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Dave Weigel Accuses Megyn Kelly Of Fear Mongering With Black Panther Story

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Dave Weigel is certainly making the most of his time guest-blogging for Andrew Sullivan. I missed this on Wednesday, but Weigel has a particularly harsh take on Megyn Kelly‘s driven (some might argue obsessive) coverage of the Black Panthers story. Much like the ACORN story, which was eventually driven into the mainstream news by Fox’s relentless coverage, the New Black Panther Party story, up until recently relegated to the periphery, seems to be making a stab into the MSM partly in thanks to Kelly, whose explosive exchange with Kirsten Powers on the subject earlier this week went viral online. Weigel has a few theories on why this might be. Some less nefarious than others.

Broadly speaking he thinks Kelly is covering the Panther story because makes for good television: “Fox News uses the Panthers the way that Phil Donohue used to use the KKK or G.G. Allin. They’re good on TV.” But then he speculates that Kelly may have some darker motives — or at least is creating darker outcomes.

One of the more jarring passages in Rick Perlstein’s “Nixonland” is his recounting of a popular myth that went around Iowa in 1966, the year of the conservative backlash against the Great Society. The myth was that black gang members on motorcycles were going to head from Chicago to ransack Des Moines. Reading this in 2008, it sounded preposterous, the kind of thing that no one could believe in the country that was about to elect Barack Obama. But Kelly, under the guise of journalism, is working to create a rumor like this in 2010. Watch her broadcasts and you become convinced that the New Black Panthers are a powerful group that hate white people and operate under the protection of Eric Holder’s DOJ.

“I am extremely sure that we do not have a policy at the Department of Justice of never prosecuting a black defendent.”

The crowd rises up. “Yes you do!” shouts one voter. When Sherman says he doesn’t know much about the Panther case, the crowd erupts in boos. They’ve been driven to fear and distrust of their DOJ by round-the-clock videos of one racist idiot brandishing a nightstick for a couple hours in 2008.

Congratulations, Megyn.

I think it’s a bit of a stretch to accuse Megyn Kelly of scheming to achieve widespread civilian paranoia. Whether that’s the result, I think a much fairer assessment would be to say Kelly, who only landed her current anchor spot at 1pm in February, has found a ratings niche and is attempting to make the most of it — the repercussions of which only make for further headlines. Something I doubt has escaped either Kelly’s or Fox News’ attention.

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  • notsofast

    dave who?

    LOL

  • BlackWidow

    Dave Weigel is certainly making the most of his time guest-blogging for Andrew Sullivan. I love Dave. Sullivan not so much. Andrew certainly got on a nutty role with that entire Palin and baby story he made up. But Dave did a good job of being decent when he was reporting on the Tea Party. Unfortunately, reporters in this day and age can’t be reporting on something they don’t agree with. That is why the msm is so not working today.

  • C0nstant

    so weigel is sullivans new buttplug?

  • writer

    So what? The other networks obsessively ignored the story. Funny how covering stories on white militia members is never considered as ‘fear mongering’. I guess it depends on which group is being covered.

  • http://apostrophejones.com Apostrophe jones

    Weigel- go on TV with Megyn and defend your point . There will be nothing left but a grease spot where you were sitting .

  • tatboy

    Dave was upset to see a Dem being yelled at. Remember this isthe guy that described an assault as a “hug” to protect another Dem he felt was getting to much heat. It’s called deflection… and he’s good at it.

  • MichelleF

    WaPo Ombud Scolds Paper for Ignoring Black Panther Voter Intimidation Story

    In a piece set to appear in the Washington Post Sunday, the paper’s ombudsman harshly criticized his employer for ignoring the New Black Panther Party voter intimidation story.
    “For months, readers have contacted the ombudsman wondering why The Post hasn’t been covering the case,” wrote Andrew Alexander.

    “The calls increased recently after competitors such as the New York Times and the Associated Press wrote stories…But The Post has been virtually silent.”

    After giving readers some details about what happened at a Philadelphia polling station on Election Day 2008 (video upper-right), as well as how the voter intimidation lawsuit originally filed by the Bush administration was scaled down after Obama was elected, Alexander again criticized his paper:

    The controversy was elevated last month when J. Christian Adams, a former Justice Department lawyer who had helped develop the case, wrote in the Washington Times that his superiors’ decision to reduce its scope was “motivated by a lawless hostility toward equal enforcement of the law.” Some in the department believe “the law should not be used against black wrongdoers because of the long history of slavery and segregation,” he wrote. Adams recently repeated these charges in public testimony before the commission.

    The Post didn’t cover it. Indeed, until Thursday’s story, The Post had written no news stories about the controversy this year. In 2009, there were passing references to it in only three stories.

    That’s prompted many readers to accuse The Post of a double standard. [...]

    The Post should never base coverage decisions on ideology, nor should it feel obligated to order stories simply because of blogosphere chatter from the right or the left.

    But in this case, coverage is justified because it’s a controversy that screams for clarity that The Post should provide. If Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. and his department are not colorblind in enforcing civil rights laws, they should be nailed. If the Commission on Civil Rights’ investigation is purely partisan, that should be revealed. If Adams is pursuing a right-wing agenda, he should be exposed.

    To be sure, as far as conservatives are concerned, Alexander is preaching to the choir, as this has been a very underreported story throughout the mainstream media.

    As Commentary’s Jennifer Rubin noted Saturday, the folks at Politico are still white-washing the matter:

    I’m amazed how Politico can run a story trying to debunk the New Black Panther scandal without interviewing trial team member Christian Adams or any other former or current Justice Department attorney, without relating any of Adams’s testimony, without referencing the voluminous research and evidence unearthed by other news outlets, without contacting the offices of congressmen (Reps. Lamar Smith and Frank Wolf) who have been pressing for answers from the administration, and without even mentioning the allegations that the Justice Department won’t file civil rights cases against minorities. For over a year, Politico — as well as every other mainstream outlet — ignored the story, so the name of the game, I suppose, is to explain that they didn’t miss anything.

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/07/17/wapo-shocker-why-silence-post-black-panther-party-story#ixzz0u3T8K5LR

  • balpert1

    It’s a shame it never entered his mind that perhaps she just does not like voter intimidation and feels it should be prosecuted where ever it occurs.

  • michiganruth

    the problem isn’t the Panthers, the problem is the Holder DOJ. always has been. Holder is probably the worst AG we’ve ever had, but then again, look who he works for.

    as for Fox “obsessively” covering stories like ACORN and this one, stories that none of the other channels are interested in? you could also say that Woodward and Bernstein obsessively covered Watergate when nobody else was interested. and that turned out to be a story, now, didn’t it?

  • michiganruth

    oh–and Dave Weigel vs. Megyn Kelly? no contest.

  • TfT

    The media continues to work overtime to make this real story a non-story, while they work hard to make non-stories real stories.

    The Obama suck-up, dem loving media is becoming less and less effective, as evidenced by the Dem Congressman being completely ignorant on a real story, where the constituents (who are smarter than the congressman and know not to rely on lamestream media for real news) knew the facts because they get their news from sources other than the broadcast alphabets, cnn or msnbc and most major print media.

    Stupid is as stupid does…..today’s media.

  • Pablo

    You know who’s fear-mongering? The NAACP.

    “I think a lot of people are not taking the tea party movement seriously, and we need to take it seriously,” said Anita Russell, head of the Kansas City chapter of the NAACP. “We need to realize it’s really not about limited government.”

  • writer

    Was Al Sharpton fear mongering when he caused people to get killed after the Fashion Mart and Tawana Brawley incidents?

  • timzank

    Weigel finds himself in the usual libtard trap, on one hand, Fox news is irrelevant, megan has probably what, 500k viewers in that time slot, yet on the other hand somehow those 500k viewers spread out over 310 million Americans are enough to send us into a race war and Fox will be the destruction of democracy.

    Over react much Weigel? Calm down you self imortant ass. Ms. Kelley is simply doing what EVERY OTHER NEWS ORGANIZATION should be doing, reporting on voter intimidation and a sleazy cheezy DOJ that has it’s favorites.

  • soozer

    Go on Dave. Call out Megyn on this. She’d love to have you on her show. Wouldn’t surprise me a bit if you didn’t get an invite this week. Go on the show and defend your point Dave. (less than a grease spot where he was sitting……snicker). Go on Dave. Do it.

  • timzank

    Pablo said:
    You know who’s fear-mongering? The NAACP.

    True. The NAACP consists of a bunch of cranky old “victims”. The important members are now dead, the real civil rights leaders. All that’s left are the gravy train sucking whiners that have grown dependent on victimhood and free shit for their followers.

    They hurt the cause of racial harmony by picking fights constantly. Like the Hallmark card fiasco, can you imagine anyone (black or white) that is that fricking stupid? They expect to be taken seriously?

  • Azarkhan

    ‘Kelly, under the guise of journalism, is working to create a rumor like this in 2010.”

    Dave, under the guise of being someone “inside the conservative movement”, took a job at the Washington Post as an “objective” blogger, all the while secretly working to slander and smear conservatives.

    I thought this boy’s fifteen minutes was over.

  • timzank

    soozer said:
    Go on Dave. Call out Megyn on this. She’d love to have you on her show. Wouldn’t surprise me a bit if you didn’t get an invite this week. Go on the show and defend your point Dave. (less than a grease spot where he was sitting……snicker). Go on Dave. Do it.

    I just sent Megyn an e-mail urging her to invite Weigel on…everybody else do it too!!! She’d shred him.

    kelly@foxnews.com

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Have to agree with this, Fox News and the GOP are doing their best to reinforce the angry black man stereotype in politics and connect it to Obama.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    timzank said:
    True. The NAACP consists of a bunch of cranky old “victims”. The important members are now dead, the real civil rights leaders. All that’s left are the gravy train sucking whiners that have grown dependent on victimhood and free shit for their followers.

    They hurt the cause of racial harmony by picking fights constantly. Like the Hallmark card fiasco, can you imagine anyone (black or white) that is that fricking stupid? They expect to be taken seriously?

    Now that’s not racist at all.

  • writer

    So RL, when white militias are reported on, is it simply to reinforce the angry white man stereotype?

  • jimw1016

    Azarkhan said:
    ‘Kelly, under the guise of journalism, is working to create a rumor like this in 2010.”

    Dave, under the guise of being someone “inside the conservative movement”, took a job at the Washington Post as an “objective” blogger, all the while secretly working to slander and smear conservatives.

    I thought this boy’s fifteen minutes was over.

    Racist idiot! How about something with intelligence next time? You and other racist fools like you are a part of the problem.

  • timzank

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Now that’s not racist at all.

    No it’s not. I know groups of cranky old stupid white people too, and cranky old stupid latinos, of all races and creeds, don’t you?

    Stupid no knows no race.

  • jimw1016

    Weigel can boast a PHD, can you? Based on your racist opinions and innuendo, it seems you nave SBA. That would be silver back ape. Unbelievable!

  • lanquihue

    First, who’s Dave Weigel? Second, who the f— cares? All of these ejaculate stains trying to change the subject just shows what a big story it is. Two assholes tried to intimidate voters. Holder’s doj dropped the case after it was won. A whistleblower claims Holder’s decision was racially motivated, and to a reasonable person, it looks as though that’s the case. It’s not that difficult to understand, and the people in the media and on this comment section that attack Kelly and Fox News over this are simply showing how low liberalism has sunk. Seriously, an attack on Kelly condones the two pap smears that got this whole thing started. Is that where you want to be? Is that what liberalism means these days? wtf?

  • writer

    jimw, when that panther said he wants to kill all whites, or when Louis Farrakhan refers to whites as ‘blue eyed devils’, do you consider that racism?

