What does “Ho” mean in the title???

The old school Republicans are desperate to minimize the Tea Party, even if it means donning the camoflage of “bipartisanship” with the left. They want to minimize the real danger of a third party.

The left, for their part, know they hurt themselves badly with their hysterical Tucson finger pointing and are just as desperatwe to paint themselves as reasonable. A dual win is that they can then call the Tea Party extemists and have the main stream Repubs agree with them.

It’s all self-serving bullshit on both parties part.

“The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.” – George Carlin

slickerwick said:
What does “Ho” mean in the title???

Westward Ho!

http://www.gowestwardho.com/

John McCain, the liberal media’s favorite RINO this side of Joe Scarborough.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
John McCain, the liberal media’s favorite RINO this side of Joe Scarborough.

Did you hold your nose and make a sour face when voting for him?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
John McCain, the liberal media’s favorite RINO this side of Joe Scarborough.

Your nominee.

I don’t think McCain is going to run for anything after his last victory. How can you work in Bipartisan, when the loud mouth (Limbaugh) said you shouldn’t.

Disingenuous lip service from Obama = equally disingenuous lip service response from McCain.

Yawn.

is the headline really calling McCain a whore? just one impression one might have.

Great, now both the President and the Republicans are for new “Free Trade” Agreements with Columbia and Korea that will export more Americans’ jobs just like the NAFTA is still doing:

http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/profiles/blogs/the-north-star-heads-south?xg_source=activity

I didn’t vote for him, Paul. I just couldn’t. I live in Utah, so I could get away with that.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
John McCain, the liberal media’s favorite RINO this side of Joe Scarborough.

Indeed! Why does this Old RINO even want to work with Benny Soweto? There both traders to America. And, neither of both of them where even borne in America. Why even try to work too gether? Its the principal hear, and if America fails well thats just the prize two pay. Im with you 100% Mishell in Utah!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
I didn’t vote for him, Paul. I just couldn’t. I live in Utah, so I could get away with that.

I’m sure it’s a crappy feeling, to want to vote but in the end deciding not to due to feelings about the candidates.

Harry Flashman said:
The old school Republicans are desperate to minimize the Tea Party, even if it means donning the camoflage of “bipartisanship” with the left. They want to minimize the real danger of a third party.

The left, for their part, know they hurt themselves badly with their hysterical Tucson finger pointing and are just as desperatwe to paint themselves as reasonable. A dual win is that they can then call the Tea Party extemists and have the main stream Repubs agree with them.

It’s all self-serving bullshit on both parties part.

Yes, the Republican “Good Ol’ Boys,” as Sarah Palin calls them are concerned about the Tea Party becoming the “Conservative Party” which is what may happen if Sarah Palin does not get the presidential nomination at the Republican convention in 2012. Sarah Palin writes about the Tea Party:

http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/profiles/blogs/sarah-palin-tea-party-movement

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
I didn’t vote for him, Paul. I just couldn’t. I live in Utah, so I could get away with that.

I’ve told you once, I’ve told you twice, your vote in Utah is irrelevant. It’s a solid red, and the result is announced before the ballots are counted.

Bipartisan = Moderate = Centerist = a person who is clueless as to right and wrong but wants to appear “open-minded” to impress others equally as clueless.

The question I’ve always had for “Centerists / Moderates: How much BAD do you consider a GOOD thing?

You’re right Paul, It’s much more enjoyable when you actually like one of the candidates (policywise, of course).

And Skyfet, it’s funny that you think you are insulting me by saying I live in a deep Red state, but that’s one of the things I love about it. Why do you think I ran away from Seattle screaming!? Too darn liberal!

Why all the disapproval on this? McCain deserves some credit whether he really believes what he is saying or not.

He knows he is a leader in his party and people follow leaders. With him expressing more and more desire to work with people he disagrees and conflicts with, he’s urging others to follow him. I’d rather focus on him than the Limbaughs and Olbermanns of the world who seem so set against each other.

