I think Ron Paul supports the State’s rights to legislate the legality of drugs. He supports treating drug use as a health problem and not a criminal problem. If you find a longer interview where Paul go into depth with the drug issue you see he has a very rational nuanced position.

I agree, Frances. Paul’s answer was more simplistic, but that’s how soundbites work and Paul is very good at this.

Johnson is amazing, and I wish he was given more challenging questions. He has an amazing record as Governor.

My quote of the GOP debate:

BAIER (TO jOHNSON): IF YOU WERE A REALITY SHOW WHAT KIND WOULD YOU BE?

JOHNSON: NOT THE KIND WHERE I CRAWL ON MY HANDS AND KNEES ON THE ICE.

SMACKDOWN!!!lol!!

I saw the debate and I think Paul had the best answers.

Frances, I suggest you pop the bubble you live in, look up the word liberty and then look up the word libertarian perhaps then you won’t be suprised how it concluded with him (Paul) supporting legalization of heroin

“Rep. Ron Paul’s steadfast adherence to civil liberties, which somehow concluded with him supporting legalization of heroin to raucous applause”

What do you mean “somehow” concluded. A steadfast adherence to civil liberties naturally follows supporting drug legalization.

They weren’t clapping to use of heroin, they were clapping to him saying the government doesn’t have to be involved. Silly mediaite.

WaterLoo said:
Frances, I suggest you pop the bubble you live in, look up the word liberty and then look up the word libertarian perhaps then you won’t be suprised how it concluded with him (Paul) supporting legalization of heroin

I’ve been a registered Libertarian for years, and I didn’t read this as Frances being surprised at Johnson or Paul’s stance. Everybody knows their views on personal liberty.

I read this as contrasting two takes on legalizing. One a freedom of choice stance(Paul) and the other an economics stance(Johnson).

One does have to admit that hearing cheers from the audience of a Republican debate over freedom to use drugs is pretty awesome.

jbeast said:
They weren’t clapping to use of heroin, they were clapping to him saying the government doesn’t have to be involved. Silly mediaite.

Indeed.

The people who use heroin already use it, there is no deterrent large enough to stop someone who wants to do heroin to stop them from doing heroin, that person is ill already before doing a single hit. If anything keeping it unregulated keeps the US from taxing it and puts money in the pockets of drug lords of countries who aren’t big fans of ours. The people who are doing the drug can only purchase a very expensive version of the drug because of the lack of access to it, which leads to drug related crimes, if it were sold commercially it would be far less expensive and more accessible and still wouldn’t be sold to children.

RhapsodyinBlue said:
The people who use heroin already use it, there is no deterrent large enough to stop someone who wants to do heroin to stop them from doing heroin, that person is ill already before doing a single hit. If anything keeping it unregulated keeps the US from taxing it and puts money in the pockets of drug lords of countries who aren’t big fans of ours. The people who are doing the drug can only purchase a very expensive version of the drug because of the lack of access to it, which leads to drug related crimes, if it were sold commercially it would be far less expensive and more accessible and still wouldn’t be sold to children.

Actually, I agree that heroin should be de criminalized. But you’re wrong on the price. I’m from Philadelphia and we’ve had a heroin epidemic since the 80′s. It’s VERY cheap, VERY pure, and VERY easy to get.

Since we’ve declared a “War” on drugs, heroin has gotten cheaper. The war on drugs is a failed war costing billions every year.

turk281 said:
I’ve been a registered Libertarian for years, and I didn’t read this as Frances being surprised at Johnson or Paul’s stance. Everybody knows their views on personal liberty.

I read this as contrasting two takes on legalizing. One a freedom of choice stance(Paul) and the other an economics stance(Johnson).

One does have to admit that hearing cheers from the audience of a Republican debate over freedom to use drugs is pretty awesome.

