Those idiots with the Hitler-type signs and violent rhetoric are just right-wing plants who are trying to make liberals look bad.

(Sound familiar?)

Jon Bershad:

In all seriousness, thank you for putting this video in the store window for all to see.

As a WI resident, I am saddened that you are even linking up that list of “vile” signs. Have you no shame? I mean seriously.

I hope there are pink slips coming. And I hope that the Democratic Senators get hit with a felony charge, per WI law.

Hugo Daun said:
Those idiots with the Hitler-type signs and violent rhetoric are just right-wing plants who are trying to make liberals look bad.

(Sound familiar?)

Sure does. I recall a lot of deflecting when signs like this were pointed spotted at rallies attended by conservatives.

That being said, two wrongs don’t make a right. This is not the way to win an argument or get your points across. It is a shameful tactic and should always be condemned.

paulmdoro said:
It is a shameful tactic and should always be condemned.

I absolutely agree.

“Hitler abolished unions!”

Hitler was a vegetarian. Bob is a vegetarian. Bob must be Hitler.

paulmdoro said:
Sure does. I recall a lot of deflecting when signs like this were pointed spotted at rallies attended by conservatives.

That being said, two wrongs don’t make a right. This is not the way to win an argument or get your points across. It is a shameful tactic and should always be condemned.

Correct. Even though Obama can’t stand America, no political person should be called a Nazy or other form of dictator. Except for maybe Pelosi. That woman is nuts. Just sayin’….. :)

Calvin said:
“Hitler abolished unions!”

Another thing: How did unions do under Stalin? Under Castro? Under Mao?

Do a Reagen Mr Governor….
Fire them , Fire them all …every single teacher that called in sick and lied set an example for other states….Hire the thousands of dedicated up and coming unemployed teachers that are looking for jobs right now and would love to educate our children and be happy to have a job.
Unions were great for our country 50 years ago but they are killing our economy now.

Wow….If that is the best the GOP can do then I feel very sorry for them. Here is a question for teabagger scumbags. How many liberals have shot at conservatives? You are comparing 2 Hitler signs to a movement built on the notion that Obama is a Kenyan Muslim and has NOTABLE POLITICAL COMMENTATORS using violent rhetoric and comparing Dems to Nazis. No comparison. Quite pathetic actually.

Well at least there are no spelling errors on liberal signs. lol

ITS ALL SARAH PALIN’S FAULT!! OH THE HUMANITY!!! Thank the left wing media for creating the new tit for tat.

James Randal said:
Wow….If that is the best the GOP can do then I feel very sorry for them. Here is a question for teabagger scumbags. How many liberals have shot at conservatives? You are comparing 2 Hitler signs to a movement built on the notion that Obama is a Kenyan Muslim and has NOTABLE POLITICAL COMMENTATORS using violent rhetoric and comparing Dems to Nazis. No comparison. Quite pathetic actually.

Hi racist!

And how is this any worse than crap we saw over the summer?

WCinWI said:
Correct. Even though Obama can’t stand America, no political person should be called a Nazy or other form of dictator. Except for maybe Pelosi. That woman is nuts. Just sayin’….. :)

Wow! That’s HILARIOUS!

The funniest part of this……you’re serious!!!

HAHAHAAHH!

TangledThorns said:
ITS ALL SARAH PALIN’S FAULT!! OH THE HUMANITY!!! Thank the left wing media for creating the new tit for tat.

Actually no, as WI resident….I welcome the teachers to continue their fight. Not only is this political suicide locally, but nationally it’s going to reflect poorly on Obama. I welcome the protests. Think of all those parents that are going to “waste” their work days for their kids.

WCinWI said:
Correct….no political person should be called a Nazy or other form of dictator

I totally agree, except…

WCinWI said:
Even though Obama can’t stand America…Except for maybe Pelosi. That woman is nuts. Just sayin’

Why did you have to insert that ridiculous statement in your otherwise reasonable and rational comment?

Calvin said:
“Hitler abolished unions!”

Hitler was a vegetarian. Bob is a vegetarian. Bob must be Hitler.

And Walker isn’t even trying to abolish unions, just restrict the ability of public sector unions to bargain collectively on certain issues. So it’s more like “Hitler was a vegetarian. Bob enjoys an occasional salad. Bob must be Hitler.”

perceptorii said:
And Walker isn’t even trying to abolish unions, just restrict the ability of public sector unions to bargain collectively on certain issues. So it’s more like “Hitler was a vegetarian. Bob enjoys an occasional salad. Bob must be Hitler.”

Except for police and fire unions. Why is that? Couldn’t possibly be because they gave him much more support than the teacher’s union in the election?

stoogedudes said:
I totally agree, except…

Why did you have to insert that ridiculous statement in your otherwise reasonable and rational comment?

It’s called sarcasm. Perhaps you need more coffee. :)

Besides…..I have no desire to let the Left get away with their far more harsh tactics.

paulmdoro said:
Except for police and fire unions. Why is that? Couldn’t possibly be because they gave him much more support than the teacher’s union in the election?

Or it could be that police and fire take longer to educate whereas teachers can easily be fired and new ones can be hired.

C’mon….think about this in a commonsense way.

Oh also, your statistic on WI pay is wrong as someone was on Fox earlier talking about the avg. salaries. What’s your next argument?

Looking back at past Mediaite stories about conservatives using Hitler signs, it’s funny how different the reaction from conservatives is. When it was conservatives using them, excuses were made. The other side does it too. A few don’t represent everyone. Or health care reform is bad. Or Obama sucks. Ann Coulter said liberals were to blame. So this is yet another case of selective outrage.

Just fire the teachers. They are in breach of contract anyway.

paulmdoro said:
Except for police and fire unions. Why is that? Couldn’t possibly be because they gave him much more support than the teacher’s union in the election?

Perhaps the unions for these groups are easier to deal with. The Governor stated that most negotiation periods last 15 months and that we don’t have that long.

Besides – he didn’t take away all rights. They still have access to salary.

WCinWI said:
Or it could be that police and fire take longer to educate whereas teachers can easily be fired and new ones can be hired.

C’mon….think about this in a commonsense way.

Oh also, your statistic on WI pay is wrong as someone was on Fox earlier talking about the avg. salaries. What’s your next argument?

One person on FNC said otherwise? Wow. Amazing. It must be true then! I was not wrong. If you don’t like the facts, sorry.

Common sense says that Walker is giving different treatment to police and fire unions because they are more supportive of him and his policies.

