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In Support Of Egyptian Revolts, Bill Kristol Targets Glenn Beck, Conservative ‘Hysteria’

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Glenn Beck‘s week-long explanation of the impending caliphate ready to strike Egypt has certainly struck a cord in the mainstream– left and right alike. The latest pundit to take a shot at him is the Weekly Standard‘s Bill Kristol, who, while expressing skepticism as to the ability of Egyptian protesters to non-violently enact change, is far more concerned with Beck’s “hysteria.”

Framing his latest piece, “Stand for Freedom,” around his respective agreements and disagreements with fellow conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer, Kristol notes that reasonable conservatives may disagree on the best solution for the Egyptian crisis and where America should stay, diplomatically, in regard to the struggle. But Beck and those like him, to Kristol, have crossed a line:

But hysteria is not a sign of health. When Glenn Beck rants about the caliphate taking over the Middle East from Morocco to the Philippines, and lists (invents?) the connections between caliphate-promoters and the American left, he brings to mind no one so much as Robert Welch and the John Birch Society. He’s marginalizing himself, just as his predecessors did back in the early 1960s.

Nor is it a sign of health when other American conservatives are so fearful of a popular awakening that they side with the dictator against the democrats. Rather, it’s a sign of fearfulness unworthy of Americans, of short-sightedness uncharacteristic of conservatives, of excuse-making for thuggery unworthy of the American conservative tradition.

Beck is no stranger to conspiracy theorist comparisons, though Kristol distancing himself from Beck to not-agree with Krauthammer is an interesting tactic. And while Beck may be the only one mentioned by name in Kristol’s piece, he continues to target “talk radio hosts” in general, hoping that, no matter where on the issue they end up, they defend the people over the dictator– the Declaration of Independence taking the cornerstone position of his argument. Conservatives, he concludes, should adopt the principles of the American Revolution to the situation in Egypt, and appreciate that such violent revolts are sometimes necessary. This reference to the Founders and the founding documents, of course, hits at the core of everything that Beck stands for– as close to a personal shot as Kristol is going to get. Certainly, commentators will focus on the above-quoted paragraph as the “beef-starter” in the two-page essay– and they have– if only for the John Birch Society reference, but it’s truly the framework that pits Beck on the opposing side of the Founders that will rattle him and, should he choose the respond, the part of the piece he would most likely attempt to debunk.

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  • Garth

    When Bill Kristol understands you’re an embarrassment, you’ve got problems. Lowry over at NRO says Kristol is correct in calling out Beck. Duh.

  • ProgLib

    Wonder if Glenn knows that Mubarak is also a muslim?

  • nice_thought

    Oops.

  • grafxmail7

    HAHA!
    This is hilarious!!!

    You have Bill Kristol calling out Chicken Little Beck.

    I can’t wait for his followers to chime in!

    This is going to be pure entertainment.

  • BatBoy

    “But Beck and those like him, to Kristol, have crossed a line”

    That is OK, sometimes we think Kristol crosses the line.

    Hey we are a pretty big tent and do allow people with different ideas.

  • Garth

    BatBoy said:
    “But Beck and those like him, to Kristol, have crossed a line”

    That is OK, sometimes we think Kristol crosses the line.

    Hey we are a pretty big tent and do allow people with different ideas.

    That’s good because evidently some in the GOP have been putting pressure on Ailes and Mudrock to tone the embarrassment (Glenn Beck) down. He’s a fool and an obvious humiliation to Fox News, which takes a kook on the scale of Beck to do.

  • Eshvish

    It’s sad that the country has lent its trust to a bunch of pundits whose main agenda is to spit sophistry because everyone is too intellectually lazy to do his own research.

    Turn of your TV’s, turn off your radios, stop reading trash on the Internet.

  • Call_Me_Ishmael

    Those of us who are still sane should not take too much hope from this glimmer of sanity from the right. One only needs to scan the comments in response to Kristol’s condemnation of Beck and Lowry’s toe-in-the-water agreement to see that logic will not cure the right’s deep and chronic hysteria and fear of the world.

  • Alz

    Call_Me_Ishmael said:
    Those of us who are still sane should not take too much hope from this glimmer of sanity from the right. One only needs to scan the comments in response to Kristol’s condemnation of Beck and Lowry’s toe-in-the-water agreement to see that logic will not cure the right’s deep and chronic hysteria and fear of the world.

    There is no fear of the world. It’s trying to understand what is happening in the world. Is Beck crossing a line?

    I don’t know, but like in most situations, there is some truth in everything. Even if Beck is only a little right, we should all be paying attention and discussing the implications.

    To say that Glenn is hysterical just diverts attention from the issues at hand. Kristol should tell us which parts he might agree with and which parts he has a problem with.

    I’m sure Glenn would welcome honest debate, but that’s not what he have.

    (For the record, I think Glenn is on the right track. Follow Soros and his shadowy organizations.)

  • nice_thought

    Eshvish said:
    It’s sad that the country has lent its trust to a bunch of pundits whose main agenda is to spit sophistry because everyone is too intellectually lazy to do his own research.

    Turn of your TV’s, turn off your radios, stop reading trash on the Internet.

    Could u have said it somewhere else?

  • Leftist Asshat

    Haha Kristol is right!
    I hate his guts and never agree with him, but just this once I’m going to use him as a cudgel to beat Beck over the head with!

  • Garth

    Leftist Asshat said:
    Haha Kristol is right!
    I hate his guts and never agree with him, but just this once I’m going to use him as a cudgel to beat Beck over the head with!

    Asshat – you agree with Kristol except you never agree with him but for this one time and will use him as a “cudgel” (LMAO) to beat up Beck.

    Check please.

  • Call_Me_Ishmael

    Alz said:
    There is no fear of the world. It’s trying to understand what is happening in the world. Is Beck crossing a line?

    I don’t know, but like in most situations, there is some truth in everything. Even if Beck is only a little right, we should all be paying attention and discussing the implications.

    To say that Glenn is hysterical just diverts attention from the issues at hand. Kristol should tell us which parts he might agree with and which parts he has a problem with.

    I’m sure Glenn would welcome honest debate, but that’s not what he have.

    (For the record, I think Glenn is on the right track. Follow Soros and his shadowy organizations.)

    It’s all well and good to try to be fair minded, but arguing with conspiracy theorists is futile. Just try to convince a true believer that the light over the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem wasn’t a UFO, that Obama isn’t Muslim, that the Florida Supreme Court’s ruling in 2000 was perfectly legal.

    Sometimes a rich person giving money to a political cause (Soros, Koch Bros.) is just a rich person giving money to a political cause. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

  • BatBoy

    Garth said:
    That’s good because evidently some in the GOP have been putting pressure on Ailes and Mudrock to tone the embarrassment (Glenn Beck) down.

    If it makes you feel good to talk to us about your nightmares, then that is fine.

    Talking through your fears is the way you work things like this out.

    It is OK, you can release Glenn Beck from your head. Glenn won’t mind. We realize he is taking up lots of room up there…I think he has overtaken the “reasoning section” – Just release him – let him go!

  • JamesA1102

    “Who’s the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?”
    - Obi-Wan Kenobi

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Ted, er I mean Iris, er I mean Garth says:

    That’s good because evidently some in the GOP have been putting pressure on Ailes and Mudrock to tone the embarrassment (Glenn Beck) down. He’s a fool and an obvious humiliation to Fox News, which takes a kook on the scale of Beck to do.

    Well Beck hasn’t changed so I guess we know who has the power. You libs can keep whining all you want, but Beck ain’t goin anywhere!

  • Garth

    BatBoy said:
    If it makes you feel good to talk to us about your nightmares, then that is fine.

    Talking through your fears is the way you work things like this out.

    It is OK, you can release Glenn Beck from your head. Glenn won’t mind. We realize he is taking up lots of room up there…I think he has overtaken the “reasoning section” – Just release him – let him go!

    You’re just spouting whack job talking points. I’m sure you don’t even comprehend what you are saying but if you read carefully you’ll see that what I am saying it that people on the right are beginning to recognize what most others have known all along. Glenn Beck is an abject embarrassment. Is this something you can comprehend?

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Ted, er Iris, er Garth says:

    I’m sure you don’t even comprehend what you are saying but if you read carefully you’ll see that what I am saying it that people on the right are beginning to recognize what most others have known all along.

    Old timers like Bill don’t like anyone that hasn’t been part of the Washington scene since the begining of time. The truth makes alot of people uncomfortable, even if they tend to agree with you.

  • Pablo

    Alz said:
    To say that Glenn is hysterical just diverts attention from the issues at hand. Kristol should tell us which parts he might agree with and which parts he has a problem with.

    That usually how it works when you hope to rebut someone. You actually rebut them, and don’t just yell at them. Further, Beck does NOT side with Mubarak and he is not kind about America’s support of him. Kristol fails.

  • Garth

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Ted, er Iris, er Garth says:

    I’m sure you don’t even comprehend what you are saying but if you read carefully you’ll see that what I am saying it that people on the right are beginning to recognize what most others have known all along.

    Old timers like Bill don’t like anyone that hasn’t been part of the Washington scene since the begining of time. The truth makes alot of people uncomfortable, even if they tend to agree with you.

    You are just a Glenn Beck suck up Michelle UT. You are nearly as a big an embarrassment as he is, obviously. Nice try though.

  • Pablo

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Ted, er Iris, er Garth says:

    Let’s not forget Sarah P. and Elaine B. Some things never change, but this lunatic’s handle on Mediaite ain’t one of them.

  • murf

    They were for Beck ( Maddow) before they were against him..

    Kristol also said there was no such thing as Liberal media bias in the 90′s..

    Can you say …

    Johnny-come-lately ?

  • Pablo

    Leftist Asshat said:
    Haha Kristol is right!
    I hate his guts and never agree with him, but just this once I’m going to use him as a cudgel to beat Beck over the head with!

    Wasn’t he solely responsible for the illegal war in Iraq with his neocon takeover of America? PNAC, FTW!!!

  • Garth

    It’s funny to see the whack jobs come out and attack Kristol (a whack job) for attacking Beck (the king of whack jobs).

    It’s a proverbial Whack-Job-Athon.

  • Garth

    Pablo said:
    Let’s not forget Sarah P. and Elaine B. Some things never change, but this lunatic’s handle on Mediaite ain’t one of them.

    Maybe you two brainiacs should get a room. I’m sure you two buffoons would somehow manage to even bore the cockroaches.

  • Calvin

    Pablo said:
    That usually how it works when you hope to rebut someone. You actually rebut them, and don’t just yell at them. Further, Beck does NOT side with Mubarak and he is not kind about America’s support of him. Kristol fails.

    It’s not the first time that someone at the Weekly Standard has got it wrong when they wrote about Glenn.

  • BatBoy

    Garth said:
    You’re just spouting whack job talking points. I’m sure you don’t even comprehend what you are saying but if you read carefully you’ll see that what I am saying it that people on the right are beginning to recognize what most others have known all along. Glenn Beck is an abject embarrassment. Is this something you can comprehend?

    And here I tried to help you in your time of need.

    I don’t have talking points…you guys have talking point because it is so hard for you to stay on track!
    “I’m sure you don’t even comprehend what you are saying” – No, I comprehend what I am saying just fine…I was trying to help you in your time of need.

    “but if you read carefully you’ll see that what I am saying it that people on the right are beginning to recognize what most others have known all along” – Seriously Garth, you need to work on your sentence structure. Who is “Most People?” – I think that is people like you who let Glenn Camp out in your noggin! He sure doesn’t camp out in the minds of us Conservatives….just you folks!

    “Glenn Beck is an abject embarrassment.” – On the contrary, we conservatives are fine with Glenn Beck. He does not embarrass anyone I know.

    “Is this something you can comprehend?” – I think what I am starting to understand is that you are a little Cuckoo!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Royce-Earnest-Jr/515733979 Royce Earnest Jr

    I can hardly believe I agree with Kristol on something. Is he coming back to sanity or is Beck just that over the top crazy that everyone is finally understanding just how crazy he is?