  • da-wdc

    Weigel is right. (Why the headline now? he posted this like four days ago, which is a long time in blog terms..)
    I really question what kind of judgment leads one to devote hours and hours of airtime to this story. And spends quite a lot of that airtime replaying over and over the same video of a Scary Black Man. This is not journalism. Glynnis, I don’t understand why you’ve chosen to bring up Weigel’s post a few days after the fact and try and tone down what he said. Why tone it down? This is a minor, minor story until Megyn and her producers decide that the way to get better ratings is to put the New Black Panther Party, all 5 or so of them, on TV as much as possible. The other networks likely ignored the story because there’s not enough of a story to merit their attention.

    I also don’t know why anyone who disagrees with Megyn would want to go on her show. Her fans decide she’s won the argument no matter what, and the rest of us are cringing because her hostile attitude is just painful to watch.

  • http://SailRabbits.com Magister

    I try not to complain too much, but Weigel’s post is dated four days ago. Slow news day?

  • lanquihue

    Oh, and jimw1016, it seems you’re an AB. That would be ass boil. You really are dumb.

  • writer

    Perhaps Megyn is ‘overcovering’ the story because no one else will cover it at all. If she only covered it once and let it go, how would anyone know about it? Certainly not by watching the MSM. They consider the story to be politically incorrect.

  • Xboxershorts

    I can’t believe the ignorance here. The BUSH Justice Dept adjudicated this case and closed it on Januray 9th 2009, a full week and a half before Obama was sworn in. Holder wasn’t even AG when this case was closed.

    How can you all choose to remain so ignorant? Megyn Kelly IS fanning the flames with an issue which, if you actually knew about it, should not even be an issue! You all expect Holder to reopen this case because a republican dirty tricks specialist says the DoJ didn’t do enough? Ask J Christian Adams when the damn case was closed?

    J. Christian Adams is a member of the National Republican Lawyers association, worked for GWB on his 2004 campaign, and was one of the Brooks Brother’s Rioters who illegally shut down the Florida recount in 2000.

    Not saying he’s biased, ya know, but every job he’s had in his adult life he owes to conservative politics!

    Please people, grow a god damned brain or learn how the hell to use Google. This IS fear mongering on Fox’ and Megyn Kelly’s part. And it’s blatant in it’s fact free propaganda push.

    THE CASE WAS CLOSED BY THE BUSH DOJ BEFORE OBAMA TOOK OFFICE.

  • ramjet

    The story is NOT the voter intimidation behavior by members of the NBPP, nor even the recently disclosed videos containing racist rants by NBPP officials.

    The story, and the thrust of Megyn Kelly’s reporting, is the manner, by official dictate, the Holder DOJ disposed of the case. The issue is equal justice under the law.

    As ancillary story is how the MSM covered, or more accurately, failed to cover the entire episode.

  • MichelleF

    Magister, perhaps because Glynnis is trying to keep the race-baiting in the news so she doesn’t have to talk about the news of the days. You know, things like this:

    NYT: Obama WH will argue ObamaCare mandate is a tax

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/18/nyt-obama-wh-will-argue-obamacare-mandate-is-a-tax/

    flashback:
    Obama: Mandate is Not a Tax

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/09/obama-mandate-is-not-a-tax.html

  • Azarkhan

    “Weigel can boast a PHD, can you?” jimw1016

    “Why, anybody can have a brain. That’s a very mediocre commodity. Every pusillanimous creature
    that crawls on the Earth or slinks through slimy seas has a brain.

    Back where I come from, we have universities, seats of great learning, where men go to become
    great thinkers. And when they come out, they think deep thoughts and with no more brains than you have.

    But they have one thing you haven’t got: a diploma.”

    The Wizard of Oz

  • lanquihue

    Xboxershorts said:
    I can’t believe the ignorance here. The BUSH Justice Dept adjudicated this case and closed it on Januray 9th 2009, a full week and a half before Obama was sworn in. Holder wasn’t even AG when this case was closed.

    There’s an old saying, about keeping your taco hole shut and letting people _think_ you’re a fukken retard, rather than opening it and removing all doubt.

  • jimw1016

    Kelly is a sensationalist much like her partners beck, O’Reilly and Hannity, and you can lump in their king Limbaugh the jack ass!

  • writer

    The federal case was closed, not the civil. The civil injunction was valid, and that’s what Holder chose to drop, even when it was already in the works.

  • Xboxershorts

    Say that again internet tough guy. Because you’re as stupid as the rest of the brain free haters. The BUSH DOJ SHUT THE CASE DOWN ON JAN 9 2009. HOLDER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

    Moron.

  • jimw1016

    timzank said:
    No it’s not. I know groups of cranky old stupid white people too, and cranky old stupid latinos, of all races and creeds, don’t you?

    Stupid no knows no race.

    You seems to be an expert on stupid Timmy!

  • timzank

    Xboxershorts said:
    I can’t believe the ignorance here. The BUSH Justice Dept adjudicated this case and closed it on Januray 9th 2009, a full week and a half before Obama was sworn in. Holder wasn’t even AG when this case was closed. How can you all choose to remain so ignorant? Megyn Kelly IS fanning the flames with an issue which, if you actually knew about it, should not even be an issue! You all expect Holder to reopen this case because a republican dirty tricks specialist says the DoJ didn’t do enough? Ask J Christian Adams when the damn case was closed? J. Christian Adams is a member of the National Republican Lawyers association, worked for GWB on his 2004 campaign, and was one of the Brooks Brother’s Rioters who illegally shut down the Florida recount in 2000. Not saying he’s biased, ya know, but every job he’s had in his adult life he owes to conservative politics! Please people, grow a god damned brain or learn how the hell to use Google. This IS fear mongering on Fox’ and Megyn Kelly’s part. And it’s blatant in it’s fact free propaganda push. THE CASE WAS CLOSED BY THE BUSH DOJ BEFORE OBAMA TOOK OFFICE.

    Who dismissed the case?

  • da-wdc

    Xboxershorts, I agree. There’s no story here, but Megyn/Fox/other conservative media are determined to make it one. Not sure why Megyn uncritically believes J Christian Adams, calling him a “whistleblower” but not mentioning that he’s made a career as a conservative activist. I suppose she needs to keep this going to get herself more attention and ratings, and it’s cheaper to rerun one video of the New Black Panthers a hundred times than spend any money on actual newsgathering.

  • Xboxershorts

    Civil case is a wash because there is no civil case, no one came forward to say they were injured and Civil cases are brought to protect injured parties…. and J. Christian Adams is not a whistle blower, he’s a republican hit man.

  • writer

    Emptyshorts, Holder dropped the CIVIL case. Not the federal. As a far lefty, if this had been a white AG dropping the case against white racists, you’d have been boo hooing all over the place.

  • lanquihue

    Xboxershorts said:
    Say that again internet tough guy. Because you’re as stupid as the rest of the brain free haters. The BUSH DOJ SHUT THE CASE DOWN ON JAN 9 2009. HOLDER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

    There’s an old saying, about keeping your taco hole shut and letting people _think_ you’re a fukken retard, rather than opening it and removing all doubt.

    You removed all doubt the first time. Now you’re just beyond idiocy. Chump.

  • Xboxershorts

    Makerupper, Bush dropped hundreds of voter intimidation suits brought by non-white (minority) voters through out the south and southwest. No far lefty here either, makerupper, in fact, you made that up completely, seeing as you don’t know a thing about me.

    Civil suit dropped because there are NO INJURED PARTIES.

  • writer

    The Department concluded that the evidence collected established that Minister King Samir Shabazz violated Section 11(b) by his conduct at the Philadelphia polling place on Election Day. This evidence included his display of a nightstick at the polling place during voting hours, an act which supported the allegation of voter intimidation. The Department therefore decided to seek an injunction against defendant Minister King Samir Shabazz. In approving the injunction, the district court found that the United States had alleged that Minister King Samir Shabazz “stood in front of the polling location at 1221 Fairmont Street in Philadelphia, wearing a military style uniform, wielding a nightstick, and making intimidating statements and gestures to various individuals, all in violation of 42 U.S.C. § 1973i(b),” (Order of May 18, 2009, at 1), and entered judgment “in favor of the United States of America and against Minister King Samir Shabazz, enjoining Minister King Samir Shabazz from displaying a weapon within 100 feet of any open polling location in the City of Philadelphia, or from otherwise violating 42 U.S.C. § 1973i(b).” Judgment (May 18, 2009). The federal court retains jurisdiction over its enforcement until 2012.

  • Phocus2

    Interesting that Glynnis MacNicol thinks ACORN became a major story because of Fox. Truth…it was always a big story to those not blinded by bias Glynnis. But then, how would you know that. I thought Weigel’s 15 minutes were up. His head must be flat on top, making it a perfect place for Andrew to put a book while Dave takes care of…ah…business. Notice the WaPo article castigating the paper for not jumping on the Panther story as fast as the story warranted. Blinded again Glynnis?

  • jimw1016

    writer said:
    jimw, when that panther said he wants to kill all whites, or when Louis Farrakhan refers to whites as ‘blue eyed devils’, do you consider that racism?

    That scene was racism at is worst, and that insane idiot should be in jail. Attempting to dump this mess on Obama is absurd. Prove the connection. A DOJ whistle blower doesn’t cut it, I trust NO ONE in government, including Obama. This scene occurred on November 8, 2008 during elections, if I’m not mistaken Bush was in charge and did little or nothing about this mess. I am questioning you and the rest of the partisan fools arguing about a bunch of negative garbage presented by the very same thieves and liars you support and I am speaking about both sides of the fence, Republican AND Democrat.. If you support the idiots running this show now, you are all part of the problem. Tell me how you cannot see, the corruption, ties to big business and not one iota of governance FOR THE PEOPLE! Ball is in your court. Instead of “fencing” on these media site, do something productive, because you and most of the rest of you are just wasting time.

  • timzank

    Xboxershorts said:
    Makerupper, Bush dropped hundreds of voter intimidation suits brought by non-white (minority) voters through out the south and southwest. No far lefty here either, makerupper, in fact, you made that up completely, seeing as you don’t know a thing about me. Civil suit dropped because there are NO INJURED PARTIES.

    Who (by name please) dismissed the case?

  • Xboxershorts

    Blind Hate is really sad, blind hate driven by ignorance is even worse. It shows how little you care about life.

    The BUSH DOJ Shut down the criminal case with a single injunction against the guy with a night stick.
    Not one person came forward to say they were prevented from voting.

    No Injured party, No civil suit.

    You can keep throwing shit up against the wall to see what sticks,
    or
    You can Grow up.

  • timzank

    Xboxershorts said:
    Blind Hate is really sad, blind hate driven by ignorance is even worse. It shows how little you care about life. The BUSH DOJ Shut down the criminal case with a single injunction against the guy with a night stick.Not one person came forward to say they were prevented from voting. No Injured party, No civil suit. You can keep throwing shit up against the wall to see what sticks,orYou can Grow up.

    What was the name of the DOJ official that dismissed the case?

  • jimw1016

    writer said:
    The Department concluded that the evidence collected established that Minister King Samir Shabazz violated Section 11(b) by his conduct at the Philadelphia polling place on Election Day. This evidence included his display of a nightstick at the polling place during voting hours, an act which supported the allegation of voter intimidation. The Department therefore decided to seek an injunction against defendant Minister King Samir Shabazz. In approving the injunction, the district court found that the United States had alleged that Minister King Samir Shabazz “stood in front of the polling location at 1221 Fairmont Street in Philadelphia, wearing a military style uniform, wielding a nightstick, and making intimidating statements and gestures to various individuals, all in violation of 42 U.S.C. § 1973i(b),” (Order of May 18, 2009, at 1), and entered judgment “in favor of the United States of America and against Minister King Samir Shabazz, enjoining Minister King Samir Shabazz from displaying a weapon within 100 feet of any open polling location in the City of Philadelphia, or from otherwise violating 42 U.S.C. § 1973i(b).” Judgment (May 18, 2009). The federal court retains jurisdiction over its enforcement until 2012.

