Muslims have to be more understanding of the US.

Or are they not capable of it?

And these right wngers SAY they support the troops. I guess it just proves you can SAY anything while you’re doing the opposite

Afghan Insurgents Using Koran Burning To Turn Villagers Against U.S.
Afghan Insurgents Using Desperate Housewives To Turn Villagers Against U.S.
Afghan Insurgents Using Gay Marriage To Turn Villagers Against U.S.
Afghan Insurgents Using Victoria’s Secret To Turn Villagers Against U.S.
Afghan Insurgents Using Ham SandwichesTo Turn Villagers Against U.S.
Afghan Insurgents Using Christianity To Turn Villagers Against U.S.
Afghan Insurgents Using Support For Israel To Turn Villagers Against U.S.

When all you got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail, eh comrades?

Tony the Fist said:
Afghan Insurgents Using Koran Burning To Turn Villagers Against U.S.
Afghan Insurgents Using Desperate Housewives To Turn Villagers Against U.S.
Afghan Insurgents Using Gay Marriage To Turn Villagers Against U.S.
Afghan Insurgents Using Victoria’s Secret To Turn Villagers Against U.S.
Afghan Insurgents Using Ham SandwichesTo Turn Villagers Against U.S.
Afghan Insurgents Using Christianity To Turn Villagers Against U.S.
Afghan Insurgents Using Support For Israel To Turn Villagers Against U.S.

When all you got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail, eh comrades?

If you’re IN Afghanistan, it doesn’t really MATTER what the “issue” is, does it Tony? Afghanistan is NOT “our country”.

–Cobra

I agree with Sarah that both building the Ground Zero Mosque and burning the Korna is insensitive!

The media is just as guilty for reporting about the Koran burning event. I hope you guys sleep well tonight knowing more troops may die b/c of your actions.

Aren’t these the “moderate” Muslims the msm has been claiming are peaceful and tolerant? However, they do get a pass for honor killings, stoning, the murder of Theo van Gogh over a film about their mistreatment of women, threatening the lives of Stone & Parker over a cartoon, and now wanting to murder soldiers over a silly book burning. So I guess the villagers are now terrorists as well.

But let’s make the pastor out as the villain. That makes a lot of sense.

And our government trusts these nuts to keep the peace? Unbelievable!

@juan, “I agree with Sarah that both building the Ground Zero Mosque and burning the Korna is insensitive!”

Well I think it is pretty “insensitive” to viciously murder 2,976 innocent men, women, and children! At least the Japanese targeted the military, these people are monsters!

libra blue said:
Aren’t these the “moderate” Muslims the msm has been claiming are peaceful and tolerant? However, they do get a pass for honor killings, stoning, the murder of Theo van Gogh over a film about their mistreatment of women, threatening the lives of Stone & Parker over a cartoon, and now wanting to murder soldiers over a silly book burning. So I guess the villagers are now terrorists as well.

But let’s make the pastor out as the villain. That makes a lot of sense.

And our government trusts these nuts to keep the peace? Unbelievable!

Don’t we have a responsibility to rise above the actions of intolerant Muslims? Just because extremist Muslims exist, does that justify what the pastor is doing? Do you really think David Patraeus is wrong to condemn this whack job?

Pastor Jones=one of those stupid people where “you can’t fix stupid” applies fully.

@paulmdoro, “Do you really think David Patraeus is wrong to condemn this whack job?”

No he isn’t wrong to condemn this pastor, esp. if he truly believes that it will cause harm to the troops, but at the same time he better condemn the nuts that caused this conflict in the first place. The msm is treating them like victims and that is wrong!

Maybe the msm will sit up and take notice when the government decides that they must censor their reporting and blogs like this just in case some of those lunatics decide to commit another terrorist attack because they were offended by somthing some blogger or commentor said about their precious Islam on one of their sites.

Just think about that.

correction: something

libra blue said:
@paulmdoro, “Do you really think David Patraeus is wrong to condemn this whack job?”

