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Chris Matthews Show Panelist: Obama In 2008 Was ‘Hope,’ In 2012 He’ll Use ‘Politics Of Fear’

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Chris Matthews hosted a discussion with his guests regarding what President Obama might have to do in order to appeal to independent voters and get re-elected? While some on the panel suggested it will be difficult to get young voters out in the same numbers as in 2008, New York magazine’s John Heilemann warned Matthews that this time around in 2012, the “hope” is very much gone and Obama’s strategy will be the “politics of fear.”

Heilemann predicted:

“The core difference between 2008 and 2012 is going to be the politics of hope, which we saw in 2008, versus the politics of fear in 2012. They won’t call it that, but so much of this campaign in terms of driving turnout among all these groups, is going to be about making the Republican alternative totally unacceptable.”

Regardless if the public wants to the see Obama trash his opponents, Heilemann says the “onslaught of negative advertising” against the Republican nominee will be used quite simply because it works. Matthews was skeptical that such a strategy was smart, and even Joe Klein thought that if Obama goes too negative, it merely will encourage many voters to just stay home and not vote at all.

And in a final revealing moment, Matthews best summed up the likely mood of the elusive independent voter, as someone who is “just looking for something better than they got – and it may be Obama – but it’s got to be better than the first term.” Therefore, even if “hope” can’t be part of Obama’s campaign again, it looks like “change” from the present will still need to be featured prominently in order to re-energize his support.

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  • Anonymous

    Obama has no choice but to use fear, sadly he’s nothing correct to boast about.

  • Tampopoloco

    Well it’s worked for republicans for how many years now?

  • Anonymous

    I’d be willing to get Obama won’t go “scorched Earth” unlike the last re-elect we saw.

  • Anonymous

    The only news here is that he apparently didn’t run on fear in 2008. The whole “change” thing was “4 more years of Bush”. That was the real mantra of his campaign and the central attack on McCain. Why shouldn’t he stick with what worked so well the first go-round? After all, what part(s) of his hope campaign did he deliver on?

  • Anonymous

    In 2008, Obama may have called it hope, but he ran on:
    1. Bush is bad
    2. If you don’t support me, you are racist

    In 2012, he will run on the following:
    1. It was all Bush’s fault, don’t blame me
    2. Teaparty memebers are racist and won’t let me govern, it is their fault
    3. If you don’t support me, you are a racist

    Chris Matthews will feel another tingle up his leg, David Brooks will still admire the crease in the pants of Obama.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WH3ZLMM7CUKUHUIMK4TKXW6SQE John

    Heilemann won’t be working fpr MSNBC anytime soon.  You are not allowed to criticize the White House apparently.  

  • Anonymous

    What else does he have to run on? He sure doesn’t have any positive results, and he sure as hell can’t run on leadership and competence. 

    All that Hope baloney was a farce to begin with and Obama was able to carry it all off because of his fawning press who gave him free campaign commercials 24/7/365.

    Think Heilemann will ever be back on the show? Everyone knows the White House will have something to say about his comments to Chris Matthew’s producers. He might end up disappeared like Halperin.

    And the mood of the independent voter is very negative concerning Obama as the latest Gallup poll demonstrates: 

    “Republican Candidate” Extends Lead vs. Obama to 47% to 39%

  • SNAPTIE

    Obama will run on his new slogan.  “WTF” happened.

  • Anonymous

    Well said.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Interesting, but we have been seeing this for sometime now…  and now we see it with the debt limit..  don’t get me wrong, as if these guys don’t work something out, it will be bad for our economy and it will eventually reach down to our daily lives as many governmental agencies will lose funding, and they provide function that we have come to take for granted and will sorely miss if they are closed down.  I don’t think that anyone can at this point accurately project the ramifications to our daily lives at this point should this occur.  Having said that all this talk about default is just not true, there will be no default, so many pundits are calling for the president to use the 14th amendment to raise the debt ceiling, and that is just not an option, seperation of powers in Article 1 clearly make borrowing on the credit of the United States a power reserved for congress. I would say that the more over 14th amendment prohibits the president from allowing any default as it calls on him to recognize the country’s debt and he can not avoid our responsibility to pay it..  More over if you look at the debates on SS, Medicare, and Medicad, Democrats are using this as a club to beat the Republicans over the head with because they openly recognized the problem of insolvency and put a plan on the table to address the issue..  Democrats at the most vocal, are using this to lobby senior citizens against their Republican foes, in quieter moments Democrats recognize that there is an issue as it can hardly be denied…  What is clear to me is that the Democrats have not come to the republicans and said yes, we have a problem, but we don’t like certain aspects of the solution you have offered, can we sit down and work something out? To the contrary, they have found it to be more profitable to demonize the republicans for showing leadership on the issue.  This is the same old stuff practiced by both sides, it is the same old politics that have lead us to this point in the debt crisis, Washington using issues for political gain, instead of working to solve the countries problems.  Now we can expect the levels to rise, and an even more divisive political climate as the elections approach.

