I’m “skeptical” of Kyle’s commitment to America.

I’m “skeptical” of Obama, Reid and Pelosi’s commitment to America.

BatBoy said:
I’m “skeptical” of Obama, Reid and Pelosi’s commitment to America.

you got that right comrade!

of course kyl is skeptical cuz he thinks the first responders are just trying to pull one over and get more money…obviously those brave men and women only think about themselves…those selfish bastards.

Arizona is full of scumbag politicians: Kyl, McCain, Brewer, etc…

ChiliPeppersFan said:
of course kyl is skeptical cuz he thinks the first responders are just trying to pull one over and get more money…obviously those brave men and women only think about themselves…those selfish bastards.

Damn right Kyl is skeptical,,
he’s delt with crying liberals before,,
libs have a tendency of exploiting peoples emotions!

JUST BECAUSE IT’S ADDRESSED TO THE 1st RESPONDERS,,
DOESNT MAKE IT A FRICKIN’ GOOD (OR PASSABLE) BILL!!

it’s too expensive kyl? maybe we should pass a bill that targets health care costs…maybe get more people insured.
at about the 4 min. mark he says another reason why he’s skeptical is because they were just the ‘clean-up’ crew not the first responders and they didn’t take necessary health precautions.
9/11 we will never forget? if it costs to much, jon kyl will.

Atticus Draco said:
Damn right Kyl is skeptical,,
he’s delt with crying liberals before,,
libs have a tendency of exploiting peoples emotions!

JUST BECAUSE IT’S ADDRESSED TO THE 1st RESPONDERS,,
DOESNT MAKE IT A FRICKIN’ GOOD (OR PASSABLE) BILL!!

ChiliPeppersFan said:
9/11 we will never forget? if it costs to much, jon kyl will.

and so will his apologists…er, i mean supporters.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
and so will his apologists…er, i mean supporters.

well,, i support Kyl in this instance,,
STRONGLY i do

The dems are the ones that fucked up the original vote on it. Tough shit Harry, quit trying to stuff interet gambling into it and every other bill ya frickin hack.

I’m always skeptical when Congress tried to ram through legislation without reading or debating it. They’re obviously afraid of something in there seeing the light of day.

We now know when it comes to patriotism, repubs are all talk and no action. Not a surprise to most of us.

I’m skeptical that Kyl or anyone else who opposes this bill that provides medical care to heros has a soul.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
of course kyl is skeptical cuz he thinks the first responders are just trying to pull one over and get more money…obviously those brave men and women only think about themselves…those selfish bastards.

You realize that the first responders didn’t actually write the bill… right?

You also realize that there have been a number of fraudulent claims of injury and illness among fake-first responders (people saying they were there, who weren’t really there)… right?

And you realize that Congress has a nasty habit of creating a bill with an attractive label, but filling it up with a lot of unrelated nonsense (earmarks, gifts to unions, funding for unrelated causes, etc.), and then using the good element to make the other side look bad… right? A good example of this is Obamacare… the bill was how big, and yet if you hear Obama or the Democrats speak, all that was involved was increasing the parental care age to 26, and the end of pre-existing condition denials.

I’m a New Yorker, and helping first responders is something I wholly support… but trusting Reid or Pelosi to do it right… no, I think not.

SarahP said:
We now know when it comes to patriotism, repubs are all talk and no action. Not a surprise to most of us.

You are a clod and a dullard who knows nothing about patriotism.

notsofast said:
You are a clod and a dullard who knows nothing about patriotism.

You no nothing about military service and sleep in your momma’s basement with a Glen Beck blow up doll.

notsofast said:
You are a clod and a dullard who knows nothing about patriotism.

By the way, how are you and vinyl Glen getting along anyway?

Atticus Draco said:
Damn right Kyl is skeptical,,
he’s delt with crying liberals before,,
libs have a tendency of exploiting peoples emotions!

JUST BECAUSE IT’S ADDRESSED TO THE 1st RESPONDERS,,
DOESNT MAKE IT A FRICKIN’ GOOD (OR PASSABLE) BILL!!

As if we needed anymore evidence that Republicans hate America, here is one. Kyl should be ashamed of himself and anyone else who voted against this bill or supported the vote. I pray that every one of you before you leave this mortal coil, comes to terms with the life path you have chosen for yourself. All of you used the tragedy of 911 for your own petty political gain and when it was no longer politically viable to do so you threw them away. I hope our country can see how you people are, 3000 people were slaughtered by terrorists on a Republican President’s watch, and instead of feeling shame about that you double down on your blind hatred of America. May God have mercy on all of your souls, you are going to need it.

Jonathan Scott said:

Your manipulation and exploitation of the tragic events of 9/11 for YOUR OWN personal political goals, while railing against others for allegedly doing the same, is terribly hypocritical and transparent.

You should be ashamed and embarrassed, but I doubt you will be.

PS-
Wasn’t it the Democrats who said for years, “Don’t question my patriotism or love of America simply because we disagree with you.” I guess that also only applies to Democrats who feel slighted. Pathetic.

ImNotBlue said:
Your manipulation and exploitation of the tragic events of 9/11 for YOUR OWN personal political goals, while railing against others for allegedly doing the same, is terribly hypocritical and transparent.

