Political correctness demands that we keep from offending those who don’t celebrate Christmas.  In some cases this might mean recent immigrants, but it usually means people of other religions, or no religion.  Pay attention to the press coverage of this issue and you’ll see that the “offended” individuals almost never object on their own — they get legal help from organizations like the ACLU.  It is a tiny minority of troublemakers, maybe one person out of a thousand, who wants all references to religion removed from public property, but unfortunately these are the people who are sought out by the news media.

You mean they haven’t already?

You people really trip me out. If you wanted to escape Christmas, it would be impossible. It’s a wonderful, cheerful time, and at once a sacred time. I suspect the Christmases of the of the O’Van Karlsen, Il Douchey, Curly Black-Haired Guy, and Immodium and Nutsofast, above, include none of the latter. But, your bleating, kvetching, moaning and whining are decidedly unChristmas. Fortunately, your sourness ruins it for not a single believer.

I know it’s good money, but how do you show your face to your family and friends?

And how do you sleep at night knowing you scared all those old people?

First they came for the kwanza decorations,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t black.

Then they came for the menorahs,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t jewish.

Then they came for my nativity figurines,
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

The good news is that most folks actually like the Christmas season and appreciate it. Sadly loons like the 3 unwise folks on the couch at Fox use Christmas as just another excuse to attack anyone that disagrees with them. As do folks who think their mission in life is to strip all religion from public view.

Ignore them. They are sad and unimportant. Sure they get help from ACLU and the like. So? The other side of this ludicrous debate gets plenty of help, too.

It is always good to ignore Carlson. She has a knack in her pretending to be as stupid as Kilmeade actually is (Gretchen went to Oxford among other academic achievements and only play a moron on TV) for saying the most inflammatory thing on any made up topic like this one.

How thoroughly opposite the entire point of the season.

What you say to a point is true, but it’s “Fox” that keeps this up front and alive. Some say that’s good, but when it’s scare grandma about removing Christmas lights (yes some believe that) it’s “Fox” promoting a problem! If you want to pray, you can. You want a picture of Christ in your yard, you can. This issue is being blown up for other motives.

what a dumb arss conversation.YES it is Christmas but its also the Christmas HOLIDAY no one is going to take down anyone’s manger scene on there lawn Why do we have to hear this stupid argument every Christmas.

I completely agree with you.  Unfortunately this type of media coverage is what drives a wedge between groups of people.  The only thing this type of coverage does is inflames the extremist on both side of the issue. That is why I laugh everytime Fox brings up this fair and balanced slogan.  I have never heard MSNBC try and make that claim.   

Gretchen, i think we can all agree that no one wants to see your home decorations… oh wait your talking about actual Christmas decorations? Oh yeah go ahead I don’t give a f–k.

I think I can field this one:

never

How is this even a convo in this country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry just had to vent. I love Christmas but cant stand these morons every year bitching about how there is this war on it. If you are a conservative and believe all of this bullshit you must be really dumb, honestly just a complete utter dolt.

stoneparkV gets waaaay more likes per comment.

OMG, someone is  jealous of a very successful, educated woman!

Honey, you need not explain the obvious!

Bawahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

F@ck the Christmas Police.  Noel-1-1 is a Joke!

Pretty soon the libs are going to call Christmas Day Marxist Day. You know it’s what Obama wants, libs. Take your comments to MSNBC!! HAHAHA

Gretchen is looking like a pretty hot man today. And I’m a total dumbass, son. 

Winning. 

if she is so smart–they why does she intentionally act so dumb?

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-december-8-2009/gretchen-carlson-dumbs-down

i know the answer (to cater to fox news audience) but i though i would PLAY DUMB….

