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Joe The Plumber To Lawrence O’Donnell: Are We Going To Talk About Me Or Herman Cain?

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Have you all been missing “Joe the Plumber”? (Just go with it.) Well, you can find him on… MSNBC? Yup, on Thursday night, none other than Lawrence O’Donnell welcomed Joe the Plumber — né Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher — onto his show to discuss the latter’s plans for a House run in Ohio.

RELATED: Joe The Plumber Is Back And Filing For A House Run In Ohio

The two kicked things off by talking about Herman Cain‘s 9-9-9 plan. O’Donnell asked Wurzelbacher (“I don’t mean it as a ‘gotcha’ question.”) whether he knew the median income in the district he would like to represent — which he did. O’Donnell followed up by noting that, under Cain’s plan, people making around the median annual income in that particular district — around $43,000 — would be paying 2 to 4 thousand dollars more in taxes. When asked whether this impacts Wurzelbacher’s support for the plan at all, he simply said that “experts” on either side are each saying different things.

Fair enough! So. Does he want to abolish Medicare and Social Security?

Are we going to talk about what I want to do with the Great Lakes or are we going to talk about Herman Cain? [Ed. note: Go Joe!] You can have him back on if you’d like, Mr. O’Donnell. [...] Do I want to? Is that what you’re asking me? No, God no. I want to protect Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid. Those promises have been made and they need to be kept.

Later, he said that one reason he’s running is “jobs, man.” “We have to have jobs in this area. Union, non-union alike, we need jobs,” before adding that he wants to “promote American people over party politics.”

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  • Anonymous

    Joe The Plumber To Lawrence O’Donnell: Are We Going To Talk About Me Or Herman Cain?

    Yesterday
    Joe was such an easy game to play
    oh yesterday

  • Tim Tebow

    Joe the Plumber?

    I want that lady who called Obama a Muslim at that McCain rally to run for something.

    Myrna the CrazyLady ’12!!!

  • Roger_Fails

    This guy is a train wreck. 

  • Mencius

    Is there a single politician in the entire United States who doesn’t say something like “I want to serve America without comprising my principles because I love freedom and jobs and our troops above party politics in this broken corrupt system that I’m here to clean up for real American families and their kids who should grow up in future where everyone who deserves to can get a job?” 

    Because statements like that are utterly meaningless. I’d rather hear some dry run down of specific policies with evidence backing it up. 

    I want a real American plumber fixing America, crawling under America’s sink and letting out a not-too-discreet fart. 

  • Mencius

    Is there a single politician in the entire United States who doesn’t say something like “I want to serve America without comprising my principles because I love freedom and jobs and our troops above party politics in this broken corrupt system that I’m here to clean up for real American families and their kids who should grow up in future where everyone who deserves to can get a job?” 

    Because statements like that are utterly meaningless. I’d rather hear some dry run down of specific policies with evidence backing it up. 

    I want a real American plumber fixing America, crawling under America’s sink and letting out a not-too-discreet fart. 

  • Anonymous

    Nice. Lol

  • Anonymous

    I always wonder if this moron ever learned that revenue is not income (for tax purposes).

  • http://twitter.com/gadfly666 gadfly666

    Ah, Joe the Plumber, a low IQ Tea Bagger who is now planning a House run in Ohio.

    Ohio is a state that has elected a former Fox News anchor, John Kasich, to the office of Governor. And then there is the corrupt senator Ben Nelson who keeps winning in Ohio.

    So I have a feeling that the poor conservatives of Ohio will vote for low IQ Joe so that he can fight the fight to keep the taxes on billionaires as low as possible.

  • http://MsUnderestimated.com MsUnderestimated

    Yeah, I agree, too… O’Donnell is an idiot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Skinner/100000598231323 Brian Skinner

    Lawrence is a racist.   Never asked Joe what he did for civil rights.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Hart/100001365605444 Michelle Hart

    The dumb commie forgot to ask Joe if he was authentic to…. Get Sharpton on the phone STAT!!

