Isn’t it a lot ‘snobbier’ to say that some just aren’t fit for college (which is exactly what he is saying)? And by the way Obama said everyone should have the opportunity to go to college, not that everyone actually should.
Seems to me that Santorum is being a lot more elitist. A LOT.

Anymore proof needed that republicans hate education? 

Santorum is obviously wrong and obviously just pandering to the uneducated/mal-educated GOP base, but his general point isn’t ENTIRELY baseless.

A) We need to embrace trade schools/community colleges more. B) College doesn’t need to be for 4 years. 3 would probably be sufficient C) People need to pick more useful majors D) Professors (and teachers) should be paid more/less depending on the utility of their specialty. i.e. Math teachers should be paid more than English teachers. That kinda stuff.

Santorum will crash and burn here pretty soon. He has got say the silly things so he can get coverage……………put a fork in him ….he is done!

This guy should be shilling for a televangelist position, NOT the leader of the free world.

RIck Santorum – “What a dick.”

” he (Santorum) is equally committed to ensuring that every Pennsylvanian has access to higher education”

– Santorum’s 2006 Senate campaign website

I don’t know how much you people pay your plumber, your electrician, AC/Heat repairman, etc., but ours charge a lot and a person can make a good living without going to college- and that’s just a few of the “retail” manual labor jobs I can think of.  There are a lot of people who should not go to college- of course, it would help if high schools actually taught all the kids it graduates how to read, write and do basic math (which they don’t).

John Ratzenberger has been advocating trade schools and high school classes in “shop” for years. 

How many people who COULD have a job, if they were in a skilled trade, would like to have a job? Instead, we have eliminated core curricula in college and, frankly, we have allowed our institutions of  ”higher education” to offer cr@p majors that are totally useless in today’s economy.

 Talk about hypocrites… he just wrote Obama another ad.

I don’t disagree with A. B would entail devaluing college education itself. Regarding C I am not sure how you would force people to choose more ‘useful’ majors. And D already occurs to some degree (business professors average a significantly higher salary than most other fields for example), not to mention it raises the question as to why a math degree is somehow more valuable than an English degree (for example). To say that is debatable would be an understatement.

The Republicans this year have come up with the most moronic criticisms of an Administration I’ve ever heard. First it was attacking the First Lady for wanting kids to eat healthier and now the President for thinking everyone deserves a shot at college.  The future Republican Party: Fat Trade School students facing diabetes and heart disease with no health insurance.

Santorum,
you are a dumb as*, calling anyone a snob because they want their children to
go to college is elitist in its most rotten sense.

Every
parent dreams of their children getting a higher education, just as your
parents did, does that mean they are snobs?

Perhaps
not all of your siblings were capable of getting a college education, does that
negate from your parents dreams and aspirations for each of their offspring’s?

Foot in
mouth disease has latched itself and you are doomed! Santorum!

Mitt Romney the next POTUS!!!

I’m trying to see things from Rick Santorum’s  point of view but I cant see that far up my a$$!

If everyone goes to college, there will hardly be anyone remaining who is stupid enough to vote Republican. 

Dear World,  Rick Santorum is not a rill American.  Thank you.

 rinse repeat

Obama is a snob for sending Americans on a hunt for “wmd’s” in syria when he railed against it in the past. gtfoh

Every time Santorum speaks he becomes more unelectable.
Having someone this horrible have a Republican party pulpit only guarantees the marginalization of the Republicans for years to come. I mean, the more he’s embraced by the party, the more all other rational thinking humans will turn on Republicans. 
There is just no argument to be made for Santorum. 
He’s completely off the reservation and he’s destroying the Republican party. 

exhibit A ^^^^

 Didn’t you just say “republicans hate education?” lol

Why go to college and get indoctrinated by liberal professors when you can simply go to church and get brainwashed for free?  The church elders will even bore out rectal area of all male congregants at no additional cost (offer limited to congregants under the age of 13, sorry).  

“Snob” is a conservative code word for someone being able to come up with complex ideas that move our country forward. 

 7 licks from the same account…disturbing.

 bigot much?

A math degree is more valuable because science/engineering are more “useful” to the world than deep analysis of The Canterbury Tales.

 scathing olbyloon diversion/apology

Does this guy sound like  a Christian to anyone ? He sounds repressed, bitter, mean and petty. Aren’t you supposed to appeal to your better nature if you’re a Christian ?

Is this guy trying to destroy his chances on purpose? This is such bullshit. You can be damn sure all of his kids will be going to college. Even if they don’t want to.

 whoa, widdle baby has his wrist a smokin…lol

Right on cue to prove his point.

On second thought have any of Palins kids attended higher education schools yet?

By 2010, Chinese officials estimate, at least 20 percent of high school grads will be enrolled in some form of higher education; that number is expected to rise to 50 percent by 2050. China currently has about 20 million students pursuing higher education.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0729/p01s01-woap.html

 exhibit B ^^^

Did you know that the origin of word “bigot” meant religious hypocrisy?

Perhaps you could use some more schooling, or at least the opportunity to research and read outside the republican bubble,

Obama quotes

“We have an obligation and a responsibility to be
investing in our students and our schools. We must make sure that people
who have the grades, the desire and the will, but not the money, can
still get the best education possible.”

“Life doesn’t count for much unless you’re
willing to do your small part to leave our children – all of our
children – a better world. Even if it’s difficult. Even if the work
seems great. Even if we don’t get very far in our lifetime.”

Just a matter of time until one of these wingnuts comes after Obummber for breathing out CO2 and helping plants to grow.

Do we then change what we tell our children to, you can be anything you want as long as it involves math, science or engineering?

Seriously, WTF are you talking about?  Or are you just part of that Santorum crowd that refuses to actually get a college education?

Speaking of an education, perhaps there needs to be a law against those claiming to actually have one.  You know, kinda like the Stolen Valor Act?

 What is wrong with you?

 Diversion? you brought up WMD’s …

An educated nation is a smart nation. A divided nation is doomed to fail.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/divided-we-stand-20120223 

 Have to wait until Monday for talking points huh?

Making education available to virtually every child in Indonesia was one of Suharto’s greatest achievements as dictator of Indonesia. It was also his biggest mistake, leading to his downfall. Teaching the masses to think for themselves is dangerous to those in power.

Regarding “D”–Math degrees are about as useful as an English degree in the grand scheme of things.  In fact, when it comes to getting a basic office job (and most jobs), writing skills will always be way more important than math, so I actually think it’d be easier to find a job with an English degree than just a straight up math degree.

But most majors (be it biology, math, English, history, etc) are more or less equally useless on their own if you don’t specialize in some technical profession (i.e. Doctor, Pharmacist, Teacher, Accountant, etc).

Also:  The only reason why Math/science professors tend to get paid more is because there are fewer of them, so there is greater competition on the part of colleges to fill those positions.  It has nothing to do with the perceived “value” of any given field.  It’s mostly just supply and demand: there are more people in the USA who have PhDs in the humanities than in the hard sciences so obviously they will be paid slightly less.

 your partisan goggles are a little crooked…might wanna straighten em up a bit. also, your google seems to be broken.

 He’s republican.

Most Americans get confused at comments like this . Obama has not done or said anything that would make him a “snob”.  Instead of facing the real reasons the GOP hates Obama, they have to make things up to hate about him.   

 bigot=widdle baby d

 how “progressive.”

I agree with RIck, and I think he should send all 6 of his kids to an infantry division as soon as they turn 18.

Even plumbers and electricians go to college these days. It may be a vocational school but, college none-the-less. There are still some careers that can apprentice but, those are hard to find. One of the biggest problems we face is, if and when jobs start returning from overseas, we will not have anyone with the skill set to fill them. We absolutely need to make vocational training available to students with those aptitudes, if we don’t we are doing our kids a diservice and crippling our job market.

BUT, to say that every child deserves the chance to go to college is far from snobbish. That’s just kind of an absurd statement as far as I’m concerned.

Pederast much?

haha what?

Okay. 2 points.

1. Oh, Ricky, Jeez. Do you really want to add anti-intellectual to your roster, too? Last time I checked, in the State of the Union, Pres. Obama wanted something of a mandatory high school completion. Which sounds reasonable, cause honestly, most of the skills you need to do any unskilled job will be gotten from completing high school. Although I disagree with actually “making people” to stay in high school, it makes for a good effort. Very different from making people to go to college — which opens the doors to a wide range of professions.

