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Jon Stewart: Demagogue Or The Most Rational Man On Television?

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The Daily Show‘s Jon Stewart is being credited by many for igniting the media and public outcry that ultimately resulted in passage of the 9/11 First Responders Bill. However, not everyone is praising the comedic host, as John McCormack of The Weekly Standard suggests Stewart’s crusade for legislation and self-appointment as the “arbiter of what political beliefs are ‘insane’” have made Stewart more of a demagogue than a respected journalist. No matter what you call Stewart, his growing influence is proving hard for anyone to ignore.

The main critique of Stewart is that he didn’t have Republicans who objected to the bill on his show to explain their rationale. Whether this proves Stewart eschews rational argument in favor of just appealing to emotions is a bit of a stretch. Even more troublesome is the notion that if every side of an argument, no matter how ridiculous, is not presented with equal time then journalism has failed. And possibly the most unjustified, is criticizing Stewart for not being a fair news program, as if no other media outlet exists for Republicans to get out their message and when Stewart himself bills The Daily Show as merely a comedy show on the sidelines making fun of everyone.

While Stewart did not give the Republicans a chance to argue their view, even if he had, they hardly had anything worth hearing, as they were inexplicably “skeptical” of the First Responders Bill. Their skepticism of a hugely expensive bill is not what was irrational, but their response of wanting to wait to argue it more next year certainly was, since as Stewart commendably demonstrated, many of the First Responders need health coverage, and certainty, now. Rather than allowing themselves to be painted as heartless grinches, if Republicans had immediately offered up a competing, and much less expensive bill, they could have been viewed as benevolent and budget-conscious.

With Stewart, and others like Fox’s Shepard Smith, shaming Republicans into supporting a compromised bill, the criticism aimed at Stewart is ultimately misplaced. Really The Weekly Standard should be criticizing Republican leaders for failing to realize that with Stewart watching them, no longer can they get away with not providing a rational defense for their arguments, and ultimately such forced accountability is proof that Stewart, and his brand of journalism, is indeed working.

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  • skyfet

    Rational. I’d say.
    By the way, how come you compare him to a Demagogue (e.g. Beck).

  • Big Eddie

    Stewart is only influential with slow witted liberals , who think that they’re watching the news .
    His huge gang of writers must be convinced they are doing important ” comedy ” . They’re not .

  • http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

    Not hugely expensive. $4.7 billion of $3 trillion (gov’t expenditures) is a very small #. $4.7 billion of $13 trillion (GDP) even smaller. Journalism fails when they cite only absolute values without any context. Please stop.

  • cjd ohio 1

    he is not a journalist, he is a comic, end of story

  • valkyrie101

    Big Eddie said:
    Stewart is only influential with slow witted liberals , who think that they’re watching the news .His huge gang of writers must be convinced they are doing important ” comedy ” . They’re not .

    And what then is your idea of “important” comedy, Glenn Beck?

  • Ricia

    “No matter what you call Stewart, his growing influence is proving hard for anyone to ignore.”

    I have no problem ignoring him

  • Pablo

    While Stewart did not give the Republicans a chance to argue their view, even if he had, they hardly had anything worth hearing, as they were inexplicably “skeptical” of the First Responders Bill.

    Is that right, Mark?

    In the end, both sides agreed to reduce the bill’s cost to $4.3 billion from $6.2 billion, and add provisions to study whether the program would be better run through veterans hospitals, as well as a number of other last-minute tweaks.

    They also changed the method of paying for the program, removing a tax on foreign corporations and instead imposing a fee on companies in certain countries that sell goods and services to the U.S. government overseas.

    Mr. Coburn called it “a good deal that takes care of the people we need to take care of.”

    Once the deal was struck, a voice vote in the Senate Wednesday lasted less than a minute and no senators opposed it.

    It seems that there was a way to get Republicans unanimously on board. I’m glad someone listened long enough to figure out what it was.

  • Pablo

    Errr…Matt. Sorry about that. It’s inexplicable.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    If Stewart is a demagogue then somebody PLEASE tell me what Glenn Beck is, I beg of you. The same people who complain about “emotions” are the same ones that are crying when Beck and Boehner are crying.

  • hanniballa

    John Stewart is a palace guard. He has no integrity, excerpt when he thinks Obama is not progressive enough. Remember when he took down that idiot, Kramer from CNBC. Go re-watch that, you can see how little Stewart enjoys it, its like watching someone hemorrhage integrity.

  • Thelonious Funk

    Did John McCormack write an article against John Stewart without offering someone else’s opinion to support him? Sounds like demagoguery to me.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Pablo said:
    It seems that there was a way to get Republicans unanimously on board. I’m glad someone listened long enough to figure out what it was.

    Not quite, 26 of them still voted against the measure.

  • Nacho

    The weekly standard piece brings up the issue that The Daily Show didn’t have Senator Coburn on to explain his position and given the other side of the story. Being an occasional viewer of the show, I do not get the impression that they are not willing to give anybody a platform to explain their views.

    Was he not invited to the show? It seems to me that it would be a no brainer to have him on, ratings gold.

    I know Shep Smith at Fox news said he invited Republican senators on and they declined.

    John Stewart has become a social activist and the fact that people confuse him as being a journalist and the one true rational voice in a cable junkyard means he is doing something right

  • Pablo

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Not quite, 26 of them still voted against the measure.

    Not in the Senate, which is where the bill was stuck. No one voted no.

  • Scott_in_MI

    If anyone deserved credit for the bill’s passage, it’s o`Reilly. Stewart was yapping about the failure to pass this bill for a week and nothing changed, however, when The Factor got on the case, the bill passed.

    Our esteemed congressional representatives understand that viewers of Stewart are the group of voters who vote less than anyone else…furthermore, those Stewart viewers who vote will forget about the 9-11 Bill by the time the next election comes around.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    “The main critique of Stewart is that he didn’t have Republicans who objected to the bill on his show to explain their rationale.”

