MSNBC Is Very Disappointed With Senator Joe Lieberman
Health care reform is a subject that often elicits blank stares and yawns from an audience. It not only lacks a clear and simple narrative; it’s hard to follow the characters involved. Recent debate over health care has forced the topic back on the cable news rundowns, and at least one cable network has found their villain. His name? Joe Lieberman (sturm and drang)! Turns out, he plays the part pretty well.
With a rumored vote on Health reform looming before the end of the year, the stakes are rising — not just with regard to the medical and insurance implications, but the political implications as well. And seeing as the Democrat-turned-Independent Lieberman is already viewed as a backstabbing Brutus by those on the left, a vocal Lieberman in opposition health care reform did not please the talent at MSNBC.
But what has Senator Lieberman done to raise the ire in for those on the left? He recently threatened to filibuster any health care reform that includes Medicare for anyone under the age of 65. Why is this so offensive? Allow Keith Olbermann to explain”
“Not only was he contradicting his initial reaction to the idea last week, not only was he contradicting his own proposal supporting medicare buy-ins when he ran for vice president nine years ago, but today it turned out he was also contradicting an on-camera interview in which he still spoke approvingly of the very Medicare buy-ins over which he now threatens to filibuster to destroy health care reform. An on-camera interview conducted just three months ago.”
Olbermann then aired the clip of Lieberman contradicting his current position from just three months ago.
Rachel Maddow delivered the second part of the one-two punch last night, and was surgical in her use of quality research. She focused on some rather large inconsistencies in both Lieberman’s rhetoric and policy.
First she aired a clip from a November 8 appearance in which Lieberman told Fox News Sunday Host Chris Wallace:
“If the public option plan is in there, as a matter of conscience, I will not allow this bill to come to a final vote. I would vote to stop final vote on this health care reform bill. I would use the power i have as a single senator to stop a final vote.”
Thanks to the producers who work with Maddow, last night we learned that back in 1995, Lieberman introduced an anti-filibuster measure with then-fellow Democratic Senator Tom Harkin. In fact, he was quoted as saying:
“The filibuster, as wrong as it is, and as unfortunate as its consequences have been because it’s created gridlock, it has increased the power of every individual senator. And senators are not that good at yielding individual power.”
Both segments go to great length to explain Lieberman’s erratic comments on health care, and both Olbermann and Maddow both did well in logically breaking down the, well, illogical positions of the senator from Connecticut.
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LierberWoman’s sole motivation is to get back at the Liberals who attempted to remove him from office. At this point I would rather see the bill not pass than to compromise any further.
I’m sorry.. is it angry in here?
OK – I generally don’t comment in this space about politics, but…
What’s somewhat remarkable is that it took a producer (and Google) to “discover” events from just a few years ago and the naivete with which Maddow asks her guest, if the filibuster might go away.
WHY??..?? Doesn’t he take his PROFITS and RUN, as many of his “friends” are doing?
I love Joe Lieberman.
I think it is amazing that the Democrats are now scratching their heads because they guy they totally ass-raped during the 2006 elections is giving it back to them old school. Politics is like the mafia. If you’re going to kill a guy, then by God, you’d better kill him. When you attempt to end a man’s career, and fail, what are the odds that man will use the rest of his career to remind you of your incompetence?
Let’s name the health care legislation after Ned Lamont and then watch crash in flames.
Remember Joe Lieberman every time Democrats claim that the Republicans are not a big-tent party.
Rock on Joe!
This is BS! All you guys do on this site is attack MSNBC! What crap. How about looking at Fox News and the lies they spew. I guess it’s above you, since you’re right-wing hacks!
“Talent” Colby? Did Glenn Beck tell you to say that?? Is it because you are OWNED by by the conservative media elites!?
(how’s that? I don’t feel like I hit it on the head like my right-wing friends. i probably need some more practice. but since it’s opposite day here, i figured i’d let them see exactly what their daily arguments look like. fun!)
oh, Straitshooter, i think i should inform you that Lieberman isn’t a republican, he’s a self-serving democrat who lives in the insurance capital of the world. he’s looking to line his pockets at the expense of his constitu…. wait a minute!!!! you’re right! he IS a republican!!!
TJL,
Lieberman’s voting record indicates he sides with the Democrats 90 percent of the time. Check your facts. He just happens to disagree on two very high-profile issues (health care and the deployment of our military).