You should be ashamed and embarrassed, but I doubt you will be.

PS-
Wasn’t it the Democrats who said for years, “Don’t question my patriotism or love of America simply because we disagree with you.” I guess that also only applies to Democrats who feel slighted. Pathetic.

Good 1st Response

Jonathan Scott said:
As if we needed anymore evidence that Republicans hate America, here is one. Kyl should be ashamed of himself and anyone else who voted against this bill or supported the vote. I pray that every one of you before you leave this mortal coil, comes to terms with the life path you have chosen for yourself. All of you used the tragedy of 911 for your own petty political gain and when it was no longer politically viable to do so you threw them away. I hope our country can see how you people are, 3000 people were slaughtered by terrorists on a Republican President’s watch, and instead of feeling shame about that you double down on your blind hatred of America. May God have mercy on all of your souls, you are going to need it.

Nicely said and on the money.

TOP 10 REASONS WHY REPUBLICANS WILL NOT VOTE FOR THIS BILL:

Number 10 – Couldn’t get a statue of George W Bush with a megaphone at ground zero

Number 9 – No money to purchase the 700,000 Sarah Palin books being returned to Harper Collins

Number 8 – They couldn’t attach an earmark for a new bible college

Number 7 – 9/11 responders didn’t purchase Glenn Beck’s survival pack before going to ground zero

Number 6 – They can’t outsource the policy to a Chinese insurance company

Number 5 – They think it’s a 9/11 responders public option

Number 4 – Republicans found out some of the 9/11 responders were democrats

Number 3 – Rush Limbaugh hasn’t approved of it yet

Number 2 – There’s no new tax breaks for for billionaires in the bill

Number 1 – Because it’s the right thing to do

ImNotBlue said:
You realize that the first responders didn’t actually write the bill… right?

You also realize that there have been a number of fraudulent claims of injury and illness among fake-first responders (people saying they were there, who weren’t really there)… right?

And you realize that Congress has a nasty habit of creating a bill with an attractive label, but filling it up with a lot of unrelated nonsense (earmarks, gifts to unions, funding for unrelated causes, etc.), and then using the good element to make the other side look bad… right? A good example of this is Obamacare… the bill was how big, and yet if you hear Obama or the Democrats speak, all that was involved was increasing the parental care age to 26, and the end of pre-existing condition denials.

I’m a New Yorker, and helping first responders is something I wholly support… but trusting Reid or Pelosi to do it right… no, I think not.

and you were OK, with how the republicans wasted so much money during 2002-2006 wasting money in wars, gitmo, tax cuts, and all their spending bills and how they tried to privatize social security? Am i seeing consistency in your argument? Your words tell me that you don’t trust Reid or Pelosi, but not their republican counterparts for doing the same thing?

I wanted to say that I felt SAD for the people of Arizona because they have two assholes for senators and a total whack-job for a governor. Oh and that dick-head Rep Quayle BUT hey the people voted them in so I do hope they will enjoy the results of their voting.

I just can’t wrap my head around how they fought so hard for $700 billion in tax cuts for the wealthy, but can’t spare a fraction of that to help the real heroes of 9/11. I just can’t picture the sheer callousness and outright greed of their (Republican) mindset.

Hawk11 said:

You’re very funny Hawk! You should write for SNL or the Daily Show… really, anywhere but on this website were others might have to actually read your hyper-partisan and foolish tripe.

Socialist said:
and you were OK, with how the republicans wasted so much money during 2002-2006 wasting money in wars, gitmo, tax cuts, and all their spending bills and how they tried to privatize social security? Am i seeing consistency in your argument? Your words tell me that you don’t trust Reid or Pelosi, but not their republican counterparts for doing the same thing?

You may be seeing it… but I certainly didn’t say it. Methinks you should quit trying to read between the lines, and spend more time reading the ACTUAL lines.

Republicans wasted far too much money, and got beat up for it in 2006 and 2008… and rightfully so. However, the Democrats didn’t do any better, and simply continued what the Republicans had started.

But that’s not really the point. The point is that a bill shouldn’t be rushed through Congress, by either party, without ample debate and review. Both parties want to waste money and reward their “friends,” and the only way to prevent that is to have checks and balances in the form of review by all members of Congress. What’s wrong with that?

If this bill was written by Kyl, or McConnell, or any other Republican… would you (and the other lefties) be saying the same thing? Would you call for the bill to be rushed through… or would you have your doubts, and call for review? I know where I would stand (same place as I’m at now), and I’m pretty sure where you’d stand.

Oh, and just for clarity sake… how did Republicans “waste money” in Gitmo (which has been kept open by the Obama Administration), tax cuts (which were just re-upped by Democrats, and pushed by the Obama and Clinton), or in an attempt to privatize Social Security (which you think debating cost money)? You’re throwing out the typical talking points, but your not quick understanding what you’re talking about.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
I’m always skeptical when Congress tried to ram through legislation without reading or debating it. They’re obviously afraid of something in there seeing the light of day.

They’ve been legislating, discussing, and debating this for a long, long time. Don’t you recall when Republicans first pretended that they were concerned about a procedural issue and denied to bring it to vote?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-efD6wuhHpQ

The Republican politicians are bastards, plain and simple.