Eh – actually it kinda scared me. I don’t want GOP debates to turn into libertarian cheer-fests. I’d like to think I lean libertarian, but I’m not Gary Johnson or Ron Paul arena. Ron Paul has a loyal following that tends to “buy out” events or shout down people – from what I’ve seen/heard, they can also be not nice people in real life. I’m sure RP has some lovely fans, but RP and GJ are dunzo after that debate.

Herman Cain was the dial winner for the night. Spin that media. :)

*crickets*

turk281 said:
I’ve been a registered Libertarian for years, and I didn’t read this as Frances being surprised at Johnson or Paul’s stance. Everybody knows their views on personal liberty.

I read this as contrasting two takes on legalizing. One a freedom of choice stance(Paul) and the other an economics stance(Johnson).

One does have to admit that hearing cheers from the audience of a Republican debate over freedom to use drugs is pretty awesome.

That said, I think you’ve been a very fair person on this site and you add intelligence to the debates on this site – from a libertarian perspective. And I respect you all the more for it.

*done fawning you with attention now…haha*

@Raygun: “somehow concluded with… raucous applause”

Newsjunky said:
*crickets*

Best post you’ve ever made.

Jon Stewart Checks In with Sarah Palin and Donald Trump

On the night Republican presidential contenders duked it out in South Carolina, Jon Stewart opened The Daily Show with a segment about Sarah Palin and Donald Trump, two potential GOP candidates who didn’t take part in the debate. So what are “the Tom Arnold and Roseanne Barr of the Republican field” up to

http://gawker.com/#!5799195/jon-stewart-checks-in-with-sarah-palin-and-donald-trump

WCinWI said:
Herman Cain was the dial winner for the night. Spin that media. :)

The far left Fox haters are already claiming it was “fixed.” LOL!

WCinWI said:
Eh – actually it kinda scared me. I don’t want GOP debates to turn into libertarian cheer-fests. I’d like to think I lean libertarian, but I’m not Gary Johnson or Ron Paul arena. Ron Paul has a loyal following that tends to “buy out” events or shout down people – from what I’ve seen/heard, they can also be not nice people in real life. I’m sure RP has some lovely fans, but RP and GJ are dunzo after that debate.

Herman Cain was the dial winner for the night. Spin that media. :)

I hear ya. Sometimes Paul fans can be obnoxious. That being said, I respect Paul for slowly forcing mainstream republicans toward the side of liberty. In a perfect world…

But Johnson really does seem electable to me and he has a record to prove it!

I like Cains fiscal stances, but his social stances scare me. And Santorum – I don’t like him at all.

Ditto on respect.

meena140 said:
Jon Stewart Checks In with Sarah Palin and Donald Trump

On the night Republican presidential contenders duked it out in South Carolina, Jon Stewart opened The Daily Show with a segment about Sarah Palin and Donald Trump, two potential GOP candidates who didn’t take part in the debate. So what are “the Tom Arnold and Roseanne Barr of the Republican field” up to

http://gawker.com/#!5799195/jon-stewart-checks-in-with-sarah-palin-and-donald-trump

She was too busy helping the residents of Alabama today.

http://barbaricthoughts.com/2011/05/video-the-palins-volunteer-for-samaritans-purse/

http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/Christian_News/Christian_Opinion/A_PICTURE_OF_SERVANT_LEADERSHIP_AT_ITS_FINEST/44707

Where’s the photo of Obama getting his hands dirty in AL?

turk281 said:
I hear ya. Sometimes Paul fans can be obnoxious. That being said, I respect Paul for slowly forcing mainstream republicans toward the side of liberty. In a perfect world…

But Johnson really does seem electable to me and he has a record to prove it!

I like Cains fiscal stances, but his social stances scare me. And Santorum – I don’t like him at all.

Ditto on respect.

I’m conflicted. Overall, I like the following people:

Paul Ryan
Rand Paul
Sarah Palin
Allen West
Gov. Scott Walker
Herman Cain

I think the people above represent people of good heart, good intention, the desire to do good and overall add to the debates of all? Do I think any of them will win hands down? No. But given today’s media climate, I don’t know who could. We’re in a weird political time.

