So Fox spends 2 segments going after an entity that solely exists to attack them? MMFA is a joke

media research foundation? never heard of it, who are they?

Media Matters is going down…big time!

Jon Scott is very obedient

cjd ohio 1 said:
media research foundation? never heard of it, who are they?

I believe he meant the “media research center”. The director of media analysis for this organization recently tweeted “New York Has Joined The ‘Sodom And Gomorrah States” in reference to the NY Marriage Vote.

Fokker News said:
I believe he meant the “media research center”. The director of media analysis for this organization recently tweeted “New York Has Joined The ‘Sodom And Gomorrah States” in reference to the NY Marriage Vote.

conservatives will argue that it’s totally different than media matters though.

The IRS is after Media Matters and Color of Change won’t get REPARATIONS like Van Jones wanted!

Fox News and Beck WINS again!

Nationman said:
conservatives will argue that it’s totally different than media matters though.

And they would be right in the sense that the Media Research Center traffic in homophobia while Media Matters doesn’t.

Klavan: Why Do Black People Vote for Democrats?

Klavan: Why Do Black People Vote for Democrats?

Klavan: Why Do Black People Vote for Democrats?

The Democratic party has always been the party of racism, so why do black people vote for Democrats? Today, Andrew Klavan has the terrifying answer.

http://www.breitbart.tv/klavan-why-do-black-people-vote-for-democrats/

Fokker News said:
I believe he meant the “media research center”. The director of media analysis for this organization recently tweeted “New York Has Joined The ‘Sodom And Gomorrah States” in reference to the NY Marriage Vote.

is media research center tax exempt?

cjd ohio 1 said:
is media research center tax exempt?

Hell yes. Here is their tax exempt filing. It is slow to load

http://www.mrc.org/about/990.pdf

Soon the media (doesn’t)matters will be history and it will be another victory for Fox News and also Glenn Beck even though he is not on Fox News anymore because this is one news organization who does not take attacks lying down in fact they strike back and media(doesn’t)matters is no match for the superior power of Fox News. This group of prog lib hacks thought they could get away by smearing the Nation’s only Fair and Balanced news source well look out because you here comes the big guns and using their superior journalism skills Fox News will expose you for the scam that you are of course it is no wonder that they get money from the federal govrnment because they are doing 0-bow-ma Hussein’s bidding every day on their websites. Thank you.

Faux News Watch are really learning what Limbaugh taught them….Attack that which you fear the most.

juan said:
Klavan: Why Do Black People Vote for Democrats? Klavan: Why Do Black People Vote for Democrats? Klavan: Why Do Black People Vote for Democrats?

Not only is this super relevant to this article, but I’m also glad you posted it three times so we could really tell how enthusiastic you are about it! Of COURSE liberals are the racists. It just makes so much sense.

Nationman said:
conservatives will argue that it’s totally different than media matters though.

IOKIYAR

Well, I’m glad FNC is talking about MM and how absurd it is they are a tax exempt organization. Funnyhow mediaite, msnbc, cnn, or any broadcast network never discusses it; they just accept that MM is there to slander fox and dumpster dive on FNC personalities, and CNN and MSNBC have no problem with that at all.

Just think, if the circumstances were reversed, and MM started dumpster diving on Colby,. or Tommy, or any other mediate staffer, you guys would be screaming about how bad and disfunctional they are. the politics of personal destruction – the motto the left lives by.

Fokker News said:
Hell yes. Here is their tax exempt filing. It is slow to load http://www.mrc.org/about/990.pdf

thamk you

thank you

AIO_7 said:
Faux News Watch are really learning what Limbaugh taught them….Attack that which you fear the most.

Is that why MM declared war on FNC? Because they fear people with different opinions?

Are you sure this is the talking point you want to copy/paste?

Anyone with even the slightest background in journalism could understand why Fox News would recieve the vast majority of complaints from a journalism ethics watchdog organization. It’s not bias, it’s reality.

AIO_7 said:
Faux News Watch are really learning what Limbaugh taught them….Attack that which you fear the most.

Fox News and Limbaugh out-smart and out-Alinsky MediaMatters, Obama, and the DEMs!

HehHehHeh

Time to challenge every one of these Left5-Wing Front Groups – including the ACLU, SEIU, NAACP, LaRaza…all the ADVOCATES of Democratic policy & candidates!

Put pressure on your feeble GOP reps if they’re not addressing this issue!!

So now Fox’s opinion shows (who are the majority of MMFA focus) are part of a news agency?

Sounds like FoxNews likes to play the clown nose on close nose off game also.

Cubby said:
Not only is this super relevant to this article, but I’m also glad you posted it three times so we could really tell how enthusiastic you are about it! Of COURSE liberals are the racists. It just makes so much sense.

Thanks and of course Liberals are the racists!

Chris Wallace used a Jon Stewart interview to complain about “attacks” on Fox News. Now FNW uses two segments to do the same thing. Victimized much?

Cubby said:
…a journalism ethics watchdog organization. It’s not bias, it’s reality.

Are you really calling MM an “ethics watchdog organization?” Seriously?

They’re a left-wing advocacy group, dedicated to silencing all opinions which disagree from their own. Their declared “war” by any means necessary against FNC isn’t “ethical,” so if you’re looking at them to critique any kind of “ethics” themselves, you’re making a pretty substantial mistake.

The wise Joe Biden said it’s unpatriotic to dodge taxes .

Of course , Joe likes choo-choos , too .

JoeRemi said:
Chris Wallace used a Jon Stewart interview to complain about “attacks” on Fox News. Now FNW uses two segments to do the same thing. Victimized much?

So you’re saying that FNC isn’t attacked frequently? Are you saying that MM didn’t declare war on FNC? Are you saying that Stewart doesn’t frequently attack FNC? Or are you just saying they shouldn’t talk about it?

Marching orders, one FoxNews personality mentions something, Ailes likes it, not every single program will dedicate on air time this. Right wing state television machine goes on and on

MediaMatters is a “charitable and educational” organization for America because it exposes corrupt journalism that deserves to be held accountable. Every God fearing, freedom loving American should applaud the efforts of MediaMatters.

juan said:
Klavan: Why Do Black People Vote for Democrats?

Klavan: Why Do Black People Vote for Democrats?

Klavan: Why Do Black People Vote for Democrats?

The Democratic party has always been the party of racism, so why do black people vote for Democrats? Today, Andrew Klavan has the terrifying answer.

http://www.breitbart.tv/klavan-why-do-black-people-vote-for-democrats/

Here are some of the racist comments on Breitbart TV:

1. “cause they be given me da free stuff !”

2. “African-Americans always feel they need to be told what to do.
Because African-Americans really do like being told to ride in the back of the bus.
Africans sort of like being Slaves, Slavery is still practiced in parts of Africa.

It is the same reason Muslims stand in line to blow themselves up while attacking innocents and stating they belong to the Religion of Peace.

Africans and Freedom is oxymoronic, just as Muslim and Peace is an oxymoron.”

3. “Blacks vote for other blacks because they have been trained that way since they were kids.

The worst thing a black person could be called is “white”.

Like: “Damn, you actin’ all white. What’s gotten into you, boy?”

And the black guy who just got called ‘white” gets all defensive.

“Who you callin’ ‘white’, boy? You calling me ‘white’, niggah? Come on man, what’s wrong wit you?”

That’s how they talk and think.

And the guilt they feel if they should ever “make it big” in America and become a RICH BLACK PERSON….oh, my….they get called all kinds of names for ‘selling out’.

So sad.”

4. Slave mentality? Lack of education? Lazy? Bad attitude?
The poor me, it’s not fair syndrome?

ALL OF THE ABOVE? ”

5.”U O ME!

U O ME!

U O ME!

U O ME!

U O ME!……WHITEY!!!! ”

6.”pervert progressives have purposely bred blacks to obey their massas, who are white liberals with a few house negroes tossed in for good measure.
Pervert progressives have bred blacks for high illiteracy, strong muscles and a strong dislike of the nuclear family.
They are also taught that without their white pervert progressive massas, they are nothing and can do nothing and can accomplish nothing in life.
When a black student does well in school he is mocked by his peers. He is derided and called “white,” as if being smart is a bad thing for negroes. This is how they have been bred and/or genetically engineered as a race in America by the progressives. Remember that the great doyen of the progressives, Margaret Sanger who Hillary Clinton loves, wanted to have all black babies aborted because they were inferior, according to Sanger. Hitler used some of Sanger’s techniques on the Jews.

This is why when a black conservative like Clarence Thomas or “Godfather” Cain shows up, they must be eliminated using Saul Alinsky’s “Rules For Radicals” to isolate, mock and destroy them by any and all means possible. Recall that Saul Alinsky dedicated his book to Satan. The only thing Saul Alinsky and Jesus have in common – they both believe in and admit to Satan. ”

8.”Oh…maybe because they can’t read, write and/or think for themselves? ”

9. “For the freebies. What else?”

RhapsodyinBlue said:
state television machine goes on and on

MM is the 501c4… thus they are the “state machine”…

WillP said:
Every God fearing, freedom loving American should applaud the efforts of MediaMatters.

then why do they need Statist help?

Cubby said:
Not only is this super relevant to this article, but I’m also glad you posted it three times so we could really tell how enthusiastic you are about it! Of COURSE liberals are the racists. It just makes so much sense.

The bastions of race acceptance is in all the red states… Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, etc. That had to be one of the worst political videos I’ve ever seen, thank god I never visit that site

Alice67 said:
Here are some of the racist comments on Breitbart TV:

Anyone looking for a heaping helping of conservative hypocracy need look no further than the comments section of a right-wing website. It’s especially tasty when the story is about gays or minorities. Ah but yes, it’s the LIBERALS who are the real racists! I almost forgot.

Media Matters is tax exempt? Bwahahahahahahahahahaaha!!!!!

RhapsodyinBlue said:
Marching orders, one FoxNews personality mentions something, Ailes likes it, not every single program will dedicate on air time this. Right wing state television machine goes on and on

You think Fox is run by the state but in fact that MM/NPR etc get our cash from the state to run their operations. The relationship between GE the administration and NBC is the clearest recent example of State media, heck the white house even called morning joe this week to streamline the propaganda machine.

Cubby said:
Anyone looking for a heaping helping of conservative hypocracy need look no further than the comments section of a right-wing website. It’s especially tasty when the story is about gays or minorities. Ah but yes, it’s the LIBERALS who are the real racists! I almost forgot.

Here’s some more racism from Breitbart.

http://www.breitbart.tv/klavan-why-do-black-people-vote-for-democrats/

ImNotBlue said:
So you’re saying that FNC isn’t attacked frequently? Are you saying that MM didn’t declare war on FNC? Are you saying that Stewart doesn’t frequently attack FNC? Or are you just saying they shouldn’t talk about it?

