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Beck: ‘Not Saying Obama Is With Terrorists …But He Is Sympathetic To Their Cause’

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One of the first things that any undergraduate student learns in their first undergraduate class is that when someone prefaces a comment with “I’m not saying (insert something honest, controversial, or potentially offensive), but…” what they really mean is that they actually do believe in whatever thing they are saying. For example, on Glenn Beck‘s radio program this morning, Mr. Beck made clear to his audience that he’s not saying that President Obama is with the terrorists, before clarifying that “he is sympathetic to their cause.”

Beck introduces the segment by noting that the U.S. government (particularly Obama) was strangely absent during the BP Oil Disaster, to which his radio show colleagues chime in to say that “it’s been like that with every crisis.” One can’t help but wonder how Beck’s critique of Obama’s distant and small government footprint squares with his oft-repeated plea for a distant and small government footprint.

But that’s not the meat of the clip below. The eyebrow raising moment comes when Beck alleges that Obama “just sees us the oppressor nation,” before saying that Obama “is not with the terrorists,” making clear that that is not what he is saying before continuing “but he is sympathetic with their cause.” To be fair, Beck (and his radio pals) seem to almost immediately recognize the potential Media Matters headline that would come from this declaration, and reshaped the initial comment to make clear that Obama was not in league with terrorists or with suicide bombers.

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  • Atticus Draco

    “Glenn Beck: Obama Is ‘Not With The Terrorists… But He Is Sympathetic To Their Cause’”

    lol
    this is news?!?
    many of us think this already

  • rubberneck

    Obama only cares for himself. He’s a total gasbag.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    Enough already! The Pillsbury Doughboy has flat gone ’round the bend.
    Looks like he’s TRYING to get fired. Must be in love with that free unemployment compensation.

  • CAINtheBULL

    Ugh. Wow. Beck can’t be for real.

  • Paul G

    SOoo…this whole blog is about what he didn’t say,,,but said but didn’t say,,,but meant to say but didn’t say..but meant,,,but was gonna say that he meant to say….but he didn’t say..but if he was gonna say what he didnt say, he would have said what he didn’t say…………..

  • TeaPartyPatriot

    If it acts in support of radical islamic muslims, and if it’s trying to destroy America like a radical islamic muslim, and if it’s as anti-Semitic as a radical islamic muslim, and it was raised as a radical islamic muslim, and if it hates America like a radical islamic muslim — then IT’S A RADICAL ISLAMIC MUSLIM !!!! DUH !

  • huntingtonboy

    I hope on his TV show he explains this using cupcakes, raisins, a fishing rod, m & m’s, a pot of boiling water, a live chicken and a half eaten do-nut.

  • Atticus Draco

    huntingtonboy said:
    I hope on his TV show he explains this using cupcakes, raisins, a fishing rod, m & m’s, a pot of boiling water, a live chicken and a half eaten do-nut.

    you forgot the frog dude

  • White Ninja

    Yes. Distant and small government footprint. Because foreign relations are things that should be dealt with by state governments. That’s exactly what Beck was saying.

  • Atticus Draco

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    If it acts in support of radical islamic muslims, and if it’s trying to destroy America like a radical islamic muslim, and if it’s as anti-Semitic as a radical islamic muslim, and it was raised as a radical islamic muslim, and if it hates America like a radical islamic muslim — then IT’S A RADICAL ISLAMIC MUSLIM !!!! DUH !

    lol,,, AMEN

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Randal/100000535186834 James Randal

    I don’t understand why teabaggers get mad when we say that the vast majority of them believe that Obama is a racist, Kenyan Muslim who is trying to destroy America?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    CAINtheBULL said:
    Ugh. Wow. Beck can’t be for real.

    Have you not heard Obama’s speeches around the world? He practically echoes Al’Qieda’s message.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Randal/100000535186834 James Randal

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    If it acts in support of radical islamic muslims, and if it’s trying to destroy America like a radical islamic muslim, and if it’s as anti-Semitic as a radical islamic muslim, and it was raised as a radical islamic muslim, and if it hates America like a radical islamic muslim — then IT’S A RADICAL ISLAMIC MUSLIM !!!! DUH !

    You are truly a teaparty patriot! Please speak to weak, upper west side liberals and let them know how you really feel about progressives, Muslims, and colored individuals.

  • juan

    As usual, Beck is Correct!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Randal/100000535186834 James Randal

    Dronetek said:
    Have you not heard Obama’s speeches around the world? He practically echoes Al’Qieda’s message.

    He wants all nations under sharia law?

  • redleaf

    Thank you, Glenn Beck.
    It’s about time someone said the obvious: Obama is an America-hater who became president so he could destroy this country from inside the White House. From the earliest ages, he’s been cavorting with America-haters (Rev. Wright, etc.) and they came up with a plan: if Obama could somehow get elected president, he could use that power to embolden his terrorist friends. That involves purposely weakening our security, using back channel communications to inform terrorists of our military plans and eventually destroying America so it can be taken over by Islam.

    And so far it’s working.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ken-Hansen/1696941384 Ken Hansen

    I think it’s great that Liberals are around to ‘decode’ and ‘interpret’ what conservatives “really mean.”

    A radio host says “I’m not saying X” so you conclude he is – brilliant!

    So when POTUS says “I’m not saying the economy has recovered” he really means it has?

    I believe the crux of Beck’s argument is the White House’s show of ‘support’ for Palestinians, even after some Palestinians snuck into a house and slaughtered several members of a Jewish family, then ‘cheered’ their victory over the Jewish occupiers.

    Calling the President ‘sympathetic’ to a cause is just that, nothing more.

    I’ve never heard Beck call for a ‘distant’ government – and how many bracket choices did POTUS share before tossing in a request for charity for Japan? And his weekend address about pay inequity?

  • kvon

    Another HAIL MARY from a fading celebrity. Next stop, Dancing with the Stars.

  • ScienceAddicto

    meh,this guy is pretty irrelevant now.Just another baseless inaccurate attack on our current great president,Barack Hussein Obama.Who’s currently enjoying a healthy 50% approval rating….. Like i said before guys,keep at it! The more you guys pound away with all the; “OBAMA IS A MUSLIM!!!” “OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!” “OBAMA FROM KENYA!!” ….the closer he gets to that second term.Did i mention that economists far and wide,Liberal and Conservative are already predicting that the unemployment rate will be below the 8.0% mark by 2012? Just make sure you guys spend lot’s of time looking for that REAL birth certificate! The REAL one. LOL!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Randal/100000535186834 James Randal

    James Randal said:
    I don’t understand why teabaggers get mad when we say that the vast majority of them believe that Obama is a racist, Kenyan Muslim who is trying to destroy America?

    To those individuals who gave this comment a thumbs down, PLEASE tell me where I am wrong.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Randal/100000535186834 James Randal

    redleaf said:
    Thank you, Glenn Beck.It’s about time someone said the obvious: Obama is an America-hater who became president so he could destroy this country from inside the White House. From the earliest ages, he’s been cavorting with America-haters (Rev. Wright, etc.) and they came up with a plan: if Obama could somehow get elected president, he could use that power to embolden his terrorist friends. That involves purposely weakening our security, using back channel communications to inform terrorists of our military plans and eventually destroying America so it can be taken over by Islam. And so far it’s working.

    3 teabaggers gave this comment a thumbs up! This might sound strange, but I am not mad at you for posting this comment. Instead, I want you to let the liberal media know how you really feel about the world and president Obama. Please let the liberal media know that you and your fellow teabaggers actually believe in this crap. It will be a great help to us.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Hmmmm? I am trying to figure out what part of what Beck said that was wrong. Obama has proclaimed that our nation has treated other nations wrong. He has apologized for our past. If you listen to his pastor for 20 years, that is what he has always said. Obama is just repeating what Rev.Wright taught him.
    Reb. Wright said that 911 was our chickens coming home to roost.