  • Scott_in_MI

    This story proves that there is disagreement at Fox, unlike that far-leftwing loon station

  • Leftist Asshat

    Pablo said:
    Wasn’t he solely responsible for the illegal war in Iraq with his neocon takeover of America? PNAC, FTW!!!

    That’s right, I forgot all about that! What’s going on in Egypt must be part of the PNAC plot and the Elders of Zion!

  • Garth

    BatBoy said:
    And here I tried to help you in your time of need.

    I don’t have talking points…you guys have talking point because it is so hard for you to stay on track!
    “I’m sure you don’t even comprehend what you are saying” – No, I comprehend what I am saying just fine…I was trying to help you in your time of need.

    “but if you read carefully you’ll see that what I am saying it that people on the right are beginning to recognize what most others have known all along” – Seriously Garth, you need to work on your sentence structure. Who is “Most People?” – I think that is people like you who let Glenn Camp out in your noggin! He sure doesn’t camp out in the minds of us Conservatives….just you folks!

    “Glenn Beck is an abject embarrassment.” – On the contrary, we conservatives are fine with Glenn Beck. He does not embarrass anyone I know.

    “Is this something you can comprehend?” – I think what I am starting to understand is that you are a little Cuckoo!

    You’d be better off helping yourself. Any idiot that defends Glenn Beck needs all the help they can get, and you are clearly an idiot. By the way, you are no conservative. You’re a far, far right wing whack job. Do you comprehend that?

  • The Count

    AH AH AH AH AH !

  • Alz

    Royce Earnest Jr said:
    I can hardly believe I agree with Kristol on something. Is he coming back to sanity or is Beck just that over the top crazy that everyone is finally understanding just how crazy he is?

    Rest easy, Kristol is wrong.

  • Yoda002

    As 2012 approaches some of them have to distance themselves from Beck.

  • Greg

    “Today, (hat tip/Ben Smith), we have Bill Kristol sticking with the demonstrators and calling out free-range lunatic Glenn Beck, for his hilarious commie-muslim caliphate delusions. This is not unimportant. Kristol lies very close to the throbbing heart of the Fox News sensibility. And I’ve heard, from more than a couple of conservative sources, that prominent Republicans have approached Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes about the potential embarrassment that the paranoid-messianic rodeo clown may bring upon their brand. The speculation is that Beck is on thin ice. His ratings are dropping, too–which, in the end, is a good part of what this is all about. But I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw a mirror-Olbermann situation soon.”

    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/02/05/how-long-glenn-beck-how-long/#ixzz1D7DVuU8V

  • BatBoy

    Garth said:
    You’d be better off helping yourself. Any idiot that defends Glenn Beck needs all the help they can get, and you are clearly an idiot. By the way, you are no conservative. You’re a far, far right wing whack job. Do you comprehend that?

    “By the way, you are no conservative. “ Garth… you don’t know me! This video will explain it to you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-5LwRinkJ0&feature=related

    “You’re a far, far right wing whack job.” No Garth, I am just another of the many “Compassionate Conservatives!”

    I’m (That would be me) Just trying to help a guy in need! (That would be you!!!)

    Hey Garth – Glenn is calling you …you need to go to bed right now, so he can torment you again tonight! Sleep tight!

  • Greg
  • Gasket

    How about listening to the genius Sarah Palin instead?

    Sarah Palin said:

    It’s a difficult situation, this is that 3am White House phone call and it seems for many of us trying to get that information from our leader in the White House it it seems that that call went right to the answering machine. And nobody yet has, no body yet has explained to the American public what they know, and surely they know more than the rest of us know who it is who will be taking the place of Mubarak and …not real enthused about what it is that that’s being done on a national level and from D.C. in regards to understanding all the situation there in Egypt. And, in these areas that are so volatile right now because obviously it’s not just Egypt but the other countries too where we are seeing uprisings, we know that now more than ever, we need strength and sound mind there in the White House. We need to know what it is that America stands for so we know who it is that America will stand with. And we do not have all that information yet.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0211/Palin_criticizes_Obama_on_Egypt.html#comments

    LOL! What a stupid dumbass.

  • Pablo
  • Gasket

    Garth said:
    When Bill Kristol understands you’re an embarrassment, you’ve got problems. Lowry over at NRO says Kristol is correct in calling out Beck. Duh.

    LOL…and the genius CONservatives on here just yesterday were mocking Maddow for the SAME criticism.

  • Yoda002

    Greg said:
    “Today, (hat tip/Ben Smith), we have Bill Kristol sticking with the demonstrators and calling out free-range lunatic Glenn Beck, for his hilarious commie-muslim caliphate delusions. This is not unimportant. Kristol lies very close to the throbbing heart of the Fox News sensibility. And I’ve heard, from more than a couple of conservative sources, that prominent Republicans have approached Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes about the potential embarrassment that the paranoid-messianic rodeo clown may bring upon their brand. The speculation is that Beck is on thin ice. His ratings are dropping, too–which, in the end, is a good part of what this is all about. But I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw a mirror-Olbermann situation soon.”

    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/02/05/how-long-glenn-beck-how-long/#ixzz1D7DVuU8V

    You’re very good at foreshadowing events. I would say April 8 or 15 Thats about the time media/TV opens up the chute.

  • Greg

    Gasket said:
    How about listening to the genius Sarah Palin instead?

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0211/Palin_criticizes_Obama_on_Egypt.html#comments

    LOL! What a stupid dumbass.

    She rushes happily into waters to deep for her to manage… pockets loaded with stones destined for those swimming in the surf.

  • Grammie

    From Kristol’s essay:

    “Nor is it a sign of health when other American conservatives are so fearful of a popular awakening that they side with the dictator against the democrats. Rather, it’s a sign of fearfulness unworthy of Americans, of short-sightedness uncharacteristic of conservatives, of excuse-making for thuggery unworthy of the American conservative tradition.”

    Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought beck was one of the first to loudly condemn Mubarack.

    “As Krauthammer puts it, “All revolutions are blissful in the first days. The romance could be forgiven if this were Paris 1789. But it is not. In the intervening 222 years, we have learned how these things can end.””

    This is what I think Beck is concentrating on, the “how these things can end” scenario.

    You can color me completely pessimistic about the outcome of this. We’ll know soon enough, one way or the other.

  • Greg
  • Pablo

    Grammie said:
    Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought beck was one of the first to loudly condemn Mubarack.

    No, you are not wrong. Kristol, on the other hand…

  • Pablo

    Greg said:
    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/business-bureau-best-ratings-money-buy/t/story?id=12123843

    And that tells you what about Goldline, exactly? Howe that Santa Monica DA investigation going?

    ::crickets::

  • Greg

    Pablo said:
    And that tells you what about Goldline, exactly? Howe that Santa Monica DA investigation going?

    ::crickets::

    You have actually read the Weinerfacts site you so often reference? It includes 4 positions, the first being that Goldline is BBA approved. This claim is central to the defense of the organization. Clear to any with even glancing knowledge of the debate over Goldline.

  • Pablo

    Grammie said:
    You can color me completely pessimistic about the outcome of this.

    I’m not completely pessimistic. I’d feel a lot better if they had some plan beyond getting rid of Mubarak, which is already a fait accompli. Then what, is what I’d like to hear.

  • Pablo

    Greg said:
    You have actually read the Weinerfacts site you so often reference? It includes 4 positions, the first being that Goldline is BBA approved. This claim is central to the defense of the organization. Clear to any with even glancing knowledge of the debate over Goldline.

    And they are. You think you buy an A+ for $350? Great. I’ll sell you one. Call me. What’s central to the defense of the company is their 50 years in business. HOW’S THAT INVESTIGATION GOING? That’s central to the claims against them. What have you got?

    ::crickets::

  • wasjustsayin

    BatBoy said:
    “But Beck and those like him, to Kristol, have crossed a line”

    That is OK, sometimes we think Kristol crosses the line.

    Hey we are a pretty big tent and do allow people with different ideas.

    LOL! Yeah right, in your dreams.
    * * *

    From Roger Ailes:

    “For the first time in our 14 years, we’ve had people apparently shooting in the tent, from within the tent,” he told them.

    But the Fox chairman clarified that Beck’s opinions were not that of the network and were firmly within his rights as a commentator.

    *****”We prefer people in the tent not dumping on other people in the tent,” he added.*****

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2010/03/18/2010-03-18_roger_ailes_to_fox_news_glenn_beck_haters_stop_shooting_in_the_tent.html#ixzz1D8ytfP2Z

  • Pablo

    Greg said:
    This claim is central to the defense of the organization.

    You know what’s central to the claim against them? If you melt antique coins, they’re not worth what you paid for them anymore!!! ZOMG!!!!

  • BatBoy

    Greg said:
    Gold line scam explained… http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/GoldlineGlennBeck4.jpg

    Hey Greg, since you obviously did not invest in Gold when Glenn suggested you do so, you missed a huge opportunity.

    But, I have a deal for you and it is better than Glenn’s Gold. It is just ready to take off. Anthony Weiner has put a ton of money into it already…he has promised this will Not be investigated by Congress.

    Just reply to this message with you e-mail address, phone number and Mr. R Royal King, Esq. will be calling you so that you can get you going tonight. (I know…King is a little flakey…make that a lot flakey…but our legal counsel, A.R.M. Wood Esq. says this thing is on the uppity up.

    Don’t miss out on this like you did with Glenn’s Gold!

  • Greg

    Pablo said:
    And that tells you what about Goldline, exactly? Howe that Santa Monica DA investigation going?

    ::crickets::

    Glad you asked Pablo…

    http://articles.latimes.com/2010/dec/09/business/la-fi-gold-coin-dealer-20101209

  • Pablo
  • Grammie

    BatBoy said:
    Just reply to this message with you e-mail address, phone number and Mr. R Royal King, Esq. will be calling you so that you can get you going tonight. (I know…King is a little flakey…make that a lot flakey…but our legal counsel, A.R.M. Wood Esq. says this thing is on the uppity up.

    .
    Damn, that’s funny!!!!!

  • Greg

    BatBoy said:
    .
    But, I have a deal for you and it is better than Glenn’s Gold. It is just ready to take off. Anthony Weiner has put a ton of money into it already…he has promised this will Not be investigated by Congress.

    Just reply to this message with you e-mail address, phone number and Mr. R Royal King, Esq. will be calling you so that you can get you going tonight. (I know…King is a little flakey…make that a lot flakey…but our legal counsel, A.R.M. Wood Esq. says this thing is on the uppity up.

    Don’t miss out on this like you did with Glenn’s Gold!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhndMRe01mk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  • Pablo

    Greg said:
    Glad you asked Pablo…

    http://articles.latimes.com/2010/dec/09/business/la-fi-gold-coin-dealer-20101209

    I hate to break this to you, Greg. But Superior Gold is not Goldline. Your point?

  • ChrisNH

    What effect will the turmoil in Egypt have on the U.S.? It really is unclear. But Leftist media hacks in this country are making it a huge deal for one simple reason: they need misdirection and ‘Something Else To Call News’ as soon as a Federal judge kicked Obama IN THE ASS and told him what to do with his ‘signature’ legislation. Of COURSE the media needs something ELSE to have you focus on.

  • Greg

    Pablo said:
    I hate to break this to you, Greg. But Superior Gold is not Goldline. Your point?

    The same fate awaits Pablo.

    “City Hall attorneys and the L.A. County District Attorney’s office, though, have jointly sued another Santa Monica-based gold company, Superior Gold Group — which also happens to be a Glenn Beck advertiser. Last month, a judge froze Superior Gold’s assets and ordered that the company be placed in a receivership.”

    http://www.smdp.com/Articles-c-2011-01-25-71190.113116-Company-targeted-in-probe-sponsors-chamber-event.html

  • Greg

    ChrisNH said:
    What effect will the turmoil in Egypt have on the U.S.? It really is unclear. But Leftist media hacks in this country are making it a huge deal for one simple reason: they need misdirection and ‘Something Else To Call News’ as soon as a Federal judge kicked Obama IN THE ASS and told him what to do with his ’signature’ legislation. Of COURSE the media needs something ELSE to have you focus on.