  • Anonymous

    Brilliant retort. You must have thought of that all by yourself. Who is threatening seniors now with social security? Who is threatening the vets that they won’t get the care they are owed? Who always threatens these groups?

    The left.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arthur-Clark/100000610136790 Arthur Clark

    heilman just wants to join the dipstick he wrote the book with these blowhards look foolish and have no clue what their talking about it’s sad when al sharpton is the voice of reason in today’s media… Another white man who will not for the life of them admit that the presidents supposedly failure is that of white people to admit the racism extreme we see everyday in the media and in politics is whats holding the nation back , no more no less. what future do we have when we will let the house catch on fire and hope we can get insurance money to build again look folks when it burns down it will be gone forever please know that…. 

  • Anonymous

    The real fear for everyone is if Obama wins :

    What will The Organizer do to us if he does not have to worry about reelection ?

  • Anonymous

    Funny you should mention Brooks. He’s gone “full-on racist” inferring Obama is an “angry Black”:

    “Shambles, a complete meltdown, apparently,” Brooks said. “I’ve never seen a presidential press conference with the president so angry in public.

    But the president’s tone of being the only adult in Washington, everyone else is a child, that he’s going to summon people to the White House as if they are kindergarteners, even if you agree on the substance, it’s kind of hard to go along with someone who is insulting you all the time.

    He’s angry. He’s treating them like children. But a lot of people will take a look at it and say there’s a little arrogance and self-superiority there.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arthur-Clark/100000610136790 Arthur Clark

    dumb ignorant white man

  • Anonymous

    “I won’t have to worry about my mortgage! I won’t have to worry about putting gas in my car!”

    o’bama took the house and the car. Can you afford 4 more years of “sacrifice” when we are the only ones with “skin in the game”?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arthur-Clark/100000610136790 Arthur Clark

    even dumber white man

  • Anonymous

    I’ll bet he takes all of the o’s off of the WH keyboards.

  • Anonymous

    Heilemann, Halperin, & Halitosis: Don’t they go together?

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    Just like your stereotyped loser of a dead beat family man, the money is in his pocket and he tells the family he doesn’t have it. Telling the seniors that made this a free country with more votes for civil rights than any other, he pulls the rug out from under them. Using “terrorist” tactics of fear. How shameful. This is leading a nation? Now he cries foul because he don’t want to put on paper what these cuts will be? He don’t want to add those cuts for the public to see till after elections? Yet he still wnts us to give him another trillion to spend? Please!! A wolf in sheeps clothing taking from the people, not working with or for the people. Just as in real life, we have to live within our means. Quit the politics and lead obama! Enough is enough!!

  • Anonymous

    And the Republicans are going to nominate whom to run against Obama? It had better be “none of the above” of the so-far declared candidates. They are either looney-tune crazy or dull as dishwater, or completely incompetent (or some combination of the three), and NONE of them inspires. ALL of them would pick Supreme Court “justices” in the vein of Clarence Thomas and Sam Alito–not good for the country.

    I’ll take Obama any time over the clowns so far running on the right. I know full well that 40% of American voters will vote Republican even if their ticket consists of Yogi Bear and Boo-Boo. It’s still not a rational reason to vote Republican. If we had voted in McCain and Palin, we would have had a semi-senile President and a corrupt, ignorant, self-serving unbalanced Vice-President. And 40% of America would be cheering them on for no other treason than Fox Noise told them to.

    If the Republicans want to unseat Obama, they had better find themselves someone competent and inspiring, and no one with both of those two qualities has yet to declare themselves as a candidate for the Republican nomination for President in 2012. I’m not saying Obama is unbeatable. But he has little to fear from the crowd so far in the headlines.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arthur-Clark/100000610136790 Arthur Clark

    do you realize that the gop has no viable candidate on the planet literally. but I’m sure your delusional conscious, wont allow you to see that fact. It’s hilarious to read your comments just to knowing that they’re so many dumb-ass people in america. BTW, he should end up like halperin that’s what he wanted anyway. His boy got sat down for disrespecting a BLACK LEADER,something that has never happened before. YOU AND YOUR ILK, better learn this acronym H.N.I.C. ……………….   

