Judging from some of their facial expressions, it goes without saying.

It’s painful for them to admit what is apparently obvious. This is why being a partisan hack is bad for your mental state. You see something that is clearly not right, but you are prevented from admitting it because you have to stay with the party line. It also amazes me how some of these jokers have to defend Palin’s dismal record  being an ideologue zombie is lame and sad. 

By the way, I don’t think Perry is that dumb, he had some C’s and A’s. Please let the elitist A student take a hike. The last time I checked the richest guys in IT are drop outs, so cut the crap. 

T.C.’s business card :

         Tommy Christopher

                          S.O.O.( Soldier of Obama)

Where does this borderline worship of people who spend their life in Academia come from?

It’s  false to equivocate years spent in Ivy league schools with how well someone can preform their job. 

Someone can spend years studying music theory and they’re not going to be Jimi Hendrix, Eddie Van Halen, or Jimmy Paige.  It takes experience.

You can study business all you want but unless you get out there and see what works, you’re not going to be Bill Gates or Steve Jobs(both drop outs, btw.)

And as much as I love film and enjoy reading about it, I’ll never be Scorsese or Kubrick.

I don’t know about Perry’s intelligence, but I have his record to look at.  Where Obama had no experience, and it clearly shows.  And I think we can clearly see how well Obama’s “sheer brilliance” has helped him in terms of  fixing the economy…  

Well gee, Tommy. Did it ever occur to you that they considered the whole assertion dumb, and that it was beyond ridiculous to even seriously discuss it?

There is no way you can argue with people about whether someone like Perry is dumb, or not. It’s based totally on perception and politics. Maybe you’re not smart enough to realize that?

Fox’s point is not to prove Perry is smart.
It’s to prove Politico is a liberal media outlet bent on destroying Republican candidates.

A major weapon in their arsenal is tearing down news organizations until the only one left to trust is Fox.

So the story is not about Perry. It’s about creating more fear in the minds of conservatives that the entire media system is liberal and that only Fox can protect them.

Obama’s grades are sealed , and you don’t seal something that makes you look good .

they don’t want to have to come back tomorrow and apologize.  just ask bob beckel and greg gutfeld. (was their pay docked or did they just get reprimanded for speaking ill of queen palin?)

Ironically, you bought the lefts incessant narrative that ANY news that comes from Fox is completely untrue and dangerous.  So dangerous that it shouldn’t even be allowed first amendment rights!

http://dropfox.com/

they probably thought it was a rhetorical question.

Tommy says:

Does he pander to dummies? Sure,

I’m just curious Tommy, do you consider yourself smart?  I continue to be amused that you libs think calling those who disagree with you stupid, is a way to win them over. 

i think the questioners are confusing dumb with perry being a religious freak.

Normally, I would ignore such drivel, but I have to ask: where in my post did I intimate that Fox doesn’t deserve First Amendment rights? I eagerly await your answer. 

You can reach me at iheartObama@liberallapdog.com.

OK.  Now you’ve done it.  I actually had to read a Politico article.  Obviously Mediaite is just taking a page from Politico’s rather smart move to put the headline as, “Is Perry Dumb?”, and milking the page views.

Doocey makes Kilmeade look like a Rhodes scholar and Hannity isn’t exactly the sharpest spoon in the drawer.  I don’t think that Malkin is dumb, but she’s never added a scintilla of information to any issue that I’ve ever read.  Ingraham is smart, but I think her criticism of Perry is a bit off base, because what it talk radio, aside from “broad generalities”?  I wouldn’t know Megyn Kelly from Adam.

My question is whether any of these people actually took 10 minutes to read the article or just followed the eyeballs, “Hey, this is getting a lot of media play, let’s run with it.”  I suspect the latter from the White Noise Networks.

The gist of the article is that Perry isn’t a deep thinker, but as my favorite quote in the article noted, “If he should know about John Locke, he’ll know about John Locke,” Miller said. “If it’s not on his schedule, it’s irrelevant to him.”  So he flubbed on a China policy question (go ahead and ask any sitting governor about China policy and see the answer you get) and now he’s reading Kissinger’s “On China” (also cited in the article).

Perry doesn’t strike me as someone who ruminates very often on man’s place in the universe, but at least he didn’t pull a Bachmann and say that he lies on the beach reading Von Mises.