    Only “leftist media hacks” are making it a big deal? Do you watch Glenn Beck?

    A “federal judge kicked Obama IN THE ASS”? You know other courts have confirmed the law? Including more recently? “The Obama administration won a victory Thursday in the winding legal debate surrounding the president’s signature health care law, as a federal judge in Mississippi threw out a suit challenging the constitutionality of the bill.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/03/obama-health-care-legal-victory_n_818428.html

  • Pablo

    Greg said:
    The same fate awaits Pablo.

    “City Hall attorneys and the L.A. County District Attorney’s office, though, have jointly sued another Santa Monica-based gold company, Superior Gold Group — which also happens to be a Glenn Beck advertiser. Last month, a judge froze Superior Gold’s assets and ordered that the company be placed in a receivership.”

    http://www.smdp.com/Articles-c-2011-01-25-71190.113116-Company-targeted-in-probe-sponsors-chamber-event.html

    City Hall attorneys and the L.A. County District Attorney’s office, though, have jointly sued another Santa Monica-based gold company, Superior Gold Group — which also happens to be a Glenn Beck advertiser.

    But they haven’t sued Goldline. So how’s that investigation going, Greg? BTW, I have never heard a Glenn Beck Superior Gold ad. In fact, I’ve never heard him do an ad for any gold dealer but Goldline. Got a link, Greg?

    ::crickets::

  • tws258

    Greg said:
    The same fate awaits Pablo.

    From the article you provided

    ++++++++
    “At City Hall, Radinsky declined to comment on Goldline’s participation in Thursday’s event or on the ongoing investigation, which has not resulted in legal action against the company.”
    ++++++++++++++++

    So you’re hanging your hat on maybe . Good for you .

  • http://markthuesen.blogspot.com/ Mark Thuesen

    give Glenn Beck a break.

  • Greg

    Pablo said:
    But they haven’t sued Goldline. So how’s that investigation going, Greg? BTW, I have never heard a Glenn Beck Superior Gold ad. In fact, I’ve never heard him do an ad for any gold dealer but Goldline. Got a link, Greg?

    ::crickets::

    Does their own website work?

    “On his show today, Beck told his audience that they should buy gold to protect themselves in the event of a U.S. economic collapse. Minutes later, that same audience was treated to a commercial for Superior Gold Group, featuring a “gold investor and a Superior Gold client” who cited “our government spending trillions of dollars and counting” and “a debt that will burden our children and grandchildren for years to come” as reasons to buy their product. I wonder how many of Beck’s viewers called their hotline on the spot?”

    http://www.gold101.com/blog/index.php/superior-gold-shows-loyalty-to-beck-and-fox/

    Enjoy!

  • Greg

    tws258 said:
    From the article you provided

    ++++++++
    “At City Hall, Radinsky declined to comment on Goldline’s participation in Thursday’s event or on the ongoing investigation, which has not resulted in legal action against the company.”
    ++++++++++++++++

    So you’re hanging your hat on maybe . Good for you .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5jNnDMfxA&feature=related

  • Call_Me_Ishmael

    Greg said:
    Does their own website work?

    “On his show today, Beck told his audience that they should buy gold to protect themselves in the event of a U.S. economic collapse. Minutes later, that same audience was treated to a commercial for Superior Gold Group, featuring a “gold investor and a Superior Gold client” who cited “our government spending trillions of dollars and counting” and “a debt that will burden our children and grandchildren for years to come” as reasons to buy their product. I wonder how many of Beck’s viewers called their hotline on the spot?”

    http://www.gold101.com/blog/index.php/superior-gold-shows-loyalty-to-beck-and-fox/

    Enjoy!

    The problem is, the folks you are debating here have the real dope from Glenn himself and can crowdsource:

    You can subscriber to Glenn Beck’s Insider Subscription for:
    1 month for $6.95*
    6 months for $29.95 (4.99/month, a savings of 28%)*
    12 months for $54.95 (4.58/month, a savings of 34%)*

    *All Insider subscriptions are setup for auto renewal.

    https://members.premiereinteractive.com/ows-img/glennbeck/pages/28585/41405.htm
    ===
    You can subscribe to Glenn Beck’s Insider Extreme for:
    1 month for $9.95*
    6 months for $44.95 (7.49/month, a savings of 25%)*
    12 months for $74.95 (6.26/month, a savings of 37%)*

    *All Insider Extreme subscriptions are setup for auto renewal.
    https://members.premiereinteractive.com/ows-img/glennbeck/pages/28585/127640.htm

    Who needs Goldline or Superior with all these marks?

  • Paleoconservatarian

    So saith the neo-cons in their on-going underground campaign to keep the reigns of the Republican party in their hands and away from any libertarian that might supplant their influence.

  • CosmosDan

    BatBoy said:
    Hey we are a pretty big tent and do allow people with different ideas.

    Yeah,…I noticed that right away. That’s really quite funny

  • Greg

    Call_Me_Ishmael said:
    The problem is, the folks you are debating here have the real dope from Glenn himself and can crowdsource:

    You can subscriber to Glenn Beck’s Insider Subscription for:
    1 month for $6.95*
    6 months for $29.95 (4.99/month, a savings of 28%)*
    12 months for $54.95 (4.58/month, a savings of 34%)*

    *All Insider subscriptions are setup for auto renewal.

    https://members.premiereinteractive.com/ows-img/glennbeck/pages/28585/41405.htm
    ===
    You can subscribe to Glenn Beck’s Insider Extreme for:
    1 month for $9.95*
    6 months for $44.95 (7.49/month, a savings of 25%)*
    12 months for $74.95 (6.26/month, a savings of 37%)*

    *All Insider Extreme subscriptions are setup for auto renewal.
    https://members.premiereinteractive.com/ows-img/glennbeck/pages/28585/127640.htm

    Who needs Goldline or Superior with all these marks?

    “OK, here’s what we’ve got: The Rand Corporation…in conjunction with the saucer people…under the supervision of the reverse vampires…are forcing our parents to go to bed early in a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner. We’re through the looking glass, here, people.”
    -Milhouse Van Houton

    And for the privilege of access to such madness, auto renewal access to the rubes debit accounts… mostly kept afloat by Social Security dollars no less.

  • Pablo

    Greg said:
    Does their own website work?

    “On his show today, Beck told his audience that they should buy gold to protect themselves in the event of a U.S. economic collapse. Minutes later, that same audience was treated to a commercial for Superior Gold Group, featuring a “gold investor and a Superior Gold client” who cited “our government spending trillions of dollars and counting” and “a debt that will burden our children and grandchildren for years to come” as reasons to buy their product. I wonder how many of Beck’s viewers called their hotline on the spot?”

    http://www.gold101.com/blog/index.php/superior-gold-shows-loyalty-to-beck-and-fox/

    Enjoy!

    Where? And who sold that ad? Goldline advertises on CNN as well. Does that mean Wolf Blitzer is pushing Goldline?

  • Pablo

    Greg said:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5jNnDMfxA&feature=related

    So, you’ve got nothing, then. Good to know.

  • Greg

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    So saith the neo-cons in their on-going underground campaign to keep the reigns of the Republican party in their hands and away from any libertarian that might supplant their influence.

    Underground= Publicly sourced statement to a journalist?
    Libertarian= Anti-government conspiracy?

  • BatBoy

    Goldline advertises here also….
    Newsweek
    Los Angeles Times
    The Denver Post
    New York Times
    CNBC
    The Christian Science Monitor

  • Pablo

    Greg said:
    “On his show today, Beck told his audience that they should buy gold to protect themselves in the event of a U.S. economic collapse.

    That’s just nuts! Better to buy Treasury bonds.

  • Call_Me_Ishmael

    Has the word “Goldline” passed Blitzer’s lips other than in a news report?

    Has the word Goldline” passed Beck’s lips in a promotional spot?

    Take out your #2 pencil and answer truthfully. Mentors are watching.

  • Pablo

    BatBoy said:
    Goldline advertises here also….
    Newsweek
    Los Angeles Times
    The Denver Post
    New York Times
    CNBC
    The Christian Science Monitor

    WHY DO THEY HATE AMERICA!!!???

  • Greg

    Pablo said:
    BTW, I have never heard a Glenn Beck Superior Gold ad. In fact, I’ve never heard him do an ad for any gold dealer but Goldline. Got a link, Greg?

    “If you follow our regular County Fair post documenting the companies running ads on Beck’s program, you know that at least four such firms run ads on Beck’s show: Superior Gold Group, Goldline International, Rosland Capital, and Merit Financial. Rosland and Goldline in particular run ads on virtually every edition of the program.”

    http://www.gold101.com/blog/index.php/superior-gold-shows-loyalty-to-beck-and-fox/

  • Ninja

    Wait…what??? I thought Fox only had hard core right wing people. This article confuses most lefties. They proclaim that FNC is only a RW channel, but this article shows some dissent….what gives? I just tuned in to MSNBC to get my talking points but all I found was a documentary about prison instead of my union loving master the torch Eddie….funny thing is that the prisoners made more sense.

    Really must suck to be a lefty when your base cannot support one single network…Air America – NOPE. MSNBC – About to die. What is next? Face it, the only people that are libs do not educate themselves until they are given a pack of camel lights to vote. Absolutely pathetic.

  • Pablo

    Call_Me_Ishmael said:
    Has the word “Goldline” passed Blitzer’s lips other than in a news report?

    We’re talking about Superior Gold. Try to keep up, won’t you?

  • Greg

    Pablo said:
    WHY DO THEY HATE AMERICA!!!???

    To refresh your memory Pablo…

    http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/GoldlineGlennBeck4.jpg

  • Pablo

    But wehile we’re here, I’ll take your point. Have the words Superior Gold passed Glenn Beck’s lips? Maybe when he was shitting on the bogus connection of the two companies via the Santa Monica DA. Not otherwise. Thanks, Ishmael!

  • Call_Me_Ishmael

    Pablo said:
    We’re talking about Superior Gold. Try to keep up, won’t you?

    Notice that when the question is uncomfortable for them, they either deflect or ignore.

    How grade school of you Pablo.

  • Ninja

    It must really hurt the libs that gold has gone from around $300 per ounce to over $1,500 per ounce. Damn that has gotta hurt…talk about egg on your face. At least we all made a lot of money on it. Libs…just keep investing your money in Air American stock, it will make a comeback I’m sure.

  • Pablo

    Greg said:
    To refresh your memory Pablo…

    http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/GoldlineGlennBeck4.jpg

    So, I must return the favor. Tell you what, Greg. You don’t waste my time, I won’t waste yours. How that investigation going?

  • Ninja

    Where is Anthony Weiner when we need him? I only made 2,000% on my gold investment.

  • Greg

    Ninja said:
    Wait…what??? I thought Fox only had hard core right wing people. This article confuses most lefties. They proclaim that FNC is only a RW channel, but this article shows some dissent….what gives? I just tuned in to MSNBC to get my talking points but all I found was a documentary about prison instead of my union loving master the torch Eddie….funny thing is that the prisoners made more sense.

    Really must suck to be a lefty when your base cannot support one single network…Air America – NOPE. MSNBC – About to die. What is next? Face it, the only people that are libs do not educate themselves until they are given a pack of camel lights to vote. Absolutely pathetic.

    Odd statement considering that the educated, well to do urbanite supported Obama in great numbers while the rural poor with minimal formal intellectual training did not…. but don’t let reality get in the way of your heartfelt disgust.

  • Pablo

    Call_Me_Ishmael said:
    Notice that when the question is uncomfortable for them, they either deflect or ignore.

    How grade school of you Pablo.

    No, when the question completely misses the point, I point that out. It isn’t my fault you’re not capable of following along. Follow the conversation before jumping into it. That’s all I ask.

  • Pablo

    Greg said:
    Odd statement considering that the educated, well to do urbanite supported Obama in great numbers while the rural poor with minimal formal intellectual training did not…. but don’t let reality get in the way of your heartfelt disgust.