  • Anonymous

    I’ve seen Joe speak at two events, and the guy is just not articulate in the least. And after trying for so many years to turn his 15 mins of fame into something, it seems like public office shouldn’t come in second place to the illlusive professional pundit spot.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Only if she still has that red sweat shirt and that funky ‘doo!

  • JimR

    I agree with that!
    I can’t understand why Joe or anyone else would ever agree to be on his
    stupid low rated program!

  • Anonymous

    Joe Wurzelbacher will be an energetic, effective Congressman. MSNBC failed in it’s salient mission to explore Mr. Wurzelbacher’s position on gay marriage. Is Lawrence O’Donnell homophobic?

  • Emilie56

    Good grief, is that man back?  

  • Anonymous

    On what do you base your opinion that Joe will be an energetic, effective Congressman?  I’m not trying to take a shot at you or trying to start a fight, I’m just curious as to why you think Joe is qualified or has the experience to be an effective Congressman and what do you base your opinion on. 

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Joe the Plummer was to intelligent for O’Donnell so that’s why Low-rinse wanted to talk about somebody that wasn’t there!

  • Anonymous

    Lawrence O’Donnell to Joe: “Why is Herman Cain a racist and why don’t you condemn him for being one?”

  • gordonbloyershow

    Good grief, are you stupid?

  • IJustH8theFax

    Fact: The voices in my head make me type this stuff! Dumb misspellings and all!

  • gordonbloyershow

    He has had a real job and he has not spent time being a community organizer. Oh, and he is not a democrat. That makes him qualified to be a better congressman than any socialist democrat.

  • TruDat

    Looks like you have a stalker, which means you’re getting under the clowns skin.  Good Work!

  • TruDat

    It always amazed me how the hateful left always demonized this guy when all he did was ask candidate Obama a question during a campaign stop.  Because Obama was caught in a brief moment of honesty, revealing his desire to steal others’ money, the left demonized a private citizen.

    But hate is the lefts’ stock and trade.

  • Exgoper

    Joe the Plumber is a dim bulb. Have you actually seen any interviews with this guy? He’s Palin in pants. No depth, no critical thinking, just pablum.

  • Anonymous

    First of all, not talking to you,secondly your ignorance is displayed in your post.

  • Anonymous

    I think his watch must be broken and he doesn’t realize his 15 minutes of fame expired years ago.

  • Anonymous

    Palin in pants…..LOL  That’s a perfect description.

  • Yoodoo2

    LOL using the wrong TOO before intelligent. 

  • Yoodoo2

    Do you feel any irony dripping from your skin when you hate on others for being haters?

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Folks, it looks as if we’ve set a new low for ‘failure to use Spell Check. It’s bad enough that half or more here are spelling the word ‘too’, as in ‘also’ as “too”, but here comes just4thefax, who not only joins on this trend of stupid, but topping that, having been GIVEN the spelling of ‘plumber’ in advance – SEVERAL TIMES – still somehow manages to blow it – which shows he is so oblvious to his ignorance, he makes Joe the Plumber look like Chauncey Gardner.

    Remember “Chauncey Gardner”, from the movie “Being There”, starring the late Peter Sellers? Sellers played a mentally challenged man – someone who not too (sic) many years ago we would refer to with the socially insensitive elementary school insult, a “REE-tard” – whose job was to care for the garden of very old rich person who lived in Washington D.C. When the old rich person died, the Sellers character was told he had to leave, but he could take some of the old rich man’s clothing, which were mostly out-dated but very expensive suits. So the Sellers character, having nowhere to go and no clue what else to do, packs a suitcase with such suits, and starts walking about the streets of downtown Washington – where, because he has no clue about traffic rules, he gets struck by a car, owned by another very old rich person, a sort of Clark Clifford-type political amanuensis played by the late great American actor Melvyn Douglas, who then takes the Peter Sellers character home with him, to be cared for by, among others, his wife, played by Shirley MacLaine.