No he isn’t wrong to condemn this pastor, esp. if he truly believes that it will cause harm to the troops, but at the same time he better condemn the nuts that caused this conflict in the first place. The msm is treating them like victims and that is wrong!

Maybe the msm will sit up and take notice when the government decides that they must censor their reporting and blogs like this just in case some of those lunatics decide to commit another terrorist attack because they were offended by somthing some blogger or commentor said about their precious Islam on one of their sites.

Just think about that.

I agree that it is important to condemn these crazies, but we have to hold ourselves to a higher standard. Burning the Korans just makes this guy as crazy as the people he’s criticizing.

Colby Hall: “Remember when General David Petraeus warned that the planned “Burn a Koran Day” event endangered U.S. Troops deployed in Afghanistan? Well guess what: it turns out he knew what he was talking about.”

It should read, “Remember when Patraeus asked American to fall to their knees rather than risk upsetting muslims?”

TOHNY THE FIST you forgot .CARTONS OF MOHAMED,DOCUMENTARIES OF THE PLIGHT OF MUSLIM WOMEN(THEO VAN GOGH),CONVERTIG MUSLIMS,TALKING ABOUT MUSLIM WOMEN UNDERWEAR(BBC TV’ S TOP GEARS- JEREMY CLARKSON)

Mr.Papshmer said:
Colby Hall: “Remember when General David Petraeus warned that the planned “Burn a Koran Day” event endangered U.S. Troops deployed in Afghanistan? Well guess what: it turns out he knew what he was talking about.”

It should read, “Remember when Patraeus asked American to fall to their knees rather than risk upsetting muslims?”

Obviously, when it comes to the Middle East and Muslim relations, you are smarter than David Patraeus.

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
The media is just as guilty for reporting about the Koran burning event. I hope you guys sleep well tonight knowing more troops may die b/c of your actions.

So the media should stop reporting now? Is that your solution?

You do know that is their job?

What a backwards ass statement to make…shows a complete denial of the issue and who’s truly at fault.

The media did not tell this pastor to burn Korans, the pastor told the media that he’s burning them…what do you not understand about that?

There are always side effects to liberty and freedom. Extremists use our freedoms against us there is no doubt about that. However, with that said, I would not give up my liberty for a little more security.

In 2005 I was on the streets of Ramadi, Iraq. It was during that time when the Muhammad cartoon debacle erupted. We were told the same thing, maybe it was true, maybe it wasn’t. I don’t know it we got hit more because of it. But the fact remains, is that the USA should never give up its freedom for a little security.

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
The media is just as guilty for reporting about the Koran burning event. I hope you guys sleep well tonight knowing more troops may die b/c of your actions.

You should change your name to “ImJustThatDamnIgnorant”..it fits your posts

paulmdoro said:
Obviously, when it comes to the Middle East and Muslim relations, you are smarter than David Patraeus.

David Patraeus may or may not be smarter than I am, but that’s completely irrelevant. Patraeus was asking American citizens, and it doesn’t matter how kooky they are, to waive their right to free speech because it might recruit muslims into jihad. So when was the last time an administration official asked Mexicans no to protest because it might upset white people? How about asking gays not to protest because it might upset straights? The difference this time is that there is a threat of violence. If government officials begin condemning protests because of one possible outcome, where does that road lead?

Also, we’re already at war with islam, most Americans have their head in the sand about this, but the muslims don’t.

Mr.Papshmer said:
David Patraeus may or may not be smarter than I am, but that’s completely irrelevant. Patraeus was asking American citizens, and it doesn’t matter how kooky they are, to waive their right to free speech because it might recruit muslims into jihad. So when was the last time an administration official asked Mexicans no to protest because it might upset white people? How about asking gays not to protest because it might upset straights? The difference this time is that there is a threat of violence. If government officials begin condemning protests because of one possible outcome, where does that road lead? Also, we’re already at war with islam, most Americans have their head in the sand about this, but the muslims don’t.