    Obama doesn’t want to close the borders and he will not prosecute illegals. He allows sanctuary cities.
    There is NO doubt he thinks the people that attack us have some legitimate reasons to do it.
    Obama is a community agitator. He likes agitators.

  • http://politicallyincorrectlibertarian.wordpress.com PoliticallyIncorrectLibertarian

    Why shouldn’t he be? He goes around the world apologizing for America, he doesn’t believe in “American exceptionalism,” he wants to spread the wealth, he wanted to close Guantanamo. I’m shocked Osama Bin Laden hasn’t been invited to the White House!

    Restaurant Owner Threatened for ‘No Speak English, No Service’ sign.
    http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/2011/03/restaurant-owner-threatened-for-no.html

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    James Randal said:
    To those individuals who gave this comment a thumbs down, PLEASE tell me where I am wrong.

    LOL, you don’t get it. You have established by your previous comments that anything you say is nonsense and deserves a thumbs down without reading it. Congratulations, you have achieved that status faster than anyone I can remember. At least you use your real name and you stand behind the ignorance you post.

  • TfT

    Whats up with youColby? you write a story that isn’t a story at all, you even tell us it isn’t a story, but you write about it anyway? This is like the third, fourth, fifth, tenth??? article you have written about nothing lately? Do you get paid by the word or something? Cuz there certainly isn’t any substance to your stuff of late.

  • Resistance Is Futile

    Dronetek said:
    Have you not heard Obama’s speeches around the world? He practically echoes Al’Qieda’s message.

    You are a low down, dirty liar!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Randal/100000535186834 James Randal

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Hmmmm? I am trying to figure out what part of what Beck said that was wrong. Obama has proclaimed that our nation has treated other nations wrong. He has apologized for our past. If you listen to his pastor for 20 years, that is what he has always said. Obama is just repeating what Rev.Wright taught him.Reb. Wright said that 911 was our chickens coming home to roost. Obama doesn’t want to close the borders and he will not prosecute illegals. He allows sanctuary cities.There is NO doubt he thinks the people that attack us have some legitimate reasons to do it.Obama is a community agitator. He likes agitators.

    You must be getting senile, old man. Terrorists want the whole world under Sharia law. If you compare a man to them, he better have the exact same views or else you are blowing smoke out of your ass. So according to that logic, anyone who believes that we made mistakes in the past and we have to make changes in order to avoid similar problems in the future, sympathizes with terrorists?

  • The Lantern of Truth

    gordonbloyershow said:
    You have established by your previous comments that anything you say is nonsense

    Well said , Gordon .
    Nut needs to calm down .

  • redleaf

    James Randal said:
    3 teabaggers gave this comment a thumbs up! This might sound strange, but I am not mad at you for posting this comment. Instead, I want you to let the liberal media know how you really feel about the world and president Obama. Please let the liberal media know that you and your fellow teabaggers actually believe in this crap. It will be a great help to us.

    Not only do I believe it, I didn’t go far enough. I believe that if Obama has his way, the country will be taken over by Islam. 300 million Americans (or as many as possible) will be dead and the country will be used as a base to take on the rest of North America. This is Obama’s plan. Soften our commitment against terrorism while terrorists sharpen their swords. Obviously, this will happen long after Obama is gone from office. But his job was to lay the groundwork for the death of America and its takeover by terrorists. And that, I think it’s safe to say, he has done. Thanks to the lamestream media.

  • felixw

    Obama is not really sympathetic to terrorists. But he does do backflips to avoid any mention of Islamic terrorism. And the whole administration is in a state of intense denial of the source of the terrorist threat, fueled by political correctness gone wild. Heck, an administration adviser was trying to tell us the other day that the Muslim Brotherhood is a secular organization. Muslim Brother = secular???? This kind of deliberate unwillingness to understand the true state of play in the world today is intensely dangerous. If some leftwing journalist wants to live in denial, that’s one thing. But when the Executive branch of government refuses to comprehend reality, and prefers political correctness, on matters on national and personal security, it puts all of us in danger.

  • The Tea Weasel®

    Anytime Becko, the political clown starts, off with “Now I’m not saying….”, you can be sure there will be some browneye making, full tilt nutso wingnut, out of the park way past left field, gosh you can’t make this shit up but I still do because my listeners are idiots batshit craziness.

    That being said, he does keep the muties occupied for several hours a day, so its a good thing. Keep the faith Becko lovers. He has your best interests at heart, along with your seeds and some of that slightly overpriced gold, which you should run out and buy some of right now.

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    felixw said:
    Obama is not really sympathetic to terrorists. But he does do backflips to avoid any mention of Islamic terrorism. And the whole administration is in a state of intense denial of the source of the terrorist threat, fueled by political correctness gone wild. Heck, an administration adviser was trying to tell us the other day that the Muslim Brotherhood is a secular organization. Muslim Brother = secular???? This kind of deliberate unwillingness to understand the true state of play in the world today is intensely dangerous. If some leftwing journalist wants to live in denial, that’s one thing. But when the Executive branch of government refuses to comprehend reality, and prefers political correctness, on matters on national and personal security, it puts all of us in danger.

    He doesn’t want to mention “islamic terrorism” because we are trying to foster relationships with middle eastern countries because they control oil. You can’t run around calling everyone a terrorist.. unless you want less and less options in the world political and financial arena.

  • lauwda

    redleaf said:
    Not only do I believe it, I didn’t go far enough. I believe that if Obama has his way, the country will be taken over by Islam. 300 million Americans (or as many as possible) will be dead and the country will be used as a base to take on the rest of North America. This is Obama’s plan. Soften our commitment against terrorism while terrorists sharpen their swords. Obviously, this will happen long after Obama is gone from office. But his job was to lay the groundwork for the death of America and its takeover by terrorists. And that, I think it’s safe to say, he has done. Thanks to the lamestream media.

    Thats why most Americans can’t relate themselves to the likes of Palin or Bachmann. Teabaggers like yourself give a bad name to the tea party.

  • lauwda

    Snowspot said:
    He doesn’t want to mention “islamic terrorism” because we are trying to foster relationships with middle eastern countries because they control oil. You can’t run around calling everyone a terrorist.. unless you want less and less options in the world political and financial arena.

    thats cause teabagger don’t understand psychology, they only understand the language of sheep.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Randal/100000535186834 James Randal

    gordonbloyershow said:
    LOL, you don’t get it. You have established by your previous comments that anything you say is nonsense and deserves a thumbs down without reading it. Congratulations, you have achieved that status faster than anyone I can remember. At least you use your real name and you stand behind the ignorance you post.

    Given the fact that you believe Glenn Beck is your prophet and actually accept this bullshit as truth, I wouldn’t talk about ignorance. Given the fact that the majority of people who comment on this blog are teabagger/GOP pigs, I don’t feel the slightest bit of sadness when seeing thumbs down. Most of my comments are aimed at weak, Jon Stewart liberals who do not realize the threath teabagger/GOP pigs like you pose to their physical well-being. Unlike you savages, most liberals believe in this fairy tale that teabaggers are sensible people who want to co-exist with them. While you are loading up on guns and fantasizing about killing some evil colored liberal who tries to break into your home, most upper westside liberals are watching NPR and trying to have open minds and hearts.

