Grayson’s ‘Die Quickly’ Is A Far Cry From Wilson’s ‘You Lie!’
A relatively unknown Democratic Congressman from Florida made his celebrity debut on the House floor and in front of CSPAN cameras this week, and since then it’s become the sound bite everyone’s discussing (video after the jump). Representative Alan Grayson of the ninth district has now reached political celebrity because of his sarcastic rant describing the Republican health care plan, which went a little like this:
Here it is. The Republican health care plan for America: Don’t get sick. That’s right, don’t get sick. If you have insurance don’t get sick. If you don’t have insurance, don’t get sick. If you’re sick, don’t get sick. Just don’t get sick. That’s what Republicans have in mind for you America. That’s the Republicans’ health care plan. But I think that the Republicans understand that that plan isn’t always going to work, it’s not a foolproof plan. So the Republicans have a backup plan in case you do get sick. If you get sick in America, this is what Republicans want you to do. If you get sick America, the Republican health care plan is this: die quickly.
This ballsy address has gotten the attention of Politico, Huffington Post, NY Magazine’s Daily Intel, the Wall Street Journal, Fox News, and even Joe Scarborough on MSNBC yesterday morning, basically ensuring its merit as a lead story for the rest of the day.
Yesterday House Republicans demanded that Grayson apologize and started circulating a resolution of disapproval, the same slap on the wrist that their own Joe Wilson got for his own rambunctious verbal address. Grayson obliged with an apology, though in a very different manner than what the Republicans were expecting. “I apologize to the dead and their families that we haven’t voted sooner to end this holocaust in America,” Grayson said on the house floor.
Media outlets have been quick to draw parallels between the two, and even North Carolina Representative Patrick McHenry is likening Grayson’s passionate, albeit contemptuous, demonstration to the “You lie!” outburst a few weeks ago. Yesterday, the Congressman tweeted:
Will Pelosi hold vote to reprimand #Grayson?http://bit.ly/4pGUWN Or was JWilson reprimand just partisan politics after all? #tcot
The problem with this comparison is that the two situations don’t compare at all. Indeed, Grayson was acting in a provocative way, but he was yelling to us through CSPAN. Wilson yelled at the President, to his face. Grayson was making a point, however colorfully, and he had the right to do so with his allotted five minutes. Wilson wasn’t just talking out of turn, but interrupting a televised speech. Being made by the President.
People make confrontational speeches in the House all the time. But shouting like you’re in kindergarten while someone else is talking is something entirely different.
Apples and oranges. Which was part of the point Keith Olbermann made on Countdown last night.
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Maybe his first comments weren’t on par with what Rep. Joe Wilson shouted (although, he actually did apologize after), but Grayson’s “apology” yesterday (“I apologize to the dead and their families that we haven’t voted sooner to end this Holocaust in America”) goes way beyond making a point.
If Speaker Pelosi really does have “concerns about some of the language” being used, as she said tearfully, then she should condemn this as she did Wilson’s comments.
Michelle Malkin: Alan Grayson’s diarrhea of the mouth
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/01/alan-graysons-diarrhea-of-the-mouth/
Let me understand this. Republicans racing around the country shouting “Obama’s Death Panels,” is OK, but any Democrat suggesting the same is bad?
Nothing like a little blatant hypocrisy. Oh, and enough with the endless demand for apologies. If anything, the entire Congress – all 535 of them – owe America an apology for their pathetic behavior.
Grayson may have been over dramatic and used language that is extreme, but that is neither new or unusual anymore. It is within the rules, though. Wilson violated the rules of the House with his outburst.
We have become an ultra thin skinned society that now searches every utterance looking for an insult and then demanding an apology. Maybe the kids on Capitol Hill should all take a 10 minute time out and relearn their jobs.
Ms. Malkin needs to control her own diarrhea of the mouth once in a while.
Well, Ms. Zhang and Keeva… let’s read the language of the official sanction:
Whereas on September 9, 2009, during the joint session of Congress convened pursuant to House Concurrent Resolution 179, the President of the United States, speaking at the invitation of the House and Senate, had his remarks interrupted by the Representative from South Carolina, Mr. Wilson; and Whereas the conduct of the Representative from South Carolina was a breach of decorum and degraded the proceedings of the joint session, to the discredit of the House: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the House of Representatives disapproves of the behavior of the Representative from South Carolina, Mr. Wilson, during the joint session of Congress held on September 9, 2009.