I could care less about the signs. I wouldn’t hold a sign like that, but then again I would never have voted for that idiot Obama or Bush.

paulmdoro said:
Looking back at past Mediaite stories about conservatives using Hitler signs, it’s funny how different the reaction from conservatives is. When it was conservatives using them, excuses were made. The other side does it too. A few don’t represent everyone. Or health care reform is bad. Or Obama sucks. Ann Coulter said liberals were to blame. So this is yet another case of selective outrage.

No – the perception is that media covers the tea party when they have signs like this and not the Left when they have signs like this. The video from the GOP has been out for days. Do you see many Hitler or dictator signs being shown on camera? No. There are tons that could be videotaped. I’m glad that Breitbart’s gonna be there.

It’s time for conservatives to take a stand when the media won’t.

WCinWI said:
No – the perception is that media covers the tea party when they have signs like this and not the Left when they have signs like this. The video from the GOP has been out for days. Do you see many Hitler or dictator signs being shown on camera? No. There are tons that could be videotaped. I’m glad that Breitbart’s gonna be there.

It’s time for conservatives to take a stand when the media won’t.

Taking a stand is fine WCinWI. Making sure that these signs don’t go unmentioned is fine. But that does not change the fact that the reaction is very different. It all depends on which side you’re on. It’s selective outrage. Both sides do it. Happens all the time.

paulmdoro said:
Taking a stand is fine WCinWI. Making sure that these signs don’t go unmentioned is fine. But that does not change the fact that the reaction is very different. It all depends on which side you’re on. It’s selective outrage. Both sides do it. Happens all the time.

Both sides do it. Not both sides get reported.

Stop being blind. It’s really become annoying.

WCinWI said:
Both sides do it. Not both sides get reported.

Stop being blind. It’s really become annoying.

Did I argue with your statement that only one side gets reported? You are so testy.

WCinWI said:
It’s called sarcasm. Perhaps you need more coffee. :) Besides…..I have no desire to let the Left get away with their far more harsh tactics.

Sorry, I forgot that sarcasm doesn’t translate in words too well on the interwebs…

I guess that’s why the smiley face is at the end of it, but, oh well…it’s nice to know you don’t think Obama can’t stand America. :)

Hugo Daun said:
Those idiots with the Hitler-type signs and violent rhetoric are just right-wing plants who are trying to make liberals look bad.

(Sound familiar?)

If you have evidence for infilitrators like the Tea Party had, I’d love to see it.

stoogedudes said:
Sorry, I forgot that sarcasm doesn’t translate in words too well on the interwebs…

I guess that’s why the smiley face is at the end of it, but, oh well…it’s nice to know you don’t think Obama can’t stand America. :)

We can disagree on Obama’s policies.

In other news, another Dem. Senator retires………..wooohooo

Calvin said:
“Hitler abolished unions!”

Calvin said:
Another thing: How did unions do under Stalin? Under Castro? Under Mao?

Well, according to Bill Maher, Lenin and Stalin were right-wing.

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/02/14/bill-maher-thinks-lenin-and-stalin-were-%E2%80%9Cright-wingers%E2%80%9D/

Here’s a nice collection of photos of our New Civility in practice in WI. Lovely people.

I’m also delighted by this tweet from our friends at Organizing for America/barackobama.com:

A 6 year old is here holds a sign, “save my school” #solidarityWI #notmywi

A. Six. Year. Old. I wonder what he thinks about the unrest in Bahrain, and how it might affect the Fifth Fleet.

Soooo, where is the MSM and Democrats to call these people extremists and racists? I ask because that’s exactly what the media did to the tea parties.

Also, most of the Hitler signs at tea parties were brought by La’Rouche DEMOCRATS. Of course, the media never, ever reported it that way.

Jon: “As the old saying goes, every group has a few bad apples.” ” .. Republicans have taken this to heart by producing a YouTube video featuring some of the nastiest signs ..”

And compare this spin to the media’s (with the blessing of the democrat party) treatment of the tea partiers, who were labeled racist as an entire group without any supporting evidence whatsoever. It’s not like you people even pretend anymore.

Pablo said:
A. Six. Year. Old. I wonder what he thinks about the unrest in Bahrain, and how it might affect the Fifth Fleet.

“We need a wevolution. Let’s use the pewsuation of powew.”

http://www.mediaite.com/uncategorized/george-soros-on-the-economy-president-obama-has-lost-control/

No comment section there. Strange.

Pablo said:
Here’s a nice collection of photos of our New Civility in practice in WI. Lovely people.

I’m also delighted by this tweet from our friends at Organizing for America/barackobama.com:

A. Six. Year. Old. I wonder what he thinks about the unrest in Bahrain, and how it might affect the Fifth Fleet.

Hahahahahaha

So now Texas Dems are giving WI Dems advice on conjugal visits…..uhhhhhh

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/18/texas-dems-to-wisconsin-lawmakers-conjugal-visits_n_825033.html

Senator Lena C. Taylor (D) on Twitter compared Walker to Hitler for trying to bust unions. The Wisconsin State Patrol tried to track the bus, but failed.

http://hngwiusa.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/wisconsin-senate-democrats-have-left-the-state-to-keep-from-reaching-quorum-on-walkers-budget-repair-bill/

WCinWI said:
Correct. Even though Obama can’t stand America, no political person should be called a Nazy or other form of dictator. Except for maybe Pelosi. That woman is nuts. Just sayin’….. :)

That woman is nuts this coming from a Big time Bachman and Palin Supporter. Pelosi was talking about something entirely different it had to with Harvey Milk that they just edited out.

cowards, union puppets, weasels, slimebags, scumbags, lowlifes, rats leaving the ship….What do you call lunatic-left d-crat socialist politicians that run and hide rather than doing their job?

“Taking Back Our Country” involves more than removing the self-serving Ruling Class Establishment politicians. It’s also about curtailing, controlling, reducing and – to the maximum extent possible – eliminating taxpayer leeches known as public sector union members and bureauweenies from further destroying our country and the American way of life with their one goal of enriching themselves at the expense of everyone else.

This is an all-out battle for America. Every available, responsible American should go to Wisconsin to rally against the lunatic-left and their union masters who are trying – and to a great extend succeeding – in bankrupting cities, states and the nation for their own self-serving greed.

NB: AVERAGE TEACHER SALARY IN MADISON EXCEEDS $100,000, plus they get gold-plated benefits and an obscenely humongous pension !!!!!!

Yoda002 said:
That woman is nuts this coming from a Big time Bachman and Palin Supporter. Pelosi was talking about something entirely different it had to with Harvey Milk that they just edited out.

No – I am talking about the fact that someone from the state of CA is talking about fiscal sanity. That is nuts.

Now go play with your action figures.