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/201103170029

  • timcajun

    redleaf says:

    Not only do I believe it, I didn’t go far enough. I believe that if Obama has his way, the country will be taken over by Islam. 300 million Americans (or as many as possible) will be dead and the country will be used as a base to take on the rest of North America. This is Obama’s plan. Soften our commitment against terrorism while terrorists sharpen their swords. Obviously, this will happen long after Obama is gone from office. But his job was to lay the groundwork for the death of America and its takeover by terrorists. And that, I think it’s safe to say, he has done. Thanks to the lamestream media.
    ……………………………..
    Keep talking like this, for this is the kind of moron statement (what Beck told you to say) that causes visits from the men in black or white !(coats)

  • http://MsUnderestimated.com MsUnderestimated

    James Randal said:
    I don’t understand why teabaggers get mad when we say that the vast majority of them believe that Obama is a racist, Kenyan Muslim who is trying to destroy America?

    If I’m a teabagger, you’re a donkey-puncher.

  • catfishjuggling

    It is going to be fun to watch Glen amp up the crazy as he closes in on the end of his Fox contract. This should be fun.

  • Paul G

    TfT said:
    Whats up with youColby? you write a story that isn’t a story at all, you even tell us it isn’t a story, but you write about it anyway? This is like the third, fourth, fifth, tenth??? article you have written about nothing lately? Do you get paid by the word or something? Cuz there certainly isn’t any substance to your stuff of late.

    TY

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Judging from the comments from you loony libs, Beck has hit a nerve. Beck is right and you are upset because you know it! Like someone else reminded us, he’s spent a great deal of time apologizing for America. One could conclude from that that he sympathizes with those that hate us, no? Does that mean he wants to crash a plane into the Trade Center? No, it means he can understand why someone would want to. The fact that you seem to be denying that is the interesting part.

  • stoogedudes

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    If it acts in support of radical islamic muslims

    No.

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    if it’s trying to destroy America like a radical islamic muslim,

    No.

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    if it’s as anti-Semitic as a radical islamic muslim

    No.

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    it was raised as a radical islamic muslim

    No.

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    if it hates America like a radical islamic muslim

    No.

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    IT’S A RADICAL ISLAMIC MUSLIM !!!! DUH !

    Uhh…no. 0 for 6, TPP. By the way, you could save yourself some typing by just saying radical Muslim, since Islamic Muslim is redundant.

    Dronetek said:
    Have you not heard Obama’s speeches around the world? He practically echoes Al’Qieda’s message.

    Yep, like when he said that anyone who doesn’t submit to Allah must die and that Americans are infidels.

  • DEFENDER-90

    Snowspot–’He doesn’t want to “mention Islamic terrorism” why “middle eastern countries they control oil”.

    You just made an excellent case for drilling for more of our own oil and natural gas.

  • lauwda

    MsUnderestimated said:
    If I’m a teabagger, you’re a donkey-puncher.

    Why the name calling? we refer to you guys as teabaggers because thats what the tea party wanted to be known as. In the beginning your chants were “Tea bag _______!!!!” Teabag this, teabag that. Hence why we call you teabaggers. And now your offended? just like someone who takes a crap is a crapper.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Snowjob says:

    He doesn’t want to mention “islamic terrorism” because we are trying to foster relationships with middle eastern countries because they control oil. You can’t run around calling everyone a terrorist.. unless you want less and less options in the world political and financial arena.

    Bullcrap! If there IS a terrorist attack, you should be able to acknowledge that. He has NO problem calling police in our own country stupid, yet he couldn’t bring himself to call the Ft. Hood shooting what it was, an attack by a Muslim Extremist!! Thanks for proving Beck right!

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    DEFENDER-90 said:
    Snowspot–’He doesn’t want to “mention Islamic terrorism” why “middle eastern countries they control oil”.

    You just made an excellent case for drilling for more of our own oil and natural gas.

    I’d rather ruin someone else’s country, actually.

  • Arkansas Steve

    COLBY,

    TfT said:
    Whats up with youColby? you write a story that isn’t a story at all, you even tell us it isn’t a story, but you write about it anyway? This is like the third, fourth, fifth, tenth??? article you have written about nothing lately? Do you get paid by the word or something? Cuz there certainly isn’t any substance to your stuff of late.

    COLBY,
    Your headline misleads ALL of us.
    Your story is far too lame & weak to make up for the crappy headline.
    The only way to make an intelligeent comment is to listen carefully to the AUDIO, maybe twice.

    By your headline, I thought Glenn Beck stepped in it, and was disappointed in HIM.
    After listening to the audio, I thought his comments were reasonable, and was disappointed in YOU.

  • CosmosDan

    Did he mention Mau Mau in there anywhere , because that sounds all anti-American and scary?

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    If we have oil, we should save it, until the middle east starts running out. We have a big oil reserve too, we should just keep building it up and biding our time.

    Oil is a lame source of energy though, it’s going to run out. We should find something else to produce energy and not nuclear, since it could cover the US in a big radiation plume when a reactor goes down.

  • redleaf

    James Randal said:
    Given the fact that you believe Glenn Beck is your prophet and actually accept this bullshit as truth, I wouldn’t talk about ignorance. Given the fact that the majority of people who comment on this blog are teabagger/GOP pigs, I don’t feel the slightest bit of sadness when seeing thumbs down. Most of my comments are aimed at weak, Jon Stewart liberals who do not realize the threath teabagger/GOP pigs like you pose to their physical well-being. Unlike you savages, most liberals believe in this fairy tale that teabaggers are sensible people who want to co-exist with them. While you are loading up on guns and fantasizing about killing some evil colored liberal who tries to break into your home, most upper westside liberals are watching NPR and trying to have open minds and hearts.

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/201103170029

    “Open hearts and minds” leads to terrorist-coddling because everything is love and friendship.
    There are no open hearts and minds when literally one billion terrorists are aiming to destroy your country. Yes, not all of the 1 billion Muslims are terrorists..yet. But that’s where Obama and the lamestream media come in. They soften our resolve with talk of open hearts and minds. This embolden terrorists. Thank you Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity for telling the truth about the tragic direction of our terrorist-loving country.

  • DEFENDER-90

    Snowspot—I can dig it, but I want to be self sufficent as much as possible.

  • beelzeboob

    Atticus Draco said:
    lol,,, AMEN

    Atticus Draco said:
    lol,,, AMEN

    and I second that Amen y’all! I dunno why we don gohead an arress that muzlim! he prolly gonne gohead and blow up the damn whitehouse an, hold on, wher’d i put them slim jims, and hell prolly bom izrael, and then hell prolly take all ur mony an built a gian moske! doan tred on me!! bachmann 2012!!!

  • CosmosDan

    Carefully avoided mentioning black Americans in the oppression part didn’t he?

  • CosmosDan

    Beck doesn’t see us a oppressive at all.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo3a8VigHyo

  • lauwda

    redleaf said:
    “Open hearts and minds” leads to terrorist-coddling because everything is love and friendship.
    There are no open hearts and minds when literally one billion terrorists are aiming to destroy your country. Yes, not all of the 1 billion Muslims are terrorists..yet. But that’s where Obama and the lamestream media come in. They soften our resolve with talk of open hearts and minds. This embolden terrorists. Thank you Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity for telling the truth about the tragic direction of our terrorist-loving country.

    Thank you Glenn Beck? really? Beck says “only 23% of Americans agree with the Palestinians” like our foreign policy should be based on what the American people think. Why do people take this guy seriously? It’s amazing that there is even one single American who believes in this guy’s bullshit.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Snowjob says:

    Oil is a lame source of energy though, it’s going to run out. We should find something else to produce energy and not nuclear, since it could cover the US in a big radiation plume when a reactor goes down.

    Inconvenient Truth: Wind Energy Has Killed More Americans Than Nuclear

    There has been quite a bit of hysteria among some major media outlets in the past few days regarding the potential dangers of nuclear power. Some have even suggested that the benefits of nuclear energy do not outweigh its potential dangers to human life.

    The dangers of nuclear power, while serious, need to be put in perspective. To that end, here’s an interesting fact you won’t be hearing from the mainstream press: wind energy has killed more Americans than nuclear energy.