2. Did you actually say:
 ”Oh, I understand why he wants you to go to college. He wants to remake
you in his image. I want to create jobs so people can remake their
children into their image, not his.”

Oh no. The die is cast. This language sounds familiar. Especially to my Christian friends. Messianic, anti-Christ language. I even sat through a sermon like this. It’s the kind of dog whistle language that is so despicable, so vile, because it brings in the tenets of a belief system.

Rick Santorum has literally self-destructed. I tried to keep an open mind with these elections and the campaigning. But it seems there are only closed ones running for office.

 Another uninformed obama voter?

Sorry, I thought I had pulled up Mediaite, not the Santorum campaign press release transcription service.

LOL :)

The boat is clearly sinking

Why are the Republican/Tea Party folks so against education. They try to make having or striving for a higher education is something dirty and not worth going for.Seems to me if a person running for the office of the President would only want to see his beloved country go forward and prosper.Not move backwards just to fail for all but a lucky few.
What happened to all that patriotic talk from the Bush/Cheney years?

 The double edged sword.

It’s a curious position being taken by the tea party/conservative movement– the idea that a college education is a waste of time and that intellectuals are elitists and should be shunned.  Santorum, Bachmann, Perry, Palin, Beck, and other reality-challenged politicians and pundits have embraced ignorance of the modern world, and they regard a distrust of the well-educated as an attribute to be used in their desire to be perceived as “just one of the common folk” … albeit very wealthy common folk.

Lord knows we don’t want our children to go to college and have their heads filled with all kinds of IDEAS. Before you know it, they’ll be thinking for themselves, challenging the status quo, and developing new points of view.

And we certainly don’t want our national leaders to be eloquent, scientifically literate, and generally well-informed about the world in which we live.  Much better to derive scientific theories based on the teachings of the Bible, and to form national public policy based on the rumors, gossip, and unverified anecdotal accounts described in supermarket rags and online blogs.

Not true. Not even close to true. 

English, any language, literature, they’re all about comprehension – thinking. Math is a language, more accurately a family of languages. If all children were to have to apply maths the way they have to apply English or whatever cultural language(s) they start out with – to signify need, desire, hunger, to respond in kind – then all of us would grow up far more proficient in communication, in abstraction, in logic, etc. But what happens, & is allowed to happen, is that kids give up on maths way too early, because they get frustrated or don’t like the implication that they’re stupid, whereupon they get indulged in that, the thinking being, well, their minds aren’t up to it, they no doubt can do something else. All of which is nonsense – some children start speaking quite late in their childhood yet go on to careers as writers. As we know, in many homes, particularly in Asian cultures, parents tend to be more patient & persistent, & so children of those homes get more encouraged about their capacities to learn how to use maths – but compared to the population as a whole, these children are so low a percentage of the total that they get treated as somehow gifted & special & thus get additional opporunities most children aren’t provided. The fact is that the bast human model is far more capable at early learning than we allow for.

Another uneducated republican?

I wish I could say these talk would sink him, but clearly people who like him think that education is bad.  

Ron Paul says the fed should not be involved in education, santorum says no one but the parents should educated their children.  Well a lot is wrong with that idea since most parents are working you can’t leave the kids at home to educate themselves.  So I am guessing santorum wants one parent to quit their jobs to educate their children even if they don’t have the vaguest idea how.  If I was betting man, I would say he want the women to stay at home and do the job.

 You’re saying obama isn’t chasing “wmd’s” is syria? Right?

Today’s GOP are anti-science and anti-education. **sigh**

Is it any wonder the likes of Sarah Palin is seen as a leader of these yokels?

 1 after the other…wow.

GAME-SET-”MATCH”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

More red meat for the uneducated hillbilly GOP base.

 Its not a curious viewpoint labman. Hitler had the same view points on intellectuals and liberals. He wanted his people to learn what he had to teach them and nothing more. He killed anyone who he viewed who could be a dissident or question what he was doing. If you were educated and involved in politics you were dead. If you were smart and didn’t work for him you were dead. And you were really dead if you were Jewish and educated. Thats why men like Einstein got the hell out.

I always thought republicans like Santorum were all for American exceptionalism?
Those who are better educated make more money, do not have to rely on government, pay taxes and have children less likely to suck on the government teet.
Then again, I guess Frothy wants more sheeple that believe anything that they are told. More or less the ignorant that cheered him on in that video.

It ended up on the same scrap heap with:Uniter not a divider,Compassionate conservative,Either with us or against us,WMD,and DEFECITS DON’T REALLY MATTER,along with a host of other cliches’ and utterances.

“The only reason why Math/science professors tend to get paid more is because there are fewer of them, so there is greater competition on the part of colleges to fill those positions.”  
You should read more science blogs. This is a completely wrong view of things.  

For starters, it’s NOT true that math/sic profs “tend to get paid more”. Someone else mentioned that business profs make more money on the mean than any other profs these days; that’s true, because the student demand is higher, students thinking that with business degrees they’ll make more money & stand a better job of getting rich. It’s true that businessmen make more money than anyone, but not on average – and also, the fact is that a much higher percentage of the really wealthy people in this country grew up wealthy & inherited wealth, than those who didn’t either. Those like Santorum, Gingrich & Paul are far more rarely millionaires than the Romneys of this world. [The really rare case is Obama - someone growing up biracial with no father, little father influence & a lower middle class working mom going on to be a millionaire is exceptionally rare. We've had a much higher percentage of presidents who grew up relatively poor simply because the necessary desire to pursue the presidency seriously combined with the ability to gain it is such a rare combination that the advantages of growing up wealthy & inheriting wealth can get dampened down as determinors. Look at the presidents back to FDR - Obama: relatively poor biracial, fatherless; Bush: very wealthy white; Clinton: relatively poor white, fatherless; Bush I: very wealthy white; Reagan: middle class white; Carter: middle class white; Ford: middle class white; Nixon: relatively poor white, effectively fatherless; Johnson: relatively poor white; Kennedy: very wealthy white; Ike: relatively poor white; Truman: relatively poor white; FDR: very wealthy white. The biggest determinor is skin color, but that's still 4 "very wealthies" among 12 - a far higher percentage than occurs in society - indeed, FDR, Kennedy, Bush I & Bush II enjoyed wealth way beyond the 1% level, more like 0.01%. Obviously growing up white is an advantage, but growing up wealthy is an absolute massive advantage.] 

Hypocrite, thy name is Republican.

I don’t know how many people, tv & radio talking heads being no exception, I’ve heard say that this is the absolute worst crop of candidates for a major party nomination in their lifetimes. Even in 1964, when things got really nuts as the Birchers managed to bring home Goldwater, the GOP crop still had Nelson Rockefeller, William Scranton, Henry Cabot Lodge, the good Romney, with Nixon, Reagan, Mark Hatfield, Everett Saltonstall & Everett Dirksen among those hanging around on the periphery – any one of whom, Goldwater included, would have been a better candidate than ANY in this current GOP contest. And it’s not as if the GOP base, who is responsible for how bad this bunch is, is happy with its motley crew.

 SOME people need to pick more useful majors.  Not every single student that goes to college can major in math.  If they did, we’d run out of people qualified for other jobs.  I’m going to major in film and animation.  Does it make me some sort of idiot for picking a “non-useful” major?  Because I want to work in Hollywood someday makes me some sort of moron, when I could be using my lack of understanding Pre-Cal to do something more beneficial?  There are those out there than simply weren’t born to be mathmaticians, doctors, engineers, or other professions that are somehow ranked more useful than others.

whoa, Jeffy the Racist is trolling again.

“Every time Santorum speaks he becomes more unelectable”  You must mean in the general; he’s doing fine running his mouth among the faithful. The guy who’s mouth is a loser for the primaries is Romney – & the more he uses this stage to pander for the general, the more he comes off looking no more electable in the general than Santorum.  

Seriously, do the GOP expect to ‘come together’ behind someone who’s both a serial liar AND so dislikeable that to hear him is to despise him? That’s what the party poobahs are saying – because they have to.

how “Jeffy”

and how many sockpuppets do you have Jeffy, or do we have to ask The Horses you fluff?