So we’re at war with Islam in Afganistan and Iraq? Is that what we are training and arming their Muslim police forces for?

The general’s job is to protect his troops in any manner possible. Suggesting that the pastor in Florida think twice about his actions does not infringe on anybody’s freedom of speech. He’s pointing out the fact that “radical actions” (as the pastor admitted to in this very clip) can and WILL lead to equally radical reactions.

Freedom of speech does NOT mean there will not be repercussion for your speech. It just means nobody can legally stop you from saying what you want to say.

Making any sense to you yet?

Paul,
I find it humorous that the same people who nicknamed him David Betrayus are now imploring us to listen to him. Not saying you are one of them, but don’t you think it’s a little disengenuous? And for the record (since the libs feel the need to make cons constantly condemn it), I abhore the burning of anyones religious books).

Funny how I didn’t hear alot of libs condemning the Discovery Channel terrorist, for his leftist views. They either ignored it or made excuses for him. Just an observation.

Isn’t Patraeus only trying to protect the troops when he asks that Korans not be publicly burned? Is he really asking Americans to “get on their knees”?

SpineCrusher said:
So the media should stop reporting now? Is that your solution?

You do know that is their job?

What a backwards ass statement to make…shows a complete denial of the issue and who’s truly at fault.

The media did not tell this pastor to burn Korans, the pastor told the media that he’s burning them…what do you not understand about that?

Does not mean they have to report on it. The media passes up many stories each and every day they should have considered the potential consequences of their actions. They should have treated the event as if a black girl has gone missing than you would have never heard about the burning of the Korans.

More Liberty said:
There are always side effects to liberty and freedom. Extremists use our freedoms against us there is no doubt about that. However, with that said, I would not give up my liberty for a little more security. In 2005 I was on the streets of Ramadi, Iraq. It was during that time when the Muhammad cartoon debacle erupted. We were told the same thing, maybe it was true, maybe it wasn’t. I don’t know it we got hit more because of it. But the fact remains, is that the USA should never give up its freedom for a little security.

ironic then that you went to fight in a war started by an administration which pushed the “patriot act”…no, no freedoms for security lost under that administration…no, no, no…never admit to that.

MichelleF said:
Paul,
I find it humorous that the same people who nicknamed him David Betrayus are now imploring us to listen to him. Not saying you are one of them, but don’t you think it’s a little disengenuous? And for the record (since the libs feel the need to make cons constantly condemn it), I abhore the burning of anyones religious books).

Funny how I didn’t hear alot of libs condemning the Discovery Channel terrorist, for his leftist views. They either ignored it or made excuses for him. Just an observation.

I do not have a running checklist of who condemned Patraeus and who has called for us to listen to him.

SpineCrusher said:
The general’s job is to protect his troops in any manner possible.

No it’s not. His primary job is “mission accomplishment.” his secondary job is “troop welfare.” If his “job” was to protect the troops, than they wouldn’t be there in the first place.

Paul says:

I do not have a running checklist of who condemned Patraeus and who has called for us to listen to him.

I think you know quite well that it was the left that nicknamed him General Betrayus. But if you want to play dumn, have at it! Way to not answer the question, btw!

Why is humanity so intolerant of intolerance?

It just seems unfair to be forced to hide ones hatred of a race, nation or religion.

I thought being discriminating was a positive trait.

I didn’t forget DEFENDER-90, my hand was just getting tired of providing reasons why people who hate us might use violence against us. All this panic over offending already volatile people is like trying to live with an abusive husband. “Have dinner ready, or he’ll pound my face in.” “Don’t look him in the eye, or he’ll drag me down the stairs.” It’s a sad situation, but that’s the world we live in.

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
Does not mean they have to report on it. The media passes up many stories each and every day they should have considered the potential consequences of their actions. They should have treated the event as if a black girl has gone missing than you would have never heard about the burning of the Korans.

once again, thanks for showing us your ignorance.

