Nothing draws Teabaggers like the promise of a petting zoo.  Well played, Michele.

I’m pretty sure that photo of her deep-throating a corn dog garnered all those votes.

GOOD NEWS FOR BACHMANN!!

GOOD NEWS FOR PAUL!!!

GREAT NEWS FOR DEMOCRATS!!!!

“Here is the list of winners:”

So they’re all winners, Jon? Just like the Special Olympics.

Bye bye Pawlenty, Cain, Santorum, Gingrich, and everybody else. Only contender in the straw poll with even a shot at the nomination now is Bachmann.

Yes, when Michele Bachmann draws 150 more Iowan retards with a petting zoo than Ron Paul does with an isolationist foreign policy and goldbuggery, it’s time to call the nomination for Bachmann.  President Romney can tell you that the game’s over.

Ron Paul did an excellent job. so few votes split the top two. I wonder who invested the most money and most media to get those votes? And who the rest are finally listening to and turning towards “his” thinking on common sense.

Ron Paul is the CANDIDATE – 2012

I am thrilled that Sharon Angle Michelle Bachman won !!!!!!!

Four people wrote in Palin!!

Since the first straw poll in 1979, the only winner of the Ames Poll who went on to being President was George W. Bush. Just know that. Pat Robertson won the Iowa straw poll.

Just goes to show you the average intelligence of the straw poll voter when they gave first place to a woman who said that we should have defaulted on our debt limit.

And if history has taught us anything… this doesn’t matter.

Personally, I would have voted for Paul. He had a dunk tank, and a slide!

That’s twice as many as I would have expected.

I must say for the sake of transparency, I love the fact that the carping, complaining, impolite, irrational, bigoted, dull, reactionary, fundamentalist, and fanatical right is now revealed after two years of relentless attacks on our President. It’s a nice break from the constant manufactured outrage against the executive that has dominated our discussion. The more people see these folks under the light of public attention the more context they will have to understand the madness of our age.

Go Bears!

Bat shit crazy wins the straw poll!!!

Michele Bachmann! Have they lost their friggin’ minds?!

This is funny. ”Progressive”animals gathering like the cockroaches they really are on a thread about a meaningless straw poll. LOL. This is sad proof that you monkeys have nothing going for you. LOL.

This is funny. ”Progressive”animals gathering like the cockroaches they really are on a thread about a meaningless straw poll. LOL. This is sad proof that you monkeys have nothing going for you. LOL.

didn’t say that.

I love the fact that the carping, complaining, impolite, irrational,
bigoted, dull, reactionary, fundamentalist, and fanatical right is now
revealed

I know you are but what am I?

manufactured outrage.

Yeah, you keep thinking that.

I love the fact that the carping, complaining, impolite, irrational,
bigoted, dull, reactionary, fundamentalist, and fanatical right is now
revealed

I know you are but what am I?

manufactured outrage.

Yeah, you keep thinking that.

Lie.

I had a great day in Ames today.  

Time to ban you.

You are a moderator?

sure, of course you’re right

Did you write-in Parry? :-)

Meaningless?  How so?

Jon Huntsman has sure been a disappointment. Too bad, he seemed to be a reasonable person as Republicans go. “An adult in the room” so to speak. His campaign is going nowhere. I’m surprised.

I did!! but not sure if it counted though.  ; )

“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”
John Kenneth Galbraith

Any of the candidates looks great compared to the idiot who has spent the last 2 1/2 years ruining our country. That was the 3rd time I’ve seen Herman Cain debate and all three times he’s been at the top along with answering every question they ask him without having to make up something. Even so he will be viewed by most of the black community as not black enough.

what about Rick Parry?

Yeah, NoCommento mentioned you a couple of hours ago up thread.

Fact: Bachman says bit me liberals!

Quote me another Keynesian, in defense of the entitlement society.  No selfishness in that, surely, not in the politicians willing to buy votes with public monies with no regard to solvency or the satisfaction of those whose votes are bought at the expense of future prosperity.