    And how did Obama do in the ghetto?

  • tws258

    Pablo said:
    So, I must return the favor. Tell you what, Greg. You don’t waste my time, I won’t waste yours. How that investigation going?

    LOL , eject now Pablo .

    Now you’ll get a link to a cartoon for a response .

  • Greg

    Ninja said:
    Where is Anthony Weiner when we need him? I only made 2,000% on my gold investment.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhrfhjLd9e4

  • Pablo

    Greg said:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhrfhjLd9e4

    “I’ve got absolutely nothing. Best to ignore me.”

    Nice job, Greg.

  • tws258

    Greg said:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhrfhjLd9e4

    You don’t disappoint .

  • Call_Me_Ishmael

    No, it simply makes a point you are unprepared or, more likely, unwilling to deal with. If you are incapable of dealing with the nuances of a discussion, then perhaps you should bow out. It wastes less of our time.

  • Pablo

    We really should be talking about Egypt.

  • Greg

    Pablo said:
    And how did Obama do in the ghetto?

    Not my point Pablo… but as you have introduced it, the “ghetto” is in better shape than in the recent past… but attending to our worst urban neighborhoods in a concentrated and protracted manner has not been a policy priority… benefits have been tangental.

  • Pablo

    Call_Me_Ishmael said:
    No, it simply makes a point you are unprepared or, more likely, unwilling to deal with. If you are incapable of dealing with the nuances of a discussion, then perhaps you should bow out. It wastes less of our time.

    You have no such point. I have not failed to deal with anything offered. Perhaps you should bow out. Or catch up. One of the two.

  • Call_Me_Ishmael

    Pablo said:
    “I’ve got absolutely nothing. Best to ignore me.”

    Declare victory, then retreat.

  • Greg

    tws258 said:
    You don’t disappoint .

    Of course not.

  • Pablo

    Greg said:
    Not my point Pablo… but as you have introduced it, the “ghetto” is in better shape than in the recent past

    That wasn’t my question. How did Obama do in the ghetto?

  • Pablo

    Call_Me_Ishmael said:
    Declare victory, then retreat.

    Sling bullshit. Declare victory! F*ck you.

  • tws258

    Greg said:
    Of course not.

    You’ve obviously studied at Gary Larson’s ” Midvale School for the Gifted “

  • Call_Me_Ishmael

    Pablo said:
    F*ck you.

    Oh Pablo. You make it so easy.

  • Pablo

    tws258 said:
    Now you’ll get a link to a cartoon for a response .

    Dude, you are prescient. Do you have 5 + 1 numbers under 70 you really like?

    The Simpsons! OMG!

  • Pablo

    Call_Me_Ishmael said:
    Oh Pablo. You make it so easy.

    For you to go f*ck yourself? You don’t need me to do that.

  • ramjet

    If Kristol wants to use the Declaration of Independence and the principles displayed by the Founders as a comparison to the Egyptian uprising to bludgeon Beck, he should probably read the Declaration in its entirety and study the writings of the Founders.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Greg said:
    Underground= Publicly sourced statement to a journalist?
    Libertarian= Anti-government conspiracy?

    Reading comprehension 101

    “on-going underground campaign” refers to a series of events, statements and posturing, inclusive but not limited to this one article, over a prolonged period of time and outside of the framework of the electoral process.

    “Libertarian” refers to the collective ideologies of those who hold free market economic ideas counter to that of the prevalent Keynesian influence, the most recent prominent approximation of which was best represented by the presidency of Ronald Reagan.

    Need I get more detailed or can I stop now?

  • Greg

    Pablo said:
    That wasn’t my question. How did Obama do in the ghetto?

    Quit reckless with your attention. Perhaps we should get real funky and start writing in half sentences… get real abstract with it and spit some scat jazz?

    Obama was not elected as Chicago alderman but as Federal executive. He has cut taxes for the middle class, extended health support, extended minority access to capital, credit card bill of rights, extended medicaid, extended support for pell grants, and his policies are creating private sector jobs. All of these help people in what you affectionately term the “ghetto”.

  • Alz
  • George C

    Greg said:
    get real abstract with it and spit some scat jazz?

    If you really like jazz might I suggest ,

    http://www.armwood.com/

    You might have more in common than you think .

  • Pablo

    Greg said:
    Quit reckless with your attention.

    As soon as someone explains that sentence to me, I’ll try my best, Greg. Meanwhile, could you answer my question?

  • Pablo
  • Greg

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    “on-going underground campaign” refers to a series of events, statements and posturing, inclusive but not limited to this one article, over a prolonged period of time and outside of the framework of the electoral process.

    My comprehension is impeached because I did not infer a wide web of “events, statements and posturing, inclusive but not limited to this one article”?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQNbpaQv5dE

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    “Libertarian” refers to the collective ideologies of those who hold free market economic ideas counter to that of the prevalent Keynesian influence, the most recent prominent approximation of which was best represented by the presidency of Ronald Reagan.

    http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/02/barack-obama-ronald-reagan-budget-taxes-opinions-contributors-rob-shapiro.html

  • Pablo

    Greg said:
    My comprehension is impeached because

    …you’re incoherent.

  • Ninja

    Greg said:
    Odd statement considering that the educated, well to do urbanite supported Obama in great numbers while the rural poor with minimal formal intellectual training did not…. but don’t let reality get in the way of your heartfelt disgust.

    Ha. Educated? Take a look at the real stats. They are not to hard to find about who the people with advanced degreees voted for.

    Advanced degrees in Engineering was 87.4% for McCain. Amazing right?

  • Greg
  • Gasket

    Ninja said:
    Ha. Educated? Take a look at the real stats. They are not to hard to find about who the people with advanced degreees voted for.

    Advanced degrees in Engineering was 87.4% for McCain. Amazing right?

    Evidence? Link to it. Graduates and post-graduates overwhelmingly voted for Obama over McCain.

  • Greg

    Ninja said:
    Ha. Educated? Take a look at the real stats. They are not to hard to find about who the people with advanced degreees voted for.

    Advanced degrees in Engineering was 87.4% for McCain. Amazing right?

    Nice data set here…

    http://www.pollster.com/blogs/demographic_groups_and_votes_2.php?nr=1

  • Greg

    Pablo said:
    …you’re incoherent.

    … perhaps the nicest thing a reactionary fringe separatist has called me in many weeks.

  • Pablo

    Greg said:
    … perhaps the nicest thing a reactionary fringe separatist has called me in many weeks.

    Glad to hear it. Are you going to answer my question, Greg?

  • Pablo

    BTW, separatist? WTF are you smoking, homeboy?

  • Greg

    Pablo said:
    BTW, separatist? WTF are you smoking, homeboy?

    No shame in being a dedicated confederate Pablo but nullification results in bifurcation. You are hounding me to reference data that resides amongst our collective set of common knowledge, most likely to trigger a programmed sophistic response, thereby demonstrating your superior coherence and the sweet release of dopamine.

  • Pablo

    Greg, go to bed. Really. It’s the right thing to do. Maybe tomorrow you can bring some heat. Won’t that be nice?

  • the real john t

    Palbo must have one exciting life. He’s been on this site all day and all night. Damn, what a life.

  • Greg

    the real john t said:
    Palbo must have one exciting life. He’s been on this site all day and all night. Damn, what a life.

    If not Pablo then whom? Someone must patrol these boards and push adults from wakefulness to slumber in an ever consuming search for proper “heat”.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    And someone must be ready to throw link after link of discredited and slanderous allegations at the wall of the internet like so much pasta at the slightest hint of a credible attack on Beck, evidently.

  • Greg

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    And someone must be ready to throw link after link of discredited and slanderous allegations at the wall of the internet like so much pasta at the slightest hint of a credible attack on Beck, evidently.

    I find you persuasive and insightful. How do I subscribe to your newsletter?

  • grafxmail7

    You Chicken Little Beck followers are hilarious.

    Your Dear Leader got called out by Bill Kristol and you don’t want to talk about it.

    You Clowns are a laughing stock!

  • Pablo

    the real john t said:
    Palbo must have one exciting life. He’s been on this site all day and all night. Damn, what a life.

    Really? I haven’t been here all day, as I haven’t been home until about 7 PM or so. Nice to know you aspire to watch me though, john. What are you doing with your life these days, john?

  • the real john t

    grafxmail7 said:
    Your Dear Leader got called out by Bill Kristol and you don’t want to talk about it.

    Yeah, it’s pretty sad when Beck gets called out by a neocon. That should tell the RWers something.

  • Pablo

    grafxmail7 said:
    You Chicken Little Beck followers are hilarious.

    Your Dear Leader got called out by Bill Kristol and you don’t want to talk about it.

    You Clowns are a laughing stock!

    Pwned! 128 comments not of talking about it. Moron.

    What’s it like being that dense?

  • Pablo

    the real john t said:
    Yeah, it’s pretty sad when Beck gets called out by a neocon. That should tell the RWers something.

    That Bill Kristol knows everything! PNAC, FTW!!!!

    So, y’all wanna bomb Iran, or what?

  • the real john t

    Pablo said:
    Really? I haven’t been here all day, as I haven’t been home until about 7 PM or so. Nice to know you aspire to watch me though, john. What are you doing with your life these days, john?

    That’s kind of funny, I was looking through the threads and the first comment I saw from you was a little after 8:00am this morning.

  • tws258

    the real john t said:
    That’s kind of funny, I was looking through the threads and the first comment I saw from you was a little after 8:00am this morning.

    And you’ll be here until 4:00am like always .

  • Pablo

    the real john t said:
    That’s kind of funny, I was looking through the threads and the first comment I saw from you was a little after 8:00am this morning.

    Yeah, and then you didn’t see me all day. A good 8 hours, I was not here. Do you keep a notebook on my presence, john? What does that tell us about you?

  • Greg

    Pablo said:
    That Bill Kristol knows everything! PNAC, FTW!!!!

    So, y’all wanna bomb Iran, or what?

    Yes, liberals now want to bomb Iran because Bill Kristol thinks Beck’s oddball conspiracy mongering is detrimental and Kristol has advocated using nuclear weapons. A + 3= P except when it’s B. Great contribution Pablo.

  • the real john t

    tws258 said:
    And you’ll be here until 4:00am like always .

    Yeah, that’s why I come on here late, I figure the little immature kids like you will have to go to bed.

  • tws258

    the real john t said:
    Yeah, that’s why I come on here late, I figure the little immature kids like you will have to go to bed.

    I just figured your marriage was on the rocks . I mean you’re here and she’s ……..well , not here .

  • the real john t

    Pablo said:
    Do you keep a notebook on my presence, john?

    No I come on and look through the threads to see what people are talking about, and you’ve been on here all day.

  • Gasket

    I’m still waiting for that evidence from Ninja. Got plenty of thumbs down but nobody with balls apparently to support him by corroborating his assertion.

  • the real john t

    tws258 said:
    I just figured your marriage was on the rocks .

    My marriage is doing just fine. But what’s that say about yours, that you’re here and she is well…..not.

  • tws258

    the real john t said:
    My marriage is doing just fine. But what’s that say about yours, that you’re here and she is well…..not.

    So you’ve reached the stage of seperate beds so soon , shame .

  • the real john t

    tws258 said:
    So you’ve reached the stage of seperate beds so soon , shame .

    You’re a silly little infant.

  • tws258

    the real john t said:
    You’re a silly little infant.

    LMAO !

  • the real john t

    Greg said:
    Great contribution Pablo.

    I was wondering how Pablo came up with that conclusion.

  • WCinWI

    I haven’t read the comments to this site nor the article itself.

    I just ask all of you to head to the DKos site and check out their “lovely” photo of Reagan….and then tell me again who’s really the bearer of hate.

  • WCinWI

    WCinWI said:
    I haven’t read the comments to this site nor the article itself.

    I just ask all of you to head to the DKos site and check out their “lovely” photo of Reagan….and then tell me again who’s really the bearer of hate.