    Why didn’t the Bush Admin. pressure for his arrest if he broke the law?

  • Xboxershorts

    Nothing to it, the case against Shamir was adjudicated with an injunction and there was nothing else they could do to anyone else in the NBPP.

    Nothing.

  • timzank

    Xboxershorts said:
    Nothing to it, the case against Shamir was adjudicated with an injunction and there was nothing else they could do to anyone else in the NBPP. Nothing.

    What was the name of the DOJ attorney that dismissed the case?

  • jimw1016

    lanquihue said:
    Oh, and jimw1016, it seems you’re an AB. That would be ass boil. You really are dumb.

    At least I show common sense can you make that claim butt wipe? And believe me I would rather be a boil on an ass rather then a butt crack cleaning system. Wouldn’t you agree butt wipe? It’s a horrible job but you seem to have a penchant.

  • lanquihue

    X, when you say really dumb things, you have to expect that people will call you out as a retard. To see you backpedal and spin is pathetic. I mean, seriously, do you think you a bunch more than every news room in America? This ain’t the Kos, homes, you can’t just walk in, say really stupid things, and then wonder why most of us think you’re a come stain.

  • da-wdc

    Again, Xboxershorts is correct. Career DOJ lawyers determined that there wasn’t enough evidence, and that provision is rarely used. Every agency is working with limited resources and this case wasn’t worth it.

    This is really about conservative media being convinced that, since Obama and Holder are black, they can’t treat everyone as equal under the law. That’s what this trumped-up story is about, isn’t it? Regardless of facts or evidence, they already have their minds made up about Obama and Holder. I’m just saying, the more you ignore the facts in favor of what you want to believe, the more foolish you are – like Megyn Kelly, whenever she tries to have a discussion with anyone who doesn’t see this her way (Kristen Powers, Juan Williams).

  • timzank

    da-wdc said:
    Again, Xboxershorts is correct. Career DOJ lawyers determined that there wasn’t enough evidence, and that provision is rarely used. Every agency is working with limited resources and this case wasn’t worth it. This is really about conservative media being convinced that, since Obama and Holder are black, they can’t treat everyone as equal under the law. That’s what this trumped-up story is about, isn’t it? Regardless of facts or evidence, they already have their minds made up about Obama and Holder. I’m just saying, the more you ignore the facts in favor of what you want to believe, the more foolish you are – like Megyn Kelly, whenever she tries to have a discussion with anyone who doesn’t see this her way (Kristen Powers, Juan Williams).

    What was the name of the DOJ politically appointed attorney that dismissed the case?

  • writer

    jimw, here’s an article from the Washington Post showing ties to Obama:The Washington Times Online Edition
    By Jerry Seper

    4:45 a.m., Thursday, July 30, 2009

    Associate Attorney General Thomas J. Perrelli, the No. 3 official in the Obama Justice Department, was consulted and ultimately approved a decision in May to reverse course and drop a civil complaint accusing three members of the New Black Panther Party of intimidating voters in Philadelphia during November’s election, according to interviews.

    The department’s career lawyers in the Voting Section of the Civil Rights Division who pursued the complaint for five months had recommended that Justice seek sanctions against the party and three of its members after the government had already won a default judgment in federal court against the men.

    Front-line lawyers were in the final stages of completing that work when they were unexpectedly told by their superiors in late April to seek a delay after a meeting between political appointees and career supervisors, according to federal records and interviews.

    The delay was ordered by then-acting Assistant Attorney General Loretta King after she discussed with Mr. Perrelli concerns about the case during one of their regular review meetings, according to the interviews.

    Ms. King, a career senior executive service official, had been named by President Obama in January to temporarily fill the vacant political position of assistant attorney general for civil rights while a permanent choice could be made.

    She and other career supervisors ultimately recommended dropping the case against two of the men and the party and seeking a restraining order against the one man who wielded a nightstick at the Philadelphia polling place. Mr. Perrelli approved that plan, officials said.

  • jimw1016

    Jerry Jackson, King Samir Shabazz, and Malik Zulu Shabazz. The defendants failed to file an answer to the complaint or respond in any way, so the case was eligible for a default judgment. But instead of filing the default judgment, the Holder DOJ filed a voluntary dismissal for Jerry Jackson and Malik Zulu Shabazz, and a weak restraining order against King Samir Shabazz AKA Maurice Heath. (It gets a little confusing because there are two guys named Shabazz.) King Samir Shabazz is the one seen on a video screaming about killing white babies, the one with the beard in the video.

    Anyways, there wasn’t a “conviction” against them, which would be only possible in a criminal case. The case was dropped after being eligible for a default judgment in favor of the DOJ.

  • jimw1016

    Note: conviction would only be possible in a criminal case.

  • Xboxershorts

    Tim, that ball would fall in Mukasey’s court, it was his Justice Dept that originally decided not to pursue.

    But again, not one single voter from this precinct came forward to state that they’d been intimidated.

    The Justice Department doesn’t bring an unwinnable case to court.

    It is what it is. and Megyn is wrong.

  • timzank

    Writer, I was really hoping one of the Marxists here was gonna have to dig that up! ha! But maybe now that they know the answer to my question they will move on back to Kos & Huff.

  • da-wdc

    ACORN became a major story because of Fox and since then.. ACORN was cleared of wrongdoing.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/24/us/24acorn.html

    Fox sure got a lot of mileage out of those ridiculous videos and those two conservative kids in their Halloween costumes, though. Why spend the money to investigate the facts when you can replay the same Shocking!!! Explosive Video another dozen times and your audience just eats it up?

  • da-wdc

    timzank, use the Google. I’m not here to do your research for you.

  • Xboxershorts

    No Jim, there was a default judgement and an order of injunction against Shabazz. That was for brandishing the night stick.

    Merely hanging around a public location is insufficient, therefor, the remainder of the complaints were dismissed, since no one actually came forward from this precincts to say they were prevented from voting.

  • timzank

    Xboxershorts said:
    She and other career supervisors ultimately recommended dropping the case against two of the men and the party and seeking a restraining order against the one man who wielded a nightstick at the Philadelphia polling place. Mr. Perrelli approved that plan, officials said.

    “She and other career supervisors ultimately recommended dropping the case against two of the men and the party and seeking a restraining order against the one man who wielded a nightstick at the Philadelphia polling place. Mr. Perrelli approved that plan, officials said.”

    Political appointee’s of the Barack Hussein Obama.

  • writer

    And that’s what Megyn was complaining about. The government had already won a default judgement, but when talking about sanctions against the panthers, Ms. King (an Obama apointee) said to drop the case against two of the three men.

  • jimw1016

    Acting Assistant Attorney General Loretta King dropped the case and rightfully so, there was no possible conviction or anything to gain in a Civil Trial.

  • jimw1016

    writer, ple

  • writer

    wdc, if Acorn was completely exonerated, why did your Democrat controlled congress vote to drop their funding?

  • Xboxershorts

    Tim, “Career Supervisors” means they’d been there for years, not Obama appointees.

    You have it wrong….again.

  • lanquihue

    Two ass clowns tried to intimidate voters. Holder’s doj dropped the case after it was won. A whistleblower claims Holder’s decision was racially motivated, and to a reasonable person, it looks as though that’s the case. It’s not any more complicated than that. You guys can branch off here and there and spin this till the cows come home, but it doesn’t change things.

    And here’s the easiest “what-if” in the world for you: Had it been skinheads, and had it been a Republican who dropped the suit, you whiny little scumbags would be in full on bitch mode, face it.

  • timzank

    jimw1016 said:
    Acting Assistant Attorney General Loretta King dropped the case and rightfully so, there was no possible conviction or anything to gain in a Civil Trial.

    So, if in the exact same circumstances, the accused were white members of The Tea Party, the Ms. King would have done the same thing? Is the weather nice on your planet?

  • lanquihue

    da-wdc said:
    ACORN became a major story because of Fox and since then.. ACORN was cleared of wrongdoing.

    And O.J. was innocent.

  • writer

    And there’s the rub, jimw. Since a default was already won, why did she believe a civil case couldn’t be won? I’d think most prosecutors would consider it a slam dunk.

  • jimw1016

    writer said:
    jimw, here’s an article from the Washington Post showing ties to Obama:The Washington Times Online Edition
    By Jerry Seper

    4:45 a.m., Thursday, July 30, 2009

    Associate Attorney General Thomas J. Perrelli, the No. 3 official in the Obama Justice Department, was consulted and ultimately approved a decision in May to reverse course and drop a civil complaint accusing three members of the New Black Panther Party of intimidating voters in Philadelphia during November’s election, according to interviews.

    The department’s career lawyers in the Voting Section of the Civil Rights Division who pursued the complaint for five months had recommended that Justice seek sanctions against the party and three of its members after the government had already won a default judgment in federal court against the men.

    Front-line lawyers were in the final stages of completing that work when they were unexpectedly told by their superiors in late April to seek a delay after a meeting between political appointees and career supervisors, according to federal records and interviews.

    The delay was ordered by then-acting Assistant Attorney General Loretta King after she discussed with Mr. Perrelli concerns about the case during one of their regular review meetings, according to the interviews.

    Ms. King, a career senior executive service official, had been named by President Obama in January to temporarily fill the vacant political position of assistant attorney general for civil rights while a permanent choice could be made.

    She and other career supervisors ultimately recommended dropping the case against two of the men and the party and seeking a restraining order against the one man who wielded a nightstick at the Philadelphia polling place. Mr. Perrelli approved that plan, officials said.

    writer, much unlike you, timzank and others on these media sites, please understand I have no party affiliation. I’m in support of dismantling the 2-party partisan bullshit system you support and we are forced to live with today. The government and this country is seriously broken and broken and until you partisan fools realize, and accept this as fact and react, “WE THE PEOPLE” too will remain broke and broken and the downward, corruption-filled spiral will continue and worsen. WAKE UP!

  • Xboxershorts

    Makerupper…

    “Ms. King (an Obama apointee) ”

    Ms King was a careeer civil servant in the DoJ, had worked there for years, she is not a political appointee.

  • jimw1016

    timzank said:
    So, if in the exact same circumstances, the accused were white members of The Tea Party, the Ms. King would have done the same thing? Is the weather nice on your planet?

    You sir, are a racist fool and I believe this isn’t the first time you’ve accused. Take a look at jails and prisons, the majority of the population is black. You are a pot stirring idiot much like your prime news source. FOX!

  • jimw1016

    da-wdc said:
    timzank, use the Google. I’m not here to do your research for you.

    I’m not sure he knows how.

  • Pablo

    Xboxershorts said:
    THE CASE WAS CLOSED BY THE BUSH DOJ BEFORE OBAMA TOOK OFFICE.

    Uh, no. For the billionth time. The case was filed in Jan. ’09, under Mukasey. The default verdicts came back under Holder, who assumed office on 5/3/09. The lawyers were seeking sanctions against all 4 defendants based on the default judgments when they were told, in May ’09, to withdraw all but the King Samir Shabazz complaints, and to ask for a wrist slap on that one. Check your facts or stick a cork in it.