Ron Paul is great on the constitution. Unfortunately, he’s in la-la land on foreign policy. If Truman were like him, we would all be speaking German.

“We can safely abandon the doctrine of the eighties, namely that the rich were not working because they had too little money, the poor because they had much.”
-John Kenneth Galbraith

Of course he is, or you would be able to substantiate your lie.  You can’t, so you resort to “sarcasm.”

“Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it’s just the opposite.” -John Kenneth Galbraith

Capitalism, communism.  Just the same, right?

Besides, I said ANOTHER Keynesian.

You fail.

Truman?
V-E day was three weeks after Truman became President. Truman had little to do with Germany’s downfall. Truman had only been VP since January 1945.

I wasn’t wrong in quoting Bachman. Not wrong at all. It was the first comment of the debate.

@ Paleo

“People are the common denominator of progress. So, paucis verbis, no improvement is possible with unimproved people, and advance is certain when people are liberated and educated. It would be wrong to dismiss the importance of roads, railroads, power plants, mills, and the other familiar furniture of economic development. At some stages of development — the stage that India and Pakistan have reached, for example — they are central to the strategy of development. But we are coming to realize, I think, that there is a certain sterility in economic monuments that stand alone in a sea of illiteracy. Conquest of illiteracy comes first.”. – John Kenneth Galbraith

Spoken like a true liberal with no answers who voted for an empty suit.

Exactly, Paul would give up because he never spent the money on the Mahatten Project and dropped the bomb. God only knows how many more Americans would have been killed for thinking presisely like Ron Paul voters.

I’m not an Iowan, just came to visit.  

Truman assumed the presidency less than a month before Hitler killed himself in his bunker.  That would’ve been some comeback!

Paul is great on the constitution, and only slightly wrong on foreign policy.  He absolutely has a point that what we’re engaged in all over the world makes no economic – or military – sense.  The country that is reserved and mobile is one which can assert its power where it will.  The country that is committed and engaged is one upon which others assert their will.  He likes to complain that we falsely went to Iraq because we wanted to fight Al Qaeda (we didn’t) but note that Al Qaeda fought us there nevertheless, draining us of blood and money (on another topic, in another facet, it was really Iran with whom we were in a proxy fight – the battle was won, but the war we lost.  And political capital is diminished from directly confronting them on the nuclear issue).

Paul’s main fault is that he doesn’t see the determination of freedom’s enemy, Islamo-fascism, who won’t stand by while we here at home relearn the niceties and capabilities of constitutional governance.  Our populace, not habituated to such, doesn’t know what it means to have a war declared, as would be necessary in today’s environment.

The straw poll only reflects who people like at that moment. It dosent however reflect who people would like to see run for POTUS.
For example, before the 2008 elections it was Mike Huckabee who won the Iowa straw poll. But it was Mccain who ended up getting the repub nomination. In the end it was Obama who won the election and it was he who continued and added to Bushs wars of aggression and it was he who continued and added to Bushs harmful ”progressive” legislation that almost brought our economy to its knees.
So like I said, the straw poll is meaningless.

You don’t know what a default is (not making interest payments to bondholders), or how different that is from an unwillingness to raise the debt limit (not authorizing the borrowing of further monies) – that is evident – or you don’t care to draw the distinction.  Whatever the case, your statement was a lie.

Correction- Romney won the 2008 Iowa straw poll. Not Huckabee, who came in a close second.

“People are the common denominator of progress. So, paucis verbis, no improvement is possible with unimproved people, and advance is certain when people are liberated and educated. It would be wrong to dismiss the importance of roads, railroads, power plants, mills, and the other familiar furniture of economic development. At some stages of development — the stage that India and Pakistan have reached, for example — they are central to the strategy of development. But we are coming to realize, I think, that there is a certain sterility in economic monuments that stand alone in a sea of illiteracy. Conquest of illiteracy comes first.”. – John Kenneth Galbraith

Why don’t you just marry John Kenneth Gailbraith?