I think using airtime to be defensive about your own network is silly. FNW is supposed to be about exposing “media bias”. All they did today was complain about a leftwing group who doesn’t like them. It was weird.

The lying “journalist” Frances Martel drops another stinky deuce in the yellow journalis toilet bowl that is Mediaite.

Did you guys know that Frances Martel wanted Parliamentary Procedures removed from all election when she was running for office at Haaaavaaad (Harvard). Why? Because it was & is Ms Martel’s humble opinion that the students of Harvard we’re “too stupid to understand what they were”.
Your elitis past will come back to haunt you Ms Martel. You have no place in objective journalism Frances.

skoorbekim said:
then why do they need Statist help?

Well. Just imagine if every charitable organization across the heartland did not receive tax exempt status. The Red Cross would not be able to provide sufficient disaster relief services because they would be forced to hire fewer personnel. Likewise, MediaMatters would be forced to downsize laying off an inestimable amount of employees who would otherwise be employed following the developments at Fox News. So, suffice it to say. It is vitally important for MediaMatters to retain its tax exempt status.

WillP said:
Well. Just imagine if every charitable organization across the heartland did not receive tax exempt status. The Red Cross would not be able to provide sufficient disaster relief services because they would be forced to hire fewer personnel. Likewise, MediaMatters would be forced to downsize laying off an inestimable amount of employees who would otherwise be employed following the developments at Fox News. So, suffice it to say. It is vitally important for MediaMatters to retain its tax exempt status.

How sickening for you to compared the Red Cross to Media Matters.

Worp said:
You think Fox is run by the state but in fact that MM/NPR etc get our cash from the state to run their operations. The relationship between GE the administration and NBC is the clearest recent example of State media, heck the white house even called morning joe this week to streamline the propaganda machine.

Good job interpreting what I said

Idiot

TheRealRoyalQueen said:
The lying “journalist” Frances Martel drops another stinky deuce in the yellow journalis toilet bowl that is Mediaite.

Did you guys know that Frances Martel wanted Parliamentary Procedures removed from all election when she was running for office at Haaaavaaad (Harvard). Why? Because it was & is Ms Martel’s humble opinion that the students of Harvard we’re “too stupid to understand what they were”.
Your elitis past will come back to haunt you Ms Martel. You have no place in objective journalism Frances.

I honestly can’t believe she went to Harvard, I always figured her to be a blogger hack. The vast majority of bloggers are better than this site’s writers… if it weren’t for the video hosting no one would ever visit this right winged stench hole.

Fox News Watch Spends Two Segments Challenging Media Matters’ Tax Status

…like the “YOU LIE!” hussein regime will tax one of its socialist propaganda factories !!!! I can just imagine TAX CHEAT tiny tim geither going after his pal leftist-billionaire Soro’s “media mucksters” right away !!!!!!

The warped lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist ideology demands that taxpayers fund each and every one of the outrageous, wasteful, irresponsible, immoral and offensive ideas they promote. Taxpayers must fund abortions, taxpayers must fund left-wing extremist propaganda radio and tv, taxpayers must fund eco-nut extremism, taxpayers must fund the d-cRAT socialist subsidiary and cash cow called “pubic-sector unions”, taxpayers must fund “wealth and income re-distribution” from hardworking, responsible American citizens to the slugs, slackers, deadbeats, liars, freeloaders, losers, taxpayer-leeches, cheats, ILLEGALS and potheads at the core of the d-cRAT socialist party, and on, and on, and on. The d-cRAT socialists love to tax you to death, then tax your death, and have repeatedly shown that they will raise every tax and impose every fee that they can dream up to get them more money to fund their ideological perversions. But, like lunatic-left socialist d-cRAT TAX CHEATS geithner, rangel, daschle, olbermann, killifer, solis, kirk, mccaskill, sebelius, holder, kerry and millions more, they hate to pay taxes for this waste, and they’ll cheat the government out of every penny they can.

The cancer on America known as lunatic-left d-cRAT socialism MUST BE REMOVED COMPLETELY, TOTALLY.

Alice67 said:
Here are some of the racist comments on Breitbart TV:

You are just another prog lib liar because i went to this website and read the whole article and none of those racial things were said in the essay which proves my point that prog libs are liars and racists and you’re smears against Conservatives will not work this time thank you.

Here are some of the racist comments on Mediate posted by Alice 67:

1. “cause they be given me da free stuff !”

2. “African-Americans always feel they need to be told what to do.
Because African-Americans really do like being told to ride in the back of the bus.
Africans sort of like being Slaves, Slavery is still practiced in parts of Africa.

It is the same reason Muslims stand in line to blow themselves up while attacking innocents and stating they belong to the Religion of Peace.

Africans and Freedom is oxymoronic, just as Muslim and Peace is an oxymoron.”

3. “Blacks vote for other blacks because they have been trained that way since they were kids.

The worst thing a black person could be called is “white”.

Like: “Damn, you actin’ all white. What’s gotten into you, boy?”

And the black guy who just got called ‘white” gets all defensive.

“Who you callin’ ‘white’, boy? You calling me ‘white’, niggah? Come on man, what’s wrong wit you?”

That’s how they talk and think.

And the guilt they feel if they should ever “make it big” in America and become a RICH BLACK PERSON….oh, my….they get called all kinds of names for ’selling out’.

So sad.”

4. Slave mentality? Lack of education? Lazy? Bad attitude?
The poor me, it’s not fair syndrome?

ALL OF THE ABOVE? ”

5.”U O ME!

U O ME!

U O ME!

U O ME!

U O ME!……WHITEY!!!! ”

6.”pervert progressives have purposely bred blacks to obey their massas, who are white liberals with a few house negroes tossed in for good measure.
Pervert progressives have bred blacks for high illiteracy, strong muscles and a strong dislike of the nuclear family.
They are also taught that without their white pervert progressive massas, they are nothing and can do nothing and can accomplish nothing in life.
When a black student does well in school he is mocked by his peers. He is derided and called “white,” as if being smart is a bad thing for negroes. This is how they have been bred and/or genetically engineered as a race in America by the progressives. Remember that the great doyen of the progressives, Margaret Sanger who Hillary Clinton loves, wanted to have all black babies aborted because they were inferior, according to Sanger. Hitler used some of Sanger’s techniques on the Jews.

This is why when a black conservative like Clarence Thomas or “Godfather” Cain shows up, they must be eliminated using Saul Alinsky’s “Rules For Radicals” to isolate, mock and destroy them by any and all means possible. Recall that Saul Alinsky dedicated his book to Satan. The only thing Saul Alinsky and Jesus have in common – they both believe in and admit to Satan. ”

8.”Oh…maybe because they can’t read, write and/or think for themselves? ”

Worp said:
Here are some of the racist comments on Mediate posted by Alice 67:

I don’t get it.

TeaPartyNation said:
…like the “YOU LIE!” hussein regime will tax one of its socialist propaganda factories !!!! I can just imagine TAX CHEAT tiny tim geither going after his pal leftist-billionaire Soro’s “media mucksters” right away !!!!!! The warped lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist ideology demands that taxpayers fund each and every one of the outrageous, wasteful, irresponsible, immoral and offensive ideas they promote. Taxpayers must fund abortions, taxpayers must fund left-wing extremist propaganda radio and tv, taxpayers must fund eco-nut extremism, taxpayers must fund the d-cRAT socialist subsidiary and cash cow called “pubic-sector unions”, taxpayers must fund “wealth and income re-distribution” from hardworking, responsible American citizens to the slugs, slackers, deadbeats, liars, freeloaders, losers, taxpayer-leeches, cheats, ILLEGALS and potheads at the core of the d-cRAT socialist party, and on, and on, and on. The d-cRAT socialists love to tax you to death, then tax your death, and have repeatedly shown that they will raise every tax and impose every fee that they can dream up to get them more money to fund their ideological perversions. But, like lunatic-left socialist d-cRAT TAX CHEATS geithner, rangel, daschle, olbermann, killifer, solis, kirk, mccaskill, sebelius, holder, kerry and millions more, they hate to pay taxes for this waste, and they’ll cheat the government out of every penny they can. The cancer on America known as lunatic-left d-cRAT socialism MUST BE REMOVED COMPLETELY, TOTALLY.

Dude, let me give you some advice. Before you hit the “SUBMIT COMMENT” button take a deep breath, read what you just wrote, and ask yourself, “Does this sound like the ramblings of a crazy person?” If the answer is yes, consider not posting or at the very least, revising your text.

WillP said:
Likewise, MediaMatters would be forced to downsize laying off an inestimable amount of employees

To quote Martha Stewart…”MediaMatters would be forced to downsize laying off an inestimable amount of employees” would be a good thing!

SuburbanPatriot said:
You are just another prog lib liar because i went to this website and read the whole article and none of those racial things were said in the essay which proves my point that prog libs are liars and racists and you’re smears against Conservatives will not work this time thank you.

Did I say they were in “the article”? Not sure what “the article” is since it was a video called “Klavan: Why Do Black People Vote for Democrats?”. I posted some of the comments on the video. I won’t hold out for an apology tho.

WillP said:
The Red Cross

comparing the Red Cross to the Leftist slime at Media Matters… Yikes!

read Orwell’s 1984 or Huxely’s Brave New World or Koesler’s Darkness at Noon…

RhapsodyinBlue said:
Marching orders, one FoxNews personality mentions something, Ailes likes it, not every single program will dedicate on air time this. Right wing state television machine goes on and on

Does any of that make sense to you?

So you think if a host likes it, and Ailes likes it, not everyone has to talk about it on the network… and that’s a problem? Isn’t that a good thing?

And how is FNC “right wing state television?” What does “the state have to do with it? This isn’t PBS we’re talking about.

WillP said:
MediaMatters is a “charitable and educational” organization for America because it exposes corrupt journalism that deserves to be held accountable. Every God fearing, freedom loving American should applaud the efforts of MediaMatters.

Except that’s not the truth, is it? They only attack journalists who don’t tow the left-wing line. They’re not out to “hold journalism accountable,” they’re out to stop right-wing opinions. Do you not recognize or believe this… or do you just think you can fool other people?

Cubby said:
Anyone looking for a heaping helping of conservative hypocracy need look no further than the comments section of a right-wing website. It’s especially tasty when the story is about gays or minorities. Ah but yes, it’s the LIBERALS who are the real racists! I almost forgot.

You do realize we can do the same for the left-wing sites, right? Try looking up comments on Michelle Malkin, or any black Republican candidate. You want racism, it doesn’t take too much effort to find. It’s not a left-right thing… there are morons, idiots, and racists on both sides.

JoeRemi said:
I think using airtime to be defensive about your own network is silly. FNW is supposed to be about exposing “media bias”. All they did today was complain about a leftwing group who doesn’t like them. It was weird.

Since MM has influence at a number of media outlets, and is apparently a “big player” (according to some of the above posts) in the media-watchdog game, why wouldn’t NewsWatch talk about them? I understand it’s awkward to talk about their parent network… but it doesn’t make the story any less relevant.