  • yweston

    Still ignoring the story about the (3) militia who intimidated Latinos in Prima, AZ I see. Still going on and on about the DOJ didn’t prosecute the Panthers. NOT one mention about how the DOJ didn’t prosecute the (3) militia for voter intimidation in 2006.
    However, that story will come out on MSM because Fox “ain’t” reporting NOTHING that doesn’t stir up the haters. Fox will end up with EGG on it’s face just like they did with ACORN. You know the group that was illegally filmed by the Fox darling and “vindicated”. The group that is suing the Fox Darling O’Keefe for violating their civil rights.

    Statement of Thomas E. Perez, Assistant Attorney General, Civil Rights Division, Before the U.S. Commission on Civil Right May 14, 2010
    http://www.mainjustice.com/2010/05/14/perez-testifies-at-new-black-panther-party-hearing/

    Perez said: “One example is the recent instance we have identified that most closely resembles the facts in the 2009 Philadelphia Section 11(b) case that is a primary focus for this hearing. The Civil Rights Division received a complaint from a national civil rights organization regarding a matter in Pima, Arizona alleging that during the 2006 election, three well-known anti-immigration advocates – one of whom was wearing a gun – allegedly intimidated Latino voters at a polling place by approaching several persons, filming them, and advocating against printing voting materials in Spanish. In that instance, the Department declined to bring any action for alleged voter intimidation.”

    WHY AIN’T MEGYN PUSHING THIS STORY!!. Just makes them look more like the “HACKS” they are.

  • Pablo

    Pablo said:
    who assumed office on 5/3/09.

    Doh! That’s 2/3/09. February, not May.

  • yweston

    You’re still a bunch of BIGOTS!!!

  • writer

    You’re splitting hairs, shorts. (short hairs?) Ms. King was Obama’s acting assistant AG.

  • Pablo

    yweston said:
    WHY AIN’T MEGYN PUSHING THIS STORY!!. Just makes them look more like the “HACKS” they are.

    How many times do you have to have that question answered for you before you stop lying about it? Does such a number exist?

  • writer

    So yweston, you’re saying it’s wrong if whites do the intimidating, and it’s wrong to ignore the story. But when blacks do the intimidating, then it’s all overblown and the story shouldn’t be covered?

  • jimw1016

    Xboxershorts said:
    No Jim, there was a default judgement and an order of injunction against Shabazz. That was for brandishing the night stick.

    Merely hanging around a public location is insufficient, therefor, the remainder of the complaints were dismissed, since no one actually came forward from this precincts to say they were prevented from voting.

    I think that is realized as fact but these fools wanted him hung from a tree which deserves but the Bush Admin. was responsible for a criminal conviction in criminal court which accused ignored and the Bush DOJ didn’t follow through and the partisan Republican fools are trying to pin on Obama which is just additional partisan bullshit and rhetoric. These thugs were never brought o justice because there IS NO ONE WHO CAME FORWARD TO COMPLAIN IN ORDER TO BUILD A CASE. That is not an Obama problem that is actually a Bush problem!

  • writer

    jimw, for a non-partisan who claims to not like either party, you seem awfully concerned about defending the Obama administration in this case.

  • lanquihue

    yweston said:
    You know the group that was illegally filmed by the Fox darling and “vindicated”.

    People know what they saw, and they saw ACORN giving advice to people on how to commit crimes. When you write stuff like the above, do you do it with a straight face?

  • jimw1016

    Pablo said:
    Uh, no. For the billionth time. The case was filed in Jan. ‘09, under Mukasey. The default verdicts came back under Holder, who assumed office on 5/3/09. The lawyers were seeking sanctions against all 4 defendants based on the default judgments when they were told, in May ‘09, to withdraw all but the King Samir Shabazz complaints, and to ask for a wrist slap on that one. Check your facts or stick a cork in it.

    The civil case was filed in January and Acting Assistant Attorney General Loretta King dropped the case and rightfully so, THERE WAS NO POSSIBLE CONVICTION OR ANYTHING TO GAIN IN CIVIL COURT. Which part do you racist, partisan fools not understand?

  • Xboxershorts

    Umm, no, Mukasey opted to susppend the case in January ’09. There was a push to extend the case to include the entire NBPP and specifically against the two others who were there in Philadelphia.

    Loretta King delayed the case as acting AG and along with other career attorneys ultimately, when no one came forward to state they’d been intimidated, the case was completely dismissed. Bush Justice department career attorneys did not want to forward, that was in January 2009.

    No one complained about actually being intimidated. No one. Megyn Kelley and J. Christian Adams seem to be demanding the DoJ bring an unwinnable case. The only real evidence was brandishing the billy club, and they got the injunction for that.

    There was nothing else to do.

  • Pablo

    da-wdc said:
    ACORN became a major story because of Fox and since then.. ACORN was cleared of wrongdoing.

    And yet they folded anyway. Man, that Fox News is something else, isn’t it? They must be The Most Powerful Name in News or something. EVERYBODY PANIC!!!

  • Xboxershorts

    And Writer, you don’t defend party, you defend the Law as it exists or you work to modify the law.

  • writer

    jimw, aren’t you being partisan by insisting a civil case couldn’t possibly be won, after the default had already been won? If a white assistant AG had dropped the case against neo-nazis, would you be this adamant in claiming that all was above board and no one should question it?

  • yweston

    @Pablo:

    What am I lying about?

    I didn’t stand in front of the entire Nation and scare Grandma and Grandpa with “Death Panel” Jackassadness!

    Plus I proved what I said. When did Fox report about the (3) militia who intimidated Latino voters in AZ. Just because you don’t like it and want to uphold Bagger and Fox B.S. Don’t make my statement a lie.

    They weren’t prosecuted just like the Panthers. And…. Baggers are racist that’s why you’re ALL on this site trying to pretend you’re “Real Americans”. Hahahahahahahahaha!! Pulesse

  • da-wdc

    lanquihue said:
    People know what they saw, and they saw ACORN giving advice to people on how to commit crimes. When you write stuff like the above, do you do it with a straight face?

    Luckily, in this country we don’t determine whether or not a crime was committed by using the opinions of commenters on the interwebs. I regret if you don’t like the facts, but the facts are the facts – the Congressional Research Service investigated, and ACORN was cleared.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    yweston said:
    @Pablo:

    What am I lying about?

    I didn’t stand in front of the entire Nation and scare Grandma and Grandpa with “Death Panel” Jackassadness!

    Plus I proved what I said. When did Fox report about the (3) militia who intimidated Latino voters in AZ. Just because you don’t like it and want to uphold Bagger and Fox B.S. Don’t make my statement a lie.

    They weren’t prosecuted just like the Panthers. And…. Baggers are racist that’s why you’re ALL on this site trying to pretend you’re “Real Americans”. Hahahahahahahahaha!! Pulesse

    That will be mentioned when it can be used to demonize the administration and present an angry minority standpoint.

  • jimw1016

    writer said:
    jimw, for a non-partisan who claims to not like either party, you seem awfully concerned about defending the Obama administration in this case.

    Actually I’m here to argue with all partisan fools but you Republican fools make yourselves easy game, just like your Senators and Congressional idiots. Seems every time any of you open your mouths, you insert foot and swallow. Look at recent history; Barton Boehner, and the list goes on. You Republican fools are attempting to lay massive issues created by Bush.Cheney off on this administration unfairly. Give me something real not sensationalize to argue with you and I will. To date most I’ve read from your posters of the right, (a right which is wrong), has been the same crap your news and “entertainment commentators” spin and spew. I cannot support the bullshit you sling sorry. More substance and less fluff and lies may help.

  • writer

    yweston, when did anyone else report on the black panther story? Racism only offends you when it comes from white people. Any stories about black racists, you want swept under the rug.

  • jimw1016

    writer said:
    jimw, aren’t you being partisan by insisting a civil case couldn’t possibly be won, after the default had already been won? If a white assistant AG had dropped the case against neo-nazis, would you be this adamant in claiming that all was above board and no one should question it?

    Yes. The law is the law racist fool.

  • writer

    jimw, I’m independent, not a Republican. Unlike you, I actually do think both parties are full of shit.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    It’s kind of funny how this NBPP case brings out all the anger in the right. Funny how they try to fight when you call them racists. If they really weren’t and it wasn’t true they wouldn’t get so riled up about it. Kind of makes you think.

  • lanquihue

    da-wdc said:
    I regret if you don’t like the facts, but the facts are the facts

    Yes, and the video showed ACORN employees giving two young people advice on how to commit crimes. Fact.

  • lanquihue

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    It’s kind of funny how this NBPP case brings out all the anger in the right. Funny how they try to fight when you call them racists. If they really weren’t and it wasn’t true they wouldn’t get so riled up about it. Kind of makes you think.

    Yeah, it makes me think you’re a fukken idiot.

  • writer

    The typical left wing position, jimw. Anyone pointing out black racism must be a racist.

  • jimw1016

    writer said:
    jimw, I’m independent, not a Republican. Unlike you, I actually do think both parties are full of shit.

    You don’t show that in anything I’ve read. An independent racist? If so, you’re scum and I am white.

  • writer

    They jimw, you’re a self-loathing white. You think because you’re a lib, those panthers wouldn’t enjoy beating your head in the same as they would David Duke? What a naive idiot.

  • jimw1016

    writer said:
    jimw, I’m independent, not a Republican. Unlike you, I actually do think both parties are full of shit.

    writer said:
    jimw, I’m independent, not a Republican. Unlike you, I actually do think both parties are full of shit.

    Why are you so slanted to the right if you’re independent? Both parties are corrupt liars and have no business wasting our oxygen, considering the mess they have created in the horrible partisan mess we are in.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    lanquihue said:
    Yes, and the video showed ACORN employees giving two young people advice on how to commit crimes. Fact.

    It also showed a woman saying that she killed her husband only for him to be found at home alive and well. FACT!!!!!!! It was also shown that other ACORN establishments called the police. FACT!!!!!!!!!!!! District attorneys in Brooklyn and California determined there was no criminal wrongdoing on the part of ACORN. FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The GOP tried to violate the Constitution by introducing a bill of attainder to defund ACORN. FACT!!!!!!
    We can argue facts all day long.

  • writer

    Should say, Then, jimw. But you’re still a naive idiot.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    lanquihue said:
    Yeah, it makes me think you’re a fukken idiot.

    Says the guy with the Obama nazi avatar.

  • Pablo

    Xboxershorts said:
    Umm, no, Mukasey opted to susppend the case in January ‘09. There was a push to extend the case to include the entire NBPP and specifically against the two others who were there in Philadelphia.

    No, Mukasey didn’t. The case was filed on 1/7/09 with Jerry Jackson, King Shamir Shabazz, Makil Zulu Shabazz and the New Black Panther Party as defendants. That is the case all defndants defaulted on, and therefore lost. Then, Holder’s DOJ ordered it dropped. This is what the US Commission on Civil Rights is investigating.

    These are very basic facts of this case.

  • writer

    Then why are you so slanted to the left, jimw?

  • lanquihue

    jimw1016 said:
    You don’t show that in anything I’ve read. An independent racist? If so, you’re scum and I am white.

    You sure do throw the “racist” thing around. Fortunately, that crap doesn’t work anymore. I know, I know, it’s all you have, when you can’t think of anything else, if you’ve lost the argument, just scream racism. What a dumb ass.

  • Pablo

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    We can argue facts all day long.

    ACORN folded. Fact!

  • jimw1016

    lanquihue said:
    Yes, and the video showed ACORN employees giving two young people advice on how to commit crimes. Fact.

    And the Acorn representative went directly to the law and reported this as fact, or did you miss that part? Plus the two idiots who attempted to portray a pimp and his whore looked like they just left a Halloween Party!! Trick or Treat? Get real!

