That’s actually good news. Much better than Dennis Miller, and less obnoxious.

Well, this will last about 10 minutes into any of his stand up specials when it becomes clear a good third of his act is atheism humor.

Side note: The Invention of Lying is totally underrated. 80% of a perfect movie.

The right is praising someone who closed by thanking God that he’s an Atheist?
Are the fundie Christian conservatives on vacation this week?

You beat me to that by sixty seconds, Jon. XD

editorialjoe said:
The right is praising someone who closed by thanking God that he’s an Atheist?
Are the fundie Christian conservatives on vacation this week?

Yes. Branson is bursting at the seams, I am sure.

“Had Gervais “been as relentless in ripping apart Sarah Palin, her young children, Jesus Christ or George W. Bush, today the comedian would be celebrated as ‘edgy’ and ‘courageous.’”’

Are you kidding!

The’ve have nominated him for a Profile in COURAGE Award…

The Real Royal King said:
Yes. Branson is bursting at the seams, I am sure.

Actually, I was looking at Branson just the other day and it appears to be their off-season.

editorialjoe said:
The right is praising someone who closed by thanking God that he’s an Atheist?
Are the fundie Christian conservatives on vacation this week?

Yes, except for two or three you see behind your toaster and under your bed.

Ah the right never quite gets comedy anyway. They latch onto the sound bite, but miss the deeper inflections and meanings. That’s why there are so few conservative comedians (oops is that an oxymoron?).

I believe this might be a case of “grasping at straws”.

I thought Ricky was hilarious. I like my movies, but watching some of those folks squirm brought a little joy to the proletarian part of my heart. I mean, for all the money and trappings of celebrity, they are just people. Just people.

A common enemy or somebody that goofs on their enemy is welcomed by political conservatives.

It gives them self worth and validation. It doesn’t matter how diluted the connection is, they will grab on to anything.

Jon Bershad said:
Well, this will last about 10 minutes into any of his stand up specials when it becomes clear a good third of his act is atheism humor. Side note: The Invention of Lying is totally underrated. 80% of a perfect movie.

Well… I’m a conservative and a non-believer. Am I allowed to find him funny?

It’s a new concept. A comedian who can make fun of people other than Sarah Palin.

writer said:
It’s a new concept. A comedian who can make fun of people other than Sarah Palin.

I’ve always wondered why people like Clooney and Moore get called ‘edgy” b/c they make fun of conservative people at an all liberal gathering. Like Bill Maher going to a show in Cali and making Repub jokes… kinda lazy. I remember a Biography of comedians and one telling a story how they would make fun of other comics that did this, ya know, taking the easy road (or laugh in this case). Wish more comics actually had guts and we could laugh at everyone equally… ya like that will ever happen.

Jon Bershad said:
Side note: The Invention of Lying is totally underrated. 80% of a perfect movie.

Totally underrated . One of my favorites .

Cecelia said:
“Had Gervais “been as relentless in ripping apart Sarah Palin, her young children, Jesus Christ or George W. Bush, today the comedian would be celebrated as ‘edgy’ and ‘courageous.’”’

Are you kidding!

The’ve have nominated him for a Profile in COURAGE Award…

Hell, he would have been nominated for a Golden Globe.

Jon Bershad said:
Well, this will last about 10 minutes into any of his stand up specials when it becomes clear a good third of his act is atheism humor.

Nice stereotype, Jon. Does Oprah like fried chicken, too?

notsofast says:
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Jon Bershad said:
Well, this will last about 10 minutes into any of his stand up specials when it becomes clear a good third of his act is atheism humor.
Nice stereotype, Jon. Does Oprah like fried chicken, too?

What stereotype? Give a prominent conservative who is an atheist.

nice_thought said:
What stereotype? Give a prominent conservative who is an atheist.

Sorry, son, name a prominent Dem who is an atheist.

And son, you don’t have to be prominent to be a Conservative.

nice_thought said:
notsofast says:January 19, 2011 at 1:47 pm  (Quote)0  0Jon Bershad said:Well, this will last about 10 minutes into any of his stand up specials when it becomes clear a good third of his act is atheism humor.Nice stereotype, Jon. Does Oprah like fried chicken, too? What stereotype? Give a prominent conservative who is an atheist.

Wait… What??? Where in there was “prominent” used??? Now you’re putting a quallifier on the original statment, a standard debate distraction. When losing change the original statment. Nowhere in the original statement was the words “prominent conservative” used. I’m a conservative and a non-believer so therefor the original’ blanket statement is a stereotype… period.

Here’s a radical idea: how about we don’t judge comedians by which political party likes them more?

The Dems have taken out a contract on Ricky. Hope he’s able to get out of town before they catch up with him. Good luck old friend.

What is the big deal these award ceremonies have been going after celebrities, mercilessly, for forty years. That is part of the show, for the stars, who are really just regular people like you and me, to laugh at their own egos. And of course the morlocks need to be fed.

Progressives worship royalty since they believe in the divine right of kings and government, so it’s to be expected that they get fiercely defensive when you mock America’s royalty: Hollywood.

The other 81% of the country just thought it was funny.