Seriously, do you have a point to make beyond his and your false equivalencies between unfortunate but natural inequities under capitalist systems (which don’t falsely promise equality of outcomes) and base communist oppression inherrent to systems that deny freedom (so to reduce everyone to equal levels of poverty and submission – everyone but party insiders) or am I required now to refute every copy paste you can put up of one dead Keynesian commie apologist?

Precisely none.  When Truman assumed office, Japan had already shown a willingness to surrender under the terms eventually granted them – the retention of their Emperor.  Those who died following this died to fulfill an FDR campaign speech for unconditional surrender, and not for any strategic geopolitical necessity.

@ Paleo

“In all life one should comfort the afflicted, but verily, also, one should afflict the comfortable, and especially when they are comfortably, contentedly, even happily wrong.” – John Kenneth Galbraith

 ”Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one’s government is not necessarily to secure freedom.”
Friedrich August von Hayek

“It seems to me that socialists today can preserve their position in academic economics merely by the pretense that the differences are entirely moral questions about which science cannot decide.”
Friedrich August von Hayek

How does a lying loser like you even face the world everyday?
Just how dumb are you not to know that Obama is going to lose big time?

“We must face the fact that the preservation of individual freedom is incompatible with a full satisfaction of our views of distributive justice.”
Friedrich August von Hayek. 

“We shall not grow wiser before we learn that much that we have done was very foolish.”
Friedrich August von Hayek 

You need to look at what happened in Wisconsin. The unions thought they had the people on their side. LOL. The news media said the rioters were real people. They were union thugs and dumb college students that had no idea what the real world is like.
Trying to portray every republican as some extreme nut is not going to work. Keep trying.

“I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.”
-John Stuart Mill

“Liberals, it has been said, are generous with other peoples’ money, except when it comes to questions of national survival when they prefer to be generous with other people’s freedom and security.”
William F. Buckley, Jr. 

“Liberals, it has been said, are generous with other peoples’ money, except when it comes to questions of national survival when they prefer to be generous with other people’s freedom and security.”
William F. Buckley, Jr. 

“Truth is a demure lady, much too ladylike to knock you on your head and drag you to her cave. She is there, but people must want her, and seek her out.”
William F. Buckley, Jr.

“Back in the thirties we were told we must collectivize the nation because the people were so poor. Now we are told we must collectivize the nation because the people are so rich.”
William F. Buckley,Jr 

“I would like to take you seriously, but to do so would affront your intelligence”
William F Buckley, Jr

“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
William F. Buckley,Jr.

16892 votes were cast in the Ames straw poll.  Bachman 4823, Ron Paul 4671, Tim Paulenty 2293, Rick Santorum 1657, Herman Cain 1456, Rick Perry 718, Mitt Romney 567, Newt Gengrich 385, Hon Huntsman 69, Thad McCotter 35.  Total of these votes 16674.  Where are the other 218 votes?  Perhaps Rick P A rry.  Just curious.

Touche, broadhorizons you beat me to it.  I wanted to tell the corndog joke.

You can continue spinning your heels, ILLUSIVE_MAN, but what we’ve learned with all this is that Greg won’t argue his own vapid points, which are nothing but insults, but does has access to a quotation site – by which, with his inability to process and articulate the ideas those quotes convey, it’s shown the heroes which form his opinions are a far cry above his own intellect.

Vidal: “As far as I am concerned, the only crypto Nazi I can think of is yourself.”
Buckley: “Now listen, you queer, stop calling me a crypto-Nazi or I’ll sock you in you goddamn face and you’ll stay plastered.”
—Democratic National Convention, 1968