    Ohhhh wait, Fox didn’t report that fact, messes up their entertainment agenda!!??

  • lanquihue

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Says the guy with the Obama nazi avatar.

    Yeah, pretty cool huh? I just Googled “obama” and “nazi”, and that shit popped right up.

  • jimw1016

    lanquihue said:
    Yeah, it makes me think you’re a fukken idiot.

    Be careful of mirrors, speaking about looking like an idiot.

  • writer

    The far left is only offended by white racism. Anyone pointing out black racism is being politically incorrect and must be labeled as a racist.

  • lanquihue

    jimw1016 said:
    Plus the two idiots who attempted to portray a pimp and his whore looked like they just left a Halloween Party!!

    Well, they sure did fool that fat bitch that was handing out the advice, didn’t they? :)

  • writer

    Democrat controlled congress votes not to fund Acorn. LOL

  • jimw1016

    writer said:
    They jimw, you’re a self-loathing white. You think because you’re a lib, those panthers wouldn’t enjoy beating your head in the same as they would David Duke? What a naive idiot.

    I’m a old musician and I don’t see color lines. Unless you find yourself in the wrong part of town, which is YOUR FAULT, men are men, women are women, depending on how you treat them. This fool with a nightstick has serious problems, and should be in jail, black, white , pink or purple. If you confront him or anyone like him, once again THAT’S YOUR FAULT, the end result won’t be pretty. Lumping all people of color into one lump is racism at its worst and you have proven yourself a racist.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Pablo said:
    ACORN folded. Fact!

    and what exactly does that mean or accomplish? Less minorities, poor, etc will vote? That’s about it.

  • lanquihue

    jimw1016 said:
    Unless you find yourself in the wrong part of town,

    That just _begs_ the question, what part of town are you talking about, jimw? I’d like to know just exactly what you’re getting at.

  • writer

    When did I do that, jimw? I’ve been saying that the panthers are racist (they are) and that when someone drops a case against such obvious racists, I tend to question their motives. Conversely, if you bend over backwards to believe someone is innocent, simply because they’re black, isn’t that sort of racist?

  • jimw1016

    Now you mindless racist, partisan idiots have bored me, I’m off to the beach. one reminder, most of you have a brain, use it. Fox News, MSNBC and the rest are slanted to the left and/or right. Both sides of the fence suck, realize that fact and WAKE UP! It’s time for change and only we can institute change, keeping the norm will destroy us a country and as a people. All the problems and issues you come here to argue about are a mirror image of our POLITICIANS, walking in mud and taking yourself nowhere. LOOK CLOSELY, PLEASE.OPEN YOUR MINDS AND THINK. ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THE CONTROL ON EITHER SIDE OF THE FENCE. ARE THINGS ANY BETTER UNDER THE CONTROL OF EITHER SIDE? YOUR ANSWER SHOULD BE A RESOUNDING NO OR YOU ARE A FOOL! BUH-BYE FOR NOW, I WILL BE BACK

  • lanquihue

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Less minorities, poor, etc will vote? That’s about it.

    Are you saying that minorities and poor people are too stupid to know how to register or vote without someone holding their hand?

  • jimw1016

    writer said:
    Should say, Then, jimw. But you’re still a naive idiot.

    If I’m an idiot who sees the truth in political bullshit, what then does the make you? Being respectful I will use the term SAD, very SAD.

  • jimw1016

    writer said:
    Then why are you so slanted to the left, jimw?

    I already explained that.

  • lanquihue

    jimw1016 said:
    I WILL BE BACK

    You suck.

  • jimw1016

    lanquihue said:
    You sure do throw the “racist” thing around. Fortunately, that crap doesn’t work anymore. I know, I know, it’s all you have, when you can’t think of anything else, if you’ve lost the argument, just scream racism. What a dumb ass.

    Fuck you! Have you read the racist bullshit you Republican fools throw around here. If you have any intelligence, please show it!

  • writer

    Second that.

  • writer

    Oops. I though jimw was leaving. The ‘second that’ was for lanquihue’s post.

  • lanquihue

    jimw1016 said:
    Fuck you!

    Nice..

    Hey, you never did explain your “wrong side of town” comment. Just what did you mean by that, anyway? Are we getting a teeny bit racist, jimmy? :)

  • jimw1016

    You right wing Republican ass-kissers are slinging the bullshit and you put the Democrats on the defensive. Most everything you have to say is spun out of control bullshit that means nothing in the big picture. Why aren’t we looking deeper into problems such as this created solely by Republicans and I will name one your Bag of Shit Senator, the Dishonorable and most apologetic, Joe Barton and please notice Bartons ass kissing and penis sucking ways when it comes to big oil:

    Chew in this for a while- At issue was the 2005 Energy Policy Act — the largest energy bill in years. The committee chairman, Rep. Joe L. Barton (R- Texas), a friend of the industry, had saved some big issues for the end: billions of dollars in tax and royalty relief to encourage drilling for oil and gas in the Gulf of Mexico and other offshore areas. There was even a $50-million annual earmark to support technical research for the industry.

    ***
    The royalty waiver program was established by Congress in 1995, when oil was selling for about $18 a barrel and drilling in deep water was seen as unprofitable without a subsidy. Today, oil sells for about $70 a barrel, but the subsidy continues.
    The Government Accountability Office estimates that the deep-water waiver program could cost the Treasury $55 billion or more in lost revenue over the life of the leases, depending on the price of oil and gas and the performances of the wells.
    ***
    Oil companies won a lawsuit last year requiring the government to pay back $2.1 billion in royalties from previous years, including about $240 million to BP.

  • Pablo

    jimw1016 said:
    The civil case was filed in January and Acting Assistant Attorney General Loretta King dropped the case and rightfully so, THERE WAS NO POSSIBLE CONVICTION OR ANYTHING TO GAIN IN CIVIL COURT. Which part do you racist, partisan fools not understand?

    How someone so clueless gets off commenting on the law.

    yweston said:
    And…. Baggers are racist that’s why you’re ALL on this site trying to pretend you’re “Real Americans”.

    And here’s yweston, saying exactly what her fellow travelers insist they’re absolutely NOT saying. How do my balls taste, sweetie?

  • jimw1016

    lanquihue said:
    Nice..

    Hey, you never did explain your “wrong side of town” comment. Just what did you mean by that, anyway? Are we getting a teeny bit racist, jimmy? :)

    No, how about I’m being a realist. There are ghettos in almost every city and town and they aren’t always black, which may surprise you and if you find yourself there chances are you will be in huge trouble. I’m not being a racist of any kind this is fact.

  • writer

    Maybe we’d better ease up. jimmy is about to have a stroke.

  • jimw1016

    lanquihue said:
    Well, they sure did fool that fat bitch that was handing out the advice, didn’t they? :)

    Looks like they fooled you too fool!

  • lanquihue

    jimw1016 said:
    BUH-BYE FOR NOW

    I thought you were getting the fuck out. Typical fucken lib, says one thing but it’s all just bullshit.

  • timzank

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    and what exactly does that mean or accomplish? Less minorities, poor, etc will vote? That’s about it.

    means less dead people will be able to vote.

  • lanquihue

    jimw1016 said:
    There are ghettos in almost every city and town and they aren’t always black

    Nice backpedal, chump

    jimw1016 said:
    I’m a old musician and I don’t see color lines. Unless you find yourself in the wrong part of town, which is YOUR FAULT

    Words are words, homes. You’re just another douche nozzle, and not a very intelligent one at that.

  • timzank

    Stop with all the racist bullshit. I’m sick of being called a racist for pointing out stupid people who just happen to be black. Grow up.

    Being black shouldn’t give you a pass for being criticized for stupidity.

  • jimw1016

    writer said:
    jimw, when that panther said he wants to kill all whites, or when Louis Farrakhan refers to whites as ‘blue eyed devils’, do you consider that racism?

    Absolutely. I’m not supporting this insanity, but I am criticizing you and most of your allies as being racist. If you read my words I said you, “judge men as men and women as women, not by color”. The references you make are obviously fringe racist groups, but not ALL blacks or people of color are racist, but people like you can actually cause them to become so.

  • writer

    Did you ever consider that black racists may cause white people to become racists, jimw? Or does it only work one way?

  • timzank

    jimw1016 said:
    Absolutely. I’m not supporting this insanity, but I am criticizing you and most of your allies as being racist. If you read my words I said you, “judge men as men and women as women, not by color”. The references you make are obviously fringe racist groups, but not ALL blacks or people of color are racist, but people like you can actually cause them to become so.

    None of us are saying ALL, you are making that up!

  • jimw1016

    writer said:
    Maybe we’d better ease up. jimmy is about to have a stroke.

    LMAO. Truth hurts doesn’t it writer? You’re so typical, find some opposition you can’t overcome and you attack from a non-issue front. Good job, when did you lose your spine? By the way, when your spine went missing it left with your brain.

  • jimw1016

    lanquihue said:
    I thought you were getting the fuck out. Typical fucken lib, says one thing but it’s all just bullshit.

    Too funny, trying to get rid of me? You’re too easy, low hanging “FRUITS”, I can’t resist.

  • writer

    It’s odd how you on the left view things, jimw. You can condemn white racism, but that doesn’t mean you hate all whites. But if anyone points out black racists, such as Farrakhan or the panthers, you somehow think that’s out of bounds, and the person pointing it out must hate all blacks.

  • jimw1016

    lanquihue said:
    Nice backpedal, chump

    Words are words, homes. You’re just another douche nozzle, and not a very intelligent one at that.

    Did you ever hear the old saying, “Once you find yourself in a hole, stop digging”? You make yourself appear more and more stupid and inept with each post.

  • jimw1016

    timzank said:
    Stop with all the racist bullshit. I’m sick of being called a racist for pointing out stupid people who just happen to be black. Grow up.

    Being black shouldn’t give you a pass for being criticized for stupidity.

    History will show WE THE WHITE PEOPLE owned black people as slaves and have treated them as such since those days of old. We caused this mess and we have two ways to deal with the problem and your posts are evidence of your choices.

  • lanquihue

    jimw1016 said:
    You’re so typical, find some opposition you can’t overcome and you attack from a non-issue front.

    jimw1016 said:
    You make yourself appear more and more stupid and inept with each post.

    Nice… Still, it was funny watching you disavow your previous comment. You’ve proven yourself to be a racist ass wipe, and having a mentally challenged come stain such as yourself here is actually pretty good fun.

  • jimw1016

    Obama being president is frosting your Republican balls and so much so you won’t give him a break. I have news for you, look at the past administrations, Republican or Democrat and he has at least tried to implement change for the PEOPLE, that’s us in case you don’t understand that term, and if you support either party you don’t have a clue.

  • jimw1016

    timzank said:
    means less dead people will be able to vote.

    And that’s not a racist quote timmy?

  • Pablo

    jimw1016 said:
    History will show WE THE WHITE PEOPLE owned black people as slaves and have treated them as such since those days of old.

    Speak for yourself, cracker.

  • jimw1016

    lanquihue said:
    Nice… Still, it was funny watching you disavow your previous comment. You’ve proven yourself to be a racist ass wipe, and having a mentally challenged come stain such as yourself here is actually pretty good fun.

    I disavowed nothing. I have stated nothing which can’t be back by fact and I’m surely no racist. I’m sorry you have been afflicted with being a moron and and a biased fool. But trust me, it’s not my fault.

  • lanquihue

    jimw1016 said:
    History will show WE THE WHITE PEOPLE owned black people as slaves

    It just doesn’t get any better! Is this fucken guy for real?? Is anyone home, homes? That has got to be _the_ stupidest thing I’ve ever read here, and I’ve read some doozies! :)

  • lanquihue

    And yes, Jim, you’re a proven racist.