WillP said:
Likewise, MediaMatters would be forced to downsize laying off an inestimable amount of employees who would otherwise be employed following the developments at Fox News. So, suffice it to say. It is vitally important for MediaMatters to retain its tax exempt status.

So the government shouldn’t stop giving handouts to any company which would have to lay off workers as a result? Does that count for big business too… the one’s the left always screams gets too many deductions? Would you argue that they need to keept those, because if they don’t, people might lose their jobs?

It is “vitally important” that they retain their TE status… but only to them. They’re not a charity, they’re a political group which has openly declared “war” on a television station. The government should not be in the business of employing a group which has a stated goal of attacking a news organization on the grounds of political ideology.

Alice67 said:
Did I say they were in “the article”? Not sure what “the article” is since it was a video called “Klavan: Why Do Black People Vote for Democrats?”. I posted some of the comments on the video. I won’t hold out for an apology tho.

I like how our posts about these racist comments are getting thumbs down. Sorry guys, they exist! And they’re appalling! And they were written by right-wing Brietbart fans! You just can’t make this stuff up, folks. But of course none of this matters to people who hold ideology over common decency, because liberals are the racists.

You lefties should be glad….George Sorus will now have to pay taxes on the money he donates to MM!

This is a good thing…the government needs the money!

Cubby said:
I don’t get it.

It’s irrelevant and that’s my point. Kalvan puts together a solid piece filled with indisputable facts about the history of racism in Americana and Alice responds by posting comments to that video, a mindless response to a powerful reality. I used the same brush to ridicule the arbitrary irrelevance of the approach. Alice’s is pushing hate.
The truth is that modern day Progressivism has been built on a history of racism but as the creators of propaganda they have managed to misinform to create a base that feeds off of hate.

ImNotBlue said:
Does any of that make sense to you?

So you think if a host likes it, and Ailes likes it, not everyone has to talk about it on the network… and that’s a problem? Isn’t that a good thing?

It’s a systematic plot lines driven by one person who sees a way of getting rid of an opponent who is largely just fact checking FoxNews while FoxNews usually replies with ad hominem attacks instead of actual thoughtful replies. People are given marching orders on FoxNews, free will does not exist. On one show Bill O’Reilly declared he didn’t think there was a problem with offering people an insurance directly from the government (the public option) and on his very next show he dedicated over half of it to denouncing the public option. This is what you get your news from, FoxNews is ran EXACTLY like state run televisions in communist countries like China and North Korea.

The Left is always demanding something from others…

Here we have Group A [the left] demanding that Group B [the state] gives to Group C [media matters]…

Cubby said:
I like how our posts about these racist comments are getting thumbs down. Sorry guys, they exist! And they’re appalling! And they were written by right-wing Brietbart fans! You just can’t make this stuff up, folks. But of course none of this matters to people who hold ideology over common decency, because liberals are the racists.

How about the content of Kalvan’s piece? That you have co comment on!

Posters are anon, re-posting hate filled postings either pushes hate or mocks re-posting. If you want to challenge them then do so directly.

RhapsodyinBlue said: It’s a systematic plot lines driven by one person who sees a way of getting rid of an opponent who is largely just fact checking FoxNews while FoxNews usually replies with ad hominem attacks instead of actual thoughtful replies. People are given marching orders on FoxNews, free will does not exist. On one show Bill O’Reilly declared he didn’t think there was a problem with offering people an insurance directly from the government (the public option) and on his very next show he dedicated over half of it to denouncing the public option. This is what you get your news from, FoxNews is ran EXACTLY like state run televisions in communist countries like China and North Korea.

I’m going to ignore how wrong you statement is, because I believe it’s pretty obvious. Anyone who has watch FNC for more than 3 minutes (and not simply gotten their information from MM or another far-left source) know’s it’s not true, and that very often the hosts do not agree with each other.

What I’m going wonder about is your statement that FNC is run like communism. So you believe that a company isn’t allowed to tell it’s employees what to do? If Ailes is the boss, why wouldn’t he be able to dictate to his employees what actions they’re supposed to take? Isn’t that just business?

And how does this differ from any of the other networks? Remember when Donny Deutsch said something negative about Keith Olbermann on MSNBC? Keith made a phone call, and Donny was off the network for weeks as punishment! Did you complain then?

Worp said:
It’s irrelevant.

A slight edit: Kalvan puts together a solid piece filled with indisputable facts and BRIETBART READERS respond by posting RACIST comments to that video. I don’t see how that is possibly irrelevant. It is a classic example of the horrifying hypocracy that you can find in the comments section of any right-wing website, particularly when it comes to issues of race or sexuality. Read the comments on Brietbart or FoxNation and tell me who feeds off of hate.

RhapsodyinBlue said:
The bastions of race acceptance is in all the red states… Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, etc. That had to be one of the worst political videos I’ve ever seen, thank god I never visit that site

You never visited the places you claim to know are racists. I couldn’t make a cleaner demonstration of your bigotry if I tried. You believe what you are told.

Get deprogrammed with the truth
http://www.breitbart.tv/klavan-why-do-black-people-vote-for-democrats/

Cubby said:
A slight edit: Kalvan puts together a solid piece filled with indisputable facts and BRIETBART READERS respond by posting RACIST comments to that video. I don’t see how that is possibly irrelevant. It is a classic example of the horrifying hypocracy that you can find in the comments section of any right-wing website, particularly when it comes to issues of race or sexuality. Read the comments on Brietbart or FoxNation and tell me who feeds off of hate.

Two points:

One, are you sure they’re really Breitbart readers, and not fake bloggers, attempting to make arguments for left-wing bloggers?

Two, do you really think this is unique to right-wing sites? You can’t really be that unaware.

Worp said:
It’s irrelevant and that’s my point. Kalvan puts together a solid piece filled with indisputable facts about the history of racism in Americana and Alice responds by posting comments to that video, a mindless response to a powerful reality. I used the same brush to ridicule the arbitrary irrelevance of the approach. Alice’s is pushing hate.
The truth is that modern day Progressivism has been built on a history of racism but as the creators of propaganda they have managed to misinform to create a base that feeds off of hate.

Guess the irony was lost on you. A right-wing video on left-wing racism is full of right-wing racist remarks.

JoeRemi said:
I think using airtime to be defensive about your own network is silly. FNW is supposed to be about exposing “media bias”. All they did today was complain about a leftwing group who doesn’t like them. It was weird.

How about using airtime to attack another network ? That’s all MSNBC does or seems to do anyway. FOX ignores them and Media Matters most of the time .

You have an organization who’s only goal is to try and get you off the air and some think it’s a big shock to see the people that work there fight back.

And now they have a very good reason …… tax-exempt status ?

” the differential between how many MMFA stories were on Fox vs. every other network: 2,670 on Fox this year, 66 on CNN, and 48 on MSNBC ”

That’s a joke .

And I bet one of those 48 stories from MSNBC was for a ” dick ” comment.

sponge bob said:
How about using airtime to attack another network ? That’s all MSNBC does or seems to do anyway. FOX ignores them and Media Matters most of the time .

You have an organization who’s only goal is to try and get you off the air and some think it’s a big shock to see the people that work there fight back.

And now they have a very good reason …… tax-exempt status ?

” the differential between how many MMFA stories were on Fox vs. every other network: 2,670 on Fox this year, 66 on CNN, and 48 on MSNBC ”

That’s a joke .

And I bet one of those 48 stories from MSNBC was for a ” dick ” comment.

Or maybe Fox has made 2,670 statements that are factually incorrect compared to 66 on CNN and 48 on MSNBC.

ImNotBlue said:
Two points: One, are you sure they’re really Breitbart readers, and not fake bloggers, attempting to make arguments for left-wing bloggers? Two, do you really think this is unique to right-wing sites? You can’t really be that unaware.

One – There can’t be that many trolls. Hell, the “they be givin me the free stuff” guy has two responses enthusiastically agreeing with him. The Klavan article alone has at least fifteen horribly offensive and racist comments (and plenty of supportive replies) written by different users. To assume that these comments (and the countless others I’ve read) were done by an army of “fake bloggers” is kind of paranoid. The whole “undercover liberals trying to make conservatives look bad” thing is a dog that just won’t hunt. You seem to be infinitely more reasonable than the rest of the “crazy old man shouting on a street corner” commenters around here – surely you must find it a bit of a weak argument.

Two – As a frequent reader of blogs of all political stripes, I have to disagree. Yes, there are occasionally offensive comments posted on liberal blogs, particularly Wonkette, but nowhere is it as consistantly ugly, ignorant, and hateful as it is on right-wing blogs. Again, I encourage anyone to regularly read the comments on Breitbart or FoxNation. It is truly chilling.

sponge bob said:
48 on MSNBC

All 48 had something to do with something a republican said while on msnbc. msnbc was only used as a strawman. media matters will end up losing their tax exempt status when this is all said and done. ;)

Cubby said:
A slight edit: Kalvan puts together a solid piece filled with indisputable facts and BRIETBART READERS respond by posting RACIST comments to that video. I don’t see how that is possibly irrelevant. It is a classic example of the horrifying hypocracy that you can find in the comments section of any right-wing website, particularly when it comes to issues of race or sexuality. Read the comments on Brietbart or FoxNation and tell me who feeds off of hate.

As have MEDIAITE READERS. No offense to the posters here or anywhere but the only relevancy of our posts is to ourselves and those who find our ideas compelling. So re-posting hate only has relevancy to haters. Until you put out your true identity with the ability to be held accountable for your words, it’s IRRELEVANT.

Klavan is responsible for his words making him relevant and even in your anonymity you have no response because he is presenting facts that you refuse to accept. Democrats are the party of KKK then Progressives pick up the hate of racism and for eugenics.

Alice67 said:
Or maybe Fox has made 2,670 statements that are factually incorrect compared to 66 on CNN and 48 on MSNBC.

Hahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahaahahhahaahahahahahhahahahahahaha

Worp said:
Klavan is responsible for his words making him relevant and even in your anonymity you have no response because he is presenting facts that you refuse to accept. Democrats are the party of KKK then Progressives pick up the hate of racism and for eugenics.

To tell you the truth, I agree with some of what Klavan says and I feel that affirmative action is misguided and yes, even a bit racist. Unlike you, I am not totally blinded by ideology and blind partisanship.

My point is – look at those racist comments, conservatives. Look at the comments on other right-wing sites. That is your base, period. Not a fantasy army of undercover liberals, not isolated nuts. Do you like what you see?

Alice67 said:
Or maybe Fox has made 2,670 statements that are factually incorrect compared to 66 on CNN and 48 on MSNBC.

No, that can’t possibly be it.

Alice67 said:
Guess the irony was lost on you. A right-wing video on left-wing racism is full of right-wing racist remarks.