For eleven nights we had “debated” one another on television, first at the Republican Convention in Miami Beach and then at the Democratic Convention in Chicago. The American Broadcasting Company had asked us to discuss politics, and so I had spent a number of weeks doing research on the major candidates as well as on my sparring partner. From past experience, I knew that as a debater Buckley would have done no research, that what facts he had at his command would be jumbled by the strangest syntax since General Eisenhower faded from the scene, that he would lie (“McCarthy never won a majority in any state he ever ran in . . .”) with an exuberance which was almost but not quite contagious; and that within three minutes of our first debate, if the going got tough for him on political grounds, he would mention my “pornographic” novel Myra Breckinridge and imply its author was a “degenerate.” This is of course what happened. This is what always happens when Buckley performs. As columnist or debater, he has made sniggering sexual innuendos about a range of public figures, and there is some evidence that what may have begun as a schoolboy debater’s trick to save a losing argument has now become morbid obsession.”

http://homepage.mac.com/tomdalekeever/vidalesquire69.html

“If the entire Negro population in the South were suddenly given the vote and were to use it as a block and pursuant to directives handed down by some more demagogic Negro leaders, chaos would ensue.”
-William F. Buckley, Jr.

http://www.juliangough.com/journal/2008/5/27/stealing-will-selfs-pig.html

Ron Paul 2012! only true people’s choice… the rest are bought and paid for and not for the people.

Probably truly Ron Paul’s votes they decided to throw out to give it to Bachman… the main stream media is at it again with their games.

http://www.petapixel.com/2011/08/12/do-people-always-see-the-same-things-when-they-look-at-colors/

A pasted link  Color me not surprised.

And they say pathetic troll behavior isn’t just pretense.

Some insiders have said that Ron Paul actually won but they didn’t want him to win so they flipped some of his votes. They even play this game inside their own party. 

Where did Paul say he was a pacifist? When did he say he would not have responded to the attack on Pearl Harbor? Did you know he served in the military? He was an Air Force flight surgeon. That’s not Navy Seal stuff, but he sure wasn’t a pacifist.

You should have heard Huckabee talking about how important it was.
According to Huckabee’s analysis, everybody from Santorum on down the list will be out of the running within two weeks. (Exception for those who did not participate in the straw poll).

No requirement to show voter registration, right?

Well written.
Thank you.

A whole bunch of quotations follow. I would just like to point out that one can find support for any idea by quoting a famous and respected person. Unfortunately, not everything such a person says is appropriate for every situation and some things are ambiguous enough that they could be turned on the quoter.
No argument can be won with a single quote, but they are fun.

A whole bunch of quotations follow. I would just like to point out that one can find support for any idea by quoting a famous and respected person. Unfortunately, not everything such a person says is appropriate for every situation and some things are ambiguous enough that they could be turned on the quoter.
No argument can be won with a single quote, but they are fun.

just4thefax,
Bachmann has done better than I expected.
Bit me indeed.
Congratulations!
Bachmann has impressed Nature Freak. I actually have to take her seriously now.
Good night!

Half as many as I expected. But then, she wasn’t forking out for free burgers, fries, and ribs.

there’s that word thug again. Everybody is a thug.

Sounds like 2nd grade jealousy to me.

Michele Bachmann? Bwahahahahahahahaha. Obama is gonna win no problem.

I know knee-jerk conservatives will jump all over this, but maybe the few who can think and post here will at least think about this.

You conservatives are enjoying the fact that you have so many candidates, and that gives you the false impression that having more than six times as many candidates somehow equals having six times as many voters on your side. It just don’t work that way. Your field will eventually narrow to one, and half of you will be demanding a recount at the Republican national convention.

By then, there will be no do-overs.

Well, I am a libertarian leaning conservative that isn’t impressed with the amount of candidates that have thrown their hats in, but, so be it,  they are free to work their will. 

“…six times as many voters…” is that how it works?  We had a number of candidates to opt from in the 08 campaign, McCain was chosen….prior to the convention, and many disgruntled conservatives, understanding very well that there are “no do-overs”….stayed home on election day.

BTW, there was no primary voting for hubby and me in 08, it was all over before Illinois voters had a chance to vote for a primary candidate, it wouldn’t have been McCain for either of us.  My concern is that history repeats itself and we are again robbed of our chance to vote in this primary.