  • jimw1016

    lanquihue said:
    Nice backpedal, chump

    Words are words, homes. You’re just another douche nozzle, and not a very intelligent one at that.

    With those words you question my intelligence? Homes? Douche nozzle. Are you in high school? That explains it!!!

  • jimw1016

    timzank said:
    Stop with all the racist bullshit. I’m sick of being called a racist for pointing out stupid people who just happen to be black. Grow up.

    Being black shouldn’t give you a pass for being criticized for stupidity.

    If you’re referring to me timmy, I’m white. And you hate the truth!

  • lanquihue

    jimw1016 said:
    With those words you question my intelligence?

    No longer in question, cuz. You’re not very bright.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Westover/1496648721 Tony Westover

    I initially defended Dave Weigel since Matt Drudge was clearly taking his blog post out of context when he posted his story on the Drudge Report.

    But I also didn’t really know much about Weigel, I was just looking at the case at hand. (I mean who the hell reads the Washington Post anymore anyway?) Turns out, Weigel may not necessarily be a shill for the Progressives, but he is undeniably a hack journalist. And this hack job just further proves that point.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Tony Westover said:
    I initially defended Dave Weigel since Matt Drudge was clearly taking his blog post out of context when he posted his story on the Drudge Report. But I also didn’t really know much about Weigel, I was just looking at the case at hand. (I mean who the hell reads the Washington Post anymore anyway?) Turns out, Weigel may not necessarily be a shill for the Progressives, but he is undeniably a hack journalist. And this hack job just further proves that point.

    Weigel is dead on right about how Megyn Kelley and Fox Not News are trying to make something of nothing. Even on this site there’s the story of the conservative member of the Civil Rights Commission who outed the partisan members for their efforts to use this non-event to bring down Obama. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39861.html

    Fox and Kelley are the race baiting individuals and this controversy has proven something to me that I had doubted – that the Tea Party has a deep and wide vein of racism and it’s spilling out at the top.

  • ramjet

    I was going to ask if we could discuss the issues and facts, express personal conjecture or opinion, and do it without engaging in childish name-calling, personal attacks, and vulgarities. At this point, no deed to ask.

    Maybe later, maybe not

  • ramjet

    I was going to ask if we could discuss the issues and facts, express personal conjecture or opinion, and do it without engaging in childish name-calling, personal attacks, and vulgarities. At this point, no need to ask.

    Maybe later, maybe not

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-M-Chick/507482075 Daniel M. Chick

    notsofast said:
    dave who?

    LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-M-Chick/507482075 Daniel M. Chick

    Bill Adkins said:
    Weigel is dead on right about how Megyn Kelley and Fox Not News are trying to make something of nothing. Even on this site there’s the story of the conservative member of the Civil Rights Commission who outed the partisan members for their efforts to use this non-event to bring down Obama. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39861.html

    Fox and Kelley are the race baiting individuals and this controversy has proven something to me that I had doubted – that the Tea Party has a deep and wide vein of racism and it’s spilling out at the top.

    So that whole voter intimidation thing backed up by a few testimonies is just a load of hooie, right?

  • BlackWidow

    Xboxershorts said:
    I can’t believe the ignorance here. The BUSH Justice Dept adjudicated this case and closed it on Januray 9th 2009, a full week and a half before Obama was sworn in. Holder wasn’t even AG when this case was closed. How can you all choose to remain so ignorant? Megyn Kelly IS fanning the flames with an issue which, if you actually knew about it, should not even be an issue! You all expect Holder to reopen this case because a republican dirty tricks specialist says the DoJ didn’t do enough? Ask J Christian Adams when the damn case was closed? J. Christian Adams is a member of the National Republican Lawyers association, worked for GWB on his 2004 campaign, and was one of the Brooks Brother’s Rioters who illegally shut down the Florida recount in 2000. Not saying he’s biased, ya know, but every job he’s had in his adult life he owes to conservative politics! Please people, grow a god damned brain or learn how the hell to use Google. This IS fear mongering on Fox’ and Megyn Kelly’s part. And it’s blatant in it’s fact free propaganda push. THE CASE WAS CLOSED BY THE BUSH DOJ BEFORE OBAMA TOOK OFFICE.

    A new person on here with some information that happens to be true facts. Hope you stick around but this is a tuff crowd to hang with.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Daniel M. Chick said:
    So that whole voter intimidation thing backed up by a few testimonies is just a load of hooie, right?

    Cite me to those ‘few testimonies’ – let’s see the quotes, the links, the proof you have as to the intimidation on the day in question. I haven’t seen it, the Bush DOJ that dropped the case didn’t see it. So, get back to me about what you claim are ‘facts’ instead of Megan Kelley’s lies.

  • felixw

    Why does the Left find it so hard to condemn racism at the Department of Justice? Don’t they realize that their credibility is destroyed when they allow Eric Holder to decide cases based on the skin color of the defendants? The American Left appears very craven and hypocritical nowadays, but these ranks among their most embarrassing moments. Yet the whole apparatus — NY Times, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, etc. — have fallen into lockstep in their coverup here.

  • Pablo

    BlackWidow said:
    A new person on here with some information that happens to be true facts.

    Which, oddly enough, are 100% wrong.

  • Ninja

    Wow, a whole lot of misinformation here. Folks like xbox and black widow do not understand federal law so much.

    Let me clear things up. This is a case of civil matter only! Criminal prosecution would only entail at most disturbance of peace as the evidence dictated, voter intimidation is a CIVIL matter and therefore was justly dropped by the previous admin on the criminal side. Fact of the matter is this case was heard before a district court and was found to be held true on ground of a violation of United States Civil law 42 U.S.C. § 1973i(b) against the two in the video, the NBPP and the president of the NBPP. After that occured we had a change in administrations, you libs still following? After the judgement had been rendered and before the penalty phase the Obama appointed DOJ dismissed three of the verdicts and greatly reduced the fourth to get this….Prohibiting Minister King Samir Shabazz from displaying a weapon within 100 feet of any open polling location in the City of Philadelphia, or from otherwise violating 42 U.S.C. § 1973i(b).” Judgment (May 18, 2009). The federal court retains jurisdiction over its enforcement until 2012.

    So in laymens terms, this lunatic can do the same thing in 2012, guess who is up for election that year…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Guy-L-Jones/1131956890 Guy L. Jones

    Now I’m confused. First Fox and Friends told me ACORN stole the election, now Kelley tells me it was two Black Panthers. What’s a koolaide drinker to believe?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-M-Chick/507482075 Daniel M. Chick

    Bill Adkins said:
    Cite me to those ‘few testimonies’ – let’s see the quotes, the links, the proof you have as to the intimidation on the day in question. I haven’t seen it, the Bush DOJ that dropped the case didn’t see it. So, get back to me about what you claim are ‘facts’ instead of Megan Kelley’s lies.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/06/ex-official-accuses-justice-department-racial-bias-black-panther-case/
    –Here’s the official link from Fox News and their news story on it.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/14/civil-rights-panel-urges-federal-probe-following-testimony-black-panther-case/
    –their follow-up.

  • felixw

    Guy L. Jones, you need to distinguish between registering dead people as voters (Acorn’s specialty) and threatening voters at the polling place (the Black Panther specialty). That is, you care about having fair elections. Which — as is increasingly clear — is not a concern for you and your fellow travelers on the American left.

  • Ninja

    Very well stated Felix.

  • ramjet

    Criminal case- never was one, can’t dismiss a case that never existed

    Civil case- civil charges brought, adjudicated, won by default against all 4 defendants. Holder DOJ stopped sentencing, dropped charges on 3 defendants, reduced sentence on one.

    It’s a mystery.

  • Ninja

    ramjet said:
    Criminal case- never was one, can’t dismiss a case that never existed Civil case- civil charges brought, adjudicated, won by default against all 4 defendants. Holder DOJ stopped sentencing, dropped charges on 3 defendants, reduced sentence on one. It’s a mystery.

    Amazing!!! Someone else here actually read the facts of the case!

  • n222s

    Here’s what our perception of justice in the US has been reduced to; it only applies when the decision benefits people we like. We’re all splitting hairs when we debate whether ‘dropped” versus “dismissed” versus…who knows what term applies appropriately. When elections didn’t go the left’s way from 2000 through 2004 there were all kinds of allegations of voter intimidation that were never proven (yet hearings were held). When you have people in front of a poll wielding a (stick, club, twig, whatever) in militaristic garb on video that means nothing and should be ignored. If someone important on the left would just have the courage to condemn this behavior, with or without the involvement of the DOJ, this controversy would go away. Are you so blinded by your ideology that you can’t call this wrong and condemn it? No, you parse words or justify the behavior or claim it was nothing because nobody was prevented from voting or debate dismissed or dropped. And I thought liberals were better than conservatives. It seem cheap and petty behavior is just as abundant on the left.

  • ramjet

    n222s –

    I like your sentiment, but I’m confused about something. Who is debating”dropped” vs. “dismissed?”

  • Pablo

    Ninja said:
    Amazing!!! Someone else here actually read the facts of the case!

    You can tell them again and again. It just doesn’t sink in, as it contradicts this week’s talking point. Facts, shmacts.

  • felixw

    Is this so hard to understand? You shouldn’t judge cases by the color of people’s skin. The leftists posting here are obviously okay with both the institutional racism and media coverup — they have made that eminently clear in post after post. But then when these same people throw out the race card, it’s hard for the rest of us not to laugh.

    Hey, Obama worshipers, before you continue accusing everyone who disagrees with you of racism — which is pretty much Democrat Party standard operating procedure in all situations nowadays — you need to get your own house in order. Right now, it is burning down to the ground, and you apparently won’t notice until voters point it out to you come November.

  • http://none pyrope

    If someone says “we gotta kill cracker babies” and I’m a cracker, I’m going to be alarmed. To NOT be alarmed at such hateful and racist remarks is to be stupid. Well, it appears the gauntlet has been thrown down by Shabazz and his organization, and if one chooses to ignore that fact, they do so at their own peril.

    Sic vis pacem, para bellum.

  • http://none pyrope

    Oh, and by the way, I’m STILL wating for Mr. -0bama to say in no uncertain terms that he denounces the New Black Panthers, their past actions, and Mr. Shabazz.

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  • OxyCon

    Well, I guess we should be thankfull that Dave Weigel is finally being upfront with his anti-conservatives as racists smears, instead of just propagating them on far-left media email lists behind everyone’s back.

    This Glynnis McNicol creature is a real far-left tool also. Nice reporting (some might argue yellow journalism) there Glynnis! I really loved this snippet:

    “Much like the ACORN story, which was eventually driven into the mainstream news by Fox’s relentless coverage, the New Black Panther Party story, up until recently relegated to the periphery, seems to be making a stab into the MSM partly in thanks to Kelly…”

    Darn that Fox News for forcing the Lamestream media to cover the news, especially stories that are bad for Liberasl! Much better to keep them buried so no one knows about them! That is the job of every good news room, after all!

    Know what’s really sad and pathetic about the Lamestream media? by the time they finally get around to covering a story which doesn’t fit their narrative, it isn’t to report the news. It’s to cover it up. They always report these stories in damage control mode, when they finally get around to reporting on them. Look at how this Glynnis tool talks about the New Black Panthers who were on South Street in Philly screaming on the top of their lungs that they want to kill White people and their babies to see what I mean.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    felixw says: “Hey, Obama worshipers, before you continue accusing everyone who disagrees with you of racism — which is pretty much Democrat Party standard operating procedure in all situations nowadays — you need to get your own house in order. Right now, it is burning down to the ground, and you apparently won’t notice until voters point it out to you come November.”

