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Rachel Maddow On Ron Paul: It’s Hard To Win The Nomination ‘Without Having Fox News On Your Side’

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Rachel Maddow has been following the roller coaster ups and downs of the Republican primary campaigns and seen a pattern of bubbles– from Donald Trump to Herman Cain to Newt Gingrich and, now, Rep. Ron Paul. And while Rep. Paul is under siege for his checkered past with newsletters while the establishment cries out for a new candidate, Maddow believes the problem isn’t just the establishment, but “Republican Party TV”– Fox News, and their opposition to the frontrunner.

RELATED: Rachel Maddow: Ron Paul Is Different Because He Has Lost The ‘Murdoch Primary’

Noting that writers in the Weekly Standard were calling for a new candidate to join the fray as Donald Trump continued to attempt a threat to run for president, Maddow made the point that these were signs of “how much this thing is back to where we were at the start- the conservative establishment is trying to woo new candidates to the race one week before Iowa.” The unfortunate thing for the establishment, however, is timing. It is very unlikely that there will be new candidates, which leaves the “Republican Party establishment being very dissatisfied with all the Republican candidates,” Maddow explained, while Fox News is left “falling ostentatiously in and out of love with each successive bubble candidacy.”

Maddow argued that part of the reason the Gingrich boom appeared so short-lived was the slight opposition on Fox News. For Rep. Paul, it was a magnified version of the same on the front. “They really seem to hate the current Iowa frontrunner,” Maddow argued, adding that “if he can’t win the Fox News channel, it is hard to believe that a Republican candidate can win anything approaching the nomination.” And that explains why many don’t take Rep. Paul’s campaign seriously– “no one believes it will translate into any real electoral consequence.”

RELATED: Rachel Maddow On Ron Paul: ‘Iowa Republicans Don’t Pick Presidents; They Pick Huckabees’

Who is left is a question Maddow noted left her looking a bit… wrong, in retrospect. The one candidate who doesn’t have what Maddow deemed a “Fox News problem” and a huge operation in Iowa is also one that, Maddow proved with a tape montage, she underestimated the most: Rick Santorum, who by process of elimination appears to have a real chance.

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  • Anonymous

    Now that Christmas is over the Libtards have turned their attack against Fox!!

  • Anonymous

    It’s even harder to get reelected without MSDNC burying all of the failures of the hope and change administration that has destroyed everything it touched. Solyndra. Lightsquared. Fast and Furious. O’bamascare waivers. Rezko. Gitmo. Failure to immediately respond to the BP oil spill, and fighting every effort to take immediate action…

    But ol’ Rick Maddow cannot see the “Democrat Party TV” CORPORATION that s/he works for! Think Rick will be voting republican? Nope. So who cares what Rick says?

  • Henry Wood

    “The one candidate who doesn’t have what Maddow deemed a “Fox News
    problem” and a huge operation in Iowa is also one that, Maddow proved
    with a tape montage, she underestimated the most: Rick Santorum, who by process of elimination appears to have a real chance.”

    A real chance at what?  Oh you meant…hahahahaha. That would be hilarious!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-Goff/100000028732477 Steve Goff

    Judge Andrew NapolitanoWill Newt Gingrich pledge to support the eventual Republican nominee?Steve Goff He doesn’t even pledge his support and allegiance to the United State’s Constitution! Why should his Party’s nominee be any different!? You are either FOR locking away American Citizens in prison, possibly indeterminately in length of time, and without a trial by their peers, bail, a phone call to let someone know you are alive and wont be home for dinner, and maybe tortured….or you ARE AGAINST IT! 
    This is not rocket science! 
    PICK YOUR SIDES! Yes or No?…..there is no GREY area here.
    If you are for it, then put ‘Traitor’ next to your name!

    Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, and the others are TRAITORS to the United States Constitution and it’s Citizens. THE ONLY person who is not for the recent NDAA is RON PAUL. All the rest want non-stop WARS around the world at the expense of YOU and maybe the life of YOUR CHILDREN one day. How anybody reading this can vote and support ANYBODY else besides RON PAUL…..is just mind blowing to me and frankly utter lunacy. What are you people thinking and how can there be any question!? Do you want to send your children to fight wars in other countries FOR other countries? Hell no you don’t! And if you don’t have children….you damn sure don’t want to foot the bill for the NON STOP WARS!

    CRAZY is what people call those who take their LIBRITIES and FREEDOMS in life seriously!

    I just cant for the life of me understand why anybody would even for a nano-second consider voting for someone, either past or present, that has the power, and changed the laws, so that they can kick in your door in the middle of the night and maybe take you or your child….and never be seen or heard from again. That is not fear mongering. THAT IS THE FACTS NOW! I spent 5 years in a prison cell. For crimes I did commit and deserved to be there. It was living hell everyday there….just knowing exactly when I was getting released. Now imagine being there not knowing if you will ever see daylight again. All because of something you or YOUR CHILD might have wrote online and ‘someone’ deemed them a be ‘terrorist’ now. You better wake up folks! This is worth dying for…..bottom line! It is this bad now. Just try to imagine what the children will face if we dont act NOW.3 hours ago · Like ·  5

  • Anonymous

    It’s impossible to have a purposeful life when you watch PMSNBC.

  • Anonymous

    This is where I think Rudy Giuliani failed.  He could have been in it to win it had he joined in November/December.  Could you imagine a T-Paw candidacy that lasted more than a month?  TPaw could be on the roller coaster peak right as Iowa comes a knocking.  Good times.

  • Anonymous

    Very true.