When did you complete second grade? Why does a liar like you hide behind that phony name. Cowards like you are what is wrong with this country. You need help.

Only fools that hide their faces and their names are thugs. People like YOU. You are so afraid of being ridiculed that you have to hide under your beds after you write stupid comments.
Now get back to work, the carry out bell is ringing.

When I said six times as many voters, I was thinking only of the most ardent conservatives who are on a power dream. The kind who think Tea Party conservatives will take over the whole Republican party.

I’m only guessing, of course, but I’m guessing you will get a chance to primary Romney and Perry or Romney, Bachmann and Perry. I think Huntsman should replace Romney on the moderate end of the conservative spectrum, and the odds are Perry can beat out Bachmann.

All in all, Huntsman would have the best chance of beating Obama, but I don’t see that match-up happening. 

I was wrong about the Illinois primary date, don’t know why I remembered it that way.  Madigan and Blago moved the March 18 date to Feb 5, Super Tuesday to benefit Obama’s primary run.  I’m in Colorado in Feb, so must have completely missed the primary that year, senior thing. lol  Went back and read through some of the stats and it looked like McCain had his delegates by the end of Febuary leaving late primary states completely out. 

Effort to correct the problem:

http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012-republican-primary-schedule/

I have enjoyed  a couple of Huntsman’s interviews, still a bit new to me, need to do a bit of studying.  So much ink on the rest, reminds me of 08, at this point none of the front runners appeal to me. 

Calm down, tubby.

Relax…maybe have a corn-dog with your “buddy” Marcus:

http://www.politicususa.com/wp-content/uploads/Screen-shot-2011-08-12-at-11.35.54-PM-300×232.png

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Tim T-Paw Pawlenty is OUT!!!

Either way you slice it we only have 18 mos. left of president Fumbles Obungles…hip hip huuurray!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/14/breaking-pawlenty-to-end-presidential-run/

No, some people are terrorists and hostage takers. Ask any Democrat.

Any idea how much Paul spent? Bachmann? You know Paul always swamps these things, right?

One cannot default on a debt limit, numbnuts. And we absolutely were not going to default on our debt. How does it feel to be dumber than a Bachmann voter?

Obama’s lies are TRVTH, Paleo. It just is. Now stop thinking and eat your peas.

Aren’t we really just waiting to see who Fox decides to campaign for? Any bets? Perry?

Did you enjoy some fried penis?

Despite being twice as black and three times more authentic than Obama.

That may exactly what gaff a minute Bachman would say. Then something inaccurate about history.

That may exactly what gaff a minute Bachman would say

lolwut?

Who said anything about him being a pacifist? Who said anything about Pearl Harbor?

Is this really the best you nitwits can come up with? Good luck with that.

I think you’re delusional. Just because you think dumb things doesn’t mean anyone else thinks them. Further, Dems could use another candidate or two, but you’re stuck with this albatross around your neck.

Your field will eventually narrow to one, and half of you will be demanding a recount at the Republican national convention.

You know, maybe they should get some Superdelegates to do the picking so they wouldn’t have to worry about all those pesky people and whatever they want.

Heh,

http://www.theknoxvillejournal.com/content/stories/opinion/Obama-The-Cheater.html

I don’t know. Who’d they campaign for last time?

What?  You two nitwits scared of T-Paw?  Too funny!

Where do you get these golden closing insults, Gordon?

Meanwhile, a thought for the day, from the Democratic Party’s 1924 nominee John W. Davis, who, after losing to Calvin Coolidge but feeling that one of his problems was the strain of demagogic populism in the Democratic Party, said this:

“When will we get done with the fool idea that the way to make a party grow is to scare away everybody who has an extra dollar in his pocket?  God forbid that the Democratic Party should become a mere gathering of the unsuccessful!”

from today’s Powerline blog

You and your home boy are retards. The place to post your retarded corn dog jokes is on the corn dog mediate page.

