Vannity, Rush Limbaugh, Jerry Doyle, Glenn Beck do not want to do Birther Talk on their programs what does that tell you?

Drop it!

lol, it is an issue that will polarize and paralyze everyone.

Indeed, drop it. No funding exists.

valkyrie101 said:
puck30 said:
This is getting like batting practice.

Exactly.

It is so easy to argue against silly points.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
thankfully the dems will keep the senate after the elections, thanks in large part to that fruitnut running against harry reid…the biggest problem with loosing the house is gonna be the repubs doing even less then they are doing now and spending all their time filling out supoenas.they should take a page from the dems and, even though bush had broken the law, the new house just let it go and focused on trying to clean up the mess left behing

And let’s put this 9/11 truther, Obama Birther, Impeachment Lunatic Talk to rest shall we?

( from about.com) No American President has ever been forced from office due to impeachment.

In fact, only four times in our history, has Congress held serious discussions of impeachment:

•Andrew Johnson was actually impeached when Congress became unhappy with the way he was dealing with some post-Civil War matters, but Johnson was acquitted in the Senate by one vote and remained in office.

•Congress introduced a resolution to impeach John Tyler over state’s rights issues, but the resolution failed.

•Congress was debating his impeachment over the Watergate break-in when President Richard Nixon resigned.

•William J. Clinton was impeached by the House on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice in relationship to his affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. Clinton was eventually acquitted by the Senate.

Both sides have tried it, NOBODY has every won.

And just to give you a clue there Chili, You need approval of BOTH houses so I know you would LOVE to see the Republicans go hog wild when they take back the Congress, but it won’t happen no matter what Mike Malloy wants you to believe.

And any Republicans here thinking “well what if we win the Senate too?” I got two words for you LINDSEY GRAHAM and like it or not. he’s in until 2014.

Yeehaw!

Take a deep breath…nobody is arguing with you.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
thankfully the dems will keep the senate after the elections, thanks in large part to that fruitnut running against harry reid…the biggest problem with loosing the house is gonna be the repubs doing even less then they are doing now and spending all their time filling out supoenas.they should take a page from the dems and, even though bush had broken the law, the new house just let it go and focused on trying to clean up the mess left behing

You WISH – - –

Let the Investigations and IMPEACHMENT begin!

November cometh -

What is your point?

puck30 said:
When Pawn Vannity, Rush Limbaugh, Jerry Doyle, Glenn Beck do not want to do Birther Talk on their programs what does that tell you?

Rush said Obama and God do have something in common, neither have a birth certificate!

LoL

November doth come…people do vote.

ChiliPeppersFan says:
August 21, 2010 at 7:53 pm

“thankfully the dems will keep the senate after the elections, thanks in large part to that fruitnut running against harry reid”

I guess people in Nevada like ‘Fruits and Nuts’?

Latest poll shows Sharron Angle and Harry Reid remain in a dead heat….from RGJ.com

“An opinion poll released Friday by the Las Vegas Review-Journal and KLAS-TV in Las Vegas put Reid at 46 percent and Angle at 44 percent – well within the sampling error margin of plus or minus 4 percentage points.”

You are just playing around.

puck30 said:
No American President has ever been forced from office due to impeachment.

We’ve never had an Anti-American President before!

Your arguement is moot!

What you should pay attention to is people that are my age are determining your future.

I’m just young enough to recognize that.

The argument is simple…You defend your President..

“The argument is simple…You defend your President..”

I recall many Democrats saying that Pres Bush was not their president. I’m trying to think of a good reason why I shouldn’t feel the same way towards Mr. Obama. Perhaps you can enlighten me?

juan said:
Rush said Obama and God do have something in common, neither have a birth certificate! LoL

yeah juan he said it as part of a joke. Does Rush devote large chunks of his show to Birther Talk?

Keep it Juan, Dems want you to become mainstream with this. Why is Bill Cuningham getting a syndicated talk show on TV next year? Because that idiot has something intelleigent to say. Because he can”t shut up about Birther Talk.

Go ahead juan, scream your head off about Birther Talk, and mark my words! The same thing that turned people off to you in 2008 will do the same in 2012.