Hawk11 said:
TOP 10 REASONS WHY REPUBLICANS WILL NOT VOTE FOR THIS BILL:

Number 10 – Couldn’t get a statue of George W Bush with a megaphone at ground zero

Number 9 – No money to purchase the 700,000 Sarah Palin books being returned to Harper Collins

Number 8 – They couldn’t attach an earmark for a new bible college

Number 7 – 9/11 responders didn’t purchase Glenn Beck’s survival pack before going to ground zero

Number 6 – They can’t outsource the policy to a Chinese insurance company

Number 5 – They think it’s a 9/11 responders public option

Number 4 – Republicans found out some of the 9/11 responders were democrats

Number 3 – Rush Limbaugh hasn’t approved of it yet

Number 2 – There’s no new tax breaks for for billionaires in the bill

Number 1 – Because it’s the right thing to do

Very funny and spot on!! LOL!!

ImNotBlue said:
You’re very funny Hawk! You should write for SNL or the Daily Show… really, anywhere but on this website were others might have to actually read your hyper-partisan and foolish tripe.

You may be seeing it… but I certainly didn’t say it. Methinks you should quit trying to read between the lines, and spend more time reading the ACTUAL lines.

Republicans wasted far too much money, and got beat up for it in 2006 and 2008… and rightfully so. However, the Democrats didn’t do any better, and simply continued what the Republicans had started.

But that’s not really the point. The point is that a bill shouldn’t be rushed through Congress, by either party, without ample debate and review. Both parties want to waste money and reward their “friends,” and the only way to prevent that is to have checks and balances in the form of review by all members of Congress. What’s wrong with that?

If this bill was written by Kyl, or McConnell, or any other Republican… would you (and the other lefties) be saying the same thing? Would you call for the bill to be rushed through… or would you have your doubts, and call for review? I know where I would stand (same place as I’m at now), and I’m pretty sure where you’d stand.

Oh, and just for clarity sake… how did Republicans “waste money” in Gitmo (which has been kept open by the Obama Administration), tax cuts (which were just re-upped by Democrats, and pushed by the Obama and Clinton), or in an attempt to privatize Social Security (which you think debating cost money)? You’re throwing out the typical talking points, but your not quick understanding what you’re talking about.

Good 1st Response once again!

ImNotBlue said:
You’re very funny Hawk! You should write for SNL or the Daily Show… really, anywhere but on this website were others might have to actually read your hyper-partisan and foolish tripe.

you read my foolish tripe and didn’t have to, so I guess that makes you fool # 1… Right?

ImNotBlue said:
You’re very funny Hawk! You should write for SNL or the Daily Show… really, anywhere but on this website were others might have to actually read your hyper-partisan and foolish tripe.

You may be seeing it… but I certainly didn’t say it. Methinks you should quit trying to read between the lines, and spend more time reading the ACTUAL lines.

Republicans wasted far too much money, and got beat up for it in 2006 and 2008… and rightfully so. However, the Democrats didn’t do any better, and simply continued what the Republicans had started.

But that’s not really the point. The point is that a bill shouldn’t be rushed through Congress, by either party, without ample debate and review. Both parties want to waste money and reward their “friends,” and the only way to prevent that is to have checks and balances in the form of review by all members of Congress. What’s wrong with that?

If this bill was written by Kyl, or McConnell, or any other Republican… would you (and the other lefties) be saying the same thing? Would you call for the bill to be rushed through… or would you have your doubts, and call for review? I know where I would stand (same place as I’m at now), and I’m pretty sure where you’d stand.

Oh, and just for clarity sake… how did Republicans “waste money” in Gitmo (which has been kept open by the Obama Administration), tax cuts (which were just re-upped by Democrats, and pushed by the Obama and Clinton), or in an attempt to privatize Social Security (which you think debating cost money)? You’re throwing out the typical talking points, but your not quick understanding what you’re talking about.

Thank you for this. Without question the funniest thing I’ve read in a long, long time. LMAO!!

Hawk11 said:
Number 9 – No money to purchase the 700,000 Sarah Palin books being returned to Harper Collins

the reason her second book isn’t selling is because her supporters haven’t finished reading the first one yet.
thanx to ko for that one.

Hawk11 said:
you read my foolish tripe and didn’t have to, so I guess that makes you fool # 1… Right?

Or very close to it. Absolutely hilarious!!

Hawk11 said:
you read my foolish tripe and didn’t have to, so I guess that makes you fool # 1… Right?

How do you figure? I read your stuff hoping that you would write something intelligent and well put together… or at the very least, funny. But it wasn’t.

How is that my fault again?

SarahP said:
Thank you for this. Without question the funniest thing I’ve read in a long, long time. LMAO!!

With all due respect, your dislike or “humor” at my opinions isn’t something I see as a bad thing. I’d be more worried if you agreed with me.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
the reason her second book isn’t selling is because her supporters haven’t finished reading the first one yet.thanx to ko for that one.

Her “non-selling” book is currently #57 in “Books” on Amazon, and #2 in “Political Books.”

Yes, clearly not selling.

PS- KO’s book… #4,115 in “Books,” and not rated in “Political Books.” On the plus side, I guess he can speak from experience when he talks about books not selling. But still manages to get it wrong.