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arthur-Clark/100000610136790 Arthur Clark

    RACIST CRACKERS HAPPENED, ALONG WITH JEALOUS BLACK PEOPLE THE TWO MIXED MAKES A HERMAN CAIN………

  • Anonymous

    Fact: I wished people would of paid attention to all the fear republicans put out about Obama because it all came true now look at the economy it’s worst now than when Hopey Changey started.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Class act lib!

  • Anonymous

    Thats right ,, and all the racist crackers are gonna make sure Obama will go back to being a leech and society…..Like most of you

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Liberal being liberal. Total class total morals.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Yeah, we are working on a generic poster board to run against him, so far the polls say things are looking good and getting better.

  • Anonymous

    o’bama is losing in the polls to a republican named… “Generic”! Whch means ANYONE BUT o’bama. Nice o’bama rhetoric you got going there. If no one can beat your messiah, why are you so angry?

    It’s all about biden’s favorite 3 letter word, J-O-B-S. o’bama kills jobs.

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t o’bama half “typical white person” too?

  • Anonymous

    HNIC is a repulsive racial epithet. It doesn’t matter who uses it. For your own sake, try to find a way to keep yourself calm…the election hasn’t even started yet. You’re going to give yourself a stroke.

  • John

    Poor Chris Mathews and libtard panel haven’t got a clue. The only way Obummer gets reelected is if the American public turns a blind eye at how his socialist policies and political agenda are wiping out the middle class. You got to be moronic to want to reelect this guy in the oval office. His best days are when he is playing golf or vacationing in Europe. What a leader we have, it’s just so amazing. Hope and change has turned to Misery and Despair.

  • Anonymous

    And he directed it to the POTUS. Someone he obviously supports.

    “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation
    where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of
    their character.”

    Not as long as Sir arthur up there has any say about it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JackpotHunter Rudy Lopez

    Matthews thinks giving Obama a second term will be new and improved. What a joke!

  • SNAPTIE

    If you criticize the Sugar Daddy,now that he has run out of sugar “you’re a Racist”

  • Anonymous

    Thats what i thought.. But sometimes you have to fight the outrageous with more outrageous.. It seems for years the liberals act nuts and scream and yell and make insane accusations..Its time the rest of the country fought back

  • Anonymous

    Thats what i thought.. But sometimes you have to fight the outrageous with more outrageous.. It seems for years the liberals act nuts and scream and yell and make insane accusations..Its time the rest of the country fought back

  • http://www.facebook.com/JackpotHunter Rudy Lopez

    Obama has to realize being POTUS requires  more than reciting written speeches.

  • Anonymous

    General Election: Romney vs. Obama    FOX News    Obama 47, Romney 41    Obama +6

    General Election: Bachmann vs. Obama    FOX News    Obama 49, Bachmann 38    Obama +11

    General Election: Pawlenty vs. Obama    FOX News    Obama 47, Pawlenty 37    Obama +10

    General Election: Perry vs. Obama    FOX News    Obama 47, Perry 37    Obama +10
     

  • Anonymous

    Chris Matthews knows what he is talking about.  After all, who knows more about demonizing opponents, playing on fear, and avoiding substantive discussion of issues?   MSNBC “went negative” years ago, and has never looked back.

    The problem, however, is that this kind of mudslinging approach to politics appeals to the far left, but turns off moderates and intermediates   Just look at the surveys on MSNBC’s audience if you have any doubts about that.   So it categorically won’t work in next year’s election. 

  • Anonymous

    PRINCETON, NJ — Registered voters by a significant margin now say they
    are more likely to vote for the “Republican Party’s candidate for
    president” than for President Barack Obama in the 2012 election, 47% to
    39%. Preferences had been fairly evenly divided this year in this test
    of Obama’s re-election prospects.
    The latest results are based on a July 7-10 poll, and show that the
    Republican has an edge for the second consecutive month. Obama held a
    slight edge in May, when his approval rating increased after the death
    of Osama bin Laden. As his rating has come back down during the last two
    months, so has his standing on the presidential “generic ballot.”

    By “GENERIC” they mean, anyone other than a NAMED candidate.

  • Anonymous

    Like they do here.