    It finally passed by unanimous voice vote. The R’s who previously had objected to the bill were just cold-hearted, un-American assholes, “Dr.” Coburn first and foremost among them.

    After seeing Maddow’s interview with Stewart, it was strange to see him get into the game, to jump off the performing stage and become an advocate. It was also the most effective advocacy I’ve seen in all my life.

  • Atticus Draco

    Scott_in_MI said:
    If anyone deserved credit for the bill’s passage, it’s o`Reilly. Stewart was yapping about the failure to pass this bill for a week and nothing changed, however, when The Factor got on the case, the bill passed.

    Our esteemed congressional representatives understand that viewers of Stewart are the group of voters who vote less than anyone else…furthermore, those Stewart viewers who vote will forget about the 9-11 Bill by the time the next election comes around.

    as i predicted by the way
    RIGHT here in these glorious walls of MEDIAite
    PAPA BEAR GOT THE PULL!

  • dummy123

    Stewart gets to the scoring drive 1st and goal from the one inch line and you want to give him all the credit??
    Holy flucking shit….this site is getting ponderous!
    Jon is a great Monday morning quarterback…….lets try putting him in the game on SUNDAY!!!!

  • Nacho

    Scott_in_MI said:
    If anyone deserved credit for the bill’s passage, it’s o`Reilly. Stewart was yapping about the failure to pass this bill for a week and nothing changed, however, when The Factor got on the case, the bill passed.

    Didn’t Bill O’Reilly give the senate a free pass and say just come back next year and give us something?

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/oreilly-on-911-first-responders-bill-it-will-pass-just-may-take-a-little-longer/

  • printbrat

    Jon Stewart is the first to say that he is a comedian and not a journalist. Now he’s being attacked by journalists because he’s doing their job too.

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    printbrat said:
    Jon Stewart is the first to say that he is a comedian and not a journalist. Now he’s being attacked by journalists because he’s doing their job too.

    A million times better too sadly…

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    Wow, I actually agree with something that a Mediaite columnist has written.

  • Obeezy

    Jon Stewart: Demagogue Or The Most Rational Man On Television?

    Thats like saying Santa Clause: Fictional character or Wealthiest man on the planet? He is about as rational crack addict in rehab

  • chaser

    I heard a lot of bashing and scorn when Stewart proposed the Rally to Restore Sanity with media on both sides of the political fence dismissing it as something that would be over before it began and that no one would take it seriously. The numbers proved them wrong that time and they will again next time they underestimate Stewart and the amount of people that consider him to be a lone voice in the political insanity. I went to the rally in my hometown and there were THOUSANDS of people there that couldn’t make it to Washington. RtRS were held all around the world. The estimates of the Washington DC rally puts the attendance anywhere from 200,000 to 450,000. The picture here shows that he’s turning into an important voice in the political spectrum.

    http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/11/01/alg_resize_colbert_stewart_crowd.jpg

    Love him or hate him, dismiss him at your peril.

    Coburn should be run out of office on a rail for holding the first responders hostage. Kudos to Shepard Smith for singling him out and pointing a spotlight on that idiot.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Scott_in_MI said:
    If anyone deserved credit for the bill’s passage, it’s o`Reilly. Stewart was yapping about the failure to pass this bill for a week and nothing changed, however, when The Factor got on the case, the bill passed.

    Our esteemed congressional representatives understand that viewers of Stewart are the group of voters who vote less than anyone else…furthermore, those Stewart viewers who vote will forget about the 9-11 Bill by the time the next election comes around.

    My bullshit sense are in full alarm blaze!!!!!

  • James Nelson

    Pablo said:
    Is that right, Mark? It seems that there was a way to get Republicans unanimously on board. I’m glad someone listened long enough to figure out what it was.

    Uh, the majority of the Republican voted against the bill. Shameful, anti-American demigods who are in it only for the money (remember the top 2%?).

  • TangledThorns

    Stewart is irrelevant, without his 25 writers he is nothing. Look at his rally, made no impact on the election. LOSER!

  • Scott_in_MI

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    My bullshit sense are in full alarm blaze!!!!!

    Where am I wrong?

  • Scott_in_MI

    Nacho said:
    Didn’t Bill O’Reilly give the senate a free pass and say just come back next year and give us something? http://www.mediaite.com/tv/oreilly-on-911-first-responders-bill-it-will-pass-just-may-take-a-little-longer/

    In Bill O ‘s opinion, the bill should have waited, but his logic told him the bill would pass soon.

  • Scott_in_MI

    GlennBeckReview said:
    The R’s who previously had objected to the bill were just cold-hearted, un-American assholes, “Dr.” Coburn first and foremost among them.

    GBR, perhaps you can find someone who can find a bombshell about Coburn…kind of like that promised story on Beck which would ruin his career.

  • Nacho

    Scott_in_MI said:
    In Bill O ’s opinion, the bill should have waited, but his logic told him the bill would pass soon.

    LOL

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Scott_in_MI said:
    Where am I wrong?

    For starters O’Reilly wouldn’t have got into it were it not for Stewart. O’Reilly was NOT the driving force in the media behind it. It started with Stewart, O’Reilly mentioned it, then Shep Smith became the main force in Stewart’s absence. Who did Shep Smith give credit to? STEWART.
    Secondly, O’Reilkly actually wanted them to take their time with the bill as Nacho notes. READ UP!

  • Arthur (Not a Political Comic)

    James Nelson said:
    Uh, the majority of the Republican voted against the bill. Shameful, anti-American demigods who are in it only for the money (remember the top 2%?).

    Actually, I don’t think they are in it for the money. At least, not right now. I think they are in it so that Obama doesn’t get re-elected. For that to happen, no positive legislation can get passed. The obstruction is based not so much on whether they believe in it or not, it’s more that anything that turns out good or can actually help the people of the United States cannot get passed. They wanted to wait for next year, because then, it looks like the Republicans were responsible, not the Democrats. Again, it’s a game, the sad thing is that they are playing with actual people’s lives. And that’s why I hate politics. We have to suffer for the next two years just so they can get their guy into the White House.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Scott_in_MI said:
    In Bill O ’s opinion, the bill should have waited, but his logic told him the bill would pass soon.