She really should not keep the Christmas decoration up on her house past Easter. 

no we call it DECEMBER 25TH…
dumbass..
you know close to winter solstice..
when the cons start disavowing SATAN’S CLAWS…then we libs may start believing they are actually sincere…

JESUS WAS A CAPITALIST…
SCREW THE POOR..BUT SOME MORE CHEAP TRASH MADE BY SLAVES…
and eat like pigs…
all in the name of the Lord..

Hopefully the Christmas Police (whoops, Holiday Cops) will hold Gretchen down and taze her mercilessly.

I was kvetching all last night after some bad shrimp..

it’s coming gretchen. 

Gretchen is so right. But while I still can, I’d like to say

MERRY CHRISTMAS To ALL

I’m sorry if that offends you, so if it does? Simply turn your head and don’t read it.

God, Republicans are all morons. They’re too stupid to know that the separation of church and state is one of the founding principles of American conservatism. In fact, they’ve been systematically trained to believe precisely the opposite.

Saying “Merry Christmas” doesn’t likely offend anybody.  Republicans were able to convince you otherwise, however, because they know you’re a stupid person (no offense).  Please try to remember that Republicans know you’re stupid, so they know they can make you believe ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculous it is.

False outrage is HILARIOUS

HILARIOUS CLIP

these fiends are absolutely cluess. LOL

They sure know how to bring the LOLs though

I hope these 3 all get rosaries for Christmas so they can be reminded of what real religious persecution looks like.   

Son, if YOU are so smart, why did ya say something as stupid as “Repubs hate education” when the fact is that among the Repub candidates are:

3 JDs
1 MD
1 Ph.D

Yeah, son, they really “hate” education!

BTW, Carlson is a Stanford graduate and studied at Oxford! Where did you graduate from? And I’m not talking about HS!

Bawahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Come April 30, say “Happy Walpurgis Night” to everyone.

If you’re lucky, you will either get a hearty response from a knowledgeable lefty or stern condemnation from a paranoid right-winger, but mostly you’ll get that classic look of American perplexity.

Yes but this must make you very jealous.

Than stoneparkIV that is.

The Service-to-self greedy rich who truly represent the Republican Party use the same ploy that has been used since colonial times by the wealthy landowners.  And that is to create a wedge to divide the 99%. 

Back in colonial times the oppressed black slaves and the oppressed white indentured servants, who easily outnumbered the land owners often rose up together in rebellion to their oppression.  The land owners came up with a way to divide these two groups by making one group (the white indentured servants) turn against the other group (black slaves) which was part of the beginning of
institutionalized racism in America that still exist today.  I got this from reading Howard Zinn’s book, “A People’s History of the United States: 1492-Present.”

So we have seen in modern times how the Republican power has used religion, guns,  gays and racism to create a wedge issue to divide and distract the 99% from their abuse to criminal activity and utter disdain of the U.S. Constitution and our Democracy. 

The gay, racism wedge issues doesn’t have the same power has they once did.  So with Fox News and the domination of right wing radio (on our free airwaves) being the propaganda media for the GOP, through the direction of Roger Ailes, Fox News has manufactured a wedge issue of, somehow, insinuating that the left is trying to kill Christmas.  But it is not only b.s. it is
stupid b.s.  I mean anybody with a thinking brain who would buy this crap just goes to prove how, collectively, humans can be turned into sheep through fear and loathing.  What?  Did none of them have happy childhoods?  Just remember, these fools are going to get out and vote.

As for Gretchen Carlson, she is supposed to be an educated woman.  She should be ashamed of herself for her lack of integrity as a human being. But alas, all that money and fame blinds her conscience.

I’m waiting for the “wide-eyed screeching woman” police, can’t get here soon enough.

I dedicate this clip to those who thought my calling these folks dishonest idiots in another thread a bit strong.

Technically though, they’re really not idiots. They just play idiots on TV. At least on sitcoms and such, we know it’s acting.

the baby Jesus told me Gretchen will spend eternity in purgatory.