ImNotBlue said:
How do you figure? I read your stuff hoping that you would write something intelligent and well put together… or at the very least, funny. But it wasn’t.

Genius comeback!!! Bravo!!

You keep working at it skippy. You’ll make it someday.

ImNotBlue said:
How do you figure? I read your stuff hoping that you would write something intelligent and well put together… or at the very least, funny. But it wasn’t.

How is that my fault again?

With all due respect, your dislike or “humor” at my opinions isn’t something I see as a bad thing. I’d be more worried if you agreed with me.

Her “non-selling” book is currently #57 in “Books” on Amazon, and #2 in “Political Books.”

Yes, clearly not selling.

PS- KO’s book… #4,115 in “Books,” and not rated in “Political Books.” On the plus side, I guess he can speak from experience when he talks about books not selling. But still manages to get it wrong.

Well, Imnotblue, worry no more. Of course I don’t agree with you, I’d have to have suffered massive brain injuries to even contemplate such nonsense. You are a clown and I can any assume you are doing your best to be funny. Mission accomplished. LMAO!!

Hawk11 said:
TOP 10 REASONS WHY REPUBLICANS WILL NOT VOTE FOR THIS BILL:

Fact: Who in the hell gets work from the unions that don’t insure or have bondage coverage on their workers? What on the 10,000 pages plus document protects the tax payer from fraud? I’m a republican and I don’t lay out my checkbook to liberals with my signature on all the checks and trust them to do the honest thing! Do you? Sense we have Obamacare and it covers anybody and everybody why do we need separate coverage for 9/11 responders. Should Saudi Arabia where the terrorist home country is from be liable before use of NYC mosque is built or financed? Should that money be used for first responders first before a mosque is built with that same money or aloud to be built before any more mosques are financed by Saudi Arabia? I have questions about those who don’t quit taking advantage of handouts from the almighty government! He didn’t say a deal couldn’t be worked out but it has to be vented!

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Who in the hell gets work from the unions that don’t insure or have bondage coverage on their workers? What on the 10,000 pages plus document protects the tax payer from fraud? I’m a republican and I don’t lay out my checkbook to liberals with my signature on all the checks and trust them to do the honest thing! Do you? Sense we have Obamacare and it covers anybody and everybody why do we need separate coverage for 9/11 responders. Should Saudi Arabia where the terrorist home country is from be liable before use of NYC mosque is built or financed? Should that money be used for first responders first before a mosque is built with that same money or aloud to be built before any more mosques are financed by Saudi Arabia? I have questions about those who don’t quit taking advantage of handouts from the almighty government! He didn’t say a deal couldn’t be worked out but it has to be vented!

You are a racist.

SarahP said:
You are a racist.

Fact: You are armwoods lackey! Why don’t you tell me a story how great socialism takeover of America would be better for first responders while calling me a lower life form than yourself from a black theology point of view! If you can you might have a point!

Why is this bill called “9-11 first responders bill” when its actually a bill to fund healthcare coverage for the clean up people? Billions of dollars for 50,000 + clean up people? Whats next…. government covered healthcare for all mine workers. For the entire population of Los Angelos for breathing all that smog? This is exactly the type of bill that drives our debt up uncontrollably.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: You are armwoods lackey! Why don’t you tell me a story how great socialism takeover of America would be better for first responders while calling me a lower life form than yourself from a black theology point of view! If you can you might have a point!

You are a racist and a low life. Nothing more.

ImNotBlue said:
Her “non-selling” book is currently #57 in “Books” on Amazon, and #2 in “Political Books.”

Yes, clearly not selling.

my bad…i meant to add ‘as well’

JamesA1102 said:
I’m skeptical that Kyl or anyone else who opposes this bill that provides medical care to heros has a soul.

Amen!

Some_Dude said:
They’ve been legislating, discussing, and debating this for a long, long time. Don’t you recall when Republicans first pretended that they were concerned about a procedural issue and denied to bring it to vote? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-efD6wuhHpQ The Republican politicians are bastards, plain and simple.

Good response to Michelle-in-Utah’s drivel.

SarahP said:
You are a racist and a low life. Nothing more.

Fact: Your right I am racist to stupid fuck left nut liberal trash like yourself!

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Your right I am racist to stupid fuck left nut liberal trash like yourself!

And there you have. This POS, known as just4thefax finally admits he is a racist buffoon. Congrats!!

Kyl doesn’t like it because it’s a BS Bill it’s money for stinking unions and their lib cronies.
ALL of the responders on 9/11 have health care provided by NYC and NY State and their union and insurance plans, add that to the billions they got in donations after 9/11 they don’t need any more money, every health care need for them AND their families they could possibly have is already covered.

Just4thefax said:
I’m a republican and I don’t lay out my checkbook to liberals with my signature on all the checks and trust them to do the honest thing! Do you?

I believe you… But you’ll lay it out to conservatives who will just give it to millionaires and billionaires to put in the bank. So good for you. You keep it up.

Jonathan Scott says:

As if we needed anymore evidence that Republicans hate America, here is one.

Jon, no one takes you seriously since you said everyone who disagrees with Obama is a traitor. You exposed yourself for who you really are with that one.