… just like the 5 strong healthy Romney boys did. Oh, wait …

santorum is a moron

 try the reply button

Yea them to. Im sure Mitt encouraged them to serve their country, and forgo   university. Everytime I think their stupid bullshit cant get any worse they surprise me with even more.

Well yes, of course I was speaking in generalities. Had I not been, I would’ve used a qualifier like “ALL” or “MOSTLY ALL”.

 *stinger*

Whats wrong with wanting every one to go to college it is better than Rick Goober Sanitorium wanting everyone to be a pagan catholic and kiss the old fart popes ring

They do tend to get paid more, though.  At least comparable to most positions in the humanities:

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2007/03/12/cupa 

I agree with the part that not everyone needs to go to a four year college… but the way he put is just stupid.First thing he does is slam ”liberal professors”..which is very ignorant.That’s too general, and it makes it sound like you’re better off staying in your small town,just because certain teachers are ”scary.” There are all kinds if liberals,good and bad people ,just like with any other group.I’m one of those people who didn’t go to a four year college, but his ”be afraid of the big scary college world”’  speech means nothing to me!  

Anyway, I think what Obama ment is that everyone should have the chance to go to college,if they choose to, right?I’m not a big fan of Obama, but I don’t believe he’s guilty of saying *in snob voice*  ” Umm..you need to get to college.Like eww you’ve never been?You fail!”  

Everyone goes to college.  <  Everyone has access to college.  Big difference.

I think part of the problem is that the first Republican primary/caucus states have become so completely controlled by Republicans that are SO Socially Conservative that any candidate who doesn’t live on the far far Right on those issues has no chance at all and is dead after the first three states. Maybe if the Republicans had one or two of the larger more diverse states at the very beginning a more Moderate Republican might be able to build up some momentum (and money) and go farther into the primaries (they don’t even have to win, just have a chance for a good showing). It seems to me that any moderate Republican voter who doesn’t have a primary early is not going to even feel the need to vote for any of the far Right candidates that are left when they come to their state. And as to most of the names you listed, I was around when they were in office, and even though I’ve been a Democrat my whole life I can honestly say I miss those guys! Even Goldwater. Of course almost everyone of those men would not be very welcome in today’s Republican party.

It’s not good when you start sounding like a Fox & Friends.
He’s toast.
I was really hoping he could keep it together for a while longer and get the nomination so Obama could mop the floor with him, but alas…..not gonna happen.
Oh well, at least he served a purpose by pulling Romney far too Right to ever win in the general.
Bless you, Rick.

OSTL or Jeffy is the shining defender of all things bagger, no matter how laughably stupid he makes himself look on this website. Dude Foxnation.com is ==> that way.  Youd be more at home over there amongst your fellow mouth breathers.

another stupid old pasty bagger? go kill yourself.

“No need for any of that there fancy pants book learnin’….I  done learnt me all i needed by 5th grade”

cbbruuno: “Isn’t it a lot ‘snobbier’ to say that some just aren’t fit for college”

I believe what Rick is trying to say is that, liberals are not fit for college or any public settings for that matter. And that’s something everyone agrees with.

I see he picked up the mantle of perpetuating the myth  of the association between ‘minorities’ & food stamps from Newt. Only with an educated audience can one get away with such a falsehood

Class Warfare against the Class Warfarer!
How poetic.

Santorum is laughabe.. he’s disliked and seen as an extremist lunatic and Obama is admired by many..     sounds like ole ricky boy is just jealous..  

You have to admit it’s funnier than hell that he thinks this kind of rhetoric will get him elected.. much alone the nomination..

pathetic

careful, your intellect is showing…

…. or lack there of 

I think we have bigger concerns than the fairytales we tell our children about how they can all be Presidents and astronauts.

“Grandma and grandpa’s new hips and diabetes medicines are sucking the opportunity out of this country” would be a good start.

when did obama insinuate he meant only 4 yr colleges?  the speech i saw, he DID mention trade schools actually..

the fact is there is a CRISIS shortage of engineers in this country.. they come from other countries and get trained in this field and take what they’ve learned back to their country.. even if they wanted to stay or policies on on immigrants are so strict they can’t get work visas..

too many of our kids go to school to be docs or lawyers.. not enough span out.

sorry but you’re wrong.. i hate bad spelling grammar and how this country has gone in the toilet in verbal skills but the fact is that math, science, computers, technology and engineering should be a very high priority these days..

sadly that’s exactly what he thinks he is doing :)

RS is turning into a big disappointment having resorted a number of times now to making statements that are factually incorrect. I thought he was a man of principle, informed by a dodgy theology, who could mount a credible challenge to President Obama.  It would seem he is a man informed by a dodgy theology.  Full stop.  I can’t believe he said, ‘I want to create jobs so parents can remake children into their image’.  I shudder for his children.  I’m starting to get the feeling he’s a ‘spare the rod, spoil the child’ kind of guy.  

Mittens next potus?

roflmao!

as your description indicates.. he sounds exactly like a xtian to me

egggggggg zact leee !

during the 2008 campaign a reporter (or someone) asked romney if any of his boys served in iraq or the military.. his response was that they are serving their country by helping to get him elected.

he actually said that!

Well when liberals come out in masses the smell alone is unbearable. You see, liberals are small nasty little noisy creatures. Who are most closely related to lemmings in the animal kingdom, and lemmings truly are natures retard.

Hitler killed more than jews.. for those who don’t know (not saying you don’t).. estimates are he killed between 11 and 17 million ppl.. 6 mil were jews..  he killed mentally ill, blacks, gays, catholics..   pretty much everyone you described above .

Of course he’s a pampered elitist of the radical left.
Why do you think HIS media protects all his writings from being exposed?

if you really thought that, then you’ve been clueless on him, as his history should have well versed you that he has skeletons in his closet that are as bad as what you’re seeing now..

As your avatar indicates, you clearly do not have a brain!

None…whatsoever.

The next the you know those darned elitist will wanna drag our children out of the coal mines and force them to learn to read and write.  I want my kids to die with black lungs just like my pappy and his pappy before him. 

at least they are not asking foro burning people alive or putting them in prison like they used too..
that darn science and readin’ really messes up the whole relgion thing..
funny how when people actually read–they really get it..
they go to college and meet muslims and black folks and aisians and gays and find out they are not to bad..
in college you  may find that the sun does not revolve around the earth and that evolution really is sound science..
you actully learn the horrors of religion and the murderous history of people of faith..
ya i guess for cons..learning can really be a damper on the mindless, ignorant hate thing~

funny thing is, he is the only republican with the courage to actually tell the truth about the conservative movement..
and you have to give the guy credit for that~
he just happens to be about 500 years behind the times..

You make some pretty good points.

Santorum is appealing to the extreme and ignorant wing of his party and they are succumbing to the siren call.

…Well, they can’t actually help themselves. Education married with insight and thinking are what moves progress and industry. Santorum simply made an appeal to the angry pitchfork carrying mob…

…and they wilfully obliged!

 It is too bad he is self-destructing just before he would have been able to knock Romney out of the race.

Still, imagine it lingering . . . . . . Santorum holds off on the really, really stupid stuff till after Romney loses Michigan, his “home” state. That would force Romney out, and the media would focus on Santorum. It would only be a few weeks before he self-immolated.

Then it would just be Gingrich and Paul.

 I have to give you credit, ostile. Your avatar does lead to the impulse to take you seriously, but then I read what you wrote and wonder why I bothered.

 Hadn’t thought of it this way, but “making in one’s image” is what the Bible says God did in creating us. You’re right. He’s calling Obama and agent of Satan.

The Santorum show is coming to an end. Time to our fiendishly frothy friend to bow out with his dignity.

Go away. Come back when you have something half intelligent to add to the conversation.

You are an idiot. Thank God none of your candidates will be elected.

You probably do not even know the complete definition of Republican. Moron.

The only thing Rick said that was not so smart was assuming all college professors are liberals. Otherwise he made a great point about Obuma. Yes I spelled it that way on purpose. 

A couple of points…

1.  Is Rick Santorum wanting a system like in China?  In China, you take a government sponsored standardized test in grade school.  The results of this test predetermine what job you will have.  From engineer, to janitor, to scientist, to laborer, your entire education and job placement is set before you turn ten. 