So the resolution was for “a breach of decorum and degraded the proceedings of the joint session, to the discredit of the House.” Does suggesting that Republicans “want you to die,” or comparing ANYTHING to the Holocaust not qualify as a “breach of decorum,” or “degrading the proceedings,” or bring “discredit to the House”? Really? What he said was insulting, wrong, and disrespectful. If Nancy Pelosi wants to cry about “bad language,” she needs to be able to call it out from her own side too. The Wilson event was a partisan stunt, and this event highlights it’s hypocrisy.
(PS- Keeva… “Death Panels,” referred to “healthcare rationing,” a very real prospect in the idea of government run heathcare. Not sure what you thought/think it is.)
Hey BONER and friends run at the mouth on the House Floor all the time. This is no comparison to what Wilson did. Watch CSPAN. Both parties run at the mouth.
@Keeva Ms. Malkin needs to control her own diarrhea of the mouth once in a while. Now Malkin is what I would call a hateful person!!!
Grayson is the representative of the EIGHTH district of Florida, not the ninth. http://www.graysonforcongress.com/files/graysonforcongress/mapdistrict8.pdf
ImNotBlue: Grayson had the floor and he did not make his comments during a joint-session. Your offensive crowd has been throwing around Hitler and Nazi comparisons, images, racist remarks (yes, belonging to White Supremacy and pro-Slavery activist groups while calling a black man a Liar or saying he isn’t legitimate as an American is racist). How dare you now speak *on behalf* of those who would actually find it offensive? YOU are offensive hypocritical and you make me sick. “Death Panels” are a very real prospect for the thousands of Americans who die every year because they can’t receive treatment from the *RATIONING* of health care by the insurance companies. You can’t be this stupid and detached from reality and pretend to be a functioning member of society.
And I can’t even get into the holocaust vs Holocaust because you’re that willfully ignorant it wouldn’t make a difference.
ingenieux says:
October 1, 2009 at 8:49 pm
“Your offensive crowd has been throwing around Hitler and Nazi comparisons, images, racist remarks…”
I have no “crowd,” but more importantly, I’ve routinely condemned the “Hitler/Nazi” analogy no matter who makes it.
“yes, belonging to White Supremacy and pro-Slavery activist groups…”
Like Senator Byrd?
“while calling a black man a Liar…”
Isn’t having two sets of rules dependent on color (who you can call what), racism? So aren’t you a racist for advocating that SOME people can’t be critiqued based on skin color, while others can? Let me answer… yes… yes, you are.
“…or saying he isn’t legitimate as an American is racist.”
Well, their claim (wrong as it is) isn’t actually based upon his race… that’s something you’ve inferred. Seems like another “you problem,” you’re projecting on others.
“How dare you now speak *on behalf* of those who would actually find it offensive?”
Show me where I didn’t speak previously, please… since you must know me so well.
“YOU are offensive hypocritical and you make me sick.”
Take a TUMS, you’ll feel better.
“Death Panels” are a very real prospect for the thousands of Americans who die every year because they can’t receive treatment from the *RATIONING* of health care by the insurance companies.”
And it would be better if the Government did that rationing? My argument is that it’s not right for EITHER group. You’d feel better if the Government was behind your death sentence… Why?
“You can’t be this stupid and detached from reality and pretend to be a functioning member of society.”
Can’t I? Ouch-ouch… you hurt my feelings. Wait… okay, I”m over it.
“And I can’t even get into the holocaust vs Holocaust because you’re that willfully ignorant it wouldn’t make a difference.”
You can’t? Is that because you know that since “the Holocaust” (capitalized) happened, people don’t use the word “holocaust” (lowercase) to describe anything unless they’re purposely making a comparison to the murder of 6-million Jews? Your argument (which you don’t make because you know it’s foolish) is predicated on the fact that you think people are stupid, and you can fool them with a little semantic juggling. Sorry… that’s not going to work. It was obvious the comparison Grayson was making. He is disgusting and disrespectful for doing it, and if you want to make partisan excuses because you agree with him on a political basis, so are you.
PS- ingenieux
If you really dislike the “Holocaust” vs “holocaust” difference, perhaps you should correct the writes of this site too…
http://www.mediaite.com/online/money-quote-grayson-nrcc-raising-funds-from-health-care-holocaust/
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