SarahP said:
Well, Imnotblue, worry no more.

I thought I just said that I’m not worried… how can “worry no more,” when I just said I’m not worried?

ChiliPeppersFan said:
my bad…i meant to add ‘as well’

As well as what… milk?

Hawk11 said:
I believe you… But you’ll lay it out to conservatives who will just give it to millionaires and billionaires to put in the bank. So good for you. You keep it up.

Hawk – This dude is nothing less than a racist low life and a homophobe. Check out this assholes comments if there is any doubt. He’s a piece of shit.

ImNotBlue said:
I thought I just said that I’m not worried… how can “worry no more,” when I just said I’m not worried?

As well as what… milk?

It’s a paradox I tell ya. Let me know when you figure it out – I’m assuming I won’t hear from you again.

Sarah, from reading your comments, it would appear you call pretty much everyone who disagrees with you a racist, so that smear has lost some sting.

ImNotBlue said:
Her “non-selling” book is currently #57 in “Books” on Amazon, and #2 in “Political Books.”

Yes, clearly not selling.

PS- KO’s book… #4,115 in “Books,” and not rated in “Political Books.” On the plus side, I guess he can speak from experience when he talks about books not selling. But still manages to get it wrong.

With a “hit” reality show, on going book tour with every stop being covered by nationwide news, being named Barbra Walters’ interesting person featured on a prime time special, appearing on other MSM at will to promote, carte blanche promotion on Fox News, a new release during holiday season…

You have to admit, #57 on Amazon is a BOMB.

Hawk11 said:
I believe you… But you’ll lay it out to conservatives who will just give it to millionaires and billionaires to put in the bank. So good for you. You keep it up.

Fact: I don’t have a millon dollars but hey I don’t need money like that to live well. I know that they have theirs and I have mine but the both of us together don’t owe you or all the other Weiners out their our money! That’s the fact If it’s not yours earn it youselves!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Sarah, from reading your comments, it would appear you call pretty much everyone who disagrees with you a racist, so that smear has lost some sting.

Fact: Parental control doesn’t work on that liberal ones PC!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Sarah, from reading your comments, it would appear you call pretty much everyone who disagrees with you a racist, so that smear has lost some sting.

Read the comments from Just4thefaxs before you make a complete fool of yourself, Maybe too late.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Parental control doesn’t work on that liberal ones PC!

What do you think of the repeal of DADT?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Sarah, from reading your comments, it would appear you call pretty much everyone who disagrees with you a racist, so that smear has lost some sting.

Bet you didn’t know that just4thefax considers homosexuals “fags’ and refers to Hispanics as “wetbacks.” Do you and other “conservatives approve of this?

Just4thefax said:
Fact: I don’t have a millon dollars but hey I don’t need money like that to live well. I know that they have theirs and I have mine but the both of us together don’t owe you or all the other Weiners out their our money! That’s the fact If it’s not yours earn it youselves!

What deludes you into believing I need your money? I pay into the system just like everyone else. I also believe in fiscal conservatism. Taxes need to be paid in order to keep up the things we all take for granted every single day. I’m sure you’ll agree with that. What I believe is that every politician (republican and democrat) that uses our tax money for pet projects should be subject to termination as soon as the public that elected them believes that they have abused the system.
You go on believing that there’s some social disparity between liberals and conservatives, just go ahead. Fact is that there are just as many unemployed conservatives as there are liberals. But if you’re fool enough to believe someone like Rush Limbaugh, cons don’t want to collect unemployment and libs prefer to, then you’re just an outright fool.

Nacho said:
With a “hit” reality show, on going book tour with every stop being covered by nationwide news, being named Barbra Walters’ interesting person featured on a prime time special, appearing on other MSM at will to promote, carte blanche promotion on Fox News, a new release during holiday season… You have to admit, #57 on Amazon is a BOMB.

It’s been in the Amazon Top 100 for 35 days.

We should all “bomb” so well…

SarahP said:
What do you think of the repeal of DADT?

Fact: What do you want? Do they need extra money from the government to because they take it up the ass for America? Go tell mama or dada what your doing on the PC!

SarahP said:
Bet you didn’t know that just4thefax considers homosexuals “fags’ and refers to Hispanics as “wetbacks.” Do you and other “conservatives approve of this?

I guess you do. So now we know that conservatives are basically racist and bigoted. Something to tell your grandchildren.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: What do you want? Do they need extra money from the government to because they take it up the ass for America? Go tell mama or dada what your doing on the PC!

You are a racist and homophobic. Nothing more.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: What do you want? Do they need extra money from the government to because they take it up the ass for America? Go tell mama or dada what your doing on the PC!

I think we finally got this piece of shit to show himself for what he really is. Where are the conservatives?

Those of the “first responders” to the islamic terrorist attack on the WTC should be compensated in accordance with their injuries, and I have NO doubt that monies will be allocated for such compensation.

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SarahP said:
I think we finally got this piece of shit to show himself for what he really is. Where are the conservatives?

At least 4 “conservatives” and counting agree with this pos, just4thefax that homosexuals are “fags.” This really isn’t a surprise. You “conservatives’ who remain silent are to put it mildly, pathetic. This is why you will eventually become extinct. God speed.