By the way, how does Barney take his corn dog? In the Corn hole, like you and rasta-jerk-off?
http://gawker.com/5828963/watch-barney-frank-fart-on-live-tv

Which one of you is giving him the squint-eye from the brown-eye?

http://www.mediaite.com/online/look-out-mediaite-commenters-we-are-watching-you/

Blame it on the alcohol.. and the hair plug surgery.

Or a nice old fashioned o’bama-nut job… peanut brained peabagging Pea-nut…

http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/285049/Obama+Blowjob/

The numbers don’t add up. It totals 16,674. When I add in the reported 162 scattering (?) to 16,674, it adds up to 16836. Why the discrepancy?
We’re not talking about alot of votes here to count, folks. There were only 16,892 votes total. If the Iowa GOP can’t do simple math, they should refund every candidate the money they spent on the straw poll and issue a formal statement nullifying the results and apologies to the participants and supporters.

28.56% (4,823 votes) – Michele Bachmann
27.65% (4,671 votes) – Ron Paul
13.57% (2,293 votes) – Tim Pawlenty
9.81% (1,657 votes) – Rick Santorum
8.62% (1,456 votes) – Herman Cain
4.25% (718 votes) – Rick Perry (write-in)
3.36% (567 votes) – Mitt Romney
2.28% (385 votes) – Newt Gingrich
0.41% (69 votes) – Jon Huntsman
0.21% (35 votes) – Thaddeus McCotter

August 1979 George H W Bush won straw poll lost the nomination.
August 1987 Pat Robertson won straw poll lost the nomination.
August 1995 Bob Dole and Phil Graham tied Dole lost the election to Clinton.
August 1999 George W Bush  won the straw poll and won the presidency.
August 2007 Mitt Romney won  straw poll and lost the nomination.
August 2011 Michelle Bachman won straw poll……….? 
NOTICE A PATTERN HERE??!!!!
The Iowa Straw Poll knows how to pick a loser!!!!  Congratulations Bachman!!! Keep up the good work!!!!

We all know what o’bmaa thinks of the special Olympiads… MISTER O’Tolerance and O’DIVERSITY!

“His controversial joke hadn’t even aired yet when President Obama got on the phone from Air Force One Thursday night to apologize for comparing his notoriously bad bowling skills to the Special Olympics.”

Once again, liberal hate speech is re-defined as “comedy”. Kinda like this “funny shit”..
 
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-panel-hits-new-low-with-talk-of-hard-fking-michele-bachmann-and-rick-santorum/

But PLEASE, don’t ask democrat/liberal/progressive retards to call a muslim terrorist, a muslim terrorist. Or a muslim hostage taker, a muslim hostage taker. Or a muslim suicide bomber, a muslim suicide bomber. They are only misunderstood “religious radicals” yet Breivik and McVeigh represent the entire Christian religion, the entire WHITE race, and are the true definition of “fanatical religious” terrorists.

Not to mention, as you said, the TEA Party as described by the PeaBagging, PeaBrained, Pea-Nut leftists.

As o’barry soetoro says, “Hat Salami on da lake-um”!

Ron Paul has the right ideas, but he loses them in his delivery. He is too old. Worship his son, give his son some money, and try to get his son elected POTUS. He has the message, the delivery, and the sanity.

How about illegible, multiple vote or otherwise invalidated ballots? We’re only talking 1%. And it’s not like it matters.

The straw poll means squat, but it’s always sort of pissed me off that a few small states decide for the rest of the country our candidates.

Defaulted on the Debt Limit?  While I’m confident Bachmann is not all that smart the real ignorance is the poster above.  She was advocating an imaginary cut to spending while not increasing the debt limit, not defaulting on the debt limit.  Is that what they are teaching these days along with Printing Money.