What evidence do you have about these posters identities? I’m posting on a left wing site. There is no irony in your post, it just a hate filled rant. It promotes hate to haters.
Please disprove any of Klavan’s assertions. If you can.

Cubby said:
One – There can’t be that many trolls. Hell, the “they be givin me the free stuff” guy has two responses enthusiastically agreeing with him. The Klavan article alone has at least fifteen horribly offensive and racist comments (and plenty of supportive replies) written by different users. To assume that these comments (and the countless others I’ve read) were done by an army of “fake bloggers” is kind of paranoid. The whole “undercover liberals trying to make conservatives look bad” thing is a dog that just won’t hunt. You seem to be infinitely more reasonable than the rest of the “crazy old man shouting on a street corner” commenters around here – surely you must find it a bit of a weak argument.

Oh, I’d be surprised if they were all “fake” bloggers. But, that’s not to say that there aren’t some. Heck, we’ve seen that here, from both sides.

But my point was, how do you know they’re right-wingers? You speak with such certainty… but are you really sure?

Two – As a frequent reader of blogs of all political stripes, I have to disagree. Yes, there are occasionally offensive comments posted on liberal blogs, particularly Wonkette, but nowhere is it as consistantly ugly, ignorant, and hateful as it is on right-wing blogs. Again, I encourage anyone to regularly read the comments on Breitbart or FoxNation. It is truly chilling.

So the comments about Michelle Malkin and her ethnicity, are to be ignored? I’m sorry, but I refuse to believe that the left is any better than the right. There are awful people of both stripes, it’s only what you choose to see… or for that matter, not to see.

Okay, let’s compare….Fox devotes 1% of its air time questioning Media Matters. Media Matters devotes close to 100% of its energy slinging mud at Fox News. I’m not sure why the former warrants a story, while the latter doesn’t.

Cubby said:
Hell, the “they be givin me the free stuff” guy has two responses enthusiastically agreeing with him.

+43 at this point.

Well ok….cool…..

Let’s take the tax exempt away from MM…because Soros”the Devil” gave them money….
Cool with me man…as long as we do the same with …..

Media Research Center – A right-wing group that runs Cybercast News Service (CNSNews.com), a conservative news site; NewsBusters.org, a blog devoted to media criticism; the Business & Media Institute, which promotes conservative economic principles; and the Culture and Media Institute, which promotes traditional values in the media. They are funded by the Scaife family, the Koch brothers, Coors, Exxon Mobil, and DeVos (Amway).

Info you need….

Address:325 S. Patrick Street
Alexandria, VA 22314
Federal Employee Identification Number: 54-1429009

Here is the Complaint Form link: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f13909.pdf

Let’s make it all fair shall we?

We all like fair right?

Right….

Cubby said:
To tell you the truth, I agree with some of what Klavan says and I feel that affirmative action is misguided and yes, even a bit racist. Unlike you, I am not totally blinded by ideology and blind partisanship. My point is – look at those racist comments, conservatives. Look at the comments on other right-wing sites. That is your base, period. Not a fantasy army of undercover liberals, not isolated nuts. Do you like what you see?

I am of the mind that all are created. When I see something objectionable I often respond. Some of what is objectionable in your current post;
I have no base as I am not running for anything. Your assertion that I have a base and that base is raciest is false.
You are making assertions about people you don’t know. That is a simple fact. I for example am posting on a left site, by your logic you could repost my comments and assert I am a leftist. That assertion would be false as is your assertion that these racists are conservatives.
Regarding what I see…I see haters attacking haters and its abhorrent.

Jaurez said:
All 48 had something to do with something a republican said while on msnbc. msnbc was only used as a strawman. media matters will end up losing their tax exempt status when this is all said and done. ;)

“Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.”

Alice67 said:
“Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.”

because thats what it says on their web site right .lol

Media Matters needs to lose their tax exepmt status ASAP unless Liberals are prepared to give the same status to Big Government for their “educational” purposes too.

Okay, Frances, Fox devoted TWO segments to Media Matters. For comparison purposes, why not run an article on how many times MSNBC has devoted segments to attacking Fox News.

5,000 times?
10,0000 times?
20,000 times?
Maybe more?

I think you will find that MSNBC has run more than 2 segments on Fox News every day during this century. Sometime more than 2 segments on Fox in a given hour.

Maybe that would make a good article here? Imagine, a whole network devoted to smearing another network? Gotta be a story there somewhere…..

Alice67 said:
+43 at this point.

Again, people giving you “thumbs down” for pointing out a simple fact. Are they showing their displeasure with the 43 people who endorsed a racist comment (surely undercover liberals, all of them), or are they mad at you for pointing it out? Hmm I wonder.

Cubby said:
Again, people giving you “thumbs down” for pointing out a simple fact. Are they showing their displeasure with the 43 people who endorsed a racist comment (surely undercover liberals, all of them), or are they mad at you for pointing it out? Hmm I wonder.

just a question. do people have a right in private life to be racist?

Worp said:
What evidence do you have about these posters identities? I’m posting on a left wing site. There is no irony in your post, it just a hate filled rant. It promotes hate to haters.
Please disprove any of Klavan’s assertions. If you can.

Exposing hate does not equate with promoting hate. The only way to eradicate hate is by shining a light on it. I’m not concerned with whether it makes people uncomfortable or not. I’m concerned that it be exposed.

You are also quite wrong if you think Mediaite is a left-wing site.

WillP said:
MediaMatters is a “charitable and educational” organization for America because it exposes corrupt journalism that deserves to be held accountable. Every God fearing, freedom loving American should applaud the efforts of MediaMatters.

I think I just threw up in my mouth.

Cubby said:
Again, people giving you “thumbs down” for pointing out a simple fact. Are they showing their displeasure with the 43 people who endorsed a racist comment (surely undercover liberals, all of them), or are they mad at you for pointing it out? Hmm I wonder.

well do people have a right to be bigoted in their private life?

Tax payers shouldn’t be forced to pay for political speech. Progressives invented propaganda (charles bernays) and MM executes propaganda poorly. MM should subsist on Soros cash not mine and yours.

cjd ohio 1 said:
well do people have a right to be bigoted in their private life?

not at all dude….by all means be a bigot please….

BoomShakalaka said:
not at all dude….by all means be a bigot please….

took both sides huh lol

BoomShakalaka said:
not at all dude….by all means be a bigot please….

too afraid to answer the question huh

Alice67 said:
Exposing hate does not equate with promoting hate. The only way to eradicate hate is by shining a light on it. I’m not concerned with whether it makes people uncomfortable or not. I’m concerned that it be exposed. You are also quite wrong if you think Mediaite is a left-wing site.

When you ascribe an ideology to anon haters you are trafficking in lies and promoting hate. Disputing the left leaning characteristics of this site only shows that you understand that statements like that are subjective proving that you willfully traffic in lies and hate.

Note your support by thumbs up and down. Mostly you have 0 thumbs up however you have tons of postings. Mostly people don’t believe you and I tend to agree.

Cubby said:
Again, people giving you “thumbs down” for pointing out a simple fact.

That’s not why they give me a thumbs down. They do it because I exist. :)

cjd ohio 1 said:
too afraid to answer the question huh

well actually my answer might have been ironic but it was still pretty clear no?
by all means be a bigot please…
I thought it was pretty clear…what do you think?

@ Alice

Is that why you give people thumbs down?

BoomShakalaka said:
well actually my answer might have been ironic but it was still pretty clear no?by all means be a bigot please…I thought it was pretty clear…what do you think?

do people have the right? you answered not at all, then said by all means. its a simple question do people have a right to be bigoted in their private lives?

Worp said:
When you ascribe an ideology to anon haters you are trafficking in lies and promoting hate. Disputing the left leaning characteristics of this site only shows that you understand that statements like that are subjective proving that you willfully traffic in lies and hate.

Note your support by thumbs up and down. Mostly you have 0 thumbs up however you have tons of postings. Mostly people don’t believe you and I tend to agree.

Some of the bloggers here are righties some are lefties. The site itself has no ideology either way. Almost all the bloggers do lean to the right however.

I have no concern for the thumbs up or down. This isn’t a high school popularity contest.

cjd ohio 1 said:
do people have the right? you answered not at all, then said by all means. its a simple question do people have a right to be bigoted in their private lives?

are you stupid dude?
course you have the right to your opinions in your private life…
have fun with that…

ImNotBlue said:
@ Alice

Is that why you give people thumbs down?

I always give a thumbs up or down so I know where I’ve left off. I don’t often agree with the posts coming from the right, but when I do I give it a thumbs up. When I don’t agree with someone on the left I’ll give it a thumbs down. How about you?

Cubby said:
Again, people giving you “thumbs down” for pointing out a simple fact. Are they showing their displeasure with the 43 people who endorsed a racist comment (surely undercover liberals, all of them), or are they mad at you for pointing it out? Hmm I wonder.

Not at all. You are getting the Thumbs Down, because your argument is specious; your Point, pointless. Because your argument is not an argument at all, but an attempt to divert the argument…the rhetorical diversion is not working, and so you fail.

The question is not about how those commenting on Media Matters behave. The question is about the Acts of Media Matters itself.

haha Fox is feeling the heat. Roger Ailes has ordered the hit.

Cubby said:
Again, people giving you “thumbs down” for pointing out a simple fact. Are they showing their displeasure with the 43 people who endorsed a racist comment (surely undercover liberals, all of them), or are they mad at you for pointing it out? Hmm I wonder.

The reason you both are getting thumbs down is because people on this site find your argument false. You call them racists but the fact is it is you who deals in race baiting hate.

BoomShakalaka said:
are you stupid dude?course you have the right to your opinions in your private life…have fun with that…

just asked a question, my point is their will always be bigoted people, what ever the reason

cjd ohio 1 said:
do people have the right? you answered not at all, then said by all means. its a simple question do people have a right to be bigoted in their private lives?

BoomShakalaka said:
are you stupid dude?
course you have the right to your opinions in your private life…
have fun with that…

Boommoronalaka……

If you want to see some nasty racism just mention you are a black conservative to a group of Liberals (either black or white). If they are black they usually call you an Uncle Tom and then threaten to kill you. If they are white they accuse you of having Stockholm Syndrom because they just can’t wrap their minds around a black not voting Democrat.

Alice67 said:
That’s not why they give me a thumbs down. They do it because I exist. :)

Solipsist much?

2012freedom said:
If you want to see some nasty racism just mention you are a black conservative to a group of Liberals (either black or white). If they are black they usually call you an Uncle Tom and then threaten to kill you. If they are white they accuse you of having Stockholm Syndrom because they just can’t wrap their minds around a black not voting Democrat.

Heck Jon Stewart will even race bait in plain sight…and the mob roared.

When are those morons at Fux going to learn?
And who is going to be fired for this lie?

SUBSIDIZED ATTACKS ON FOX NEWS

According to those idiots, Media Matters receives SUBSIDIES?

