So, the second Democrat in the race, running as a tea party candidate, made the difference.

The voters in NY-26 will correct their mistake in 2012.

Yeah Righties!!!!

Get ready for an EPIC BEAT DOWN in 2012!!!

Getting rid of medicare is not going to help the Republicans in 2012 thats for sure.

J Baustian said:
So, the second Democrat in the race, running as a tea party candidate, made the difference.

The voters in NY-26 will correct their mistake in 2012.

Except the guy was a Democrat. The real story is the amount of people moving out of the state of NY.

Saw this elsewhere: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/why_ny_future_is_fleeing_v4535f5BZTMQJSc4maz1qL

Yoda002 said:
Getting rid of medicare is not going to help the Republicans in 2012 thats for sure.

Can you provide me the specific line of Ryan’s plan where he suggests such a thing?

WCinWI said:
Can you provide me the specific line of Ryan’s plan where he suggests such a thing?

Ryan is going to be lucky to win reelection Look up line 193 and 202.

WCinWI said:
Can you provide me the specific line of Ryan’s plan where he suggests such a thing?

You silly paid bloggers always argue like this is a ‘court of law’.

This is the court of Public Opinion and the Right is being seen for what they really are and they just lost a ‘slam dunk’ of an election.

Get ready for MUCH MORE of this to come in Wisconsin as well!

grafxmail7 said:
You silly paid bloggers always argue like this is a ‘court of law’.

This is the court of Public Opinion and the Right is being seen for what they really are and they just lost a ’slam dunk’ of an election.

Get ready for MUCH MORE of this to come in Wisconsin as well!

Projection.

Jaurez said:
Projection.

Wow! grafxmail7 gets paid for posting here? By the word or by the complete sentence? (I realize that last leaves most posters at this site out of the running.)

This does show that if Dems can remain on message, they can wax the ‘Licans. An an objective fact: ‘Licans are trying to shred the social contract between citizens and their government, to clear some space for the rich to become richer. As most voters aren’t rich, this is not to their advantage — and if you point it out, in all likelihood, those voters will get it.

I hope the Dem campaign managers, et al, are paying attention.

Yoda002 said:
Ryan is going to be lucky to win reelection Look up line 193 and 202.

Ryan is loved in his state dude. He lives in a Democratic district. :)

Yoda002 said:
Ryan is going to be lucky to win reelection Look up line 193 and 202.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/paul-ryans-2012-budget-medicare-plan-similar-obamacare/story?id=13431119

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Great news! I really don’t know what it’s going to take for rightwing conservative types to wake up to reality. After losing a solid Republican district in upstate New York, what do you think is going to happen in each and every election for the next couple of years. The right has no program, no viable ideas about how we should proceed in building a healthier, more prosperous society. They actually blundered into this disaster by pushing Paul Ryan’s plan to ‘reform’ Medicaire, and I’m sure they would want to do the same with Social Security. How out of touch can you get not to understand how much people love Social Security and Medicaire, and that along with the GI Bill are the best things we’ve ever received for our tax money. The Democrats are not much much more pulled together, but there’s a hard core of progressive, commited Democrats who actually care about the welfare of their fellow citizens and aren’t in the pocket of the corporative kleptocrats. People like myself, and there are millions like me find it hard to understand how people can be so brainwashed that they will vote for people who are not going to do anything good for them, God or country. They are only interested in enriching themselves and their cronies. Yes, I’m ashamed of how backward you characters are.

WCinWI said:
Ryan is loved in his state dude. He lives in a Democratic district. :)

Your over confidence is your weakness. The state is getting bluer everyday. Well, in a democrat district it won’t take much to lose.

You been wrong about Trump and Daniels. So far you’re 0-2

Paul Ryan gets a good spanking!!!

i wonder if Boehner is going to cry tommorow

The American people have spoken and have refudiated the 2010 congress.

Watch the righties in congress run from Ryan in the next week its going to look like a school of fish running from a great white shark.