There are questions about Perry’s jobs numbers,… wages paid, count illegals in your numbers and report your numbers to the labor board yourself. There are some bright people in the GOP, Perry,.. too early, but to try to hold Perry above Obama,… clownish!

Aren’t you the same guy who was claiming that Obama was hiding his birth certificate because he wasn’t born in the US? 

So it looks like Perry is the shoe-in for the GOP nomination now that he’s being lauded and defended as much as Palin was.

 Hard to deny the idiocy of anyone who is as chummy with televangelist lunatics as Perry is.

Reminds me of Peggy Noonan getting caught pointing out the stupidity of Palin’s VP nomination. These people speak a hell of a lot differently when they think the cameras are off.

 Why worry about getting experience when you can just inherit your position like the Bush’s?

A lot of us Conservative Independents like Gov. Perry. He is definitely the best choice from either of our outdated political parties. Both the Repuglicons and the Dummycraps are so out of touch with us, the American Electorate. I don’t think anyone on planet Earth considers any of the talking heads and pundits at LSD/PMSnbc, CNN or Fox as smart. Not even close. The 5 pictured above are at best entertainers. Those at LSD/PMSnbc are jokes and clowns at the very best and the idiots at CNN are just that…idiots. None of the talking idiots on cable, regular TV  or in the lamestream media could influence any voter unless that voter had an IQ of around 12.

Man, Tommy, you are seriously carrying water for the DNC.  You must have a quota you are trying to fill of stories with Rick Perry is dumb in the headline.  I hope they are paying you well, because it’s your reputation as a “journalist” that’s going down the tubes.  

Graders are the new birthers. They still think there’s some magic document out there that will cancel out the 2008 election and put  McLame and their beloved Sarah in the White House. Really kind of sad how detached from reality they are..

 yup. they got their orders from the establishment and are in lockstep for Bush III.

I didn’t say that at all.  I just find your description of Fox of having weapons in their arsenal of misinformation or creating fear amusing.

It could be that not everybody agrees with your worldview, and Fox happens to present the side that conservatives feel is not represented in other forms of media.

That View of Fox leads to mainstream Liberals actually suggesting that the network is dangerous.  As if somehow the marketplace of ideas is bad.

I didn’t say that at all.  I just find your description of Fox of having weapons in their arsenal of misinformation or creating fear amusing.

It could be that not everybody agrees with your worldview, and Fox happens to present the side that conservatives feel is not represented in other forms of media.

That View of Fox leads to mainstream Liberals actually suggesting that the network is dangerous.  As if somehow the marketplace of ideas is bad.

I didn’t say that at all.  I just find your description of Fox of having weapons in their arsenal of misinformation or creating fear amusing.

It could be that not everybody agrees with your worldview, and Fox happens to present the side that conservatives feel is not represented in other forms of media.

That View of Fox leads to mainstream Liberals actually suggesting that the network is dangerous.  As if somehow the marketplace of ideas is bad.

Are all of you left-wing, wacko dummycraps as stupid as you seem to be??? Sheeeeesh, you should change your alias to ‘El Stupeeeeedo’…

 I like how his question assumes the argument against Perry’s intellect is true.

Bush could have started a civil war in every Arab country; he would still be a hero at Fox News. Rick Perry could say that Social Security was a government program for children; he would still not be labeled dumb at Fox News. Fox News is a strictly partisan organization headed by former GOP operatives intended to promote the GOP and its candidates regardless the circumstances. Never expect open, reasoned judgment from Fox News.

Actually all we want is for his C average to become public so we can rub it in your already brown noses. 

Surely Shirely, you are not saying the Obumbler is smart, are you? No I didn’t think so. Nobody could be so ignorant as to say something that stupid.

BTW, just when does O’BUMmer plan on releasing his college transcripts, his ‘REAL’ birth certificate, his arrest records, his records concerning his heavy use of drugs and alcohol in the past, etc.??? And if all you wackos on the left want to question the religion of any of the GOP candidates, especially our next President in 2013, Rick Perry, then lets have an all out over Obumbler’s 20 years under the NONReverand Wrong. You flunky’s on the left are such hypocrites.

Carry on and have a nice evening…

I didn’t watch the clips, so would somebody fill me in, did anyone ever ask Ingraham, Malkin or Carlson if they thought Rick Perry was dumb? As I said I haven’t watched the clips in question but I’ll bet you $1000 nobody ever asked them that question, hence no defense of his intellect, none necessary.