Worp said:
race bait

Look, I know it’s one of the favorites in the right’s talking point glossary, but in the words of Inigo Montoya, “This word – I do not think it means what you think it means”.

Cubby said:
Look, I know it’s one of the favorites in the right’s talking point glossary, but in the words of Inigo Montoya, “This word – I do not think it means what you think it means”.

That’s Inconceivable.
Race Baiting Definition;
Race baiting is the use of racially derisive language, actions or other forms of communication, to anger, intimidate or incite a person or groups of people, or to make those persons behave in ways that are inimical, and often harmful to their personal or group interests. See Jon Stewart’s righting staff.

Time to pick up Fireworks, asta.

Cubby said:
Look, I know it’s one of the favorites in the right’s talking point glossary, but in the words of Inigo Montoya, “This word – I do not think it means what you think it means”.

That is so funny. I say that often about Liberals and “teabagger.” After all, if you are not a teabagger than you are by default, a teaBAGGIE. Ewwww!!!!! Can you say, “Schwetty Bawls?”

Alice67 said:
Some of the bloggers here are righties some are lefties. The site itself has no ideology either way. Almost all the bloggers do lean to the right however. I have no concern for the thumbs up or down. This isn’t a high school popularity contest.

Does anyone who writes for this site, reside politically on the right? Not by my count.

Alice67 said:
I always give a thumbs up or down so I know where I’ve left off. I don’t often agree with the posts coming from the right, but when I do I give it a thumbs up. When I don’t agree with someone on the left I’ll give it a thumbs down. How about you?

Thumbs up for a good point, or a well made argument… thumbs down for personal attack, or something stupid.

But I agree, they’re no real measure of anything significant.

ImNotBlue said:
Does anyone who writes for this site, reside politically on the right? Not by my count.

Thumbs up for a good point, or a well made argument… thumbs down for personal attack, or something stupid.

But I agree, they’re no real measure of anything significant.

You got a thumbs up, tho we don’t agree on the political leanings of the bloggers here.

cjd ohio 1 said:
just asked a question, my point is their will always be bigoted people, what ever the reason

You’re right about that.

Alice67 said:
Or maybe Fox has made 2,670 statements that are factually incorrect compared to 66 on CNN and 48 on MSNBC.

I’m sure not even you are dumb enough to believe that.

It appears that Fox News is not ready to take Media Matters’ “victory lap” over Glenn Beck’s departure this week lying down.

That’s rather astute, Frances. Fox has been hammering Media Mutters hard, all week. But I had not connected it to the MM “victory lap” which is the absolute dumbest victory lap ever. (Beck keeps saying they’ll be praying for the days when he was confined to Fox studio at 5:00. He’s not kidding.)

If someone at Fox decided to nuke MM at this particular moment because of Beck’s departure, that would be very much in keeping with the tone of their response to CNN. Which is to say that it’s really, really funny because they’re right.

After reading this pile of bovine scat laid by the lying Frances Martel, one comes to the conclusions that Ms Martel is fishing for a job at Media Matters. Frances would fit in well with that pack of lying animals.

Well ok….cool…..

Let’s take the tax exempt away from MM…because Soros”the Devil” gave them money….
Cool with me man…as long as we do the same with …..

Media Research Center – A right-wing group that runs Cybercast News Service (CNSNews.com), a conservative news site; NewsBusters.org, a blog devoted to media criticism; the Business & Media Institute, which promotes conservative economic principles; and the Culture and Media Institute, which promotes traditional values in the media. They are funded by the Scaife family, the Koch brothers, Coors, Exxon Mobil, and DeVos (Amway).

Info you need….

Address:325 S. Patrick Street
Alexandria, VA 22314
Federal Employee Identification Number: 54-1429009

Here is the Complaint Form link: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f13909.pdf

Let’s make it all fair shall we?

We all like fair right?

Right….

2012freedom said:
If you want to see some nasty racism just mention you are a black conservative to a group of Liberals (either black or white). If they are black they usually call you an Uncle Tom and then threaten to kill you. If they are white they accuse you of having Stockholm Syndrom because they just can’t wrap their minds around a black not voting Democrat.

Obama should be questioned about his racism from sitting in this church for 20 years!

Speaking of racism:

‘Whites Are Liars’ — Audacity of Racism: Obama’s 20-Year Mentor Rev. Wright Tells Church Youth All Whites Are Liars…Over and Over in a Long Sound Bite

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/whites-are-liars-audacity-of-racism-obamas-20-year-mentor-rev-wright-tells-church-youth-all-whites-are-liars-over-and-over-in-a-long-sound-bite-2/

boomshaklicka, those sites you listed don’t devote their life to putting hits out on a news channel. See the diff? Now, faiz wants you back in your cage. ;)

juan said:
Obama should be questioned about his racism from sitting in this church for 20 years!

Speaking of racism:

‘Whites Are Liars’ — Audacity of Racism: Obama’s 20-Year Mentor Rev. Wright Tells Church Youth All Whites Are Liars…Over and Over in a Long Sound Bite

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/whites-are-liars-audacity-of-racism-obamas-20-year-mentor-rev-wright-tells-church-youth-all-whites-are-liars-over-and-over-in-a-long-sound-bite-2/

reverend wright could stand in for Jon Stewart and his audience wouldn’t know the difference.

FOX would have nothing to worry about if they would just give out the facts and not make stuff up.

Yoda002 said:
not make stuff up.

List, please.

Yoda002 said:
FOX would have nothing to worry about if they would just give out the facts and not make stuff up.

Except that’s not true… on both counts really. Even if they were 100% factual, MM would still complain just so long as they didn’t tow the left-wing line. And FNC doesn’t simply “make stuff up,” they just don’t stick to MM predetermined script of acceptable speech.

BoomShakalaka said:
Well ok….cool…..

Let’s take the tax exempt away from MM…because Soros”the Devil” gave them money….
Cool with me man…as long as we do the same with …..

Media Research Center – A right-wing group that runs Cybercast News Service (CNSNews.com), a conservative news site; NewsBusters.org, a blog devoted to media criticism; the Business & Media Institute, which promotes conservative economic principles; and the Culture and Media Institute, which promotes traditional values in the media. They are funded by the Scaife family, the Koch brothers, Coors, Exxon Mobil, and DeVos (Amway).

Info you need….

Address:325 S. Patrick Street
Alexandria, VA 22314
Federal Employee Identification Number: 54-1429009

Here is the Complaint Form link: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f13909.pdf

Let’s make it all fair shall we?

We all like fair right?

Right….

Booga booga! Take ‘em down! Good luck with that.

Jaurez said:
boomshaklicka, those sites you listed don’t devote their life to putting hits out on a news channel. See the diff? Now, faiz wants you back in your cage. ;)

no way….not going back in the cage…..

Bummer, I was really hoping yodler was going to have a big giant list for us. :(

ImNotBlue said:
Except that’s not true… on both counts really. Even if they were 100% factual, MM would still complain just so long as they didn’t tow the left-wing line. And FNC doesn’t simply “make stuff up,” they just don’t stick to MM predetermined script of acceptable speech.

They make up crap all the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn7_8QL2weQ&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
I’m sure not even you are dumb enough to believe that.

Yes he is.

ImNotBlue said:
Does anyone who writes for this site, reside politically on the right? Not by my count.

Thumbs up for a good point, or a well made argument… thumbs down for personal attack, or something stupid.

But I agree, they’re no real measure of anything significant.

Alice67 said:
You got a thumbs up, tho we don’t agree on the political leanings of the bloggers here.

Am I seeing love in bloom?……Don’t go over there ImNotBlue…..STAY AWAY!!

AAAAAAAHHH, the cons…always playing the victim…Oh, wait, don’t they make that accusation?

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Yoda002 said:
They make up crap all the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn7_8QL2weQ&NR=1&feature=fvwp

and beat the drum for phony controversy

Typical Fox News Watch segment….

3 conservatives and 1 conservative apologist blindly pointing fingers at the Left while the one liberal attempts to examine the issue fairly from both sides.

I read the news and i understand nothing about America

We need to cut Media Matters’ Dick off.

alice69er, how do you fell about obamas old racist church ran by rev wright?

typical progressive argument…”look over there!”

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Your FOX News.

AmericaSucks said:
Sad and desperate. Sadly desperate. Desperately sad.

Your FOX News.

Fact: No not desperate. Just another tax free BS atack dog for D-baggers going off the air soon. D-baggers don’t pay taxes and want everything free to them at the cost too others.

It’s a Soros’-funded Left-Wing Attack Squadron – Is it Denial or Delusion with you lefties, that you’re unable to reason this out?

Hahaha…Media Matters thought they could run around with a selective baseball bat and no one would hit back. Limp-wristed them. They thought they ‘got rid’ of Beck in the same way that Obamo went in and killed bin Laden with his bare hands. Bunch of pansies.

Alice67 said:
You want to talk about challenging tax payer status. How about this? Govt Subsided Religion: Liberty University Gets $445 Million From Taxpayers Last Yearhttp://www.politicususa.com/en/liberty-tax-money “Liberty University is unapologetic about their intentions and they boast about their mission with a promise to students to provide an “action-oriented curriculum dedicated to world evangelism and repudiation of political correctness.” If there is any misunderstanding exactly what they mean, the website lays out that they provide, “A strong commitment to political conservatism, total rejection of socialism, and firm support for America’s economic system of free enterprise.”

Politics has been endemic to black churches for decades, so what’s your point?

ChrisNH said:
Hahaha…Media Matters thought they could run around with a selective baseball bat and no one would hit back. Limp-wristed them. They thought they ‘got rid’ of Beck in the same way that Obamo went in and killed bin Laden with his bare hands. Bunch of pansies.

Clown, why do you think Fux gets the brunt of Media Matters’s criticism?

- Because NOBODY ELSE spews as many wingnut lies as Fux does, under the pretense of “news” day after day after day after day.

Skippy said:
Clown, why do you think Fux gets the brunt of Media Matters’s criticism?

Because they’re killing the progressive message, and Mr. Soros doesn’t like that. And speaking of spewing lies, they’ve got a long way to go to catch up to you, freak.

You can ALWAYS tell what a proggy is up to by what they’re accusing someone else of.

Worp said:
reverend wright could stand in for Jon Stewart and his audience wouldn’t know the difference.

They’d just think Jon was doing his Amos and Andy voice again.

This is something I feel very passionate about. Just imagine if every charitable organization across the heartland did not receive tax exempt status. Our society would fall apart in a myriad of ways that we could not imagine.The Red Cross would not be able to provide sufficient disaster relief services because they would be forced to hire fewer personnel. Likewise, MediaMatters would be forced to downsize laying off an inestimable amount of employees who would otherwise be employed following the developments at Fox News. So, suffice it to say. It is vitally important for the welfare of journalism in America that MediaMatters retain its tax exempt status.

So just pay your tax , Georgie , like a good liitle former Nazi collaborator .