And I hope you will be here so Valk 101 (who I don’t agree with on just about anything) and I can say LOL! to your BOO HOO HOO!

Obama is PLAYING YOU juan WAKE UP!

If you have nothing else to say….don’t say anything.

Azarkhan said:
“The argument is simple…You defend your President..”

I recall many Democrats saying that Pres Bush was not their president. I’m trying to think of a good reason why I shouldn’t feel the same way towards Mr. Obama. Perhaps you can enlighten me?

That is a hard job that always will be criticized…not my guy but he did have a rough summer.

I was joking. I’m not an asshole like those Democrats. Pres Obama is my president–I just disagree with practically all of his policies.

lazzzlo said:
The argument is simple…You defend your President..

I didn’t defend President Bush because of his policies.

I don’t defend President Obama because of his policies.

I do defend the Office of the President for what it stands for, it’s better then having a dictator.

With the Office of the President I have the ‘right’ and the ‘freedom’ to disagree with the holders policies. With a Dictator I will either be shot, imprisoned, or just disappear if I disagree with his Policies.

Sometimes people are simple…so you defend the right of a duly representative person to challenge everyone to think about their rights.

It pisses me off sometimes….but it is a good thing.

It also is a tripartite way of governing.

puck30 said:
Obama is PLAYING YOU juan WAKE UP!

He has PLAYED everyone!

puck30 said:
With a Dictator I will either be shot, imprisoned, or just disappear if I disagree with his Policies.

Don’t be surprised!

Azarkhan said:
Pres Obama is my president

I know that…you didn’t have to explain that to me even if you didn’t vote for him.

Juan and Puck are just trying to play a game.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
thankfully the dems will keep the senate after the elections, thanks in large part to that fruitnut running against harry reid…the biggest problem with loosing the house is gonna be the repubs doing even less then they are doing now and spending all their time filling out supoenas.
they should take a page from the dems and, even though bush had broken the law, the new house just let it go and focused on trying to clean up the mess left behing

Chili, I think she will win and be a great senator. If not, I will be here the day after the election to eat crow. She was in Dallas this week and her only problem is she is not dynamic (but neither is Harry), but she is intelligent and people find that out when they listen to her.

“It also is a tripartite way of governing.”

Huh?

murf said:
Valkyrie, Obama played a lot of people in the 08′ election , but trust me , it will not work again. He captured the idependent vote in 08′ , which will not happen again. African-American , democrat vote – sure , republican , indie vote ( which is the majority btw ) , no .

So you think the moderates are cool with birther theories, sucession, changing the Constitution, abolishing medicare and social security, denying global warming, and what, a preemptive bombing of Iran? Look at Florida. Crist left the party to the right wingers and now he is leading in the polls as an independent. The right wing can not elect candidates by themselves, and they have driven out the moderates. The repubs may take back a few seats but I do not think they regain either house. They certainly won’t defeat Obama in two years.

Azarkhan said:
“It also is a tripartite way of governing.”

3 or 4 ways of arguing a point….”The “people” elect Congress. Congress legislates…The Courts rule and the Prez can pass or veto the law. People,Congress,Courts,Executive…4 ways….it used to be called a “tripartate”system.

valkyrie101 said:
So you think the moderates are cool with birther theories, sucession, changing the Constitution, abolishing medicare and social security, denying global warming, and what, a preemptive bombing of Iran? Look at Florida. Crist left the party to the right wingers and now he is leading in the polls as an independent. The right wing can not elect candidates by themselves, and they have driven out the moderates. The repubs may take back a few seats but I do not think they regain either house. They certainly won’t defeat Obama in two years.

ObamaCare – Unpopular

Bailouts- Unpopular

Foreign Policy- Unpopular ( mostly democrats, independents )

Stimulus – Unpopular

KSM trial – Unpopular

Az Law – Unpopular

Mosque position- Unpopular

Boy, valk seems like a second termer to me !

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“….it used to be called a “tripartate”system” lazzzlo

OK. I thought you were referring to the Tripartite Pact, with Obama, Pelosi and Reid as the Axis of evil.

valkyrie101 said:
Look at Florida. Crist left the party to the right wingers and now he is leading in the polls as an independent.