  • Anonymous

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/ron-paul-and-the-racist-newsletters-fact-checker-biography/2011/12/21/gIQAKNiwBP_blog.html

    Vote for a racist, bigoted, homophobic, anti-Semite! Oh yeah, and legalize NOW so when you are deemed a terrorist, you won’t really care!!!! “Take me away dude, I’m wasted, legally!”

  • http://www.facebook.com/andrew.sappington Andrew Sappington

    Is that supposed to be humor?

  • Henry Wood

    Kinda funny how calcat goes out and makes Maddow’s point by churning out a laundry list of Fox talking points.

  • Anonymous

    Says the one making menstrual cycle kneeslappers. 

  • Henry Wood

    Somehow I doubt that calcat actually cares about racism or homophobia.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t mean this to be overly snarky or sarcastic… but has Maddow (or any of the other MSNBC prime-time hosts) ever done a complete show where they didn’t mention FNC, or Conservative radio at some point?

    I don’t watch Maddow (outside of the gym), but it seems that many of her posts on this site, are in reference to an attack on FNC.

  • Anonymous

    Double Post

  • Anonymous

    Are those not news-worthy issues? Has Maddow addressed them? Do you think she should?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NKZW4U2XHIZT5DLWH7AEU57KTY Leroy

    All their comments are the same. It makes for very boring, intellectually dulling reading.

  • Anonymous

    The national barak channel criticizing any other network for their coverage is just too rich.  Rachel, dear Rachel…look in the mirror honey.  You work for the network that works directly for POTUS and you dare criticize someone else’s coverage?

    Oh so funny, in an MSNBC sick sort of way.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_45S32GWGDRUJIL6E2U4HOZW4BM Bob

    it wouldn’t be a conservative response without the standard, lazy gay-bashing included.

  • Anonymous

    What else would you expect from Richard Maddow?  No one watches his show.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Indeed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_45S32GWGDRUJIL6E2U4HOZW4BM Bob

    No – just lazy regurgitation of Limbaugh’s lame attempts at being clever.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    A bit of Conservative Victimization Syndrome, I see. Try fiber.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    You ought not have doubts about it.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    I trust you have had the opportunity to break some child’s treasured Christmas gift, by now?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_45S32GWGDRUJIL6E2U4HOZW4BM Bob

    Despite all the fear-mongering, Christmas arrived just fine.
    Sadly, you folks will get all skeered again when O’Reilly starts up the falsehoods and discredited anecdotes on cue next November.

  • Anonymous

    Uh hoh geez…Listen to Ricky Maddow.
    As if MSNBC isn’t the official network of Obama For America.
    The slightest jab at Obama on that network will get you fired and she got the balls to throw stones at Fox…..?
    Does she think we forgot how the White House tried to ban Fox News from the press room or how Obama’s twin, Van Jones tried to organize a boycott against Fox….?

    I have never one time ever heard an MSNBC pundit criticize Obama the way guests and anchors on Fox would lay into George Bush.
    Everyone knows Fox leans right but they never ever followed George Bush heart and soul the way the O-bots on MSNBC follow Obama.

    How many times has Rachel had her little meetings at the White House….?

  • http://www.facebook.com/lindavaughn1957 Linda Vaughn

    Every1 watch fox news is dumb ass people as well as they so call anchors, I will not waste my time to explain why there is so much of raicst and haterey come from that so call news station.

  • Anonymous

    The sad part is, this is the choice we have at the moment.  What is worse, hardcore fascism or water-cooler racism?  For me, the fascism is much worse.

  • Henry Wood

    Maybe if your name was JustChecking2012 you would find out that she has addressed most if not all of these topics. 

    She has spent lots and lots of time on BP and Gitmo, for example.  Those are the only newsworthy issues that calcat mentioned.

  • Henry Wood

    Again, if your name was JustChecking2012, you could answer your own stupid questions.

  • Anonymous

    Not a bad suggestion. I’ll have to consider changing my name.

    Anyway… why aren’t Solyndra and Fast and Furious “newsworthy,” in your opinion?

  • Anonymous

    Racism wouldn’t exist if racists, and homophobes like Paul didn’t advocate for it. He wrote that garbage, took credit for it, and now he is dodging it as he runs for the republican nomination. He is no republican, look at his “evolving” party affiliations. There is a party for nut jobs like him, it’s called libertarian, or green party, and that is where he should run.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2078217/Ron-Paul-racist-homophobic-newsletters-Video-taking-credit.html

    Funny henry, that you dodged bigotry and Anti-Semite. Maybe you support those views too?

  • Anonymous

    Vote for obama then. Fascism? Whatever.

  • us995

    you can’t explain it because your lying

  • Anonymous

    Obama is the best example of a fascist that has ever existed in the history of man. Can you imagine Benito Mussolini combining his office with Goldman Sachs? Or repealing habeas corpus and the Bill of Rights? Or occupying countries on the other side of the planet? Only Obama and Republicans are capable of this level of fascism. Only Obama could have gotten Democrats to go along with it.

  • us995

    what goverment electric and commie cast cable?

  • Anonymous

    Fox has to spin this against Paul while dumbing down their audience.  

  • us995

    i thought they were on Obama’s list of accomplishments

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Vinezza/100003007975241 Joe Vinezza

    As long as corporate owned democrats and corporate owned republicans continue to work together against Ron Paul I think he’s got a good chance to go all the way.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKEQSTA4WOBYU5Z7QNSBUR2LXI MASSMURDERMEDIA

    from the resist-we-much dept:

    i may watch fox news but at least i can put together a coherent sentence…  thank you for not taking the time to explain why there is “so much of raicist and hatery” coming from them…    

  • Anonymous

    You see what you did there?  You made her a him because she’s a lesbian!  You are an original comic genius, sir!  How do you come up with that level of inventive gold?