TeaPartyPatriot said:

NB: AVERAGE TEACHER SALARY IN MADISON EXCEEDS $100,000, plus they get gold-plated benefits and an obscenely humongous pension !!!!!!

Enough with the pathetic lies. The average teacher salary in Madison is $50,000.

http://www.teacher-world.com/teacher-salary/wisconsin.html

Yoda002 said:
That woman is nuts this coming from a Big time Bachman and Palin Supporter. Pelosi was talking about something entirely different it had to with Harvey Milk that they just edited out.

This WCinWi person has to be a parody of a parody? Can anyone be that brainwashed?

I have to admit….I love to make money off these brainwashed zombies….hehhehe!

What does Bill Maher have to do with teachers’ pay?

For some reason you seem to have failed to notice the video’s take on the hypocrisy of the left, who vilified (as plainly seen in the video no less!) the Teapartiers for supposedly doing the same things as Obama’s Organizing for America protester thugs in Wisconsin.

But anyway, thank you for begrudgingly posting the video. I hope more media outlets have the guts to do so, because now the Democrat leftists no longer can whip out their “civility” card, unless they want this, along with the racist and violent comments against Herman Cain and Clarence Thomas shoved back in their face.

paulmdoro said:
Enough with the pathetic lies. The average teacher salary in Madison is $50,000.

http://www.teacher-world.com/teacher-salary/wisconsin.html

And tons of them are making $70,000+. :)

This will merely backfire on the Dems – making WI more red next cycle and merely reflects bad on Obama. I welcome the revolution. :) Bring on 2012!!!

All this is, is the multinational corporations including the Koch brothers trying to bust the unions, so unions wouldn’t be able to give money to Democrats. The big multinational corporations want a one party rule, an Oligarchy /Fascist society. Well a one party rule didn’t work too well for the Soviet Union.

WCinWI said:
And tons of them are making $70,000+. :)

Do you know what average means? It seems you don’t.

Yoda002 said:
All this is, is the multinational corporations including the Koch brothers trying to bust the unions, so unions wouldn’t be able to give money to Democrats. The big multinational corporations want a one party rule, an Oligarchy /Fascist society. Well a one party rule didn’t work too well for the Soviet Union.

Know about capitalism and communism you do not.

paulmdoro said:
Do you know what average means? It seems you don’t.

Do you know how much I’m smiling over here? It seems you don’t.

I love this. Do you not get how many political ads can be created off of this at the local and national level? :)

Notice when Walker got into office, he didn’t blame the economic disaster in WI on his predecessor, the lifetime government supported liberal, Tom Barrett? He didn’t blame WI’s economy on the failed policies of Tom Barrett’s lifelong career in politics.

Instead, he asked that the strikers in WI pay into their own retirement, and pay into their own healthcare for a total of 8% of their pay. Wow. What a hard guy Mr. Walker is. I hope he shows them all what a real hard guy is all about and fires every teacher who called in sick…

I support Unions! I don’t support Republicans and yes I think they are acting VERY SIMILARLY to a NAZI REGIME lately.

Deal with it, ya babies. Stop trying to push poor people down, get rid of minorities, and say traitorous things against our president.

Republicans are UnAmerican weasels in the year 2011.

ndanielson said:
Notice when Walker got into office, he didn’t blame the economic disaster in WI on his predecessor, the lifetime government supported liberal, Tom Barrett? He didn’t blame WI’s economy on the failed policies of Tom Barrett’s lifelong career in politics.

Instead, he asked that the strikers in WI pay into their own retirement, and pay into their own healthcare for a total of 8% of their pay. Wow. What a hard guy Mr. Walker is. I hope he shows them all what a real hard guy is all about and fires every teacher who called in sick…

Barrett was his opponent. Doyle was his predecessor. And he only mentioned Doyle (not by name) once in his interview yesterday.

The Gov has said no to Rail (thank goodness) and is trying to repair the public vs. private sector relationship. Illinois had to raise its taxes and now WI wants their business.

A few bad apples? You don’t know what you’re talking about. Those kind of signs are typical of union protests. Go to a few of them you’ll see. Labor activists are about the most radical people in America.

paulmdoro said:

Look at how many school administrators there are in WI that make over 100k. The list is so long it would probably take some 12 pages here. Also not included in teachers, and administrative salaries of WI, is 20k in health benefits. I believe there are some 300,000 federal workers who receive 20k in healtcare benefits in WI’s “workforce”.

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/02/17/watch-wisconsin-part-iv-the-salary-info-big-labor-doesnt-want-you-to-see/

WCinWI said:
Barrett was his opponent. Doyle was his predecessor. And he only mentioned Doyle (not by name) once in his interview yesterday.

The Gov has said no to Rail (thank goodness) and is trying to repair the public vs. private sector relationship. Illinois had to raise its taxes and now WI wants their business.

Sorry. My bad. he defeated Jim Doyle. Doyle was another Harvard grad, and life long “public servant”. Governor of WI since 2003. Another liberal democrat, just the same.

FOLLOW THE MONEY: The lunatic-left d-crat socialists have HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS in campaign contributions on the line in the Wisconsin battle – of course they will do everything possible (including criminal actions) to keep the money flowing from taxpayers- to -public-sector union members- to -public-sector unions- to -d-crat socialists campaigns. This is the money trail that MUST BE STOPPED if America is to remain a real democracy.

Oh man. I’m on their side, but they blew it with these signs. My support just went way down. Stupid, stupid and really stupid. I admit it. You can’t dump on the other side for the Hitler crap and then do the same as if its OK. Its not. Un-frigging-believable. Sad day.

Interesting take – I guess mediaite got the talking points on how to deal with this.

Truth is:

THE MEDIA SPIKED THIS STORY. They refused to show the signs – they refused to call all these people BIGOTS and RACISTS like they did with the tea party patriots. That is why the you tube exists because the lamestraem ,left wing loony media elites refused to report on this.

It has nothing to do with a few bad apples – it has everything to do with the lamestream media IGNORING THE TRUTH AND FACT.

At least mediaite covered it, albeit tongue in cheek with lots of excuses for the ourageous signs.

Oh so typical.

Leaving the state, run away from their responsibilities, sticking their middle finger in the face of the voting public who elected these representatives to do the job that the democrat idiots are now refusing to do.

What a bunchof babies.

So, I trust Jon Stewart is going to weigh in on the use of Nazi comparisons being used in Wisconsin, correct?

TfT said:
Interesting take – I guess mediaite got the talking points on how to deal with this.

Truth is:

THE MEDIA SPIKED THIS STORY. They refused to show the signs – they refused to call all these people BIGOTS and RACISTS like they did with the tea party patriots. That is why the you tube exists because the lamestraem ,left wing loony media elites refused to report on this.