    Your bullshit powers…THEY’RE OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMHTK15Pik

  • stoogedudes

    Big Eddie said:
    Stewart is only influential with slow witted liberals , who think that they’re watching the news .His huge gang of writers must be convinced they are doing important ” comedy ” . They’re not .

    Despite what some polls might suggest, I’d say the overwhelming majority of people who watch his show don’t get their news from him. They have to know the news already to understand what he is talking about. They are doing important comedy, and without Jon Stewart’s critique, this wouldn’t have gotten the coverage it has gotten.

    Scott_in_MI said:
    If anyone deserved credit for the bill’s passage, it’s o`Reilly. Stewart was yapping about the failure to pass this bill for a week and nothing changed, however, when The Factor got on the case, the bill passed.

    Yes, but Stewart brought the story to the forefront of everyone’s attention, including O’Reilly’s. So, yes, he does deserve credit. If it wasn’t for him, there wouldn’t have been so much pressure to act on the bill, especially as the lame duck session comes to a close.

    printbrat said:
    Jon Stewart is the first to say that he is a comedian and not a journalist. Now he’s being attacked by journalists because he’s doing their job too.

    Exactly.

    chaser said:
    I heard a lot of bashing and scorn when Stewart proposed the Rally to Restore Sanity with media on both sides of the political fence dismissing it as something that would be over before it began and that no one would take it seriously. The numbers proved them wrong that time and they will again next time they underestimate Stewart and the amount of people that consider him to be a lone voice in the political insanity. I went to the rally in my hometown and there were THOUSANDS of people there that couldn’t make it to Washington. RtRS were held all around the world. The estimates of the Washington DC rally puts the attendance anywhere from 200,000 to 450,000. The picture here shows that he’s turning into an important voice in the political spectrum. http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/11/01/alg_resize_colbert_stewart_crowd.jpg Love him or hate him, dismiss him at your peril. Coburn should be run out of office on a rail for holding the first responders hostage. Kudos to Shepard Smith for singling him out and pointing a spotlight on that idiot.

    Couldn’t agree more.

    TangledThorns said:
    Stewart is irrelevant, without his 25 writers he is nothing. Look at his rally, made no impact on the election. LOSER!

    Tell that to the massive coverage and the over 200,000 people who showed up to his rally. He is NOT irrelevant, at all. Do you also realize, he is one of his 25 writers? NOT A LOSER!

  • moriarty70

    TangledThorns said:
    Stewart is irrelevant, without his 25 writers he is nothing. Look at his rally, made no impact on the election. LOSER!

    Yeah, go figure, his rally about the media’s adoption of political rhetoric had no effect on the election. Again, even more blunt, the rally wasn’t about the election and was not meant to influence it.

  • http://www.karlspensen.blogspot.com Karl Spensen

    Obeezy said:
    Jon Stewart: Demagogue Or The Most Rational Man On Television? Thats like saying Santa Clause: Fictional character or Wealthiest man on the planet? He is about as rational crack addict in rehab

    HahahaHAHahahaHAHAHAHahah your picture is of a BLACK CRACKHEAD!!!!!!!!!!1111 HahahahaHAhahahaHAHahah just like our BLACK MUSLIN PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!1111 HahahAHAhahahha who says that we Right-Thinking Patriots are RACIST and IGNORANT?!?!?1111 SHUTTUP, libs!!!!!111

  • http://www.karlspensen.blogspot.com Karl Spensen

    TangledThorns said:
    Stewart is irrelevant, without his 25 writers he is nothing. Look at his rally, made no impact on the election. LOSER!

    YEAH he has WRITERS!!!!!!111 I don’t know WHY I say this every time I’m bashing Jonny Liebowitz, but I DO because apparently we’re SUPPOSED TO!!!!!111 Writers writers writers WRITERS!!!!!111 It has the same effect on SPEWart as it does when we say “TELEPROMPTER” about the Obamessiah!!!!111 Writers, teleprompter, WRITERS, TELEPROMPTER!!!!!1111 We will TAKE BACK our Once Proud Republic through the force of our WORDS alone, True Patriots!!!!11

  • Scott_in_MI

    stoogedudes said:
    Despite what some polls might suggest, I’d say the overwhelming majority of people who watch his show don’t get their news from him. They have to know the news already to understand what he is talking about. They are doing important comedy, and without Jon Stewart’s critique, this wouldn’t have gotten the coverage it has gotten. Yes, but Stewart brought the story to the forefront of everyone’s attention, including O’Reilly’s. So, yes, he does deserve credit. If it wasn’t for him, there wouldn’t have been so much pressure to act on the bill, especially as the lame duck session comes to a close. Exactly. Couldn’t agree more. Tell that to the massive coverage and the over 200,000 people who showed up to his rally. He is NOT irrelevant, at all. Do you also realize, he is one of his 25 writers? NOT A LOSER!

    I don’t know about you sheep who get all their news from Stewart , but I was following the bill’s progress for a couple weeks- I knew this was a NYC puiblic sector Union bailout. Stewart helped bring attention to the bill (the Senate voted NO,) but if OReilly didn’t report on it, it wouldn’t have passed.

  • James Nelson

    Scott_in_MI said:
    I don’t know about you sheep who get all their news from Stewart , but I was following the bill’s progress for a couple weeks- I knew this was a NYC puiblic sector Union bailout. Stewart helped bring attention to the bill (the Senate voted NO,) but if OReilly didn’t report on it, it wouldn’t have passed.

    Prove it. Never can understand how you sheep get all your news from Beck and OReilly.

  • felixw

    Stewart’s influence is significant. His crowning as the most influential leftwinger in America is just one more sign that the American Left now operates primarily in the realm of jokes, ridicule, sarcasm, irony and clowning. If you make a list of the most influential leftists in America nowadays, virtually all are either comedians (Stewart, Colbert, Maher, Letterman) or former comedians (Franken, Behar) or quasi-comedians (Moore, Olberman) or unintentional comedians (Maddow, Rich, Huffington).