Doesn’t anyone cover on the weekends here, updating the site with new threads?

I can understand not hiring now Dan, what with Obama’s war on prosperity, an all; but if money is the concern, why not just raise the ad rates on all those creepy-creature pop-ups from msnbc? lol

Just because they’re on the extreme far left, that shouldn’t exempt Media Matters from paying taxes. In fact, for being such jerks, they should have to pay a penalty.

BFD said:
Typical Fox News Watch segment….
3 conservatives and 1 conservative apologist blindly pointing fingers at the Left while the one liberal attempts to examine the issue fairly from both sides.

According to Morning Joe, when the WH told them to book more Democrats who supported the WH positions, Joe said they were already 10 to 1 (Democrats to Conservatives.)

Any you complain about 3 to 1 – Give me a break! Most of Fox programming is 1 to 1, but then again, O’Reilly offsets that when he will take on 2 Progressives at one time…..so it even’s out.

10 to 1!

1..2..3..4..5..6..7..8..9..10 to 1 Got it?

Tax exempt should only go to eligible organizations. MM needs to be removed, and the IRS needs to review all these orgs. How many are evading taxes like this? That’s lost revenues…. I think this opens up a bigger issue, so all news orgs should be investigating…. I’m sure there’s conservative versions if the NY Times etc wants to protect those it likes …

IRS fraud is tax fraud.

If there is a “right-wing” millionaire out there that would like someone to destroy Media Matters, I am available.
I will take down that group in less than a year. It is not hard to contact me. I use my REAL name here and I have destroyed liberals in the past.

WillP said:
This is something I feel very passionate about. Just imagine if every charitable organization across the heartland did not receive tax exempt status. Our society would fall apart in a myriad of ways that we could not imagine.The Red Cross would not be able to provide sufficient disaster relief services because they would be forced to hire fewer personnel. Likewise, MediaMatters would be forced to downsize laying off an inestimable amount of employees who would otherwise be employed following the developments at Fox News. So, suffice it to say. It is vitally important for the welfare of journalism in America that MediaMatters retain its tax exempt status.

Awww, dont be scared; No need to start a little soros-nutter Fear parade. The Red Cross is safe, because the Red Cross really Is a Charity…MediaMatters tho, is not a charity, and it never was.

I know some people actually support Glenn Beck. Maybe there are even a few supporters who are joining him this summer in his rally to restore courage. Nevertheless, Mediamatters has done extensive coverage of his show. Any viewer of Glenn Beck should see for themselves the work of MediaMatters. Maybe they learn something new or take away a different, new impression of him.
MediaMatters should be commended for their hard work and dedication in covering Glenn Beck over the last 2.5 years. I know they have people working around the clock monitoring his program, other programs on Fox News, and right wing talk radio. I provided a link to show their exhaustive efforts covering Glenn Beck. Check it out for yourself. They absolutely leave no stone unturned.
http://mediamatters.org/research/201106290030

Gash this lady Jehmu vs the three phonies, and clearly handle them, its unbelievable. It exposes their rash and wretched arguments, Lets see if she is invited back. No shouting, no screaming, just basic facts they are forced to accept.

How closely did Media Matters cover Olbermann?

skyfet said:
Gash this lady Jehmu

skyfet apologizes for making no sense today .

He’s exhausted after spending all day yesterday looking for his favorite spoon , Larry .

media matters is unpatriotic

GoneFishing said:
Awww, dont be scared; No need to start a little soros-nutter Fear parade. The Red Cross is safe, because the Red Cross really Is a Charity…MediaMatters tho, is not a charity, and it never was.

And the Heritage foundation, another not for profit tax exempt educational organization that leans clearly right, and participates all over the block in right wing causes, they should lose their not for profit status, too?

On the heels of FOX being outed as the brainchild of Ailes right wing propaganda machine, isn’t it kind of appropriate that MM spends so much time outing that agenda? 95% of what MM does is simply post links to actual Fox reporting and lets the reader make up his own mind. There is nothing wrong with that.

gordonbloyershow said:
If there is a “right-wing” millionaire out there that would like someone to destroy Media Matters, I am available.
I will take down that group in less than a year. It is not hard to contact me. I use my REAL name here and I have destroyed liberals in the past.

Funniest post …EVER!!!

And since Media Matters only focuses on Fox and not the others, isn’t that a bit biased?

Perdido said:
And since Media Matters only focuses on Fox and not the others, isn’t that a bit biased?

“Only” is not the right word. “Mostly” is more like it. There is a big difference.

gordonbloyershow said:
If there is a “right-wing” millionaire out there that would like someone to destroy Media Matters, I am available.I will take down that group in less than a year. It is not hard to contact me. I use my REAL name here and I have destroyed liberals in the past.

Will you be setting up a not for profit corporation to handle that chore, gordon?

I get it. If a network leans right, that’s bad. If it leans left, not so much.

Perdido said:
I get it. If a network leans right, that’s bad. If it leans left, not so much.

No, they are the same.

Okay, they’re the same. Media Matters just doesn’t see it that way.

Perdido said:
Okay, they’re the same. Media Matters just doesn’t see it that way.

MM has no problem with right wing not for profits like the Heritage foundation and does not seek that excellent organization to lose its tax exempt status because it leans right. There are lots of right leaning not for profit educational organizations like the Heritage Foundation and left leaning not for profit educational organizations like MM. Fox is blowing smoke.

Fox might be blowing smoke. And Media Matters is still a bunch of far left hacks.

Perdido said:
Fox might be blowing smoke. And Media Matters is still a bunch of far left hacks.

Yep. You could be right. I do not think MM is non-partisan.

Fox can’t win this fight.
They are actually opening the door for the Koch Brothers funded organizations like the Media Research Center to be under scrutiny….it’s a stupid thing to do by Fox….no surprise there.

NORBIT Jr. said:
Obama’s war on prosperity,

Clever! I’ve not heard that. I’ll use it.

Thanks

BoomShakalaka said:
Fox can’t win this fight.They are actually opening the door for the Koch Brothers funded organizations like the Media Research Center to be under scrutiny….it’s a stupid thing to do by Fox….no surprise there.

media research center should pay taxes also

Since the left is always saying they’re smarter, seems like they’d have some rich people too.

Unfortunately, I arrived a bit late to this dialogue.

Maybe, if we all took a peek at the genuine American Philosophy extending from Governmental treatises, we could arrive at a ‘conclusion’?

The Declaration of Independence, offers Philosophical insight, but, not codified law, still…

The Constitution offers the 5th and 14th amendments, meaning, “equal protection” and “due process.” All statutory Laws must be philosophically consistent with Constitutional precepts.

Hence, is affording “equal protection,” in the form of Tax breaks to Media Matters, consistent with, say, the United Negro College Fund? Or the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals?

Are such, consistent application(s) of “neutral principle” or “equal protection?”

Should Media Matters receive Tax Breaks? The answer is obvious, isn’t it?

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

BOOMSHAKALAKA,

Take your time for a change, Think, before you write? What a novel idea…

WillP said:
MediaMatters should be commended for their hard work and dedication in covering Glenn Beck over the last 2.5 years.

Media Mutters should be commended for trying to shut him up? No, sorry.

The Lantern of Truth said:
skyfet apologizes for making no sense today .

He’s exhausted after spending all day yesterday looking for his favorite spoon , Larry .

Thats funny, I am not sure of the context, but I laughed pretty hard

WillP said:
Our society would fall apart in a myriad of ways that we could not imagine.The Red Cross would not be able to provide sufficient disaster relief services because they would be forced to hire fewer personnel. Likewise, MediaMatters would be forced to downsize laying off an inestimable amount of employees who would otherwise be employed following the developments at Fox News.

One of these things is not like the other. Disaster relief /= partisan attack dogs.

cjd ohio 1 said:
media research center should pay taxes also

Yup…can’t have it both ways…but my gut tells me this is just another stunt from FNC and both groups will keep their tax exempt status…I could be wrong,but it looks to me like Fox being vindictive again.

purveyor said:
BOOMSHAKALAKA,

Take your time for a change, Think, before you write? What a novel idea…

Way to take time to write words that don’t say anything at all dude…you don’t even know how lame you are,that’s pretty damn funny to me…
Thanks for the laugh.

ChickaBOOMer| Media Matters: The Taxman Cometh?
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2011/07/media-matters-taxman-cometh.html

purveyor said:
Thats funny, I am not sure of the context, but I laughed pretty hard

I bet that happens to you all the time.

PURVEYOR OF BS AND EMPTINESS.

Pablo said:
One of these things is not like the other. Disaster relief /= partisan attack dogs

PABLO, did I miss something? The comparison or analogy above is all wrong, to the point where I can’t help but think there is more to the story?

Furthermore, 2 people gave you a thumbs down? If Leftists can’t grasp this basic concept, then they are what I have been suggesting for sometime now–”useful idiots.” They know not, that THEY, will be the engine of their own demise. While those they serve, may yet ascend to power.

Socialism and its ugly permutations have never gone away. In fact, Socialism has achieved greater height than ever, recently.

Help me…

BoomShakalaka said:
Way to take time to write words that don’t say anything at all dude…you don’t even know how lame you are,that’s pretty damn funny to me…
Thanks for the laugh.

Let me guess: You went to a High School, whereby you and your compatriots denigrated, even bullied the articulate, bright and academically successful students?

I am correct, aren’t I?

purveyor said:
Let me guess: You went to a High School, whereby you and your compatriots denigrated, even bullied the articulate, bright and academically successful students?

I am correct, aren’t I?

Here you go again with another empty personal attack,just because you’re out of arguments,as usual.
You’re not even funny or entertaining.A black hole has more substance than you do.

PURVEYOR OF NOTHING.

BoomShakalaka said:
Fox can’t win this fight.They are actually opening the door for the Koch Brothers funded organizations like the Media Research Center to be under scrutiny….it’s a stupid thing to do by Fox….no surprise there.

Yep. And hundreds or thousands of other not for profits.

TeaPartyNation said:
Fox News Watch Spends Two Segments Challenging Media Matters’ Tax Status

…like the “YOU LIE!” hussein regime will tax one of its socialist propaganda factories !!!! I can just imagine TAX CHEAT tiny tim geither going after his pal leftist-billionaire Soro’s “media mucksters” right away !!!!!!

The warped lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist ideology demands that taxpayers fund each and every one of the outrageous, wasteful, irresponsible, immoral and offensive ideas they promote. Taxpayers must fund abortions, taxpayers must fund left-wing extremist propaganda radio and tv, taxpayers must fund eco-nut extremism, taxpayers must fund the d-cRAT socialist subsidiary and cash cow called “pubic-sector unions”, taxpayers must fund “wealth and income re-distribution” from hardworking, responsible American citizens to the slugs, slackers, deadbeats, liars, freeloaders, losers, taxpayer-leeches, cheats, ILLEGALS and potheads at the core of the d-cRAT socialist party, and on, and on, and on. The d-cRAT socialists love to tax you to death, then tax your death, and have repeatedly shown that they will raise every tax and impose every fee that they can dream up to get them more money to fund their ideological perversions. But, like lunatic-left socialist d-cRAT TAX CHEATS geithner, rangel, daschle, olbermann, killifer, solis, kirk, mccaskill, sebelius, holder, kerry and millions more, they hate to pay taxes for this waste, and they’ll cheat the government out of every penny they can.