2.  The right realizes that skilled laborers are more than 3 times likely to form or join guilds and unions right?  Plumbers, electricians, transportation, etc all have pretty powerful unions.  The same unions the right seem to want to bust up because (they say) practice unfair work practices and drive up the cost of labor.  The ones that generally vote democratic and must be busted up due to the fact that Citizens United says they can donate unlimited funds to political campaigns.  They also champion things like employer provided health insurance.  They are also mostly independent contractors, so therefor they will likely end up paying taxes as opposed to getting refunds.  They are also less likely to adapt to a changing economy.  Say if someone went to a trade school to do work that has been replaced by a machine, they are SOL in finding a job with equal pay. 

3.  One of the reasons (they say) that illegal immigration is a problem is because of cheap labor.  Why hire a certified laborer that demands higher pay, when you can hire and equally skilled laborer at a much lower rate under the table?  Does he believe this will cause more people to come here illegally or less?

Unfortunately, a great many of his candidates UNDOUBTEDLY WILL be elected – so long as you include the House, the Senate, governors, state legislatures etc.  

You’re right – insofar as the presidency; so long, that is, as one of Nassim Taleb’s Black Swans doesn’t show up. But Big Money is bound to win anyway, given the inflated priority that most grant to the presidency – because Big Money can reasonably expect to have that much easier a time buying Congress critters & feeding them more than enough money to bury their un-bought opponents in lies & misinformation. And while it’s true that the presidency is, undeniably, the single most powerful elective governmental office in the country, indeed on the planet, the Congressional swarm is more powerful. Congress controls the budget, & Congress can impeach. Before the Gingrich-led House went after Clinton, impeachment was treated as the nuclear bomb of Washington DC power plays – but not anymore. There’s absolutely no doubt that if the Republicans keep control of the House (even just barely) AND gain control of the Senate (even just barely), Congressional Republicans WILL – not might – impeach the re-elected President Obama, despite having no “high crime or misdemeanor” to point to, & regardless whether the Senate in fact votes to “convict”. It’s simply part of Newt’s Legacy, the Contract With America – if a Dem gets into the White House & they can impeach & stand even a reasonable theoretical chance of convicting, that’s what they will do; it’s part of the Republican party’s commitment to its base.
Now, here’s the “add”-on value FMCDH wants – well, he doesn’t want it because it’s true, but it’s still added value: Big Money is deeply invested against science – that is, against knowledge born out by theory, proven out by experience & testing, & repeatable – which is what science means. Denial of global warming is simply the single most notable example of Big Money’s programs, but to that end it also must deny the value of education. Santorum is not just trying to attract the votes of religiotic & resentful whites, & not just the votes undereducated working-class types = but also the support of Big Money. It’s difficult to tell the point where Santorum’s religious biases end & his callous calculations begin (He himself very likely does not know that point.), but I suspect there’s general agreement that he’s genuinely puritanical on sex (I think so.) yet still self-aware enough to recognize that latest nonsense is a deliberately callous attack on the idea of liberalism – that is, on actually known things & how things get actually known.

And in this regard, the thing about FMCDH in particular & wingers in general is that they are authoritarians: if their leaders say ‘March’, they march – & that way they get to feel they’re “winning” (being, not at all coincidentally, one of the recurrent themes of Mediaite star retrograde, the Gloves consortium of fools). Thus, wingers actually self-recruit to the causes of Big Money, because that way they get the sense of ‘beating’ those they see as lording over them how much better educated & more privileged by society they are. That’s  part of the fallacy in thinking that it’s somehow useful to get wingers to understand that they’re promoting & voting against their own economic & other interests – they simply don’t CARE about that. What they care about is “winning”, in the sense of, first, being able to stomp on their enemies (Remember the middle-aged Republican guy in 2008 who stomped on the young Democratic woman’s head?), but ideally being able to get to do both that AND caw like crows at the electoral results. 

US is not the “leader of the free world”.

IF they get employed in the area they went to school in. 

If a maths major can’t get a job other than selling insurance or cars or flipping burgers or whatever outside the area of his college training, once he or she GETS that job, he or she is no longer counted among those earning “as” math heads. 

To put this another way: Lyndon Johnson was trained as a teacher & worked for several years teaching public speaking (oration) to middle & high school stuidents. But then he got elected to public office, never did return to teaching, eventually becoming a congressman, then a U.S. Senator, then Majority Leader, then veep, then president, DURING which journey he became a very wealthy man (attributed to his wife’s family, which no doubt is partly true). So, do you count his salary in public office under “teachers” or as something else. Same reasoning applies to Newt Gingrich, who couldn’t get tenure at the back-woods college he (sort of) taught at, but his inability to gain tenure as a teacher may well be why he’s now a multimillionaire; so, do you count Newt as a “teacher” for salary judgment purposes? 

To bring it back to science: if you go to University of Texas, main campus, there’s a large & very very well endowed physics department there, with lots of world-famous physicists, including in particular Nobel prize winning physicist Steve Weinberg. To build & maintain that department, U of T & it’s endowers have had to invest many many millions in staff salaries, with the average tenured prof in U of T physics these days being paid well over $300k a year in base salary alone. But the American university system cranks out many thousands of physics grads every year, & the percentage that actually find work in universities or in research or in any type of teaching or research environment is now notoriously discouraging. So where do the unsuccessful grads go? Into other jobs in other areas – if they can find work; but those that find work in say insurance don’t get counted in the studies, so the numbers the studies report are skewed. And that skewing is done with the complicity of universities, in order to create demand for high-tuition fee programs.

But Big Money has exactly the same time reference: it’s not just angling for the return of the 1890s, the era of the Robber Barons, predating income tax – which is why they worship at the Bathtub Church of Pastor Grover Norquist, it’s after full-out feudalism.

OBAMO’s dog-whistle with respect to college is this: “I know you’ll end up in debt, but I need you to go to college to continue your Leftist indoctrination and to keep ‘My Peeps’ there employed. Pay no attention to that ‘high-cost-of-education’ drumbeat; the only things that cost a lot are things I don’t like.”

I agree – but if the Big Money people who really own & control the franchise thru the RNC were actually really against that system, they’d put a stop to it. The fact that they DON’T stop it means something important: it means they get to start out every election cycle affirming their ‘commitment’ to the mostly white religious right & their Southern white working class loyal regulars. That’s what the Southern Strategy is all about: convincing the rubes that the base controls the process – when they really don’t. How genius is it for the RNC to run a system where the rubes work out all their efforts & energies into gaining a bunch of beauty contest votes & ‘caucus indicators’ worth in total a tiny percentage of the votes needed to get nominated, while the actual bulk of the votes that in fact gain the nomination are withheld to be allocated by the natinonal & state party apparatchiks? Just go take a look at how the RNC rewards late-primary states with actual delegate votes while giving early voting states a whole lot of exposure but little-to-no delegates. It’s an amazing con, & it only gets disrupted by those like Ron Paul working the margins of the rules & Birchers in the handful of states where they can gain the critical margin.

And conservatives are the illustration of the definition of ‘santorum.’ 

So what is the point of Santorum? 

 That stuff around your ass, Bill?

You need help. 

I did not know that you only meet Muslims and black folks and Asians and gays in college. Do you learn those horrors of religion from those muslims or do they learn it from you?

For someone who’s so pro-education, you’re kinda dumb.

If college is “indoctrinating people”, then why are there so many college educated conservatives?

Statistically, conservatives have college degrees in roughly equal numbers to liberals.  

This is just another example of a conservative engaging in cultural warfare by playing to fears and stereotypes.

If college is some huge indoctrination machine it isn’t working or perhaps it isn’t the liberal conspiracy Santorum says it is.

Too many of our kids go to school to be art majors and women’s studies majors and philosophy majors.

What is Santorum worried about?

If conservatism is really as “right” and good as he says it is, then it ought to be able to withstand the introduction of different ideas and concepts.

Neither do you!

Rick is right ! The world needs ditchdiggers too ! Colleges just produce more communists.This country would be better off with more high school dropouts, real Americans. When will liberals wake up and smell the coffee?

Santorum speaking to the dumb again!