Wait a second, you just proved OUR point, being that it IS a tiny minority of people who object to religion, but leave it to the right wing media to gin it all up into, “an issue”.  It’s not “political correctness”, it is a manipulated non-issue cooked up by FOX news and the like.

Memo to Petunia: You had better shut up before Stanford asks for their diploma back.

Separation of church and state relates to the creation and enforcement of laws. Laws were written by representatives of the people and not by religious influence, nor did they create laws for the purpose of enforcing religious beliefs. Christmas decorations, religious or not. does not force you into believing or celebrating anything you otherwise would not. They are  symbols of tradition and even as an atheist, it bothers me more that we are losing our traditions for political correctness.

hey dumbass youre getting your stupid ass rush limbaugh talking points confused…why do all you wingnuts try to ram all your delusional daydreams into every complaint???WTH does the ACLU and references to religion have to do with your made up war on christmas???? oh and by the the recent immigrants you speak of ( your dog whistle for mexicans) are overwhemingly catholic, mass going and christian….ARE YOU?????….give it a break….sit back and enjoy President Obamas ride to a landslide and second term…….dipshit

Keeping Jesus separate from the government has never posed a threat to Christmas traditions. Please try to understand that you don’t have the ability to think for yourself. I’m not attacking you; I’m just letting you know.

Oh noes, they’re messing with another of her made-up xianist/commercial holidays? The horror.

Saturnalia celebration should be limited to those who practice paganism or who are retailers. Since she purports to be neither, she needs to stop whining and move on to her next inane questioning of reality.

First, I want to be that police officer who’d get to touch her sweet honey thighs.

Second, Christmas will now be known as “Mohammed Chops Down a Tree Day”, by order of Barry Obama.

LOL

Did ya know that the Founding Fathers didn’t celebrate Christmas? Did ya know Christmas was illegal for a good portion of the early history of the US? Did ya know that Congress met on Christmas during the good old days of fledgling country? 

This is a manufactured “crisis” brought about by one segment of the country being unable to assimilate into modern American culture as it truly is and not as they want to pretend it ever was. 
I believe that those who bray the loudest about the “War on Christmas” are the ones who least understand the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the new frontiers of liberty that they opened for us.

In a Disney World….where reincarnation is real….and one must come back as being lower than in the previous life…..Keith Olbermann’s options are very limited…..I can only think it would be Rosie O’Donnell’s commode.

The only folks I see “objecting to religion” are the right wing Christians who don’t want to be exposed to the fact that not everybody thinks the way they do and that those people are getting tired of coddling them in their denial and bad manners.

O’Van Karlsen !  II Douchey !  Half-Baked Alaskan !
All The Marys in Heaven !!

*drink*

Brian Kilmeade is perhaps the dumbest person on television.  I am serious here.  Yes, Elisabeth Hasselbeck is close, but Kilmeade has her beat.

OMG, Gretchen is SOoooo right! Spongebob Squarepants is going to go to her house in the middle of the night to steal all of her holiday decorations and replace them with a HUGE banner pushing a global warming agenda!

I think Gretchen has one of those ‘blow-up’ Fan-Santas on her lawn. And she deflates it so it looks like a bag of red and white plastic crap when she heads to work at Fox Snooze.

Gretchen Carlson has got to be kidding or the dumbest commentator ever. Nobody is preventing anyone from celebrating Christmas or any other December holiday.   Here’s my solution to the war on Christmas

Lady Lynda’s War on Christmas Solution

Hello Lady Lynda exclaimed in her perfect diction speaking
voice. Dearies. I am taking a respite from my etiqutte tour for a
cogent solution to the “War on Christmas” It seems that every year some
folks claim there is a war on this winter holiday. That this Christian
holiday is beleaguered. That the phrase Merry Christmas is constantly
being confronted with obstacles. Such as stores, malls, shopping
centers putting up signs that say Happy Holidays. This may be a
capricious thougth on my part. But I somehow suspect those poor dear
store owners dastardly scheme is to show impartiality, inclusiveness.
But than again I’m no expert here. Its only a suspicion. I deign to
consider that putting up words such as this is done for a devious
reason. The business people want as many customers as possible. Oh how
mercenary of them!!! Can you imagine a store executive being selfish.
Not wanting anything deleterious to their business>