That said, those are the people that right now, I could see myself both voting for and volunteering long and hard hours. And I have interned in politics before. But that was in CA – not exactly a Conservative bastion. :)

turk281 said:
I’ve been a registered Libertarian for years, and I didn’t read this as Frances being surprised at Johnson or Paul’s stance. Everybody knows their views on personal liberty. I read this as contrasting two takes on legalizing. One a freedom of choice stance(Paul) and the other an economics stance(Johnson). One does have to admit that hearing cheers from the audience of a Republican debate over freedom to use drugs is pretty awesome.

Raygun said:
“Rep. Ron Paul’s steadfast adherence to civil liberties, which somehow concluded with him supporting legalization of heroin to raucous applause” What do you mean “somehow” concluded. A steadfast adherence to civil liberties naturally follows supporting drug legalization.

Interesting Turk, while I tend to agree with most your posts, as I too am a libertarian, I interpreted the article as Raygun. In my opinion, either way you look at it, less government involvement or on a cost benefit analysis, it shouldn’t be shocking should either of these 2 candidates “somehow” conclude with supporting the legalization of drugs. I do agree though, the libertarian cheers from the crowd were pleasantly surprising.

turk281 said:
I hear ya. Sometimes Paul fans can be obnoxious. That being said, I respect Paul for slowly forcing mainstream republicans toward the side of liberty. In a perfect world…

But Johnson really does seem electable to me and he has a record to prove it!

I like Cains fiscal stances, but his social stances scare me. And Santorum – I don’t like him at all.

Ditto on respect.

Johnson means well, but I think a better candidate can articulate some of his ideas. Or at least where he’s trying to go with them. That’s why I like Palin and Rand Paul. They have a younger form of libertarianism to me. And I like that tilt that is brought to the debate. I don’t know if this is the election cycle or the next will be the libertarian move in the R party but that’s where I see it going.

Did you see when Johnson tonight asked the panel to ask him more questions and felt snubbed? That came off petty to me.

turk281 said:
Actually, I agree that heroin should be de criminalized. But you’re wrong on the price. I’m from Philadelphia and we’ve had a heroin epidemic since the 80’s. It’s VERY cheap, VERY pure, and VERY easy to get.

Since we’ve declared a “War” on drugs, heroin has gotten cheaper. The war on drugs is a failed war costing billions every year.

I’ve never been in the market for heroin so I’ll have to take your word for it. I’ve heard the heroin currently available for the cheap prices is what they sell to rubes so cranked up out of their minds they’ll buy anything. Also, when you’re homeless, everything is expensive.

Wow, the Faux News Republican Presidential interviews began tonight, I wonder who’ll they’ll pick?

lucky5 said:
I saw the debate and I think Paul had the best answers.

Hannity and his focus group don’t agree with you. Not that means anything

turk281 said:
I hear ya. Sometimes Paul fans can be obnoxious. That being said, I respect Paul for slowly forcing mainstream republicans toward the side of liberty. In a perfect world… But Johnson really does seem electable to me and he has a record to prove it! I like Cains fiscal stances, but his social stances scare me. And Santorum – I don’t like him at all. Ditto on respect.

I most admit I know nothing about Johnson (I’ll have to look into it), but he came off as kind of a clown to me during the debates. I did listen to him talk about issues (after the debate) and he sounded 100 times better.

Tedderman said:
I wonder who’ll they’ll pick?

I’m assuming you’re referring to Fox and who will Fox pick. It is very obvious, the candidates are the puppets and Fox is the puppeteer. All the candidates for the exception of Romney and Trump are or have been on Fox’s payroll. Surprise!

Truth said:
Hannity and his focus group don’t agree with you. Not that means anything

His social group was comprised of the type of social conservative that will decide the SC primary result. They liked Cain, claiming he gave clear answers, but he actually just responded to questions with platitudes and vagueness.