    You read that right. According to the Caithness Windfarm Information Forum, there were 35 fatalities associated with wind turbines in the United States from 1970 through 2010. Nuclear energy, by contrast, did not kill a single American in that time.

    The meltdown at Three Mile Island in 1979 did not kill or injure anyone, since the power plant’s cement containment apparatus did its job – the safety measures put in place were effective. Apparently the safety measures associated with wind energy are not adequate to prevent loss of life.

    Nuclear accounts for about nine percent of America’s energy, according to the Energy Information Administration, and has yet to cause a single fatality here. Wind, on the other hand, provides the United States with only 0.7 percent of its energy, and has been responsible for 35 deaths in the United States alone. So if we’re trying to weigh the costs and benefits of each, it seems wind fares far worse than nuclear. Yet no one seems to be discussing plans to halt production of all new wind farms until Americans’ safety can be guaranteed.

    Of course there are potential dangers to nuclear energy that the nation, thankfully, has not had to endure. But when assessing the dangers of a given technology, it usually helps to look at what has actually happened, not what could maybe, possibly, conceivably happen in the event of a Biblical-scale disaster.

    Unfortunately, doomsday scenarios tend to get far more media play than level-headed analysis.

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2011/03/17/inconvenient-truth-wind-energy-has-killed-more-americans-nuclear#ixzz1GtCydpKk

  • lauwda

    Thank you Glenn Beck? really? Beck says “only 23% of Americans agree with the Palestinians” like our foreign policy should be based on what the American people think. Why do people take this guy seriously? It’s amazing that there is even one single American who believes in this guy’s bullshit.

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Snowjob says:

    Oil is a lame source of energy though, it’s going to run out. We should find something else to produce energy and not nuclear, since it could cover the US in a big radiation plume when a reactor goes down.

    Inconvenient Truth: Wind Energy Has Killed More Americans Than Nuclear

    There has been quite a bit of hysteria among some major media outlets in the past few days regarding the potential dangers of nuclear power. Some have even suggested that the benefits of nuclear energy do not outweigh its potential dangers to human life.

    The dangers of nuclear power, while serious, need to be put in perspective. To that end, here’s an interesting fact you won’t be hearing from the mainstream press: wind energy has killed more Americans than nuclear energy.

    You read that right. According to the Caithness Windfarm Information Forum, there were 35 fatalities associated with wind turbines in the United States from 1970 through 2010. Nuclear energy, by contrast, did not kill a single American in that time.

    The meltdown at Three Mile Island in 1979 did not kill or injure anyone, since the power plant’s cement containment apparatus did its job – the safety measures put in place were effective. Apparently the safety measures associated with wind energy are not adequate to prevent loss of life.

    Nuclear accounts for about nine percent of America’s energy, according to the Energy Information Administration, and has yet to cause a single fatality here. Wind, on the other hand, provides the United States with only 0.7 percent of its energy, and has been responsible for 35 deaths in the United States alone. So if we’re trying to weigh the costs and benefits of each, it seems wind fares far worse than nuclear. Yet no one seems to be discussing plans to halt production of all new wind farms until Americans’ safety can be guaranteed.

    Of course there are potential dangers to nuclear energy that the nation, thankfully, has not had to endure. But when assessing the dangers of a given technology, it usually helps to look at what has actually happened, not what could maybe, possibly, conceivably happen in the event of a Biblical-scale disaster.

    Unfortunately, doomsday scenarios tend to get far more media play than level-headed analysis.

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2011/03/17/inconvenient-truth-wind-energy-has-killed-more-americans-nuclear#ixzz1GtCydpKk

    Yep, the wind poses more of a threat than nuclear power, OK thanks for the company BS PR speak, lol. You don’t seem to care about your own life. Japan just showed us how easy it is for things to go out of control in a nuclear power plant… We need to start using different energy sources like WIND and SOLAR.

  • justanotherconservative

    Resistance Is Futile said:
    You are a low down, dirty liar!

    no he’s not. this is an observable truth.

    redleaf said:
    Not only do I believe it, I didn’t go far enough. I believe that if Obama has his way, the country will be taken over by Islam. 300 million Americans (or as many as possible) will be dead and the country will be used as a base to take on the rest of North America. This is Obama’s plan. Soften our commitment against terrorism while terrorists sharpen their swords. Obviously, this will happen long after Obama is gone from office. But his job was to lay the groundwork for the death of America and its takeover by terrorists. And that, I think it’s safe to say, he has done. Thanks to the lamestream media.

    exactly. well said.

  • minorityreport

    The election of the first half-black American president is really driving some with people off the edge. This level of paranoid hatred is only comparable to Nazi- Germany. Just Imagine if he was 100% black. Some of you guys would be blowing your brains out!!!!

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Minority report, take your racism comments and shove them! No matter how many times you insist that’s why we don’t like him, it won’t make it true. It’s you with the race problem, not us.

  • WillP

    Embarrassing.

  • Paul G

    Hey!! you self describing Libs!!! get off the soap box and REALLY see where this country is heading!
    if you are a 20yo poster.u don’t know what this country was like..if your 50(like me)we remember how the country started to go to hell in a hand basket. to you posters that are 100+…God bless…lmao not lmao

  • minorityreport

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Minority report, take your racism comments and shove them! No matter how many times you insist that’s why we don’t like him, it won’t make it true. It’s you with the race problem, not us.

    You know I am correct deep inside you. There are some white people who are constantly constipated by the thought of having a half – black president. They disguise it with social and economic policies but we already know what the deal is!! And You

  • Liberal Tormentor

    No Minority report, you are NOT correct. You put Allan West or Condi Rice on the ballot and I’d vote for them in a heartbeat. It’s his policies I loathe.

  • possibly

    Beck needs to be fired immediately.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    HAHAHA, keep dreaming, possibly the dumbest poster at Mediaite!

  • valkyrie101

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    No Minority report, you are NOT correct. You put Allan West or Condi Rice on the ballot and I’d vote for them in a heartbeat. It’s his policies I loathe.

    Allan west? Well he does call himself a right wing extremist. And you are good with that?

  • BFD

    I’m not saying I wish Beck were dead, but I am sympathetic with those who do..

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    Day 36 since Henny Glenny was struck by an overwhelming feeling that Egypt is the beginning of a growing evil that is going to spread a global Muslim caliphate and with the help of the communists and progressives create a New World Order ending our way of life as we know it.

  • WillP

    catfishjuggling said:
    It is going to be fun to watch Glen amp up the crazy as he closes in on the end of his Fox contract. This should be fun.

    Glenn Beck is an attention whore. The kid in the back of the class who couldn’t stop acting out to gain attention has grown up. The only difference now is that he has millions versus a dozen people paying attention. With his ratings falling off the cliff you can expect him to make more soundbites like this. That’s the obvious downside towards being constantly outrageous. He is in a constant battle to take things to the next level. As a result, this can make him be ludicrous and unbalanced such as calling the president a racist or now claiming he is sypathetic to the cause of terrorists.
    As for taking aim at Ailes and Fox at the end of his contract, that would be very disingenuous. Ailes gave him a platform that took him from nowhere on Headline News to stardom at Fox News. He should be grateful and considerate and take it like a man if they don’t wish to renew his contract.
    Rememeber this is the same man who attempted to usurp the legacy of Martin Luther King staging a rally on his anniversary last summer. So we’re not talking about a small ego here. But, I would hope that he doesn’t appeal to grievance and persecution if Ailes declines to renew his contract. It would be the better thing for his career and for Fox News.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Val says:

    Allan west? Well he does call himself a right wing extremist. And you are good with that?