It has nothing to do with a few bad apples – it has everything to do with the lamestream media IGNORING THE TRUTH AND FACT.

At least mediaite covered it, albeit tongue in cheek with lots of excuses for the ourageous signs.

Oh so typical.

Leaving the state, run away from their responsibilities, sticking their middle finger in the face of the voting public who elected these representatives to do the job that the democrat idiots are now refusing to do.

What a bunchof babies.

They get away with it all because of the liberal media. Hey, are media clowns all union???

The whole system is crumbling and you guys are worried about Hitler signs. Haha.

huntingtonboy said:
Oh man. I’m on their side, but they blew it with these signs. My support just went way down. Stupid, stupid and really stupid. I admit it. You can’t dump on the other side for the Hitler crap and then do the same as if its OK. Its not. Un-frigging-believable. Sad day.

Dude? Seriously, you never knew this about the left? Yet they blame the tea party for this stuff constantly. You probably bought into that, right? I don’t mean that disrespectfully.

Color Me Badd said:
The whole system is crumbling and you guys are worried about Hitler signs. Haha.

If it was a Tea Party event, that would be ALL you’d hear in the news 24/7, and dummies like you would be leading the charge.

Funny how these signs can be seen as the work of “a few bad apples” when the Tea Party is routinely depicted (even on this site) as a monolithically bigoted and racist group of old white men despite far less evidence than is being presented in this video. Just another media double standard.

perceptorii said:
If you have evidence for infilitrators like the Tea Party had, I’d love to see it.

I was clearly being sarcastic, dummy, as evidenced by my reply to Paul at 1:32.

Everybody knows that no true TPer would EVER carry such a sign or engage in such violent rhetoric, isn’t that right?

Hugo Daun said:
I was clearly being sarcastic, dummy, as evidenced by my reply to Paul at 1:32.

Everybody knows that no true TPer would EVER carry such a sign or engage in such violent rhetoric, isn’t that right?

And here I thought all liberals were too dumb to learn anything true about the Tea Party.

TeaPartyPatriot said:
FOLLOW THE MONEY: The lunatic-left d-crat socialists have HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS in campaign contributions on the line in the Wisconsin battle – of course they will do everything possible (including criminal actions) to keep the money flowing from taxpayers- to -public-sector union members- to -public-sector unions- to -d-crat socialists campaigns. This is the money trail that MUST BE STOPPED if America is to remain a real democracy.

Alright Lets Follow the money and we will see that like other organizations the TeaParty is not a grass roots organization but behind it is the Heritage foundation, Dick Armey’s Freedom Works which is just a front group for the Koch brothers. Dick Armey- repealed the Glass-Stegall act. which created huge investment banking activities which used to be illegal. The Tea Party is just a bunch of peasants for the Multinational corporations.

Color Me Badd said:
The whole system is crumbling and you guys are worried about Hitler signs. Haha.

Public sector unions are getting slapped down, and the whole system is crumbling??? Are you sure that it’s not just the sky falling?

I thought we already concluded that calling someone a nazi or connecting them to Hitler does not constitute “violent rhetoric”.

The media is becoming the laughing stock of the nation – the blatant double standard applied here is so amazing. mediaite makes excuses, msnbccnnabccbsnbc ignore it, only FNC tells the viewers what the heck is going on.

And the rest of the clymers wonder why FNC kicks butt in the ratings? There is ONE network who gives the people the TRUTH, and it is FNC, the others….just hide it, spike it, don’t report it, make shit up, and make excuses for the democrats.

At least mediaite reported it, can’t say the same for others, even though they didn’t report it on their own and only within the context of the youtube video, but even then, they missed the major point. The youtube video exists ONLY because the stupid lamestream liberal lefty loony idiotic democrat-only media refused to report on this story.

Gosh Dan, aren’t you embarrassed by your profession? Is there nothing that will ever make you folks wake up and smell the coffee and see that you have become nothing but a profession that we laugh at? there is no honor in journalism any longer, there is only propaganda and bs.

For shame.

Yoda002 said:
Alright Lets Follow the money and we will see that like other organizations the TeaParty is not a grass roots organization but behind it is the Heritage foundation, Dick Armey’s Freedom Works which is just a front group for the Koch brothers. Dick Armey- repealed the Glass-Stegall act. which created huge investment banking activities which used to be illegal. The Tea Party is just a bunch of peasants for the Multinational corporations.

Follow the tax payer money that is sick of paying for benefits for others that they don’t even receive on their jobs. Yep, that is what I’d follow.

TampopoLoco said:
Well at least there are no spelling errors on liberal signs. lol

This is odd since the fact is that the majority of the people who voted for Obama had no more then a 3rd grade education. But I guess its a requirement for liberals to learn to spell a few words like Racist, Hitler and lindsay lohan.

LibertySister said:
This is odd since the fact is that the majority of the people who voted for Obama had no more then a 3rd grade education. But I guess its a requirement for liberals to learn to spell a few words like Racist, Hitler and lindsay lohan.

With their dimpled chins they spell teabagger pretty well, too.

Snowspot said:
I don’t support Republicans and yes I think they are acting VERY SIMILARLY to a NAZI REGIME lately.

Freaking awesome! Seriously homes, you are one dumb m/f’er. Goddam, just think, your IQ will only surpass your age until you reach puberty! That’s assuming that you don’t od on second hand crack while suckling your mom’s teet. Now take off, idiot, go see if you can swim the english channel or something.

TfT said:
they refused to call all these people BIGOTS and RACISTS like they did with the tea party patriots.

Ummmm…why would the media call a lotta White people mad at White lawmakers bigots or racists?

LibertySister said:
This is odd since the fact is that the majority of the people who voted for Obama had no more then a 3rd grade education. But I guess its a requirement for liberals to learn to spell a few words like Racist, Hitler and lindsay lohan.

They are exhibiting their first grade social skills, too. Looks like the protesters only believe in democracy when they win elections, as usual, too.

BFD said:
Ummmm…why would the media call a lotta White people mad at White lawmakers bigots or racists?

You know, dude, sometimes I think that is the real picture of you.

Shep talked to “fugitive” Wisconsin senator Jon Erpenbach today from an undisclosed location. The Democrats see nothing wrong with holding the governor, the state, and the students hostage because things aren’t going their way.

Obama is showing his arrogance. He and his cronies should keep their noses out of state business.

WCinWI said:
And tons of them are making $70,000+. :)

This will merely backfire on the Dems – making WI more red next cycle and merely reflects bad on Obama. I welcome the revolution. :) Bring on 2012!!!

Yeah baby! Palin/Bachmann 2012!!! Whooop whoop whooooooooooo!