He did better than Pawlenty, who comes off as a GOP shill no matter how much he gets referred to as the sole ‘serious candidate’ of the 5 on the stage tonight; every answer he gave sounded like what his estimation of what would please the largest number of TV viewers, regardless of his own beliefs.

I liked Cain. Don’t know a thing about him, but I enjoyed his answers and his mannerism.

Will have to find out more about the man.

Enjoyed the debate.

Why is the headline “Ron Paul defends Heroin”? Paul’s position on drug use is know to everyone who follows politics. He is defending state’s rights to determine drug legality and whether to treat drugs as a heath or criminal issue. He is not “defending heroin” as this blogger claims. I thought it was the job of a journalist to inform the reader and it seems this writer has done no research. Why are you paid again?

I think Romney et. al were wrong to not attend. As a result, Ron Paul pretty much won it on his own.

Who do you think won the debate?
Poll: http://www.wepolls.com/r/153407/Who-won-May-fifth
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Ron Paul – I feel like he is a member of my family. He is extremely important to me and he is an honorary FOUNDER of this USA to me, and he is a personal HERO of mine. We can only hope to get an honest man who would not let the banking cabals, the NWO globalists and the oligarchical collectivists completely destroy our freedom, liberty, constitution and country. Ron Paul, for the win.

Nice spin Frances; there’s no one who can take remarks out of context more adeptly than you!

I’m NOT a Ron Paul supporter, but I heard the response that Ron Paul gave and understood the context in which he gave it. What Dr. Paul said was that drug laws are a matter for states to decide. He didn’t have time to explain his rationale but I think had he done so, he might have cited these facts:

1. The so-called “war on drugs” as instituted by the Federal government has been a failure since its inceptiion. The reason it has been a failure is because it is impossible to legislate morality. Try as you may, there are some people who would become addicts no matter what laws were passed.

2. Most of the crime in the US is drug related, and the US has the highest incarceration rate of any country on Earth.

3. Most of the violence on the US/Mexico border is caused by drug runners, and those criminal aliens in the US who are also members of gangs e.g. MS-13 are dealing drugs. Legalizing drugs destroys the incentive of the Mexican drug cartels and every drug dealer within our borders.

4. That drugs are illegal causes spin-off crimes e.g. theft, burglary, and prostitution, which creates more victims and more suffering. Drugs are extraordinarily cheap to produce, but because they’re illegal, drugs are a multi-billion dollar business in the US and all the economic drains on the Treasury (enforcement, human suffering, incarceration, etc.) drains billions of tax dollars that could well be used on more important things. Also, if drugs were legal, people would not have to resort to crime or become victims of pimps, etc. to feed their habits. A lot of suffering could be prevented…a LOT of suffering.

Still, however, I think our government should sponsor programs to encourage people to not waste their lives by using drugs and to help addicts get–and STAY–clean, if it’s their desire to do so.

In all, human suffering and the drain on the US Treasury would be reduced probably by 90% if drugs were legalized, but as is typical with our idiots in government, they can’t seem to understand that drugs laws are about the same as prohibition laws–a humongous waste of time.

mickrussom said:
Ron Paul, for the win.

I think I understand your sentiment toward Dr. Paul, even though I’m not yet convinced I can vote FOR him. He would, however, get my vote if he won the Republican nomination, although I would be voting AGAINST “dear leader -0bama.”

In tonite’s debate, I most liked what Herman Cain had to say. I’d like to hear more.

For 150 years now, our only choice has been Democrats and Republicans–it’s probably past time when we gave a Libertarian a shot at running things. Hell, it couldn’t get any worse!

zadoc said:
I think Romney et. al were wrong to not attend. As a result, Ron Paul pretty much won it on his own. Who do you think won the debate?Poll: http://www.wepolls.com/r/153407/Who-won-May-fifthClick to vote

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WCinWI said:
Did you see when Johnson tonight asked the panel to ask him more questions and felt snubbed? That came off petty to me.