  • South Park Conservatives

    The hope and change con won’t work in 2012.Obama will use fear and the race card in 2012.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLaLsNkaEq8 Unicon

    Stop scaring my Grandma Barry !1!!!!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLaLsNkaEq8 Unicon

    You might want to look at the polling in swing states…

  • Anonymous

    Barry’s campaign will go from “Hope and Change” to “Fear and Blame”. Little Barry doesn’t have the fortitude to be accountable or to lead. If he manages to buy or bully his way into re-election, we can kiss our collective ass goodbye. The result will be more catastrophic than the nuclear threat during the cold war.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, the levels of this ‘Ignorance’ will continue to rise, as long as the jokes on ‘We The People’…..as you stated, ‘the ramifications to our daily lives’ that we take for granted…hopefully we wake us up for our deep sleep!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arthur-Clark/100000610136790 Arthur Clark

    LOL UR TOO STUPID THE TRUTH HURTS HUH LOL THIS GREAT

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arthur-Clark/100000610136790 Arthur Clark

    U WISH

  • Jerry Baustian

    According to last weeks Public Policy Polling survey, there are FIVE Republican candidates who can be considered tied with or leading Barack Obama. They reached this conclusion by analyzing the “undecided” voters and their attitudes toward President Obama. The “undecideds” start out with a mostly negative opinion of Obama, but they aren’t sure what to think about the Republican matched up against Obama in each poll question.

    President Obama has no intention of running on his record. He and his surrogates have already been running a negative campaign, and they plan to spend at least $750 million to continue with the negativity.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arthur-Clark/100000610136790 Arthur Clark

    YOU GOT IT no lib here can care less who wins.. You conservatives are raging bigots and it ooozzes from your post and i call it like i see it. Wake up, you clowns are done.. The same for the spineless democrats who won’t point you bigots to the door… What are you fighting for the insane policies of the right…have fun

  • Anonymous

    No, doofus. They mean someone who isn’t a clown spectacle like the pathetic losers the Republicans have running for the nomination. Your cupboard is DRY! You had best start a national search for this person named “Generic Republican.” It’s the Republicans’ only hope!

  • Anonymous

    The extremist right-wing Tea Baggers are threatening seniors and holding the ENTIRE NATION’S economy hostage with the debt ceiling. It’s not a great platform to run on in 2012, but then again, they didn’t have one to start with.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arthur-Clark/100000610136790 Arthur Clark

    No your a racist for calling him a sugar daddy.. You could not reply without the racism sneaking out . Damn how do you feel. Sugar Daddy think about what that means and how you are referencing the word. wow your too dumb and racist.. sugar daddy lol..   

  • Nate

    to jmr012:  First of all you’re an idiot.  Do you know that it is your friends that are teabaggers?  A teabagger is one who dunks his scrotum into his boyfriends mouth.  Tea Party members don’t do that.  It is your friends who do.  It is totally idiotic to accuse another, in a negative way, of what you do.

  • Nate

    If being against Obama’s policies that is bankrupting our country and driving it toward socialism makes me a racist then;  I’m a racist. 

  • Nate

    Not all caps please.

  • Anonymous

    The Tea “Party” members PROUDLY called THEMSELVES Tea “Baggers” FOR WEEKS when they started up their little AstroTurf, racist, hate filled psycho club. THEY ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE TEA BAGGERS! They gave themselves the name, and it is APPROPRIATE. Maybe it’s because their white, old, wealthy, racist, birther, hardcore extremist Republican membership likes it kinky? It sounds like they do because you gave a good description of the practice in your comment, Tea Bagger!

  • Nate

    Patriots should go to http://secondmanedmentwarrior.webs.com and sign up to be a Warrior.
    Sheeples – warning – don’t go there.  You’ll get scared and cry.

  • Anonymous

    racist? sugar daddy is not racist

  • Nature Freak

    Your link does not work.
    LOL!
    Epic fail on your part.

  • Nature Freak

    Race card? Republicans are the ones who deal from the bottom of the deck.

  • Anonymous

    The Republicans just don’t have a winner in 2012.  I don’t see it. Anyone care to offer a calm, reasonable rebuttal? Their most electable people (Romney, Huntsman) either do not excite the GOP base…or turn them off altogether.  In my opinion, the others are either too dull, too conservative, or too polarizing to win.There only three who have the charisma to even get close to matching Obama:  Bachmann, Perry, and Cain.-Cain is a little too far right…and lacks campaign discipline. He also doesn’t have experience in elected office…Not a problem, per se….but he’s untested under heavy scrutiny and will not hold up under an intense national campaign.-Bachmann has a history of controversial statements/positions that put her to the right of most Americans.   And, while she seems smart, she doesn’t seem to be super knowledgeable on the big issues (yet).  Her other problem is that she has many of the same flaws that Republicans say Obama has (no executive experience, no major legislative accomplishments).-Perry is a Texan, and I agree that “Texas fatigue” will hurt him….and I don’t think his brand of religious/social conservatism will play well outside of the South.  And then there’s the whole secession thing…Anybody wish to have an *reasonable* debate about this??   I think each of these candidates are fairly reasonable people and I’m not going to call them names.  I’m just listing why I think they can’t win.