Now you’re saying we should suppress the freedom of speech of the press? That they have to give up their freedom to report what they see fit, because reporting on “some issues” will make them responsible for the backlash of what the story is covering?

Are you actually paying attention to what you are saying…it’s just ludicrous?

It’s all the medias fault, yet you spend your time ranting on an internet media board.

SpineCrusher said:
ironic then that you went to fight in a war started by an administration which pushed the “patriot act”…no, no freedoms for security lost under that administration…no, no, no…never admit to that.

I can choose to serve my country, but dislike the government. Just because I volunteered to fight alongside my fellow marines does not equal tacit approval of all political decisions. I didn’t approve of the Patriot Act when Bu$h signed it, and I didn’t approve of the re-signing of the Patriot Act under Obama.

Your debates are childish.

More Liberty said:
No it’s not. His primary job is “mission accomplishment.” his secondary job is “troop welfare.” If his “job” was to protect the troops, than they wouldn’t be there in the first place.

oh that’s right, because it was the General’s decision to send them to war…forgot about that part…really insightful post…

fail!

I am not playing dumb Michelle. I remember Patraeus being called “Betrayus” but I have no idea if they are the same people now calling for people to listen to him. I don’t paint in broad strokes like you do and see everything as “the left” or “the right.”

Also, regarding the Discovery Channel guy, a two-second search revealed that the NY Daily News called him a crazed tree hugger and the Miami Herald called him an environmental extremist. Just two examples found quickly. Not everyone was making excuses for him or ignoring it altogether.

Tony the Fist said:
I didn’t forget DEFENDER-90, my hand was just getting tired of providing reasons why people who hate us might use violence against us. All this panic over offending already volatile people is like trying to live with an abusive husband. “Have dinner ready, or he’ll pound my face in.” “Don’t look him in the eye, or he’ll drag me down the stairs.” It’s a sad situation, but that’s the world we live in.

Listen FISTFUCK, not everybody who reads the Koran is responsible for what happened on 9/11.

In fact, only 20% of the Muslims come from the Middle East. You do understand that buring the Koran incites all Muslims.

It’s like you’re going to knock down the entire house just to remodel a bathroom.

SpineCrusher said:
oh that’s right, because it was the General’s decision to send them to war…forgot about that part…really insightful post…

fail!

I will admit that it wasn’t his decision (you can look to Bush and Obama for that), but his job first and foremost is mission accomplishment.

SpineCrusher said:
once again, thanks for showing us your ignorance.

Now you’re saying we should suppress the freedom of speech of the press? That they have to give up their freedom to report what they see fit, because reporting on “some issues” will make them responsible for the backlash of what the story is covering?

Are you actually paying attention to what you are saying…it’s just ludicrous?

It’s all the medias fault, yet you spend your time ranting on an internet media board.

I guess missing children does not matter to you no wonder you do not care about the lives of our troops.

More Liberty said:
I can choose to serve my country, but dislike the government. Just because I volunteered to fight alongside my fellow marines does not equal tacit approval of all political decisions. I didn’t approve of the Patriot Act when Bu$h signed it, and I didn’t approve of the re-signing of the Patriot Act under Obama. Your debates are childish.

and your attitude and mentality towards the rest of humanity sucks

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
I guess missing children does not matter to you no wonder you do not care about the lives of our troops.

missing children? WTF?! HAHAHA!!

Are we even on the same planet?

SpineCrusher said:
missing children? WTF?! HAHAHA!!

Are we even on the same planet?

You do not care and you do not have a heart just a taste for violence.

What? Muslims are all peaceful people. Why would a nut burning the Koran upset peaceful Muslims?

I mean some here act as those Muslims might want to stone someone or cut their nose or ears off for doing something bad.

Certainly Muslims would not react so violently, would they? It’s not as though they are radical or something, are they?