LOL. The same Mediaite that hyped the “Tea Partiers are racist” crap now are upset that liberals are being caught at their own game.

Like all liberals, the Mediaite staff are hypocrites.

I thought the right loved the firefighters? Now their calling them bottom-feeders!

libra blue said:
Obama is showing his arrogance. He and his cronies should keep their noses out of state business.

Obama’s a rabble rouser, not a president. Nothing about his has ever seemed presidential, and as a president, he is a disaster. When something like this comes along, this is what he knows, this is what he does, convince people that they deserve what other people earn, hand them pitchforks, and tell them to go somewhere and get loud. He enjoys being a puppeteer.

Dear Governor Walker:

For starting the wave that will banish unions to where the belong (history books), you are my hero! Please divorce your wife (if you’re married) and marry me!

Love,
Oregon

libra blue said:
Shep talked to “fugitive” Wisconsin senator Jon Erpenbach today from an undisclosed location. The Democrats see nothing wrong with holding the governor, the state, and the students hostage because things aren’t going their way.

Obama is showing his arrogance. He and his cronies should keep their noses out of state business.

Dude, are you kidding? Protesting and rabble rousing is exactly what community organizers live for. A better name for them, other than shake down artists, is community agitators. Bussed in, “grass roots ™”, union agitators are democracy in action, 0bama style.

LibertySister said:
This is odd since the fact is that the majority of the people who voted for Obama had no more then a 3rd grade education. But I guess its a requirement for liberals to learn to spell a few words like Racist, Hitler and lindsay lohan.

…and Palin/Bachman 2012.

ndanielson said:
Dude, are you kidding? Protesting and rabble rousing is exactly what community organizers live for. A better name for them, other than shake down artists, is community agitators. Bussed in, “grass roots ™”, union agitators are democracy in action, 0bama style.

Unlike those bussed in tea partiers who you were previously defending? The protest itself is democracy in action.

paulmdoro said:
That being said, two wrongs don’t make a right. This is not the way to win an argument or get your points across. It is a shameful tactic and should always be condemned.

This;

There must be some name for the silly “But they did it too” argument. Juvenile comes to mind.

It’s hard to have total control and prevent people from showing their ass at a public event. I heard an interview where those signs were presented as typical. I wonder how true that is. It’s also possible some are plants. I believe that happened with the Tea party.

Nobody should do that kind of crap, but inevitably some people will on both sides. Could we also cover the details of the issue rather than spend a lot of time playing juvenile “your side does it more” games.

Oregon Conservative said:
Dear Governor Walker:

For starting the wave that will banish unions to where the belong (history books), you are my hero! Please divorce your wife (if you’re married) and marry me!

Love,
Oregon

P.S. This Oregonian is glad we have two Dem senators, 4 of 5 Reps are Dems and a Dem governor.

valkyrie101 said:
Unlike those bussed in tea partiers who you were previously defending? The protest itself is democracy in action.

Sure, sweetpea. The Tea Parties are government backed, right? But, these protesters want to raise taxes on you to help pay their salaries, health care, (early) retirement, and every other perk that they can extract, form the TAXPAYER who mostly does NOT have these benefits, and 0bama supports their union. Bite me.

Yoda002 said:
P.S. This Oregonian is glad we have two Dem senators, 4 of 5 Reps are Dems and a Dem governor.

Why?

WCinWI said:
Oh also, your statistic on WI pay is wrong as someone was on Fox earlier talking about the avg. salaries. What’s your next argument?

That means maybe they were right, and maybe they were not. It doesn’t become factual just because it was on TV.

Yoda002 said:
P.S. This Oregonian is glad we have two Dem senators, 4 of 5 Reps are Dems and a Dem governor.

And enough unemployment, and debt to bring down 2 medium sized countries.

paulmdoro said:
Common sense says that Walker is giving different treatment to police and fire unions because they are more supportive of him and his policies.

Due respect, but I disagree. Not to diminish the role of teachers , but Firefighters and police officers do risk their lives on a regular basis. Maybe that, or he anticipated a strike and didn’t want the police and firefighters to strike.
You may be exactly right but there are other options that make sense.

ndanielson said:
And enough unemployment, and debt to bring down 2 medium sized countries.

Don’t confuse him. He lives in a very simple world where D=good and R=bad.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Why?

I don’t want us to turn into Mexico. I think this country needs a middle class.

Yoda002 said:
P.S. This Oregonian is glad we have two Dem senators, 4 of 5 Reps are Dems and a Dem governor.

P.S. This Oregonian is proud to have sued successfully to keep SEIU out of her office. Right to Work baby!

P.P.S. Merkley is a dirtbag.

LibertySister said:
This is odd since the fact is that the majority of the people who voted for Obama had no more then a 3rd grade education.

Really? Got a citation for that, or are you just talking out of your hindquarters? I’d say the latter is true.

bobmoses said:
Like all liberals, the Mediaite staff are hypocrites.

THAT’S a generalizing statement if I’ve ever seen one!

I hope Mediaite will show how those left wing kooks are caring on behind the Fox news reporter trying to report on this story. Talk about disrespectful.

“THAT’S a generalizing statement if I’ve ever seen one!”

Wow! You have a real penchant for stating the obvious, don’t you? Thank goodness you are here to prevent folks from being confused.

libra blue said:
I hope Mediaite will show how those left wing kooks are caring on behind the Fox news reporter trying to report on this story. Talk about disrespectful.

it was funny though when the reporter asked him his opinion other than fox lies, he look like a deer in the headlights

Mr.Papshmer said:
Don’t confuse him. He lives in a very simple world where D=good and R=bad.

Let me correct you on that R= bad, Not bad R=evil They rob the poor/middle class to give to the rich.

bobmoses said:
“THAT’S a generalizing statement if I’ve ever seen one!” Wow! You have a real penchant for stating the obvious, don’t you? Thank goodness you are here to prevent folks from being confused.

Good to know that you know you’re generalizing. Perhaps you see how ridiculous it is, as well?

Yoda002 said:
I don’t want us to turn into Mexico. I think this country needs a middle class.

Then become a country of laws, not of men who make laws. Have you ever seen an immigration rally? And those silly clowns that want to take back some states for Mexico? Do you think they will want to run them like Mexico if they ever got their wish?

WCinWI said:
And tons of them are making $70,000+. :)

care to support that? That’s not what Paul’s page shows. The highest listed was $62and change

Yoda002 said:
I don’t want us to turn into Mexico. I think this country needs a middle class.