    I think you just don’t like him because he’s black! Now see how stupid that sounds? To you libs, anyone who doesn’t agree with your brand of loony liberalism IS a right wing extremist. I couldn’t possibly care any less that you think that.

  • valkyrie101

    possibly said:
    Beck needs to be fired immediately.

    No way, Beck is excellent.

  • ThereWereNoWMDs

    This allows him to play the censorship card when he inevitably gets canned. He’ll release a statement along the lines of “The lamestream media is disturbed by the hidden truths that I reveal so they silenced me.” It’s his last ditch effort at martyrdom.

  • Lover

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Val says:

    Allan west? Well he does call himself a right wing extremist. And you are good with that?

    I think you just don’t like him because he’s black! Now see how stupid that sounds? To you libs, anyone who doesn’t agree with your brand of loony liberalism IS a right wing extremist. I couldn’t possibly care any less that you think that.

    It’s no secret that the progressives HATE black Republicans

  • Paul G

    WillP said:
    WillP/BFD..I’m gonna pick you guys off one by one…I get it that you don’t like Beck. I get it that you hate republicans..I get it that you hate Fox. And i guess that’s ok…but outside of ur(ilk) cut and pastes about Palin being the stupidest woman and Bachmann being an idiot…you guys are smart. u click these sites because either you do care and are smart. or you are a troll…im hoping ur smart and not a troll…all im saying is dont ‘lump’ all repubs in the same ‘lump’ you would want me to ”lump’ all dems…I’m not/wasn’t a Bush fan..but my/our country comes first…

  • redleaf

    One of the my great joys in life is posting inflamed conservative rhetoric and seeing how many ignorant neanderthal conservatives agree with me. I admit my take was pretty low this time. It’s been downright enormous in the past. But if I’ve exposed even one racist NeoCon for the stupid, hateful, narrow-minded, racist, mouth-breathing idiot that he is, I would consider my life’s work a success.

    In the meantime, don’t forget, Cons: Obama’s election is part of a coordinated plan between himself and terrorists to facilitate a full-scale Islamic takeover of the United States! He is personally helping terrorists plan their attacks!!! BELIEVE IT, CONS!!! IT CAN ONLY BE TRUE!!!!!

  • ThereWereNoWMDs

    Glenn Beck’s one shot at becoming relevant is to drive the crazy train off the cliff. Otherwise people ignore him and he fades away.

  • skyfet

    Not saying Beck his mad, but he acts like a lunatic.

  • valkyrie101

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Val says: Allan west? Well he does call himself a right wing extremist. And you are good with that? I think you just don’t like him because he’s black! Now see how stupid that sounds? To you libs, anyone who doesn’t agree with your brand of loony liberalism IS a right wing extremist. I couldn’t possibly care any less that you think that.

    No, I mean he called himself that. I would not call him an extremist because he is merely par for the course over there on the right. He is an honest man, however.

  • Dookiestix

    What’s really sad is that there are people who buy his crap, hook, line and sinker. What a sad testament to the intelligence of a portion of this country. And Republicans want to slash education funding?

    Anyone see a pattern here?

  • Dookiestix

    Paul G said:
    SOoo…this whole blog is about what he didn’t say,,,but said but didn’t say,,,but meant to say but didn’t say..but meant,,,but was gonna say that he meant to say….but he didn’t say..but if he was gonna say what he didnt say, he would have said what he didn’t say…………..

    Everything he says is BS. What’s your point?

  • valkyrie101

    skyfet said:
    Not saying Beck his mad, but he acts like a lunatic.

    I think he wants to get fired under section 8. Intentionally, so he can move on.

  • redleaf

    The problem is not Beck acting like a lunatic.
    As a television personality, he can act any way he wants to generate ratings.
    The problem is that millions of people not only take him seriously, but actually base their political opinions on his lunatic rantings. They’re just hateful, ignorant, ill-informed, gullible lunatics who believe Beck is one of them.
    If they went away, Beck would go away.
    Unfortunately, the country is filled with inbred, mouth-breathing racists who can’t think for themselves and turn to sideshow clowns like Beck for their opinions.

  • cjd ohio 1

    redleaf said:
    .Unfortunately, the country is filled with inbred, mouth-breathing racists who can’t think for themselves and turn to sideshow clowns like Beck for their opinions.

    why do you stay in a country with all the inbred and racist people?

  • redleaf

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    why do you stay in a country with all the inbred and racist people?

    This comment is obviously the work of a juvenile mind, but I’m bored, so let’s discuss.
    So because there are stupid people in America, I’m supposed to move to Brazil or Iceland?
    is that your point? Or are you saying that because I criticize the sanity of some of my countrymen, I hate America and love terrorism?

  • Garth

    Listen, I’m not saying the Rodeo Clown has a personality disorder, I’m just saying he spends a great deal of time in the psych unit.

  • screwauger

    Colby doesn’t seem to understand that the staged and rehearsed banter between Beck and his “pals” is designed for the sole purpose of tweaking folks like Colby and getting them to post a Thread such as this one. Frikkin hilarious! OMG fall on the floor funny;
    “To be fair, Beck (and his radio pals) seem to almost immediately recognize the potential Media Matters headline that would come from this declaration, and reshaped the initial comment to make clear that Obama was not in league with terrorists or with suicide bombers.”

    Colby that is priceless! Gullible much hahahahahahaha

  • cjd ohio 1

    redleaf said:
    This comment is obviously the work of a juvenile mind, but I’m bored, so let’s discuss.So because there are stupid people in America, I’m supposed to move to Brazil or Iceland?is that your point? Or are you saying that because I criticize the sanity of some of my countrymen, I hate America and love terrorism?

    not some…….the country is filled with is what you said

  • cjd ohio 1

    juvenile mind….lol. read you own post lol

  • redleaf

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    not some…….the country is filled with is what you said

    I’m obviously in the presence of a superior mind, so I’ll just throw in the towel.
    You win.
    Here’s a lollipop.

  • screwauger

    Dookiestix said:
    What’s really sad is that there are people who buy his crap, hook, line and sinker. What a sad testament to the intelligence of a portion of this country. And Republicans want to slash education funding?

    Anyone see a pattern here?

    Everything he says is BS. What’s your point?

    Ive seen the pattern since he was elected. I’m with ya bud

  • cjd ohio 1

    redleaf said:
    I’m obviously in the presence of a superior mind, so I’ll just throw in the towel.You win.Here’s a lollipop.

    no thanks, lol

  • Garth

    screwauger said:
    Colby doesn’t seem to understand that the staged and rehearsed banter between Beck and his “pals” is designed for the sole purpose of tweaking folks like Colby and getting them to post a Thread such as this one. Frikkin hilarious! OMG fall on the floor funny;
    “To be fair, Beck (and his radio pals) seem to almost immediately recognize the potential Media Matters headline that would come from this declaration, and reshaped the initial comment to make clear that Obama was not in league with terrorists or with suicide bombers.”

    Colby that is priceless! Gullible much hahahahahahaha

    Yeah, sure. You are a moron who spends his pathetic days buying this bullshit and calling it profound. You are a sad a pathetic moron. Having said that your utter stupidity is very entertaining and maybe we can thank The Rodeo Clown for that.

  • screwauger

    Garth said:
    Yeah, sure. You are a moron who spends his pathetic days buying this bullshit and calling it profound. You are a sad a pathetic moron. Having said that your utter stupidity is very entertaining and maybe we can thank The Rodeo Clown for that.

    If ya only knew lol.
    now, as for your rude, inappropriate, and always off topic personal attack toward me. ppppfffftttttt

  • Garth

    screwauger said:
    If ya only knew lol.
    now, as for your rude, inappropriate, and always off topic personal attack toward me. ppppfffftttttt

    There not off topic at all. You are a moron and, yes its obvious, but people should still be made aware of your extreme density.