Davo said:
Bipartisan = Moderate = Centerist = a person who is clueless as to right and wrong but wants to appear “open-minded” to impress others equally as clueless.

The question I’ve always had for “Centerists / Moderates: How much BAD do you consider a GOOD thing?

Yes, Bipartisan means by definition that you are a follower and, specifically, that you allow other people to make the decisions. Liberals ONLY talk about Republicans being bipartisan for a reason.

John McCain openly praises many of the president’s policies outlined last night,

Only shows this guy suffers from “Stockholm syndrome” being a POW all those years. Bless his heart….

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Why do you think I ran away from Seattle screaming!? Too darn liberal!

I no just what you meen, Mishell “Pottie Month” in Utah. Those dagnammit libruls are all ways talking about educashion and the in viroment and piece and keeping peeple healthee and stuff like that. Who wants to here that stuff?

What he really said was: “Hey, work with this!”

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
You’re right Paul, It’s much more enjoyable when you actually like one of the candidates (policywise, of course).

And Skyfet, it’s funny that you think you are insulting me by saying I live in a deep Red state, but that’s one of the things I love about it. Why do you think I ran away from Seattle screaming!? Too darn liberal!

No I’m not insulting you for living in Utah. I’m simply telling you that you do not speak for the rest of the country, when you say everyone around you agree with ya.

Davo said:
Bipartisan = Moderate = Centerist = a person who is clueless as to right and wrong but wants to appear “open-minded” to impress others equally as clueless.

Bipartisan is term used to equivalate the masses. This is impossible when you are talking about good vs evil. The country is equally divided on which party is what. So good luck on that….

Jack Burns said:
Bipartisan is term used to equivalate the masses. This is impossible when you are talking about good vs evil. The country is equally divided on which party is what. So good luck on that….

One party is all good while the other is all evil?

I would imagine all of the RINO’s are excited. Nothing to see here.

Jack Burns said:
Bipartisan is term used to equivalate the masses. This is impossible when you are talking about good vs evil. The country is equally divided on which party is what. So good luck on that….

I don’t even care for the term “bipartisanship”. I’m not sure what it means, and it merely confuses the issue. This is a country largely founded upon a series of compromises. “Compromise” is not necessarily a dirty word. The process of reaching a compromise usually involves a healthy exchange of ideas, and those involved often find their own ideas are put to the test. In truly testing it idea, its inherent value is made manifest or its inherent weakness shown. What I tend to find about gun discussions and abortion discussions is they go nowhere because compromise is seen as inherently weak. As such, they tend to be pointless. Positions never change because points can’t be ceded. But, most issues are not necessarily so divisive. A compromise HCR bill or a compromise deficit reduction bill is likely to be stronger and more reasonable than some ideologically laden concept. The whole notion of compromise needs to be re-examined.

paulmdoro said:
One party is all good while the other is all evil?

Both evil as far as I’m concerned. That’s why I’m a Libertarian..LOL

“In truly testing it idea,”

Skyfet says:

No I’m not insulting you for living in Utah. I’m simply telling you that you do not speak for the rest of the country, when you say everyone around you agree with ya.

Did I say that or are you just trying to start something with me?

RRKING here . Finally ! He ‘s listening to the wisdom of Meghan !

Jack Burns said:
Both evil as far as I’m concerned. That’s why I’m a Libertarian..LOL

Oh I see. Makes sense now.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
John McCain, the liberal media’s favorite RINO this side of Joe Scarborough.

You kill me. If they don’t say exactly what you want they are RINOs. But you defend them to death as long as a democrat says something in the negative. Goes to show that you can’t think for yourself.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
I didn’t vote for him, Paul. I just couldn’t. I live in Utah, so I could get away with that.

Not an excuse. You didn’t vote then STFU with your bitching. Another thing that shows your stupidity. Palin was his partner in crime. Tea party conservative. The kind you love so much. So, you backed away from giving her your support as well. Guess your not a true patriot afterall. Oh and still waiting for that link.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Skyfet says:

Did I say that or are you just trying to start something with me?

lol, that’s funny. Yes Mitchell you do say that, so don’t play dumb.