You seem to be operating under the delusion that college is the only way one can be educated. In many cases “higher education” has become little more than Grades 13-16. Your view is terribly narrow minded, and quite obviously wrong. You can learn a hell of a lot more about a chosen profession by working in it than you can being lectured about it. That is especially true in the skilled trades. If you aspire to work as a plumber or an electrician, college is going to delay your entry into the marketplace and saddle you with debt for which you will get very little return.

Fellowship Pays Students $100,000 To Not Attend College

Peter Theil must be pandering to uneducated/maleducated knuckle-draggers, huh?

Hey, where did Thomas Edison go to college? What did Bill Gates get a degree in?

That’s one of the most ridiculous things I’ve even seen posted by a Mediaite troll. And believe me, there have been some doozies!

That’s rich coming from you Pablum.

If you baby libs knew about the education system in France, you’d think Santorum remarks were profound, but he’s not one of yours, so he must suck, right?  In France, you get directed to college or trade school at an early age.  The best liberal arts students go to the Ecole Normale and the best science students go to the Ecole Polytechnique.  The kind of students like the ones who post here are shuffled off to trade school to learn how to drive a truck or run a lathe.  I don’t like Santorum, but he has a point here.  College should be for serious students and not another secondary school for laggards.

 Every parent dreams of their child getting a college education? Well, maybe like everyone dreams of winning the lottery. But really, look around you.

http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=16

 A math degree is more valuable because science/engineering are more
“useful” to the world than deep analysis of The Canterbury Tales.

Not really.  It depends on the student.  But I think basic accounting should be mandatory.

Typical Republicans – SCARED OF EDUCATING THE PUBLIC

 Be careful of what you wish for.  You might get it.

 So why are so many Democrat voters so poor?

 Solyndra Algae, FTW! Inflate those tires, bitches!

 
Says the guy with a Stalin avatar.

 Wait until his next term.  We’ll start seeing some of this stuff now that it is too late for it to matter.

the press covers for the President and his gang of thieves. For one thing they attack anyone who is the least bit critical of Obama. For example, if  one mentions that the President’s misinterpretation of scripture reflects that he is merely using religion opportunistically — something the record surely supports — one can expect a rapid attack in response.  Bgates has these critics’ number I think:[quote] I get the sense sometimes that there are an awful lot of people who think
1) Christianity is a cult that for 2000 years has been oppressing women and homosexuals, abusing children, subverting science, and justifying imperialism, and
2) It’s an outrage for anyone to suggest our dear President isn’t a member.Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/road_to_road_island.html#ixzz1nUZ5mHAn

Republicans are making Obama’s job so much easier.   

Now they’re against college and contraception?  

I’m sure Obama is really scared to have to run against positions like that.  LOL.

Republicans, please please please nominate Santorum….I’d love to have a redo of Johnson vs. Goldwater.

 Yes. You spelled it like a 3rd grade smart-ass.

Rick Santorum and his wife won’t be sending their kids to college. I wonder if trade school is too snobbish for him.

 Poor Leftist Emma…things not going well for you, are they?

Clearly, Santorum didn’t need college. It didn’t help him at all. (Sarcasm unless you want to believe he is stupid.)
He has degrees in political science, law, and an MBA.
He says his grandfather was a coal miner, but his father was a clinical psychologist and his mother was a nurse. That means both of them were highly educated, and he benefited from that higher education not only in a a comfortably well off youth, but also in seeing the value of that higher education every day of his life.
That one generation of separation between the coal miner grandfather and the college graduate parents is a significant difference.
Did Santorum grow up in a coal miner’s house? NO!
Most of all, several reliable sources say that coal mining grandfather was a communist.
Santorum doesn’t mention that part.

you are the poster child for “Home Schoolin Jus DOSNT freakin work”

hows that Beck Universary thing working out for ya?????

And I will scroll down no further. Well-said!

How’s being a high school dropout working for you? Your EBT card still working?

Unless your real aim is to have an indoctrinated populace in debt to the government.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfGLB8LO1aM

Santorum is approximately 10 bajillion percent correct. Obama cannot even spell Rhode Island because college turned him into a liberal who’s only aim is to steal your money in the name of science. Plus school is just another name for indoctrination camp. They even say the President has not been to Mars which plenty of proof says he has. Why no letters to girlfriends when he was fifteen? He was training in Kenya by Islamic scientists to build solar power. I read on the Internet that Obama’s grandma was recorded saying “solyndra”. She was a pirate. My cousin went to college and got but by spiders in her dorm. How come no colleges are on farms? They won’t smell the bacon. Allah wrote the curriculum. Buddah is a counselor. They make Christ head janitor. I’m supposed to go there? Like wow! The world is changing. Rick can change us right. You can’t go foreword unless your shifted in reverse my neighbors momma used to say. She really loved that car. Drove it off a cliff in ’97

Santorum is approximately 10 bajillion percent correct. Obama cannot even spell Rhode Island because college turned him into a liberal who’s only aim is to steal your money in the name of science. Plus school is just another name for indoctrination camp. They even say the President has not been to Mars which plenty of proof says he has. Why no letters to girlfriends when he was fifteen? He was training in Kenya by Islamic scientists to build solar power. I read on the Internet that Obama’s grandma was recorded saying “solyndra”. She was a pirate. My cousin went to college and got but by spiders in her dorm. How come no colleges are on farms? They won’t smell the bacon. Allah wrote the curriculum. Buddah is a counselor. They make Christ head janitor. I’m supposed to go there? Like wow! The world is changing. Rick can change us right. You can’t go foreword unless your shifted in reverse my neighbors momma used to say. She really loved that car. Drove it off a cliff in ’97

wow Rick that was stupid. 

Very true this is the worst crop of candidates…but it’s the worst crop of candidates at a time of impending doom.  Conservatives have defined these last few years as the end of civilization as we know it. 

This is their moment of truth, the supposed last stand of America, and they’re talking about:  contraception, Sharia law (whatever that is), birth certificates, “snobbishness,” fabricated voter fraud epidemics, and whether the President is a secularist, an extremist Christian, or an extremist Muslim.

It’s not enough to point out how bad the field is, you really have to point out how high all conservatives have said the stakes are.  There are definitely smarter and more principled conservatives than these jokes . It’s just that those smarter, more principled conservatives have something that the base lacks:  self-respect.

They don’t want to prop up or pander to these myriad of lies and fantasies that the base has obediently embraced and promoted.  It’s just as embarrassing to self-respecting conservatives as it is to independents and liberals watching this implosion unfold. 

I mean there’s lies and then there’s embarrassingly bad lies.  And then there’s embarrassingly bad lies made up to weaken the country during a time of two wars (vast majority of which were concocted in early 2009), and economic turmoil…which conservatives worked tirelessly to cause.  Yes, they were enabled and at times aided, but who can deny conservatives were always taking the initiative to sell America out?  There’s a reason the presidential field is so thin:  the better conservatives are too embarrassed to run for this party of spineless shills.

Yeah! We’re against college. Let’s remain dumb and get low paying jobs. Wanting to better ourselves is such a horrid idea. As for those who are good with their “hands”…………it’s called the porn industry.

Can we agree that the guy in the audience wins the “Best Mustache” award?

Indoctrinate.  As an observer from outside the US, this would be hilarious if it wasn’t so terrifying knowing millions of people are listening to this guy.  

He doesn’t know any better.
It’s called ignorance.

Greg says he likes to “read, cook, build, garden, write”…write????? It’s very clear Greg did NOT go to college….

Yes, our college students are being indoctrinated like Hitler youth or AL-Qaeda.
Just keep pushing those buttons (of fear)

Just think of all the people, living and dead, who are/were total failures due to the lack of a college degree.
The living, Michael Dell, Bill Gates, Steven Spielberg, Mark Zuckerberg, Ted Turner, Steve Wozniak

The dead, Steve Jobs, Henry Ford, Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson,
John D. Rockefeller Sr., Ansel Adams, Winston Churchill, Grover
Cleveland, Millard Fillmore, R. Buckminster Fuller, John Glenn, Andrew
Johnson, Theodore Roosevelt

Having a college degree is not the panacea it is made out to be. Many times a trade school or just getting your butt off the couch and working are the answer.