Oddly enough, I didn’t think Johnson was being petty. I was watching the debate and wondering why the panel was snubbing him. If you will recall, the same thing happened to Duncan Hunter, in the early 2008 debates. He couldn’t get his message out and therefore he never gained any traction–and he had a pretty darned good message!

“All the candidates for the exception of Romney and Trump are or have been on Fox’s payroll. Surprise!”

And every single dem is and or has been on the payroll of CNN and MSNBC……..

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Ron Paul is OUR cross to bear and the dems have their Bernie Sanders. It’s a virtual tie as to which one is a bigger whackjob.

@X-3: I seem to be missing the part where Frances says she disagrees with Rep. Paul and I also fail to see what statements from other forums has to do with the debate last night.

@X-3 – ETA: Of course as an advocate for legalization and/or decriminalization, I’ll give you kudos for getting some of the pro argument into the forum.

Afghani herion addicts applaud you, Mr Paul.

Actually, I thought Pawlenty’s discussion about Team Obama’s audacity of telling a private company that they cannot open business in SC was the best. it really is alarming; I wonder why no media outlets have covered that over reach of Obama’s? bwahahahaha

So funny how you pick the slightest story rather than the greatest story to report on, in order to protect the great democrat/journolist cult leader.

The War on Drugs is a fraud, fiasco, flop, failure FUBAR and snaFu.

Good debate…
Cain won big… T-Paw was a close second…

Kllwhiteybabies said:
haha debate what debate ? on Foxy News ??!! Obama is a shoe in Fox News tried all it could to make up look bad from Becks: “He hates whites” to Birther shit Fox failed. They tried this during the election with McCain & all I can remember was the Fox New’s own reporters & talking head saying “The election is over, just look at him & his supporters” That was in referance to Sen. McCain’s speech in front of an ugly lime green in some gym @ a highschool. The crowd looked bored & defeated…remember his line “That’s not the hope we can believe in” haha. The following day Obama was in Germany with over 1 million cheering people … Have none of you asked why no “top” GOP has said they’re running? Why waste time & effort against a man who said “My main job is to get Osama & take him out” during his run for office AND HE FVKN DID IT! AND! the right leaning news corp owned WSJ reported Obama will raise OVER 1 BILLION thanks to the change in donation. Something the GOP thought would help them not the Dems. Obama is getting millions from overseas groups ..thnks Fox & the GOP ! hahaha

Too bad you’ve got ALL the answers, yet you havn’t a clue….

Paul has it totally correct. Let people in a free society decide whether they want to drink, smoke, or use drugs, and save the tens of billions we spend on enforcement on medical care for the small number that become addicts.

That old bastard can’t win. Besides, most Americans are into a prohibitionist mood with their war against obesity, tobacco, salt, trans fats, etc, etc, etc. Hitler would love New York today.

http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/2011/04/does-your-doctor-need-more-training.html

Barack Must Go said:
Too bad you’ve got ALL the answers, yet you havn’t a clue….

Yep. English seems to be missing.

And so it begins…fringe conservatives will be pushed out of the party while moderates on the right suddenly begin exclaiming that they’ve embraced libertarian principles all along.

Tedderman said:
Wow, the Faux News Republican Presidential interviews began tonight, I wonder who’ll they’ll pick?

I really can’t wait for the CNN Democratic debates.

WCinWI said:
Eh – actually it kinda scared me. I don’t want GOP debates to turn into libertarian cheer-fests. I’d like to think I lean libertarian, but I’m not Gary Johnson or Ron Paul arena. Ron Paul has a loyal following that tends to “buy out” events or shout down people – from what I’ve seen/heard, they can also be not nice people in real life. I’m sure RP has some lovely fans, but RP and GJ are dunzo after that debate. Herman Cain was the dial winner for the night. Spin that media. :)

Cain probably sunk his chances a couple months ago by making anti-Islamic comments that are going to get repeated over and over and over once the mudslinging starts.