By exchanging the medicare system for a voucher program Republicans have made the dumbest move on a domestic program in a generation. Expect victories for Democrats in traditionally red districts across the country in 2012.

WCinWI said:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/paul-ryans-2012-budget-medicare-plan-similar-obamacare/story?id=13431119

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Should you really be laughing about that? that doesn’t bode well for your cause.

I understand you’re an astroturfer playing the game, but clearly even you could understand that that is not a good sign for a party campaigning against “obamacare.” rite?

Thats a referendum on the GOP stupid plan. Now I expect them to start backing off that stupid plan to get rid of grandma.

LOL, dream on.

You teabags see the writing on the wall yet? 2012 is going to be the end of all of you. Bye teabags.

Scott Brown won and Repubs hit the roof claiming it was a referendum on the democrats and a sign of 2010. well what goes around comes around.

gordonbloyershow said:
LOL, dream on.

Already started, the lady that lost to Kathy Hochul had supported the plan, but 1 day to election, she starts to sing to another tune. Just like you had that injury when you heard the sound of ammo and the 2nd before enlisting and then getting discharged.

President Obama Congratulates Rep.-Elect Kathy Hochul For NY-26 Victory

On Tuesday, she captured 47 percent of the vote to Ms. Corwin’s 43 percent, according to unofficial results. A Tea Party candidate, Jack Davis, had 9 percent.

Voters, who turned out in strikingly large numbers for a special election, said they trusted Ms. Hochul, the county clerk of Erie County, to protect Medicare.

No doubt the Ryan Medicaide plan muddied the waters quite a bit.

The addition of an Obama administration democrat operative ( interloper ) masquerading as a Tea Party candidate had as much to do with the Republican loss.

Corwin’s 43% coupled with the douchebags 9% stolen from the Republican party candidate was the true game changer.

It is beyond comprehension that the Republican leadership in Washington, just as they are failing to do with Ryan’s medicaide debacle, did not take charge over this situation before it was too late.

Nacho said:
Should you really be laughing about that? that doesn’t bode well for your cause.

I understand you’re an astroturfer playing the game, but clearly even you could understand that that is not a good sign for a party campaigning against “obamacare.” rite?

does this make ryan a socialist?

the one big difference is ryan’s plan is that while obama would use the money saved for other programs or to go towards the budget, paul ryan will take the money and give even more tax breaks by dropping the tax rate for the rich from 35 percent to 25 percent., all totaled about 4 trillion dollars over the next 10 years. (from a good article by matt taibi about the chicken-shit paul ryan.)
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/tax-cuts-for-the-rich-on-the-backs-of-the-middle-class-or-paul-ryan-has-balls-20110407

Barack Must Go said:
The addition of an Obama administration democrat operative ( interloper ) masquerading as a Tea Party candidate had as much to do with the Republican loss.

you are, by far, the most dangerous person who posts here. you pull this shit out of you ass and say it like it is actually true. you have said the european countries restrict the amount of children the can have and now your saying the tea party candidate is a plant? the scariest part is you probably believe this crap and i fear you are getting all this false information from your neighbors dog and eventually that dog will tell you to commit violent acts. you need help and i truly feel sorry for you.

WCinWI said:
WCinWI s

HE IS ON FOX ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL NOW SPINNING AS FAST AS HE CAN! NEW FOX ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL MANTRA ! PEOPLE LOSE BECAUSE THEY TELL THE TRUTH! HE LOST BIG TIME WITH THIS “KILL MEDICARE” PLAN! KEEP SPINNING!

ChiliPeppersFan said:
ChiliPeppersFan

CHILI, BARACK MUST GO IS A PAID BLOG PERSON! PAID TO POST STUPID FOX ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL B.S.! YOU KNOW HOW FOX ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL LIKES TO THROW CRAP AGAINST THE WALL AND SEE WHAT STICKS IN THE MINDS OF THE IGNORANT AND MISINFORMED!