It’s fun for headlines but we all know none of the guys is dumb on either side. Mickey Mouse Media games.

He has a reputation as a journalist?  I thought this was a website to check on media, hence the name.

I would hope that you are bright enough to realize why they ran with the “Perry is Dumb” meme.

The article was given that headline because “Politico” likes to drive traffic for itself and then a lot of people piggyback.

You did read the article, right?

Please. Grow up. Watch it sometime instead of reading about it from other “dubious” sources.

i’m trying to find an intelligent post of yours that would merit your criticism (albeit of a 5th grade level)  but the only contribution you have to this thread is a collection of talking points you could have easily gotten on the same networks you rail against.
even though i have taken time out to assist you the next time you post, i now know i can save time by skipping over your future endeavors.
your welcome.

I consider you stupid.  I’ve read your postings and they are all Attitude and Platitude.

The only evidence I ever see is a link, which reminds me of sausage, not evidence.

If you want to do it, by all means, do it.  But be prepared to break it down for the rest of the class.

They aren’t sealed.  It is against the law to release your college transcripts without your notice.  Both Bush and now Perry’s were leaked.  

They aren’t sealed.  It is against the law to release your college transcripts without your notice.  Both Bush and now Perry’s were leaked.  

Liberal feel the need to silence anyone who doesn’t agree with them because they can’t win an argument on the merits.

Here’s Tommy’s “double down” post, right on cue, getting as much mileage as he can from the “Perry is dumb” meme the leftists are pushing.

Tommy is a commenter, just like all of us. He’s no different except that in liberal media circles if you’re a good enough commenter, they’ll promote you through the ranks.

“Where does this borderline worship of people who spend their life in Academia come from?”
It depends on the discipline.  If we are talking about economists it pays for them to know people that are intimately aware of the “situation on the ground” (long-term cultural patterns), which is sadly missing in most cases.

It’s  false to equivocate years spent in Ivy league schools with how well someone can preform their job.  

Sorry.  The false equivalency is on your part.  For starters, you list several artists, all of whom worked within one domain and is obviously aesthetic.  Attending an elite school in any field is automatically narrowing.

“You can study business all you want but unless you get out there and see what works, you’re not going to be Bill Gates or Steve Jobs(both drop outs, btw.)”

Which is why we keep on cranking out MBA’s?  The problem is that both of them had business and psychological acumen combined.  

“And as much as I love film and enjoy reading about it, I’ll never be Scorsese or Kubrick.”

Sort of a grab bag of references and this just clinches it.  I happen to be a fan of both, but I do not equate myself with people that go to film school.  I’m a Kurosawa fan myself, above both of them.

That’s aesthetics.  Lovely arguments can be had.  Public policy?  Not so much.  

You don’t know how many times I’ve seen this in the IT field. Some of my best employees have ZERO college experience while I’ve fired someone with a PHD because he was absolutely worthless.

Actually, If you want to see his records, you’re “racist”.

I consider you stupid, Oeno. I assume you voted for Obama, right? And plan to again?

That’s a “stupid” so beyond the stratosphere of “stupid” that it’s impossible to comprehend for most of us.

Pretty much Mediaite has decided to flush itself down the tubes in order to carry water for Obama in 2012.  It’s not that i’m surprised at all by this, but it’s sad that I will probably end up just ignoring this site more and more up until election time, and eventually delete it from my favorites.

This stuff is just really weak and very predictable from Mediaite White House correspondent (no bias here) and Liberal columnist . Tommy knows what the plan is attack attack attack there will be no defense of this President just nothing but attacks on anyone who dares runs against him. Really shows were the liberal media is going this election.

Actually, I’m more interested on any papers he may have written on the greatness of communism.

Actually, I’m more interested on any papers he may have written on the greatness of communism.

When a website runs four articles in 24 hours with Rick Perry is dumb in the headline, it has left the realm of journalism far behind.

In general, this is the whole problem with Mediaite.  It wants to be taken seriously as a place that employs journalists and reports news.   But when covering the 2012 election, the “reporters” here have decided to give up journalism — since they simply can’t resist the temptation to help out the Democrat party in obvious and pathetic ways. 

You can’t do both in your career — either your a journalist dealing in news or a spinmeister dealing in spin.  So Tommy Christopher makes his choice.  I simply point out the choice he has made.  