As long as the free market is allowed to survive, there will always be a middle class. It’s in nations where there is a restricted or no free market, that suffer the greatest wealth gaps between rich and poor. (Like Mexico)

Also, interestingly, the unemployment rate in Oregon is over ten percent, and much of the state is depressed, (read: shrinking middle class) while Texas, as an example, a very red state, has an unemployment rate more than a full point under the national average and a healthy middle class.

“Ummmm…why would the media call a lotta White people mad at White lawmakers bigots or racists?”

Makes as much sense as the ignorant and baseless accusations of racism hurled at the Tea Partiers. The only evidence that liberals were able to come up with for their smear on the Tea Party were signs much like the ones carried by the WI protesters.

The only evidence that liberals had for their smear was the skin color of the President. As the liberals in WI demonstrate, you can find find identical behavior among protesters for whom race is obviously not an issue. Of course, intolerant losers will always find a reason to assume that anyone who doesn’t share their narrow minded views is immoral, so I have no expectation of changing anyone’s mind.

stoogedudes said:
Really? Got a citation for that, or are you just talking out of your hindquarters? I’d say the latter is true.

THAT’S a generalizing statement if I’ve ever seen one!

Seeing as you just represented a third grade or lower handling of his statement (including the poor grammar skills), I would side with that commenter.

libra blue said:
I hope Mediaite will show how those left wing kooks are caring on behind the Fox news reporter trying to report on this story. Talk about disrespectful.

What’s disrespectful is the lies that Fox constantly tells like the one they had to apologize for yesterday.

__________________________________________________________________
Day 10 since Henny Glenny was struck by an overwhelming feeling that Egypt is the beginning of a growing evil that is going to spread a global Muslim caliphate and with the help of the communists and progressives create a New World Order ending our way of life as we know it.

CosmosDan said:
care to support that? That’s not what Paul’s page shows. The highest listed was $62and change

http://www.postcrescent.com/article/99999999/APC0110/80221166

Teachers with a masters degrees tend to have $70,000+ salaries. Go to that site to check it out, per documented numbers. :)

“Good to know that you know you’re generalizing. Perhaps you see how ridiculous it is, as well?”

LOL. Thanks for the deep insight, Professor.

You know what is really ridiculous? The fact that no matter what time of the day I post here and regardless of the topic, you are trolling here at all hours. So ridiculous in fact that you feel the need to castigate others for mild hyperbole. You are wasting your life correcting strangers about rhetorical flourishes that do not appeal to you. Step away from the computer and get a life.

BFD said:
What’s disrespectful is the lies that Fox constantly tells like the one they had to apologize for yesterday.

__________________________________________________________________
Day 10 since Henny Glenny was struck by an overwhelming feeling that Egypt is the beginning of a growing evil that is going to spread a global Muslim caliphate and with the help of the communists and progressives create a New World Order ending our way of life as we know it.

What’s disrespectful is that you feel the need to copy Olby.

WCinWI said:
Seeing as you just represented a third grade or lower handling of his statement (including the poor grammar skills), I would side with that commenter.

Which one? I’d say both statements are ridiculous.

Wait, Bob was being sarcastic, wasn’t he? Because he surely knows not all liberals are hypocrites. And I’m sure libertysister was being sarcastic, since surely she has never seen any evidence of the majority of Obama voters having 3rd grade or lower education.

So you’re criticizing my grammar skills? What are you, the grammar police?

WCinWI said:
http://www.postcrescent.com/article/99999999/APC0110/80221166

Teachers with a masters degrees tend to have $70,000+ salaries. Go to that site to check it out, per documented numbers. :)

If that isn’t enough money, they can always moonlight as entrepreneurs like the rest of us, or change their jobs.

stoogedudes said:
Which one? I’d say both statements are ridiculous.

Wait, Bob was being sarcastic, wasn’t he? Because he surely knows not all liberals are hypocrites. And I’m sure libertysister was being sarcastic, since surely she has never seen any evidence of the majority of Obama voters having 3rd grade or lower education.

So you’re criticizing my grammar skills? What are you, the grammar police?

Seeing as one of the talking points that liberals tend to use is that Republicans are uneducated and are against elite education, I thought it would be prudent to show one’s errors in their grammar skills. One step for conservative-kind. :)

Also, the fact that you felt the need to respond to such non-points only speaks to your own thoughts on the matter. I would agree with Bob in that liberals that promote victim organizations and causes are hypocrites.

Can you explain to me how creating victimhood is a good thing for society?

ndanielson said:
If that isn’t enough money, they can always moonlight as entrepreneurs like the rest of us, or change their jobs.

Teachers also get summers off, holidays off, sick days that get bankrolled from year to year, etc.

It seems reasonable to ask for more and to have salaries be negotiable.

WCinWI said:
Teachers also get summers off, holidays off, sick days that get bankrolled from year to year, etc. It seems reasonable to ask for more and to have salaries be negotiable.

Careful, some union guy will come in here and tell you that you’d never last 2 weeks in a teaching job.

ndanielson said:
Look at how many school administrators there are in WI that make over 100k. The list is so long it would probably take some 12 pages here. Also not included in teachers, and administrative salaries of WI, is 20k in health benefits. I believe there are some 300,000 federal workers who receive 20k in healtcare benefits in WI’s “workforce”.

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/02/17/watch-wisconsin-part-iv-the-salary-info-big-labor-doesnt-want-you-to-see/

I can agree that when there is a crunch and a crisis people have to be willing to take a cut. I don’t understand the issue with collective bargaining and why that’s a bad thing.
What cracks me up is that now these teachers are supposedly making too much with high salaries and benefits, but when the Dems wanted to raise the tax bracket 3 or 4 % points for those above $250,000 the republicans had a shit fit.

Why can’t the governor and the teachers union agree on wage and/or benefit cuts without changing collective bargaining and again, why is collective bargaining a bad thing?

WCinWI said:
http://www.postcrescent.com/article/99999999/APC0110/80221166

Teachers with a masters degrees tend to have $70,000+ salaries. Go to that site to check it out, per documented numbers. :)

I’m afraid that’s not evidence for me. Not knowing much about WI, I can’t really use that engine.

There was already a link listing high salaries for administrators. $100k plus. I know when companies have to cut corners middle management and admin positions are cut.

bobmoses said:
Makes as much sense as the ignorant and baseless accusations of racism hurled at the Tea Partiers

Maybe you folks can stop whining about that and playing that particular victim card all the dam time.

There were some racists in the early stages of the Tea Party and the press and some on the left over reacted.
Let’s move on.

CosmosDan said:
I’m afraid that’s not evidence for me. Not knowing much about WI, I can’t really use that engine.

There was already a link listing high salaries for administrators. $100k plus. I know when companies have to cut corners middle management and admin positions are cut.