  • Charles Ulysses Feney

    Rachel Maddow has more balls than the five neocon chickenhawks vying for the Republican nomination.

  • us995

    the Obama regime cant make them drink there koolaid

  • Anonymous

    I like ya Korean but comparing Obama or any President of the United states to Hitler and Mussolini is just plain ignorant. It really is.

  • Anonymous

    In what way have the last two presidents been so different from Mussolini and Hitler? The belligerent corporatism? The imperialism? The torture? The mass slaughter of a particular ethnic group?

    What is your objection?

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    Anytime Corporate NEWS wishes to ignore him or mudsling on him.. makes him stronger. I honestly think FOX not liking him is probably one of his best assets as their Republican picks or should I say Ruperts picks fall one by one. When will corporate and paid for Washington realize people have had enough.

    Ron Paul 2012 and Beyond
     

  • Anonymous

    How would a name change answer my question?

  • Anonymous

    Do you really want me to answer that? I mean honestly Korean the comparisons are ridiculous. Both Hitler and Mussolini suspended elections in their countries becoming dictators. They persecuted and killed anyone who disagreed with them. Millions. They invaded countries and occupied them with no intention of ever leaving, performed ethnic cleansing and laid waste to Millions of square miles of land. They destroyed their own countries, Germany lost over 3 million men during ww2 not counting civilians. They killed over 20 million Russians. There was no decent in either country. You would be dead in Germany or Italy in 1941 just for typing what you just typed. 

  • Anonymous

    “…drink ‘there’ koolaid…”

    LOL! Dumbed Down x 1000!

  • us995

    he don’t know he’s a koolaid drinking zombie

  • Anonymous

    Learn to spell!

  • Anonymous

    Oh, Tina_Tampon!

    That’s it.

  • Anonymous

    Maddow knows better.

    1)  There has been a wing of the GOP that has been roughly libertarian/isolationist for several generations.  One could quibble if the last major representative was Senator Taft or Goldwater, but it has never disappeared.

    2)  The “grooming” of GOP candidates by Roger Ailes was written in several magazines months ago and is not really news.  It was not that interesting then and referring to it on television does not help.

    3)  Conservative media has a horrible track record of picking winners.  Ask Limbaugh about his 2008 attacks on McCain.

    4)  The stories about the death of Establishment GOP have been greatly exaggerated and Maddow is well aware of this fact.  She’s just twisting the knife.  

  • Anonymous

    Don’t worry you’re already drinking the FOX specially made Kool-Aid. 

  • us995

    but less viewers unfortunately

  • Henry Wood

    Well Solyndra is a great example of Fox hysteria and misinformation, so it is newsworthy in that regard.

    There are so many things that right wingers choose to ignore about Solyndra.  The loan program began under the Bush administration, and the same people were in charge of disbursing the money during both administrations.

    Right wingers also don’t seem to know the difference between loan guarantees and actual loans.

    Then there’s the fact that the WSJ ranked Solyndra as the top clean tech company in 2010.

    Lastly, and most importantly, the amount of money involved in Solyndra pales in comparison to the various military boondoggles and subsidies to fossil fuel companies. 
     

  • us995

    you must be drunk on msnbc specially made kool aid problebly posinous  i don’t watch fox news but the more you talk the more i think i should

  • us995

    that’s how Obama was elected

  • us995

    learn how to tell the truth!

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure you have it on 24/7.

  • Henry Wood

    Well you have exhibited homophobia on this very thread, referring to Maddow with a man’s name because she is a lesbian.  So obviously you don’t really care about that.  I happen to think that Ron Paul is a racist, which is something he has in common with most other republiklans and most white men his age. This should help him in the primaries.  I knew about this Ron Paul Report stuff a long time ago, when Stormfront endorsed him for president in ’08.

    Bigotry is a very general term, which is why I didn’t address it.  Obviously republiklans are bigoted toward a whole range of people.

    I also think that republiklans are antisemitic, but make up for it by being hyperzionist.

  • Anonymous

    If the objective of fascism were to kill as many people as possible, I’d agree. But if the objective of fascism is to merge the state and the corporation to the benefit of a few, I’d say Obama and the Republicans have been far more successful.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t watch her show but if she said this, are people really angry that she’s right on this ?   seriously…  

    fox controls the republican party

  • Anonymous

    please donate all your spare cash to ron paul..  i really want him to be the gop candidate..  it will be fun watching obama win all 50 states .

  • Anonymous

    Maddow may be going from  underestimating Rick Santorum to overestimating him.

  • OSTL

    party before country much, dummy?

  • us995

    Obama wants to win all 57 states

  • us995

    your a liberal elite you must know thats why the world is doing so great under the Obama regime

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think fiber will work. He’s an amoeba.

  • us995

    i think shes going from network tv to to sideshow tv current

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul will definitely win next week despite the FNC landmines. It’s all about taking one race at a time. You go Paul!

  • us995

    you started your leftwing lies early this year

  • us995

    liberal elite fat cats like warren buffet and jeffrey immelt eat poor children than don’t pay there taxes

  • us995

    when mitt meets  barry it will be a slauter

  • us995

    all antisemiites should join the wall street protesters

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    If you live in Iowa, please, Ron Paul.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    He must be doing something right, everyone hates him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    Good dont wate our time either.