Hello, can someone please tell Mr. Santorum that America elects Presidents and not popes? Just exactly what does he think he’s doing out there? He’s absolutely clueless!

Santorum sounds like Homer Simpson…….,.”Stupid smart college students”

 The issue is not the degree. The issue is “going to college.” Many, if not a majority, of the people you list went to college, and the ideas from which they derived their success were formed IN COLLEGE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua-4NUURZjg

Better than any other choice out there running.
BTW-who are you supporting?

We should go back to indoctrinating them about the joys of free sex and marijuana.  Worked well in my day. 

I find it funny that the argument is about college versus technical school, when the real issue is, getting educated to do a particular job, versus just getting an education that can’t feed you.

I”m all for knowledge for knowledge’s sake, IN THEORY.  I believe in a lifetime of learning and that you don’t stop until you’re dead.  I also believe that we all need to eat and that humanities major is a luxury if you don’t have any life skills that can get you a job in the real world, to pay your rent and put food on the table.  If you can do the latter, I don’t care if you get a degree in Russian studies or clay pot throwing.  But people need to be able to get a job, and everything else is an avocation.

I also find it funny that people bemoan that ‘we don’t make anything anymore’.  Well, if you fill the country with ONLY white collar ready folks, there won’t be anyone that could actually make something.  

The ability to fix a car is absolutely necessary…especially in this day and age, where it’s no longer about just a few screws to replace a part,  All new cars have computers and highly technical devices in them, and someone has to be able to fix them when they break.  If you want to engineer things, you need designers…but you also need the people to actually machine those parts.  They don’t come from thin air.  And if our people can’t do it, then we’re shipping the jobs for that overseas and the left will bitch about big companies outsourcing…completely unable to follow the chain of logic that if you don’t have people who can be plant workers, you won’t have any plants here.

As long as this isn’t class warfare (by ANY side) where you don’t say ‘if you’re poor, go to technical school’, then it really is a common sense approach.  

And in general, I think that we need to bring back wood shop and car repair, and home ec and all of that to our high schools.  Where ALL kids are exposed to some of it.  How many young people hit 18 and know how to cook a chicken or make a bookshelf, anymore?  Learning to cook that chicken could turn someone on to culinary school. But being able to feed oneself or one’s family is very valuable.  Making that bookshelf could turn someone on to making furniture and having a small business.  Or maybe a hobby as an adult, or the ability to create something with one’s hands that brings one personal joy on the weekend, when they go to their white collar job during the week. And some furniture makers are so talented, it’s more art than function.

There is more to life to learn about than merely intellectual theorizing.  It’s actually one-dimensional as a human to only indulge in one’s intellect.  Just as it’s important to think about the arts, it’s also important to think about more mundane life things.  You want well rounded people?  THAT is well rounded.

Btw, I’m laughing while writing this as there is a huge emphasis on education in my family.  But you’re only looking at a piece of the human picture if you act like Mr Potato Head, all head and feet and no other parts.  You can sit at the kitchen table having pithy discussions about the great philosopher’s…but can you fix your broken toilet?   Which issue is more pressing if the bathroom is out of commission?  LOL  If you can’t fix it, Mr Potato Head has to call a plumber.  However, he can save time and cash and do it himself.  And if for some reason, his white collar job suddenly disappeared and he couldn’t find another one, he also has a skill that would allow him to get a job fixing toilets.  Because if you know how to do a lot of different things, suddenly you have options, survival skills instead of standing there in line at the unemployment office.

As to Santorum, I don’t care about him in this discussion.  

…That’s a deep, bold and meaningful insight!

You’ve captured astutely the reason why schools, colleges and universities are obsolete.

Sadly, it’s likely that despite this radical thinking the said institutions status quo will not be altered.

There are great minds, inventors and politicians who are extremely successful, but the vast majority have the benefit of education. The education which Santorum apparently despises as elitist…

…well he does have to appeal to the far right pitch fork carrying mob sensibilities…

…Hope he wins the nomination!

More than once.

Me too! But if you are a young adult, these things are bound to happen even if you are not attending school. So why not have a time for school & a time for partying.
You won’t stay in school long if you can’t separate the two.
Moderation is always the key! 

Yep; he wants to keep people stupid because that’s the only way they’d vote for Santorum

They don’t want anyone to get a education because it makes them feel inferior.

No. Please don’t tell me you support Mr Frothy!

You must be a Santorum supporter.

Lubrication.

I keep forgetting. Which one is the candidate you crazy people think hates America again? The guy who stuck his neck out to help Detroit save millions of manufacturing jobs or the guy who thinks going to college is bad?

It would be funny if it wasn’t so ridiculous.

I have said it before. I will say it again. There are plenty of reasons not to re-elect Obama. But you geniuses never can seem to focus on any of the valid ones.

 He did NOT say only meet, Dummy.

 Yes, those comments are pretty ignorant.

Anybody who wanted to focus on valid reasons for not reelecting Obama wouldn’t be running as a Republican. They’d be trying to run to Obama’s left instead.

Santorum would be too right-wing to be a Pope anyway. The famously conservative Pope Benedict is way to Santorum’s left.

That’s a false assertion, there have been numerous studies proving it’s just not true.  If engineers were in such short supply the salaries they demand would be rising much more than they are now.  Though I agree there are too many lawyers. 

Greg was using satire.

 Still haven’t looked up the meaning of dog-whistle, huh?

You don’t need help GRABSPRIVATES, you are perfect just the way you are.

Ya, we wouldn’t have figured it out if you hadn’t specified your idiocy.

well since people like YOU obviously do not many people out side of your little bubble–otherwise YOU would not say what you say..
funny thing is when ever a conservative has a gay friend or child ie chenies, palin kids, bush girls,, mccain women???
they all seem to NOT be against gay rights..
conservatives are small minded because they are in small places with few experiences..
i know because i was one..
yes a small town white boy conservative..
then i went to college, lived in a house with Muslims, Asians, Indians, Christians, and Jews..
learned about science and history and even religion..
ya Santorum is right..
people get an education—they tend NOT to be such superstitious fools..
 

Really Rick, creating jobs in PA? I’ve lived here all my life and all I see is empty and decaying buildings, where factories used to be. The small towns that use to be a thriving community do to the Steel Mills are pretty much dried up except for the tattoo shops on every corner. Hershey foods laid off many employees when they built that factory in Mexico. The other bigger companies in this area like UPS and Fed Ex have stopped hiring full time employees and offer part time work with little to no health benefits. 30 years ago my sister worked for TRW until they decided to ship their jobs overseas. My sister was given the option to transfer to Singapore or resign with a severance package. Looking back that was the beginning of the end to the once thriving manufacturing jobs that kids out of high school, that as you put it, were not either able or fit to go to college.

I watched the tape and the majority of people clapping for you looked to be in their late 60′s early 70′s. Most of them probably did work in factories but what they don’t understand is those jobs are no longer there or not enough of them to go around.

What jobs Rick have been created in PA? Again, all I see are empty decaying buildings.  

Clearly this thread went to Chit in a hurry…

Once the spot light turned to Santorum, he reveled himself to be a religious zelot who also has no respect of the separation between church and state.  In his stance wanting to outlaw abortion, despite how the Supreme Court has ruled in Roe vs. Wade, further exhibits his extremism.  It’s no wonder he lost his second re-election bid by such a large margin.  His constituents had learned enough about him in his first two terms to know they didn’t want him representing them any longer.  Fortunately for the nation, they too have learned the same lesson, but only earlier due to the debates. And now despite his own college experience, he thinks Obama is a snob for promoting college education.  It’s clear he’s not only pandering for the far right Christian vote, but also to the undereducated who have never attended college.

While there are careers that require degrees there are also many more that don’t.

Like many I know who went to college the time was, based on my current career, wasted. My career, and career goals, have changed over the years to the point where I have a degree which I no longer use and I’m not alone.

I know one with a nursing degree who now owns a flower shop and another who went to MIT, majored in engineering, worked at Sandia Labs and now books passage on cruise liners.

The concept that a college degree is a be all and end all to a brighter future is nonsense. It piles on debt which makes banks and colleges fat and happy but does not much else.

Community colleges and trade schools, or just getting a job as an apprentice, offer a better opportunity, careers and a future to many.