You don’t have to know WI to understand how to work a website link. I mean seriously. Do you know how silly you just sounded? Beyond insane.

CosmosDan said:
Maybe you folks can stop whining about that and playing that particular victim card all the dam time.

There were some racists in the early stages of the Tea Party and the press and some on the left over reacted.
Let’s move on.

No – The Conservatives are always lambasted in the media. It is finally time that Conservatives stand up to those in their own party and those on the Left.

CosmosDan said:
I can agree that when there is a crunch and a crisis people have to be willing to take a cut. I don’t understand the issue with collective bargaining and why that’s a bad thing.
What cracks me up is that now these teachers are supposedly making too much with high salaries and benefits, but when the Dems wanted to raise the tax bracket 3 or 4 % points for those above $250,000 the republicans had a shit fit.

Why can’t the governor and the teachers union agree on wage and/or benefit cuts without changing collective bargaining and again, why is collective bargaining a bad thing?

Perhaps you don’t understand it, but most families with two corporate jobs and most small businesses earn more than $250,000. That is why there should not be a tax increase on small businesses. How can liberals not get this? Sheesh.

bobmoses said:
“Good to know that you know you’re generalizing. Perhaps you see how ridiculous it is, as well?” LOL. Thanks for the deep insight, Professor. You know what is really ridiculous? The fact that no matter what time of the day I post here and regardless of the topic, you are trolling here at all hours. So ridiculous in fact that you feel the need to castigate others for mild hyperbole. You are wasting your life correcting strangers about rhetorical flourishes that do not appeal to you. Step away from the computer and get a life.

Sorry, I’m not on here as much as you think, and don’t think you’re so special. Besides, I’ve responded to you only a couple times. You act as if I target you everytime you say something. When you make ridiculous statements, I’ll respond to it. No one likes to be unfairly accused of something, so they defend themselves. That’s what I’m doing. Sorry, human nature. Don’t say such ridiculous things if you don’t like people calling you out.

Why do you feel the need to participate in hyperbole, even mild? Perhaps I know what you were doing though. Because there are so many accusations from the left that the Tea Party is racist and violent, a few people such as yourself feel the need to sarcastically respond in kind to prove a point.

WCinWI said:
Seeing as one of the talking points that liberals tend to use is that Republicans are uneducated and are against elite education, I thought it would be prudent to show one’s errors in their grammar skills. One step for conservative-kind. :) Also, the fact that you felt the need to respond to such non-points only speaks to your own thoughts on the matter. I would agree with Bob in that liberals that promote victim organizations and causes are hypocrites. Can you explain to me how creating victimhood is a good thing for society?

I don’t use those arguments. If I have in the past, I regret it. Also, I don’t criticize people for their grammar or spelling skills, so you’re not proving any point with me.

Again, they may be non points, but I don’t appreciate being called a hypocrite, hyperbole or not. I don’t imagine it sits too well with you and Bob when you get called racists and ignorant.

Here’s the thing. I don’t think Tea Partiers are racist or violent. I know many Tea Partiers and they are neither. I condemn the blanket generalizations that Tea Partiers are racist and violent. I’ve said this before on here.

stoogedudes said:
Sorry, I’m not on here as much as you think, and don’t think you’re so special. Besides, I’ve responded to you only a couple times. You act as if I target you everytime you say something. When you make ridiculous statements, I’ll respond to it. No one likes to be unfairly accused of something, so they defend themselves. That’s what I’m doing. Sorry, human nature. Don’t say such ridiculous things if you don’t like people calling you out.

Why do you feel the need to participate in hyperbole, even mild? Perhaps I know what you were doing though. Because there are so many accusations from the left that the Tea Party is racist and violent, a few people such as yourself feel the need to sarcastically respond in kind to prove a point.

I don’t use those arguments. If I have in the past, I regret it. Also, I don’t criticize people for their grammar or spelling skills, so you’re not proving any point with me.

Again, they may be non points, but I don’t appreciate being called a hypocrite, hyperbole or not. I don’t imagine it sits too well with you and Bob when you get called racists and ignorant.

Here’s the thing. I don’t think Tea Partiers are racist or violent. I know many Tea Partiers and they are neither. I condemn the blanket generalizations that Tea Partiers are racist and violent. I’ve said this before on here.

I appreciate your sentiment. :)

Listen, what’s so hard about this?

Both Wall Street (banks & finance) and the Unions have to be fudamentally changed.

The financial industry can’t be usurping investment capital to engorge their own net worths, and then BUY both Repubs & Dems to legislate their GREED.
They are representatives of the company (U.S.), and the compensation for selling the product (money) needs to be drastically constrained – for any number of the right reasons.

The Unions, we’ve been talking about.

stoogedudes said:
Sorry, I’m not on here as much as you think, and don’t think you’re so special. Besides, I’ve responded to you only a couple times. You act as if I target you everytime you say something. When you make ridiculous statements, I’ll respond to it. No one likes to be unfairly accused of something, so they defend themselves. That’s what I’m doing. Sorry, human nature. Don’t say such ridiculous things if you don’t like people calling you out. Why do you feel the need to participate in hyperbole, even mild? Perhaps I know what you were doing though. Because there are so many accusations from the left that the Tea Party is racist and violent, a few people such as yourself feel the need to sarcastically respond in kind to prove a point. I don’t use those arguments. If I have in the past, I regret it. Also, I don’t criticize people for their grammar or spelling skills, so you’re not proving any point with me. Again, they may be non points, but I don’t appreciate being called a hypocrite, hyperbole or not. I don’t imagine it sits too well with you and Bob when you get called racists and ignorant. Here’s the thing. I don’t think Tea Partiers are racist or violent. I know many Tea Partiers and they are neither. I condemn the blanket generalizations that Tea Partiers are racist and violent. I’ve said this before on here.

Very nicely said.
The non-politic media is still primarily controlled by the left, and they are complicit, along with most Democrats, in creating and perpetuating knowingly false narratives – always favorable to their agenda.

Calvin said:
“Hitler abolished unions!” Hitler was a vegetarian. Bob is a vegetarian. Bob must be Hitler.

perceptorii said:
And Walker isn’t even trying to abolish unions, just restrict the ability of public sector unions to bargain collectively on certain issues. So it’s more like “Hitler was a vegetarian. Bob enjoys an occasional salad. Bob must be Hitler.”

Correct.

WCinWI said:
Correct. Even though Obama can’t stand America, no political person should be called a Nazy or other form of dictator. Except for maybe Pelosi. That woman is nuts. Just sayin’….. :)

Really, he can’t stand America? Is that why he’s NOT taking action against supposed America haters who are being shot in Libya?? Wow, I would think a leader who wished doom upon his country would support the protesters..who are unhappy with Israel and the way their country is being puppeted by the US. But he isn’t.