    This is why the Left RAN AWAY from serious discussion of ideas and policies in the last election, and focused instead on WITCHCRAFT. It’s hard for them to wrap their heads around 2,000 page bills because their whole ethos is now limited to the one-liner. And it takes a lot of one-liners to get through a 2,000-page bill.

    This also means that the Left can laugh, but the Right gets the LAST laugh, since voters find it increasingly hard to take seriously a political agenda that can’t take itself seriously. As was also demonstrated in the last election.

  • James Nelson

    felixw said:
    Stewart’s influence is significant. His crowning as the most influential leftwinger in America is just one more sign that the American Left now operates primarily in the realm of jokes, ridicule, sarcasm, irony and clowning. If you make a list of the most influential leftists in America nowadays, virtually all are either comedians (Stewart, Colbert, Maher, Letterman) or former comedians (Franken, Behar) or quasi-comedians (Moore, Olberman) or unintentional comedians (Maddow, Rich, Huffington). This is why the Left RAN AWAY from serious discussion of ideas and policies in the last election, and focused instead on WITCHCRAFT. It’s hard for them to wrap their heads around 2,000 page bills because their whole ethos is now limited to the one-liner. And it takes a lot of one-liners to get through a 2,000-page bill. This also means that the Left can laugh, but the Right gets the LAST laugh, since voters find it increasingly hard to take seriously a political agenda that can’t take itself seriously. As was also demonstrated in the last election.

    Limbaugh, Beck, Savage.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    felixw said:
    Stewart’s influence is significant. His crowning as the most influential leftwinger in America is just one more sign that the American Left now operates primarily in the realm of jokes, ridicule, sarcasm, irony and clowning. If you make a list of the most influential leftists in America nowadays, virtually all are either comedians (Stewart, Colbert, Maher, Letterman) or former comedians (Franken, Behar) or quasi-comedians (Moore, Olberman) or unintentional comedians (Maddow, Rich, Huffington).

    This is why the Left RAN AWAY from serious discussion of ideas and policies in the last election, and focused instead on WITCHCRAFT. It’s hard for them to wrap their heads around 2,000 page bills because their whole ethos is now limited to the one-liner. And it takes a lot of one-liners to get through a 2,000-page bill.

    This also means that the Left can laugh, but the Right gets the LAST laugh, since voters find it increasingly hard to take seriously a political agenda that can’t take itself seriously. As was also demonstrated in the last election.

    Really? What election were YOU watching? All Democrats did was focus on actual issues while republicans reiterated talking points.

  • printbrat

    We need term limits for all elected positions.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Stewart lives in a different world. Like all the libs that post here they are confused about American values.

    They all have Obama values.
    You can see my latest video on Obama Values below.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x7WLL9vsP8

  • Nacho

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Stewart lives in a different world. Like all the libs that post here they are confused about American values.

    They all have Obama values.
    You can see my latest video on Obama Values below.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9×7WLL9vsP8

    Fucking hilarious plug, I’m going to watch your video Gordan.

  • Hugo Daun

    littleboybloyer said:
    You can see my latest video below:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hcVleGxx40

    Now, THAT’S more like it!!!

  • Nacho

    Wow, The Gordon Blower Show wasn’t that informative or entertaining. Who is your target audience? Who are you trying to reach with that piece if of video failure?

    Take a lesson from a pro,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc_HzbAyRR0

  • Nacho
  • stoogedudes

    Scott_in_MI said:
    I don’t know about you sheep who get all their news from Stewart , but I was following the bill’s progress for a couple weeks- I knew this was a NYC puiblic sector Union bailout. Stewart helped bring attention to the bill (the Senate voted NO,) but if OReilly didn’t report on it, it wouldn’t have passed.

    Scott, I don’t get my news from Jon Stewart, no sensible person would. I’m not a sheep, as much as you’d like to think I am.

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Stewart lives in a different world. Like all the libs that post here they are confused about American values. They all have Obama values.You can see my latest video on Obama Values below. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9×7WLL9vsP8

    People have different values. You are not the person to say which values are uniquely American. You have your values, I have my values, Stewart has his values. We all have values that overlap, and we are all American. There’s your American values.

  • Hugo Daun
  • felixw

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Really? What election were YOU watching? All Democrats did was focus on actual issues while republicans reiterated talking points.

    Sure, buddy. Why don’t you start by counting the articles published on Mediaite on Christine O’Donnell’s witchcraft, and then compare with the number of articles on the deficit and unemployment. Then you can make the same comparison for MSNBC, etc. Come back and report on what you find.

    I can help you out a little. MSNBC and Mediaite ran no stories on the deficit, and stories every day on witchcraft.

    So much for your SUBSTANTIVE issues from the Left.

  • BMinor

    Having the President appear on his program, would appear to add credibility to Stewart’s role today in the media, maybe he doesn’t deserve it, but he has it nonetheless.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    felixw said:
    Sure, buddy. Why don’t you start by counting the articles published on Mediaite on Christine O’Donnell’s witchcraft, and then compare with the number of articles on the deficit and unemployment. Then you can make the same comparison for MSNBC, etc. Come back and report on what you find.

    I can help you out a little. MSNBC and Mediaite ran no stories on the deficit, and stories every day on witchcraft.

    So much for your SUBSTANTIVE issues from the Left.

    If only the media were the ones running for office, eh dumbass? Why don’t you go to that debate between CANDIDATES O’Donnell and Coons and see which one stuck to issues and which one resorted to attacks. Why don’t you go to Sharron Angle’s entire campaign or her utter lie that harry reid became “rich as a senator” when he was already a lawyer. So much for YOUR SUBSTANTIVE issues from the right.

  • James Nelson

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Stewart lives in a different world. Like all the libs that post here they are confused about American values. They all have Obama values.You can see my latest video on Obama Values below. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9×7WLL9vsP8

    I watched it Gordo. No offense, but it was not very informative. Merry Christmas.