  • screwauger

    ppppffffftttt

  • Garth

    screwauger said:
    ppppffffftttt

    Most intelligent thing you’ve said. Seriously.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Jones/1384303476 Chris Jones

    If you look at Obama’s hard leftist background there’s no doubt that he views America as the problem in the world rather than the solution. His entire adult life has been spent working alongside the most radical left wing people in America.

  • felixw

    Snowspot said:
    He doesn’t want to mention “islamic terrorism” because we are trying to foster relationships with middle eastern countries because they control oil. You can’t run around calling everyone a terrorist.. unless you want less and less options in the world political and financial arena.

    Wake up. Obama is trying stir up turmoil and regime change in these countries. Read the bloody newspapers, my friend. Ask Hosni Mubarak how much Obama was trying to foster good relationships with his adminstration. Check with Mr. Gadaffi on the goodwill coming from Mr. Obama.

    Obama is — I repeat — unable to use the words “terrorism” and Islamic” in the same sentence. And his friends in the media bend over backward repeating “You can’t judge all Muslims on the basis of a handful of people.” True. But these are the same reporters did just that when covering the tea parties, finding one signholder in a thousand, and building their whole coverage from that angle. The current day Left takes hypocrisy to new levels, and anyone not caught up in a ideological fog can see it in five seconds.

  • redleaf

    felixw said:
    Wake up. Obama is trying stir up turmoil and regime change in these countries. Read the bloody newspapers, my friend. Ask Hosni Mubarak how much Obama was trying to foster good relationships with his adminstration. Check with Mr. Gadaffi on the goodwill coming from Mr. Obama.

    Obama is — I repeat — unable to use the words “terrorism” and Islamic” in the same sentence. And his friends in the media bend over backward repeating “You can’t judge all Muslims on the basis of a handful of people.” True. But these are the same reporters did just that when covering the tea parties, finding one signholder in a thousand, and building their whole coverage from that angle. The current day Left takes hypocrisy to new levels, and anyone not caught up in a ideological fog can see it in five seconds.

    Conservatives cannot read newspapers. They’ve been indoctrinated by Rush, Sean, Glenn, etc., to believe that newspapers are part of the lamestream media and they will just tell you liberal lies. So, naturally, if you want to know the real truth, the only places to turn are their radio and TV shows.

    This is the evil genius of the right wing media machine: they want to protect you from an enemy they created. So no, a conservative will not be reading newspaper for facts. They depend on Sean, Rush, Glenn and FNC for their facts.

  • erin

    While I think Rush, Coulter, etc., don’t actually believe half of what they say–they just like the ratings and reactions they get from people–Beck seems like he actually believes his delusional conspiracies. I don’t think he is just performing. I think he is a very disturbed person who is going more and more off the deep end. His ratings are way down, and FOX is considering dropping him.

  • TheEagle

    Chris Jones said:
    If you look at Obama’s hard leftist background there’s no doubt that he views America as the problem in the world rather than the solution. His entire adult life has been spent working alongside the most radical left wing people in America.

    Jesuit priests are the most radical left wing people?

  • WillP

    Chris Jones said:
    If you look at Obama’s hard leftist background there’s no doubt that he views America as the problem in the world rather than the solution. His entire adult life has been spent working alongside the most radical left wing people in America.

    I find it the worst case of hypocrisy in my lifetime and absolutely humorous that there were no tea parties or calling the president a socialist or anti-american when George Bush happened to be the president. Face it. Obama is hated by you and other people on the far Right not for his policies, but because he is a black man with an Arabic last name. And that is too different and unusual to accept.

  • GlennBovineKoldys

    I am not saying people abusing alcohol and drugs develop life long disorders…

    I am just saying Glenn Beck turned out OK after he converted to mormonism to have a constant supply of …

  • eingriff

    Beck does not yet perceive that Obama is probably an enemy agent. This might seem extreme, but think about it. Harold Wilson was a Soviet mole while English Prime Minister. At least one Prime Minister of India was a CIA agent. Quisling had to have been a mole before he made the Norwegian military a welcome mat for German invaders. Alger Hiss was a prospective Secretary of State before was outed by Whittaker Chambers. The U.S. had a mole high in the Kremlin in the Cuban missile crisis (when I was taking Defense Policy Seminar under Barton Leach and Henry Kissinger). In the nature of things, the known examples would represent only a small fraction of the actual ones.
    It is prudent in light of history to monitor other alumni of my law school, the little red schoolhouse on the Charles. In “Alger Hiss’s Looking-Glass Wars: The Covert Life of a Soviet Spy”, (Oxford University Press 2004) G. Edward White wonders how Hiss convinced many of his innocence “without producing any new evidence” (page xviii). White says his book title’s reference to “Looking-Glass Wars” is drawn from John le Carre’s remark that spies wage looking-glass wars, in turn a reference to how characters in Lewis Carroll’s Alice in Wonderland books pass back and forth through the looking glass (page xix). White says (page xx):
    “The other reason Hiss remains important is that he exemplifies a comparatively unusual type of human that continues to inhabit our world. Hiss was one of those rare individuals whose traits and characteristics were complemented by, rather than conflicting with, the secret world of a professional spy. Far from finding the norms of duplicity that mark the secret world disquieting, Hiss appears to have taken pleasure in the pursuit of covert goals and in the creation of devices to shield that pursuit from others. And Hiss was remarkably skillful and effective in those tasks. He operated as a high-level undercover Soviet agent in the federal government for 11 years, and his career in the federal government thrived during that period, so that by 1945 he was one of the most important officials in the State Department, a possible future secretary of state. He was only exposed because of his fortuitous interaction with Chambers. After being released from prison, he launched and publicized an elaborate cover story portraying himself as an innocent scapegoat framed for partisan reasons, and over the years he convinced a large number of Americans that the story was true.”
    This could as well be a profile of the Great Mole, “a comparatively unusual type of human . . . . whose traits and characteristics [are] complemented by, rather than conflicting with, the secret world of a professional spy. Far from finding the norms of duplicity that mark the secret world disquieting, [the Great Mole] appears to [take] pleasure in the pursuit of covert goals and in the creation of devices to shield that pursuit from others.”
    While many of the Great Pretender’s purportedly official actions seem puzzling and irrational for a President, they are perfectly rational in the context of an enemy agent, particularly in light of communist global strategy. See the pieces on Olavo de Carvalho and Immanuel Wallerstein at https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#inbox/12e4930aec26227f.
    The Great Mole seems to be in a position like Lenin as he stepped from the sealed train, except that Lenin was simply indifferent to those who sent him; Obama is the cohort of his foreign and domestic communist backers.
    In addition to his probable corrupt bargain with Islamic officials in Indonesia to conceal evidence of his Indonesian citizenship, which would probably make him ineligible to the Office of President, Obama has probably allied with the Comintern to destroy the United States as the last bastion of western civilization. Muslims are among the hapless shock troops of this strategy. Thereafter Muslims will go after one another like the Gingham Dog and the Calico Cat, Shiites against Sunnis, Taliban against whateverban, every fatwa-happy imam’s gang against every other fatwa-happy imam’s gang, every would-be Kalif against all other would-be Kalifs, and the communist powers will take them over as they dissolve into anarchy, visiting upon them a richly deserved holocaust killing many times over the victims of the shoa, plowing under billions of human beings, alive or dead, cool or alight, as fertilizer. By then, of course, we will be beyond caring. Much of Obama’s conduct seems puzzling or stupid when he is viewed as a President. It seems, however, clever and sly when he is viewed as a Comintern agent.