    When the Peter Sellers character is asked his name, he SAYS “Chance, the gardner”, but with his accent, the Douglas and MacLaine characters HEAR “Chauncey Gardner”. Whenever Chance, or “Chauncey”, is asked anything at all challenging, he always always always resorts to the only thing he understands, which is the garden he cared for. But since Chance looks so dignified and smart in those clothes he took from his late employer’s closet, he is granted the key conceit of the plot: that he is speaking in metaphors, parables, similes and (This is for you, Hank Williams, Jr.) analogies.

    The joke is that, while everyone in Chauncey’s movie world thinks he’s a financial guru like Warren Buffett, only we “happy few” in the audience know the truth: that he is in fact Chance, a mentally retarded gardener.

    When we first heard about Joe the Plumber, the gimmick was intended to play off the children’s cartoon character, Bob the Builder (Likewise, as they tried to reach out to Latino voters, in 2008 Sarah Palin and John McCain later brought us “Tito the Builder’.). But it also works to play off Being There: This man who to us LOOKS like he could be a plumber, then tells Candidate Obama he IS a plumber (which was a lie), and then tells us AND Obama, and the world, that he is “Joe” (which was a lie: until he said that, he was always known to his friends as ‘Sam’ – but, of course, ‘Joe the Plumber’ sounds so much better than ‘Sam the Republican Party field operative’).

    What works even better off the Being There joke, and which surprises me that Alex missed, was the slightly earlier segment in the Lawrence O’Donnell show where he showed Herman Cain in a press gaggle, in Baltimore I think, ‘explaining’ or ‘explicating’ or laying out confidently at least something about his “9-9-9 Plan”, in such a loud, pedantic, measured voice, it ALMOST sounded like what we normally call ‘details’. And then, the punchline: a reporter asked Cain to explain how the part of his plan that Cain says applies to replace all provisions in the U.S. Tax Code on corporate deductions would deal with a very simple scenario of an American manufacturer selling a computer with some non-American built parts in it,   and in response to this question, Herman Cain – or should I say, Herm the Candidate – said: 

    “I have no idea”.

    This provides a terrible indictment of Republicans, the Republican party, the Republican primary process, and us as group. It’s bad enough that this fraudulent low-level political operative tried to foist himself off  on us as “Joe the Plumber”, but then so did McCain and Palin and the Republican party try to do it again and again throughout the 2008 campaign – and now he and they are trying to do it AGAIN.

    But they’ve gone bigger: now we have Herm the Candidate, who is no more informed or astute on financial and economic issues than was Chauncey Gardner – who was really Chance, the mentally retarded gardener.

    P.S. O’Donnell also did a bit on the so-called economist (“Rich the Economist”), the so-called “genius” dweeb bean-counter from Cleveland who came up with Herm the Candidate’s 9-9-9 Plan – as the Huffington Post discovered, from a video life simulator game.

    Do you think we are all being had? You have no idea.

  • TruDat

    Back at ya.

    I guess that’s your way of saying I’m right and you have nothing to refute it.  I accept your surrender.

  • MontyPyth0n

    Sounds like you are describing Obama…….

  • MontyPyth0n

    And yet you probably voted for Obama who is currently saying the exact same things in regards to being above parties……..

  • MontyPyth0n

    And yet you probably voted for Obama who is currently saying the exact same things in regards to being above parties……..

  • Exgoper

    Yes, indeed — “Rich the Economist,” Cain’s lead economic advisor, isn’t an economist at all but is actually an accountant from Ohio. I suppose this means that Joe the Plumber (Plummer?) is destined for Secretary of the Interior, Thomas the Train for Secretary of Transportation and Sarah the Barracuda as Secretary of “Labor.”

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Fool.

    He was not a private actor: he was a political operative. He spent the rest of the 2008 campaign being introduced as a caricature on the McCain-Palin campaign. He lied about being a plumber. He lied about his name. He is NOW running as a candidate for the House – as a REPUBLICAN.

    Fool.

    What Obama did was try to explain to him, based on the false scenario that he had falsely given to Obama, calmly and completely, how the deductions and incentives of the economic plan Obama expected to press on Congress would work, on which he was polite and cordial and helpful and CORRECT throughout.