  • SarahP

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Stewart lives in a different world. Like all the libs that post here they are confused about American values.

    They all have Obama values.
    You can see my latest video on Obama Values below.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9×7WLL9vsP8

    We know that you cut and ran from military service; very unAmerican values coming from you Gordon bloyer show.

  • Yoda002

    felixw said:
    Stewart’s influence is significant. His crowning as the most influential leftwinger in America is just one more sign that the American Left now operates primarily in the realm of jokes, ridicule, sarcasm, irony and clowning. If you make a list of the most influential leftists in America nowadays, virtually all are either comedians (Stewart, Colbert, Maher, Letterman) or former comedians (Franken, Behar) or quasi-comedians (Moore, Olberman) or unintentional comedians (Maddow, Rich, Huffington).

    This is why the Left RAN AWAY from serious discussion of ideas and policies in the last election, and focused instead on WITCHCRAFT. It’s hard for them to wrap their heads around 2,000 page bills because their whole ethos is now limited to the one-liner. And it takes a lot of one-liners to get through a 2,000-page bill.

    This also means that the Left can laugh, but the Right gets the LAST laugh, since voters find it increasingly hard to take seriously a political agenda that can’t take itself seriously. As was also demonstrated in the last election.

    At least they’re reporting the real news and not what Faux is doing which is making up the news. Frank Luntz makes up the one-liners for the right wingers they can’t even think for themselves.

  • felixw

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    If only the media were the ones running for office, eh dumbass? Why don’t you go to that debate between CANDIDATES O’Donnell and Coons and see which one stuck to issues and which one resorted to attacks. Why don’t you go to Sharron Angle’s entire campaign or her utter lie that harry reid became “rich as a senator” when he was already a lawyer. So much for YOUR SUBSTANTIVE issues from the right.

    Yawn. Your spin is tired, my friend, and completely unconvincing. I saw the town hall meetings, where Democrats were INCAPABLE of responding to questions about fiscal responsibility from their constituents. Their response was…to stop holding town hall meetings. I saw the Democrats complete unwillingness to respond to their constituents on Obamacare. Their respoinse was…to ignore their constituents. I saw the complete misrepresentation of the tea parties pleas for government accountability. I saw all the left wing opinion leaders talking about WITCHCRAFT and MASTURBATION. I saw the Left’s total avoidance of discussions of unemployment, deficits, the failed economy. Never in history has a political party had so little substance and so much fluff.

    Why don’t you start by asking yourself why the main source of ideas on the left is COMEDY CENTRAL. Doesn’t that tell you something right there?

  • WilsonTheHeretic

    Demagogue. He didn’t want debate on the 9/11 bill, which is what the public would’ve benefited from. He just wanted it DONE. I’ll admit, he even won me over at the time. And then I looked found out the whole story.

  • Randy M

    From the comments it seems like there are many FOX viewers reading Mediaite and they just keep proving the poll that demonstrated how uniformed FOX viewers are.

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: Jon Stewart (born Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz on November 28, 1962) is a liberal, nine-time Emmy-winning American comedian, satirist, actor, author, and producer. He describes himself as more of a socialist or an independent than a Democrat [1]. Roger Ailes mentioned that Stewart told him he is an atheist. [2] He is best known as the host of Comedy Central’s The Daily Show with Jon Stewart and for his political satire.

    Stewart has also appeared in several films including “Big Daddy,” “The Faculty”, “Half Baked” and “Death To Smoochy.” He was the host of the 2006 and 2008 Academy Awards.

    Jon Stewart has co-written, along with other writers of The Daily Show, America (The Book): A Citizen’s Guide to Democracy Inaction which satirizes the American political system.

    Family
    Jon Stewart lives with his wife Tracey Stewart (née McShane) in New York City. They have two children.

    No he is a skank! Terrible family example!

  • CosmosDan

    Big Eddie said:
    Stewart is only influential with slow witted liberals , who think that they’re watching the news .
    His huge gang of writers must be convinced they are doing important ” comedy ” . They’re not .

    Eddie, since the bill did actually get attention and pass, this is obviously not true.

    Jon did something rare and stepped out from doing comedy to give 911 heroes a face and a voice , and that shamed other media, noteably Shep Smith, into giving it attention and got the bill passed. I firmly believe that had it not been for Jon, those 911 heroes would still be waiting.

  • CosmosDan

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    he is not a journalist, he is a comic, end of story

    that’s correct, and one thing not mentioned in the article is why it took a NYC comic to point this out.
    He also fails to note that those republicans were offered a chance to come on Fox and explain but they turned it down.

  • CosmosDan

    Pablo said:
    It seems that there was a way to get Republicans unanimously on board. I’m glad someone listened long enough to figure out what it was.

    And that way was to shame them into dealing with it and accepting a compromise that should have been done already.

    Jon S , never said the bill should be passed as is, but that the moral outrage was that this bill was not a priority. And the moral outrage was accented for the party that eagerly used 911 for elections and the network that eagerly created outrage when it suited them, but not for real people that should have their attention.

  • CosmosDan

    felixw said:
    Stewart’s influence is significant. His crowning as the most influential leftwinger in America is just one more sign that the American Left now operates primarily in the realm of jokes, ridicule, sarcasm, irony and clowning.

    What a load this is. Tell you what felix, you let me know when liberal elected officials have to apologize , backtrack and kowtow to Jon the way Republicans do to to Rush Limbaugh. You let me know when liberal elected officials get openly booed, shouted down, and voted out, when they suggest people turn Jon off and learn the facts, the way a GOP rep was for making that suggestion about Beck. Jon S repeatedly expresses disappointment when his fake news show is taken to seriously and would be the first one to encourage people to do much more than just listen to him.

  • CosmosDan

    hanniballa said:
    John Stewart is a palace guard. He has no integrity, excerpt when he thinks Obama is not progressive enough. Remember when he took down that idiot, Kramer from CNBC. Go re-watch that, you can see how little Stewart enjoys it, its like watching someone hemorrhage integrity.