    *correction: story/post….not site

  • Grammie

    WCinWI said:
    I just ask all of you to head to the DKos site and check out their “lovely” photo of Reagan….and then tell me again who’s really the bearer of hate.

    .That is truly sick and could only come from hate filled sick mind.

  • grafxmail7

    Pablo said:
    Pwned! 128 comments not of talking about it. Moron.

    What’s it like being that dense?

    Did you just up and down and high five yourself? You’re usually at least witty with your Chicken Little Beck defending.

    Your Dear Leader was just Pwned by David Kristol and you’re babbling about goldline and defending yourself about how much time you’re on here. You’re usually defending your boy Chicken Little Beck!

    You’re a rodeo clown in training and your so amusing!

  • WCinWI

    grafxmail7 said:
    Did you just up and down and high five yourself? You’re usually at least witty with your Chicken Little Beck defending.

    Your Dear Leader was just Pwned by David Kristol and you’re babbling about goldline and defending yourself about how much time you’re on here. You’re usually defending your boy Chicken Little Beck!

    You’re a rodeo clown in training and your so amusing!

    1) It’s you’re…not your.
    2) It’s William Kristol…not David.
    3) Don’t make fun of folks when you have little to stand on yourself.

  • the real john t

    WCinWI said:
    It’s you’re…not your.

    Are you the official grammar police on here? Make sure you have everything correct in your own comments.

  • WCinWI

    the real john t said:
    Are you the official grammar police on here? Make sure you have everything correct in your own comments.

    No, but I’m also not calling tons of people stupid. If you’re going to call someone stupid and then spell something wrong, that’s not exactly a well-thought out idea.

  • grafxmail7

    WCinWI said:
    1) It’s you’re…not your.
    2) It’s William Kristol…not David.
    3) Don’t make fun of folks when you have little to stand on yourself.

    HAHA! Like I’m worried about a wrong name or my grammar!

    I’m here to make fun to make fun of Chicken Little Beck followers and believers. It’s not like they pay attention to facts or details anyway!

    You guys are pretty silent on what Billy Boy said against your Dear Leader!

    Clowns! HAHA!

  • the real john t

    What’s funny about it is all these Beckerheads on here keep screaming that MSNBC is the ones that bash Beck. Bill Kristol was on Fox “news”.

  • Firstrate

    It’s about time someone credible on the right started to take Beck down a few pegs. Rush should be next, and Hannity and all the extremists. Let’s take one off the Left (KO) and one off the Right and alternate until the extremists are still. Let’s learn to disagree intelligently and with moderation.

  • grafxmail7

    WCinWI said:
    No, but I’m also not calling tons of people stupid. If you’re going to call someone stupid and then spell something wrong, that’s not exactly a well-thought out idea.

    Whoever defends Chicken Little Beck is STUPID!
    That’s the point here.
    Even Billy Kristol is with me on this point.
    Who cares if I spell something wrong. That doesn’t make my point any less valid. It just makes you more petty.

    Where the F**k are all the Chicken Little Beck defenders now when the biggest neocon from FOX “news” is calling him out on HIS stupidity.

    Bill Kristol said this about Chicken Little Beck:

    “Nor is it a sign of health when other American conservatives are so fearful of a popular awakening that they side with the dictator against the democrats. Rather, it’s a sign of fearfulness unworthy of Americans, of short-sightedness uncharacteristic of conservatives, of excuse-making for thuggery unworthy of the American conservative tradition.”

    Where are you now Chicken Little Beck wanna-be rodeo clowns? Defend your Dear Leader you cowards!

  • Annie Oakley

    First, if you believe that Bill Kristol is always right, then you must believe that Sarah Palin is an outstanding candidate for political office. Kristol was the first person on television who mentioned her name as a possible McCain running mate. He had met her on a trip (cruise, I think) to Alaska and was extremely complimentary of her abilities and conservative credentials.

    Secondly, I have never previously noticed Kristol speaking out against repressive regimes which are allies of the United States. Perhaps he has done so and I have missed it. Beck is speaking out about the U.S. backing regimes that are repressive and corrupt. He seems to believe that if you lie down with dogs, don’t be surprised if you wake up with fleas. With the only figurehead of the current demonstrations being Al Baradei, the man who helped enable Iran’s lack of transparency regarding oversight of their nuclear program, one cannot help being suspicious of the ultimate outcome of the chaos in Egypt. If there is a vacuum in leadership, can Kristol or anyone else guarantee that “DEMOCRACY” will ensue? I think not. It took months before the Ayatollah Kohmeni returned to Iran to enforce the theocracy- a regime even more oppressive than the Shah. Even Henry Kissinger has spoken out and suggested that this administration needs to SHUT UP, since its public statements are doing nothing more than inflaming the situation and showing our incompetence.

    “Not every conspiracy is a theory.” Look at the destabilization that is happening around the world and see how often radical Islam is part of the mix. As I recall, the largest number of conversions to Islam in the U.S. is among the prison population. Also, wasn’t it Elena Kagan who would not give a straight answer to whether or not Sharia Law could be considered in U.S. courtrooms? I find that disturbing in an officer of the court.

    Just saying…

  • BatBoy

    Sarah nails it one more time telling us that the Obama’s‘3 A.M.‘call on Egytpt came and the phone call went to ’Answering Machine’

    Both Sarah and Hillary both have this “Little Man who Plays President” nailed.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/palin-blasts-obama-on-egypt-3-a-m-phone-call-went-to-answering-machine/

  • Joe Astroturf

    He’s not a conservative anymore. Glenn knows what he’s talking about.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/13/obamas-dinner-with-conser_n_157701.html
    Barack Obama took the next big step in his Republican charm offensive on Tuesday night, when he dined with several of the nation’s most prominent conservative pundits. The president-elect arrived at the Chevy Chase, Md., home of syndicated columnist George Will shortly after 6:30 p.m., according to a press pool report. Greeting him at the residence were other luminaries of the conservative commentariat, including the Weekly Standard’s William Kristol, New York Times columnist David Brooks, and Charles Krauthammer of the Washington Post

    Please Check out song called teapartiers I can’t hear you at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJfboOindCo

    Here’s a verse

    Doctors are retiring earlier but we’re getting 17000 new IRS
    This is how Obama creates health care jobs I guess
    For 234 years this country’s been God’s blessing.
    Now he’s following Cloward and Piven’s to bankrupt the country I’m guessing
    If Obamacare gives Grandma and Grandpa a scare
    Think how when their rationed and die earlier we’ll save on healthcare

    Hey guys if you fought at Iwo or the Chosen
    when they stop giving your wife her meds and her last breath comes over her face
    you’ll find comfort knowing Nancy’d gladly take her place.

  • Pablo

    grafxmail7 said:
    Did you just up and down and high five yourself? You’re usually at least witty with your Chicken Little Beck defending.

    No, I just up and smacked you in the mouth with the facts.

    Your Dear Leader was just Pwned by David Kristol and you’re babbling about goldline and defending yourself about how much time you’re on here. You’re usually defending your boy Chicken Little Beck!

    You have to watch out for that David Kristol, don’t you? You are such an idiot, it’s really hard not to laugh.

  • Pablo

    grafxmail7 said:
    Whoever defends Chicken Little Beck is STUPID!
    That’s the point here.
    Even Billy Kristol is with me on this point.
    Who cares if I spell something wrong. That doesn’t make my point any less valid. It just makes you more petty.

    Where the F**k are all the Chicken Little Beck defenders now when the biggest neocon from FOX “news” is calling him out on HIS stupidity.

    Bill Kristol said this about Chicken Little Beck:

    “Nor is it a sign of health when other American conservatives are so fearful of a popular awakening that they side with the dictator against the democrats. Rather, it’s a sign of fearfulness unworthy of Americans, of short-sightedness uncharacteristic of conservatives, of excuse-making for thuggery unworthy of the American conservative tradition.”

    Where are you now Chicken Little Beck wanna-be rodeo clowns? Defend your Dear Leader you cowards!

    Read the f*cking thread, moron. God, you’re stupid. World class stupid.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    CNN & MSNBC are treating it as a “breakthrough” that the Muslim Brotherhood has said nice things about democracy.
    In other words, they are RUNNING COVER for the Muslim Brotherhood to get a foothold in Egyptian government.

    Remember that Obama LIED about whatever he had to, then attmpted the TAKEOVER COUP!

  • ImJustThatDamnGood

    Israel is not in danger, Egypt is a secular country. The Muslim Brotherhood is too conservative for Egypt. I know how you conservatives love to invade countries who are no threat to you or your allies. Maybe you guys can use your WMDs excuse again. One problem, Obama will not go to war, he only cleans up the mess others left behind.

  • Alz

    A good American Thinker article on what is happening.

    Beck is right and Kristol is wrong:

    “Obama Well Knows What Chaos He Has Unleashed”
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/obama_well_knows_what_chaos_he.html

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    ImJustThatDamnGood said:
    Israel is not in danger, Egypt is a secular country. The Muslim Brotherhood is too conservative for Egypt. I know how you conservatives love to invade countries who are no threat to you or your allies. Maybe you guys can use your WMDs excuse again. One problem, Obama will not go to war, he only cleans up the mess others left behind.

    There’d be no protestors in Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan or Lebanon, without The Bush Doctrine, and first bringing democracy to Iraq.
    Don’t you remember, this is EXACTLY what Bush said would happen!!!

    Obama cleans up what mess? The 3-Trillion more in debt for doled to his supporters through do-nothing budgets, stimulus & over-regulation;
    …or the DRONES, with his name on them for 2 years, maiming & killing innocent Afghans?

    You remember the Drones? Democrats ripped Bush apart for there use, but now when it’s Obama, sshhhhh, you can hear the SILENCE!

    That STENCH your smelling is more Liberal HYPOCRISY!!

  • BatBoy

    ImJustThatDamnGood said:
    Israel is not in danger

    You are not that damn good. Try getting some news from something other that the Obama cheerleading Networks – MSNBC, NBC, CNN, CBS, ABC & NRP

    You have displayed to us that you are not aware of world events.

  • Pablo

    ImJustThatDamnGood said:
    The Muslim Brotherhood is too conservative for Egypt.

    And Hizbullah was too conservative for Lebanon. Now they’re running it.

    Do you fools ever pay any attention whatsoever to the past? Wake up. If the door is left open for them, the MB will be coming in.

  • BatBoy

    Pablo said:
    Do you fools ever pay any attention whatsoever to the past? Wake up. If the door is left open for them, the MB will be coming in.

    The left is getting to HATE the right so much, that “FACTS” are replaced with putdowns and slams. Hey, that is the way they role.

    I see a Sarah Palin event was cancelled due to threats. – Nice going folks and you tried so hard to convince everyone the TEA PARTY was Racist Gun Slingers.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Will the pundits and spokespersons who implied a causal relation between the Arizona shooting and right-wing rhetoric, now unleash that same conclusion about left-wing rhetoric responsible for Sarah Palin having to cancel an appearance because of death threats (over Arizona!) made against her?

  • A man without a Country

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    There’d be no protestors in Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan or Lebanon, without The Bush Doctrine, and first bringing democracy to Iraq.
    Don’t you remember, this is EXACTLY what Bush said would happen!!!

    Obama cleans up what mess? The 3-Trillion more in debt for doled to his supporters through do-nothing budgets, stimulus & over-regulation;
    …or the DRONES, with his name on them for 2 years, maiming & killing innocent Afghans?

    You remember the Drones? Democrats ripped Bush apart for there use, but now when it’s Obama, sshhhhh, you can hear the SILENCE!

    That STENCH your smelling is more Liberal HYPOCRISY!!

    Internet stupidity for the win!

  • uptownruler

    many people that post on these threads prove this very point.

    “The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.”