The cancer on America known as lunatic-left d-cRAT socialism MUST BE REMOVED COMPLETELY, TOTALLY.

Keep shouting you f*cking moron.

valkyrie101 said:
Yep. And hundreds or thousands of other not for profits.

Yup…but Fox doesn’t care about that do they?
All they care about is attacking anyone who calls them on their BS…as usual.
They’re not even funny on this one..they’re just pathetic,again.

BoomShakalaka said:
Yup…but Fox doesn’t care about that do they?All they care about is attacking anyone who calls them on their BS…as usual.They’re not even funny on this one..they’re just pathetic,again.

media matters attacks fox, good………..fox attacks media matters bad

Yes, there we go, more “fair and balanced”. What a friggin joke foisted on those foolish enough to lap it all up.

gordonbloyershow said:
If there is a “right-wing” millionaire out there that would like someone to destroy Media Matters, I am available.
I will take down that group in less than a year. It is not hard to contact me. I use my REAL name here and I have destroyed liberals in the past.

You are HILARIOUS!!!! Let’s see a record of your “accomplishments,” Gordo. Oh, wait, I forgot: You got a letter to the editor published once.

AmericaSucks said:
You are HILARIOUS!!!! Let’s see a record of your “accomplishments,” Gordo. Oh, wait, I forgot: You got a letter to the editor published once.

He also drove a burrito stand into the ground. True story.

He’s right though. If you want to hire someone to drive a business bankrupt, Gordon is your guy!

cjd ohio 1 said:
media matters attacks fox, good………..fox attacks media matters bad

MM didn’t attack Fox on their right to exist did they?
Why would Fox,as a “News” network, do that?
Huh?

But hey whatever…I’m sure I’m wrong and you’re right.
How dare MM point out the lies on Fox “News” Network with facts..they are so evil.

Fox lying,good….MM pointing it out,bad…..
Copy that.
10-4.

cjd ohio 1 said:
media matters attacks fox, good………..fox attacks media matters bad

No, it’s more the case that FOX is trying to get government to attack Media Matters. That’s a little different.

I’ve read the Media Matters website off and on for years. They provide videos and ample context with their articles and I’ve never seen them pull a deceptive stunt like FOX News Sunday and Chris Wallace did with the Jon Stewart interview.

In fact, if I ever found a case where Media Matters tried to chop four seconds of dialog right out of somebody’s sentence and seamlessly continue the video stream the way FOX News Sunday chopped out the mere mention of Bill Sammon’s political marching orders to FOX’s news anchors, I would stop reading their site.

That’s not to say Media Matters has never, ever got it wrong. I’m sure they’ve made errors but I’m also sure they’ve corrected the record and issued retractions.

Have you ever seen FOX correct the record or retract a false report, even in cases where Politifact has categorized FOX’s disinformation the “Lie Of The Year” TWO years in a row?

BoomShakalaka said:
MM didn’t attack Fox on their right to exist did they?Why would Fox,as a “News” network, do that?Huh? But hey whatever…I’m sure I’m wrong and you’re right.How dare MM point out the lies on Fox “News” Network with facts..they are so evil. Fox lying,good….MM pointing it out,bad…..Copy that.10-4.

fox attack the tax exempt, not the right of media matters to exist either

Mia Kulper said:
No, it’s more the case that FOX is trying to get government to attack Media Matters. That’s a little different. I’ve read the Media Matters website off and on for years. They provide videos and ample context with their articles and I’ve never seen them pull a deceptive stunt like FOX News Sunday and Chris Wallace did with the Jon Stewart interview. In fact, if I ever found a case where Media Matters tried to chop four seconds of dialog right out of somebody’s sentence and seamlessly continue the video stream the way FOX News Sunday chopped out the mere mention of Bill Sammon’s political marching orders to FOX’s news anchors, I would stop reading their site. That’s not to say Media Matters has never, ever got it wrong. I’m sure they’ve made errors but I’m also sure they’ve corrected the record and issued retractions. Have you ever seen FOX correct the record or retract a false report, even in cases where Politifact has categorized FOX’s disinformation the “Lie Of The Year” TWO years in a row?

like the drop fox campaign at media matters, against fox sponsors

cjd ohio 1 said:
fox attack the tax exempt, not the right of media matters to exist either

So why isn’t FOX attacking Brent Bozell’s tax-exempt right-wing Media Research Center? (mrc.org)

cjd ohio 1 said:
like the drop fox campaign at media matters, against fox sponsors

That’s the free market.

Mia Kulper said:
So why isn’t FOX attacking Brent Bozell’s tax-exempt right-wing Media Research Center? (mrc.org)

was MRC attacking fox?

No, just the liberal media.

Mia Kulper said:
That’s the free market.

and having the government make political operations pay taxes is bad?

Only sometimes, apparently.

Mia Kulper said:
No, just the liberal media.

well there you go, media matters attacked fox, and fox responded

FOX responded by crying to the big government..

Mia Kulper said:
FOX responded by crying to the big government..

big government is paying taxes, are you a tea partier?

Um, nope.

you against government collecting taxes then?

Mia Kulper said:
Only sometimes, apparently.

you lose, bye

cjd ohio 1 said:
you against government collecting taxes then?

Aren’t you?

Mia Kulper said:
Aren’t you?

nope, taxes are needed, its the amount

Mia Kulper said:
Aren’t you?

should media matters pay taxes? easy question

The IRS said no, during President Bush’s Adminstration.

Should The Media Research Center pay taxes? Easy question too.

Mia Kulper said:
The IRS said no, during President Bush’s Adminstration. Should The Media Research Center pay taxes? Easy question too.

i didnt ask what the irs thinks , i asked you, what do you think yes or no

Mia Kulper said:
The IRS said no, during President Bush’s Adminstration. Should The Media Research Center pay taxes? Easy question too.

the irs thinks the same thing about mrc

I’d say “no” unless all the other tax-exempt political orgs are revoked as well.

Did you read that MM? “Not get universally attacked,” can’t say the same about your organization about anything! Case in point; attacking Ed Henry from CNN just for joining FNC.

Mia Kulper said:
I’d say “no” unless all the other tax-exempt political orgs are revoked as well.

well i think they both should be taxed, i stated that on the top of page 8 of this thread

Then I’m with you on that one.

Mia Kulper said:
Then I’m with you on that one.

agreed, nice chat, i am sorry for the you lose remark, that was childish on my part

edisciple said:
Did you read that MM? “Not get universally attacked,” can’t say the same about your organization about anything! Case in point; attacking Ed Henry from CNN just for joining FNC.

Media Matters attacked Ed Henry just for joining FOX? That sound suspiciously less than true. Can you elaborate?

np, cjd

cjd ohio 1 said:
well i think they both should be taxed, i stated that on the top of page 8 of this thread

Not both, all.

valkyrie101 said:
Not both, all.

charities and political operation are two different things, but yes all political operations

edisciple said:
Did you read that MM? “Not get universally attacked,” can’t say the same about your organization about anything! Case in point; attacking Ed Henry from CNN just for joining FNC.

Ed Henry, the birther?

So, the birther left CNN for Fixed News…Home of the Birthers?…..Huh!!…..But why oh why?!?

Yea dude, you’re right….MM had no reason to talk about this guy at all….

Wicked argument man…really great stuff……you’re a genius.

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!

cjd ohio 1 said:
charities and political operation are two different things, but yes all political operations

How would you distinguish that? MM is clearly progressive, and involves itself with criticism of right leaning media, but that does not mean it is a political operation. FOX News is a media station, not the democratic party or a governmental agency, right? Likewise, the Heritage Foundation, active on the conservative side, and making strong conservative arguments in the market place of ideas everywhere, would not call itself (and is not) a political operation, either.

valkyrie101 said:
How would you distinguish that? MM is clearly progressive, and involves itself with criticism of right leaning media, but that does not mean it is a political operation. FOX News is a media station, not the democratic party or a governmental agency, right? Likewise, the Heritage Foundation, active on the conservative side, and making strong conservative arguments in the market place of ideas everywhere, would not call itself (and is not) a political operation, either.

if thier purpose is politics(specific view point) they should be taxed……….hertiage should be taxed also

and i mean engaged in politics

cjd ohio 1 said:
if thier purpose is politics(specific view point) they should be taxed……….hertiage should be taxed also

Being conservative, or being progressive, a political purpose does not make. That is philosophy, not politics.

valkyrie101 said:
Being conservative, or being progressive, a political purpose does not make. That is philosophy, not politics.

engaged in politics, and you know what i mean, active in the political arena

cjd ohio 1 said:
and i mean engaged in politics

Churches, also tax exempt, are likewise held to a non-political standard, but they are fully permitted to be progressive or conservative in their religious philosophy without violating that rule. The IRS has hundreds if not thousands of pages of regulations and case law directly defining what churches can and can not do with respect to politics, and I would think that all tax exempt organizations (many non-profits are not tax exempt, by the way) are required to comply with those regs.

“JoeRemi” said:
Keep shouting you f*cking moron.

Nice rebuttal…wait, you hadn’t one.

cjd ohio 1 said:
engaged in politics, and you know what i mean, active in the political arena

I know what you mean. You make a very good point. Ron Paul would agree 100% and would take it a step further and do away with the not for profit status all together.

valkyrie101 said:
I know what you mean. You make a very good point. Ron Paul would agree 100% and would take it a step further and do away with the not for profit status all together.

the only exemption is to active us goverenment recognized religions for me that is

cjd ohio 1 said:
the only exemption is to active us goverenment recognized religions for me that is

and the only reason for that is the seperation of church and state

ChrisNH said:
We need to cut Media Matters’ Dick off.

They’ll just change their name to “BigGummint” or “TeaSack” or something stupidlike, and be back online in no time.

cjd ohio 1 said:
the only exemption is to active us goverenment recognized religions for me that is

That would cause those church exemptions to be unconstitutional, as an establishment of religion. The fact that churches AND not for profit organizations are treated the same, means that churches are not accorded special favor, which is not permitted. Besides, there are 1000s of wonderful not for profits, including the Red Cross, etc., that we collectively judge as beneficial to our society, and thus we give them all tax exempt status if they operate as bonafide not for profits, according to the rules.

valkyrie101 said:
That would cause those church exemptions to be unconstitutional, as an establishment of religion. The fact that churches AND not for profit organizations are treated the same, means that churches are not accorded special favor, which is not permitted. Besides, there are 1000s of wonderful not for profits, including the Red Cross, etc., that we collectively judge as beneficial to our society, and thus we give them all tax exempt status if they operate as bonafide not for profits, according to the rules.

then val, the rules have to be tightened, agree?

cjd ohio 1 said:
then val, the rules have to be tightened, agree?