I see that the networks although purveying 24/7 coverage of this event, they say they will not broadcast the actual burning of the Koran.

What’s wrong guys? Ya show the burning of the flag quite often and reported a false story of soldiers “flushing” Korans in Gitmo.

( Newsweek on Monday retracted a story alleging interrogators at Guantanamo flushed the Koran down a toilet in front of detainees.

“Based on what we know now, we are retracting our original story that an internal military investigation had uncovered Koran abuse at Guantanamo Bay,” editor Mark Whitaker (search) said in statement released Monday evening.)

Are you afraid of the peaceful Muslims?

Tsk,tsk

SpineCrusher said:
and your attitude and mentality towards the rest of humanity sucks

yeah my attitude about humanity sucks because I stand for liberty, and believe people should be tolerant – to include Islam. Listen, I believe that a free individual that purchased private property should be able to build a mosque. I also believe people should be able to protest it. I believe that an individual should be able to burn a quran, flag or whatever on private property, and people should be able to protest that. But what i don’t believe is that people should give up their liberties for some sense of false security.

I’m sorry you hate liberty.

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
You do not care and you do not have a heart just a taste for violence.

You don’t know anything about me so don’t pretend to.

I know that you are for the Koran burnings, which says much more about you.

The fox news sewer and the teabaggers they water bear responsibility.

More Liberty said:
yeah my attitude about humanity sucks because I stand for liberty, and believe people should be tolerant – to include Islam. Listen, I believe that a free individual that purchased private property should be able to build a mosque. I also believe people should be able to protest it. I believe that an individual should be able to burn a quran, flag or whatever on private property, and people should be able to protest that. But what i don’t believe is that people should give up their liberties for some sense of false security. I’m sorry you hate liberty.

Hate liberty? That’s like hating love. Don’t waste your time trying to figure out what I stand for, all you need to know is I’m a proud American that is sick to death of the ignorant, hateful attacks on a predominately peaceful religion. For every damn stoning accusation made by some of these posters, I can quote passages in their precious religious book that says to do the same.

Once again, I believe in freedom of speech but I also believe that there can, and should be, serious consequences for what you speak. We are lucky we have that freedom, and those who live with ignorant hatred towards others abuse that very freedom.

There could be consequences for their actions and they don’t sound very good, which should make an intelligent person question whether or not they should continue abusing their freedom of speech rights.

nuff said…I agree with everything else you just posted.

Stratdude said:
The fox news sewer and the teabaggers they water bear responsibility.

Responsibility for what? Some scam artist pretending to be a religious man burning Korans for free publicity? He probably doesn’t even watch the news.

SpineCrusher said:
abusing their freedom of speech rights.

How is he abusing it? The content might be questionable to you, but to him, as an individual, he is expressing him self. He is simply practicing his free speech. As far as negative reactions to that, well that happens in free societies.

I’ve served my country, consider myself patriotic and when I turn on the damn TV and see a group of yahoos from some Islamic country burning a US flag i just laugh and point. i don’t like to see the flagged burned, it holds a special place in my heart but I’m damn sure not going to threat those people. You see, that is real tolerance. Tolerance works both ways my friend.

hell we don’t even have to burn a Quran to get people all hysterical.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2010/09/09/general-quran-burning-reaction_7915205.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6881IF20100909
http://www.fotosearch.com/IDX065/423149/

“Listen FISTFUCK, not everybody who reads the Koran is responsible for what happened on 9/11.

In fact, only 20% of the Muslims come from the Middle East. You do understand that buring the Koran incites all Muslims.”

I realize your points, though why you’re calling me names is beyond me, sailor. But when does it end? I’m against burning the Koran, it’s antagonistic. But killing people for burning a book is extreme, is it not? Should the strongest nation in the world always walk on eggshells?

Stratdude said:
The fox news sewer and the teabaggers they water bear responsibility.

Yes, and ALL Muslims are responsible for 9/11.