I do think that is a rare example….but it does seem to be working. As a Floridian I can say that Crist is also not getting anywhere near to the Democrats…the guy basically has sold himself to the highest bidder.

Azarkhan said:
OK. I thought you were referring to the Tripartite Pact, with Obama, Pelosi and Reid as the Axis of evil.

Not really, but that is kinda funny.

lazzzlo said:
I do think that is a rare example….but it does seem to be working. As a Floridian I can say that Crist is also not getting anywhere near to the Democrats…the guy basically has sold himself to the highest bidder.</blockquote

Marco Rubio will win that election.

murf said:
Marco Rubio will win that election.

You would be surprised at how it polls.

Im currently in Orlando area vacationing , word is Crist support is dwindling , Im an out-of-stater though , so I dont really know the politics in FL. ( wishful thinking )

I do think Crist will beat Rubio…too early to tell….weird election.

If Meek wins, he and Crist will split the anti-Republican vote, and Rubio will have his best chance of winning.
With those three running, Real Clear has it at practically a tie between Crist and Rubio (34.5 to 34.3).

FL politics are bizarre…it is a gut thing. Rubio and Crist are both “light” on immigration. Florida has it’s own laws which are specific to that state.

It get’s very complicated.

There’s another thing…Kendrick Meeks versus Jeff Greene.

You can’t make this stuff up.

You mean Tyson. Fantastic. Funniest story of any campaign.

The primary is Tuesday and it is just ugly…I figure I’m just going to vote for whoever wins after the dust settles.

That is seriously some of the nastiest sh*t I have ever seen in my life.

Azarkhan said:
You mean Tyson. Fantastic. Funniest story of any campaign.

I heard about that with Greene LOL .

My cherry got popped. I have never seen anything like that before in my life.

You cannot make that up.

“Crist support is dwindling” murf

I think if the oil spill had done serious damage to Florida’s beaches, Crist would already be dead. His close connection to Pres Obama would have killed him.

He dodged a real bullet.

As a politician…Crist took every bit except for one donor’s money and refused to refund the contributions.
The one donor was “Big Oil”.

It is an art form.

murf said:
Alamo you can neither prove or disprove Barack H. Obama’s birth place , but you have the nerve to say anyone who doubts you is ignorant . ( and NO the online Place of Birth document the whitehouse FINALLY released is NOT authentic ) btw : Why didn’t Obama release his college transcripts ? Rumor has it , he failed a lot of classes and had a lower average than George W Bush. .. Haha just asking

Your post is idiotic, and beneath contempt.

Azarkhan said:
“Crist support is dwindling” murf I think if the oil spill had done serious damage to Florida’s beaches, Crist would already be dead. His close connection to Pres Obama would have killed him. He dodged a real bullet.

I totally agree, he was a decent governor when a republican. Ever since he went Independent he has played the fear-mongering card with the large senior citizen population. Which i think hurts Rubio ( Cuban descent )

alamo2 said:
Your post is idiotic, and beneath contempt.

Thanks , now I know I ‘m pissing off the right people !

murf said:
I totally agree, he was a decent governor when a republican. Ever since he went Independent he has played the fear-mongering card with the large senior citizen population. Which i think hurts Rubio ( Cuban descent )

Crist is North Florida…Rubio is South Florida…it may boil down to that…eventually it wiil.

If you can’t speak Spanish (Island style) plus there is French and old school Spanish and Portuguese. You better know it….

Fun to party….Hard to work.

It’s not really English.

Also Rasta sounds…you are supposed to interpret everything.

There is a huge backlash against the multiculturalism.

And Jeff Greenne has a big yacht and plays Bob Marley!

Thank God I don’t have to vote for him.

“There is a huge backlash against the multiculturalism.”

I am definitely down with that shit!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPF49z0UZLA

Azarkhan said:
“There is a huge backlash against the multiculturalism.”

Actually, I don’t care about the music or the waves.