And this story really has nothing to do with Fox or MSNBC. It’s just about Lieberman, and if he were willing to switch parties, I guarantee you the GOP would welcome him, even though he would remain staunchly pro-choice and pro-union.
And don’t be so naive. Every career politican lines his pockets with donations from evil companies, evil unions, evil lawyers, evil everything. The evil people are the ones with the money.
I think everyone has forgetten one thing Lieberman represents the people of his state That’s it no DNC. No RNC. Just the people of his state. That’s what the ‘I’ is all about.
The majority of the Joe’s constituents want a public option, as do the majority of Americans.
The irony is “moderates” or “fiscal conservatives” are driving up the cost of reform through their fealty to corporate insurance giants. Of course our vaunted “liberal media” never calls them out on their cost increasing ideas, someone might acuse them of being liberal, after all.
It’s easy to say “the majority want a public option” without defining to the people:
a. the specifics of the public option.
b. how it will affect the health care they have now.
c. how much it will cost, and whether the cost will require additional taxes.
The majority of the public does NOT want the health care legislation being debated in the Senate right now. Obama deserves great credit for shifting the debate to the point where stubborn Republicans have been forced to admit reform is necessary. Obama deserves blame for allowing Pelosi and Reid to hijack this issue, overplay their hand and utterly exclude Republican ideas from the process.
Now we have two options. Start over with an open mind, or let the Democrats pass something even they think sucks, but which will cost a fortune regardless.
Jim R says:
Then why does most of the pools say they don’t? I”m sorry but jsut because ED Schultz
says it doesn’t make it true.
Anything that makes Olbermann enraged, I’m very much in favor of. Good job, Joe.
Joe Lieberman is probably the biggest fraud and traitor you can get in politics today. Makes me sick to my stomach. He’s disappointed everyone who helped him and stabbed everyone in the back that he possibly could. Everyone who helped him with his independent Senate election in 2006 he’s turned his back on. He personally asked for Barack Obama’s support in the election, and Obama did help him. What does he get in return? Jack squat.
I’m sorry, M. Can you please clarify for me who stabbed whom in the back in the 2006 election?
The Democrats deserted Lieberman for a nobody because they didn’t like Lieberman’s support of the surge.
When Lieberman decided to run as an independent, it became clear to even the most casual observer that Republican and independent voters would flock to him and that he would keep his seat. Only after it was obvious he would remain in the senate did some Democrats begrudgingly offer their support.
Everyone knew the rules of the game. Lieberman played better than his opponents, and to the victor go the spoils.
Remember folks… a simple equation:
Joe Lieberman = bad, traitor, fraud.
Arlen Specter = good, principled, honest.
A Democrat becoming an Independent because the party deems him “not left enough,” is unacceptable, and only the worst things should happen to him. A Republican becoming a Democrat (not an Independent, but actually switching political sides) is a good thing, and it shows the “weakness” and the “single-mindedness” of the party.
Sure it’s hypocrisy… but who cares?!
Oh, that’s right. I do.
(But “who cares” that (you) “do,” Little One???). Ahh, Joe Liberman. Our resident runt. Look carefully and you’ll see a rat-tail attached to him. Souldn’t he be holding McShame’s hand, while the 2 of them once more travel through another “safe shopping trip” in downtown Baghdad – even as they view the vast “successes” of/in Iraq?? What’s a few explosions per day to such heroic freedom-fighters?? Guess there’s more “safety” on the Senate floor, as they continue on the path to National destruction. They are happily in the forefront of the Republiscum caravan of hatred & intolerance that currently (As always) sweeps across the land. Merchants of bitterness and bigotry with no intellectual or moral center. Some things just never change.
Wiederbetaetigung!!!
Nachi says:
December 15, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Some things just never change.
With every insane, unfocused, nonsensical rant from you… that last statement is proven. Ah well… at least you’re not getting worse.
This form of “advocacy journalism”…wherein Tv personalities are the handmaidens of the Federal Government is smarmy…and across “The Line”, as a business strategy.
FOX’s patented formula is safe, and will have more longevity, than this “State Runned Media” shilling.
WHO is Olber-Furher going to be shilling for, when the Democrats-Progressives get voted out ?
This has a shelf-life…AND ALREADY IT’S STALE !
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