    Dr. Charles E. Rose, Professor Emeritus at the Law School of the University of Notre Dame, has wisely called for congressional investigation of the Obama matter:
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2011/03/is-he-or-isnt-he-american-citizen.html
    TUESDAY, MARCH 1, 2011
    Is he or Isn’t he an American citizen? – Professor Emeritus at the Law School of Notre Dame University
    It is time for a new approach
    The speculation about President Obama’s eligibility goes on and on, with no reliable access to the truth and with no end in sight. It is time for a new approach.
    The Constitution provides: “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.” Art II, Sec. 1. Neither the Constitution nor any federal law defines the term “natural born citizen.” Nor has the Supreme Court provided a definition that covers the questions presented in the Obama case.
    In Minor v. Happersett, in 1875, the Supreme Court, made an incidental reference to the issue: “[N]ew citizens may be born or they may be created by naturalization. The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.” 88 U.S. 162, 167-68 (1875).
    The Obama “Fight the Smears” website has published a digital photograph of a short-form “Certification of Live Birth” issued by the Hawaiian Department of Health that lists his place and date of birth as Honolulu on August 4, 1961. At that time, Hawaii’s practice was to issue also a long-form Certificate of Live Birth which contains more information, including the name of the hospital, or address of the place, where the birth occurred; the identity of the physician or other “attendant” at the birth; and the signature of the parent or other ”informant” certifying the accuracy of the information, etc. President Obama has not given the permission required by Hawaiian law for release of that long-form certificate.
    Numerous lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility have been rejected by every court involved, including the Supreme Court of the United States. Some are still pending. The rejections have been based on various grounds, including the plaintiffs’ lack of standing to sue and other specified and unspecified procedural grounds. No court has agreed to decide any of those suits on the merits.
    The lawsuits have presented a bewildering array of claims, including, among others, that: Obama was born, not in Hawaii, but Kenya; if he was born abroad, his mother, an American citizen, was legally too young to confer that citizenship on him at birth; the Hawaiian short-form certification of birth published on the Obama website is a forgery; that short-form certification could have been legally issued in 1961 to certify a birth occurring elsewhere than Hawaii; Obama is ineligible because, wherever he was born, he had dual-citizenship since his father was a British citizen and the British Nationality Act of 1948 made his son a British citizen at birth; Obama identified himself as a foreign student at Occidental College, Columbia University, and Harvard Law School; when Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981, he did so on an Indonesian passport at a time when Indonesian law forbade dual citizenship, etc., etc.
    There is no reason to analyze those lawsuits here in detail. Their lack of success cannot be ascribed simply to a hyper-technical evasion of judicial responsibility. For example, the rule requiring a plaintiff in a federal court proceeding to have a sufficient personal interest, or standing, to bring the suit provides needed assurance that suits will be seriously contested and will seek more than merely advisory opinions. On the other hand, it is fair to say that the Obama controversy involves significant issues of fact and law that deserve some sort of official resolution.
    I suggest no conclusion as to whether Obama is eligible or not. But the citizens whom the media and political pundits dismiss as “birthers” have raised legitimate questions. That legitimacy is fueled by Obama’s curious, even bizarre, refusal to consent to the release of the relevant records. Perhaps there is nothing to the issues raised. Or perhaps there is. This is potentially serious business. If it turns out that Obama knew he was ineligible when he campaigned and when he took the oath as President, it could be the biggest political fraud in the history of the world. As long as Obama refuses to disclose the records, speculation will grow and grow without any necessary relation to the truth. The first step toward resolving the issue is full discovery and disclosure of the facts.
    The courts are not the only entities empowered to deal with such a question. A committee of the House of Representatives could be authorized to conduct an investigation into the eligibility issue. The classic formulation of the Congressional role is Woodrow Wilson’s, in his 1884 book Congressional Government:
    It is the proper duty of a representative body to look diligently into every affair of government and to talk much about what it sees. It is meant to be the eyes and the voice, and to embody the wisdom and will of its constituents. Unless Congress have and use every means of acquainting itself with the acts and the disposition of the administrative agents of the government, the country must be helpless to learn how it is being served; and unless Congress both scrutinize these things and sift them by every form of discussion, the country must remain in embarrassing, crippling ignorance of the very affairs which it is most important that it should understand and direct. The informing function of Congress should be preferred even to its legislative function…[T]he only really self-governing people is that people which discusses and interrogates its administration. (p. 198)
    Wilson later retreated from his affirmation of Congressional supremacy. He said in 1900 that the president, rather than Congress, “is now at the front of affairs.” (Congressional Government, preface to 15th edition, 1900, p. 22.) In his 1908 book Constitutional Government in the United States, four years before he was elected to that office, he described the president as “the political leader of the nation.” (pp. 67ff.) Wilson’s second thoughts on congressional supremacy, however, do not negate Congress” “informing function.” The investigatory power has remained as an essential role of Congress.
    The Constitution nowhere expressly grants to either House of Congress a general power to investigate in aid of legislation, or in aid of overseeing the Executive Branch. However, the Supreme Court has long recognized that such a power is implied as an essential concomitant to Congress’s legislative authority. John E. Nowak and Ronald D. Rotunda, Constitutional Law (2004), 280. See McGrain v. Daugherty, 273 U.S. 135 (1927).
    The investigative power of Congress has multiple purposes. “The ability to gather information has been regarded as a predicate to effective legislation and as important to providing a legislative check on executive actions. The Supreme Court has explained that Congress thus may conduct ”inquiries concerning the administration of existing laws as well as proposed or possibly needed statutes. It includes surveys of defects in our social, economic or political system for the purpose of enabling the Congress to remedy them.” The power to investigate also includes ”probes into departments of the Federal Government to expose corruption, inefficiency or waste”….. The authority to investigate necessarily requires the power to compel testimony.” Erwin Chemerinsky, Constitutional Law (2006), 310. (Internal citations omitted).
    It is difficult to imagine, to borrow Wilson’s phrase, a more pressing “affair of government” than the question of whether a sitting president obtained his office illegally, and perhaps even by fraud. An investigating body must not prejudge the case. Its concern must be, first, to put the facts on the record and then to consider whatever legislation or other remedy might be appropriate in light of those facts.
    The House of Representatives is an appropriate body to inquire into the facts and legal implications of a President’s disputed eligibility for the office. The House itself has a contingent but potentially decisive role in the election of a president. The 12th Amendment to the Constitution governs the counting of the electoral votes as certified by the states:
    The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; — The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice.
    The power to investigate can be exercised by a House committee provided that the investigation is within that committee’s authorization as determined by the House. An investigation into Obama’s eligibility by a committee or subcommittee of the House could have several legitimate objectives, including among others:
    1. To ascertain the facts, compelling by subpoena the production of all the available records relevant to Obama’s eligibility, including the complete Hawaiian records of his birth; his passport records to ascertain whether he traveled to Pakistan in 1981 on an American or other passport; the records from Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School to determine whether Obama described himself as a foreign student; and such other records as may be relevant. The disclosure of such information to the public would be an appropriate exercise of Congress” “informing function.”
    2. The consideration of legislation to require candidates for a federal elective office to produce, at an appropriate time, evidence of their eligibility for that office. There is now no federal law or regulation that requires such disclosure.
    3. The consideration of legislation to define the constitutional term, “a natural born Citizen.”
    The American people do not know whether the current president achieved election by misrepresenting, innocently or by fraud, his eligibility for that office. I neither know nor suggest the answer to that question. But it would be a public service for the House of Representatives to employ its authority to determine those facts and to recommend any indicated changes in the law or the Constitution.
    Charles E. Rice is professor emeritus at the Law School of Notre Dame University in South Bend IN. He is the author of What Happened to Notre Dame?
    http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=49420&t=Barack+Obama%3A+Is+he+or+Isn't+he+an+American+citizen%3F
    POSTED BY SAM SEWELL AT 12:06 PM

    Whatever the finding on eligibility, thorough investigations will elicit a trash trove of electoral fraud, corruption and sedition leading to impeachment.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    One thing is certain about Obama’s background – he didn’t stand on a street corner waving the American flag as floats went by carrying high-school bands, local community baseball association teams and veterans amidst a crowd of patriotic middle American’s displaying their love for country.