    I’d be interested in knowing how that relates to integrity in your view. Stewart felt bad for punching such an east target who had volunteered. How does that show a lack of integrity?

  • CosmosDan

    Scott_in_MI said:
    If anyone deserved credit for the bill’s passage, it’s o`Reilly. Stewart was yapping about the failure to pass this bill for a week and nothing changed, however, when The Factor got on the case, the bill passed.

    This is, IMO, border line delusional. If not for Stewart , chances are Shep wouldn’t have pounced on it, {since he admitted watching the show and that Jon was right} and if not for Shep and other media picking it up OReily may not have mentioned it at all. Ad to that ORielly did not stress passing it and was content to have the bill wait until next session.

    And you’re wrong that Jon talked about it for a week. The brilliant move was to set comedy aside and bring real faces and voices of 911 heroes into the studio, and that succeeded in sparking the outcry that got the bill passed.

  • CosmosDan

    printbrat said:
    Jon Stewart is the first to say that he is a comedian and not a journalist. Now he’s being attacked by journalists because he’s doing their job too.

    Ironic as fuck isn’t it? Kudos to Shep Smith for admitting Jon was right and stepping up to join the fight rather than make feeble excuses and criticize the comic for making the media look bad.

  • CosmosDan

    Scott_in_MI said:
    I don’t know about you sheep who get all their news from Stewart , but I was following the bill’s progress for a couple weeks- I knew this was a NYC puiblic sector Union bailout. Stewart helped bring attention to the bill (the Senate voted NO,) but if OReilly didn’t report on it, it wouldn’t have passed.

    I’m guessing you have nothing other than an opinion , to back up this claim.
    Bill said,
    “It’s chaos” as it is—so why not wait until next year?

    so how exactly does this talking head get credit?
    Your remark about people getting all their news fro Stewart is a feeble and unfunny joke. It simply isn’t true.

    Jon’s outrage wasn’t that the bill should be passed as is, but that the GOP, who loved to wave the 911 flag to get elected, didn’t make it a priority. It took Jon bringing on real faces and voices of 911 heroes to ignite the spark that others like Shep picked up.

  • Alz

    Obeezy said:
    Thats like saying Santa Clause: Fictional character or Wealthiest man on the planet? He is about as rational crack addict in rehab

    But he could be the most rational crack addict IN the rehab.

  • Alz

    CosmosDan said:
    …and would be the first one to encourage people to do much more than just listen to him.

    But he ridicules them if they come to a different opinion.

  • CosmosDan

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Stewart lives in a different world. Like all the libs that post here they are confused about American values.

    Yeah Gordon, if you’re referring to your values as American values, I’m pretty dam grateful to live in another world where people are able to see beyond their narrow ignorant partisan view.

  • CosmosDan

    felixw said:
    I can help you out a little. MSNBC and Mediaite ran no stories on the deficit, and stories every day on witchcraft.

    And then the GOP made a tax deal that said “piss off” to the deficit.

  • CosmosDan

    Alz said:
    But he ridicules them if they come to a different opinion.

    Simply untrue. Jon , in his interviews , treats people with honest differences of opinion with respect. He ridicules, hypocrisy and cowardice, and corruption.

  • sopal1953

    Stewart is a comedian who performs on his show on a television network called “Comedy Central.” Only people who do NOT watch his program would consider him a journalist. He has a studio audience and much laughter, hardly the stuff of serious journalism. Every once in awhile something he says or does resonates.

  • dahni

    I place Stewart and Al Sharpton in the same class of demagoguery. Shrill, self-agrandising, intellectual and moral rigidity resulting in Sharpton being a bigger buffoon than is Stewart only because Stewart ‘tries’ to be funny.

  • ganymede

    Years from now they’ll be playing clips of John Stewart and Stephen Colbert in order to understand the stupid times we’re going through and how these comics had the best insights into the insanity of the reactionary forces trying to hold onto their diminishing power. And Stewart and Colbert can be very funny, too. One of the things that Stewart does best is parody Glenn Beck’s strange act. Even many of you rightwingers will be laughing (and I hope with some sense of shame) at how you were taken in by this tomfoolery. Your children will ask you what you thought of Beck and Fox in 2010 and you’ll be at a lose to explain how you were supporting such phony, backward people whose actions and hypocrisies are so against human progress in every possible way. As the rubber hits the road in 2011 we’re going to see the few decent rightwing politicians and pundits peel away from the rabid pack – it’s already beginning to happen. I hope some of you will be amongst them. We’re going to get our wonderful country back on the right track regardless of your whining and backward ways. You can’t keep defending the indefensible.

  • Alz

    CosmosDan said:
    He ridicules, hypocrisy and cowardice, and corruption.

    The guy isn’t exactly lily clean here. He pulls selective editing on people: See
    http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=jon+stewart+selective+editing&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=a20cfd04ba3c5cf9

    Stewart is no doubt somewhat smart, but he doesn’t exactly work towards seeking the truth – only his truth.

  • PoliticalPAW

    The “skepticism” is about the $7.2B cost of the Dems haphazard spending. When this cost was cut nearly in half to $4.2B, that verifies that nearly half or $3.0B was definitely waste. No Progressive-Liberals cared about this waste or mentioned about the “shortcomings” of the law that is devoid of the $3.0B fleecing of Americans once they claimed victory. Is there a Progressive-Liberal “rational defense” to this fleecing and waste?

    Moreover, is there a “rational defense” to the despicable, ad hominem, propaganda attempt from Progressive-Liberal Gillibrand? She fabricating Republican Congressman King’s words with “this is important to our NATIONAL SECURITY” when he never uttered such nonsense: http://tinyurl.com/2vn3hxr

    @PoliticalPAW

  • Alz

    PoliticalPAW said:
    The “skepticism” is about the $7.2B cost of the Dems haphazard spending. When this cost was cut nearly in half to $4.2B, that verifies that nearly half or $3.0B was definitely waste. No Progressive-Liberals cared about this waste or mentioned about the “shortcomings” of the law that is devoid of the $3.0B fleecing of Americans once they claimed victory. Is there a Progressive-Liberal “rational defense” to this fleecing and waste?