ChiliPeppersFan said:
you are, by far, the most dangerous person who posts here. you pull this shit out of you ass and say it like it is actually true. you have said the european countries restrict the amount of children the can have and now your saying the tea party candidate is a plant? the scariest part is you probably believe this crap and i fear you are getting all this false information from your neighbors dog and eventually that dog will tell you to commit violent acts. you need help and i truly feel sorry for you.

If you can’t handle the habaneros…get out of the……..

it’s very funny that no matter what things in ryan’s plan are the same as the hcr that the wisconsin lady says, it’s perception that matters. nancy pelosi once famously said…”you have to wait for us to pass the bill to see what’s in it.” what she was talking about was that no matter what bs the republicans say about the bill, when it gets passed you will see that your kids can remain on your insurance until they are 26 yrs old and your health insurance must take you and your preexisting conditions. and there is no “killing grandman” or “death panels” but that is all you heard from fox and the republicans.
now the shoe is on the other foot and, of course there will be some similarities to the hcr, but all people will remember when they vote is the commercial of paul ryan pushing your grandmother in the wheelchair over a cliff.

kinda sucks huh?

BlueBunny said:
CHILI, BARACK MUST GO IS A PAID BLOG PERSON! PAID TO POST STUPID FOX ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL B.S.! YOU KNOW HOW FOX ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL LIKES TO THROW CRAP AGAINST THE WALL AND SEE WHAT STICKS IN THE MINDS OF THE IGNORANT AND MISINFORMED!

dude…even fox has standards.

Thommy, the best part was I don’t think Fix News even mentioned it all night…lol

ChiliPeppersFan said:
dude…even fox has standards.

I wouldn’t go that far.

Living in this district I can tell you that it was a gutter campaign run by all candidates, extremely negative all around. I can also say this does nothing to change the dynamic of the House of Representatives and when the 18 month term is over this district is being eliminated by redistricting. This election has no short or long term ramification for the people in this area.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
dude…even fox has standards.

There gotta be another site where this “Barack Must Go” nut can post all his hate. It’s sure bringing down the standards of Mediate to let him post this garbage.

Lefties keep talking about the Ryan budget plan… LOL

None of them seem to realize that the primary reason for the election in he first place was as a result of a disgraceful resignation of the Republican who held the seat, giving the Demonkrat the upper hand in a very disappointed constituency, and running against opponents whose votes were split in two rather than being a single one. The disappointment of the voters over Chris Lee’s actions and resignation was enough for Republicans to loose the election, the Ryan budget plan Mediscare strategy will backfire on the Demokrats eventually.

Smart politicians would have waited for EXIT POLLS before declaring the source of the victory as the referendum on Ryan’s budget plan. Maybe Demonkrats should wait and see who got the bulk of the seniors votes.

Corwin’s 43% + Davis’s 9% would have been 52% against Kathy Hochul’s 47%

If it was truly a referendum on Ryan’s budget plan, Hochul should have beaten both of them combined just as Marco Rubio showed Charlie Crist and Kendrick Meek what a true defeat meant, by getting the combined votes both of them got in the Florida senate race last November.

Yoda002 said:
The state is getting bluer everyday. Well, in a democrat district it won’t take much to lose.

And with all the blue union help and money, they still couldn’t knock out Prosser.

Democratic Do-Nothing Party is in for a wild ride…

Next target:
The Toomey Plan…

The Democratic Socialist Party’s new campaign strategy is to scare grandma and grandpa.

The most difficult task for Republicans is combatting the sheer stupidity of the Democrats. Obama may not be the sharpest tool in the shed but he’s smart enough to play on the close-minded idiocy of his followers. Obama is acting irresponsibly about the serious problems this nation faces. Yeah, what else is new.

LOGICandREASON said:
Corwin’s 43% + Davis’s 9% would have been 52% against Kathy Hochul’s 47%

If it was truly a referendum on Ryan’s budget plan, Hochul should have beaten both of them combined just as Marco Rubio showed Charlie Crist and Kendrick Meek what a true defeat meant, by getting the combined votes both of them got in the Florida senate race last November.