WCinWI said:
I’m conflicted. Overall, I like the following people: Paul RyanRand PaulSarah PalinAllen WestGov. Scott WalkerHerman Cain I think the people above represent people of good heart, good intention, the desire to do good and overall add to the debates of all? Do I think any of them will win hands down? No. But given today’s media climate, I don’t know who could. We’re in a weird political time. That said, those are the people that right now, I could see myself both voting for and volunteering long and hard hours. And I have interned in politics before. But that was in CA – not exactly a Conservative bastion. :)

Right now, I honestly think I like Allen West more than anyone else. He says he refuses to run, and no, he’s probably nowhere near me on social stances, but I’m not willing to spend this country even farther into the shitter just to support someone more relaxed on social issues.

Santorum, however, he’s right the f*** out, since he’s Mr. “Homosexuality = Bestiality”.

Never thought of heroin as an exercise in liberty. Must re-evaluate.

writer said:
Never thought of heroin as an exercise in liberty. Must re-evaluate.

Being an idiot is a God given right. I’m with the Darwinists on this one.

I’ve heard it is a great pain killer.

Kllwhiteybabies said:
hahah the ol bigot is back man you have noooooooooooooo life all you do is post on here & blame Obama for everything. You even bitched after Bin Laden was off’d hey if you get the runs is that also Obama’s doing? Man I hope when I get your age I don’t spend my golden years like you are : fat, old, no money, sitting in front of a pc for HOURS posting on a website. See when I retire in like 40 yrs I & my wife paid for a nice home in St. Lucia that we rent out now & plan on chilln there when we retire. Man I wish there were death panels to remove all the old white people from America things would be better off for everyone ..old whites are fukn shit up for the rest of us DIE ! JUST FVKN DIE PLEASE !

A face drawn on your fist with a Sharpie doesn’t actually mean YOU have an actual wife you know. Even when you chop the hair off your little sis’s barbie dolls and drape it over your knuckles. jus sayin Killa…….or would prefer Charlie Rangel Jr. wannabe?

Barack Must Go said:
A face drawn on your fist with a Sharpie doesn’t actually mean YOU have an actual wife you know. Even when you chop the hair off your little sis’s barbie dolls and drape it over your knuckles. jus sayin Killa…….or would prefer Charlie Rangel Jr. wannabe?

I can’t even bring myself to read or respond to any post by that horror you responded to. I did ask them to remove his name – there is no place on a well known web site for something like that. We aren’t talking some backwoods blog – unacceptable.

If we don’t inform mediate of our objection to a crazy racist – then we are no better than he is.
Please everyone, drop mediaite a note and let them know that his chatter and his nom de plume are unacceptable.

WCinWI said:
Eh – actually it kinda scared me. I don’t want GOP debates to turn into libertarian cheer-fests. I’d like to think I lean libertarian, but I’m not Gary Johnson or Ron Paul arena. Ron Paul has a loyal following that tends to “buy out” events or shout down people – from what I’ve seen/heard, they can also be not nice people in real life. I’m sure RP has some lovely fans, but RP and GJ are dunzo after that debate. Herman Cain was the dial winner for the night. Spin that media. :)

I agree. Good observation.

Stepping into the political arena has more hazards than a minefield.

Some of the brightest and the best just don’t have the stomach for the ugly that comes with it.

More Liberty5 said:
Yeah because increasing the size of the government, like that idiot Bush, increasing our debt, and deficit spending are not “wackjob” ideas. I mean….Obama and Bush are pretty much the same. Bush was a freaking disaster for the most part, and Obama has done nothing but double-down on neocon ideas. I guess less war, more individual liberty is considered wacko when you are a neocon.

I’d say there’s one MASSIVE difference.

Cass Sunstein.

I’m not a libertarian, but Ron Paul has it exactly right.

End this stupid “war on drugs”.

skoorbekim said:
Good debate…Cain won big… T-Paw was a close second…

Excellent! Looking forward to Cain / Palin 2012 “This Crazy Is Bone Deep!”