    Fool.

    What do you think the Occupy Wall Street movement is about?  Obama was the only candidate in 2008 who even barely addressed income inequality in this country – something that has destroyed the American Dream and social contract.

    Fool.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Fool.

  • TruDat

    Testy little liberal without a clue. 

    Prove.

    He was a political operative.

    Prove.

    A false scenario was given to Obama. (the rest of your rant is irrelevant nonsense)

    Prove.

    That the Wall Street mob has anything whatsoever to do with income inequality.  Liberal hero Steve Jobs is proof that you can succeed in this society if you work hard and have a clue; regardless of how many times you may have failed.  Persistence and self-reliance and dedication will lead to success.

    Now crawl back to your bong, you clueless little twit.

  • TruDat

    Jag.

  • Exgoper

    Neanderthal.

  • Exgoper

    Please climb back into your swamp. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B5344MYI6BXUL36ADKK3JBTPJA GJPinks

    You did too!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B5344MYI6BXUL36ADKK3JBTPJA GJPinks

    Sounds fair after putting a tax cheat in charge of the Treasury.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B5344MYI6BXUL36ADKK3JBTPJA GJPinks

    Yes you are.

  • Rex the Wonder God

    Fool.

  • Anonymous

    Like how most Americans voted for or supported Obama because he had fancy Red White and Blue posters with HOPE and CHANGE written underneath. You were prob one of them. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B5344MYI6BXUL36ADKK3JBTPJA GJPinks

    He was a plumber, you must not understand trade union rules.
    Obama couldn’t run a gun store selling guns illegally to drug cartels profitably, let alone a food chain or a government.
    If your income is ‘inequal’, give have to someone who is poorer than you.
    OWS is about communists and anarchists trying to destroy the world. Some people just like to see the world burn.  Where do you fine the “social contract” in the Constitution?

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    I’m surprised no one has mentioned to Joe (the plumber) that his 15 minutes of fame has already been spent!!

  • TruDat

    Your vocabulary is impressive for a left-wing lout.

  • TruDat

    Looks like little Rex has his term paper done before the weekend.  Get a cookie Rex.

  • TruDat

    No different than a tax cheat as Treasury Secretary.

  • Mencius

    You guys really are kind of pathetic, no? I said pretty clearly that I thought every single politician in the country does that–blue, red, green or whacko Tea Party–and yet you see that as opportunity to put words in my mouth to set up a straw man. Somehow, it all goes back to Obama, no?  

    “The sky is blue.” “I bet Obama told you that, commie.” 

  • Anonymous

    You get deeper as time goes on!

  • Mencius

    RyGuy, see my reply to MontyPython above and just add the word “,chump” at the end so you’ll feel like I’m addressing you. 

  • Anonymous

    Good movie!

  • Anonymous

    “Hateful left”,……”revealing Obama’s desire to steal others’ money”,…”hateful”  hypocrisy!

  • Anonymous

    “That Wall St mob has nothing to do with income inequality”

    Prove

    See how that works?

  • Anonymous

    You don’t have to have an IQ, policy, or a clue to run on the radical right! All you have do is say,… rabble rabble, American, rabble rabble “tea party”, rabble rabble, patriot, rabble rabble, hate Obama and you’re “in”!

  • Exgoper

    Your vocabulary isn’t even impressive for a low information moron. 

  • Rio

    That’s probably why O’Donnell had him on his show, yeah, that’s it.

  • Anonymous

    It’s amazing how easily entertained you folks on the left are.  You probably adore the three stooges (Barack, Harry, and Nancy). 

  • Anonymous

    MM, I’m not aware of the rule that says you can pick who you are talking to.  Where is that written.  As to your question, as for experience, I have a feeling you voted for Obama who had zero executive experience and not much legislative experience.  So why are you asking about it now?

  • Anonymous

    Nonsense. 

  • Anonymous

    Wow- now you are afraid of Joe the Plumber!

    You are a total mess.