Yet by putting up these Happy Holidays signs, many folks think these
store owners and workers are emphatically harming their sales. They
claim that Christmas is being ignobally ignored. I ardently differ.
Nobody is stopping fellow Christians from saying Merry Christmas to each
other.Or decorating their homes, lawns,  in a holiday fashion

Well I believe there is a solution that will please virtually
everyone. Here is my proposal. Keep the Happy Holidays signs but
include either other signs or decorations with greetings for other
Winter holidays. There could be symbols for Hanukkah for folks of the
Jewish persuasion. Those who are Wiccan there could be cool yule
symbols. By the way did you know the Christmas tree is derived from the
Yule log? Happy Kwanzaa to our Africa American friends. For our
Hispanic shoppers the words Feliz Navidad somewhere. For Atheist there
could be Happy December. Lastly for Agnostic there could be something
like Happy Holidays but its really unknowable.
The decorating doesn’t need to be expensive. Some drawings with tinsel would be sufficient.

I deign this could be the perect way to please truly everybody. This
would be a truly egalitarian way. It would not favor any Winter
celebration but include each and every one of them. True it may cost
somewhat more. But the more consumers pleased, the more consumers
purchase gifts. And to business people isn’t that the bottom line?

If it is a tiny minority of trouble makers, why is it such a big deal?  Or is it similar to the war on terror?  

BTW, don’t you guys understand the difference between public and private space?  Nobody cares what you do in your own home or business, but the schools and the government belong to ALL CITIZENS, not just Christians.  

Wow! you either made that up out of whole cloth or you attended one far left HS. Christmas was our first national holiday and guess who signed it into law? U.S Grant. Ever read Washington’s Christmas Farewell? http://old.nationalreview.com/interrogatory/weintraub200312230101.asp

The only people in North America who didn’t celebrate Christmas were the Puritans, the descendants of which are modern day Leftists–see “Albion’s Seed” for clarification. That was one, maybe two colonies. Everyone else thought they were nuts and celebrated it anyway.

Why are you people on the Left so full of hate? Do you really think the rest of us are so stupid that we can’t see the changes in this country over the last 40 years? Do you really think we are all so stupid as to believe your version of anything? It’s all so twisted, like the defective mental thinking in all of you–you just hate everything that is good and traditionally Western. You hate it just to hate it.

http://www.libertymind.com/

Tiny minorities rule the USA now a days. Haven’t you heard? When I was a child, even public school children had Christmas pageants. No one cared–an atheist mother filed suit so her son (who later became a Christian anyway) wouldn’t have to sing them. The nation was founded by Christians, for Christians with tolerance for others–but not much. Up until 1965 the only non Christians allowed to migrate to America were Jews–no one else. Most of the colonies had an official religion and all kept them after becoming states–only changing quite awhile after the Constitution was ratified–not because of the Constitution.

If you doubt any of what I have posted here, then go read the online version of “The Federalist Papers”. It not only clarifies that they were all, in fact, Christians, but also that this was/is a Christian nation. If you don’t know what the Federalist Papers are and what they mean, then you either are not an American, or went to some pretty poor schools.

Have you seen the new study out that finds Conservatives are happier people than self identified Liberals? That was not news to me–the most unhappy and hateful people I have ever met are Liberals–the most jealous too.

Kwanza is a made up harvest festival–made up by a convicted rapist serving time in prison. It’s sole purpose was as an anti-white alternative for blacks.

Leave it to a liberal to equate that with Hanuka and Christmas.

heh–so much for “smart libs”. There should be “their”–you know, the other “there”.