The ocean just makes everyone equal.

lazzzlo said:
The ocean just makes everyone equal

I like it .

murf said:
ObamaCare – Unpopular Bailouts- Unpopular Foreign Policy- Unpopular ( mostly democrats, independents ) Stimulus – Unpopular KSM trial – Unpopular Az Law – Unpopular Mosque position- Unpopular Boy, valk seems like a second termer to me ! I

OK. There is nothing to say about “Obamacare” because Obama campaigned on his intention to go for national health care, in some form. So he accomplished what he promised. Though, without republican support, a watered down version. He said during his campaign he would end the war in Iraq on a time line withdrawl, and he has done that. He said he would focus our war efforts in Afganistan, and he has done that. He said he would let the Bush tax cuts expire, and he did. And this man won the election by a wide margin. When you win the election and implement the promises you made, why would that sour the middle on Obama? Everyone knows the financial crisis was at a fever pitch in the last months of Bush’s term. Obama was not the President, his policies were not in place, all the bailouts arose, without a doubt, during the Bush terms. And subsequent other bailouts did occur under Obama, but how can Obama be accused for the underlying economic crisis, in full bloom, before he took office? And indeed, Obama is definitely a moderate, and not a liberal, on war. You may not like Obama, but don’t accuse him of not trying sincerely to keep his campaign promises.

It’s hard to explain…it is just mellow.

“The ocean just makes everyone equal”

Only if everyone is drowning. I hate what multiculturalism and political correctness have done to this country. I’ve always thought the “mosaic” approach to assimilation will lead to the balkanization of the US. But people who are much more intelligent then me say it’s the correct approach. Still, when I see demonstrators waving Mexican flags and the Democrats in the US Congress applauding a Mexican president as he criticizes the state of Arizona, it makes me wonder.

As for the mosque, again, Obama cleaning up for an event that occured under his predecessor’s watch. But Obama is smart, he protected the Constitution. The middle will not blame him for that.

valkyrie101 said:
He said during his campaign he would end the war in Iraq on a time line withdrawl, and he has done that

Actually Bush’s withdrawl plan , but sure

valkyrie101 said:
He said he would let the Bush tax cuts expire, and he did

It will effect small businesses , democratic controlled congress since 08 ‘ by the way fully supported and endorsed too.

valkyrie101 said:
Everyone knows the financial crisis was at a fever pitch in the last months of Bush’s term

Yeaah about that, they endorsed and fully supported btw )

06 ‘ *

Azarkhan said:
“The ocean just makes everyone equal”

Only if everyone is drowning.

That isn’t the wayIi look at it..

You don’t have to go dive deep if you can’t do it. You, hopefully recognize it is dangerous.

You can also sit on the beach and just watch the tide ebb slowly away or come towards you.

It’s your choice.

The ocean is the standard…you have to be a constant.

So when a lot of people complain, it is just like the twice daily tide.

People will disagree with you.

There will always be another argument…as soon as you solve that, something new will come in.

Nobody can beat it.

Admire the beauty of it and have fun with it.

valkyrie101 said:
OK. There is nothing to say about “Obamacare” because Obama campaigned on his intention to go for national health care, in some form. So he accomplished what he promised. Though, without republican support, a watered down version. He said during his campaign he would end the war in Iraq on a time line withdrawl, and he has done that. He said he would focus our war efforts in Afganistan, and he has done that. He said he would let the Bush tax cuts expire, and he did. And this man won the election by a wide margin. When you win the election and implement the promises you made, why would that sour the middle on Obama? Everyone knows the financial crisis was at a fever pitch in the last months of Bush’s term. Obama was not the President, his policies were not in place, all the bailouts arose, without a doubt, during the Bush terms. And subsequent other bailouts did occur under Obama, but how can Obama be accused for the underlying economic crisis, in full bloom, before he took office? And indeed, Obama is definitely a moderate, and not a liberal, on war. You may not like Obama, but don’t accuse him of not trying sincerely to keep his campaign promises.

What a CROC!

Obamacare was not even a campaign issue!

Leaving Iraq was already on the table before President Bush left office!

The Bush Tax Cuts have not expired and are not to expire until Jan. 2011!

The public does not support the War in Afghanistan!

He and the DEMs left supporting him are LOSERS!

Most are RUNNING far away from him!