Thanks for admitting that!

Yes, let’s all remember that if this nut doesn’t burn the Koran and if the Mosque is built where they want it, radical Muslims will no longer hate nor want to attack the USA.

Tony the Fist said:
“Listen FISTFUCK, not everybody who reads the Koran is responsible for what happened on 9/11. In fact, only 20% of the Muslims come from the Middle East. You do understand that buring the Koran incites all Muslims.” I realize your points, though why you’re calling me names is beyond me, sailor. But when does it end? I’m against burning the Koran, it’s antagonistic. But killing people for burning a book is extreme, is it not? Should the strongest nation in the world always walk on eggshells?

It’s not about walking on eggshells. We should be leading by example…not take their lead and do the same.

and yes, it is extreme, both the burning of the book and the possible consequences. The only thing we know for sure is that they are burning the book…we have no proof that anyone will die as a consequence.

and I apologize for the namecalling, that was childish and I let my frustrations get the better of me.

we can discuss these issues without personal attacks, thanks for reminding me of my own shortcoming.

Spinecrucher said:
“Listen FISTFUCK, not everybody who reads the Koran is responsible for what happened on 9/11.

In fact, only 20% of the Muslims come from the Middle East. You do understand that buring the Koran incites all Muslims.”

So what is worse, that it incites them? Or their violence?

Let me ask you a question Spinecrucher, if other religions don’t go fucking frothing at the mouth when their holy book such as the Torah, or the bible is burned what does that say about even moderate Muslims?

When Comedy Central consistently shows Jesus as a cartoon figure and nothing happens but laughs what does that say about Christian tolerance?

When that same channel threatens to air one episode of Muhammid as a cartoon character and death threats are sent, what does that say about ISlam and tolerance?

When a US flag is consistently burned and people don’t rush into the streets asking for blood what does that say about Americans? Yet when a cartoon of Muhammad is shown in some no name Euro town and Muslims across the globe go freakin ballistic, what does that say about their tolerance?

More Liberty said:
How is he abusing it? The content might be questionable to you, but to him, as an individual, he is expressing him self. He is simply practicing his free speech. As far as negative reactions to that, well that happens in free societies. I’ve served my country, consider myself patriotic and when I turn on the damn TV and see a group of yahoos from some Islamic country burning a US flag i just laugh and point. i don’t like to see the flagged burned, it holds a special place in my heart but I’m damn sure not going to threat those people. You see, that is real tolerance. Tolerance works both ways my friend. hell we don’t even have to burn a Quran to get people all hysterical. http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2010/09/09/general-quran-burning-reaction_7915205.htmlhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6881IF20100909http://www.fotosearch.com/IDX065/423149/

he is abusing it by knowing that he’s potentialy putting our soldiers in harms way by doing so.

As an American he should respect those rights and understand the importance behind them.

and I applaud your tolerance, I just wish there were more people with a stronger sense of what it means to sacrifice…this pastor does not.

More Liberty said:
Spinecrucher said:“Listen FISTFUCK, not everybody who reads the Koran is responsible for what happened on 9/11. In fact, only 20% of the Muslims come from the Middle East. You do understand that buring the Koran incites all Muslims.” So what is worse, that it incites them? Or their violence? Let me ask you a question Spinecrucher, if other religions don’t go fucking frothing at the mouth when their holy book such as the Torah, or the bible is burned what does that say about even moderate Muslims? When Comedy Central consistently shows Jesus as a cartoon figure and nothing happens but laughs what does that say about Christian tolerance? When that same channel threatens to air one episode of Muhammid as a cartoon character and death threats are sent, what does that say about ISlam and tolerance? When a US flag is consistently burned and people don’t rush into the streets asking for blood what does that say about Americans? Yet when a cartoon of Muhammad is shown in some no name Euro town and Muslims across the globe go freakin ballistic, what does that say about their tolerance?