  • Anonymous

    Hey, Larry, why did you levae out of the video clip the part wahy Barry says he wants to spread the wealth around?

    LOL

    You are  a joke , Larry!

    Joe nailed you to the wall!

  • Pablo

    Folks, it looks as if we’ve set a new low for ‘failure to use Spell
    Check. It’s bad enough that half or more here are spelling the word
    ‘too’, as in ‘also’ as “too”,

    1. That is the proper spelling.

    2. Spell check would not flag it if it weren’t.

    fail + fail = FAIL!!!!!

  • Pablo

    What was Obama doing on the front lawn of a Republican political operative?

  • Pablo

    rabble rabble social justice rabble rabble income inequality rabble rabble Republicans are evil rabble rabble the little guy rabble rabble fair share rabble rabble RACIST!!!

  • Zermatt2

    Joe the Stooge.

  • JoeP-55-skins

    Exactamundo?  I’m glad you noted the spread-the-wealth part of the clip omitted by O’Donnell, ’cause i thought i just somehow had missed it.

    Joe made Crazy Larry look like the ass he is.  This is one of O’Donnell’s favorite games to those he doesn’t like; bring somone on ostensibly for an interview of a specific content and then change the topic to the gotcha questions.  I was impressed with ‘ole Joe; he handled himself real well.

    If the extreme liberals and conservatives would only open their eyes and realize that the likes of Crazy Larry, Hannity and these other nuts are good for entertainment only and not to be taken seriously.  Oh well, one can hope . . .

  • Rio

    According to what’s going on in Ohio, perhaps Joe will be joining a winning team, looks like those poor conservatives are getting some jobs now that Kasich, a former Fox “host” not anchor, is governor.

    http://columbusregion.com/news-and-media/in-the-media

    So much said about Fox, from the “mooks” that can’t come to terms with how it’s run, can’t tell the difference between news programming and commentary, anchor and hosts, etc., I suppose they will just blame Fox for their ignorance, too.

  • Anonymous

    I’m still trying to figure out why people still come to these forums to argue when a site like Dailykos.com is around. This is like an elementary school playground. Not that it matters, but I think i’m done with reading Mediate forums. Good luck pulling each others hair.

  • Anonymous

    thanks
    where you been?

  • http://twitter.com/runforfun54 Ilene K

    Sorry, Plumber Boy.  Lawrence’s show, Lawrence’s questions. Your views on 999 are relevant. Can’t deal with the heat? Get out of the kitchen.  You sound like a deadbeat dad joe- walsh–in-training

  • Anonymous

    As a proud liberal…Joe actually handled himself pretty good. It’s about time some of these RWers started coming at least halfway prepared with some facts.

    That race should be interesting.

  • Exgoper

    Oh no, you’re back to being delusional and infantile. And you had made such good progress on that thread about Perry.

  • Exgoper

    The reason he probably didn’t run that part of the clip is because “spread the wealth around” isn’t a dog whistle on MSNBC the same way it is on Fox, where it’s thought of as coded muslimspeak for “socialism.”

    That’s the difference between an actual NEWS channel and a PROPAGANDA channel.

  • http://twitter.com/jannyfayray Janice

    Before John Kasich was a “Fox News anchor” he was a congressman.

  • Angelo Rombola

    Joe Wurzelbacher is NOT an attorney. To me that is his greatest asset. Look at our Washington legislators-
    80%+ are lawyers. And then look at the shape the country is in. ‘Nuff said.

  • Anonymous

    Joe never wrote a book detailing how he didn’t get involved in the civil rights movement.

  • Anonymous

    Joe never spoke at a function proclaiming to be a “real” white man or questioned  President Obama’s lack of a true black experience in America. 

  • Exgoper

    I don’t get this obsession for nominating the common man. The Founding Fathers and many of our earliest presidents were not “common men” in any sense and they did just fine. They were lawyers and constitutional lawyers and scientists and mastered languages and were very well educated.

    The Republican party now seems to see extraordinary talent and intellect as elitist. It’s no wonder they’d embrace a lightweight like Joe the Plumber.