I know what you mean. Being at the beach is great-I’d love to have a place near the ocean.
The ocean is the constant, you are the variable.

lazzzlo said:
Azarkhan said:
“The ocean just makes everyone equal”

Only if everyone is drowning.

“Whooosh, Whoosh, Whosh”

Nobody said you had to drown….some people can swim.

valkyrie101 said:
As for the mosque, again, Obama cleaning up for an event that occured under his predecessor’s watch. But Obama is smart, he protected the Constitution. The middle will not blame him for that.

Nice try, but the middle has blamed him for months and are still blaming him!

Having a place sea-side is a pain in the ass.

“The ocean just makes everyone equal.”

For you to believe that, you must not have tried buying beach front property lately.

You get a lot of people that “tell you what they think you should know”.

I always look at the potential of the Mosque the same way.
I’ve been here a while….show some respect.

I’m not local.

I’m from Florida… North Florida mind you.

As far as I can tell, it feels as if Crist will win the seat. He’s been relatively moderate throughout his governorship. Christ will lose the wingnut votes, but will gain the moderates from the dems and reps. He also has going for him his name recognization. He has not been a polarizing figure and dems don’t hate him.

I think Coulter is loving every minute of this public feud. She thrives on that type of thing, like a lot of other pundits (both left and right). Any mention in the media is a good mention!

Joseph Farah is a kook. Barack Obama was born in Honolulu. Ann Coulter is a national treasure.

juan said:
What a CROC! Obamacare was not even a campaign issue! Leaving Iraq was already on the table before President Bush left office! The Bush Tax Cuts have not expired and are not to expire until Jan. 2011! The public does not support the War in Afghanistan! He and the DEMs left supporting him are LOSERS! Most are RUNNING far away from him!

Healthcare reform was definitely an Obama campaign promise. So you are not too up to speed on reality on that. Sure, you don’t like it, but that is different than Obama not promising reform, which he did, repeatedly. The tax cuts are expiring and there has been much discussion on that with Obama clearly opposing efforts by republicans to keep them in place. The war in Afganistan may not be popular, but during the campaign Obama said we needed to focus our efforts there. Your argument is essentially the same one made by Republicans before the election, before Obama won by a significant margin, with a clear mandate to implement the policies he ran on.

juan said:
Nice try, but the middle has blamed him for months and are still blaming him!

All I know is that the Constitution prevents the right from depriving Islamics of their rights, and Obama defended the Constitition by opposing that, which is his job.

valkyrie101 said:
All I know is that the Constitution prevents the right from depriving Islamics of their rights, and Obama defended the Constitition by opposing that, which is his job.

How did he do that when they weren’t being deprived of their rights? The thing had already been greenlighted by the government. How were their rights violated?

Pablo said:
How did he do that when they weren’t being deprived of their rights? The thing had already been greenlighted by the government. How were their rights violated?

Obama had the power to block the mosque on national security grounds. And the right was urging him to do that. But he said no to that. Instead he properly recognized the 10th Amendment Rights of the local jurisdiction to exercise authority in accord with the Constitution. And Blumberg, bless him, immediately got the message, and along with a coalition of churches, temples, and other “leftwing” groups, etc. supported the right to build, and gave their blessing to build, the community center/mosque. Then a bunch of outsiders came in ginning up controversy. Then, after that, Obama stated his support for the first amendment rights of moderate Islamics to build the mosque. That is a protection of the 1st Amendment. And afterward Obama clarified by saying he was not saying whether the mosque should be built there or not. And that represents a defense of 10th Amendment, again. It is not for the President to exercise pressure on the State body by stating his opinion. And Obama refused to do so. I call that rigorous defense of the 10th Amendment. Obama acted like he knows the Constitition.

valkyrie101 said:
Obama had the power to block the mosque on national security grounds. And the right was urging him to do that.

Huh? He does? Wait, no he doesn’t. POTUS has no authority whatsoever to dictate NYC real estate development. If you disagree, please cite the source of such authority. And please tell me who these people on the right (which, this thing has tons of bi- and non-partisan opposition) were who were urging him to exercise this authority he doesn’t have.

It can’t be a defense of the 10th Amendment when there’s no violation of the 10th Amendment on the table.