Charlie,are you self promoting for ditch diggers, or just some sarcasm?? See it’s difficult to discern between the two since Repugnants have went this BATSHIT CRAZY!!! If it’s the latter,I applaud your wit, but should it be the former I’ll pass this bit of advice.Next time you happen to have a thought-”JUST LET IT GO”!!!!!!

Most definitely NOT the sharpest arrow in the quiver!!!!!!

Is that what Santorum is saying, or just your way of spinning the remarks to match your idiotic interpretation? I agree with Santorum, college is not for everyone and for those that do choose college, it should be at their own expense.  

You’re the kind of moron Rick is pandering to.  Your opinions are just plain . . . stupid. 

It doesn’t take much to claim a victory for you, does it?  Your standards are as high as your IQ. 

I definitely do not like Ricky…but I definitely agree with him on this point.  I’ve worked with too many “educated fools.” 

College teaches you what to think, not how to think…

 Gee, I dunno’. . . *Are* there stupid people who could really be *that* stoooooopid???

 ummmmmm. im telling your mommy

Why is it that conservatives often accuse liberals of calling names, using hate speech, and not using facts to prove their points….but in fact, these same cons call liberals names and disparage them to no end? 

You, sir, or madam, are the epitome of a mean, nasty conservative who doesn’t know your ass from a hole in the ground.  

Get a life.  Grow up.  Learn something for once. 

Santorum is being created somewhere by someone, as we speak, and being wiped off by someone, somewhere else . . .

RIGHT ON CUE SKIPPY!!!  MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/flashback-in-2006-rick-santorum-wanted-to-send-all-paians-to-college.php

2006:Rick Santorum has supported legislative solutions that provides loans, grants, and tax incentives to make higher education more accessible and affordable.

Rick Santorum supports increased funding for Pell Grants, and since 2001 funding for Pell Grant programs has increased by 47 percent. Pennsylvania students have benefitted tremendously from Pell Grants; providing a college education for our state’s youth who otherwise might not be able to afford one.

Rick Santorum 2012:

Obama “A Snob” For Wanting Everyone To Go To College

Translation:

Obama is an uppity ni**er trying to make colleges affordable so other uppity ni**ers and brown people can go to college and therefore encouraging them to think they TOO might become President of the United States! That SNOB!

Not so certain about that Tuc, looks like the Sanitarium has tapped into the “BATSHIT CRAZY ARTERY” of this out -of-control Party of juvenile delinquents. I’m HOPING this ignorance continues PLEASE!!! PLEASE!!!! PLEASE!!! to his nomination as the Leader of the Dolts!!!!

Yes because so many parents dont want their kids to have the opportunity to go to college – you represent us Rick.  I would hate to have my kids get a college degree – they will just come out as educated persons.  We dont want that do we Rick?

 Agreed kids should have the option of going to free publicly funded university if talented enough or free publicly funded professional trade school for virtually all mainstream trades and professions.

Now how long would you, Rick or any other ‘conservative/true American/Look-here-Im-Not-A-Communist’ pundits last before you were tarred and feathered by the ‘no tax increase pledge’ and tea party crowds?

 Inquisitions: Episcopalian, Marian Persecutions,Scottish, Dutch, French
Spanish~Mexican~Peruvian, Portuguese and Roman.
Crusades to numerous to mention..Nine were numbered and then you also had the European Crusades…They and the others totaled over 15. One time after a siege that Richard The Lionhearted was part of…Instead of taking prisoners that they would have to feed, and since they had very little food. King Richard had his men kill everyone in the city for their intransigence.

Do you want me to go on with these…

 Missed the point, you did.

Going to college doesn’t mean you have to get a PHD, or even a masters or bachelors.

But all the tradespeople I work with – electricians, millwrights, pipefitters, carpenters -  ALL went to college. The days are long gone when you can expect to have a career at anything without having more than a 6th grade education. Even all the farmers I know went to college (and most of the farmers DID get at least a bachelor degree).

If you don’t take a degree track, you can still take applied classes like algebra, physics, drafting, et cetera, that will improve your understanding of how almost everything really works, no matter what job you end up doing.

Frothy Santorum is the one that sounds elitist, since he HAS a degree but now is alleging kids should NOT to go to college.

 I think the debate should then be the value each person gives to a broad education (college, university) versus narrow training (trade school, apprenticeship) and how one can contribute to the other.

We figured you spelt it that way on porpoise, like your favorite magazine.

I think the point Santorum is trying to make is that there is a stigma on those who don’t go to college such that everyone tries to go to avoid being labeled a ne’er do well.  Here in Texas we have state universities greatly subsidized by oil and gas production on state land. It makes public education relatively cheap in comparison to most other states. Those in the top ten percent of their graduating class gain automatic admission to the state school of their choice.  Almost all decide to attend UT-Austin. Don’t know about any TP guys complaining about it, but a lot of rich whites are.

 Other than for the circle jerk, it really doesn’t matter who runs.  Let’s see3 how we feel about it five years from now. 

When I witness the illiterate bastards in Pro Sports and the ignorant slobs in Hollywood….the “you know….you know” ones…the Ebonics Majors…… who are limited to using vile language to “express themselves”….and the vulgar, violent, drug-infested Hip Hop ignoramuses who teach and urge young kids to be  gangsters….I conclude that colleges have turned into crap and are no more than liberal  indoctrination centers and a waste of money.

 I may not vote.  I wont vote for Gingrich.  He is evil.  Paul is OK, but kind of a gadfly isolationist.  I’m still mad at Obama for all the race card shit he pulled on Hillary, and I think he does not care a bit about the deficit.  I don’t think Romney would be that different from Obama, just more budget conscious.  (Obama has never proposed or passed a budget.) I hope Romney, if he wins, tries to fix HC such that we have a public option.

I don’t believe President Obama ever said “Every child should go to college.”  I agree with him that every child in this country who wants to go to college should have that opportunity without breaking the bank of his parents.  In a land as wealthy as ours, higher education should be free for all!

Why, in the name of all that’s holy, would going to college be a bad thing?  Where would Rick Santorum be without his college degree?  Who paid for it?  Why wouldn’t he want his numerous children to benefit from public education?

 I think Santorum is unqualified.  I said it at the time about Obama, and if I didn’t say it about Santorum, I’d be a no-good, honkey, racist MF.

And Rick, I’m sorry you feel that way.  In today’s marketplace we need as many kids to college as is possible.  That is the reality of the world we live in.  Kids with degrees – that take viable courses – will get the better jobs – with higher pay.

Yes, I agree that not everyone is college material.  But they should go on to technical school and prepare for a position that is of need in the market.

But education is the most important thing we can give our young people.  It is the gift that keeps on giving all through our lives. 

And one more thing – education begets education.  I think that is how we break the circle of welfare and ignorance in this country – through education.  IMO

 rick-santorum-obama-is-a-snob-for-wanting-everyone-to-go-to-college

Says the snob

Santorum attended Pennsylvania State University for his undergraduate studies graduating with a Bachelor of Arts with honors in political science in 1980

He then completed a one-year Master of Business Administration program at the University of Pittsburgh’s Joseph M. Katz Graduate School of Business, graduating in 1981.

Santorum received a JD with honors from the Dickinson School of Law in 1986.

A dark hallway, a flight of stairs…

 Why?  Isn’t it a right of humanity to be educated?

Star_Dancer said:
“College teaches you what to think, not how to think…  ”

So *that* is why Frothy Santorum, holder of a JD, MBA, and Bachelor’s in Political Science, thinks the way he does. It’s the 8 or 9 years he spent in college.  No wonder!

 I find it strange that our Congressmen/women want to say the Pledge Of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. Yet, the TP/GOP evidently take their “Pledge Of Allegiance” to Grover Norquist as being above the pledge to the United States of America. I’m tired of the TP/GOP who are “Party First” and “Americans Last”.

I can’t believe I’m the only one to click Like on this one so far.

With any luck, we can get the 20th amendment repealed by 2016 so he can run for a 3rd term, too… if the city council can do it for Bloomberg in NYC, I don’t see why the federal and state legislatures can’t do it for President Obama.

It’s really time for you to go out to play and let the adults have a conversation.

No, it’s that stuff around your mouth, Pablum.