It would have been defaulting on some portion of our grossly oversized Super Size Me Federal Govt’s promises (aka Bills) that they knew they couldn’t keep.She didn’t say she was trying to Default on the Limit though that would have been better than lending (aka giving) a Crack addict another $2.4 Trillion with his/her promise that he/she would promise to cut back.  No more crack next time and I mean it.  Do you want a time out?!Just think about it, the Gov’t, both D’s & R’s waited till the last moment to demand a credit increase, when they couldn’t pay their bills already.  They should have been figuring out which Federal Agencies have actually lived up to their mandate and cut the rest over the last two years.  But no, they instead fought over an unconstitutional health care mandate and the Dodd-Frank Financial BS Act which did not include a restoration of Glass-Stegal.  

Note that is said THEIR bills.  Remember this when they ruin everyone’s lives as they try to print THEIR way out of this mess THEY put us in.

The Ames Straw Poll does not pick winners. But it tells some candidates that they really ought to find something else to do in the future, because the White House is not in the cards.

(Hint: Newt Gingrich, Thad McCotter, Jon Huntsman, time for you guys to join Tim Pawlenty on the sidelines.)

My sister voted because I don’t live in Iowa.  

I have a hard time fathoming what kind of victory Bachmann had. She got nearly 5000 votes out of approximately 25,000 cast and I understand anyone could vote, Democrat, Republican, Independent ,as long as they were a registered voter in Iowa. I would imagine some non-Republicans went and voted for her as a prank. This is hardly a resounding triumph. And, let’s face it, this woman means us no good. She is against every progressive and sensible piece of legislation that’s happened in the last hundred years, and she’s utterly homophobic. Her supporters are basically ignorant and venal people who would destroy this country because they hate Obama. Obviously, she is not going to be our next President. I have one question for you Bachmannites. Do you really think she is fit to serve as President and represent us to the world? And don’t give me the nonsense retort about how unqualified Obama is. He’s a highly educated person who will eventually, hopefully soon, get his mojo in working order. 

Squint-eye from the brown-eye?  Sounds like you’re speaking from experience!

Sorry bub, Obama is an unqualified failure who did very poorly in school. He’s an embarrassment to the USA and a joke among world leaders. The day he stops breathing can’t come soon enough.

You know, the true thoughts of a person do show when they write it down. making downgrading remarks about Special Olympics is uncalled for. Those people are the innocents of society and don’t need to be made fun of. Keep your remarks about Special Olympics and Retardedness to yourself. Other derogetory words can be used without pin-pointing them.

You had to pay money to attend the Ames Straw Poll and vote — not sure how much, but the money collected went to the Iowa Republican Party.

So why would any Democrats attend, whether to vote for or against any of the candidates at an event that doesn’t mean that much? If they want to contribute to the Iowa Republican Party, they can do that from the comfort of their own homes.

As for Michele Bachmann, she will do until someone better comes along. Underestimate her at your own risk… she appears to be a pretty effective politician.

There use to be a time when we respected our elders, knowing they have had enough time in the world to actually know it. His age to me is a plus. His ability to stand this many years without swaying his values marks an honest common sense man. Something lacking in all the others who flip flop like fish out of water. a person that will not bend for party favors. He still has the message and the sanity he needs to pull us out of our troubles and wake America up. If his delivery is not within the one minute sound bite media demands, they need to take the time to listen for a change and allow him two minutes. Unfortunately, he is not Washington as usual so left and right media try to ignore him.. kinda hard ignoring a front runner in all polls all the time… but they are trying.

There use to be a time when we respected our elders, knowing they have had enough time in the world to actually know it. His age to me is a plus. His ability to stand this many years without swaying his values marks an honest common sense man. Something lacking in all the others who flip flop like fish out of water. a person that will not bend for party favors. He still has the message and the sanity he needs to pull us out of our troubles and wake America up. If his delivery is not within the one minute sound bite media demands, they need to take the time to listen for a change and allow him two minutes. Unfortunately, he is not Washington as usual so left and right media try to ignore him.. kinda hard ignoring a front runner in all polls all the time… but they are trying.

Maybe Paul is not afraid of the Boogieman and knows just how much money is spent and hidden from the American people to support all these wars that actually will not come to American soil. He is Border Strong and wishes America to prosper not PUSH their will on others..he wants relations with friendly nations not puppet regimes.  this is wrong why?