Oh, is Pam Geller one of those outsiders?

Pablo said:
Huh? He does? Wait, no he doesn’t. POTUS has no authority whatsoever to dictate NYC real estate development. If you disagree, please cite the source of such authority. And please tell me who these people on the right (which, this thing has tons of bi- and non-partisan opposition) were who were urging him to exercise this authority he doesn’t have. It can’t be a defense of the 10th Amendment when there’s no violation of the 10th Amendment on the table.

So your belief is that President can not block something, in a state, on national security grounds? Better read the Patriot Act. He can step in on any dangerous, terror related, matter. Obama was out there protecting your 10th Amendment rights, and all this time you didn’t know that? Did I mention Obama used to teach Constitutional law at the University of Chicago? Your problems with Obama do not relate to the Constitution, or his exercise of it, but I’m betting you don’t like people from Chicago. A Chica-phobe. Am I right? Are you really from St. Louis?

valkyrie101 said:
So your belief is that President can not block something, in a state, on national security grounds?

Yes. And even if such an authority existed, which it does not, a house of worship wouldn’t qualify.

Better read the Patriot Act. He can step in on any dangerous, terror related, matter.

What does that have to do with real estate development? He can step in on kidnapping too. So? Do you know something about this mosque you’re not telling us?

Obama was out there protecting your 10th Amendment rights, and all this time you didn’t know that?

No, he wasn’t. He was demagoguing an issue that had already been resolved for the benefit of an audience that ate it up. The 10th Amendment doesn’t have a damned thing to do with this.

Did I mention Obama used to teach Constitutional law at the University of Chicago?

I know. You’d think he’d understand the thing. Instead, he’s quite disappointed in that “fundamentally flawed” document.

Your problems with Obama do not relate to the Constitution, or his exercise of it, but I’m betting you don’t like people from Chicago.

I do tend to distrust Chicago politicians, mostly because I’m sentient. Hell, they don’t trust each other, so why should I?

Oh, who are these people, val?

valkyrie101 said:
Obama had the power to block the mosque on national security grounds. And the right was urging him to do that.

Name names.

Pablo said:
valkyrie101 said:
So your belief is that President can not block something, in a state, on national security grounds?
Yes. And even if such an authority existed, which it does not, a house of worship wouldn’t qualify.

So you admit that Obama does have the power, or not? Your response is ambiguous.

Pablo said:
Obama was out there protecting your 10th Amendment rights, and all this time you didn’t know that?
No, he wasn’t. He was demagoguing an issue that had already been resolved for the benefit of an audience that ate it up. The 10th Amendment doesn’t have a damned thing to do with this.

Yes, it does. The state right of regulating its citizens under the 10th Amendment, as opposed to federal government interference pursuant to the Patriot Act. Obama chose to not exercise federal authority under the Patriot Act. That was an important Constitutional decision on his part.

Pablo said:
Oh, who are these people, val?
valkyrie101 said:
Obama had the power to block the mosque on national security grounds. And the right was urging him to do that.
Name names.

For example: http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20100818/REAL_ESTATE/100819820/1072

gordonbloyershow said:
Obama was born in Hawaii and ANYONE that does not believe it is an idiot.

Gordon, you surprised me with this. Nice to hear you dispell the crazies. Kathy

murf said:
Valkyrie — Radical Islam doesn’t discriminate , not matter Obama’s Muslim outreach , they still want to kill , him , me , you , and all of America .

John – I think you’re right on this one, however the vast majority of Muslims are not radical and just want to live their lives in peace. They’ve let a group of pseudo-faithful bullies take over and torture their own people (Taliban law) seeking always to squelch any resistance or independent though. Much like our own homegrown American Taliban, the pseudo-christian hate mongers who spew their nastiness everywhere. I can’t stand what’s come to be a public “face” of my faith and I am actively involved in fighting back against these people. I can’t say I like Ann Coulter, but I do respect her willingness to stand up to bullies. It takes a lot of courage to do that when so many of her fans would be part of this group. I haven’t seen many politicians willing to resist fundamentalist hate whether they are from Afganistan, Pakistan or our own beloved country. Kathy

valkyrie101 said:
The war in Afganistan may not be popular, but during the campaign Obama said we needed to focus our efforts there. Your argument is essentially the same one made by Republicans before the election, before Obama won by a significant margin, with a clear mandate to implement the policies he ran on.