  • Anonymous

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html

    Mitt has never led Obama. Obama hasn’t even started campaigning against him. You probably have seen both men on the campaign trail. Mittens will be dizzy after O runs circles around him. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    Henry:Solyndra wouldnt even be a story if someone were to get fired. You says its not that much money, but in the private sector half a billion dollars of ignorance and bad decisions will generally get someone fired.

    As far as subsidizing fossil fuels, at least they work.

    I sure hope the chinese loan us another trillion dollars this month… Enough to get us to summer you think?

  • Anonymous

    It’s hard to win without Fox news?
    Are you kidding me? Fox news had done everything to stop Dr.Paul!
    Still he rises to the top! No news organisation can defeat freedom and liberty!!!
    Try as you must. Still freedom rings true!

    Ron Paul?    YEP !
    When ?
    2012!

  • us995

    for three years America has been the victim of Obamas failures

  • Anonymous

    Heres photos of your racist.

    http://www.5k.com/

    Incompetence… A characteristic posessed by all Ron Paul bashers.

  • Anonymous

    You are right there,,,she is a freaky little boy.

  • Anonymous

    BP and gitmo the only newsworthy issues???? If the other were republican issues you and madcow would be screaming about them. You libs crack me up.

  • Anonymous

    It wouldnt be a lib response without the usual “they bash gays and are lazy” statement. Wait,,where was racism?

  • Anonymous

    charles ulysses finey called her out first,,he said she had balls

  • Anonymous

    Just insightful interpretation.

  • Anonymous

    That coming from an msnbc and probably obama defender.

  • Anonymous

    This is sooo funny. raicst and haterey?

  • Anonymous

    Obama has been campaigning against ALL republicans for the last 6 months.He has used taxpayer money to travel around the U.S. on “official business” for months on another hope and change tour.You made a point though that you didnt realize. He hasnt campaigned against anyone specific and they poll so well against him. Should make you libs scared.

  • Anonymous

    I just wonder if Mediaite will have an article about Rachael Maddow saying that she was “roughly to the left of Mao”. Seems pretty relevant for an anchor for a primetime hour of a “major” cable news network to admit she is simpatico with the beliefs of one of the most infamous human beings in history.. I mean for hells sake, if Glenn Beck made a comment during a broadcast that he was someone who was “roughly to the right of Warren Jeffs”, Tommy Christopher and Jon Bershad would engage in an epic slap fight to determine who gets to write the 12 article series on the scandal.

    In case, Francis, Tommy or Jon decide to ignore it, here is the clip. Enjoy. http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-rachel-maddow-show/45620578#45620578

  • Anonymous

    BTW, for those who don’t want to hear that annoying voice to 11 minutes, the Mao loving part comes around 10 minutes in…

  • Anonymous

    ” Well Solyndra is a great example of Fox hysteria and misinformation, so it is newsworthy in that
    regard. ”

    I think you are the one putting out misinformation. Fox is not alone in reporting on Solyndra.

    ” Solyndra became one of the administration’s most costly fumbles after the company declared bankruptcy, laid off 1,100 workers and was raided by F.B.I. agents seeking evidence of possible fraud.”
    http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/solyndra/index.html

    Grand jury investigating Solyndra
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70405.html
    Solyndra Loan: Now Treasury Dept. Is Launching Investigation

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/solyndra-loan-now-treasury-launching-investigation/story?id=14521917#.Tvrkt_IkJ8F

    Solyndra Said to Have Violated Terms of Its U.S. Loan
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204422404576596601891250510.html

    ” There are so many things that right wingers choose to ignore about Solyndra.  The loan program began under the Bush administration, and the same people were in charge of approving loan guarantees during both administrations. ”

    Yet you ignore the fact that the Bush administration made the unanimous decision to shelve Solyndra’s application two weeks before Obama took office.

    Was Steven Chu one of those ” same people ” ?

    ” Under the Bush administration, the Department of Energy rejected Solyndra for a loan in early 2009, worrying that the company didn’t have good long-term prospects. Yet only two months later, Obama’s newly appointed Energy Secretary Steven Chu announced the government would give the company a $535 million loan, funded with money from the stimulus. ”
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/exactly-happened-goverment-solyndra-loan-212111448.html

    And the thing that really pisses people off about this ….. is that Solyndra investors get their money back before the taxpayers.

    Who is the ignorant one here ?

  • Anonymous

    What is the matter with you?  Are you a nutcase?  That was nonsense you wrote.

  • shonangreg

    Ron Paul is the only one? The only one to faithfully follow the Constitution? How about Gary Johnson? Johnson is not intimately involved with the insane Birchers, and he has not let anyone publish ten years’ of newsletters in his name without even reading them, as far as I know.

    Either you support the man or the idea. If it is the man, then you can practice your secret handshake all you want, your revolution will never happen.

  • Anonymous

    Donald Trump is what the Republicans need. He promises to swear at China. Go for him.

  • Anonymous

    This ‘She-Man’ MadCow sure has a fixation on Fox News. Hypocritical of her, though, with all the BJ’s they give OBAMO. Her little-watched cable channel isn’t called ‘MSDNC’ for nothing.

  • Anonymous

    Come on, Rachel, Santorum is an easy target.

  • Anonymous

    I wouldn’t expect her to.  Those are hardly current issues – fox isn’t even covering them and, at the time, the coverage was so rabid, that in itself became the focus of the news cycle.  Fox is so combative and anti-Obama that, for a liberal comentator like Maddow, that becomes more interesting to cover.

  • Anonymous

    This is hilarious given the network. MSDNC has actively supported Obama for 4 years now. Hell, the network actually sells Obama merchandise on its site. The is no question MSDNC is the most partisan network on tv ( Current is trying to play catch up). I wonder if any of the Fox people are “getting tingles up their legs” over any of these candidates? Pot meet kettle, Rachel. 