I haven’t watched the Hannity clip, but I did watch the Kelly one with Michelle Malkin. 

Kelly never directly asked Malkin whether or not she thought Rick Perry was dumb, she asked her “What do you make of it?”. Malkin then started saying that this was one of those “cut and paste” attacks on candidates that get made somewhere in the campaign. But Malkin still never took Perry’s defence. The only thing she seemed to do was make an attack on liberals for posing the question “Is Rick Perry Dumb?”. The only place Malkin ever came close to defending Perry was when, in response to the article “Is Rick Perry Dumb?”, she said “compared to what?”.

So no direct question, but still an unsupportive answer.

I haven’t watched the Hannity clip, but I did watch the Kelly one with Michelle Malkin. 

Kelly never directly asked Malkin whether or not she thought Rick Perry was dumb, she asked her “What do you make of it?”. Malkin then started saying that this was one of those “cut and paste” attacks on candidates that get made somewhere in the campaign. But Malkin still never took Perry’s defence. The only thing she seemed to do was make an attack on liberals for posing the question “Is Rick Perry Dumb?”. The only place Malkin ever came close to defending Perry was when, in response to the article “Is Rick Perry Dumb?”, she said “compared to what?”.

So no direct question, but still an unsupportive answer.

How about we wait until at least one debate and judge the candidates on their merit?  Can we do that?  Can we actually see how they perform in  stressful environment, ask them to explain their position on specific issues, or maybe see how they handle themselves in a debate before we start calling someone dumb?

Is it too much to ask to let people make their own assessment?  And none of these conservative guest on Fox have actually worked with the guy.  Perry has kept to himself and off the radar for 10 years.  He hasn’t spent his time as a washington insider.  Therefore, them not saying the guy isn’t dumb means nothing.  Lets see how he performs before we start the dumb, crazy, evil assessments.

Isn’t that what campaigns are for?

Got a point tommy, never heard anyone come to your defense and say you are smart, so i see how your logic works lol

I wear liberal criticism as a badge of honor, so thank you!

“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.”

Small minds will think I’m calling FNC “the devil.” I’m not.
Maybe you can figure it out why the above quote relates to FNC.

James Carney probably would.  They tight!

What does that even mean?
How does that lump of generic claptrap figure into the real world of political discourse?

I present facts, numbers that can be checked! You spew out conspiracy theories, “tea party” vomit! No facts, none, just opinion. Not one of those conspiracy lies are held as facts, anywhere but the “tea bubble”! We don’t question religion. We question liars, that claim religion! As far as Perry, please back him, give him your money. What ever you do,….. stick with him, please, please in the name of God, please! He’s a very smart man and you’re right!

Smart people know what I mean. 

Exactly.
It’s just some juvenile, meaningless insult with no value as commentary. I look forward to more generic posts lacking thought and insight.
 
Now take a second and really consider your response. I mean really give me your best anti-liberal playground taunt.

That horse was dead when you tried it the first time.

So, I guess since Barack Hussein Obama ll hasn’t specifically stated ” I am not a muslim ” he is one according to your convoluted left wing conspiracy theory way of seeing things.

Of course they all did say, in one way or another that 0bama might be. I imagine we can expect a press conference disputing 0bama’s dumbness tomorrow.

Tommy, is Joe Biden dumb???

Is this really the right angle for liberals to take? Democrats have the dumbest electorate on the planet in their pocket, Minorities. The average Democrat IQ is probably about 85. By insulting Rick Perry for being stupid, they are alienating their most beloved base: Black, Mexicans, and Hick Whites. Why is it that the Eruptor is the only one who sees these things?

Exactly. Perhaps they want to define dumb? If they want to define dumb, I’d say that destroying our country from within by pushing socialism is pretty dumb. There is ample evidence that it does not work. There is ample evidence that Keynesian economics does not work. Yet they vote for their socialist who pushes the Keynesian doctrine, whose very WIFE could find NOTHING to be proud of America about, and whose preacher of 20 years has a chip on his shoulder against whites.

Hick whites are in the republican party.

Well, I guess the attempt to scrutinize job creation in Texas backfired.  The liberal press finally realized that the more they look at that issue, the worse it is for Obama.   Then they tried to act outraged over Rick Perry calling a Ponzi scheme a Ponzi scheme.   Then the liberals realized that casting light on that particular Ponzi scheme doesn’t help Obama at all.  So they have given up on issue, and now return to that popular standby of liberals in the Alinsky era — good old-fashioned name-calling! 