Hawk11 said:
What deludes you into believing I need your money? I pay into the system just like everyone else. I also believe in fiscal conservatism. Taxes need to be paid in order to keep up the things we all take for granted every single day. I’m sure you’ll agree with that. What I believe is that every politician (republican and democrat) that uses our tax money for pet projects should be subject to termination as soon as the public that elected them believes that they have abused the system.You go on believing that there’s some social disparity between liberals and conservatives, just go ahead. Fact is that there are just as many unemployed conservatives as there are liberals. But if you’re fool enough to believe someone like Rush Limbaugh, cons don’t want to collect unemployment and libs prefer to, then you’re just an outright fool.

Fact: 1.) Spend less so you don’t need to raise more tax money first, Be an adult make adult decisions with tax money.

2.) Fix tax codes so that taxes are gathered and spent wisely second. Don’t have tax code manuals like liberals spending bills. Too long to read and have so much legal mumbo jumbo in it not one person knows all the loopholes that lead to loopholes. Fair and balanced like Fox news! Right!

3.) Never any double taxation like estate tax. Period! Money capital flows best without being dammed up by greedy hands!

4.) Run true balanced budgets like I’m forced to do at home. I don’t have the money I can’t have it!

5.) Fair tax or consumption tax instead of income tax should be used before borrowing from other countries! I’m an embarrassed American that my country borrows from China. Pathetic!

6.) If all to cover cost of security and real government programs needed to maintain our country then find a way for all to pay their share like what democrats claim that we live in a democracy all pay the same amount evenly across the board and base entitlements that are needed as a last luxury for people not the first!

ImNotBlue said:
It’s been in the Amazon Top 100 for 35 days.

We should all “bomb” so well…

Yeah, I did about 5 minutes ago… Nobody go in there btw

It didn’t even take 7million or all the press .

Horizon3 said:
Kyl doesn’t like it because it’s a BS Bill it’s money for stinking unions and their lib cronies.ALL of the responders on 9/11 have health care provided by NYC and NY State and their union and insurance plans, add that to the billions they got in donations after 9/11 they don’t need any more money, every health care need for them AND their families they could possibly have is already covered.

What you are sayingis not true. This is money for people that volunteered to help out. Not the people that were paid (firemen/police/etc.) These are people with no health care.

Just4thefax said:
Just4thefax says:

Instead of copying and pasting everything you wrote, i’ll simply tell you that the reason taxes go up is because of republicans. They like to keep cutting taxes to put more money in th pockets of the rich. Then when money needs to be spent by democrats to make up for the mistakes made by republicans it’s blamed on the democrats.

George H.W. Bush knew what a fuck up Reagan’s tax cuts were and had to raise taxes knowing there was no other way to bail the country out. Clinton balanced the budget and left the country with a surplus and a very healthy economy. Then came Bush Jr. nothing needs to be said about that. Go ahead and blame Obama for whatever you want, it still takes time to clean up 8 years of fuck ups.

You want to fix Washington, start with getting rid of the lobbyists. There should be no contact between our elected officials and the influence of money and favors.

I agree with you on needing our tax codes redone, but dammit, quit blaming one side of the aisle. Both sides need to be fixed.

Hawk11 said:
Instead of copying and pasting everything you wrote, i’ll simply tell you that the reason taxes go up is because of republicans. …

Nonsense.

Reagan’s tax cuts brought us out of the problems created by Carter.

The Clinton economy thrived because of other economic factors, namely the Internet boom… it had nothing to do with him. During his Presidency, the Internet hit it’s high point, but began to fall near the end as the bubble burst. New industry was responsible for the flourishing economy, not Clinton.

During the early GWBush years, the economy looked like it was going to continue to fall, but rebounded after 9/11, and did well until the later part of his Presidency, as the housing market started to falter.

As for lobbyists… how many work in Pres. Obama’s administration, again?

But as for both sides needing to be “fixed” or at blame for the negative aspects of the economy… on that you’re right.

Hawk11 said:
when money needs to be spent by democrats

Fact: I watched a CSPAN broadcast years ago on the bill that was discussed that day was about the use of the capitals automatic elevators. Republicans didn’t want or need to have automatic elevator operators to do the operating of their elevator that they had the skills to do it by themselves. Most of these that operate elevators are a paid lobbyist that ask you what floor are you going too It then pitch you a deal or so. To democrats it became a needed entitlement for the democrats that couldn’t do it for themselves. The democrats eloquently pointed out that one of their members had to walk the farthest to use this service to ensure that they could make the allotted time to make a vote on the floor. They simply couldn’t push the button for themselves to go down to the floor and vote thus unable operate them. The democrats fought to keep these people plus give them their needed raise for the hard work they did. This debate lasted three are more hours and involved both parties that didn’t compromise on it so it came time and it was decided it was time to put it to a vote. Hooray for the democrats that day they won it. What a waste of tax payers money and they are still today the same pitiful bunch! So I watch CSPAN sometimes I know who’s who between the two parties!