  • Anonymous

    “Every1 watch fox news is dumb ass people as well as they so call anchors”

    You my friend, win the irony of the year award. 

  • Anonymous

    I like its progressive stance but it is untrue to say the network works directly for the POTUS.  On the other hand, if you said the current Republican nominees were working indirectly for the Murdoch Press, I might be inclined to agree.

  • Anonymous

    Is that supposed to be a withering insult?  Perhaps it is in the right wing world of lesbian freaking-out.  Pretty lame by any other standard.

  • Anonymous

    And yet Maddow, who you apparently do not like, merely pointed out what is obvious: that Fox News is trying to diminsh Paul. They have been hammering him for a couple weeks now. Maddow has nothing to do with it (though she and the rest of us are all are enjoying the republican carnage).

  • Anonymous

    Lol.  I’m totally outraged that a progressive TV station would deign to critisize Fox!  What is the world coming to?

  • Anonymous

    You poor sap.  You are crazy. Or 12.

  • Anonymous

    She has a fixation on Fox News? LOL. Isn’t that the only station repubs watch? Studies show that Fox viewers are the least informed of all viewers. And this attack on Ron Paul is nasty and calculated.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, but Fox  does not seem to support Romney, yet he will be the nominee because Republican voters do not need anyone telling them who they should vote for.  They’re quite capable of choosing their own nominee….and President.

  • Anonymous

    LOL!!!…how many times can that lie be quoted by jealous Democrat Liberals?  Do you think anyone but a Liberal takes that seriously?  Hee-hee-hee!

  • http://mrfunn.myopenid.com/ mrfunn

    It is easier to win an election if you have the MSM media on your side.

  • Anonymous

    I will not vote for Ron Paul, but your point about Fox’s influence is accurate.  Most of their commentators prefer more Conservative nominees and do not seem to favor Romney or Paul.  Yet voters will choose who they believe can beat Obama and not who the Fox commentators would choose.

  • Anonymous

    LOL!!  You wish!

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t GE get money from the stim package?  I would say that Tina is more right than wrong on that one.  But it’s clear there are several individuals here who don’t like Tina much….how strange that some anonymous poster could so easily rile you left wingers. 

  • Anonymous

    Boy, you sure are a wierd one…Tampon?  Is that supposed to be funny or something?

  • Anonymous

    According to the ratings, so does most of America.

  • Anonymous

    Tsk, tsk, Linda.  Can you name one anchor or commentator who said anything remotely racist?  Can you quote something, or tell us who you are speaking of?  We’d like to know.

  • Anonymous

    The ONLY way they get ANY ratings is to mention Fox News.  They certainly don’t have anything more important or truthful to say.

  • Anonymous

    No, Fox News is supporting Mitt. That’s the point, They have been going after Paul and Gingrich for a couple weeks now, trying to diminish them.

  • Anonymous

    So the attack on Ron Paul by Fox News is a lie?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    Another MESSENGER must be drawn and quartered for telling the truth about Ron Paul, right?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    welcome to CONyouServitude world.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    said like another  FOX drone

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    Jersey Shore also has more viewers, what’s your point?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    kind of a lazy comeback there, Libs are clueless

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    I’d vote for Santorum in the primary….

    just so I could enjoy the train wreck

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    Get real, Kim Jong il.

    You’ve really gone bonkers and outed yourself as someone incapable of reason or perspective.

    Tell us who you support for President or keep your hysterics to yourself, please.

  • Anonymous

    Funny, I don’t see them supporting Mitt.  They have to report the inevitable, but with the exception of Krauthammer, I don’t see or hear anyone at Fox promoting or favoring Romney.  In fact, they talk up everyone except Romney and Paul.

  • Anonymous

    It’s impossible to win if the MSM determines you aren’t ratings-worthy. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    Gary Johnson is the real deal.

    Paul is just a grifter and a phony who manipulates his gullible sycophants. 

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t say that.  I know Fox’s commentators do not favor Paul.  But then neither does most of America including most Republicans.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    It’s called a counterbalance. Fox is the communications arm of the Republican party.

    What’s wrong with MSNBC calling them out when the diverge from the truth, as they do so often?

  • http://mrfunn.myopenid.com/ mrfunn

    But “It depends upon what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    better than someone trying to undermine the U.S. by believing everything they hear on the Foreign-Owned Xtremist network, which is owned by an Arab shiek and an Australian who makes most of his money wire tapping private citizens in Europe.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    And how does rightwing hate radio and the Foreing-Owned Xtremist news get THEIR ratings?

    By spending all their time demonizing and misrepresenting liberals in general and Democrats in particular.

    And how do they do that? My ginning up faux outrage, playing on people’s fears and ignorance, by scapegoating, and by creating “stories” out of whole cloth and by using every fallacy in the book,

    You cant see the fox for the trees.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    At least it’s the president of the UNITED STATES.

    You carry water for an Australian tycoon who makes all his money illegally wiretapping private citizens and for an Arab Sheik. That’s your Foreign-Owned Xtremist news.

    And all their commentators are New York neocons.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    “his” show…heh, heh, heh

    lame

  • Anonymous

    her having balls is not her problem.

  • Anonymous

    another child like rant from a lib

  • Anonymous

    Says the “conservative” scum bag with an avatar of Osama Bin Laden (R-Islamabhad). What a douche.