The reason he’s getting so much support from Conservatives is because we LOVE that liberal HWood got a taste of what they’ve been dishing out to middle America. Utter disdain. As for the Atheist joke, he’s entitled to his own religious views. I don’t agree with him on that, but it’s none of my nevermind.

notsofast said:
Nice stereotype, Jon. Does Oprah like fried chicken, too?

Tatboy and Notsofast, no insult or stereotype intended. It’s just that ragging on religion is as integral to Gervais’ act as demonstrating your religious faith is to getting that far in Conservative politics. There are atheist Conservatives just like there are Christian Conservatives, Muslim Conservatives, Straight Conservatives, and Gay Conservatives. But you can’t deny that Gervais is going to have a hard time becoming the Right’s resident jokester when he spent 15 minutes in a stand up show discussing how a “rubbish” Biblical story made God and Noah sound like gay lovers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDeJEtHZ-KU).

Gervais isn’t just atheist. He openly mocks religion in a way similar to Bill Maher or David Cross. Watch that clip and note the disdain is his voice when he says he stopped believing in Noah “when I was eight.”

People of all creeds and persuasions can like Gervias. I mean, the dude co-created The Office, after all. All I was saying is that there’s no way Ricky Gervais will last long as “The Right’s Favorite Funnyman.”

editorialjoe said:
You beat me to that by sixty seconds, Jon. XD

I just used my evil editorial skills to make my comment first so I’d look better.

Jon Bershad said:
. I mean, the dude co-created The Office, after all

And also puts Steve Caroll (?) to shame.

Andy Millman (Extras) is even funnier than David Brent (The Office)

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
The reason he’s getting so much support from Conservatives is because we LOVE that liberal HWood got a taste of what they’ve been dishing out to middle America. Utter disdain. As for the Atheist joke, he’s entitled to his own religious views. I don’t agree with him on that, but it’s none of my nevermind.

Yes, his jokes support you Hate.

So to you Nacho, saying someone can’t act is now hate speech? Is it as hateful as say wishing death on Gov. Brewer?

Nowadays, nobody can laugh at anything simply because it’s funny.
Even our humor has to travel through a political filter.
Let me guess: Gervais ripping on Travolta was hilarious. But if Gervais ripped on Charlton Heston or Tom Selleck would you have laughed?

redleaf said:
Let me guess: Gervais ripping on Travolta was hilarious. But if Gervais ripped on Charlton Heston or Tom Selleck would you have laughed?

Some of us would STILL have laughed. Others would have predictably got all pussy-hurt.

Jon Bershad said:
All I was saying is that there’s no way Ricky Gervais will last long as “The Right’s Favorite Funnyman.”

I don’t think anyone on the right expects him to be or ever said he would be.

redleaf said:
Let me guess: Gervais ripping on Travolta was hilarious. But if Gervais ripped on Charlton Heston or Tom Selleck would you have laughed?

Dullard, he ripped on Mel Gibson and I had no problem with that. See son, your hypocrisy is not ours.

Of course, the conservatives would be more supportive of Ricky Gervais. They are generally more supportive of free speech than the Left. They are less concerned with political correctness than the Left. They are less worshipful of Hollywood celebrities than the Left.

On the other hand, when it is a question of vulgar speech and profanity, the roles are reversed.

So if you want to speak frank opinions nowadays, the Left is against you. But if you want to shout out the F-word at the top of your lungs, they will rush to your defense.

notsofast said:
Dullard, he ripped on Mel Gibson and I had no problem with that. See son, your hypocrisy is not ours.

You “had no problem” laughing at jokes targeted at an anti-Semitic, misogynist? You’re really going out on a limb. Quite a crappy example to prove how fair minded you are.

Would you laugh if the conservative getting ribbed wasn’t a drunk who beats up his girlfriend?

Please take this time to find another conservative Gervais lampooned and try to convince us how you laughed at the jokes at their expense. I doubt you can.

Jon Bershad said:
People of all creeds and persuasions can like Gervias. I mean, the dude co-created The Office, after all. All I was saying is that there’s no way Ricky Gervais will last long as “The Right’s Favorite Funnyman.”

Probably the mistake here is in anyone conflating Gervais into the “The RIght’s Favorite Funnyman”.

I’d wager that it’s only Hollywood insiders who are criticizing the comic. The audience as a whole most likely relished Gervais’ wise cracks about Hollywood glitterati, with surprised conservatives particularly applauding because they are so often the targets of Tinseltown’s moral colossi.

This whole subject has a bit of the anthropologist bemused at observing natives engaged in a ritual that doesn’t jive with the journals. There most definitely is a sense of stereotyping.

I thought it interesting that someone from the Globes organization declared Gervais had gone too far, trying to distance themselves from his remarks. Yet they knew exactly what they were getting with him and knew the jokes before they aired. Just love the faux outrage after the fact. Thought it was kind of cowardly of them to leave him twisting in the wind when he delivered exactly what they wanted — viewers. Those folks are the ones I see as the most hypocritical.