    I think it shows.

  • catfishjuggling

    I am not saying that Beck did or did not do anything back in 1990.

    I just wish he would answer these charges.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    James Randal said:
    You must be getting senile, old man. Terrorists want the whole world under Sharia law. If you compare a man to them, he better have the exact same views or else you are blowing smoke out of your ass. So according to that logic, anyone who believes that we made mistakes in the past and we have to make changes in order to avoid similar problems in the future, sympathizes with terrorists?

    I don’t have time to write you a book on EVERYTHING Obama has said on this subject but several people have. Obama is a hate America First democrat and his history proves it.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    James Randal said:
    Given the fact that you believe Glenn Beck is your prophet and actually accept this bullshit as truth, I wouldn’t talk about ignorance. Given the fact that the majority of people who comment on this blog are teabagger/GOP pigs, I don’t feel the slightest bit of sadness when seeing thumbs down. Most of my comments are aimed at weak, Jon Stewart liberals who do not realize the threath teabagger/GOP pigs like you pose to their physical well-being. Unlike you savages, most liberals believe in this fairy tale that teabaggers are sensible people who want to co-exist with them. While you are loading up on guns and fantasizing about killing some evil colored liberal who tries to break into your home, most upper westside liberals are watching NPR and trying to have open minds and hearts. http://mediamatters.org/blog/201103170029

    LOL, you see it is comments like the above that prove you have no idea what you are talking about. It is clear that you are not a serious person and have not learned a thing in the last two years.

    No need to read your posts, just give them a thumbs down.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    catfishjuggling said:
    I am not saying that Beck did or did not do anything back in 1990. I just wish he would answer these charges.

    No you are not saying anything. To say something you have to have a name.
    We do know that if Beck did “anything” in 1990 it would be out now and not a rumor spread by people that hide behind phony names on Mediaite. We have all been waiting for GBR to tell us the bombshell that will destroy Beck. He has turned his tale and run since he promised and couldn’t deliver.

    We don’t have to wait to know that Bill Clinton did have SEX with that woman, Monica Lewinski.

  • catfishjuggling
  • Davo

    gordonbloyershow said:
    I don’t have time to write you a book on EVERYTHING Obama has said on this subject but several people have. Obama is a hate America First democrat and his history proves it.

    All Democrits hate America…………..that’s why they’re Democrits. And the history of their actions prove it. I’ve asked this question before and have got no answers from our resident Dims as yet……………..other than the usual equivalent of “you’re just an ‘ol poo-poo head.” The question is:

    At what time since 1965 have Democrits FAILED to side with America’s enemies against us? Hussein is first and foremost a Marxist Communist. Secondarily, he is a Democrit…………….by all accounts a lethal combination for America.

  • catfishjuggling

    Davo said:
    All Democrits hate America…………..that’s why they’re Democrits. And the history of their actions prove it. I’ve asked this question before and have got no answers from our resident Dims as yet……………..other than the usual equivalent of “you’re just an ‘ol poo-poo head.” The question is: At what time since 1965 have Democrits FAILED to side with America’s enemies against us? Hussein is first and foremost a Marxist Communist. Secondarily, he is a Democrit…………….by all accounts a lethal combination for America.

    Let’s not mince words here. You’re saying that about half of America is her enemy. And that not a single one of those people has ever sided against her enemy. So half of all Americans are guilty of treason. Yes?

    And treason is punishable by death. So half of all Americans should be punished by death?

    Or would re-education camps be better?

    Yeah. Obama is Hilter.

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    Davo said:
    All Democrits hate America…………..that’s why they’re Democrits. And the history of their actions prove it. I’ve asked this question before and have got no answers from our resident Dims as yet……………..other than the usual equivalent of “you’re just an ‘ol poo-poo head.” The question is:

    At what time since 1965 have Democrits FAILED to side with America’s enemies against us? Hussein is first and foremost a Marxist Communist. Secondarily, he is a Democrit…………….by all accounts a lethal combination for America.

    Yup the two 6 month tours I did at BIAP show I side with the enemy you stupid fuck…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    Davo said:
    All Democrits hate America…………..that’s why they’re Democrits. And the history of their actions prove it. I’ve asked this question before and have got no answers from our resident Dims as yet……………..other than the usual equivalent of “you’re just an ‘ol poo-poo head.” The question is:

    At what time since 1965 have Democrits FAILED to side with America’s enemies against us? Hussein is first and foremost a Marxist Communist. Secondarily, he is a Democrit…………….by all accounts a lethal combination for America.

    When did they untie your sleeves so you could stop hugging yourself, Davoid?
    52% of voters elected the man you keep denigrating. He won by 10M votes.
    Demoncrits, (as you style them), beat Hitler and Hirohito.
    They did that AFTER rescuing the nation from the 1920-29 economic policy of the GOP.
    “The business of America is business.” Cal Coolidge (If only he’d remained silent)
    “There will be a chicken in every pot.” Herbert Hover (too bad no one had a pot left to p#ss in.)

    Stack that up against your draft-dodging coke head who STARTED two wars, and could NOT finish either.
    Maybe he lost interest. “I don’t know where Osama is, and I don’t care.”
    You are NOT a “poo-poo” head.
    You ARE an apologist for war criminals, thieves, and fascist wannabe’s.

    Look up “fascist” before you knee-jerk your way into a stroke.
    It is the coordination of the business community and the government to control the economy for the benefit of both parties.

  • JJHunsecker

    I’m not saying Glenn Beck is a cocaine-damaged, drunk, unmedicated bi-polar moron who appeals to the basest hatreds of the stupidest people in America.

  • gottosay

    DRUG ADDICT THAT BLAMED HIS MAID OF MANY YEARS FOR FURNISHING HIM WITH THE SUBSTANCES HE REQUESTED AND A DECLARED FOOLISH MAN WITH NO IDEA THAT HE IS DOING MORE TO DESTROY AMERICA THEN A DRUG DEALER AND MURDEROUS GANGSTER AND A CHILD YOU GET WHAT I MEAN…WHY IS THIS MAN ON AIR HE IS NOT FUNNY ANY MORE MORE OF WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    catfishjuggling said:
    Genius: http://1990truth.org/ Not genius: http://gordonbloyershow.com/

    Hmmm? I am asking you if you shot your neighbors dog last week? Did you kill that baby that was found under your house?

  • Paleoconservatarian

    catfishjuggling said:
    Let’s not mince words here. You’re saying that about half of America is her enemy. And that not a single one of those people has ever sided against her enemy. So half of all Americans are guilty of treason. Yes?

    And treason is punishable by death. So half of all Americans should be punished by death?

    Or would re-education camps be better?

    Yeah. Obama is Hilter.

    Maybe he is and maybe he’s not. But I seem to remember our current president calling his fellow Americans ‘enemies?’

    Isn’t it fun when you try to construct a straw man only to find it looks remarkably like Obama?

  • catfishjuggling

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Hmmm? I am asking you if you shot your neighbors dog last week? Did you kill that baby that was found under your house?

    You see genius. That is the freaking point. That is what Glenn does.

    You really are so full of “I wish were a real talk show host” love for these guys that you wouldn’t recognize satire if it stole one of your yard signs.

    I am glad wikipedia recognizes your genius though:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portage,_Indiana#Local_media

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    I’m Not saying that Beck ran over an old lady whilst DWI, NOR am I saying that he was found later that night schtupping a ten year old boy in the back seat of his car, BUT……I DO wish he would explain his side of the story.
    Turnabout is a female dog.

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