  • Anonymous

    That used to be the case. Now they have all their guns supporting Romney. Wallace’s so called “tough questioning” for example, was nothing more than a calculated effort to give Romney the chance to step up and face his criticism, which he needs to do. Coulter, who hated Romney, now is on board to support what the repub regulars believe is their best chance to beat Obama. Paul and Gingrich are in the way on that. As for Perry, he is making every effort he can to marginalize himself without any help from Fox. Fox news will determine the republican candidate. Do you doubt that?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, Paul needs his own party. The republican party is like an old wine skin. You can not pour new wine into old wine skins.

  • Anonymous

    They don’t have one, Barry. Oh wait. Yes, they do. OBAMA=BAD. Ugh! Teh Lesbians! Solyndra! Rev. Wright!

    I boil it down to “conservative” = scum bags. Puts it all in perspective.

  • Anonymous

    Just as hard as it is To Win The Democratic Nomination Without Having MSNBC and MSM News channels On Your Side (right Barry O.?).

  • Anonymous

    Like you can’t hear Air America and NPR or other rabid liberal radio stations for the sound waves??

  • Anonymous

    What about BOFA?

  • Anonymous

    And like MSNBC/CNN doesn’t diverge from the truth?  All mainstream media is garbage.  

  • Anonymous

    As I said, I enjoy the station’s progressive angle and am interested, also, in the extent to which Fox now sets the talking points and agenda of the Republican Party as well as the next possible president of the US.  As for the strangeness of liberals being riled by comments from unknown Republicans  . . . and vice versa, I presume, . . . welcome to the internet, where such things are hardly strange.  

  • inez tyler

    Fox News is about as conservative as Barack Obama.

  • inez tyler

    I hope Ron Paul gets the nomination.  He’s the only one who can beat Obama.

  • Anonymous

    Yes.

  • http://twitter.com/grimcity Neal Boyd

    …according to the ratings that Bill O always touts, Fox News is the MSM.

  • 12voltman1

    Fox “dumbing down their audience”…. Is that possible?

  • 12voltman1

    Get a viable candidate!

  • 12voltman1

    What’s a slauter?

  • 12voltman1

    LOL!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Edwards/588445226 David Edwards

    Correct me if I am wrong but didnt Judge Napalitano show say Ron Paul is the best candidate 

  • Anonymous

    This is Rachel Maddow’s storyboard: 

    This is what I believe; you are an evil, meanspirited person if you disagree; and FoxNews sucks. 

  • Anonymous

    Go away, fascist moron.

  • Anonymous

    In answer to valkyrie101:  Actually Ann Coulter has supported Romney from the git-go.  I have never seen her give her support to anyone else during this campaign.

    As for your questioning Wallace’s reasonq for asking the tough questions of Romney, you’re painting that to suit yourself, not what actually took place.  Fox has given no quarter to Romney and, in fact, the only sharp words Romney had for anyone this cycle was to Brett Bair who also asked tough questions.

    No, Fox has not given much support to Romney, but I’m convinced that Romney will get the nomination without the wholehearted support of Fox.  Once he’s nominated, however, they will certainly prefer him over Obama as will most of the country.

  • Anonymous

    In reply to Valkyrie101:  Paul has always had his own party…it’s called Libertarian.  However, he knows that party is not strong enough to support him, not only in his candidacy but while governing on the wild chance that he won.  Without your party behind you, you get nothing done.

  • Anonymous

    Back to you, mardec,
    No, check it out, Ann was not a romney fan. She announced loudly that he would lose a national election, months ago. Ann liked Christy, but now she is on board with the Fox choice because she is a good soldier. As for Romney’s Fox questioning, it only looked bad because Romney dropped the ball.

  • Anonymous

    Back to mardec,
    Paul has no chance to win the republican nomination, either. And there is not as single GOP candidate who will beat Obama.

  • Anonymous

    you libs prove my points with every post,,hilarious

  • Anonymous

    As Maddow well knows….It’s also hard to host a show when her Ben-Wa balls are clashing together…..and playing “Stormy Weather” while lighting flies out of her ass.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds just like my description of msnbc and msm with libs replaced by conservative. Why does it upset libs so bad that there is one news station that has to balance out the numerous lib networks?

  • Anonymous

    Like my post above, but you answered me agian backwards. Why does it upset libs that there is one network to balance numerous lib/democrap networks?

  • Anonymous

    I really have to laugh at you Libs…you really think Obama will win re-election?   That’s really funny.  You’re totally delusional!

  • Anonymous

    Back to Valkyrie101:  Ann is, and has been, for Romney all along and now so is Christie.  Romney will win the nomination and can handle all the dirt and filth the Dems will throw at him.  He is a class act and make Obama look like the inexperienced fool he is.

    As for Romney being Fox’s first choice, you don’t know what you’re talking about.  But they will back him once he’s nominated.

    One other point…no one in the media is able to tell the public who they should vote for…not any more…  certainly not Republicans who are smart enough to do their own research and come to their own conclusions without being told, like the simpleton Democrats who listen to what the NYTimes or the Big 3 networks tell them and who they should like or vote for.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Rice/100002853695823 Bill Rice

    Songebob even has more viewers than Bill-O the clown.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Rice/100002853695823 Bill Rice

    Wasn’t Fast and furious part of Bush’s Gun Runner Program started in 2006?

  • Anonymous

    Rachel’s 100% correct. just ask Hillary Clinton how tough it is to get the nomination when you’ve got a whole network against you. Right Chris? Right Keith? Right Rachel?

  • Anonymous

    No, he hasn’t been campaigning against them. He has been doing his JOB. If you think he has been campaigning, better grab your popcorn when he actually does against your nominee. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/markgjudge Mark Judge

    Why does she define herself in terms of Fox?