    First I don’t worship politicians, but this one is at least competent. Felix, I don’t think that the right has any claim to avoiding the race-baiting that’s been on display all last week on Fox “News.”

    I also don’t think that the right has the high moral ground. You’re louder right now, but the Dems won’t lose either house in Congress if they can make it clear that going backward is returning to the failed policies of the past. The Dems aren’t great for America; but at least they try to solve the country’s problems. The left is right and the right is wrong: wrong about their support for plutocracy and for supporting the plutonomy that is unregulated Capitalism.

    We’re too much in the hands of vested interests now with Dems in power; the last thing this country needs is to go back to the tax cutting approach to massive deficits that don’t stimulate the economy nearly as much as demand side programs like extending unemployment insurance.

    What this country needs is a genuine Progressive Party, more bold than systemic reformers (Liberals) but not collectivist either. Progressives can solve the problems of energy independence and transformation; Conservatives and especially Tea Party Reactionaries only want to perpetuate the problems in many cases by denying that there even are problems.

    For more on the Progressive perspective on this President, Google The Regressive Antidote. M. Green is a voice for progressivism that is missing in main stream media, including Mediaite. One person who distorts the progressive agenda is my straw man, Glans Beck.

    All Dems need to do to win this fall is to remind voters of the Repulsive’s vote to protect the interests of Wall Street against the interests of Main Street. Gov’t is not the enemy; reactionaries are framing their arguments to sound like Reagan’s rhetoric, but that’s when the massive deficits REALLY started to take off. Tax cuts are not a rational solution, and independents are going to figure out which side the Party of Wall Street is on. It’s not Main Street’s side. The demand side of the economy needs stimulating with more debt in the short run since businesses that are sitting on lots of liquid capital aren’t spending it to hire workers. At around 120% of our GNP, spending can slow and reverse as the debt bomb recession we’re in slowly bounces back.

    We went through this level of debt before and bounced back; we’ll do it again. Tax cuts for the rich aren’t needed. There is liquid capital on hand for investment. It is demand that produces recovery; not further give aways to the wealthy who may or may not invest it on production.

    Voters: right wing tax cuts to enrich the wealthy or spending to stimulate demand. Felix, I wouldn’t be so confident of your success this year. Only partisans have their minds made up; the uninformed haven’t begun tuning in yet.

    Plutocracy or Main Street: who cares more about the average Joe? Who cares more about climate change? Not the status quo Republicans, and certainly not the reactionary Tea Party candidates. Only 18% of Americans want to race backward toward the 19th Century with Glenn Beck and his 100 plan for environmental collapse. Reactionaries won’t carry the day.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    pyrope says: “If someone says “we gotta kill cracker babies” and I’m a cracker, I’m going to be alarmed.”

    Now you have an inkling of what it’s like to be black in America. That quote is from an National Geographic documentary on these racists radicals; why don’t you condemn reactionary racists, like Rush Limbaugh? He’s heard by a lot more people than the New Black Panther Party until Fox replayed that footage over and over. Limbaugh is far more effectively divisive than that handful of black racists.

    If people believe half of the propaganda that comes from Fox Reactionary Propaganda Outlet, I’m going to be alarmed. Oh, wait; I’ve been alarmed by Fox for years. Then they hired Glenn Beck. He’s against racism. Uh huh. That’s why he’s been running this non-story and doing other race-baiting on his show, including connecting these racist to the White House. With Glenn Beck on Fox, that Fake News network lost all credibility. When it comes from Fox, pyrope, nothing is as is seems to be. They are part of the one man right wing faction: Rupert Murdoch. Fox is a tool for misinforming people who want to hear lies rather than news.

  • felixw

    GlennBeckReview, do you ever do anything except accuse everybody of racism? Whoops, I forgot, everybody except Eric Holder’s Department of Justice. They get a free pass because their racism is directed at white people.

    Look up the word “hypocrisy” in the dictionary sometime.

  • Latin2

    Dave Weigel is finally showing to be what he was trying to hide when covering Conservatives, he was a Liberal kook in Conservative clothing.

    1) – One of the defendants from the New Black Panther Party, Jerry Jackson, was a CREDENTIALED DEMOCRATIC ward poll watcher.

    2) – Why was someone from the New Black Panther Party an official Democratic poll watcher and on the Democrats poll watching committee?

    3) – The person who called the police on the New Black Panther Party was an African-American, who the NBPP threatened.

    4) – what about the fact that Dave Weigel WAS CAUGHT in emails telling other Liberal writers on JournOlist that they had to be coordinated to control the news spin. Meaning that they were conspiring to spin the media toward their own Liberal agenda. Weigel has no credibility after he wrote that.

  • Latin2

    jimw1016 said:
    History will show WE THE WHITE PEOPLE owned black people as slaves and have treated them as such since those days of old. We caused this mess and we have two ways to deal with the problem and your posts are evidence of your choices.

    uh…you don’t know history very well.

    Only a handful of whites owned slaves. The majority of races have all had slaves through out history in fact in a couple of Muslim countries in Africa Arabs still own black slaves (Mauritania). In the Americas Native Americans had slaves from other tribes and then in the South many Native Americans had black slaves.

    Many whites, which I am not white, died to free slaves. Many whites died to help free the slaves from the North.

    The majority of white people living in this country are descendants of Europeans who came in the 1900s and live in the Northeast of Midwest and never owned a slaves, or were involved in the slave trade. So they should have NO guilt for what others did.

    So to say a blanket statement like that is PURE STUPIDITY.

  • ramjet

    Mr. GB Review –

    Too many unsubstantiated claims in your posts to list at this time.

    Though this is a long read, it is the best treatise on the current state of our political condition.

    “America’s Ruling Class — And the Perils of Revolution”

    http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the

  • Dandee

    Bill Adkins: Evidently, you do not know that the other stations will not show that because, they are the Obama stations and it would irritate BHO to talk about some of his friends.

    BlackWidow: Gee Whiz, does your sign on fit you!

  • Integr8d

    @n222s

    Bravo!

  • http://none pyrope

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    It’s kind of funny how this NBPP case brings out all the anger in the right. Funny how they try to fight when you call them racists. If they really weren’t and it wasn’t true they wouldn’t get so riled up about it. Kind of makes you think.

    I don’t think it’s so much “anger” from the right as there is resentment (and, yes, some fear) when phrases like “we got to kill us some cracker babies” are being uttered. Man, there is NO room for hatred and racism; there is no room for crap like the skinheads are spewing, and there’s no room for crap like the NBPP are spewing. Hatred is NEGATIVE energy and it sucks the life out of everything it touches.

    There are some things we must face, and the sooner we understand and get past our being played for fools so we can see and face the real issues, the sooner we can get on to what really matters:

    We’ve got a debt situation that is totally untenable–in fact, it’s INSANE–our great grandchildren are up to their eyeballs in debt and they haven’t even been born yet! The only way out is to stop our bickering over the immaterial red meat that we’re being thrown by the puppetmasters and DEMAND that our government stop spending us into oblivion. Does it mean that we will have to make sacrifices? Hell yes! We’ve enjoyed the pony ride that got us here and now we have to pay–or, we can just be a bunch of self-serving weasels and pass it on to the next generation.

    We’ve got some REAL enemies whom we do not even see–or entirely know. They want to rob us of our freedoms and control us like animals in a circus (for their amusement) and like animals in a yoke (to do their bidding.) Every day we lose some of our rights and we are collectively too stupid to realize it. We are being played for suckers and even the brightest among us sometimes allow ourselves to be caught up in the game. This constant bickering and name calling and being played for a fool allows those in control to do their end run while we’re caught up in the fray. We have to stop the bullshit and attack our REAL enemies. If you want to know whom are the REAL enemies, find out where the trillions of dollars have gone in these so-called “stimulus” deals. The people who got the money are our enemies. (You might even know that the Fed won’t tell us where a huge hunk of the money went. Now ain’t that interesting?)

    If we can get past our silly bickering and demad our government to honor the Constitution and cut all the fluff out of the money WE work for and allow them to confiscate, we can all get somewhere. Republicans or Democrats, it doesn’t matter; they are both the enemy in one way or another because they use our stupidity to usurp our freedom.

  • http://none pyrope

    @GlennBeckReview” Now you have an inkling of what it’s like to be black in America. That quote is from an National Geographic documentary on these racists radicals; why don’t you condemn reactionary racists, like Rush Limbaugh? He’s heard by a lot more people than the New Black Panther Party until Fox replayed that footage over and over. Limbaugh is far more effectively divisive than that handful of black racists.

    Not that it will do you any good for me to tell you this, if you look carefully at the Department of Justice’s “Crime in America” report, you will find that the vast majority of murder crimes across racial boundaries are perpetrated by Blacks killing Whites. The second cross racial murder crimes are between Blacks and Hispanics. Whites killing Blacks is way on down in the percentages.

  • Some_Dude

    I don’t think these sensationalist stories from Fox News really surprises or intrigues anyone – not really. They take their marching orders to push Republican agendas by manipulating the ignorance of their viewers and do it. We all know this, regardless of your political leaning (or lack thereof). Non-issues and non-stories taking center stage to attract viewers, and therefore advertising dollars.

    Though they do hire such attractive news actresses.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Daniel M. Chick said:
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/06/ex-official-accuses-justice-department-racial-bias-black-panther-case/–Here’s the official link from Fox News and their news story on it. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/14/civil-rights-panel-urges-federal-probe-following-testimony-black-panther-case/–their follow-up.

    And you’ve come full circle, Daniel, to the Civil Rights Commission – 4 Republicans, 2 Democrats, 2 independents and one of those Republicans has outed the others as trying to use this issue, this fabrication, to bring Obama down. And Linda Chavez says it’s got pictures that can be run over and over again and Megan Kelley was listening!!

  • The Real Royal King

    Kelly, always, always has a darker motive for everything she says and does. She is a journalistic nightmare.

  • Vietnameravet

    It never dawns on these right wingers why the mainstream media never reports this kind of thing.. its just another minor incident blown up into a big thing for political purposes. ..

    like the story about the teacher that supposedly stripped naked in front of her class while teaching sex education..the rights way of discrediting such teachings.. or the claim that Obama was creating a civilian police force with internment camps for dissenters..,and of course all the lies aimed at destroying ACORN..not to mention all the crap about Death Panels in the health care bill

    This is a minor incident that was partly dismissed under George Bush and no one actually filed a charge of voter harassment but the biggest fear racists have is fear they they will be treated the same way they once treated their victims. That is why they eagerly lap up a story like this.. they see a black man in the white house and believe anything evil because its a reflection of their inner feelings of hate and fear..( which we see ample evidence of in their signs and statements) while ignoring the wars,. deaths and deficits run up under Bush..after all he was a white Christian…
    One Conservative even told me that criticisms of Bush war were “nitpicking!!!” He added, “If you look hard enough you can find something to criticize in any administration.” Quite a story in light of the deaths and deficits Bush brought about but you cant reason with fearful, ignorant and frankly hateful people so I am posting this just for the benefit of anyone who might just be wondering about this story and needs some context to put it in.. Trust me when this is over they will create another. Its just the kinds of people they are and no amount of posting will ever change them.

  • Pablo

    GlennBeckReview said:
    That quote is from an National Geographic documentary on these racists radicals; why don’t you condemn reactionary racists, like Rush Limbaugh?

    It’s that whole “Kill them. Kill their babies” thing. That, and as far as I know, Limbaugh hasn’t done anything at a polling place but vote.