    Winston Churchill

  • Pablo

    Salim Mansour:

    I am more convinced now, as I wasn’t when Paul Kennedy wrote about the rise and fall of great powers, that the West has gone over the tipping point in its terminal decline. That intelligent people, or people who claim to be intelligent, (I have in mind the talking heads in the U.S. media such as Chris Matthews or Fareed Zakaria) cannot make the difference between the sham of the Muslim Brotherhood talking about freedom and democracy and the generic thirst in man to be free. These are the people who have like the Bourbons learned nothing and forgotten nothing. They are glibly about to put the Lenins of our time into trains heading for Moscows of our time, they find nothing odd that they are pushing for the Muslim Brotherhood to be taken into governing when everything needs to be done to keep the Muslim Brotherhood out even as one carefully negotiate the long historic transition of Arab societies from tribal autorcracy and military dictatorships to representative rule and constitutionally limited government. I read you when I can, and I wish that you and others like you were closer to the main media control in the West, or in government.

  • Calvin
  • Jerps

    Instead of just refudiating Kristol on his show, it’d be nice to see Beck show up on another show with Kristol and actually debate this stuff.

  • Grammie

    uptownruler said:
    “The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.”

    Winston Churchill

    .
    “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried.

    In a speech in the House of Commons on 11 November 1947, Winston Churchill said:

    No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.”

  • Grammie

    Calvin said:
    “Bill Kristol’s odd omission”

    http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/02/05/bill-kristols-odd-omission/

    .
    Very good read.

    .
    “More: Note to Rich Lowry. Whatever one thinks of Beck, he’s not inventing connections between the American left and the “caliphate promoters.” Hamas, an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood according to those noted Birchers the Council on Foreign Relations, is among the caliphate promoters, and Code Pink has long been in league with them. What impact that alliance has is certainly debatable, and I doubt that Code Pink is any more effective in Egypt than it has been in the US, but the alliance itself is not an invention of Beck’s.”

  • grafxmail7

    Pablo said:
    Read the f*cking thread, moron. God, you’re stupid. World class stupid.

    You believe in and defend Chicken Little Beck. Who’s stupid???

  • grafxmail7

    Pablo said:
    No, I just up and smacked you in the mouth with the facts.

    You have to watch out for that David Kristol, don’t you? You are such an idiot, it’s really hard not to laugh.

    That’s why I come here. To laugh at you Chicken Little Beck defenders. You never disappoint!

    Clowns running around defending you Dear Leader. Sometimes even with this ‘tough’ talk. It’s truly entertaining!

  • jim bronson 990cc

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    There’d be no protestors in Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan or Lebanon, without The Bush Doctrine, and first bringing democracy to Iraq.Don’t you remember, this is EXACTLY what Bush said would happen!!! Obama cleans up what mess? The 3-Trillion more in debt for doled to his supporters through do-nothing budgets, stimulus & over-regulation;…or the DRONES, with his name on them for 2 years, maiming & killing innocent Afghans? You remember the Drones? Democrats ripped Bush apart for there use, but now when it’s Obama, sshhhhh, you can hear the SILENCE! That STENCH your smelling is more Liberal HYPOCRISY!!

    I know what he said. I also know what he did:
    http://media.photobucket.com/image/bush%20abdullah%20kiss/Engineer68/George_W_Bush_Prince_Abdullah_kiss_.jpg

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Every once in a while Kristol shoots off his mouth without thinking. The Birch Society had NO proof of their claims. They used statements and books written by crackpots. Beck uses statements, articles and books by people in the news today. REAL people that have influence with the Obama administration.
    Kristol should believe the words of our enemies.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Bill Kristol said, “But hysteria is not a sign of health. When Glenn Beck rants about the caliphate taking over the Middle East from Morocco to the Philippines, and lists (invents?) the connections between caliphate-promoters and the American left, he brings to mind no one so much as Robert Welch and the John Birch Society. He’s marginalizing himself, just as his predecessors did back in the early 1960s.”

    I e-mailed George Will a couple of weeks ago to ask him to address the “craziness,” the completely irresponsible, yellow propaganda that is the Glenn Beck Show on Fox, and we’ve heard … crickets. chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp….

    It’s about time a famous, serious, adult conservative spoke out against the sheer lunacy that was Glenn Beck last week. I wonder how long it will be before Beck counter attacks and Kristol receives death threats from Beck’s extremist, love-struck minions. What Kristol didn’t quite get right is the adjective: Beck’s hysteria is NOT conservative. Beck’s hysteria is profoundly reactionary. Beck is far to the right of Ronald Reagan and Eisenhower.

    Beck saying utterly stupid things about the Middle East is nothing new; he’s been doing that since 9-11. It is about time that an adult spoke up about the lunacy that is Beck’s uninformed fear-mongering about what’s happening in Egypt. On Fox, craziness has a home because Fox is not a news outlet. Beck’s continued presence there is solid evidence that Fox is about propaganda, not news. Fox is becoming the station of Beck. The few, decent respectable reporters there ought to join with Kirstol and demand Beck’s resignation to protect their professional reputations.

  • George C

    GlennBeckReview said:
    I e-mailed George Will a couple of weeks ago to ask him to address the “craziness,” the completely irresponsible, yellow propaganda that is the Glenn Beck Show on Fox, and we’ve heard … crickets. chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp….

    He didn’t respond ? I can’t imagine why .

  • CAconservative

    So, if you can’t make an intelligent, fact based opposing argument, you call your opponent hysterical? I’ve heard comment by Bill Krystle for years. Rarely do they make sense. Facts, and common-sense seem to elude him.

  • grafxmail7

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Every once in a while Kristol shoots off his mouth without thinking. The Birch Society had NO proof of their claims. They used statements and books written by crackpots. Beck uses statements, articles and books by people in the news today. REAL people that have influence with the Obama administration.
    Kristol should believe the words of our enemies.

    When Kristol derides your Dear Leader he’s not thinking? HAHA!

    To defend Chicken Little Beck disqualifies all intelligent thought. Resistance is futile. HAHA!

    The circus performers are now turning on each other and the comedy that it is just keeps getting more funny by the day!

  • WillP

    The conservative movement will be much better off when talk radio and television hosts are not taken so seriously. It is deeply unfortunate that many people see figures like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh as the faces of conservatism. A generation ago Ronald Reagan and Bill Buckley were the most important figures. It really cheapens the movement for the broader American public to have media figures play such a prominent role in the debate. I’m not optimistic things will change, but I would like to believe in the future that Fox News and talk radio will play a less important role than elected officials and serious thinkers which is sadly not what we have right now.

  • Pablo

    grafxmail7 said:
    When Kristol derides your Dear Leader he’s not thinking? HAHA!

    To defend Chicken Little Beck disqualifies all intelligent thought. Resistance is futile. HAHA!

    The circus performers are now turning on each other and the comedy that it is just keeps getting more funny by the day!

    Coming from someone who thinks there are news programs on Comedy Central, this is hilarious.

  • grafxmail7

    Pablo said:
    Coming from someone who thinks there are news programs on Comedy Central, this is hilarious.

    HAHA! You can’t even get your comebacks right!
    I actually said the FOX ‘news’ has to defend itself against The Comedy Channel.
    You then jumped up and down and performed for me (thanks for that!) like the clown you are and corrected me that it’s “Comedy Central” all excited that you ‘got’ me. Missing the point that FOX “news” and the likes of you have to defend yourselves (and you do it often) against a Comedy Channel HAHA! Funny fools!

    Now you’re here as usual defending Chicken Little Beck.

    You’re too easy! Fun!

  • Garth

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Every once in a while Kristol shoots off his mouth without thinking. The Birch Society had NO proof of their claims. They used statements and books written by crackpots. Beck uses statements, articles and books by people in the news today. REAL people that have influence with the Obama administration.
    Kristol should believe the words of our enemies.

    You consistently shoot your mouth off without thinking. Lunatic.

  • Mr B

    Fascinating. The journolist media is running hard with this article by Kristol. Isn’t Kristol on team R? The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=william+kristol+glenn+beck&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

    Although, I see an accusation by Kristol against Beck without any support. Poor Bill. Something tells me he’s going to get a spanking tomorrow.

    “Reasonable minds can and do disagree on what the US ought or ought not to do concerning the unrest in Egypt. It

  • Mr B

    What the heck. It cut off my post.

    “Reasonable minds can and do disagree on what the US ought or ought not to do concerning the unrest in Egypt. It’s not a simple situation at all. And it’s not at all clear that the US can do much about it anyway. But if you’re going to write an analysis that chides people for not holding to your point of view, you should at least do them the respect of addressing the source of their actual concerns instead of setting up platoons of straw men.”

    http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/02/05/bill-kristols-odd-omission/

  • Annie Oakley

    From that “noted Conservative” (sarc, in case you missed it) Mort Zuckerman via Newsbusters transcript of the McLaughlin Group:
    MORT ZUCKERMAN: “But having said that, [Hosni Mubarak] has been a steadfast ally of the United States for 30 years. And the only way – it is absolutely fair and right to think that this is time for him to leave. But if you want him to leave, we did it in exactly the wrong way, which is to do it publicly, which is humiliating for an Arab leader. And of course, therefore when we sent a special envoy whose message, whose mission was leaked, namely that he was going to ask Mubarak to leave, he gave him a very brief meeting and said I don’t want to talk to you again. Because this man has been around as an ally and expects to be treated as an ally for 30 years, and therefore it seems to me we should have found a better way to get to him.”

    “Now, let me just say, I want to say one thing. Let’s just remember this: in Tehran there were hundreds of thousands of people in the street. Iran was our principal enemy in that part of the world and this administration said nothing. But here we take a 30-year ally of the United States and we start publicly attacking him. That was exactly the wrong way to do it in that part of the world. Now the, the Saudis, the Jordanians, most of the other countries are enraged because they feel in a sense he was not badly, he was badly treated and not treated with respect.”

    Fabulous point by Zuckerman that most in the media have been oblivious to.

    If Mubarak’s time has come to depart, our diplomatic play is to privately assist him in doing so as peacefully as possible in order for our long-term ally to save face and to demonstrate to other leaders we support that we would do the same for them in a similar situation.

    By so quickly backing the protestors, Obama has not only snubbed someone that has been very important to America for three decades, but also likely damaged our relations with other leaders in the region.

    In addition, as Zuckerman accurately stated, this is quite a contrast from Obama totally ignoring Iranian protests in 2009 against a man that is our mortal enemy. This inconsistent strategy regarding the Middle East has to be confusing and concerning to all those watching.

    Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/02/06/eleanor-clift-schooled-egypt-entire-mclaughlin-group-panel#ixzz1DDt9uVOg

  • gottosay

    WOW…now Kristol is looking out the security of Israel not the security of America….so when he kicks in the opinions of Beck…understand this Kristol is supporting the security of America. If, Kristol felt Beck was a fool he Kristol would have denounced Beck years ago

    I am shocked that Kristol came out against a fellow worker maybe there is something under that steel armor worth giving a listen to…

    “…Conservatives, he concludes, should adopt the principles of the American Revolution to the situation in Egypt, and appreciate that such violent revolts are sometimes necessary…” However , I disagree with Kristol violence does not bring just more pain. I love the idea of peaceful resistence that of which I saw doing the 60′s american civil rights run…we shamed a nation by presenting ourselves better than the government our founding fathers started.

    Kristol interests are not totally american just Israels’ and that makes him Kristol a limited american… and Beck an foolish man with evil intent…

  • Annie Oakley

    “Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”

    CROWLEY: …how they handled the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations which they did in public and it blew up in their faces. Diplomacy 101 is especially when you’re dealing with a stalwart ally like Hosni Mubarak is you take this behind closed doors. You don’t have the American president give a big declaration. Look, the other point he raised, Moussa, Moussa is now the choice as of this moment of the Muslim Brotherhood.

    ZUCKERMAN: Right.

    CROWLEY: The Muslim Brotherhood now is working this crisis so that they can ride the tide to seize power, and I’m telling you if they grab power in Egypt, they…

    MCLAUGHLIN: Hold on.

    CROWLEY: …they will consign 82 million Egyptians to the perpetual darkness of the Islamist rule. And don’t make any mistake about it, let’s not be naïve about this.

    MCLAUGHLIN: You remember when the Muslim Brotherhood were the really bad guys over there?