Of course, that was a disaster in the 2008 election, and will seem even more of a desperate gesture in 2012.  It will look like the Left doesn’t have the courage to run on Obama’s actual record.  And, it’s true, they don’t.

The Righties have already lost 2012 because of Social Security and Medicare. 

It’s done. The TeaBagger Cult is going to get there asses handed to them. Period.

And I’m going to laugh my ass off!!!

Because ‘eruptor’ obviously has a very low IQ.

‘eruptor’…..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

That’s because he fucking stupid.  Hell, if Karl Rove (who had to deal with that MENSA Bush) calls your intellect into question then something must be right about it. Like the saying goes, if there’s smoke…..

“That’s because he fucking stupid” Hey you toothless red-neck’d Hill-Ape, better learn the King’s English before you mouth off about somebody else’s intellect. LMFAO! heheheheheheh!

Yes, please do ya moron. And thank you for crawling back into your hole in the outhouse.

Nope, never been to anything where the tea party (???) was involved. You gals on the left accept everything from Obumbler as gospel but, question everything on the right. Please post a link to where I can find Obummer’s actual (Real)grades from his college days. And while you are at it, tell us why Obum stayed in Wright’s church for 20 years without ever questioning it. Maybe throw in a real birth certificate and not one of the funny ones going around the internet a few months back.

FWIW, Obumbler is going down come Nov. 2012. Way too many of us Independents damn sure ain’t going to vote for him in Nov. Women, college kids, blacks and latino’s no longer have any faith in the guy. He is in way over his head. He is the worst leader I have ever seen. One and done!

BTW, you must have been around some tea partiers to know so much about their vomit. Did they get it all over your clothes? Tou face? Post some pics. ROTFFLMFAO at the thought of vomit running down your face. Probably an improvement in your looks.

Tou…wtf??? s/b Your

Im not sure who the small minds are that your referring too, I assume its your standard garden variety leftwing condescension oozing out.  But I’m guessing that your overall point with the whole “greatest trick” quote is that fox news is lying or obfuscating the truth.  If this is the case, substantiate it somehow with links, fact, whatever.  Surely if FOX news was putting out disinformation and lies like folks like you and other claim they are, we would be hearing about libel and slander lawsuits against FOX every other day.  We don’t…..why is that?  

Seriously Redleaf, judging by your comments here, I get the impression you consider yourself a pretty smart cookie.  So if that’s the case, don’t you think with a half second of thought, the most likely conclusion one would come to regarding Obama’s transcripts are that they are NOT flattering or helpful, otherwise he would have released them in the primaries against Hillary?

SkyFet, A&M is not exactly an academic powerhouse, and Tollbooth did not pursue an academically challenging degree. But, when people say Tollbooth is dumb, and millions do, I don’t think they’re speaking of his academic pursuits. Like all wholly self-absorbed individuals, Tollbooth simply has no curiosity about anything nor any interest in anything other than his looks.

Hey, you snide, arrogant, little bastard, haven’t you ever made a typing mistake?  You’d better watch your ass, I’ll be watching your fucking posts like a hawk, bitch

What a good point and how well stated.

How are girls in the “tea party” today? Moron, when you hide only in the “tea bubble”, you’ll never find any answers because they don’t want you to! Obama did address the issues with Wright and said he was wrong, about many of his statements, you “teas” cling to! (fact) The b.c,,… yours isn’t legal either, you weren’t born here! You see how that works, I just said it, it must be true! It doesn’t matter that it meets your state’s standard and your state agrees to the same! For no factuals reasons, I will say your b.c., isn’t  real”! Why don’t you come up some real conspiracies. Something with a slight chance of being true, instead of this tired disproven, past nutbag crap! Now, the next time you lick up the “tea” vomit, don’t get angry with them. You still need to send them your money and support Perry, please, please support him!

Tommy, if they had been willing to be suckered in, the story would be “Conservatives Swear Perry’s Not Dumb”.  Now, anyone with half a hint of a clue knows that you don’t get to be a jet pilot and Air Force officer, as well as governor of Texas for 10 years, while being dumb.