Horizon3 said:
Kyl doesn’t like it because it’s a BS Bill it’s money for stinking unions and their lib cronies.
ALL of the responders on 9/11 have health care provided by NYC and NY State and their union and insurance plans, add that to the billions they got in donations after 9/11 they don’t need any more money, every health care need for them AND their families they could possibly have is already covered.

you should check out a wonderful movie called Sicko by a fine, up and coming documentarist named michaelmoore. there are interviews with 9/11 rescue workers who weren’t able to get government funds for their respiratory and psychological ills so the kind and benevolent moore takes them to cuba for cheap care.

really, check it out sometime.

Just4thefax said:
Just4thefax says

Congrats fax… You are Glenn Beck. You are Rush Limbaugh. You are Sean Hannity. You are Sarah Palin. You are FOX and Friends.

Now, while you may find that a compliment I’m also sure you can look deep down and figure out the spirit in which it was intended. You spin everything to one side. You look upon government as having the good and evil allegory of a Star Wars movie. You choose your side and see the painted picture the director wants you to see. To be in a cave and and not grasp what this particular thread is about, but just take one side blindly. The measure of a man is how one reacts when his back is against the wall. Yours, unfortunately is not to think for yourself, but to take the views of a particular group and not seek to see if one version is all there is. But it’s not just your shortcoming. There are many many others here. This isn’t arrogance, this is observation.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
of course kyl is skeptical cuz he thinks the first responders are just trying to pull one over and get more money…obviously those brave men and women only think about themselves…those selfish bastards.

No, it isn’t the first responders he’s worried about, it’s the Democrats. If they weren’t playing games with this bill, it would have been signed into law weeks ago. Alas, “cheat and demonize” is the new Democrat motto. Dumb people buy it.

SarahP said:
At least 4 “conservatives” and counting agree with this pos, just4thefax that homosexuals are “fags.”

That’s not right. Half of them are dykes.

I’m convinced SarahP is a naive teenage girl. Or Tommy Christopher.

Hawk11 said:
To be in a cave and and not grasp

Fact: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6xscuS9H8U

I love how conservatives think bush can do no wrong while the good done by dems are from other existing factors. Most conservatives are sheep while the true conservatives in thus country are drowned out nuts like rush and beck

I bet Kyl didn’t require a lot of time to add his $200million pork to the previous bills. But when it comes to spending money on real project(people), Kyl requires a lot more time. When are the people going to wake up that these jokers are in there for themselves and those who contribute to their campaign (legalise bribery). They’ve shown again and again that people who sacrifice for the country should be put at the back of the queue while the wealth are their main priority.

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The Republicans are correct to question this bill. Billions of $ for a couple of hundred “First Responders?” No this bill will quickly morph to include anyone within 100 miles of Ground Zero who has had a cold during the last 10 years. Look at the Pigford settlement. Originally settled for 400 farmers, now over 100,000 are seeking money from the American taxpayer by the latest Pigford legislation.

ImNotBlue said:
You realize that the first responders didn’t actually write the bill… right? You also realize that there have been a number of fraudulent claims of injury and illness among fake-first responders (people saying they were there, who weren’t really there)… right? And you realize that Congress has a nasty habit of creating a bill with an attractive label, but filling it up with a lot of unrelated nonsense (earmarks, gifts to unions, funding for unrelated causes, etc.), and then using the good element to make the other side look bad… right? A good example of this is Obamacare… the bill was how big, and yet if you hear Obama or the Democrats speak, all that was involved was increasing the parental care age to 26, and the end of pre-existing condition denials. I’m a New Yorker, and helping first responders is something I wholly support… but trusting Reid or Pelosi to do it right… no, I think not.

Since you like to take shots at others, why not try this: Instead of glittering generalities about why the bill might be bad, why don’t you actually read HR 847 and then get to and post SPECIFIC objections you have to the bill? Or is it simply to easy to take pot shots at everyone, even though you have no facts to support your contention?

Pablo said:
No, it isn’t the first responders he’s worried about, it’s the Democrats. If they weren’t playing games with this bill, it would have been signed into law weeks ago. Alas, “cheat and demonize” is the new Democrat motto. Dumb people buy it.

What are these “games” you speak of? Again, what is the exact problem with HR 847?

How can Congress not care for these people whose health was damaged? I was there on 9/11 and
saw what they did.

Dearly beloved:

First I would like to compliment ModerateMan for being one of the few who picked up on the illustrative point made by J. Kyl, about whom the bill is meant to benefit. Attend:

ModerateMan said:
Why is this bill called “9-11 first responders bill” when its actually a bill to fund healthcare coverage for the clean up people? Billions of dollars for 50,000 + clean up people? Whats next…. government covered healthcare for all mine workers. For the entire population of Los Angelos for breathing all that smog? This is exactly the type of bill that drives our debt up uncontrollably.

See, we shouldn’t worry. It’s only the clean-up crew we’re talking about, you know the ones George Bush was so eager to stand with on the rubble heap of metal and flesh.
We’re not talking about all the firemen, police, etc. who worked on and off the clock as clean-up crew at the site.
Oh, yes we are.
So why would someone want to fool us into thinking the following: the clean-up crew was not composed of first responders, and if is was ONLY the cleaning lady, whoops, cleaning crew it’s no big deal.
Once again I’m left breathless.