    Moreover, is there a “rational defense” to the despicable, ad hominem, propaganda attempt from Progressive-Liberal Gillibrand? She fabricating Republican Congressman King’s words with “this is important to our NATIONAL SECURITY” when he never uttered such nonsense: http://tinyurl.com/2vn3hxr

    @PoliticalPAW

    These types of liberals don’t care about anything but gaining power while hurting their enemies. People don’t matter (think of the inner cities), budgets don’t matter, etc.

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: Jon got the democrat pot smoke thing right!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqjt2KDtO9E

    Here one for the libs.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7bqyOzZzfI&NR=1

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: Jon Stewart is a Pin Head!

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  • lewisquckel

    John Stewart, Palace guards. He is not honest, information, he believes Obama is not progressive enough. I remember when to begin, that idiot Cramer CNBC. To see how Stewart is no good, I like to see the integrity of a person’s brain.
    http://teethbrilliant.org

  • uptownruler

    For all the conservatives out there, The daily show is a COMEDY show.
    The only time conservatives are funny is when they are being serious.

  • Alz

    uptownruler said:
    For all the conservatives out there, The daily show is a COMEDY show.
    The only time conservatives are funny is when they are being serious.

    Here’s the problem: many liberals use Stewart as their PRIMARY news source. (Colbert, Bill Behar/Joy Maher, MSNBC are in the mix too.)

    You can try to say that Fox is all wrong, but even if you don’t care fox Fox, they do get some things right FROM THE LIBERAL POINT OF VIEW. In other words, if you liberals actually used reason, you would use some of the information from Fox to advance. You don’t so your stuck in the spiral of liberal misinformation from the likes of Stewart, etc.

  • CosmosDan

    Alz said:
    The guy isn’t exactly lily clean here. He pulls selective editing on people: See
    http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=jon+stewart+selective+editing&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=a20cfd04ba3c5cf9

    Do you read your own links to see if they support your point? They kinda don’t. What they demonstrate is how well and often Jon points out the selective editing of Fox. Lily White? Nobody claimed that , but it’s not Jon’s fault that the same technology available to Fox is available to him to expose their shenanigans.

    Alz said:
    Stewart is no doubt somewhat smart, but he doesn’t exactly work towards seeking the truth – only his truth.

    this is pretty funny coming from someone as bias and opinionated as you. Yes, Jon has his own views and has a platform from which to express them. His brand of comedy does call for some exaggeration, as well as some cheap shots and dick jokes. The somewhat bizarre thing is that his commitment to the comedy and his vision of what his show should be results in a brand of honesty that makes him successful. The joke itself has to fit with the facts, and so they research the facts, not for journalism’s sake, but for their job and brand of comedy. That’s what makes his satire so cutting, is it’s grounding in truth. It’s the same thing good satirists like Will Rodgers and Mark Twain have done, except his jokes are dirtier.

    Jon has said when he first started this he was surprised at how often real reporters would say they envied his ability to say what he did, and he wondered why they couldn’t. Not the specific language but calling out the barrage of BS we get from politicians. Over the years he’s become cynical and disappointed in the media outlets for failing to set priorities , distortion, and a lack of intelligent informative discourse about issues, and so, he mocks them as well.
    Recently and successfully demonstrated in the 1st responders bill.

  • CosmosDan

    Alz said:
    Here’s the problem: many liberals use Stewart as their PRIMARY news source. (Colbert, Bill Behar/Joy Maher, MSNBC are in the mix too.)

    You can try to say that Fox is all wrong, but even if you don’t care fox Fox, they do get some things right FROM THE LIBERAL POINT OF VIEW. In other words, if you liberals actually used reason, you would use some of the information from Fox to advance. You don’t so your stuck in the spiral of liberal misinformation from the likes of Stewart, etc.

    Care to back up that meme with some credible evidence?

    I’m a fan of Stewart and Colbert but, as someone else pointed out, the reason their shows are funny is that I’ve already done some reading and caught up on the news before I watch, or if Jon happens to bring up an issue I missed, I’m smart enough to not rely on a comedy show and do additional research. I think most sensible people realize you can’t rely on one source in today’s media environment.

    Are their people only want a broad overview of current events. Sure. But your broad generalization here is ridiculous.

  • CosmosDan

    dahni said:
    I place Stewart and Al Sharpton in the same class of demagoguery. Shrill, self-agrandising, intellectual and moral rigidity resulting in Sharpton being a bigger buffoon than is Stewart only because Stewart ‘tries’ to be funny.

    Check out Beck, Limbaugh, Coulter and Hannity, when they are trying to be funny and mocking others and get back to me.

  • victor the crab

    John McCormack is a black hearted, cold blooded, piece of excrement for calling Jon Stewart a demagogue for trying to bring to light the chronic and, in some cases, terminal health problems the first response heroes are going through because of their bravery from the 9/11 attacks. And so are all you idiot posters here who agree with him. All of you greedy pigs can go burn in hell when you die.

  • Alz

    CosmosDan said:
    Care to back up that meme with some credible evidence?

    I’m a fan of Stewart and Colbert but, as someone else pointed out, the reason their shows are funny is that I’ve already done some reading and caught up on the news before I watch, or if Jon happens to bring up an issue I missed, I’m smart enough to not rely on a comedy show and do additional research. I think most sensible people realize you can’t rely on one source in today’s media environment.

    Are their people only want a broad overview of current events. Sure. But your broad generalization here is ridiculous.

    I know people who get their primary news from Maher, Colbert and/or Stewart. And from talking with other people, you can tell that they are short many facts.

    I think Stewart and Colbert are funny. (Maher is kind of angry.) But none of them seek the truth. They mostly support the Leftist line. Maher says he’s a Libertarian, but he’s a big lefty.