We should not follow the behavior of others that we abhore. We need to lead by example.

and I’m 100% sure that their is nothing in christianity that states we should not be showing an image of Jesus or God, so that’s a strawman arguement. Islam does have laws against showing Muhammed, we should respect it.

What I find amazing is just how tolerant the rest of the world is compared to most Muslims. Just a few weeks ago a group of humanitarian doctors were traveling Afghanistan helping people. The Taliban, a group that is no longer on the DOS terrorist list, killed everyone of them for supposedly preaching Christianity, which the locals said they were not doing.

Where was the outrage from the rest of the world? These people were killed by a group of non-terrorists according to DOS for simply being Christian and having bibles. Did Christians rush the street? No. The horrible incident was soon forgotten. If anyone is intolerant, it is a large percentage of the muslim world.

You know who’s laughing his ass off about all of this? Pastor Terry Jones. The President of the United States has mentioned him, the media won’t shut up about him, and he’s received more free publicity than a church could ever dream of. I’m sure he’s happily collecting donations in support of his bonfire. And he can wrap it all in the name of God and religion.

SpineCrusher said:
Islam does have laws against showing Muhammed, we should respect it.

Why should we respect it? They can simply just turn off the TV, change the channel or pop in a DVD. You are simply bowing down to them out of nothing but fear. Besides, this is the USA, the only laws are US laws. We don’t have Sharia laws here bro. They should be tolerant of our society.

More Liberty said:
What I find amazing is just how tolerant the rest of the world is compared to most Muslims. Just a few weeks ago a group of humanitarian doctors were traveling Afghanistan helping people. The Taliban, a group that is no longer on the DOS terrorist list, killed everyone of them for supposedly preaching Christianity, which the locals said they were not doing. Where was the outrage from the rest of the world? These people were killed by a group of non-terrorists according to DOS for simply being Christian and having bibles. Did Christians rush the street? No. The horrible incident was soon forgotten. If anyone is intolerant, it is a large percentage of the muslim world.

So are you saying that we should follow their intolerance and do the same?

Also, those humanitarians were trying to convert locals to their religion, which is forbidden in that country.

When you are in another country you have to live by and follow their laws. You might not agree with their laws, or how people are prosecuted for disobeying them but that’s how things work. If you don’t like their laws, why are you there?

paulmdoro said:
Burning the Korans just makes this guy as crazy as the people he’s criticizing.

That’s the problem. The US is tolerant of Muslim whackos but Muslims are not expected to be tolerant of US whackos.

Is it because they are not capable of being tolerant of the US.

“Also, those humanitarians were trying to convert locals to their religion, which is forbidden in that country.”

BS, there was no proof of that, now look at you. You are even justifying their murders by these murderers.

SpineCrusher said:
When you are in another country you have to live by and follow their laws.

Precisely, and in the USA we have freedom of speech. If you don’t like it, than move some where. maybe Saudi Arabia. I hear they are real tolerant.

SpineCrusher said:

Also, those humanitarians were trying to convert locals to their religion, which is forbidden in that country.

If you don’t like their laws, why are you there?

I agree these humanitarian groups should only go to areas they are appreciated and stay out of Muslim countries. They will only use and abuse them just like they are doing to the US.

What this whole episode is showing, and Spinecrucher has proved, is that overall Islam is a very intolerant religion. I mean, we keep being told that it is a religion of peace, so why would we be fearful of attacks?

More Liberty said:
What this whole episode is showing, and Spinecrucher has proved, is that overall Islam is a very intolerant religion. I mean, we keep being told that it is a religion of peace, so why would we be fearful of attacks?

But what percentage of Islam is calling for violence due to the Koran burning?

Bill Mahwer said:
That’s the problem. The US is tolerant of Muslim whackos but Muslims are not expected to be tolerant of US whackos.

Shouldn’t we want to hold ourselves to a higher standard then?

paulmdoro said:
But what percentage of Islam is calling for violence due to the Koran burning?