The avatar is simply a reminder of who the clean-up crew was. Why do I feel the shadowy presence of Frank Luntz hovering over the delicate switch in naming those who risked their lives to find the remains of those who died at 9-11?

I appreciate Sen. Kyl’s skepticism! We should take of people with healthcare issues that could be directly attributed to their actions on 9/11. But a life time healthcare plan for anyone who says they were at ground zero is an over reach. In any group of people certain diseases are going to naturally occur. Diseases like mesothelioma, and silicosis are obvious candidates for coverage. But blanket coverage leaves taxpayers open to the next argument.
What about covering anyone in the buildings that day? What about anyone in the street when the buildings fell. How about anyone on the island that day? What about anyone down wind of the the buildings for as far as any lawyer can show dust might have flown.
Some common sense needs to be used in this decision.

Bronco46 said:
I appreciate Sen. Kyl’s skepticism! We should take of people with healthcare issues that could be directly attributed to their actions on 9/11. But a life time healthcare plan for anyone who says they were at ground zero is an over reach. In any group of people certain diseases are going to naturally occur. Diseases like mesothelioma, and silicosis are obvious candidates for coverage. But blanket coverage leaves taxpayers open to the next argument.What about covering anyone in the buildings that day? What about anyone in the street when the buildings fell. How about anyone on the island that day? What about anyone down wind of the the buildings for as far as any lawyer can show dust might have flown.Some common sense needs to be used in this decision.

Third time I have asked this: What are your specific objections to HR 847? If you actually read the bill your “common sense” issue has been address. Instead, you come in with more mindless flights of fancy!

Pablo said:
No, it isn’t the first responders he’s worried about, it’s the Democrats. If they weren’t playing games with this bill, it would have been signed into law weeks ago. Alas, “cheat and demonize” is the new Democrat motto. Dumb people buy it.

No, they buy this post.

ImNotBlue said:
You’re very funny Hawk! You should write for SNL or the Daily Show… really, anywhere but on this website were others might have to actually read your hyper-partisan and foolish tripe.

You may be seeing it… but I certainly didn’t say it. Methinks you should quit trying to read between the lines, and spend more time reading the ACTUAL lines.

Republicans wasted far too much money, and got beat up for it in 2006 and 2008… and rightfully so. However, the Democrats didn’t do any better, and simply continued what the Republicans had started.

But that’s not really the point. The point is that a bill shouldn’t be rushed through Congress, by either party, without ample debate and review. Both parties want to waste money and reward their “friends,” and the only way to prevent that is to have checks and balances in the form of review by all members of Congress. What’s wrong with that?

If this bill was written by Kyl, or McConnell, or any other Republican… would you (and the other lefties) be saying the same thing? Would you call for the bill to be rushed through… or would you have your doubts, and call for review? I know where I would stand (same place as I’m at now), and I’m pretty sure where you’d stand.

Oh, and just for clarity sake… how did Republicans “waste money” in Gitmo (which has been kept open by the Obama Administration), tax cuts (which were just re-upped by Democrats, and pushed by the Obama and Clinton), or in an attempt to privatize Social Security (which you think debating cost money)? You’re throwing out the typical talking points, but your not quick understanding what you’re talking about.

Starting off with Gitmo, the fact that it has been kept open for this long costs us money. The more we stay there, it costs us more. Besides We got Gitmo from Cuba and promised in the treaty that we would release it back in 100 years. But have we? Yes i understand Cuba isn’t our friend. But how would we feel if someone broke our treaty? And yes i understand Obama has kept it open and it will cost us more and i blame Obama for keeping it open for longer.

With the tax cuts, if you show me any statistics showing that there was SIGNIFICANT economic boom that were caused by tax cuts( and not the loosening of credit , which happened at the same point), and if it is true, then you win that arguement

And with Social Security, Privatizing comes with its own risks and problems, and a huge majority of people are against it. Social Security privatization won’t happen anytime in near future, if any of republicans want to do it.. and I am sure people will be against it.

The Major point i made, which you missed is, do you really trust to republicans to actually look at the bill and actually make sure democrats aren’t wasting money, when they have been wasting money for so long? I mean don’t Democrats and Republicans fit into the same political class?

I am a socialist myself and i don’t affiliate myself with democrats, FYI.

ImNotBlue said:
Nonsense.

Reagan’s tax cuts brought us out of the problems created by Carter.

The Clinton economy thrived because of other economic factors, namely the Internet boom… it had nothing to do with him. During his Presidency, the Internet hit it’s high point, but began to fall near the end as the bubble burst. New industry was responsible for the flourishing economy, not Clinton.

During the early GWBush years, the economy looked like it was going to continue to fall, but rebounded after 9/11, and did well until the later part of his Presidency, as the housing market started to falter.

As for lobbyists… how many work in Pres. Obama’s administration, again?

But as for both sides needing to be “fixed” or at blame for the negative aspects of the economy… on that you’re right.

i wouldn’t consider the internet bubble to have been the only factor in growing the economy. Below is the Nasdaq Composite index, and my interpretation is that the dot com bubble didn’t really started gaining speed until 1995. Also I am very sure that there was economic growth before the bubble. And talking Obama’s lobbyists.. what would you expect? Don’t the Dems come from the same class as Repubs?
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