Honestly – why don’t we just have the media pick the candidates for us. Seriously – we know  MSNBC/media will always always put forth their best Democrat and it seems everyone seems to belief Fox is Conservative/Right Wing – so let them choose who the nominees should be then we’ll just go from there.

I do watch it sometimes and it is nothing but partisan hacks spewing hate filled buuuuullsh@t, nonsense and flashing red lights. Do they seriously need to say FOX NEWS ALERT for a friggin’ guest. It is all designed to scare old people, and manipulate the religious and patriotic, through over use of the flag and religion. Sinclair Lewis once said that
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”

“In Three Fox News Segments No Conservative Guest Will Say Rick Perry Isn’t Dumb”

You have to admitt, it is a pretty Dumb question.  These folks are too smart for that.

“In Three Fox News Segments No Conservative Guest Will Say Rick Perry Isn’t Dumb”

You have to admitt, it is a pretty Dumb question.  These folks are too smart for that.

Responding to the below ‘Guest’ comment:
There was a 2003 case where a Florida appeals court ruled that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news. “They (Fox News attorney’s) argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the right
to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves. Fox
attorneys did not dispute Akre’s claim that they pressured her to
broadcast a false story, they simply maintained that it was their right
to do so.” http://www.relfe.com/media_can_legally_lie.html

Tell you what Internet tough guy, I’ll be at the liquor store tonight @6:00 on the corner of Aviation and 119th Pl. to kick your little sissy-boy ass up and down the street. I’m going to be LMFAO walking around the block with my foot up your keester and my finger on the trigger of my iPhone taking pictures of that and posting to all your fans here on Mediaite. You feelin’ me now? Bring your posse, Prison-Trash.

I’ll be at work then.  Why don’t we reschedule to this Saturday, after the USC game? I’ll need to do something to celebrate their first win of the season

Worst leader, not by a long shot.  When its all said and done, he’ll be one of the better ones.  So, who are you going vote for, stupid as Prick Perry?

Socialist my ass. Dude is far from that.  He’s more of a corportist.  Since you’re talking about economics, if you bitches were so  much better, then name the last rethuglican president to balance his budget?  Here’s a hint: Nick Dixon

It’s “corporatist”. I would have thought an Obama-Gargling DemoKKKrat like yourself would at least know that.

I want to see one person in a panel of Progressives on MSNBC say that Obama is a absolute racist and an incompetent failure. 
HE IS…..BUT THEY WON’T.
Same thing in reverse.

It’s 6:00 douche! You’ve got a half hour to get your GPS location device off and down here to the ‘Wood. Don’t be late.

YOU A PUNK!

Have no idea what a corportist is. Did you mean corporatist? Interesting…like this kind???

Fascist corporatism:

Fascism’s theory of economic corporatism involved management of
sectors of the economy by government or privately controlled
organizations (corporations). Each trade union or employer corporation
would, theoretically, represent its professional concerns, especially by
negotiation of labor contracts and the like. This method, it was
theorized, could result in harmony amongst social classes. Authors have noted, however, that de facto economic corporatism was
also used to reduce opposition and reward political loyalty.

Because if so, I’d have to agree. It is 0bama and liberal dummies described to a “T”. But let’s see…spreading the wealth…did your hero say he wanted to spread the wealth??? Who’s wealth??? OTHER PEOPLE’S WEALTH??? Wow. Sounds like either theft, or socialism to me. You’re not too smart, are you???

And is rethuglican, like…baby talk for republican??? Cute. But, who are the thugs that want to spread other people’s money, again??? See, I don’t mind helping a brother or a sister. I just don’t know if I want to help BROTHER OR SISTER I don’t even know if I’d like them. Know what I mean, dummy?

And who the hell is Nick Dixon??? A cute rethuglican???

He/she/it’s too busy coming up with cutesy names to think beyond the liberal garbage it’s been spoon fed. Who are these people??? It seems that they are either government workers, welfare recipients, political hacks, or zombies incapable of thinking for themselves. What drives these clowns to just want more government??? I am baffled by them.

And by the way, if anyone sucksballs, it’s the one going down on cons, if you know what I mean??? Is that a dimple on your chin, or are you just happy to be here?

Can anyone remember the last president, before Barack Obama, who was strongly identified by his keen intellect?