Have you even watched the news, military leaders are saying that violence is imminent because of the burning that hasn’t happened. What I’m saying, is that if ISlam is a religion of peace than there would be no violence, and it would not be an issue.

Do you disagree that the repercussions regarding burning a Quran and burning a Torah or Bible is very different. Hell, the US military had to burn bibles in Afghanistan because people were sending them to troops.

paulmdoro said:
Shouldn’t we want to hold ourselves to a higher standard then?

We are already at a hire standard. By simply having freedom of speech and freedom of religion we are already at a higher standard.

higher..sorry

More Liberty said:
We are already at a hire standard. By simply having freedom of speech and freedom of religion we are already at a higher standard.

I agree. I just don’t think the argument “well the pastor is no worse than the radical Islamic extremists” is a good one.

More Liberty said:
Why should we respect it? They can simply just turn off the TV, change the channel or pop in a DVD. You are simply bowing down to them out of nothing but fear. Besides, this is the USA, the only laws are US laws. We don’t have Sharia laws here bro. They should be tolerant of our society.

We should respect it because that’s part of what being an American means. We have freedom of religion which includes tolerance towards all religions.

Now I agree that not all Americans hold these ideals, but these are the values that we are supposed to stand for. It’s what sets us apart and provides us with dignity and respect. When we undervalue these principals we falter in the eyes of the world and ourselves.

It’s tougher to climb than it is to stumble and fall.

More Liberty said:
What this whole episode is showing, and Spinecrucher has proved, is that overall Islam is a very intolerant religion. I mean, we keep being told that it is a religion of peace, so why would we be fearful of attacks?

because our soldiers are in THEIR country while people in our country are buring THEIR holy book to incite them.

Overall it is a very peaceful religion, just like Christianity…it’s the few bad apples that spoil it for everyone else.

You understand that as it relates to Christianity, why can you not understand that in relation to Islam?

juan says: “I agree with Sarah that both building the Ground Zero Mosque and burning the Korna is insensitive!”

And I believe that apples have the same flavor as oranges. NOT!
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/09/beck-blogs-from-theblaze-and-compares.html

Juan, it’s not a mosque; it’s not at Ground Zero. Palin, Beck, Limbaugh all tell lies because their followers don’t know the facts.
That’s how they get away with it.

paulmdoro said:
He probably doesn’t even watch the news.

I agree. He probably watches FNC.

@More Liberty, “What this whole episode is showing, and Spinecrucher has proved, is that overall Islam is a very intolerant religion .”

If the rest of the world was as “intolerant” as the Muslims we would all be dead by now.

More Liberty said: “What this whole episode is showing, and Spinecrucher has proved, is that overall Islam is a very intolerant religion. I mean, we keep being told that it is a religion of peace, so why would we be fearful of attacks?”

What this episode is showing is that overall Americans seem to be clueless as to why Al-Qaeda turned their attention toward the United States in the first place. These reactionaries are using Islam to help rationalize their jihad against the “Crusaders” that are occupying their Civilization. Even Beck understands that we’ve behaved poorly and abandoned our ideals which in turn made us the target.

To use Western language, the U.S. has a world-wide, military footprint that is stepping on Islamic countries in the Middle East. It would save us tons of money, thousands of lives and decades if not centuries of conflict if we stepped back out of the Middle East. The only security concern in the short run is that of the country that we disarmed in the first place. Iraq is now vulnerable to attack from Iran, but we can’t stay there forever. With the proper planning and preparation, the U.S. will pull out of Iraq next year. It would behoove us to pull back from the Middle East all together, but we won’t do it.

The far left (socialists) and the far right (Libertarians) can agree on such a strategy, but the centrist position on foreign policy in the U.S. is Republicratic: Pax Americana.

Speaking of “villages,” where is BushDrunk when we need him?? As a Village Idiot, he KNOWS villages. And can turn this thing around. With his cadre of flying monkeys!