You seem to know a lot about what a teabagger is…lotta practice??

As for the grass roots peeps, we are TEA PARTY people.

SamFox

Looks like you have some friends who might like yer handle there DS.

http://spktruth2power.wordpress.com/2010/04/15/walter-cronkite-glad-to-set-at-the-right-hand-of-satan/#comments

http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/profiles/blogs/backgrounds-dedicated-to

You a trying to be in on the trend?

SamFox

Not raising the debt ceiling is not a default to default. Saying that repeats a lie, a lib prog propaganda sound bite. Sorta like Reefer Madness. Or man caused global warming. Or peak oil & ‘fossil’ fuels. Or the world will stop spinning if the ceiling is not raised.

If the debt ceiling had not been raised 0 & circus would have been forced to actually cut spending. What a novel concept! Would love to see it happen. 0 would have been forced to spend within a B-U-D-G-E-T!! 0 would have had to spend only what comes in, some where around 200 bill+ a MONTH. He would have had to cut some burroacracies, but we don’t need most of them any way.

I used to be a fan of Bachmann’s. She was a some what distant 2nd to Ron Paul. Then I read where she voted to extend the ‘Patriot’ Act cause it had a coupla ‘good provisions’ in it. Saying that is like seeing 3 cents in a truck load of bull & jumping in. I wonder why the phony Fox moderator news guy didn’t call her on that…hmmm.

Ron Paul is the only candidate who would actually work with congress to cut spending, end the ME wars, the drug war, reduce the size & illegal reach of the fed govt, open the ‘Fed’s’ books…Next to him is Gary Johnson. But Gary is excluded because he sounds to much like Paul.

I do wonder what the big govt establishment fears…

I’d say only vote Ron Paul if you want the country back, If you really want to have freedom & liberty. If you really want to again own your own body with out some burrocrat telling you what to do all the time…

SamFox

I am reading about Saul Alinsky and his techniques for the first time as I look at the second link you give.
Interesting. Thank you! I will use some of those rules in future, maybe.
Here’s the thing.
I first heard of Saul from Glenn Beck himself. You see, Glenn uses the very same tactics that Alinsky describes, and he would be a fool not to. Beck is nothing if not an activist, just like Alinsky is. Beck is an expert on the propaganda of the left and the right, and propaganda always works on the same principles. I could say all of politics is propaganda.
Propaganda comes in three forms: Black, which is lies you think you can get away with; White, which is pure truth (but it still qualifies as propaganda because you have a target and an intended effect.); and Grey, which is a combination of Black and White. Grey Propaganda is the most effective and insidious because the elements of truth are far more convincing than pure Black Propaganda could ever be, while pure White is boring to most people. That makes it easy to reject when you disagree.
Now, you study the second link again and tell me you don’t understand and use the same techniques to support what you consider to be White Propaganda with a bit of excitement added. If you do not, you are bringing a knife to a gun fight.
People do get most flustered when drawn into violating rule two. Use rule three, as you just did, to draw them into rule 2.
I do not see any proof that Alinski dedicated this to Lucifer. Perhaps you can find the link with that dedication, not just the claim by the Patriotic Action Network

PS Tell me the name Patriotic Action Network is not intentional propaganda, and I will shoot that knife out of your hand with my gun. I like guns.

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm

Can’t find the pic. But there are a lot of written sources.

You ‘gun’ is useless. Shoot it if ya want. Telling the truth is not the same as propagandizing…

SamFox

At this stage of the primary campaign, it is okay to have your favorite and okay to bash the opposition. But at some point there will be only one nominee and most will be at least slightly disappointed that their favorite did not win. Then Republicans (and independents) will have to consider their positions and decide whether they’d rather see Barack Obama get another term. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_propaganda
http://digital.nls.uk/propaganda/white/index.html
white propagandan propaganda that comes from the source it claims to come from Compare black propaganda, grey propaganda
http://www.stentorian.com/propagan.html