Nixon?  Whatever his faults, and they were legion, Nixon was pretty famous for being quick, for being able to analyze data, and for, in later years, being three steps ahead of his opposition politically.  Otherwise, even Carter, who ran a damn nuclear submarine, and Clinton, a Rhodes scholar, and the elder Bush attempted to play down their intellect.  I always thought, for instance, that Bush ’41 had the best resume to be president since Eisenhower.

PS  College transcripts! Teleprompters!

And, the conservative turn against intellectualism continues

As a Limbaugh and Beck fan, red, that’s all she has

Why.  The former President was a drunk until 40 and you forgave him.  Perry ran Al Gore’s campaign in ’88, yet you forgive him.  If the 19 year old Obama wrote something like that, why would it matter?  You hate him now (or is it pity?) and you will hate him later.  After all, no one who has witnessed the last three years, believes the jackass who offered to cut SS and Medicare, who chose a Heritage Foundation plan for his healthcare solution, who refused to nationalize banks when economists were telling him to, who propped private industry in GM and Chrysler is a Communist

You may disagree with those policies, but you cannot argue they don’t exist. 

Bob, don’t forget teleprompters.  They are also VERY important

Why is this important?  Why acknowledge stupid accusations from morons.  After all, he was born in Hawaii and he didn’t release his birth certificate.*

* who remembers the very classy Limbaugh arguing that Obama’s per-election trip to Hawaii was not to see his dying grandmother, but an attempt to hide the birth certificate.  She died soon after. Nice work, Rush. No word on whether he made it to the funeral, so he could spit on the casket

You’re an ignorant boob tim. You love to try and change history with your rhetoric for instance

 ”Carter, who ran a damn nuclear submarine,”.

Please prove that totally ignorant statement and lie.  You really don’t know sh*t about History of the people you post about.

I’d really, really like to see your proof.  I know that Carter [never] ran a damn nuclear submarine.  So now it’s time to put up or shut up.

“TMP”

Carter served on surface ships and on diesel-electric submarines in the Atlantic and Pacific fleets. As a junior officer, he completed qualification for command of a diesel-electric submarine. He applied for the US Navy’s fledgling nuclear submarine program run by then Captain Hyman G. Rickover.

Rickover’s demands on his men and machines were legendary, and Carter later said that, next to his parents, Rickover had the greatest influence on him. Carter has said that he loved the Navy, and had planned to make it his career. His ultimate goal was to become Chief of Naval Operations.
Carter felt the best route for promotion was with submarine duty since he felt that nuclear power would be increasingly used in submarines. Carter was based in Schenectady, New York, and working on the nuclear propulsion system for prototype of a new submarine

On December 12, 1952, an accident with the experimental NRX reactor at Atomic Energy of Canada’s Chalk River Laboratories caused a partial meltdown. The resulting explosion caused millions of liters of radioactive water to flood the reactor building’s basement, and the reactor’s core was no longer usable.[15] He was now ordered to Chalk River, joining other Canadian and American service personnel. Carter was the officer in charge of the U.S. team assisting in the shutdown of the Chalk River Nuclear Reactor.[16]

Once they arrived, Carter’s team used a model of the reactor to practice the steps necessary to disassemble the reactor and seal it off. During execution of the actual disassembly each team member, including Carter, donned protective gear, was lowered individually into the
reactor, stayed for only a few seconds at a time to minimize exposure to radiation, and used hand tools to loosen bolts, remove nuts and take the other steps necessary to complete the disassembly process.

During and after his presidency Carter indicated that his experience at Chalk River shaped his views on nuclear power and nuclear weapons, including his decision not to pursue completion of the neutron bomb.[17]

So there, I stand corrected.  He just worked on prototypes of nuclear propulsion and with reactors and repaired damaged ones….how silly of me to only remember the part about Rickover and nuclear submarines.

Still, and maybe you can help me here, how does that make the point I made in the original comment wrong?  It was a descriptive line and, as attorneys would say, was not material to the discussion?

Perhaps, you were unaware how storied Carter’s naval career was and so you looked before you leaped, or, maybe you did know and were just being pedantic because you were wrong on an earlier thread and have a personal jihad against me?

At any rate, I did learn something about my favorite former (living) President:  I thought he was just a run of the will Naval Commander; I had no idea how accomplished he was in engineering and physics!*

*guess that again proves my point about him not exactly emphasizing his academic accomplishments when he ran for President…..