  • Anonymous

    Maddow has never made anyone hard.

  • Anonymous

    msnbc wouldn’t know what to do with themselves without fox. I’m guessing more prison shows.

  • Anonymous

    And a snap on tool

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gary-Devon-Linger/100000023154701 Gary Devon Linger

     I used to be a liberal but the way things are now both you liberals and conservatives are like the leaders who represent you. Frigging morons.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_76F7SAA3N35X4IBY5BGVQML2YM James

    It’s  hard to have gay marriage without reality on your side but something tells me a lack of gay tiger couples flourishing  in Sumatra will not turn Mx. Potter’s head.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gary-Devon-Linger/100000023154701 Gary Devon Linger

    What was said whether it be by Paul or not has a level of truth that many can’t accept. It is not politically correct to face facts and state the truth. It is easier to call someone who points to their perceptions in race and sexual preferences a Nazi racist or homophobic. So much better than addressing the issue with any kind of intellect or honesty.

    The funny thing is people both left and right will never face an issue that questions their cozy little world of cut and dry, black and white. Not when it comes to something they hold vehemently to.

    Questioning race and homosexuality is no more racist or homophobic than any other issue being questioned speaks poorly of he or she doing the questioning. The reality is that there are issues in every group that are open for debate and mature discussion. Rather than dismiss everything maybe people should start taking an honest look at some things.

    Everybody is so damned headstrong and set on their ways it is no wonder this country is in the mess it is in.

     Whether you agree with Ron Paul in regards to his views of race and homosexuality you should at least see that many of his stances on war, liberties and the economic crisis in this country have some merit. You don’t have to agree with him on everything but if you agree with him on the right issues maybe some of the things that are so wrong in our democracy can be corrected.

      It is wise not to dismiss everything about someone because some of what they believe does not represent your opinions. Being open to all people and their ideas and not excluding them is what makes for real change. Unfortunately everyone is too stubborn and pig headed to expand their views.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_76F7SAA3N35X4IBY5BGVQML2YM James

    And anti-Fox drone.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_76F7SAA3N35X4IBY5BGVQML2YM James

    That Jersey Shore contains more reality and nuance than Maddow’s world view.

    Unless dildos now produce kids.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_76F7SAA3N35X4IBY5BGVQML2YM James

    By noticing her using a plastic device in lieu of the real thing. This is plain everyday ol’ detective work. Funny how people who support gay “marriage” find no problem with no “him.” Guess what, no “him”  no chillen, no chillen, no civilization. It’s a stupid fad and cultural conceit supported and enabled by, yes you guessed it, normal people.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_76F7SAA3N35X4IBY5BGVQML2YM James

    Okay, she’s a woman who likes to have sex with other woman: that really returns us to a reality base.

  • Anonymous

    MSNBC spends so much time bashing Fox News they apparently haven’t noticed CNN also hating on Ron Paul. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gary-Devon-Linger/100000023154701 Gary Devon Linger

    ROFLMAO….Thank you. The sad part is that when I saw what Dr. Paul supposedly wrote I was not as offended by it as many liberals pretend to be.

    I see nothing wrong with facing issues that deal with race or a persons sexual choice. Why can we not have opinions on these groups without being called negative things?

    We as a people should be able to openly debate and discuss these things rather than be blanketed with demeaning names by many.

    If demeaning names are used in regards to discussing a group or issue than that is no doubt a sure sign of people fitting the negative names people may call someone stating their views.

    The funny thing is that even a homophobic person or racist person can bring up issues that have merit. We as a people should not dismiss everything  a person says. Even if that person has views that we despise. There are things that sometimes are correct, even coming from bad people.

  • Anonymous

    You missed the point. Read the story again.

  • Anonymous

    Your bigotry is showing

  • Anonymous

    She’s defining the candidates “in terms of Fox”. Reading comprehension is a b****, eh?

  • Anonymous

    You sure intelligently argued against her points!!

    LOL

  • Anonymous

    Your bigotry sure argued against her points!

    LOL

  • Anonymous

    You think doing his job is going around telling his crowd how bad republicans are and how much bad luck he has had in trying to make the economy better? To me doing his job would be staying in washington and doing things to convince congress to do things that would help the country. He cant mention an idea and then say “oh well now i will let congress fugure it out”. He puts together his committees and then doesnt follow their advice. How can anyone take him seriously as a president when all he does is divide.

  • Anonymous

    The story says:

    “Maddow believes”….perhaps you should take your own medicine and read the story again.

  • Anonymous

    That is your perception. Obviously, it is skewed and biased. The President will always try to forward his agenda irrespective of which party he represents. He will always have people who oppose it and view his agenda push as ‘divisive.’ It has been the norm even if you go back to the day of Andrew Jackson. It’s not his job to appease people who would never support him anyway and find every little bit to pick on. Case and point, the WH christmas card and Trump’s idiotic kwanzaa tirade just in the past week. You seem to forget that only 53% of the electorate voted for him. The idea that a President of the USA in this partisan day and age could get a vast majority (say 3 out of 4) of the electorate to embrace him demonstrates naivete and ignorance on your part.

  • Anonymous

    Fox is a joke

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul ?  YEP!!!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t have anything against Maddow. I watch her occasionally. I think her constant snark against the GOP every day, every minute gets old.  As someone pointed out earlier, it was the same way when it was Obama vs Hillary in the primaries of 07. So much so, that both Olbermann and Matthews had to apologize for misogynistic remarks. So again, this to me is just hilariously ironic.

    At MSDNC, it’s always different when it comes from somewhere else. 