I sympathize with you.It is always the lesser of evils as far as politicians are concerned

No, it’s a lack of intellect to make such a biassed remark.  It’s like Allen West telling all liberals to get the he– ouf of h is America.

I really like it when folks like you come out in support of conservatism.  You just made a whole bunch of folks choose to be liberal rather than like ewe.

I guess you’re jealous cbbrunno. The man won’t get far and he sure won’t win the election if he gets the opportunity to debate Obama. You far righties are all the same; ding dong, ding dong!

ll give him a like seems like a reasonable comment to me:)

Lol wow there are some funny conservatives out there:) And your not even insane either. Ben Kenobe- He is our only hope. Yoda- No there is another:)

I think there is a way he could make this point without sounding hypocritical, given his academic accomplishments, or demagogic.  He just isn’t interested in doing that.  I just need to say, though, I am glad we have Rick out there saying whacky stuff because the comments on articles about him are WAY more fun than stuff on boring other topics

I know thats some dumb stuff right there. They serve by looking like j crew models.

In your gut, you know Santorum is nuts.

It’s ‘whose’ not “who’s” Greg. While listening to Zappa, I still learned not to apostrophe personal pronoun possessives in high school english.  Did you not even finish high school?

All the apprenticeships I’m aware of require enough credit-hours of courses at the local community college for an associates degree (in addition to the 8000 hours of work experience in 4 years).

That’s *still* college, which is exactly what Frothy Santorum claims nobody should want their kids to attend.

 The misspelling is only part of the hilarity of Greg’s post. It is perfect sarcasm that you should appreciate for its brilliance.

 Dignity? He still has some?

I thought the president said all students who WANT to attend college should be able to do so, whether that be a four year, two year or technical college. That seems to be a reasonable position to take. And how does Sanatorium explain that he isn’t a liberal since he graduated from a college- Penn State wasn’t it? Maybe the one who doth protest too much earned his degree in some other manner? And by the way- has anyone experienced Spell Checker always wants to change Santorum to Sanatorium? As if it seems to think Santorum belongs in Sanatorium. I couldn’t agree more.

Evidently. Santorum has won a couple of states. I have to wonder about those who voted for him. Of course, a lot of them went to “college” with people like Michelle Bachmann and got their degrees in the same kind of place where knowing the bible is more important than knowing law when you’re a lawyer or even anything about American history, let alone about any other history. I don’t think I would hire a person who went to Bachmann’s college. Of course some people manage to be like that and they did go to real colleges- like 5 or 6 of them before they managed to get a degree. Makes you wonder if some colleges do like some teachers used to do with students that repeated their grade for the 3rd or 4th time and the teacher passed them on. Maybe some colleges graduate some students just to get rid of them, even at the risk of being embarrassed later on?   .

 Nope, frothy, fecal, lubricant, semen, but no nuts.

I think the spellcheck must have seen that episode of the “Sopranos”

Frothy Santorum is the one that sounds elitist, since he HAS a degree but now is alleging kids should NOT go to college

Yet another disingenuous liberal comment.
Santorum did not allege that kids shouldn’t go to college….he said that it wasn’t NECESSARY for all kids to go to college.

I am not surprised an “educated” liberal slob like you would post such nonsense.
All liberals do that.

Santorum is a pathetic republican loser who is living proof that unplanned pregnancies do happen as a result of anal intercourse.

You know, the problem with dehumanizing anyone is that makes it possible to then blow them up at the abortion clinic or other venue. In Uganda, during the genocide there, the name was cockroach.

You’re a deeply disturbed young man. And if you’re a woman, you’re an anomaly.

Obama’s a realist. And what family image is of finishing high school and learning a trade, in the 21st century?

I think one of the job of the president is to set aspirational goals (doing things not because they are easy, but because they are hard; going to the moon in decade). Obama seeks to set those goals for his country, a weighty endeavor if there ever was one.

People in China are not trying to end up working for Foxx Conn. We know what lacking higher education means. The pursuit of education, including at community colleges, which Obama has been deliberate in naming as higher education, which, by the way, you need to become a nurse, x-ray tech and most technical skills, is where the country has to go. Obama is saying “Let’s go there.”

Do we want a president who says “Look inside and find your limitations”? That really would be un-American.

So,I guess anyone–including those in the low and middle-class–who wants an education for their children is a snob? Talk about not caring about the poor and middle-class….

what he says makes sense.  college is not for everyone and many people are gifted in areas that has nothing to do with college.  they will still try to sell you that dream that everyone should go to college cause thats where the big bucks are. its all about the money. this is a way to get working class people to go further into debt, with the illusion that they are doing the right thing.  probably about 50%of the people that are in college shouldnt be there and how much cheaper would a collage education be if those that should not be there were not.

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Rick really means that ignorance is good so his corrupt fascist church will have an easier time indoctrinating people like his stupid ancestors. Even Pope John Paul wanted to make a Croatian Ustashi Nazi mass murderer a saint

Right wing definition of elitist: anyone not only not stupid, backwards, ignorant, jingoistic, bigoted, knee jerk but not proud of it like the moron using the term. When anyone starts babbling about elitists, I always assume they are stupid trash.

His crappy church has an easier time brainwashing ignoramuses

and what is your point?

Your ignorance is pretty impressive, Just listen to talk radio and watch FOX and anyone can barf up nonsense like you

“All liberals do that.’ NOOOO

That line alone makes you lose the debate,. Then again, your idea of a debate is to barf up one right wing meme & cliche after another.

Don’t the taxpayers of this country already provide a free basic education! If you want an advanced education, you pay for it, that’s your right!

 funny, i went to college, i read, i’m educated, i’m conservative…but i must be mindless and ignorant and hateful?  I hardly think i am, in fact i am nothing like that.  So you’re comments must be…worthless.

well the fact that you did not respond to what i said–and that YOU claim that YOUR experience is not only the paradigm for the conservative movement but the very defnintion of it..
shows that you are full of poop #1 and a true conservarive #2…
but very shallow on facts..
YOU are the true definition of a conservative after all..

Touché.  I only know him from the Primaries and the Dan Savage thing.  I am struck by the  ’I am a man of integrity who will stand up for what I believe’ pose, versus ‘the I will repeat any old thing on the internet that plays to the base’ look.  Plus asking people whose values he appears to despise (Democrats) to help him out.  The final effect is he comes across as stupid and kind of revolting.  Which explains the Dan Savage thing.

How could any parent in their right mind name their child ‘Santorum’?

Assuming the Potus actually made the statement attributed
to him by Mr. Santorum, he is not necessarily so much a snob as a fellow
completely out of touch with reality (or who chooses to ignore it when that
suits his purpose). Morever, it’s not the type of impossible dream [  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjI7VeIA7ZI   Frank Sinatra - The Impossible dream (with
lyrics) - YouTube ]  that should be
entertained by all dreamers.   The Potus may not
know, for example, that (“his”) NCES archives http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d10/tables/dt10
provide data on high school completion rates
(percent current-year 12th graders earning a diploma) and corresponding year
college enrolment rates (percent of this year’s high school completers enrolling
in college) by year 1960 through 2009.  

Median values for 1960-64 and 2005-09 for those rates were
43% and 43% (HS completion) and 45% and
47% (college enrolment), respectively. 

Some delay college entry and  related data on the educational attainment of individuals
25 and older  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_the_United_States#Elementary_and_secondary_education
indicate that some 56 percent of folks 25 or older had at
least attended a two- or four-year college.  
 IIt is reasonable to infer from the foregoing that a very substantial number of adult Americans have not gone to college; also that going to college is an unlikely prospect for almost half of any given cohort of entering first grade students. That Potus “wants everybody(sic) in America
to go to college” can not be expected to make any difference at all; rather
tends to suggest, as indicated above, either ignorance of relevant facts or a
desire to be perceived as a champion of all the people even though he
knows that “going to college” is literally an impossible dream for many who,
should they entertain it, will tend to be disappointed.
  Wanting everybody in America
to make the best use of her/his talents , and an educational system designed to cultivate that goal, is the type of wish that, had the President
expressed it, might well have been inspirational across the board,  and conducive to emphasis on providing a range of educational options for students.

At least, give Mr.
Santorum credit for speaking up for the lower 44% as well as the upper
56%.