The Real Royal King said:
I don’t even care for the term “bipartisanship”. I’m not sure what it means, and it merely confuses the issue. This is a country largely founded upon a series of compromises. “Compromise” is not necessarily a dirty word.

I should have included “compromise” in the list of the clueless. Why must we dilute “right” with “wrong?” How much “wrong” are you thinking is good? Please explain your thinking here, ’cause you seem quite confused about this.

Nice analysis…

“Paul Ryan’s deficit-maniac response played right into Obama’s trap: Ryan barely mentioned the economy other to imply that every dollar taken away from the public sector will somehow create jobs in the private sector economy (a private sector economy wherein, as Obama cleverly noted, corporate profits are setting records). For those who buy the idea that government is the only obstacle to an economic boom, this makes sense. But for everybody else, the contrast between a Democratic president with a lot of small, familiar ideas for creating jobs and growth, and a Republican Party with just one big idea, is inescapable. It’s a vehicle for the “two alternate futures” choice which Obama will try to offer voters in 2012.”

http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/82175/sotu-obama-republicans-trap

Davo said:
I should have included “compromise” in the list of the clueless. Why must we dilute “right” with “wrong?” How much “wrong” are you thinking is good? Please explain your thinking here, ’cause you seem quite confused about this.

That’s right. When discussing “Right” vs “Left”, it’s really Right vs Wrong so why bother being anywhere near the middle?

paulmdoro said:
One party is all good while the other is all evil?

NO. One party is all stupid while the other is all evil. That’s how America got so far away from our founding in liberty, and sinks further and further into the cesspool of dependence and victimhood.

Sky says:

lol, that’s funny. Yes Mitchell you do say that, so don’t play dumb.

Please post where I’ve said everyone agrees with me and I’ll admit to it.

Davo said:
NO. One party is all stupid while the other is all evil. That’s how America got so far away from our founding in liberty, and sinks further and further into the cesspool of dependence and victimhood.

OK then. Nice simplistic world view that is.

paulmdoro said:
OK then. Nice simplistic world view that is.

Truth is always simple. It’s just not always easy to face and accept.

Davo said:
The Real Royal King said:
I don’t even care for the term “bipartisanship”. I’m not sure what it means, and it merely confuses the issue. This is a country largely founded upon a series of compromises. “Compromise” is not necessarily a dirty word.

I should have included “compromise” in the list of the clueless. Why must we dilute “right” with “wrong?” How much “wrong” are you thinking is good? Please explain your thinking here, ’cause you seem quite confused about this.

You see, Davo, human beings are imperfect. We don’t completely understand everything. You know how in the Episcopal dismissal, the Bishop prefaces with the passage from St. Paul’s Letter to the Church at Philippi, “The peace of God which passes all understanding ….” That’s a pretty powerful call to all of us to remember that in all things our judgment is imperfect. We have a better understanding when we have the input of others and try to work for a consensus. Since we are imperfect, the consensus never comes. So, we work toward a compromise.

Davo said:
Truth is always simple.

The truth is seldom simple and seldom known to any of us.

Everyone together now:

Every party needs a sell-out
That’s why we invited you;
McCain The SELL-OUT!

Calm down little JohnnyBoy, the New York Times loves you again…. YOU SPINELESS PATSY!

The Real Royal King said:
The truth is seldom simple and seldom known to any of us.

I think that the Truth is always easy. It’s the twists and turns required to support a lie that must be so damned hard. It sure makes the Left cranky and miserable on their best day.

The Real Royal King said:
You see, Davo, human beings are imperfect. We don’t completely understand everything. You know how in the Episcopal dismissal, the Bishop prefaces with the passage from St. Paul’s Letter to the Church at Philippi, “The peace of God which passes all understanding ….” That’s a pretty powerful call to all of us to remember that in all things our judgment is imperfect. We have a better understanding when we have the input of others and try to work for a consensus. Since we are imperfect, the consensus never comes. So, we work toward a compromise.