  • Anonymous

    And now YOU’VE missed the point as well.

  • Anonymous

    If hatery isn’t a word, then it should be. I’m going to start using it.

  • Anonymous

    (S)he???… has no points….Even his/her(???) tits are blunt

  • http://hotair.com/ StewartIII

    ChickaBOOMer| FOX News ‘Republican Party TV’: Rachel Maddow on ‘The Murdoch Primary’
    http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2011/12/fox-news-republican-party-tv-rachel.html

    THE LAST TIME I CHECKED THE TWO BIGGEST LIBERTARIANS IN THE NEWS MEDIA LOVE REP. RON PAUL, AND GUESS WHAT, THEY BOTH WORK FOR FOX NEWS. CNN SEEMS TO BE THE ONE OUT TO GET HIM, NOT FOX NEWS.

  • ganmerlad

    This is a fun game but also annoying, so:

    “Maddow believes the problem isn’t just the establishment, but “Republican Party TV”– Fox News, and their opposition to the frontrunner.”  

    This story isn’t about CNN, or Maddow’s varied beliefs. The Republican bastion Fox doesn’t like Paul…Maddow pointed it out and wondered if any Republican can win without Fox support.

    Hey, did you guys hear about the ad that says you should write-in vote for Palin?  (that should distract them for awhile).

  • Anonymous

    Let the person without sin throw the first stone. I guess that eliminates all politicians.

  • Anonymous

    Maddow has you frightened three ways: She is an intelligent lesbian, she is an articulate liberal, and SHE IS SMARTER THAN YOU!

  • shonangreg

    To paraphrase a student from Korea several years ago: They don’t have lesbians in the Republican Party. At least if they do, they don’t know about it. (translation: Republicans have lots of closets, and they regularly force each other into them.)

    I did hear their blacks are better, though ;-)

  • ganmerlad

    Woah, your MSNBC has stuff besides news and pundits?  Cool.

  • ganmerlad

    It is guaranteed her balls are bigger than yours.

  • ganmerlad

    Just ask Thaddeus McCotter.

  • Anonymous

    It’s hard to win if FOX News isn’t on your side, but you know what ? Ron Paul is going to win anyway, with or without FOX. Most people are sick of the establishment candidates. It’s the same old Democratic and Republican B.S. that caused all our problems. A yearly budget hasn’t been passed since Bush was president. The wars have been going on for 10 years. More and more restrictions on everything. Inflated prices on everything. It’s almost impossible to buy something that isn’t made in China. If Paul is not elected, the party is over for everyone.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps you should have a look at who owns Comcast and who the top management is – Then get back to me about the whole “Commie Cast” thing.   Hardcore GOP.  But since you worked the word Commie in there, of course you should keep the notion alive…

  • us995

    I think it’s a publictly held company controled by a moron

  • Anonymous

    How would the Democrat water carriers sound off if there were an honest and brave Democrat who had the courage and intellect to challenge 0bama in a primary?

    Never mind, forget the question, there is NOT A SINGLE Democrat brave enough, smart enough and better reader of words written by someone else from a teleprompter, than 0bama.

    The 0bama acolytes – you know, the clones in the media – grinning and celebrating the so-called “civil war” in the Republican Party, while forgetting the most vicious and misogynist campaign their idol waged against Hillary Clinton.

    As the old saying goes, anything that does not kill you makes you stronger. Gloating Democrats should be well advised to remember that Republican presidential candidates are getting stronger.

    Postulate and speculate and project all you want. Gloat if you must.

    If you shed some tears on November 2010, you’ll be crying a river on November 7th, 2012.  

  • Anonymous

    Whats going on here?
    How can Ron Paul keep gaining support?

    It’s called blow-back!
    Americans saw how he was not treated fair. Media bias.
    Always acting like he was not even there.
    Questions of why popped into voters heads.
    Now he gains to the point that will no longer work.
    So they attack him.The problem here is they don’t have
    much of anything to use against him.People saw how
    the media blatantly in your face tried to pick our President. 
    It’s called blow-back!The more they attack him.
    the more people will rally around him!!!!!!!!.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000273883636 John Campanella

    When Paul haters aren’t busy marinating in ignorance they are claiming how non-intervention is isolationism. Explaining how free trade and self defense is not isolationism, you say that sanctions and installing dictators is what isolates.

    “Texas Congressman and presidential candidate Ron Paul is not a racist and is being smeared as one because he is a clear threat to the political establishment” – Nelson Linder, Austin president of the NAACP.”

    http://www.therightperspective.org/2011/12/24/ron-paul-no-racist-naacp-austin-president/

    Covering their ears while chanting ‘la-la, isolationist, I can’t hear you’ you remember to expect the same amount of intellect when responding to charges of racism: ZERO.

    Ron Paul owes his economic philosophy (Austrian Economics) to Jewish scholars like Ludwig Von Mises and praises MLK for his libertarian principle of non-aggression. As a doctor, he treated patients of all colors for free:

    http://www.humblelibertarian.com/2011/12/video-in-1972-ron-paul-helped-mixed.html

    Either there is such a thing as a racist man with Jewish heroes OR corporate owned media is recycling smears in order to stop a man who’s very presence condemns the sellout politicians who own them.

    They know that as President, the troops would be home day ONE, along with non-violent drug offenders which, sadly, many of whom are minorities. They know that if Paul is President, the party is OVER.

    I suggest you do some honest research before you are fooled into empowering another fraud.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OJ766ICBQDKEJY34J252S7J5CE Pat Mulligan

    name calling really shows your intelligence, all of you……….go rachel……….brains rule!  

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