WHAT ARE ALL THESE LIBERTARIANS DOING AT THE REPUBLICAN DEBATE???????

GET YOUR OWN DEBATE IF YOU’RE ” SO DIFFERENT”

Thumbs down that comment? Really?

Dont like truth, huh?

Any rational person realizes that paul, who actually occasionally has some good ideas (like stopping the out-of-control, reckless, irresponsible, big-bank-profits-supporting federal reserve), is basically a flake who is best ignored

ron paul couldn’t win a NATIONAL ELECTION even if his were the ONLY name on the ballot.

The responsible conservative movement is committed to having candidates for president that can actually WIN A NATIONAL ELECTION, yet remain true to conservative principles and ideals, and not supporting a fringe ideologue like the lunatic-left d-crat socialists do.

More Liberty5 said:
OMG…how horrible. I can’t believe that the GOP would dare have a diversity of ideas.

He likes to quote and respond to his own comments because people don’t pay him enough attention.

Kitsune said:
He likes to quote and respond to his own comments because people don’t pay him enough attention.

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Barack Must Go said:
Too bad you’ve got ALL the answers, yet you havn’t a clue….

This doesn’t even make sense. Try harder dude, I know you can

Paul has it right. Again.

Mas Liberty5 said:
Good point

Was your past comments on this thread erased? Does Frances hate you or something?
Stalin would be proud of all this censorship.

Ron Paul’s comment once again demonstrates the simplistic and infantile nature of libertarianism/ It has never existed in the real world and never will. Like communism it’s philosophical soulmate it is a naively Utopian philosophy which fails to understand the workings of human motivation and psychology.

For those who would deny the similarity between the Utopian philosophies of communism and Marxism I recommend that they actually read the writings of both Karl Marx and Robert Nozick before they make themselves look foolish by denying the similarities. Both in Communism and Libertarianism government all but disappears. Remember that no country has ever called itself a communist government because the very phase is by definition a self-contradiction .

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illusive man said:
Was your past comments on this thread erased? Does Frances hate you or something?
Stalin would be proud of all this censorship.

Yes they were. In another post I called out Colby Hall for claiming that Cinco De Mayo was Mexico’s independence day which is incorrect. Cinco De Mayo is a Mexican celebration about there defeat over French forces. So what happened? Well Colby erased my comment where I pointed out his mistake, changed his article, and banned my previous moniker More Liberty5. When I emailed him about it he said I was banned for other reasons.

Resistance Is Futile said:
Ron Paul’s comment once again demonstrates the simplistic and infantile nature of libertarianism/ It has never existed in the real world and never will. Like communism it’s philosophical soulmate it is a naively Utopian philosophy which fails to understand the workings of human motivation and psychology.

For those who would deny the similarity between the Utopian philosophies of communism and Marxism I recommend that they actually read the writings of both Karl Marx and Robert Nozick before they make themselves look foolish by denying the similarities. Both in Communism and Libertarianism government all but disappears. Remember that no country has ever called itself a communist government because the very phase is by definition a self-contradiction .

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Limited government and sound money was practiced the first 100 years of our country. The federal government was restrained and people were free to succeed or fail. But the more power and power the federal government grabbed the less Liberty all individuals had/have.

Magister said:
@X-3: I seem to be missing the part where Frances says she disagrees with Rep. Paul and I also fail to see what statements from other forums has to do with the debate last night.

I dunno Magister, maybe I was having a bad day, but the headline seemed to have been sensationalist to me.

Kitsune said:
Cain probably sunk his chances a couple months ago by making anti-Islamic comments that are going to get repeated over and over and over once the mudslinging starts.

I sincerely hope not. Of course, most people can’t handle pragmatism.

writer said:
I’ve heard it is a great pain killer.

It is. It’s one of God’s wonderful creations. Think of it as a tool; any tool can be misused.

Here’s another article from Oxford on Ron Paul and heroin: http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2011/09/legalize-heroin/

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