Now you are learning that I’m more interested in FACTS instead of HYPE.

It made your comment wrong because you didn’t know the facts that you were posting. I knew more about Carters Military service than you did because I’m a retired vet and more educated than you are.

I’ve never been wrong in any of my posts to you and you only spew uneducated opinions unsubstantiated with actual fact. You have to be constantly corrected because Fantasies are not FACTS.

You’re a small minded little man who has become blinded by your liberal rhetoric. You quoted a link to support your rant that referenced a number of books as proof and when I asked you if you actually read the books (many of which I have read) you claimed that they were “Bircher” books and you wouldn’t read them.

You’re an idiot, plain and simple. If the comment wasn’t material to the discussion then why did you use it to justify your comment?

“TMP”

That entire rant was so stupid.  YOU posted a list of books which were by Birchers, arguing an untruth that I had already pointed out to you was an untruth.  YOU don’t know what Wikipedia is.  YOU don’t know what Fair Use is (and how Court decisions have upheld Fair USE for actual websites, let alone individual posters).  YOU don’t know that Harvard is different than Harvard Law.  YOU didn’t know who George Marshall was and you mistook FDR for Napoleon.

You are a typical, unexceptional, whiny conservative who cannot argue facts or data and whose proof that the comment was material was “I wanted it to be”.  I swear if I get anymore of you whiny stalkers following me from thread to thread to get in the last word, then I will need to get a filing system to keep you straight.

Take a hint from pablo, so there, just keep saying “Timmah” and calling names.  Oh, and get used to getting your a$$ handed to you. 

The books were from your own link at Wikipedia.

Your garbage is boring me. Prove your ignorant rants or shut up.

Now you are threatening me with violence “Tummuh”
Don’t go there.

I forced you to actually back up your ignorant statement and you can’t handle it so you post this pack of lies.

Go cry to your mommy you ignorant little man. It’s not my fault that you can’t handle someone who knows more than you do.

Go get a “filing system” but it won’t help you tell the truth, you’re too ignorant.

Come and get me little man.

“TMP”

Hey Crybaby, why don’t you post everything you know about George C. Marshall here and I’ll fact check it for you like I did with your post of Jimmy Carter.

OH, don’t plagiarize your material like you did when you posted your retraction about Carter to me.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

“TMP”

It’s obvious to me that you don’t know how Wikipedia works so I’ll give you a lesson on truth in literature works.

Someone posts some information on Wiki like

“George Catlett Marshall (December 31, 1880 – October 16, 1959) was an American military leader, Chief of Staff of the Army, Secretary of State, and the third Secretary of Defense. Once noted as the “organizer of victory” by Winston Churchill for his leadership of the Allied victory in World War II,[3] Marshall served as the United States Army Chief of Staff during the war and as the chief military adviser to President Franklin D. Roosevelt. As Secretary of State, his name was given to the Marshall Plan, for which he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1953.”[4]*

Much of the information came from sources that were not from the poster himself. The little numbers in brackets [1] [2] [3] [4] are directing you to the source of the persons information. Example [1] ^ Marshall Papers Pentagon Office Selected Correspondence Box 69 Folder 18 George C. Marshall Foundation http://www.marshallfoundation.org

example [2] ^ George Catlett Marshall, General of the Army
example [3] ^ “George Catlett Marshall, U.S. Army Chief of Staff, Secretary of State”. CNN. Archived from the original on 2007-11-13. http://web.archive.org/web/20071113061529/http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/kbank/profiles/marshall/. Retrieved 2007-12-12.

Example [4] ^ W. Del Testa, David; Florence Lemoine and John Strickland (2001). Government Leaders, Military Rulers, and Political Activists. pp. 120.

The reason this is done is because it’s intellectually dishonest to quote another’s work without giving those people credit. It’s also used to back up the reasons for your comments, you know verifiable proof of your statement.

You find those sources at the bottom of the wiki page.

Why does Wiki do this, well it’s illegal and dishonest to write anything that has a copy-write (intellectual property) held by another person without giving them credit.

It’s something that a 10th grader should know and it’s also something that any first year College student quickly learns when he presents his papers for review or in argument like you did in your retraction of the Jimmy Carter post you made to me. I instantly recognized where your information was coming from but some people might not have.

You have a nice ignorant day now, ya hear.

“TMP”

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._Marshall

Tommy.  Speaking of dumb articles…