    I’m sure you’ll say the same thing about the folks on the Right, but I think you are mistaken. The Right does seek the better, the truth.

    Leftism always ends up hurting people over time so we know that anyone who goes in that direction is wrong.

  • Alz

    CosmosDan said:
    Do you read your own links to see if they support your point?

    But Stewart does his own selective editing. Looking at both, I have found that Fox’s information tends to be more correct over time than any of the left wing sources.

    You guys can whine about Fox all you want, but as the Left runs the country into the ground, I don’t see the Left wing news sources pointing it out.

  • CosmosDan

    Alz said:
    I know people who get their primary news from Maher, Colbert and/or Stewart. And from talking with other people, you can tell that they are short many facts.

    in other words, you don’t have any credible evidence, what you have is anecdotal evidence fortified by your own bias.

    Alz said:
    I’m sure you’ll say the same thing about the folks on the Right, but I think you are mistaken. The Right does seek the better, the truth.

    You are the best evidence that this isn’t entirely true. You regularly ignore facts in order to assert your own views are true. People concerned about the truth tend not to do that as much.
    note; I’m not saying either the left or the right are more truthful or more concerned about the truth. I think people are more complex than that and it’s about the individuals. There are plenty of great honest people leaning both left and right , and extremists on either side as well.

    Alz said:
    Leftism always ends up hurting people over time so we know that anyone who goes in that direction is wrong.

    This kind of statement , coming regularly from you , is the exactly what I mean.

  • CosmosDan

    Alz said:
    But Stewart does his own selective editing

    yep, and more often than not uses it to expose the dishonesty and hypocrisy of the media and politicians both left and right.

    Alz said:
    Looking at both, I have found that Fox’s information tends to be more correct over time than any of the left wing sources.

    I firmly believe you haven’t done any kind of meaningful study to support this opinion, and it’s simply a product of your bias. I have my own bias but I think it’s good to cultivate a little objectivity.

    Your theory here is questioned a bit by the recent study that indicated Fox news viewers to be more misinformed. In general I think most News networks have all but abandoned real investigative journalism and we are the poorer for it. We get less real information and seem satisfied with emotion driven opinions.

  • Alz

    CosmosDan said:
    yep, and more often than not uses it to expose the dishonesty and hypocrisy of the media and politicians both left and right.

    I firmly believe you haven’t done any kind of meaningful study to support this opinion, and it’s simply a product of your bias. I have my own bias but I think it’s good to cultivate a little objectivity.

    Your theory here is questioned a bit by the recent study that indicated Fox news viewers to be more misinformed. In general I think most News networks have all but abandoned real investigative journalism and we are the poorer for it. We get less real information and seem satisfied with emotion driven opinions.

    And exactly what study have you personally done?

    And I stand by “Leftism always ends up hurting people over time” because it seems to be true. I can’t find any examples of where it lasts very long for a large, diverse population without it being bankrupted. I think it was Churchill that talked about running out of other people’s money.

    The only system that has worked is our system: Democratic Capitalism based On a Moral Foundation. As liberalism has polluted our system over the past 80 to 100 years, we’ve seen more problems.

    And with the current Democrats accelerating the liberalism, our entire culture is now subject to collapse in the future. Things don’t look bright with liberals in office, do they?

  • CosmosDan

    Alz said:
    And exactly what study have you personally done?

    None, but when you make such broad general statements like the one above I’d just like to note that you’re basing it on very little. It’s simply a superficial opinion and should be taken as such. We do know that at least a couple of studies done in the past few years indicate that Fox viewers aren’t as well informed.

    If you’re counting opinions you happen to agree with as “truth” you’re on the wrong tack IMO.

    Alz said:
    And I stand by “Leftism always ends up hurting people over time” because it seems to be true.

    Yes, I know, you stand by your opinions. That doesn’t make them any better than anyone else who disagrees and stands by theirs. What improves an opinion is when it’s based on facts and real evidence. While you occasionally quote facts, you also regularly ignore them when they don’t fit your opinion.

    One example: If the question is, Do we want to provide help for those less fortunate I imagine both liberals and conservatives would say yes. The question then is , what is the best way to provide that help?
    Conservatives and liberals have different ideas on the most efficient method but I wouldn’t say either side has all the answers. In fact I’d wager that all liberals and all conservatives don’t even agree with each other on the best way. We discover that by making the effort, finding compromises, and being willing to make changes when we see errors. We shouldn’t confuse politicians who claim to be liberal or conservative with average working people. I think a lot of good people sincerely love this country and want things to get better while politicians on both sides of the aisle have lots of other priorities and influences other than the countries best interests.

    Alz said:
    And with the current Democrats accelerating the liberalism, our entire culture is now subject to collapse in the future. Things don’t look bright with liberals in office, do they?

    Considering what happened in 8 years of the Bush administration it’s foolish to blame where we are on liberalism. Consider also that the conservatives have had little to offer in the way of real solutions to serious issues. We’ll see if the new crop of recruits have the courage and the voice to do things any differently.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Scott_in_MI says:
    “GBR, perhaps you can find someone who can find a bombshell about Coburn…kind of like that promised story on Beck which would ruin his career.”

    Colburn had to tell a town hall meeting of his constituents to get their news from another source besides Fox because the people had such grave misunderstanding of Washington. I thought then that was a bombshell about the lies at Fox, but even more proof has come out on that matter.

    Did I promise a story on Beck? I don’t remember using the word “promise.” According to my source, the story is going to come out. He is still doing research because he wants to make sure he’s getting this right.

    Look: it’s possible that the person feeding him this info hates Beck and wants to destroy him. Maybe it’s all bogus, in which case there will be no bombshell. One thing you can be sure of, if it’s published; it’s going to be accurate. Will it ruin his career? That depends on the tense used in the story. Beck was _____ will damage him, but Beck is _____ will certainly do a lot of damage to his career and more.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, if ya want the truth, switch to FAUX!

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