He muddled the clear mandate!

valkyrie101 said:
Healthcare reform was definitely an Obama campaign promise. So you are not too up to speed on reality on that. Sure, you don’t like it, but that is different than Obama not promising reform, which he did, repeatedly.

He mentioned Healthcare reform! The refrom he campaigned for is not what we got! Healthcare was at the bottom of issues during the campaign!

valkyrie101 said:
The tax cuts are expiring and there has been much discussion on that with Obama clearly opposing efforts by republicans to keep them in place.

You wrote the tax cuts have expired! I corrected you!

valkyrie101 said:
All I know is that the Constitution prevents the right from depriving Islamics of their rights, and Obama defended the Constitition by opposing that, which is his job.

He jumped in where he had no business, then backed off!

Most everyone out there is a “fake CXhristian.” Absurd Little People filtering ignorance & hatred through Geesussah! Duh.

juan said:
valkyrie101 said:
The tax cuts are expiring and there has been much discussion on that with Obama clearly opposing efforts by republicans to keep them in place.
You wrote the tax cuts have expired! I corrected you!

Here is what I wrote: “He said he would let the Bush tax cuts expire, and he did.” Is that not what Obama, and democratic majority has done, taken no action to re-implement the tax cuts and announced that they are letting them expire? Which is to say, they are letting the tax cuts expire.

juan said:
valkyrie101 said:
All I know is that the Constitution prevents the right from depriving Islamics of their rights, and Obama defended the Constitition by opposing that, which is his job.
He jumped in where he had no business, then backed off!

He qualified the issue for the republicans so that they could switch their argument from “stopping the mosque” to urging that it is a bad idea.

juan said:
valkyrie101 said:
The war in Afganistan may not be popular, but during the campaign Obama said we needed to focus our efforts there. Your argument is essentially the same one made by Republicans before the election, before Obama won by a significant margin, with a clear mandate to implement the policies he ran on.
He muddled the clear mandate!

He did what he said he would do.

juan said:
He mentioned Healthcare reform! The refrom he campaigned for is not what we got! Healthcare was at the bottom of issues during the campaign!
valkyrie101 said:
The tax cuts are expiring and there has been much discussion on that with Obama clearly opposing efforts by republicans to keep them in place.

So healthcare was “on his list”, but, in your opinion, at the bottom? LOL.

murf says:
I dealt with the Code Pink , NOW , MoveOn crowd for 8 years. I could personally give two shits about these liberals , as far as I’m concerned we should investigate Barack’s two kids and see if they’re legitmately his. Yes, it sounds fucked up, but these same liberals knew NO bounds when it came to Bush . Fuck em’. Yes, it sounds fucked up, but these same liberals knew NO bounds when it came to Bush . Fuck em’

Like Hell that sounds “Fucked Up”, murf.

President and Mrs. Bush and The Bush Girls for Eight Years on a Loop, then McCain’s Dark and Spooky Music Skin Cancer Ad, and do we really Need to go down the memory lane Checklist of President, “Let Me Be UNclear, People’s families are off-limits …And people’s children are Especially off-limits.” Obama’s Attacks on the Palin Kids? Where the Hell Was (Then) Senator NoCojones to say This ends Here and Now!?

Becuase as I’ve said here before, I was born and raised in Chicago, but I’ve been a Reagan-Conservative since age 15, (80′) thanks TO Chicago Politics and to the Peanut Farmer Too. So I Lived and Learned as much as I could about it til’ Age 32 before the move Here, which is why I’m just “guessing” that Barry and Michelle were in some Ritzy Hotel room in Chicago w/Axelrod and Jarrett etc, planning their Next ‘off limits’ 527 Attack on the McCains and Palins, and their Next one, and their Next One, and their…

The Greater Shame Imo, though, was that no Coulter-style Counter-attacks Ever came. i.e, when those Tolerant, and Ever-So Loving of The Underprivileged Children, OH THE CHILDREN, fired the First Shot, then it Should’ve Been Scorched Earth…or You Kneecap Them Asap. Nothing and NO-one was Off Limits Anymore.