Possible, but don’t forget the 1% of the vote going to the Green Party. That probably would have gone to Holchum, so give her 48% had Murphy not run. That would only be a 4 point difference, 52 v. 48, which isn’t much, especially considering how red this district has historically been.

And, your argument also assumes that all of Davis’ 9% would have gone to Corwin. True, most of it probably would have gone to Corwin, because Davis is a tea party guy, but polls do show that support for Corwin dropped and support for Holchum increased after Corwin said she was for Ryan’s plan.

chatmandu002 said:
The Democratic Socialist Party’s new campaign strategy is to scare grandma and grandpa.

Only partially true. First note that republicans did the same thing with “death panels.”

There are reasons why Ryan’s plan is dangerous. First, I wonder how many seniors will have their insurance dropped by private insurers because, after all, they are older and have higher medical bills. Second,those vouchers Ryan is proposing only keep up with the rate of inflation. The cost of medical care and insurance has been rising far higher than the rate of inflation.

Third, what about those under 55? Seems to me that is not young enough to start such a plan. Many people in this age range are unemployed, and you often read articles about how people in this age range are in effect unemployable. If they do get a job, it very possibly will be a job that pays much less than what they are use to and, in fact, may be a job that does not provide health insurance. As they get older, and possibly have been without insurance, how in the world is a private, for-profit, insurer going to even want to insure someone who is older??? If they do, their premiums likely will be very high.

Rio said:
And with all the blue union help and money, they still couldn’t knock out Prosser.

Yes, but the election was close, and that’s something to take note of.

Yes, but a Democrat did win a special election a few weeks ago in the 94th District Assembly of La Crosse County, one Mike Doyle, who won that seat which was held by a Republican for the previous 17 years. Lots of money was poured into the Republican’s campaign, including money from Karl Rove’s camp.

Fox News and Republicans/CONS can’t be happy at all: Look at the following latest poll numbers for Obama.
Approval/Disapproval (%)
Gallup = 53/41
Rasmussen = 50/48
Fox News = 55/41
PEW = 50/39
Quinnipiac = 52/40
NBC/WSJ = 52/41

I know, teabaggers….IT MUST HURT!

Zermatt2 said:
Possible, but don’t forget the 1% of the vote going to the Green Party. That probably would have gone to Holchum, so give her 48% had Murphy not run. That would only be a 4 point difference, 52 v. 48, which isn’t much, especially considering how red this district has historically been.

And, your argument also assumes that all of Davis’ 9% would have gone to Corwin. True, most of it probably would have gone to Corwin, because Davis is a tea party guy, but polls do show that support for Corwin dropped and support for Holchum increased after Corwin said she was for Ryan’s plan.

They use the same BS argument with the 92 Presidential elections. “Bush would have won if….”

You Republicans can continue pushing your policies. You want to see poll numbers for Republican governors of “battleground states” who haven’t been in office for even 6 months?
Gov. Rick Scott (R-FL) Quinnipiac: 29% Approval/57% Disapproval
Gov. John Kasich (R-OH) Quinnipiac 30% Approval/46% Disapproval
Keep digging!

LOGICandREASON said:
Corwin’s 43% + Davis’s 9% would have been 52% against Kathy Hochul’s 47%

If it was truly a referendum on Ryan’s budget plan, Hochul should have beaten both of them combined just as Marco Rubio showed Charlie Crist and Kendrick Meek what a true defeat meant, by getting the combined votes both of them got in the Florida senate race last November.

Jack Davis also opposed the Ryan budget. So by your logic, it was 43% to 56% referendum against Ryan’s plan.

I see the President had time to congratulate Hochul for winning but had no time to offer his concerns and sympathy for the people of Joplin and in general of MO. Just when I finish with my Guinness and some Champagne I will see you on Sunday. Good Mr. President we appreciate your non concern for the tragedy that is taking place in your country.

NY26 usual voter totals are 250k… Tuesday vote total was only 100k…
Hochul had only 48k… that’s 25% of usual voter turnout…