Find a new argument. Your beloved America is failing fast…and it’s not because of Obama. It’s people like you who put so much faith in one party…one country. The rest of the world is kicking our ass at everything but Military strength…shitty thing is we are not producing an intelligent populace. We have doom written all over us. The democrats don’t have an answer and you can bet your ass your republican buddies aren’t going to do shit. The answer…YOU!

… but you’ll have to pull your head out of that elephant’s ass.

WCinWI said:
Perhaps you don’t understand it, but most families with two corporate jobs and most small businesses earn more than $250,000. That is why there should not be a tax increase on small businesses. How can liberals not get this? Sheesh.

families with two cooperate jobs? So a family making more than $250,000 a year shouldn’t be burdened with an extra 4% because , gee, they’re a family? I see. Don’t WI teachers have families? It’s no wonder liberals don’t get it when it’s explained like that.

The small business issue was partly true, but completely exaggerated. The number of small businesses adversely affected was very small compared to the hundreds of billions it cost us in income.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/30/AR2010073002671.html
“This claim is misleading. If, as proposed, the Bush tax cuts are allowed to expire for the highest earners, the vast majority of small businesses will be unaffected. Less than 2 percent of tax returns reporting small-business income are filed by taxpayers in the top two income brackets — individuals earning more than about $170,000 a year and families earning more than about $210,000 a year.”
” If the objective is to help small businesses, continuing the Bush tax cuts on high-income taxpayers isn’t the way to go — it would miss more than 98 percent of small-business owners and would primarily help people who don’t make most of their money off those businesses.”

I think I understand fairly well.

WCinWI said:
You don’t have to know WI to understand how to work a website link. I mean seriously. Do you know how silly you just sounded? Beyond insane.

It ‘s a search engine that asks for school districts or teachers names and other info I don’t have. Maybe I missed something on the site. You’re free to make all the assertions you like without supporting them. It’s okay. I just tend to like evidence before I take them to seriously.

CosmosDan said:
families with two cooperate jobs? So a family making more than $250,000 a year shouldn’t be burdened with an extra 4% because , gee, they’re a family? I see. Don’t WI teachers have families? It’s no wonder liberals don’t get it when it’s explained like that.

The small business issue was partly true, but completely exaggerated. The number of small businesses adversely affected was very small compared to the hundreds of billions it cost us in income.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/30/AR2010073002671.html
“This claim is misleading. If, as proposed, the Bush tax cuts are allowed to expire for the highest earners, the vast majority of small businesses will be unaffected. Less than 2 percent of tax returns reporting small-business income are filed by taxpayers in the top two income brackets — individuals earning more than about $170,000 a year and families earning more than about $210,000 a year.”
” If the objective is to help small businesses, continuing the Bush tax cuts on high-income taxpayers isn’t the way to go — it would miss more than 98 percent of small-business owners and would primarily help people who don’t make most of their money off those businesses.”

I think I understand fairly well.

I guess the big difference is (for people like me anyway) is that these people that are protesting (and being treated FAR better by the MSM than the Tea Party when THEY protested something they didn’t like) are being paid by the tax payers. Their pay and benefits far outweigh their private sector counterparts and they are demanding to keep them no matter the consequence. I loved the woman demanding the Gov. “Come to the table” but wants the Dems to run and hide. But back to my point. The two “cooperate incomes” come from the private sector and GIVE to the take base while the union folks are TAKING form the tax base. Haven’t those paying paid enough and haven’t those taking taken enough. I guess that’s the difference I see anyway. :)

They softballed this.

Color Me Badd said:
The whole system is crumbling and you guys are worried about Hitler signs. Haha.

Your system is crumbling, not ours. Get used to being a minority from now on.

ndanielson said:
Then become a country of laws, not of men who make laws. Have you ever seen an immigration rally? And those silly clowns that want to take back some states for Mexico? Do you think they will want to run them like Mexico if they ever got their wish?

nd If you look at Yoda’s posts, he’s a delusional shroom-eating west coast lotus dude.

Liberal civility:

http://hillbuzz.org/2011/02/19/signs-carried-by-pro-union-leftists-at-madison-wi-rally-advocated-rape-of-conservative-women/

Hugo Daun said:
Those idiots with the Hitler-type signs and violent rhetoric are just right-wing plants who are trying to make liberals look bad.

(Sound familiar?)

We were able to prove it on video… can you.:)

Yoda002 said:
All this is, is the multinational corporations including the Koch brothers trying to bust the unions, so unions wouldn’t be able to give money to Democrats. The big multinational corporations want a one party rule, an Oligarchy /Fascist society. Well a one party rule didn’t work too well for the Soviet Union.

Wise you are not, I think.

WCinWI said:
Actually no, as WI resident….I welcome the teachers to continue their fight. Not only is this political suicide locally, but nationally it’s going to reflect poorly on Obama. I welcome the protests. Think of all those parents that are going to “waste” their work days for their kids.

Absolutely right.

The national Democrats want to gear up a campaign to paint the congressional Republicans as extremists who want to destroy Social Security and Medicare. But the teachers unions and other public employees unions in the states are reminding the voters that Democrats are the enemies of the taxpayers, everywhere.

I’m wondering who’s putting these guys up while they’re staying down here?

The Illinois taxpayers?

Or are they paying their own way?

There are so many things to comment on here. First off, anyone who thinks citing a Hitler reference is a good idea needs to go back and review their notes from Protest 101. It’s *never* a good idea. Even if there’s some connection (as in, “among the people he terrorized were labor unionists”), Hitler was not merely a bad man, but a true monster. Only Pol Pot comes close (even Mao and Stalin were more systematic and less crazy), and Pol Pot was a piker compared to Hitler. So don’t use the reference.

However, Walker is behaving tyrranically and does bear comparison to Mubarak in that his attacks have driven the people into the streets, so I give the protestors a pass on that one.

And my final point is, who’s primarily responsible for degrading political rhetoric to the abysmal levels we see now? Right-wingnuts and Ministry of Fear Fox News. While people in all times and all societies have and will continue making rash statements when they’re pissed off, the wingnutariat and Fox apparatchiks have made this sort of divisive political potty-mouth their stock in trade. Where did the “Reload” meme come from, anyway? Who’s mashed up liberal with socialist with nazi with halitosis as a steady drumbeat over the last 20 years?

We’re talking sauce for the goose and sauce for the gander.

And just a hint: where a provocatarian humorist says something it’s a tad different when the Speaker of the House says something. Folks should apply a little proportion to their evaluation of what’s being said.