So. Ever been to Clinic, Michelle? And If So? Which One? And How Many Times? And Was it Out Of Pocket Or Govt-Funded? Ya’know, They needed to Sweet talk em’, Progressive-Style, Instead of giving them The Usual “we’re better than You” and we’re “above the fray” Bullshit. Because Our Great-Grandkids aren’t gonna be better than OR above Their having to Pay Off the Three-Trillion and Counting that the Boy-Genius-Messiah-POTUS w/a TOTUS has added on to our Debt NOW!

Ps. Btw,YES WE CAN pays for Jack Sh@t when you’ve got a Fat F@ck like Michael Moore telling the 18-25 set to not even Bother trying to “Make It” In America Anymore.

Well how did YOU Manage to “Make It”, Fatboy? You take home The Gold In EVERY 57-State Pie Eating Contest with One Left To Go?

@dandmb50 – You birthers amaze me, but then you never stop. If he was not born in the USA how do you explain that over 40 years ago they had a birth announcement in the Hawaii newspaper of his birth?
Did they know when he was born, that it would be necessary to prove he was a USA born citizen?
I think that ship has sailed, let’s move onto something more important.

Daniel .. Toronto, CANADA
http://bit.ly/cummEc

All religions are fake; Now what was the point again

I think at issue here is that many posters have spent a great deal of time here arguing their point and the anger carries over to each new topic. (I just started posting so I don’t feel angry at anyone’s political expression. But I do have a right to refute what they say in a cogent manner). I don’t for a second believe Murf would tolerate the abuse of kids regardless of their parent’s political views. I just think some of the posters get tired of presenting, defending, and re-presenting their perspective. The more exhausted people become – the nastier they get and the more outrageous their statements are. I think people espouse many views on blogs that they would not acually condone in real life, in their neighborhoods, and with their neighbors. If this wasn’t true their would be a lot more violence in our culture than their already is. Thank God for the ability to spout off on what we want, but let’s not forget the human being behind each posting.

very well said kmlake…i think both sides can agree with that

fliteshare says:
All religions are fake; Now what was the point again

Right. Except That One.

“…the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.” – Saul Alinsky

The Guilt and Responsibility (or ‘Responsibilituh’, depending on which Crowd it is you’re Playing tuh) FREE Religion. That one’s all TOO Real These Days.

KMLake, there are no conspiracies that can be kept a secret. Only fools believe in the Illuminati, the New World Order, the Amero or the government bombed the WTC.
Oswald killed JFK all by himself. There are no little green men at Area 51. Sirhan Sirhan killed Robert Kennedy all by himself. There was NO Camelot in England or during the JFK administration. JFK was not a good family man, he was a serial adulterer. The republicans can not block anything Obama wanted to pass, only the democrats could.
Anything else you want to know?

gordonbloyershow said:
Lake

I think I like you (what a shock this is to me).

So why might that be? (That I like what Gordon had the wisdom to say? Ole KML, who supposedly is the famous “leftie” activist, who for some reason votes right, left and even center). Because what you said was/is all true. I like that a lot. The more of that the better… for everyone left and right. See guys (not just you Gordon, but the others perhaps more, even way more). This is reasoned discourse. If you are genuinely smart, care about your perspective on America, and want others to come to at least understand your point of view (even if they refuse to accept it for some reason of their own). What Gordon just did is the way to do it. You don’t have to make stuff up, get abusive, patronizing, insulting or rude. Just state your truth. It’s as simple as that. People want to be a “part” of what is true; they like to feel that they are on the side of what is right. People really will come around if you don’t come across as a bully (I know it’s hard sometimes to hold back). I know you get mad when people disagree with you or seem ignorant. But that’s our “job” … all of us… if we love America. Our “job” as patriots is to help others to rise up out of ignorance and maybe even being smart enough to adjust our own views when another person has a differing view that better supports and defends our fellow Americans. It’s smart man that can know all the answers… but a great man who knows he doesn’t.