It’d be nice if we could all just laugh (and be allowed to do so) when something is truly funny, regardless who is jabbing and who’s the jabbee, and without having to break it down among political/religious/class segments. True funniness transcends all that. You don’t have to necessarily agree with the premise of a joke or bit to appreciate that it’s clever or funny. So sick of *everything* being analyzed in terms of left and right and people trying to stir up divisiveness just for the hell of it.

Bunny said:
I thought it interesting that someone from the Globes organization declared Gervais had gone too far, trying to distance themselves from his remarks. Yet they knew exactly what they were getting with him and knew the jokes before they aired. Just love the faux outrage after the fact. Thought it was kind of cowardly of them to leave him twisting in the wind when he delivered exactly what they wanted — viewers. Those folks are the ones I see as the most hypocritical.

It’d be nice if we could all just laugh (and be allowed to do so) when something is truly funny, regardless who is jabbing and who’s the jabbee, and without having to break it down among political/religious/class segments. True funniness transcends all that. You don’t have to necessarily agree with the premise of a joke or bit to appreciate that it’s clever or funny. So sick of *everything* being analyzed in terms of left and right and people trying to stir up divisiveness just for the hell of it.

The HFPA did not vet the script.
Dick Clark Productions and NBC did, obviously.
But not the HFPA.
I bet they won’t make that mistake again.

Bunny said:
I thought it interesting that someone from the Globes organization declared Gervais had gone too far, trying to distance themselves from his remarks. Yet they knew exactly what they were getting with him and knew the jokes before they aired.

Actually, they DIDN’T know what jokes he was going to tell. He wouldn’t tell them (except for his opening stunt, which they immediately nixed). Still, even without knowing the content of his monologue and jabs, they should have known what they were getting from his performance at last year’s Globes.

Funny is funny, it doesnt matter what political persuation it comes from.

I will say this- conservatives in general have a more broad sense of humor.

So they will for the most part watch Leno, even though hes very liberal, because he’s not a cheap shot artist like Letterman.

They will watch South Park because they skewer everyone equally.

And anyone who actually listens to them knows that Beck and Rush can be very funny.

redleaf said:
The HFPA did not vet the script.
Dick Clark Productions and NBC did, obviously.
But not the HFPA.
I bet they won’t make that mistake again.

I’m sorry, my mistake…thanks for the correct info, redleaf. However, they had to know what they were getting with Gervais. It’s not his first time with them, and his skewering of anyone and everything is his stock in trade. If they were expecting gentle ribbing of celebrities, they picked the wrong guy. That said, I do think some of his jokes were better material for stand-up or a roast event.

I just think we all take everything too much to heart these days, even frivolous comedy routines….just makes me kinda sad that we can’t even all enjoy a laugh here and there without someone attacking motives for liking/disliking. KWIM?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
So to you Nacho, saying someone can’t act is now hate speech? Is it as hateful as say wishing death on Gov. Brewer?

What??

Are you now judging professional actors acting skill? BULLSH!T!

Like you give a fvck. You get your jollys from Gervais’ jokes because you perceive he is knocking down somebody or some entity that you HATE down a notch.

He is supplementing YOUR HATE. If you try to disguise it as anything else, you aren;t fooling anybody here; Just your self. You are raising flags, lady. I hope people close to you are aware of your instabilities. Has your Father recommended professional help yet? It might be a wise suggestion.

The Right doesn’t know how to rate comedy on whether it is funny or not but only by whether they agree with the content of the jokes.

That’s why there are no funny conservative comedians.

notsofast said:
Dullard, he ripped on Mel Gibson and I had no problem with that. See son, your hypocrisy is not ours.

Gibson is purportedly a religious conservative but judging from his comments going back for sometime he appears to be more or less liberal on everything else.

Nacho said:
What??

Are you now judging professional actors acting skill? BULLSH!T!

Like you give a fvck. You get your jollys from Gervais’ jokes because you perceive he is knocking down somebody or some entity that you HATE down a notch.

He is supplementing YOUR HATE. If you try to disguise it as anything else, you aren;t fooling anybody here; Just your self. You are raising flags, lady. I hope people close to you are aware of your instabilities. Has your Father recommended professional help yet? It might be a wise suggestion.

Always amused by someone who characterizes the Right as about Hate. Apparently this must make him all about love. I don’t know, I’ve seen plenty of hate coming from Lefties, much of it right in these comments sections.

Jon Bershad said:
All I was saying is that there’s no way Ricky Gervais will last long as “The Right’s Favorite Funnyman.

Undoubtedly theres a bit of Righty schadenfreude from Gervais’ skewering the Hollywood types mercilessly at the Golden Globes, your characterization of him however as “the Right’s favorite funnyman” serves only as a device for you to create the appearance Rightwing hypocrisy.

I would venture he was fairly well liked by people in a bipartisan way until he decided to get into theology. But you further mistake is thinking that Democrats who beleive in God aren’t similarly disappointed in him.

M Colins:

It was fun watching Gervias slap down the over indulgent egotists in their own backyard. I can’t hide the fact that I felt an enormous amount of delectation even though I’m not a Republican. Watching the self absorbed Hollywood egomaniac twits squirm was a treat. Wouldn’t you agree?