Oz has spoken. No go off and compromise.

Greg said:
Nice analysis… “Paul Ryan’s deficit-maniac response played right into Obama’s trap: Ryan barely mentioned the economy other to imply that every dollar taken away from the public sector will somehow create jobs in the private sector economy (a private sector economy wherein, as Obama cleverly noted, corporate profits are setting records). For those who buy the idea that government is the only obstacle to an economic boom, this makes sense. But for everybody else, the contrast between a Democratic president with a lot of small, familiar ideas for creating jobs and growth, and a Republican Party with just one big idea, is inescapable. It’s a vehicle for the “two alternate futures” choice which Obama will try to offer voters in 2012.” http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/82175/sotu-obama-republicans-trap

Another nice analysis:

Hogwash, Mr. President
Robert Scheer
~~~
The speech was a distraction from what seriously ails us: an unabated mortgage crisis, stubbornly high unemployment and a debt that spiraled out of control while the government wasted trillions making the bankers whole. Instead the president conveyed the insular optimism of his fat-cat associates: “We are poised for progress. Two years after the worst recession most of us have ever known, the stock market has come roaring back. Corporate profits are up. The economy is growing again.” How convenient to ignore the fact that this bubble of prosperity, which has failed the tens of millions losing their homes and jobs, was floated by enormous government indebtedness now forcing deep cuts in social services including state financial aid for those better-educated students the president claims to be so concerned about.

His references to education provided a convenient scapegoat for the failure of the economy, rather than to blame the actions of the Wall Street hustlers to whom Obama is now sucking up. Yes, it is an obvious good to have better-educated students to compete with other economies, but that is hardly the issue of the moment when all of the world’s economies are suffering grievous harm resulting from the irresponsible behavior of the best and the brightest here at home. It wasn’t the students struggling at community colleges who came up with the financial gimmicks that produced the Great Recession, but rather the super-whiz-kid graduates of the top business and law schools.

What nonsense to insist that low public school test scores hobbled our economy when it was the highest-achieving graduates of our elite colleges who designed and sold the financial gimmicks that created this crisis. Indeed, some of the folks who once designed the phony mathematical formulas underwriting subprime mortgage-based derivatives won Nobel prizes for their effort. A pioneer in the securitization of mortgage debt, as well as exporting jobs abroad, was one Jeffrey Immelt, the CEO of GE, whom Obama recently appointed to head his new job creation panel.

More:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-scheer/hogwash-mr-president_b_814104.html

The Real Royal King said:
You see, Davo, human beings are imperfect. We don’t completely understand everything. You know how in the Episcopal dismissal, the Bishop prefaces with the passage from St. Paul’s Letter to the Church at Philippi, “The peace of God which passes all understanding ….” That’s a pretty powerful call to all of us to remember that in all things our judgment is imperfect.

You misunderstand the passage, RRK. The reference is to our judgement being imperfect when used apart from God. Truth is quite apparent when God’s will is involved.

There is no scripture instructing people to force their will on others the way the anti-American Left demands to do. God gave us freedom to choose, even knowing that we may choose to be apart from Him. Conservatives model our ideology on the same premise, but call upon government only to prevent one’s rights to life, liberty, and ownership of property from infringing DIRECTLY on another’s rights to the same. No more government needed.

Truth isn’t elusive, RRK. It just stands there stubbornly ignoring opinions and agendas. Right and wrong are similarly available without confusion. Confusion and complication are tools used by the LEFT to circumvent Truth and blur Right and Wrong. Sorry you have a problem with that, but glad to know you respect the Word of God. That’s unusual for a Liberal.

screwauger said:
I think that the Truth is always easy. It’s the twists and turns required to support a lie that must be so damned hard. It sure makes the Left cranky and miserable on their best day.

Exactly.