We have too many regulations already. I am pretty sure that the issue has been covered by current regs, anyway. MM does a valuable service, the Heritage Foundation does the same, I’m cool with tax exempt status. Besides, they really do not generate business income, and if they do, that is already taxed. Your main objection must be that they are permitted to collect tax exempt donations. Is that it?

valkyrie101 said:
We have too many regulations already. I am pretty sure that the issue has been covered by current regs, anyway. MM does a valuable service, the Heritage Foundation does the same, I’m cool with tax exempt status. Besides, they really do not generate business income, and if they do, that is already taxed. Your main objection must be that they are permitted to collect tax exempt donations. Is that it?

no, i think both are businesses, they produce bullshit, i mean information, and should be taxed

but val, this is just my opinion, nothing more

cjd ohio 1 said:
no, i think both are businesses, they produce bullshit, i mean information, and should be taxed

I admire your libertarian tendencies.

cjd ohio 1 said:
but val, this is just my opinion, nothing more

Cool. Good dialogue. ^^

Why is the government involved in sponsoring an independent news organization? If they cannot stand on their own they don’t need to be around. That should also apply to TV programs, such as BET.

CAconservative said:

Why is the government involved in sponsoring an independent news organization? If they cannot stand on their own they don’t need to be around. That should also apply to TV programs, such as BET.

CA CONSERVATIVE,

Back on page 8, I proffered a succinct account of how Statutory Law, SHOULD, follow Constitutional precepts. The “equal protection” clause of the 5th and 14th amendments, SHOULD, control the equal application of Law.

For instance, there is no way that Media Matters, perhaps Louis Farakhan’s outfit and some Muslim groups should be receiving Tax exempt status.

Sometimes it just depends on whose “ox is gored?” This is why our Government and Judiciary is such a mess. The guidance of the Constitution, is all to often, ignored.

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

CAconservative said:
Why is the government involved in sponsoring an independent news organization? If they cannot stand on their own they don’t need to be around. That should also apply to TV programs, such as BET.

In case the private sector collapses, and we activate civil defense measures, the government needs to have a viable news/production capability in place. Finally, only the Lehrer report, and big bird, will remain.

Both the Conservative oriented, “Media Research Center”, and, the Liberal, “Media Matters,” are 501(C)3 non-profits. What is the difference and why should Media Matters potentially lose its 501 status, and NOT Media Research Center?

Again, it depends on “whose ox is being gored,” and it shouldn’t!

The assertion is, that Media Matters has crossed the line by becoming a pro-active participant in the Political/business world. Ergo, MM went after, unapologetically, a News organization and a specific Broadcaster.

Folks, it is our Constitution and our Laws. How much latitude and flexibility do want built in? As long as it is not “your ox, that is being gored.”

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

valkyrie101 said:

In case the private sector collapses, and we activate civil defense measures, the government needs to have a viable news/production capability in place. Finally, only the Lehrer report, and big bird, will remain.

The Liberals, who, typically, lack self efficacy, will run to their strong willed and capable neighbors for help. Those neighbor’s, with a wry smile, will just shake their heads and handl the Liberals a shovel, saying: “You can work your way up.”

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

purveyor said:
The Liberals, who, typically, lack self efficacy, will run to their strong willed and capable neighbors for help. Those neighbor’s, with a wry smile, will just shake their heads and handl the Liberals a shovel, saying: “You can work your way up.” PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

I was only explaining why the government runs a media organization. There is a reason.

valkyrie101 said:
I was only explaining why the government runs a media organization. There is a reason

There shouldn’t be. Only an emergency broadcast.

I love Media Matters. But I also agree with Charles Krauthamer(sp), I don’t believe the American taxpayers should be subsidizing them. But this is where the “Right” confuses the heck out of me. Is Media Matters being funded by the government? This Fox show was about Media Matters not being qualified to be a non-profit organization. There was no mention of Media Matters being funded by the government. Unless they are saying that by the mere fact that Media Matters is tax exempt this somehow equivicates to tax payers paying for Media Matters. If this is the case isn’t this just like the tax breaks the Oil Industry receives? And as we all know, all good little Conservative Congressmen have sold their soul to Grover Norquist and have signed a pact to never raise taxes. So obviously it stands to reason that Conservatives are for Media Matters to retain their tax exempt status. A failure to support this position is tantamount to supporting tax increases.

purveyor said:
There shouldn’t be. Only an emergency broadcast.

So the gov should probably do nothing, no preparation until after the emergency arises? If the only media our country has is private, and something happens to the private sector, we would have no media. What if the private sector gets taken over by just one corporation. I mean right now there are only like 5 or 6 media entities that control 99% of the media. What if it got down to just Viacom owning all the world’s media? Frankly, at that point, I would be quite glad we had an alternative.

valkyrie101 said:
So the gov should probably do nothing, no preparation until after the emergency arises? If the only media our country has is private, and something happens to the private sector, we would have no media. What if the private sector gets taken over by just one corporation. I mean right now there are only like 5 or 6 media entities that control 99% of the media. What if it got down to just Viacom owning all the world’s media? Frankly, at that point, I would be quite glad we had an alternative.

VALKYRIE,

That is a clssic “Straw Man” argument, which means, you lose the point.

The real issue is State owned Media and objectivity with Tax Dollars, etc.

Since the advent of electronic Broadcasting, private Media has more than adequately provided the Citizenry with needed emergency information. Also, the specific Civil Defense, Emergency Broadcast System that interrupts your Radio, occasionally.

“Thou dost protest to much, me thinks.” Your concern is potentially loosing your unfair political dissemination system, isn’t it? When the Constitution and reason are closely examined, PUblic funded Broadcasting is wrong.

In other words, “your ox is being gored.” We need more of that sort of thing!

Purveyor

Bruce said:
love Media Matters. But I also agree with Charles Krauthamer(sp), I don’t believe the American taxpayers should be subsidizing them

BRUCE,

Perhaps you’ve read my Posts that refer to “Neutral Principle”? Such is my Philosophy on Legislation, Law and civil interaction. In other words: Law should be based on “principle,” or, a “principle.”

Your Post fits nicely into that Philosophy. Government funds (taxes) should neither advance or detract an ideology, or, it is no longer “neutral.” Hence, Un-Constitutional.

Well done.

As for the rest of your Post, Sincerely, you are thinking and considering issues in a bit more discerning manner than in the past. But, if you like, we can talk about those later.

Remember BRUCE, out of the blue sky, a week ago, you and WOOFIE just threw mud at me! That was unfortunate. As it appears we could have an interesting conversation?

Purveyor

purveyor said:
VALKYRIE, That is a clssic “Straw Man” argument, which means, you lose the point. The real issue is State owned Media and objectivity with Tax Dollars, etc. Since the advent of electronic Broadcasting, private Media has more than adequately provided the Citizenry with needed emergency information. Also, the specific Civil Defense, Emergency Broadcast System that interrupts your Radio, occasionally. “Thou dost protest to much, me thinks.” Your concern is potentially loosing your unfair political dissemination system, isn’t it? When the Constitution and reason are closely examined, PUblic funded Broadcasting is wrong. In other words, “your ox is being gored.” We need more of that sort of thing! Purveyor

Not a straw man at all. You argue that we should not pay for public broadcasting and I have been explaining why maintaining it is in all our best interests.

valkyrie101 said:
Not a straw man at all. You argue that we should not pay for public broadcasting and I have been explaining why maintaining it is in all our best interests.

Yes, it was/is a Straw man, by definition. You embellished and distorted your position to the point where it no longer resembled the original debate.

Regarding the debate, are tax supported media entities, Constitutional and/or Legal. That is the debate. Furthermore, that is what the Liberal mindset always want to by pass bye, ignore.

“Even if it would save only one life, wouldn’t it be worth it?” No, not necessarily. That is what the Constitution is for. Guidance as to what the proper place of Government is. Also, there are mechanisms in place that allow the Citizenry to make changes—-by following the Constitution and Law.

Liberals continue to see and find things that upset them. Then, they want to change or save those unfortunates that are not (in Liberal ideology) smart enough to quit smoking or wear helmets, or own firearms…

Do you understand my assertion? I do not want anywhere near as much Government as you seem too.

Purveyor

purveyor said:
Yes, it was/is a Straw man, by definition. You embellished and distorted your position to the point where it no longer resembled the original debate. Regarding the debate, are tax supported media entities, Constitutional and/or Legal. That is the debate. Furthermore, that is what the Liberal mindset always want to by pass bye, ignore. “Even if it would save only one life, wouldn’t it be worth it?” No, not necessarily. That is what the Constitution is for. Guidance as to what the proper place of Government is. Also, there are mechanisms in place that allow the Citizenry to make changes—-by following the Constitution and Law. Liberals continue to see and find things that upset them. Then, they want to change or save those unfortunates that are not (in Liberal ideology) smart enough to quit smoking or wear helmets, or own firearms… Do you understand my assertion? I do not want anywhere near as much Government as you seem too. Purveyor

In 1920 the NY Yankees had less than 200 total employees in their entire system. In those days, they fielded nine men. Along the way, they have increased the size of their organization by five times, and their gross revenue has increased by a factor of almost ten. They still field nine men, but now they also have a designated hitter. Why did the Yankees increase their expenses, and their number of employees so radically, and yet they are the richest sports team in the world?

…and they still field just nine men. Obviously, as our nation grows, so must the size of our government.

It is one thing to act as a media watchdog, searching for and publicizing media bias.

It is an entirely different thing to attack one news network to the exclusion of all others, and to wage a campaign to get people to boycott advertisers on that network.

That is the difference between Media Matters and Media Research Center, both of them incorporated as 501(c)3 organizations. MMFA has gone too far — it has become a purely partisan arm of the progressive Democratic Party and the Soros operation. (But I repeat myself.)

MRC uses the exact words of network announcers and interviewers, and exact quotes from New York Times articles, to illustrate bias in their news operations — not on the editorial pages and not the opinions of persons clearly identified as polemicists.

Since Fox doesn’t cover this story in a fair and balanced manner, it’s worth considering why Fox is nervous enough about Media Matters to make them a household name.

Could it be that Fox is scared?

MMFA is kicking their butts. Running scared.

I don’t know how they could object to a website that attacks them using their own words verbatim.

Nope. I just checked. They are still going strong. As usual Fox “News” is full of beans.

Yes. The MRC is different. They aren’t very good.

Beck is gone from Fox “News” and nobody wanted reparations to begin with. Fox lost. :(

MRC is tax exempt also. Yes.

Show an example where MMFA has “slandered” Fox “News” or kindly STFU. Thanks.