    CROWLEY: They are the bad guys.

    BUCHANAN AND ZUCKERMAN: They are the bad guys

    MCLAUGHLIN: They are the bad guys today?

    CROWLEY: Yes.

    MCLAUGHLIN: How many Muslim Brotherhood are there?

    ZUCKERMAN: They’re probably a third of the population.

    BUCHANAN: Hamas is part of the Muslim Brotherhood.

    CROWLEY: It doesn’t matter.

    CLIFT: And they’ve been bad…

    MCLAUGHLIN: How do you account for the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood that were the bad guys are now the good guys?

    CROWLEY: They’re not the good guys.

    ZUCKERMAN: I didn’t say they were the good guys. Let me just tell you, Hosni Mubarak …

    MCLAUGHLIN: Do they control the strings of power. Do they control the strings of power?

    BUCHANAN: No.

    ZUCKERMAN: No, they do not yet. The army controls the strings of power. No, this whole issue is going to turn on what the army does. But let me just point out one thing, and Mubarak knows it, okay, because he happened to be sitting next to Anwar Sadat when the Muslim Brotherhood assassinated Anwar Sadat, one of the great figures out of that country. It was the Muslim Brotherhood who assassinated him.

    Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/02/06/eleanor-clift-schooled-egypt-entire-mclaughlin-group-panel#ixzz1DDw4EysI

  • Grammie

    Annie Oakley said:
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    “Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”

    Very good comments and links.

    Thanks.

  • Annie Oakley

    If you did not read the linked article on American Thinker, “Obama Well Knows the Chaos He’s Unleashed,” take the time to educate yourself on some history of the region

    “Anwar Sadat was subsequently assassinated by members of the Muslim Brotherhood. His successor was Hosni Mubarak, who, for the last thirty years, has kept control over the seething Egyptian masses and the volatile Arab street.”

    “Now his thirty-year rule has been fatally undermined by U.S. President, Barack Hussein Obama, in a betrayal that is as astonishing as it is deplorable.”

    “It is clear to any child that a new Egyptian regime will, if not immediately, be hijacked by the Muslim Brotherhood, which is now calling for Egypt to prepare itself again for war with Israel and for the blockading of the Suez Canal to American, Western, and Israeli shipping. Obama is no fool; he engineered this.”

    “So, thanks to President Obama, we are back to square one with an Islamic Egyptian regime poised to send Egypt’s massively armed army back into Sinai and towards the Israeli border with the aim of exterminating the Jewish state. So much for “land for peace.”

    “But what economic turmoil would a new Egyptian Islamic closure of the Canal mean to the West?”

    Bill Kristol SHOULD know better than the superficial comments he made.

  • BOMBSHELL

    GlennBeckReview said:
    I e-mailed George Will a couple of weeks ago to ask him to address the “craziness,” the completely irresponsible, yellow propaganda that is the Glenn Beck Show on Fox, and we’ve heard … crickets. chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp, chirp chirp

    My daddy’s got that “chirp” thing DOWN, don’t you think?

  • Paleoconservatarian

    WillP said:
    The conservative movement will be much better off when talk radio and television hosts are not taken so seriously. It is deeply unfortunate that many people see figures like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh as the faces of conservatism. A generation ago Ronald Reagan and Bill Buckley were the most important figures. It really cheapens the movement for the broader American public to have media figures play such a prominent role in the debate. I’m not optimistic things will change, but I would like to believe in the future that Fox News and talk radio will play a less important role than elected officials and serious thinkers which is sadly not what we have right now.

    Buckley wrote articles for his own magazine and Reagan was a nationally syndicated radio personality immediately before becoming president, genius.

  • Yoda002

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Every once in a while Kristol shoots off his mouth without thinking. The Birch Society had NO proof of their claims. They used statements and books written by crackpots. Beck uses statements, articles and books by people in the news today. REAL people that have influence with the Obama administration.
    Kristol should believe the words of our enemies.

    It looks like Billy “bloody” Kristol is not to happy with your buddy Beck. He has a lot of influence within the NeoCon power structure. He with Wolfowitz and Bolton where the chief architects of the war.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Westover/1496648721 Tony Westover

    This has absolutely nothing to do with Bill Kristol thinking that Beck is “stirring up hysteria” or whatever and EVERYTHING do to with the fact that Beck’s media company, Mercury Radio Arts, is quickly encroaching on the Weekly Standard’s territory. (And the Weekly Standard never really posed much competition to National Review to begin with.)

    So if you see someone like Mary Katherine Hamm jump ship and join Beck’s company, you’ll know the truth behind this story.

  • X-3

    Annie Oakley said:
    Bill Kristol SHOULD know better than the superficial comments he made.

    No doubt Bill Kristol is a bright man but his elitist attitude (prevalent amongst the northeastern Republicans) is and has been his undoing. I would imagine that Kristol is like most Glenn Beck critics–he has never seen his program.

  • X-3

    BOMBSHELL said:
    My daddy’s got that “chirp” thing DOWN, don’t you think?

    Who the HELL are you?

  • X-3

    George C said:
    He didn’t respond ? I can’t imagine why .

    OK, now I’ve got it. BOMBSHELL is that guy who pisses in GBR’s oatmeal all the time.

  • X-3

    ImJustThatDamnGood said:
    Israel is not in danger, Egypt is a secular country. The Muslim Brotherhood is too conservative for Egypt. I know how you conservatives love to invade countries who are no threat to you or your allies. Maybe you guys can use your WMDs excuse again. One problem, Obama will not go to war, he only cleans up the mess others left behind.

    Israel is not in danger? You MUST be delusional! Almost every Muslim on Earth would like to see Israel vaporize, and if Ahmadinejad has his way, that’s precisely what will happen. Your ignorance is only trumped by the fact that you believe what you say.

  • X-3

    George C said:
    If you really like jazz might I suggest , http://www.armwood.com/ You might have more in common than you think .

    What ever happened to ol’ Armwood???

  • Joe4more

    Israel is only in as much danger as the delicate balance of “agreements” will allow. This balance is orchestrated by a well tuned relationship between our military and Egypt’s. We have been paying for Israel’s protection for many years, and by the looks of things, Israel has been doing just fine.
    The question is will Israel use this event to better the relationship they have with Palestine?

  • Alz

    Joe4more said:
    Israel is only in as much danger as the delicate balance of “agreements” will allow. This balance is orchestrated by a well tuned relationship between our military and Egypt’s. We have been paying for Israel’s protection for many years, and by the looks of things, Israel has been doing just fine.
    The question is will Israel use this event to better the relationship they have with Palestine?

    Will the Palestinians work to make peace with israel? How about many Arabs giving up on the DESTRUCTION of Isarel?

    Israel has for the moist part bent over backwards to make peace. All they want to to is live.

    These two cases are not morally equivalent:

    1) “A” wants to destroy “B”. “A” broadcasts it’s intentions, develops, buys and uses weapons against “B” (including specific targeting of civilians) and “A” squanders billions in aid that could be used to help it’s people gain wealth and success.

    2) “B” wants to survive and works to stop “A” with great restraint.

  • skyfet

    I’ve said it once, I’ve said it twice Beck is an embarrassment, and those who enabled him need to check themselves.

  • Annie Oakley

    Consider this, in 1981, the man who is now demanding the resignation of Hosni Mubarak was a self-admitted dope smoking student at Occidental college, who, according to his autobiography, was allying himself with every Marxist, Leftist campus organization. While he was “finding himself,” Mubarak was serving as Vice-President of Egypt and getting shot by a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood as its members assassinated President Anwar Sadat because of his support of the peace treaty with Israel.

    On its face, Obama’s public statement regarding Mubarak is arrogant, insulting and naive in the extreme. Obama is the embarrassment.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Todd-Schacherl/1619186857 Todd Schacherl

    X-3 said:
    Israel is not in danger? You MUST be delusional! Almost every Muslim on Earth would like to see Israel vaporize, and if Ahmadinejad has his way, that’s precisely what will happen. Your ignorance is only trumped by the fact that you believe what you say.

    Almost every Muslim on Earth? Really? Don’t suppose you have any recent polls, surveys, or studies to back up such an all encompassing claim.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    CAconservative says:
    “So, if you can’t make an intelligent, fact based opposing argument, you call your opponent hysterical? I’ve heard comment by Bill Krystle for years. Rarely do they make sense.”

    In what universe does Glenn Beck make sense? Dud, you need to change your comment name to CAreactionary because only in Beck’s fantasy universe of made-up facts does Beck make sense.

    For an explanation of how gullible people come to believe the utter nonsense that Beck spews, click on this hot link.

  • 78Thomas

    Finally, sensible people on the left, middle and right are saying “you don’t make any sense” to the hysterical noise makers.

    Glenn Beck is the modern day loon standing on a street corner in a sandwich board declaring, “The End Is Near”.

    Its not so much what he says (there have been these types all through out history) its that so many people fall for it.

  • Pablo

    grafxmail7 said:
    Missing the point that FOX “news” and the likes of you have to defend yourselves (and you do it often) against a Comedy Channel HAHA! Funny fools!

    So you think. But again, you also think that Comedy Central has news programs…which one might have to defend against, as opposed to Comedy which is just comedy. With your inverted brilliance and your great pride in your utter ignorance, you prove my point. Thanks for the yuks, genius.

  • timcajun

    78Thomas says:

    Glenn Beck is the modern day loon standing on a street corner in a sandwich board declaring, “The End Is Near”.

    Its not so much what he says (there have been these types all through out history) its that so many people fall for it.

    Correct! For all his conspiracy theory, look at my calkboard that really never connects anything, he’s seldom right! Oh, but he has the bases covered, “if you don’t believe me look it up”……. on my site…. “Blaze” or Breitbart or the tea parties! They’ll tell you I’m right ….or I’ll tell you I’m right….wait,…. anyway I’m right! All other media is liberal! Their out to get you! Just follow me and my cult…….wait my show!

  • Calvin

    Looks like ‘ol Glynnis is still obsessed with Glenn:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/glenn-beck-caliphate-maddow-egypt-2011-2

    Rachel Maddow Needs To Start A Segment Called ‘Fact-Checking Glenn Beck’

    Good grief.

    Why can’t Glynnis do that? She’s just as “capable” as Maddow is.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/oops-rachel-maddow-gets-duped-by-satirical-website-christwire-quickly-owns-up/

    http://www.anonymousfinch.com/2010/03/17/glenn-beck-v-glynnis-macnicol-the-decline-of-mediaite/

  • grafxmail7

    Pablo said:
    So you think. But again, you also think that Comedy Central has news programs…which one might have to defend against, as opposed to Comedy which is just comedy. With your inverted brilliance and your great pride in your utter ignorance, you prove my point. Thanks for the yuks, genius.

    HAHA!
    In true Chicken Little Beck defender style.
    You make things up to come your absurd conclusions.

    Again, this is hilarious. A clown running around blowing your horn “HONK HONK” HAHAH!

  • Alz

    Annie Oakley said:
    Consider this, in 1981, the man who is now demanding the resignation of Hosni Mubarak was a self-admitted dope smoking student at Occidental college, who, according to his autobiography, was allying himself with every Marxist, Leftist campus organization. While he was “finding himself,” Mubarak was serving as Vice-President of Egypt and getting shot by a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood as its members assassinated President Anwar Sadat because of his support of the peace treaty with Israel.

    On its face, Obama’s public statement regarding Mubarak is arrogant, insulting and naive in the extreme. Obama is the embarrassment.

    Obama really is the sum of all fears. He’s terrible. The elections in 2012 can’t come fast enough.

  • mrpop

    I find it amazing that we have all the Washington talking heads saying that anyone that tell the public “Dont believe me check it out for yourself” is a lunatic. Isn’t it pathetic that Glenn Beck says that We should never support a despot or dictator that kills and tortures their own people and he is attacked as crazy. I have found Glenn Beck to be one of the few people that is tryiing to get people to seach for the truth. We all can watch vidieos of Code Pink and other leftist groups ranting racist and disgusting things and yet no one and I mean no one on the left will condeme them HOW TELLING!!!!