  • Anonymous

    Politics of fear, isn’t that what Arianna Huffington said is a Republican strategy? I wonder what she thinks now.

  • Jmusser

    No sorry jmr012, teabag was all an insult from the left, and truthfully it’s ridiculous to lower yourself to that level..insults don’t accomplish anything.  Fact: the government takes in 200 billion a MONTH.  Social security and Medicare combined are 100 billion.  The interest on the debt is 29 billion.  Do the math..that leaves us with 71 billion.  The only one threatening to cut off grandpa and grandma is the liar Obama (not an insult, the truth).  He is resorting to demagoguery..yeah..that’s a fancy word for lying and fear-mongering.  There’s an AWFUL lot that can be cut out of 71 billion.  It’s a farcical statement to say we can’t pay our debt without raising taxes, but that’s the dems for you. 

  • Anonymous

    A real man. A real leader. Here is a video comparing Ronald Reagan to Barack Obama. The Democrats should be ashamed of themselves. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ItivmcAOaE 

  • Anonymous

    If Romney wins the GOP nomination, which he would if the primaries were held today, he would most likely go on to beat Obama in the election. Most polls show them about even right now, but the incumbent always does better in the early polling, which gives the edge to Romney.

  • Anonymous

    The latest Rasmussen poll shows Romney 43, Obama 42. It also shows Obama’s approval rating at 44 and his disapproval rating at 54, so I wouldn’t get too cocky if I were you, BFD.

  • Anonymous

    Obama’s re-election isn’t a sure thing.   But I still think he has the edge over Romney.  

    Romney has the Al Gore problem…he comes off as stiff and uneasy around regular folks….and he seems too consultant-driven.  

    Additionally, most polls show Obama with a lead in the mid single digits…which isn’t great, but is not bad either, considering that Obama hasn’t really been campaigning much yet.

    By virtue of personal charisma and likeability I give an edge to Obama….among other reasons.

  • Anonymous

    lol at Rasmussen, the most unreliable pollster in the last election cycle…

    The 105 2010 polls released in Senate and gubernatorial races by Rasmussen Reports and its subsidiary, Pulse Opinion Research, missed the final margin between the candidates by 5.8 points, a considerably higher figure than that achieved by most other pollsters. Some 13 of its polls missed by 10 or more points, including one in the Hawaii Senate race that missed the final margin between the candidates by 40 points, the largest error ever recorded in a general election in FiveThirtyEight’s database, which includes all polls conducted since 1998.

    Moreover, Rasmussen’s polls were quite biased, overestimating the standing of the Republican candidate by almost 4 points on average. In just 12 cases, Rasmussen’s polls overestimated the margin for the Democrat by 3 or more points. But it did so for the Republican candidate in 55 cases — that is, in more than half of the polls that it issued.

     

  • Jerry Baustian

    You are right about Romney being stiff, but he is not as bad as he was four years ago. My problem with him is that he seems wishy-washy on climate change, and I want someone that will roll back 120% of the Obama-era regulation of CO2; by that I mean I want Bush-era regulations rolled back too.

    As for Obama not campaigning yet… sort of true. But his surrogates are campaigning hard, trashing any GOP candidate who starts to gain a little momentum.

  • SC3441

    I don’t think the Republican base is going to like Michelle Bachmann’s husband, Marcus Bachmann who is pinging gaydar all over the country.  Every time he opens his mouth, a purse falls out.  Rick Perry also has a gay rumor problem in Texas.  Romney is a Mormon, Evangelicals think Mormonism is a cult.

  • Anonymous

    The voting public has waked………Chris Matthews hasn’t discovered it yet but if the election were held tomorrow and the Democrat machine was in full tilt Bozo “savage” mode, it wouldn’t make a bit of difference. A cheese sandwich could beat Obama and the public has no doubt solidified in one particular resolve. They will vote for their favorite candidate……ABO…..Anybody BUT Obama.

  • Anonymous

    “they started up their little AstroTurf, racist, hate filled psycho club. THEY ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE TEA BAGGERS!”