Wow! yet another, hate filled, intolerant Libtard. He needs psychotherapy in a major way.

http://www.libertymind.com/

yeah, thats why all the store clerks say “happy holiday” except that the only reason anyone is out buying is for Christmas. The owners of the big stores have all been told by their lawyers that the piddling few in this country who don’t self identify as Christians (less than 10%, mind you) might be offended and sue.

It’s amazing how stupid libtards are–in that they think no one else can see the radical, far left changes in this country over the last 40 years.

yes, and I sure am glad you’re not an attorney. Just exactly where in the Constitution does it say anything like that? It doesn’t. What is says is, is that Congress shall make no law establishing a state religion. It does not say anything about the states or local governments. Thats because most of the colonies had a start religion at the time of the founding and most of them continued to long after ratification.

Many, you libtards sure are lacking in a real education–must be those fine public schools your brethren have been running these last 35 years. You know, those people that have been producing the ever lower test scores for the last 30 years. The ones who belong to the unions.

No religious influence? What about the “Creator”–the One Who endowed us with inalienable rights? You know, the ones that man cannot legitimately remove? Yeah–thats a problem for the Libtards, especially as most of them want most of those rights removed.

The greedy rich who represent the Republicans? You’re sort of forgetting that it was the Dems who rammed TARP through congress to bail out their buds on Wall Street, aren’t you? You know, the Wall Street guys who are the Dems largest contributors? You know, guys like former Democratic Senator/ Governor Corzine–the 650 billion dollar man Corzine? How about 10 billion dollar man Soros?Or 48 Million dollar/ Senator with all her money invested in China Nancy Pilosi? You, know, like the Kennedys, 500 million dollar John Kerry or billion dollar global warming activist AL Gore or 15 million dollar wedding Clintons….

The list just goes on and on and on. Thats why they call you Liberals “Libtards”, because you just make your reality out of whole cloth.

And what about libtards, such as you, what’s your excuse?

http://www.libertymind.com/

Coming from someone with a SAT of maybe 900……

It was claimed by the Catholic Church 1700 years ago. Why don’t you seek help?

http://www.libertymind.com/

and you’re an adult? Please don’t tell me you’re “active with children”. Most likely a public school teacher….

http://www.libertymind.com/

My guess is, is you consider them “dumb” because you can’t understand most of the words they use, right?

It predates the Yule Log by a long shot. Kwanzaa is a made up”harvest festival” (by a convicted rapist, no less) not practiced by most “African-Americans” and by 0 Africans. And Feliz Navidad means Merry Christmas.

And you’re calling them “dumb”?

I also dedicate this clip to those that are so lame and unoriginal they use the term “libtard”

Nope. What you said there is 100% lies. People started saying Happy Holidays to be inclusive of Jewish people, for the most part. There are no grounds whatsoever for lawsuits.

Please try to remember that you are a Republican, and all Republicans are systematically trained to believe precisely the opposite of the truth. Republicans know you’re stupid, so they know they can make you believe ANYTHING.

most excellent. you send your adversaries to a right wing crackpot site where they must be enlightened to the goals of your psychoses. true believers such as your ilk hopefully will get your reward in your imagined next life. cheers and merry xmas.

Your claims are lies clerks say Merry Christmas when i was at the mall yesterday I got merry christmas. So you have been proven wrong and your a liar as well and I doubt the store would be sued. and really is Happy Holidays that bad it doesn’t matter.  

Gretchen is wrong they will never take down her decorations she is making much ado about nothing and this phoney war on christmas. Gretchen is being over the top.

To my Liberal Friends:

Please except with no obligation, implied or explicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practice of your choice, with respect to their religious/secular persuasion, and/or traditions of others , or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish  you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year of 2012 but, not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great. Not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor the only America in the Western hemisphere. Also, this wish is made without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or secular preferences of the wishee.

To my Conservative Friends:

MERRY CHRISTMAS, AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR…..