  • Dsiscokid

    mrpop said:
    I find it amazing that we have all the Washington talking heads saying that anyone that tell the public “Dont believe me check it out for yourself” is a lunatic. Isn’t it pathetic that Glenn Beck says that We should never support a despot or dictator that kills and tortures their own people and he is attacked as crazy. I have found Glenn Beck to be one of the few people that is tryiing to get people to seach for the truth. We all can watch vidieos of Code Pink and other leftist groups ranting racist and disgusting things and yet no one and I mean no one on the left will condeme them HOW TELLING!!!!

    Agreed. Kristol and the NeoCons only give lip service to conservative views all the while pushing for more American empi….”hedgmony”. They know best. They live in DC. They go to the cocktail parties. The only time they give a rip about “conservative values” is when they need a vote. They are a bigger problem to conservatives than any hard left group, IMHO. At least I know where the hard left stands. The Hamiltonian wing of America was wrong 200 years ago, and their modern day brethren are wrong now. Thoughts?

  • Dsiscokid

    Scott_in_MI said:
    This story proves that there is disagreement at Fox, unlike that far-leftwing loon station

    Agreed

  • X-3

    Todd Schacherl said:
    Almost every Muslim on Earth? Really? Don’t suppose you have any recent polls, surveys, or studies to back up such an all encompassing claim.

    Hal tatakallamu alloghah alarabiah?

    In Arabic, I am known as “Haql al Fasioli”

  • Dsiscokid

    Annie Oakley said:
    First, if you believe that Bill Kristol is always right, then you must believe that Sarah Palin is an outstanding candidate for political office. Kristol was the first person on television who mentioned her name as a possible McCain running mate. He had met her on a trip (cruise, I think) to Alaska and was extremely complimentary of her abilities and conservative credentials. Secondly, I have never previously noticed Kristol speaking out against repressive regimes which are allies of the United States. Perhaps he has done so and I have missed it. Beck is speaking out about the U.S. backing regimes that are repressive and corrupt. He seems to believe that if you lie down with dogs, don’t be surprised if you wake up with fleas. With the only figurehead of the current demonstrations being Al Baradei, the man who helped enable Iran’s lack of transparency regarding oversight of their nuclear program, one cannot help being suspicious of the ultimate outcome of the chaos in Egypt. If there is a vacuum in leadership, can Kristol or anyone else guarantee that “DEMOCRACY” will ensue? I think not. It took months before the Ayatollah Kohmeni returned to Iran to enforce the theocracy- a regime even more oppressive than the Shah. Even Henry Kissinger has spoken out and suggested that this administration needs to SHUT UP, since its public statements are doing nothing more than inflaming the situation and showing our incompetence. “Not every conspiracy is a theory.” Look at the destabilization that is happening around the world and see how often radical Islam is part of the mix. As I recall, the largest number of conversions to Islam in the U.S. is among the prison population. Also, wasn’t it Elena Kagan who would not give a straight answer to whether or not Sharia Law could be considered in U.S. courtrooms? I find that disturbing in an officer of the court. Just saying…

    Good post

  • Dsiscokid

    Jerps said:
    Instead of just refudiating Kristol on his show, it’d be nice to see Beck show up on another show with Kristol and actually debate this stuff.

    Good post

  • Dsiscokid

    WillP said:
    I would like to believe in the future that Fox News and talk radio will play a less important role than elected officials and serious thinkers which is sadly not what we have right now.

    Well thankfully we have NPR and Democracy Now! to correct the “vast Right wing conspiracy”…….

  • timcajun

    mrpop says:

    I find it amazing that we have all the Washington talking heads saying that anyone that tell the public “Dont believe me check it out for yourself” is a lunatic. Isn’t it pathetic that Glenn Beck says that We should never support a despot or dictator that kills and tortures their own people and he is attacked as crazy. I have found Glenn Beck to be one of the few people that is tryiing to get people to seach for the truth. We all can watch vidieos of Code Pink and other leftist groups ranting racist and disgusting things and yet no one and I mean no one on the left will condeme them HOW TELLING!!!!

    Once again spin,spin spin! When the con Beck says “check it out yourself” He knows… a.) most won’t check, b.) almost every “check” that any tea posts on this site to defend Beck’s rants is a “Breitbart, Beck, Blaze, tea site!” I wonder if his own site defends him? You think so? c.) when he is caught in a lie, (by a clip) he spins it or acts like it never happened! Then the crazy part is the teas still defend “him” and act like it’s ok! Damage done to the liberals. A lie that worked! People in cults react the same way towards their leaders! Another spin lie is that, NO liberal ever said we should support a killing dictator! So “Beck” is a god just for saying what everyone is saying? This crap of “Beck” is searching for the truth! (which is a lie) His truth! You want a liberal to comdemn these ‘cut and paste” clips, if it is illegal it’s condemned! We don’t need your cult leader to tell us to do that! Long live blind, long live the sheep!

  • Annie Oakley

    I just now saw Kristol on “Morning Joe” and I am struck by his good nature. While Scarborough and Mika want him to “slam” Glenn Beck, he simply disagrees with him. Moreover, his primary point is that the United States should always support a movement for democracy, a theorhetical issue. If Kristol were to watch Beck or read transcripts of his show, he would see that Beck does not disagree. Kristol still believes that Palin has a political future and if not now, perhaps in eight or more years, as she’s a young woman.

    Watching Mika’s face as Kristol speaks is an enlightening experience- her disdain for the man is palpable.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Kristol, Rick Lowry and John Fund are conservatives speaking out against Beck. Frum has spoken out.

    Something else that Beck has been factually wrong about: WE surround THEM (the reactionaries), not the other way around.

  • Annie Oakley

    GlennBeckReview said:
    Kristol, Rick Lowry and John Fund are conservatives speaking out against Beck. Frum has spoken out.

    Something else that Beck has been factually wrong about: WE surround THEM (the reactionaries), not the other way around.

    I don’t listen to David Frum about anything regarding conservatives anyway. He’s as “conservative” as Scarborough.

    Kristol is an erudite man whose personality and experience are all based in the bubble of the Washington elite. I love to listen to him and I appreciate his advocacy of Sarah Palin, intially and in the present. RICH (not Rick) Lowry is Kristol’s intellectual equal and always has an interesting perspective- one with which I usually agree.

    Both Kristol and Lowry are primarily arguing “style.” Beck is not an intellectual, nor a member of the “elite”- anywhere. He is a common man who is self-educated, thus he is not hampered by “conventional” norms of political commentary.

    If Beck is “crazy,” then so are K.T. McFarland, John Bolton, Donald Rumsfeld, and Henry Kissinger- all are concerned about the destabilization of the Middle East and the possibility that elements of Islamic Fundamentalism will fill the void and establish theocracies in the region. No one can predict for a certainty what will happen with Egypt, but most are predicting that destabilization will NOT benefit the U.S. or Israel. You can call it a “caliphate” or you can call it a “sphere of influence” (as we did regarding the Soviet Union after WWII), but the effect is the same.

    Get back to me in two years and tell me who was right, Beck or Obama. I’d put my money on Beck.

  • Grammie

    Annie Oakley said:
    If Beck is “crazy,” then so are K.T. McFarland, John Bolton, Donald Rumsfeld, and Henry Kissinger- all are concerned about the destabilization of the Middle East and the possibility that elements of Islamic Fundamentalism will fill the void and establish theocracies in the region. No one can predict for a certainty what will happen with Egypt, but most are predicting that destabilization will NOT benefit the U.S. or Israel. You can call it a “caliphate” or you can call it a “sphere of influence” (as we did regarding the Soviet Union after WWII), but the effect is the same.

    .
    I’ve really been enjoying your comments, Annie.

    As for all the horror at the thought of the left wing in American politics for now aligning themselves with Islamic Fundamentalists we just have to go back to Iran to know it is possible. It was the left who agitated against our strong ally the Shah and the left in the guise of Jimmy Carter who withdrew our support with the inevitable result of the current Iranian Theocracy supporting terrorism throughout the world.

  • Annie Oakley

    Grammie said:
    .
    I’ve really been enjoying your comments, Annie.

    As for all the horror at the thought of the left wing in American politics for now aligning themselves with Islamic Fundamentalists we just have to go back to Iran to know it is possible. It was the left who agitated against our strong ally the Shah and the left in the guise of Jimmy Carter who withdrew our support with the inevitable result of the current Iranian Theocracy supporting terrorism throughout the world.

    Thanks, Grammie. You and I seem to be of a similar age and have long enough memories to have seen this movie before- and it didn’t end well!

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Annie Oakley says:
    “Kristol is an erudite man whose personality and experience are all based in the bubble of the Washington elite. I love to listen to him and I appreciate his advocacy of Sarah Palin, intially and in the present. RICH (not Rick) Lowry is Kristol’s intellectual equal and always has an interesting perspective- one with which I usually agree.

    Both Kristol and Lowry are primarily arguing “style.” Beck is not an intellectual, nor a member of the “elite”- anywhere. He is a common man who is self-educated, thus he is not hampered by “conventional” norms of political commentary.

    If Beck is “crazy,”….”

    Beck isn’t crazy. He’s doing an amazing job getting millions of people to believe in his idiotic ideas. Beck is ignorant, not self-educated, about world politics. Don’t take it from me: it’s clear to those who do have an expertise in Egypt and world politics. See: http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2011/02/03/jk.dunne.kagan.cnn

    What I find interesting is how someone who is so easy to fact check and prove to be not just factually in error, but very intentionally lying about some things, how someone who expresses clear and unambiguous examples of sheer hypocrisy, how a complete fraud like Beck can attain a following of millions. It’s impressive; it’s sheer manipulation.
    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/02/why-glenn-beck-isnt-crazy-and-millions.html

    Beck is an entertainment genius and a master at manipulating the needs and beliefs of the gullible and uninformed.

  • LilaH

    When you have neo-Con Bill trashing you, you know you’re a crackpot……

    Mr. Beck has branded post 9/11 fear and marketed it to selfish, lazy, and gullible Americans that tend to flip channels rather than pages….

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Annie Oakley says:
    “If Beck is “crazy,”…”

    I never claimed that Beck is crazy. Just the opposite. He uses “crazy” to get ratings and viewers. It’s a trick he’s been using for years. It’s so weird: when my wife listens to Beck, she gets “an overwhelming feeling of evil” too. I asked her why, and she said that she could tell that he is a liar by HOW he speaks.

    I’m more empirical and philosophically trained. Beck lies and we prove this day after day. I have a long list of posts detailing Beck’s false claims, and I don’t post nearly all the ones I know about. I have a large unused file detailing many of Beck’s lies.

    Beck is on the wrong side of history again, but — not surprising — he was on the side of democracy in the Middle East in support of Bush’s war of choice against Iraq. He hasn’t changed his mind: Glenn Beck is a hypocrite through and through. I prove this with facts and logic over and over again. And this begs the question: why does Beck has such a large following?

    Yes, he’s persuasive and cunning and gifted. He’s also highly skilled at manipulating his viewers; Beck is a master manipulator. Why else would more of his followers not hear the lies I could detect before starting The Glenn Beck Review. He programs his viewers to dismiss any and all criticism of him, no matter how factual and unbiased, no matter how honest. This has led me to a recent re-evaluation of his intellect as of late. He’s still ignorant about the world, but he’s very bright, clever, gifted, persuasive and intelligent. It’s taken a while to see that, but the link about his manipulation skills forced me into rethinking just how smart he is.

    It’s still all about Glenn Beck. His motivations, according to Beck’s biographer, Alex Zaitchik, “are, and have always been, money and fame. If Beck has a true religion, it’s not Patriotism. It’s not Mormonism. It’s cross-platform self-marketing.” Those who do not grasp this about him, can not hear his lies or hypocrisies, do not recognize that this uneducated, ignorant man is a charlatan and yellow propagandist, are victims more than they are supporters. They are to be pitied, not respected.

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