  • Pablo

    There’s also some pretty compelling evidence that Rush Limbaugh has no trouble getting along with black people, whereas elected Democrat official Jerry Jackson isn’t quite so tolerant.

  • Bunny

    As an anchor, of course Megyn is going to be interested in a story for the value it might bring to her program — that’s her job! But she is also a sharp-as-a-tack attorney who understands and has passion for the legal issues involved and can navigate that in a way that a layperson might not be able to do.

    Voter intimidation involving weapons and racial slurs is an egregious offense that needs to be dealt with harshly, regardless the race of the offender. If the Klan were intimidating voters with nightsticks and racial slurs, I highly doubt that DOJ would have directed its attorneys to drop/dismiss an already-won case against them. If that were to happen, we would all be justifiably outraged and news media would be all over it.

    I think this story makes a lot of us uncomfortable because for so long a blind eye was turned when whites committed grievous offenses against blacks, and some feel that because of that, this single instance of black voter intimidation shouldn’t be a big deal. But in trying to be sensitive to that, many are missing the bigger picture here.

    The bigger picture is that there are very serious allegations that the directive to drop the case came from high up in DOJ and might be a matter of policy. Why did none of the defendants ever show up to defend themselves? It appears that they may have been told in advance that the charges would be taken care of.

    THAT is the crux of the argument for this being a valid legal and political news story, and I think that is what Megyn is trying to get across to the public. Regardless whether she likes the ratings (what TV person wouldn’t?) or whether republicans want to use it for political gain (dems would do the same with a repub administration), it is still newsworthy. IF the allegations are true, it indicates corruption in the DOJ, and people should know about it.

    Trying to deflect from the issues by attacking MK and making the story about her reporting doesn’t help us get to the truth of the matter. Wrong is wrong, regardless the political affiliation or race of those involved. It seems to me that’s what people should be concerned about — whether our DOJ acted inappropriately in a matter involving our most fundamental right as citizens. The public needs to know whether these allegations are true.

    Instead of bitching about MK, why not investigate the allegations and report on it?

  • SoCalGal1

    Oh like the NAACP and NBPP is trying to demonize the Tea Party for nefarious reasons? Yeah see how that works. More importantly, who the F is Dave?

    picture of Obamao as Hilter at a TP rally vs “Gonna have to KILL some cracka babies” from the NBPP racist.

    Dave you lose. Go away.

  • T REX

    FEAR MONGERING; SENSATIONALISM; LYING; EMBELLISHING THE TRUTH-ITSS ALLL THE SAME WITH THE FUX NEWS NETWORK: WE PURPORT-U ABIDE

  • writer

    What a joke. GlennBeckReview worries so much about Beck’s ‘bias’, but sees people such as Olbermann and Maddow as unbiased, straight-up journalists. Like when, after Scott Brown’s elections, Olbermann called Brown a racist, sexist homophobe. Since GBR considers that to be unbiased reporting, I suspect that whatever he says about Beck or Fox should be taken with a grain of salt. Well, more like an entire salt mine.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Helen-Nordo/100000884291530 Helen Nordo

    If Bush allowed these horrible men to “walk” after they did ‘everything” against the law except create a riot or murder someone, then I have to worry about our justice system; however, Holder should have shown that he could be a “better” man by correcting this & let these men do a little time for their actions. I feel, because they went under the guise of a “movement” in favor of the blacks, Holder did not want to get involved with turning on those who gave the impression that they are helping the blacks! WHY do the blacks need any help, do you see minorities i.e. chinese, puerto ricans, etc. forming groups & inciting riots…THEY WORK and do not expect to get more than others. Check out your jails…what is your ratio between blacks & whites? Why do we have to be so afraid to say what WE feel, the blacks get everything they want & we never complain yet, when an injustice occurs, you pick on a qualified & intelligent correspondent like Megyn just because she is stating the truth. Look, I don’t want to live in fear & that is what these “movements” are creating. Blacks will always pick up for Blacks,.I don’t know why, only once did I see a black clergyman standing over & protecting a white man during the Los Angeles riots..they were urinating on him..do some of you remember, oh & I forgot, some of them had a lot of fun dragging a poor, defenseless WHITE man out of a truck, where he was bombarded with bricks, kicked, almost to death, although he was so terrified later he decided not to press charges…he died! Picture that with the Ku Klux Klan in place of the blacks..what would have happened to them? This hatred has to stop! Schools have been integrated, workplaces, management position, government positions, etc. What else should we do? We now cannot vote as we choose, and the government is not protecting us from this privilege..When we have reporters like Megyn Kelly, merely stating the FACTS, she is condemned from certain individuals who are enjoying the statusquo. Why can’t people understand that if whites are allowed to be attacked, then it is only a matter of time that there will be no control over the government & without law & order, people will turn on themselves. We should all be proud of our country & work to preserve it, not CHANGE it to benefit one group of people..& about these groups, why…so many? People are educated now, there are few low income areas &, if there is, then you have to wonder why! In some cities, you can buy a house for $1.00. Try it!.. If you would have one family do that in a run down section, they would be targeted immediately & would have to move. Violence creates violence, love creates love..I lived in an area of Philadelphia with row homes, a long time ago, there were women so proud of their little homes that I could see them, early in the morning on their knees scrubbing the white marble steps to their little row home. In the backyard, there were morning glories or Italian herbs..& this was the city. We didn’t have much in those days, although I didn’t know it then, but we were so happy, we could walk freely down the streets, stepping into rain puddles or drifts of snow,, on our way to school. There was no hate, no violence & if there were Italian gangs, the government soon stepped in and stopped it, although there was never violence initiated among the people. I asked my husband to take me back to that lovely apartment in South Phillly. It was empty & I could look in, I could only see what I remembered, a happy but poor family, not on govt. assistance. I walked to the back of the property, down a small street where an old lady lived with cats, (Mamie was her name & she was kind & gentle). I went into the alley that led to the back of our old apt. & couldn’t believe my eyes..Filth, weeds, trash, etc. & when I glanced into the backyard, I almost cried, it was like something from a foreign country..How could this happen & why is it allowed to happen. When I left the alley, there were so many young strong men sitting on the steps of their homes, why were they not working? These are the masses that Obama wants to provide for..I’m sorry but, at my age, I have too much knowledge of how hard our people worked in those days…it was out of pride, out of need & out of respect. My mom could have gone on welfare but she refused..she was too proud so she worked & worked and died at 56. I don’t see any skinny starving people out there,as a matter of fact, I think there is now a fat epidemic..so where is the unfortunate in our population..out there smoking cigarettes on their front steps while we, the people, pay their way..It’s not fair..& if Megyn is gutsy enough to show a determined opinion of the “truth” certain groups want to shut her up so they can continue to manipulate the government, get more groups together & create more havoc in our, already, troubled lives. When will it stop? When will we find an honest head of government who will clean out the whitehouse & get in men that will attempt to solve our nation’s problems instead of adding to them. I will vote against the present administration; however, I don’t have any faith that they will ever be able to redirect this country into one of …equality!! God Bless you Megyn & God Bless America!

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Helen Gordo & my other Conservative Friends:

    “Michael Bernard Mukasey [4] (pronounced /mjuːˈkeɪzi/)[5] (Russian: Майкл Бернард Мукасей, Hebrew: מייקל מוקייסי‎, born July 28, 1941)[3] is a lawyer and former judge who served as the 81st Attorney General of the United States. Mukasey, an American lawyer, was appointed following the resignation of Alberto Gonzales. Mukasey also served for 18 years as a judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, six of those years as Chief Judge. He is the recipient of several awards, most notably the Learned Hand Medal of the Federal Bar Council.[6] Mukasey was the second Jewish U.S. Attorney General.[7] Mukasey is a partner at the international law firm Debevoise & Plimpton.[8]

    Mukasey served until January 20, 2009. It was under HIS watch that no criminal charges were pursued against the NBPP. Look at his picture on the link.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Mukasey

    Does Michael Mukasey look like a Black man to you, Helen?

    Helen writes:

    ” Picture that with the Ku Klux Klan in place of the blacks..what would have happened to them?”

    Umm…Helen, what did they teach you in school that would lead you to believe that gangs of Whites never attacked non-whites? Whether they were in nativist gangs in New York City, lynch-mobs, slave-catchers, possies? Trail of tears mean anything to you, Helen?
    Is your disdain and contempt for people with dark skin so complete that you would ignore American history so?

    Helen writes:

    “When will we find an honest head of government who will clean out the whitehouse & get in men that will attempt to solve our nation’s problems instead of adding to them. I will vote against the present administration; however, I don’t have any faith that they will ever be able to redirect this country into one of …equality!!”

    You label yourself as “old enough”, so that means you were alive for JIM CROW. Do you want to go BACK to those “good ol’ days?” Helen?

    –Cobra

  • writer

    Not talking about the criminal charges. The civil case and default judgment were already won and that’s what Holder decided to drop. Jim Crow

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Writer writes:

    “Not talking about the criminal charges. The civil case and default judgment were already won and that’s what Holder decided to drop. Jim Crow”

    So you’re agreeing with the Bush DOJ and Attorney General Mukasey, that the New Black Panther Party committed NO CRIMES outside of that polling place?

    –Cobra

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Helen-Nordo/100000884291530 Helen Nordo

    I find it difficult to reply to someone who uses the name “Cobra” sounds like an old movie, but I will make an attempt to rid you of your hatred of anyone who would oppose your views. Look, this is 2010, the civil war was a longggg time ago, whatever they put in the history books were probably written by black authors because this just goes on & on, so many people suffered in those years, not only because of color, poor people were despised, mentally ill, different nationalities, cripples ANYONE that did not fit into the norm of those days. You are thinking in the present & are obviously young enough that you never can remember what a wonderful country this once was, you are being fed a lot of lies & misconceptions. I was the only girl in my class who sat with a black girl, she was, I’m sorry to say, ignored but so was I..I was not like the other girls, I was tall & skinny so I was laughed at a lot, all the other girls & boys were way ahead of me physically so I was not accepted, of course, until I grew up but, by then, I could understand what it was like to be disliked & laughed at but I never went out for revenge. When I turned into a butterfly, from a cocoon, my life changed and..although this is not a comparison, those that have endured any form of cruel criticism should not live their lives hating others. All countries treated their people badly, look at the poor jewish race..THEY were being eliminated and…so horribly yet they do not hate the present german generation. I do not like those who take advantage of the system seeking retribution for the sins of our forefathers. You must forget the past & live now in the present. You know, in your heart, what is right & hurting others by seeking revenge by unfair tactics will only create more turmoil. I do not hate people of color & I’m tired of hearing it, It seems that only the black race seems to be doing all the crying while all other races seem to be getting along with us. You can’t change your color just as you can’t change your nationality so you have to stop all this hateful rhetoric about events we cannot change. We have merged, we are not racists, white & black are getting along, the President is of a mixed race but, because he seems to pander to the “lazies” in our society, I disagree with his methods. As I mentioned, we were once “poor” & I didn’t expect “pity” from anyone BECAUSE we were full of love…not hate! Pray to God for guidance so that he will open your heart to everyone..creating fear amongst the public will only create hate and it will grow & grow. The Black Panther movement should be disbanded, it is not for the good of ALL the people but for the detriment of those they are targeting. I worry when the next election comes. What should we do, when we want to vote, ARM ourselves..this is what worries me. Put yourself in my place, I am a senior citizen although I am in good health & sound of mine but I don’t want to PUSH myself through to a polling place..didn’t they refuse to arrest the black panthers if they attempt to assemble again at a polling place? That’s what I mean, I worry..& I’m not a racist, it just so happens, these men are black! God Bless you & God Bless America. Helen Nordo

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