    Talk about projection. That should be in the psychiatrists handbook on the subject. 

  • Anonymous

    I give you Al Sharpton, Shelia Jackson Lee, Maxine Waters, Jesse Jackson and on and on and on.

  • Anonymous

    Yup, that was my first thought as well. This time out he’s going to HOPE that you’ll buy his demagoguery and not notice that he’s still an empty suit.

  • Anonymous

    Arthur, I was wondering…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7WMCZCCCBZQWAITNBD55EHWUPI paul

    Would that mean that every single Dem was holding the nations economy hostage in 06′ when not one of them, including bamster voted against raising the debt ceiling?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NK5INRFELITZ3TS337HINC3VMM Adam

    The closest anyone came to using that pejorative was at the first round of Tea Parties in April 2009 when some attendees at these rallies had posters with tea bags taped to them and “Tea Bag Congress” written on their signs. I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume that they were advocating the hurling of tea bags at Congress(and probably metaphorically, not physically) as a way of recreating the mood of the original Boston Tea Party. I doubt they were referring to the sexual act.

  • Anonymous

    Give Arthur a break. He’s really, really stupid. He can’t help it.

  • Anonymous

    You are an extremely out of touch person who has been fed the lies and whims of the left, and sadly bought into it hook line and sinker. Sad that you can’t see beyond your hatred. The sexual innuendos that the leftist liberals have attached to the Tea Party movement is beyond loathing. It simply speaks to their mindset and lower standards

  • Anonymous

    You certainly nailed it. And just regular peons seem to be able to figure this out. Go figure

  • Anonymous

    Ahhh someone seems to have a chip on his shoulder and cannot think of a coherent intelligent response

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1384486325 Steve Martell

    Easy, calm and clear, still way early.

  • Anonymous

    You seem to be filled with  nothing but hate rhetoric. As well as raging racism. Get the help you need.

  • Anonymous

    What’s your excuse? A sad accident in a dark alley?

  • Anonymous

    Do you have a source for this information? Rasmussen has a reputation for being one of the best.

  • Air95

    Fact; If Obama’s policies had worked then the republicans would have looked foolish but the truth is his policies have made it worse.Company’s are “fearfull” of the unknown and they do not know what taxes and regulations are going to be added to thier costs. What about the Gulf policy of holding up leases, it sure didn’t help with energy costs

  • Anonymous

    SheSmilez, please open *your* eyes to the truth.

  • Anonymous

    SheSmilez, please open *your* eyes to the truth.

  • Anonymous

    No, they were so old and wealthy and AstroTurfed that that they did not know what they were saying. They were calling themselves Tea Baggers out of ignorance. To this day, when I hear Tea Baggers ramble on with their insane notions such as the debt ceiling is meaningless. The first thing I think of is ignorance. Tea Baggers they were. Tea Baggers they are.

  • Anonymous

    Did we have an economic crisis in ’06 in which the Democrats held the nation hostage and threatened the Second Great Depression? I don’t think so. The ceiling was raised. The Republican/Tea Baggers are *all* politics. They will not do what’s in the best interest of the nation like the Democrats did.

  • Anonymous

    Nope, news_junkie65, just telling the truth. There is PLENTY of video evidence. Just head over to YouTube.

  • Lc

    Yep. Just check the misery index.

  • Nautalus01

    I totally agree with you, there are a lot of dumass people in america… just look at the last election….and its results with the people in the street yelling “I wont have to worry bout paying my car note”, I wont have to worry about paying for Gas…Obama will take care of me”!  they were right… now they cannot afford cars so they dont buy them, and since they have no cars they dont have to buy gas to fill them.. yep obama took care ofthat.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JYVAWGBIPKD6KM34635KNVLVGQ Lee

    You and fools like you are a bad joke. Are you as uninformed and corrupt as you appear or justment malevolent and evil? It is one or the other.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JYVAWGBIPKD6KM34635KNVLVGQ Lee

    Elmer Fudd would be more competant than barry and he is just about as real as barry’s election persona.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JYVAWGBIPKD6KM34635KNVLVGQ Lee

    Drean on.

  • Poacher

    It’s already law and Obama signed it.  $500 million taken straight out of the seniors Medicare.  It’s in the law.  Read it.

  • Anonymous

    The health care reform plan *is* complicated. What’s not complicated is Paul Ryan’s once in a lifetime $15,000 voucher that shoves grandma off the cliff. But it doesn’t bother Ryan. He just drinks his $350 bottles of wine and all the problems of the world just magically disappear.

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