  • Roger_Fails

    Just to get this straight — are you telling us that you think the just4thefax moron used the proper form of the word “to” in his post?

  • Anonymous

    The rule is, if I ask a specific person a specific question about how THAT person feels, I’m looking for an answer from THAT person.  Sure, in a public forum anybody can throw their two cents in but it doesn’t answer for the person in question does it? Only carltonwest can explain his position.  Is that simple enough for you to understand goodspkr?  Now I’ll sit back and wait for Pablo to tell me if YOU understand that simple concept.

  • Anonymous

    Excellent post.  I’m just sorry it will go over the heads of the teabaggers. Thanks for coming up with the “Rich the Economist” and “Herm the Candidate” tags, I’ll get a chuckle every time I see them now!

    btw…. “Being There” is an excellent yet highly underrated movie everyone should see. 

  • Anonymous

    Candidate,… other than that I got a kick out of it!

  • Anonymous

    Case in point.  Like I said Rex, as good as your post is, it will go over the heads of the teabaggers as evidenced by goodspkr.

  • Anonymous

    ? “Joe nailed him to the wall”! You have to watch,… this clip, this one!

  • Anonymous

    Errrr,…. he showed the clip! Gotcha questions, “do you live in your district”? ” do you want to keep SS and Medicare”? Wow, hard gotcha questions! I guess he does need a job!

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t anyone tell joe he’s against unions? ya know being thugs and all?

  • Anonymous

    Ohio will get what they deserve! The only good thing that came out of Ohio is I75

  • Anonymous

    I thought the three stooges were Cantor, Boner and Rush!

  • Anonymous

    Thank God for Joe.  The epitome of Republicultism.  Yup. Vote, Rancid Masses, vote!

  • Bob

    Didn’t Samuel the Fake Plumber’s 15 minutes run out a while back?
    Why is the GOP so obsessed with bringing a reality TV-esque aesthetic to our government?

  • Bob

    and  maybe they can also run that crazy Birther lady who was shreiking and waving her plastic-bagged birth certificate at Mike Castle’s town hall.

  • Bob

    I live in Ohio. The economy still sucks and Kasich’s approval is in the toilet.

  • Anonymous

    regressive simpletons

    Joe the Plumber
    Tito the Builder
    999

  • Rio

    You know what it takes to get into politics and run for Congress?  Courage, perserverance and a lot of hard work.  Even congressmen that have been in and have their ground game laid out have to take the slings and arrows and plod on.  They are not some internet junkie swinging punches in the air and not having to answer for their nonsense, they put themselves out there.

    It wasn’t the GOP that put him front and center, it was Obama trapsing across his front lawn, that stimulated the media to go on the attack and disrupt his private life.  If he thinks he has something to give to the country, at least he’s out there trying and Ohio voters will decide if what he’s offering will help their state.   He has a primary opponent, so, the GOP isn’t doing anything to promote him if he should win his primary election, then they would support him, so anyone telling you the GOP is promoting him is lying.

  • Rio

    Apparently, from the many Ohio articles published at that site, they don’t agree.  I also have friends in Ohio and they are heartened with what’s going on out there.  You really deserve our Governor, Quinn, then you’d be really happy, he’s a failure, but he’s a democrat.

  • Tim Tebow

    He MIGHT know how to soldier pipes or fix a toilet…

  • Tim Tebow

    “solder”

  • Anonymous

    Between working and fending off the in-laws, my playtime comes in spurts. This blog is addictive, and if I’m not careful, I’ll become a mediaite addict. We’ll, it’s either that or kill the in-laws. Something’s got to give.

  • Anonymous

    I know what you mean
    but
    you won’t got to jail here

  • Glenn Schmoll

    To assure he keeps on a roll I gave Joe the Plumber just the right plug he deserves in my youtube video SINGING TOILET MAN to stay in the running and take the seat in the Ohio 9th District. While he is flushed with his victory, I will sing at his installation if he will plunge in and splurge for my expenses

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